Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Wayne Roberts;1108506]In saying that, there is a lot to read here, so a summarized thread may not be a bad idea. There are pages and pages of material to work through and it can be quite time consuming for people I guess[/QUOTE]Your suggestion is so good, that it has been put in practice already. I wish everyone would read the following before asking questions:
- Reports of Distinction;
- <<city name>> Lists by WT69.
I personally add a link in the Reports of Distinction thread, whenever I add a report having some general information value.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1108204]Good advice CN. I'm surprised however your post hasn't set off the usual firestorm of Mansion bashing and "shooting fish in a barrel" debate.

[/QUOTE]Seriously, I respect and admire the business capabilities of Aussie Greg and others who have set up the Mansion, the VIP, the Casa Blanca, etc. in Medellin. Those places must be great (I never even approached the door, so it's my guess) for US guys who want to try Medellin, but have never dared to explore Colombia or even do not speak a single word of Spanish.

Said this (I don't want anybody think that I am negatively biased against that establishments) , I really don't like to see that 50% (to be optimistic) of posts in the Medellin thread is still, constantly dealing with (or openly advertising) those establishments.

Dear fellows, SPECIFIC THREADS have been set up for these topics. Am I asking to much, if I wish that the Medellin thread features only reports about what's out there BESIDES what's available at the Mansion, the Casa Blanca, etc. Etc. ? May I politely ask the "supporters" or "satisfied customers" of those establishments to refrain to make this thread so well "focused" on that?

The majority of readers and posters on this thread does not belong to the categories of people "catered" by those establishments. We like (and find useful) to read reports on what's going on in the streets, in bars, in clubs, casas, etc. In other words, inputs for the meritorious work of World Traveller 69 (the Lists).

I hope everyone will accept my appeal as a constructive input and not as starting point for a firestorm, as Reefski mentioned.

Have fun, all!

First trip and no spanish skills. But I pick things up quick. 1900 cop = $1 US.

Jan 1st arrived. Some motion sickness from the insane turns from the taxi goin down to the valley. Nice guy stopped a couple of times to let me catch a break. He also took me to a spot for a nice panorama shot and asked directions to my hostel since I forgot. Far was 75k and I know the flat rate from the airport is 50k with 56k being max but he was a good guy with the stops and the nice views so it was no problem.

* Tipping, people don't tip taxis in Colombia but they may tip waiters 2k cop ($1 US). The girls in the strip clubs or casas should not be tipped unless they provide some outstanding service life GFE and BBBJ and if you decide to do it then tip them 20k cop ($10 US) but please remember it has to be for some beyond the call of duty service because their regular job is being paid to do you.

My hostel is nice with a 6 person Jacuzzi on the balcony and my dorm is 25k cop includes breakfast. This apparently is a family hostel because the 2 other dorms are taken by Colombian families. Calle 10 and Carrera 35.

Hit the casas Jan 2nd starting with New Life. 7 girls only. I heard most are tired from New Years and also its Sunday so slim pickings. Did Fernanda (nothing special but the room has its own shower and mirrors) and paid the cashier 40k and Fern gave me a playful push away so I figured she wanted the change. But just 5k seemed pretty small but whatever. Hit the nearest 6 hostels and all were closed or 2-3 chicas that were not worth a second or even a first pop. A regular told me that it's because of the celeb and Sunday factor. Later in week should be back to normal and not to judge by today.

San Diego grill was just a sit around and drink your beer place. Saw 4 really nice chicas out of 18-20 but didn't pull the trigger here. 10k for beer. Was taken to Las Luneras and no chicks but the Doorguy is from Jersey! He told me the deal 100k for ST and the girls will be coming. 10 guys here before 3 girls show and 2 of them are hot. Looks 8 but sexy and attitudes jumps to 9. (you don't get a 9 unless you have a perfect body and nice face attitudes can jump it to 10). Mine was 19 with perfect ass and abs cute face, ok boobs and tallish. 100k and we go to a big room with tv, bath, living room and she does a strip dance on the bed before we get to it. CBJ but she put the rubber on before I was fully hard so it was too tight and I couldn't get off. It was a fun romp and if I didn't have that condom problem then it woulda been much better. My friend took a petite one (8. 5) who he said changed to a French maid outfit before she stripped for him and blew his mind. She saw he was taking time so she even flipped and stuck his dick in her ass for anal. She was GFE for him and really playful the whole time. We had more drinks after but no more girls showed so 40k for the drinks and we were out.

More to come later. I got to go get some grub. (P. S. The hooters here is nice)

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1108534]Seriously, I respect and admire the business capabilities of Aussie Greg and others who have set up the Mansion, the VIP, the Casa Blanca, etc. In Medellin. Those places must be great (I never even approached the door, so it's my guess) for US guys who want to try Medellin, but have never dared to explore Colombia or even do not speak a single word of Spanish.

Said this (I don't want anybody think that I am negatively biased against that establishments) , I really don't like to see that 50% (to be optimistic) of posts in the Medellin thread is still, constantly dealing with (or openly advertising) those establishments.

Dear fellows, SPECIFIC THREADS have been set up for these topics. Am I asking to much, if I wish that the Medellin thread features only reports about what's out there BESIDES what's available at the Mansion, the Casa Blanca, etc. Etc. ? May I politely ask the "supporters" or "satisfied customers" of those establishments to refrain to make this thread so well "focused" on that?

The majority of readers and posters on this thread does not belong to the categories of people "catered" by those establishments. We like (and find useful) to read reports on what's going on in the streets, in bars, in clubs, casas, etc. In other words, inputs for the meritorious work of World Traveller 69 (the Lists).

I hope everyone will accept my appeal as a constructive input and not as starting point for a firestorm, as Reefski mentioned.

Have fun, all! [/QUOTE]Here here, Fair enough, maybe we could send Jackson an email and ask him if he could move the MM, CB thread towards the TOP of the forum list instead of all the way towards the bottom? I bet you this would help quite a bit.

Any one been to Dollhouse recently?

Just wondering how things work there.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1108542]First trip and no spanish skills. But I pick things up quick. 1900 cop = $1 US.

Jan 1st arrived.

* Tipping, people don't tip taxis in Colombia but they may tip waiters 2k cop ($1 US). The girls in the strip clubs or casas should not be tipped unless they provide some outstanding service life GFE and BBBJ and if you decide to do it then tip them 20k cop ($10 US) but please remember it has to be for some beyond the call of duty service because their regular job is being paid to do you.

[/QUOTE]Glad you're having fun amigo.

Tipping, well there are no hard fast rules, funny making a tipping guide though on first time, no spanish.

Can we not tip the chicas 10k cop if we want or 5k, or it has to be 20k?? Or maybe tip a waiter 5k instead of 2k??
hahaha :)

Have fun! Happy New Year!!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1108575]Can we not tip the chicas 10k cop if we want or 5k, or it has to be 20k? Or maybe tip a waiter 5k instead of 2k?

Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I read somewhere the normal waiters get paid 15k per day and locals only tip 2k. So up to you.

Someone PM'ed me about no spanish and girls.

I discovered no spanish means no hooking up with girls in clubs and taking them to your room. Casa girls and strip girls just do their thing because they can't say anything to me. I make the attempt but it's rough. I think that this changes if you are a bigger spender. Giving 100k to girls makes everything ok.

Also it seems like I am the only Chinese tourist in Medellin! I get looks alot.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1108542]First trip and no spanish skills.

My hostel is nice with a 6 person Jacuzzi on the balcony and my dorm is 25k cop includes breakfast. This apparently is a family hostel because the 2 other dorms are taken by Colombian families. Calle 10 and Carrera 35.

San Diego grill was just a sit around and drink your beer place. Saw 4 really nice chicas out of 18-20 but didn't pull the trigger here. 10k for beer. Was taken to Las Luneras and no chicks but the Doorguy is from Jersey! He told me the deal 100k for ST and the girls will be coming. 10 guys here before 3 girls show and 2 of them are hot. Looks 8 but sexy and attitudes jumps to 9. (you don't get a 9 unless you have a perfect body and nice face attitudes can jump it to 10). Mine was 19 with perfect ass and abs cute face, ok boobs and tallish. 100k and we go to a big room with tv, bath, living room and she does a strip dance on the bed before we get to it. CBJ but she put the rubber on before I was fully hard so it was too tight and I couldn't get off. It was a fun romp and if I didn't have that condom problem then it woulda been much better. My friend took a petite one (8. 5) who he said changed to a French maid outfit before she stripped for him and blew his mind. She saw he was taking time so she even flipped and stuck his dick in her ass for anal. She was GFE for him and really playful the whole time. We had more drinks after but no more girls showed so 40k for the drinks and we were out.

More to come later. I got to go get some grub. (P. S. The hooters here is nice) [/QUOTE]What was the name of the hostel? Did they have broadband internet? How did you get around, taxis? Cra 35 is pretty high up the hill from the main drag. Av. Poblado.

How much time did you & your friend get from your chicas at Luna Lunera for 100K? Did they charge a room fee? What time of the night did you get there?

Thinking of hitting Medellin and want to keep it under the radar. In Thailand my AT&T wireless service gives the caller the same ringtone in the USA and the voicemail exprience is unchanged. They have no idea I'm not in the states. However in Brazil, the ringtone changes and the voicemail has portungese prompts. Anybody know if I can get calls in my AT&T cell in Medellin without the caller having any idea I'm in Columbia? Thanks!

Simply put, had another great time in MDE. Arrived on Dec 19, left Jan 2, hit 7 casas over the.

Period, including AIFFE, Barcelona, Shannon's, Angles del Fuego, Tatianas, Pekin and Energia. All are.

In el Centro with the exception of Energia, and all, with the notable exception of Shannon's, are a great.

Time. Energia, in the estadio district, is a little more expensive, but the room is quite a bit nicer. I do.

The whole thing on my own, have worked on Spanish for the last five years, and cannot say.

How much extra the ability to at least speak some Spanish adds to the experience. Nowhere.

Downtown costs more than 50k for the hour, and honestly, if one is not willing to pay that for.

One of these girls, one should not bother to go to MDE in the first place. Weather could not have been.

Better, attitude at Christmas time tops. Another point I'd mention is the Metrolinea / Metrocable, a return.

Ticket is $1. 50 (US) , you can get all around the city for that, the route is spotless and totally safe.

Anyone going to MDE should make the effort to learn the metro, just in time saved alone getting to el.

Centro is worth its weight in gold.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1108696]I read somewhere the normal waiters get paid 15k per day and locals only tip 2k. So up to you.

Someone PM'ed me about no spanish and girls.

I discovered no spanish means no hooking up with girls in clubs and taking them to your room. Casa girls and strip girls just do their thing because they can't say anything to me. I make the attempt but it's rough. I think that this changes if you are a bigger spender. Giving 100k to girls makes everything ok.

Also it seems like I am the only Chinese tourist in Medellin! I get looks alot. [/QUOTE]Thats the ticket amigo! Just amazes me how many guys travel to Colombia with no or very little spanish skills.

Of course you can still have fun without communication, however, as you've discovered, speaking the language would surely make it nicer. And cheaper.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1108780]Simply put, had another great time in MDE. Arrived on Dec 19, left Jan 2, hit 7 casas over the.

Period, including AIFFE, Barcelona, Shannon's, Angles del Fuego, Tatianas, Pekin and Energia. All are.

In el Centro with the exception of Energia, and all, with the notable exception of Shannon's, are a great.

Time. Energia, in the estadio district, is a little more expensive, but the room is quite a bit nicer. I do.

The whole thing on my own, have worked on Spanish for the last five years, and cannot say.

How much extra the ability to at least speak some Spanish adds to the experience. Nowhere.

Downtown costs more than 50k for the hour, and honestly, if one is not willing to pay that for.

One of these girls, one should not bother to go to MDE in the first place. Weather could not have been.

Better, attitude at Christmas time tops. Another point I'd mention is the Metrolinea / Metrocable, a return.

Ticket is $1. 50 (US) , you can get all around the city for that, the route is spotless and totally safe.

Anyone going to MDE should make the effort to learn the metro, just in time saved alone getting to el.

Centro is worth its weight in gold. [/QUOTE]There is only one fallacy to what you did! Going to the casas, where they just present, is in my opinion, just hit or miss on the GFE! What ya missed out on is meeting them like I like to do, and that is to rap with them, and know whether ya have GFE upfront, and what ya are going to get. In the casas. Good luck to total GFE!

Just sayin.

[QUOTE=Charm City Dave;1108776]Thinking of hitting Medellin and want to keep it under the radar. In Thailand my AT&T wireless service gives the caller the same ringtone in the USA and the voicemail exprience is unchanged. They have no idea I'm not in the states. However in Brazil, the ringtone changes and the voicemail has portungese prompts. Anybody know if I can get calls in my AT&T cell in Medellin without the caller having any idea I'm in Columbia? Thanks![/QUOTE]I have att wireless and have had excellent service all over south america including Medellin. Just make sure you have all your international features on BEFORE you roam. Look at your online account and click all applicable boxes.

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1108780]Simply put, had another great time in MDE. Arrived on Dec 19, left Jan 2, hit 7 casas over the.

Period, including AIFFE, Barcelona, Shannon's, Angles del Fuego, Tatianas, Pekin and Energia. All are.

In el Centro with the exception of Energia, and all, with the notable exception of Shannon's, are a great.

Time. Energia, in the estadio district, is a little more expensive, but the room is quite a bit nicer. I do.

The whole thing on my own, have worked on Spanish for the last five years, and cannot say.

How much extra the ability to at least speak some Spanish adds to the experience. Nowhere.

Downtown costs more than 50k for the hour, and honestly, if one is not willing to pay that for.

One of these girls, one should not bother to go to MDE in the first place. Weather could not have been.

Better, attitude at Christmas time tops. Another point I'd mention is the Metrolinea / Metrocable, a return.

Ticket is $1. 50 (US) , you can get all around the city for that, the route is spotless and totally safe.

Anyone going to MDE should make the effort to learn the metro, just in time saved alone getting to el.

Centro is worth its weight in gold.[/QUOTE]I am very interested in others' opinions about one hour vs. 30 minutes in casas. My experience is the only difference between the two is 20k pesos because I never feel rushed at 30 minutes. I suspect the owners don't enforce time limits unless the place is packed and punters are waiting like the way it usually is at New Life.

I agree 100% with your comment about Shannon. Too bad we don't have consumer reports for the centro casas because they would shut Shannon down. Everything about it is substandard: girls, management, physical plant, and the wanker who chain smokes and stinks up the front room. AVOID

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1108696].

Also it seems like I am the only Chinese tourist in Medellin! I get looks alot. [/QUOTE]Maybe you're the only Chinese guy visiting those places. I don't know the number of Chinese people in Medellin, but considering the number of (so-called) Chinese restaurants there, it must be reasonable. But I recognize you're feelings because (I'm pretty sure) I'm the only guy from Indonesian origin that lives in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1108701]How much time did you & your friend get from your chicas at Luna Lunera for 100K? Did they charge a room fee? What time of the night did you get there?[/QUOTE]PM'ing you the hostel.

Taxis yeah, haven't explored the metro yet but that is soon.

Luna you supposedly get 30 min but my friend went 45 and it was fine. No one knocked or anything and room is included in the 100k. It's really more of a studio with bed and couches and mirrors. Got there at 11pm I think.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1108965]Maybe you're the only Chinese guy visiting those places. I don't know the number of Chinese people in Medellin, but considering the number of (so-called) Chinese restaurants there, it must be reasonable. But I recognize you're feelings because (I'm pretty sure) I'm the only guy from Indonesian origin that lives in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I suggest you to delete your post then, because the above statement makes you definitely identifiable by those who know you!

went back to new life and took johanna. soo nice. 35k for girl 3k for drink.

fase dos (ii) blows. got there at 9 and empty so left and came back at 10:30. 11:15. girls uppity. beers cost more if you sit at a closer table. some nice lookers but not many and atmosphere wasn't a happy one. the only happy girls i saw were the ones that came with their bf's. usually i tip with smiles and playful but these girls were all about putting the tip in their hand.

still a bit slow i guess. raining all week long so my trip timing was pretty bad.

today was special as some girls even went "mira, mira, es chino" and pointed me out while i was walking the markets toward botera park." little kids ran up to me in the museum and stood in front of me to get a better look. the stares are there and they try to hide it but when everyone is try to catch peeks it is apparent.

i wonder if it's raining in other parts of colombia but i want to try paragliding and do more recon before i go. hostel chick made it apparent she was up for fun and she wanted drinks but there are warning bells in my head about being a sucker or loco chica. we'll see what happens.

medellin is safe if you don't stand out. harder being asian because everyone stares. one guy i said 'ola' to as he passed. i thought was looking at me but it was apparent his fixed were fixed on my e-p1 camera around my neck as he passed. stay safe.

I've always paid for an hour in the casa, first because I don't like to rush like hell (getting old!) , and even an hour goes fast as hell. I always like to engage the girls in conversation, first, because I like to talk to them to practise Spanish, and second, to try, if only a little, to get into their heads a bit as to how they view life, which is utterly different than anything most of us could ever want to experience. They generally have a fatalistic view, especially when it comes to Colombian perro-dogs, the girls hate them, but always seem to fall in love with them, a complete oxymoron, but describes that infinite female ability to see exactly what is not there. The cost is completely irrelevant, when one has to pay $20 for a 3 minute lapdance where I live, who cares about $20 vs $30 or whatever, when one gets what we get.

Zig, have to smile at your post. I have been in a long distance relationship with a paisa for 3 years now, and she gives me all the GFE I want, too much at times. Like being jealous as hell! Going to the casas is the escape, and at least half the time I get an email or phone, and have to work around that. Dumped her this time for a couple of days, but, the soft fool that I am, saw her and worked out a compromise. Reality is that I can't get rid of her, and it is very hard, knowing the life she leads, and the money I give her, which means nothing to me, is everything. GFE means exactly that, you get the good and the bad

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1108795]I have att wireless and have had excellent service all over south america including Medellin. Just make sure you have all your international features on BEFORE you roam. Look at your online account and click all applicable boxes.[/QUOTE]Yep I know I'll have service, question is will anyone in the USA who calls me know I'm out of the country. As stated in Brazil the ring tone changes and the voicemail prompts are in Portuguess (which would kinda be a hint).

Your money is best spent. I am sure such an investment will bring a much larger return to you. I wish I had your wisdom.

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1109176]I've always paid for an hour in the casa, first because I don't like to rush like hell (getting old!) , and even an hour goes fast as hell. I always like to engage the girls in conversation, first, because I like to talk to them to practise Spanish, and second, to try, if only a little, to get into their heads a bit as to how they view life, which is utterly different than anything most of us could ever want to experience. They generally have a fatalistic view, especially when it comes to Colombian perro-dogs, the girls hate them, but always seem to fall in love with them, a complete oxymoron, but describes that infinite female ability to see exactly what is not there. The cost is completely irrelevant, when one has to pay $20 for a 3 minute lapdance where I live, who cares about $20 vs $30 or whatever, when one gets what we get.

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[QUOTE=Zig Monger; 1108794]There is only one fallacy to what you did! Going to the casas, where they just present, is in my opinion, just hit or miss on the GFE! What ya missed out on is meeting them like I like to do, and that is to rap with them, and know whether ya have GFE upfront, and what ya are going to get. In the casas. Good luck to total GFE!

Just sayin. [/QUOTE]Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut

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To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Neverenuff; 1109258]To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]It's like comparing Villa Mimosa to the Termas'. There is no comparison, LOL. Termas' are palaces of luxurious pussy. Casa's are dungeons of enslaved concubines. If you truly enjoy the experience of the Termas, then you cannot compare the two as being on the same plane. If you are just about shagging as many cute chicks as possible, then your money goes a lot further at the Casas.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man;1109166]my E-P1 camera around my neck as he passed. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Please, please, please don't perpetuate the Asian stereotype in Colombia. Rock out all you want like that in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus or when walking around in Clark Quay. In Colombia the camera goes in your pocket or bag.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1109207]Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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[/QUOTE]Cubanut,

Certainly, if you are a volume mongerer like yourself your approach seems just fine. Sadly not all of us have unlimited bullets, in my case 1 or 2 leches daily, maybe 3 if I really push it occasionally, is about all I can manage day after day, which means more often than not just a single chica on a given day. Given this, especially since I am usually in town for at most a week and sometimes only 5 or 6 days, I try find ways to maximize the possibility of each experience being GFE, as well as being able to spend some other getting-to-know time with the girl before or after the sex which adds to the experience for me and often for the chica as well.

For me it feels like any day in paisa heaven that I don't enjoy some GFE is a bit of a disappoinment. I have found dates with romancelatina girls work better for me and my desires than casas; incidentally many but certainly not all of these internet girls are also some time mansion guests. So far 100% of the girls I've "dated" from RL, probably a dozen or so over the last 3 trips, except for one that backed out completely on sex I guess due to her not liking me, have delivered full GFE. About half of those dozen or so also work regularly or occasionally at the mansion.

If others have recommended venues or sources where GFE rate tends to be high I am interested in hearing about them.

Tried to go to Maracaibo last night but seems it was closed so I hopped in Barra Ejecutivo which is right next to it I think. 20-30 chicas some doable (most not) with 2 very nice blondes. Las americas is next to it as well but surrounding area seems waaay dangerous. The dude who looks like a bald arab man sat a 2 girls next to me and my friend and later dropped some lady drinks. Hoped my friend would have argued since my spanish is non-existent but he's a newbie. Picked a girl and the guy said 80k so I countered with 50k like the reports said but he said 80k. I refused and said 'vamos' and he went down to 70k. Then there was a misunderstanding with the bill and my friend thought we needed to pay 37k extra for a room (which was included in the 80k) and the mood was kinda spoiled now that haggling / miscommunication was involved over women. Still took the chick for 70k though. Carolina was good at what she does and surprised me after I finished by giving me a CBJ AFTER I finished and trying to get me up again. Tipped her 20k for the cool effort. Chicks here are cool and the atmosphere is generally good as long as there is no miscommunication. The 80k price they threw at me doesn't match the location and mind you I argued the point and then refused it, and then refused it again after it went to 70k since I thought he was trying to rip me as the previous guides said 50k.

Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1108968]I suggest you to delete your post then, because the above statement makes you definitely identifiable by those who know you![/QUOTE]I don't mind and what is there to fear? Besides, the ones who will be able to identify me are the same ones who visit this thread.

[quote=hollow man; 1109166]went back to new life and took johanna. soo nice. 35k for girl 3k for drink.

fase dos (ii) blows. got there at 9 and empty so left and came back at 10:30. 11:15. girls uppity. beers cost more if you sit at a closer table. some nice lookers but not many and atmosphere wasn't a happy one. the only happy girls i saw were the ones that came with their bf's. usually i tip with smiles and playful but these girls were all about putting the tip in their hand.

still a bit slow i guess. raining all week long so my trip timing was pretty bad.

today was special as some girls even went "mira, mira, es chino" and pointed me out while i was walking the markets toward botera park." little kids ran up to me in the museum and stood in front of me to get a better look. the stares are there and they try to hide it but when everyone is try to catch peeks it is apparent.

i wonder if it's raining in other parts of colombia but i want to try paragliding and do more recon before i go. hostel chick made it apparent she was up for fun and she wanted drinks but there are warning bells in my head about being a sucker or loco chica. we'll see what happens.

medellin is safe if you don't stand out. harder being asian because everyone stares. one guy i said 'ola' to as he passed. i thought was looking at me but it was apparent his fixed were fixed on my e-p1 camera around my neck as he passed. stay safe.[/quote]no offense but you certainly didn't do your homework before getting on the plane. walking around anywhere in colombia with a camera around your neck is inviting trouble, put that fucking thing away before you have a knife or gun shoved in in your face. wtf.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1109451]Walking around ANYWHERE in Colombia with a camera around your neck is inviting trouble, put that fucking thing away before you have a knife or gun shoved in in your face. WTF.[/QUOTE]This is (as of today) a $500 camera, so mas o menos a million pesos. That is two minimum monthly salaries in Colombia.

Though I have a few other and better cameras, I only take a little Panasonic travel zoom point-and-shoot with me, it stays on my belt in a case and is generally covered by a shirt or denim jacket. I do not travel with ANYTHING I cannot afford to lose. I wear a $50 watch and use a basic cell phone I got from Ebay for $12.

I am not being paranoid, just careful. I was walking around La Candelaria in BOG in September, and a foreign guy walked by with what I think was a Nikon D-90 and an external flash gun mounted on it. A woman shouted at him from a store " Senor, be careful! Put that away!". The locals know.

[QUOTE=Tbird; 1109479]This is (as of today) a $500 camera, so mas o menos a million pesos. That is two minimum monthly salaries in Colombia.

Though I have a few other and better cameras, I only take a little Panasonic travel zoom point-and-shoot with me, it stays on my belt in a case and is generally covered by a shirt or denim jacket. I do not travel with ANYTHING I cannot afford to lose. I wear a $50 watch and use a basic cell phone I got from Ebay for $12.

I am not being paranoid, just careful. I was walking around La Candelaria in BOG in September, and a foreign guy walked by with what I think was a Nikon D-90 and an external flash gun mounted on it. A woman shouted at him from a store " Senor, be careful! Put that away!". The locals know. [/QUOTE]Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1109334]Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed. [/QUOTE]I don't know dude. It seems like you and your buddy who you say is a "newbie" are absolute poster children the kind that should stay in the confines of the MANSION. Walking around centro with your Canon or Nikons hanging around your neck. Your buddy who speaks some Spanish, is he latino or caucasian who speaks some spanish? (big difference) Considering you guys are staying in a hostel. You are prime targets for being robbed or worse even, being taken on the infamous "Pasaje Milionario" You're lucky somebody in the Bar didn't call and have you set up. Happens everyday.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1109334]Tried to go to Maracaibo last night but seems it was closed so I hopped in Barra Ejecutivo which is right next to it I think. 20-30 chicas some doable (most not) with 2 very nice blondes. Las americas is next to it as well but surrounding area seems waaay dangerous. The dude who looks like a bald arab man sat a 2 girls next to me and my friend and later dropped some lady drinks. Hoped my friend would have argued since my spanish is non-existent but he's a newbie. Picked a girl and the guy said 80k so I countered with 50k like the reports said but he said 80k. I refused and said 'vamos' and he went down to 70k. Then there was a misunderstanding with the bill and my friend thought we needed to pay 37k extra for a room (which was included in the 80k) and the mood was kinda spoiled now that haggling / miscommunication was involved over women. Still took the chick for 70k though. Carolina was good at what she does and surprised me after I finished by giving me a CBJ AFTER I finished and trying to get me up again. Tipped her 20k for the cool effort. Chicks here are cool and the atmosphere is generally good as long as there is no miscommunication. The 80k price they threw at me doesn't match the location and mind you I argued the point and then refused it, and then refused it again after it went to 70k since I thought he was trying to rip me as the previous guides said 50k.

Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed. [/QUOTE]Dude when I comes to drivers you should try to get one that you trust and just call him. They can even hang with you. That girl you got for 70k this was at the strip clubs?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1109482]Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. [/QUOTE]I too love the canons Artisttyp but I have upgraded from my Canon sd630. I chose to go with the Panasonic Lumix because of the wide angle function and the officlal LEICA Lens. Plus even a little cheaper. Takes crystal clear pictures and HD video at 12mp. [url]http://reviews.cnet.com/4504-4_7-0.html?id=33736875&id=34154931&tag=compare[/url]

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1109207]Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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[/QUOTE]She looked nice and gave a GFE. I hope you took her back home.

What is the chances of a little speaking white boy like me gettin a gf in Medellin?

I do plan on going into mongering but cash is easy.

I need a little love. Any chance?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1109482]Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. [/QUOTE]Artisttyp, I own the S95 and it is a fantastic camera. The fast 2. 0 lens makes it great for indoor shots without flash (dimly lit chica bars, anyone?).

However, it is almost $400 and I would HATE if anything happened to it. The Panasonic FH20 I travel with is only $139 on Amazon, has a decent lens, and its Intelligent Auto actually knows what it is doing. Also an 8x zoom for some tricky situations.

If after all these years of travel I finally get mugged in Bogota, they will not get much from me. The camera, a 3-year-old Skagen worth $50 at time of purchase, and an old wallet with 200K cash at most.

Yeah, after Botero park with the camera it didn't come out again so no worries about that.

Visited Atenea and great line-up 8 chicas but it was just for recon. Sexy salas had one chunky chick. Back to New Life which had good options. Took Karin and it was sterile but thats kinda the way I prefer it. My friend had a wild chick that he had alot of fun with. 35k girl. 3k water.

Friend's spanish blows too but it's better than my nada. Got a PM that says he rate is still 50k so it looks like I got taken. That blows too. Going to stick to the nicer clubs instead.

Weather is sunny until 2- then splooge again.

Wednesday nights apparently B-Lounge is the happening (normal) club. Packed and good music. 20k cover and hottest chicks but this is a normal club.

Parque LLeras had cuties just sitting around but I didn't try for it cause I was already with a tourist chick and I have no Spanish skills anyway.

In the end I find that picking up regular girls is easy enough as tourists chicks are good for fun, and if your spanish is good then local chicks are fun. Going to move on soon to scout out other parts of the country.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1109482]Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. [/QUOTE]I'm not really an avid photographer, but I have a dislike for poor cell phone pics and low quality snapshots, especially when a potentially great view of a cute chica is wasted. A bad result of a nice view, fuzzy, too dark or too light, was all too common for me. So about a year ago I bought a Canon Powershot S90 to replace my older Powershot A560. I just checked out the S95, it looks to me like the S90 is just a slightly lesser model.

Anyway, this S90 takes fantastic pictures, much clearer pictures than the older and lesser quality A560, especially under low light. The downsides are the S90 is a bit large and heavy for a point and shoot, and the quality comes at a price tag compared to the average PAS. But that price is still less than even the most basic SLR while producing very near SLR quality pics as far as I can tell, with little fuss and inconvenience.

Based on the quality of my recent photos, for my purposes I don't see myself ever bothering with an SLR. This camera will be more than satisfactory to me until it breaks down or is stolen.

[QUOTE=Furysys;1109176]I've always paid for an hour in the casa, first because I don't like to rush like hell (getting old!) , and even an hour goes fast as hell. I always like to engage the girls in conversation, first, because I like to talk to them to practise Spanish, and second, to try, if only a little, to get into their heads a bit as to how they view life, which is utterly different than anything most of us could ever want to experience ... [/QUOTE]I feel the same way amigo, I like to chill just a bit with ém before the love making.

Often leads to much better GFE.

Of course every once in a while you can choose bad and catch a dud, but it's only a waste of 20k pesos, the difference between an hour vs a half if she's not a keeper.

I've known the manager of New Life for years and when I find a sweetie there, I tell him 'tiempo libre' and just pay for whatever time I stay with the chica. And at times, it's been a few hours.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Cuero99; 1109665]I just checked out the S95, it looks to me like the S90 is just a slightly lesser model.

[/QUOTE]The ONLY difference between the two worth mentioning is that the S95 has 720p video whereas the S90 is VGA; and Canon tightened up a few dials.

Enjoy! Shoot hot chicas and share when you can. After my next trip I am stuck in SP until September. .

[QUOTE=Hollow Man; 1109564]Yeah, after Botero park with the camera it didn't come out again so no worries about that.

Visited Atenea and great line-up 8 chicas but it was just for recon. Sexy salas had one chunky chick. Back to New Life which had good options. Took Karin and it was sterile but thats kinda the way I prefer it. My friend had a wild chick that he had alot of fun with. 35k girl. 3k water.

Friend's spanish blows too but it's better than my nada. Got a PM that says he rate is still 50k so it looks like I got taken. That blows too. Going to stick to the nicer clubs instead.

Weather is sunny until 2- then splooge again.

Wednesday nights apparently B-Lounge is the happening (normal) club. Packed and good music. 20k cover and hottest chicks but this is a normal club.

Parque LLeras had cuties just sitting around but I didn't try for it cause I was already with a tourist chick and I have no Spanish skills anyway.

In the end I find that picking up regular girls is easy enough as tourists chicks are good for fun, and if your spanish is good then local chicks are fun. Going to move on soon to scout out other parts of the country. [/QUOTE]Dude, you need to have your eyes and ears open. When ever I ask the local is a place dangerous they say yes or no but, always say NOT to attract too much attention to yourself. If that guy gave you a price that was more then is charged to the locals then his can see that your a mark gringo. With money. Warning light should have went off. And you were carring a camera around. Wooosh. Dude.

I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

Thanks

I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

Saludos

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1109982]I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You should talk to Colashermosas.

But seriously, just read the last few post by Cubanut.

[QUOTE=Neverenuff; 1109258]To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Medellin casas and Rio thermas are very different things. I've had about 10 girls in Rio thermas and one from Copacabana, and all of them were either good or fantastic. Some of the best fucks in my life.

Medellin casas are normally 5 times cheaper than Thermas, but the girls' quality and performance is far from Brazileras in thermas. The good thing about casas, most of them are dirt cheap, so in case you have time and energy, you can go through many girls and find some gems. Then if you develop good "relationship" with them they can give you really good time.

To me brazileras were much more open-minded than most colombianas. But I guess it depends on personal taste.

[QUOTE=Colashermosas; 1110022]I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

Saludos[/QUOTE]Your friend is Linda why buena why simpatica? Manda me foticos why vamos a ver! Dale!

[QUOTE=Colashermosas; 1110022]I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

Saludos[/QUOTE]Just don't mention anythng cultural or the bluffers will come out in hoardes.

[QUOTE=Jfregedie; 1109982]I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Medellin Mansion (Casablanca) is a good place that can get one started. Everything all in one spot, bilingual staff who knows the ropes.

If you have a few weeks, speak proficiant Spanish and have street smarts the learning curve is fun and can pay off in the long run.

I have decided to join the contingent that is outraged that someone will come onto this forum, with almost a decade of reports from all over Colombia, subdivided into subjects like apartments, specific hotels, etc, etc, and ask, hey dudes, WTF should I do? I am highly offended (and outraged)! But if you really can't read, then I suggest you stay home.

how about changing the thread name "medelin list" to "medellin list (info for new comers)"? plus, copy/move some posts by cubanut and others for newbies to the thread?

[quote=chesrep001;1110380]i have decided to join the contingent that is outraged that someone will come onto this forum, with almost a decade of reports from all over colombia, subdivided into subjects like apartments, specific hotels, etc, etc, and ask, hey dudes, wtf should i do? i am highly offended (and outraged)! but if you really can't read, then i suggest you stay home.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Colashermosas; 1110022]I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

Saludos[/QUOTE]I don't think she is going to find 20 guys a month that will pay $200 a night no matter if she is a ten. That would be one almost every night when you take out the five days or so a month she is out of commission.

I've been to MDE twice, but only from PTY.

I have read that some company has inexpensive flights from the MIA (or a nearby airport) to MDE? Anyone have any info?

If your talking about miami airport, then you have to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale on spirit airlines. [url]www.spiritairlines.com[/url] They run alot of specials. But nickel and dime you but I enjoy flying with them its convenient for me.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six; 1110696]I've been to MDE twice, but only from PTY.

I have read that some company has inexpensive flights from the MIA (or a nearby airport) to MDE? Anyone have any info? [/QUOTE]

She isn't going to find even 3 guys that are going to pay that. 200, 000 peso top for all night, an she isn't getting no romantic dinner. Guys dreaming.

[QUOTE=Fun Luvr;1110457]I don't think she is going to find 20 guys a month that will pay $200 a night no matter if she is a ten. That would be one almost every night when you take out the five days or so a month she is out of commission.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can; 1110704]If your talking about miami airport, then you have to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale on spirit airlines.

[url]www.spiritairlines.com[/url]

They run alot of specials. But nickel and dime you but I enjoy flying with them its convenient for me. [/QUOTE]I appreciate the assist.

Hello guys,

I will be traveling to Medellin in Feb, during my last trip I met two cute girls on RL, one of the girls name was Bibiana, she was wild, smoked pot, and fucked my crazy, did everything I asked her including a bi-show.

She had her profile on this page [url]http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile.php?profile_id=1996614[/url]

But now I cannot find her, I do not have her phone number also, can someone help? Does anyone have her contact, some of her photos that I had.

[QUOTE=Joe Six Pack; 1110723]Hello, guys,

I will be traveling to Medellin in Feb, during my last trip I met two cute girls on RL, one of the girls name was Bibiana, she was wild, smoked pot, and fucked my crazy, did everything I asked her including a bi-show.

She had her profile on this page.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile.php?profile_id=1996614[/url]

But now I cannot find her, I do not have her phone number also, can someone help? Does anyone have her contact, some of her photos that I had. [/QUOTE]She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker

Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1110817]She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1110817]She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker[/QUOTE]Why oh why these guys continue to make hookers their girlfriend totally baffles me. Then they wonder why or scream injustice when they find out she still has her rolodex of top clients and is serviceing them them when the time is right. People just don't quit something they have going that brings in good money. Just ask Donald Trump, he still works.

Part A doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with having a hooker as a gf. You are absolutely right about Part B, these guys find them in a casa in el Centro, and figure they will save them by sending them money so they don't have to be hookers anymore. They will have the girl all to themselves. In fact, if it were me, I'd love her to service her regs, gives me time to check out what else is available!

Joe, that girl is incredible. Boobs real? What percentage of the girls at the casas look like that? I really need to go to Colombia.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a WU retainer and FB page?

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1111058]Excuse my ignorance, but what is a WU retainer and FB page?[/QUOTE]Western Union, FB is Facebook, let's GWTFP

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1110894]Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Hoping someone can help me. I want to visit Medellin this weekend and stay at the famous mansion. No luck with emails or phone calls. Is the mansion booked up?

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1110999]Why oh why these guys continue to make hookers their girlfriend totally baffles me. Then they wonder why or scream injustice when they find out she still has her rolodex of top clients and is serviceing them them when the time is right. People just don't quit something they have going that brings in good money. Just ask Donald Trump, he still works.[/QUOTE]Guy proposed to a MM girl last night, brought the ring from the USA. If he's smart he brought it home to keep it safe, won't be too long before it grows legs and walks away. Was told her 13 year old daughter blew a gasket at the thought of Mom marrying a drunk Americano. Guys do what guys do

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1110894]Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G. [/QUOTE]As I said "She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now." She's much less visible, gone from RL, gone from CC and her friend list on FB went from over 150+ to just 38. In addition to the one gringo who has her on lockdown, there are a total of 2 other mongers. That total used to be much higher.

Her profile photo is of her with said gringo so he's quite clearly marked his territory. Yes she still works, works often. But unless you have contact info, you have to be subtle about contacting her, she has it pretty good right now.

Same can also be said of Carolina, the cutie with the split lip. She is also on WU retainer by an American currently living in Tokyo. She did the same thing as Bibiana, put up a photo of her and said gringo as her profile photo, then purged most of her friend list. Her I have good conatct info for.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1111039]Joe, that girl is incredible. Boobs real? What percentage of the girls at the casas look like that? I really need to go to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Bibiana's tetas are real.

Casas can vary from day to day, hour to hour.

[QUOTE=Furysys;1111001]Part A doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with having a hooker as a gf. You are absolutely right about Part B, these guys find them in a casa in el Centro, and figure they will save them by sending them money so they don't have to be hookers anymore. They will have the girl all to themselves. In fact, if it were me, I'd love her to service her regs, gives me time to check out what else is available![/QUOTE]Many times gringos need to be told that in Colombia, there's no such thing as a steady barfine. You can lock them down when you're there, but the girls that have been in the game for a while and have dispensed contact info will get calls. None of them are turning down money and all of them think that the WU gringo will never find out.

Then someone takes a photo, and the drama begins.

Whats her last name so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.

Is there a way that I can set up the phone so that people calling me don't know that I am outside of the U. S? I live alone but relatives call me all the time and I don't want them to hear the international ring tone beep. I wouldn't really pick up though. I also want to see if there is a way that if I call them from overseas it shows my number. Not sure if I am making any sense here.

Hi guys,

I have stayed many a times in Casa Blanca I and II. My coming trip in February I plan to stay few days at CB 1 and then move on to an apartment for few days. I have noticed some of my girls would prefer to visit a nice condo. I would like to get some information from those who have stayed in a nice apartment near to Casa Blanca.

I am looking for some condo with nice amenities and if possible with Jacuzzi.

Please let me know on this board or via PM.

Regards,

John.

Try calling Sara today from 9. 30 to 6. 30pm, public holiday here yesterday and she took the computer home with her over the weekend and didn't have internet.

We did have a secretary here from 11. 00am to 8. 00pm Sunday and Monday but maybe she wasnt in the office when you called and I wasnt walking past the office when you called either.

I think we have 1 room available this week.

A. G.

[QUOTE=MrK;1111159]Hoping someone can help me. I want to visit Medellin this weekend and stay at the famous mansion. No luck with emails or phone calls. Is the mansion booked up?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tweeners; 1111180]As I said "She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now." She's much less visible, gone from RL, gone from CC and her friend list on FB went from over 150+ to just 38. In addition to the one gringo who has her on lockdown, there are a total of 2 other mongers. That total used to be much higher.

Her profile photo is of her with said gringo so he's quite clearly marked his territory. Yes she still works, works often. But unless you have contact info, you have to be subtle about contacting her, she has it pretty good right now.

Same can also be said of Carolina, the cutie with the split lip. She is also on WU retainer by an American currently living in Tokyo. She did the same thing as Bibiana, put up a photo of her and said gringo as her profile photo, then purged most of her friend list. Her I have good conatct info for. [/QUOTE]Ah Carolina, A great girl with a nice personality. I am surprised she only has one WU customer. She is a friend, but a little out of my price range.

[QUOTE=Tweeners; 1111183]Many times gringos need to be told that in Colombia, there's no such thing as a steady barfine. You can lock them down when you're there, but the girls that have been in the game for a while and have dispensed contact info will get calls. None of them are turning down money and all of them think that the WU gringo will never find out.

Then someone takes a photo, and the drama begins. [/QUOTE]Tiene razon mi amigo! How right you are, and as Lucky Eddie said, once they've found an easy source of income, they may be more discreet about it, but they'll keep themselves in the game.

I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little.

We've built 'uma amizade colorida' as they say in Brazil. A colorfull friendship.

I do feel bad, and I'm being sincere when I say this, when he calls from Europe and she's sitting on top of me riding and she answers the phone saying that she misses him.

I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.

Hey, I help some special girls out too, and at times I've sent them dinero, but I know what the deal is, and I don't believe that they're sitting around just waiting for me to call or return, and I don't really care.

For some guys though, it's all about the illusion, and it may just help them get thru the day in pussy prison, and it's still cheaper than actually marrying and then the subsequent BS.

Take care amigos.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1111300]I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.[/QUOTE]Very classy, whenever I know a girl has an ongoing financial support in place, I assume that said novio likely found her the same way I did, and read the same sites. I never out the WU novios, no point. He gets crushed, she gets no money, lose-lose IMO

[QUOTE=John Gault;1111281]Ah Carolina, A great girl with a nice personality. I am surprised she only has one WU customer. She is a friend, but a little out of my price range.[/QUOTE]She is the best.

I wish her and the novio all the happiness in the world

WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

Thanks

WU=Western Union=sending the girl money so she can stop being a "working girl" Har dee har har!

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963; 1111323]WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

Thanks[/QUOTE]See post #6101. Someone just asked this question yesterday.

SMDH.

You guys are talking about Angie or Bibi?

Yes, WU = Western Union

And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. Some of the girls have their own WU cards, they collect so often!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1111300]Tiene razon mi amigo! How right you are, and as Lucky Eddie said, once they've found an easy source of income, they may be more discreet about it, but they'll keep themselves in the game.

I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little.

We've built 'uma amizade colorida' as they say in Brazil. A colorfull friendship.

I do feel bad, and I'm being sincere when I say this, when he calls from Europe and she's sitting on top of me riding and she answers the phone saying that she misses him.

I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.

Hey, I help some special girls out too, and at times I've sent them dinero, but I know what the deal is, and I don't believe that they're sitting around just waiting for me to call or return, and I don't really care.

For some guys though, it's all about the illusion, and it may just help them get thru the day in pussy prison, and it's still cheaper than actually marrying and then the subsequent BS.

Take care amigos. [/QUOTE]Ricker I always enjoy your posts! I've been staying away because as of late it seems like the same questions all the time and the OG Mongers (OG=Original Gansta) with real info get stressed and upset. USE THE SEARCH feature!

I hear ya on the "Engaged" local girl, I was the other guy in this equation, the dude was from the UK and paid the rent, bills, ect. He saw her twice a year while I had my tooth brush and shave kit in the bathroom!

Do I feel bad for this guy? Nope.

I'm sure he wants to see her more but the idea, the illusion for him is that he has a beautiful Latina Chick that is all about him and only him. I'm sure he goes out for a drink after work and when he says "Blah-Blah-Blah my young, beautiful, Brazilian fiance. You want to see a picture?" and his buddies eyes pop out of their heads and he feels that smug feeling of pure awesome. He might have more loot than brains, if that's how he wants to spend his loot let him, it's his loot, his life, his dream.

Not hating, but I've been suckered before into thinking I was "El unico". It happens some girls just have that sexy-sweet-jedi-mind trick thing going on!

I still send certain "Special Girls" regalitos like flowers for their birthday, Christmas Cards, and yes a few bucks to help them make ends meet or for their kids birthday. Why the hell not? What's $50-$100 to me or to you? This amount of money is like 1 meal or a few rounds of drinks. For her it's the MOST AMAZING AND KIND GESTURE. If you play your cards right you'll be viewed in this light and not as some chump. You must dictate and control the process and perception. Don't be a Chump be a Hero. I can't explain how you do it cause the Game "is to be sold not told" if you've spent over $400 in a strip club in America / Sex Jail and NOT got laid than you don't get it. If you've taken a stripper home and spend little money and have no coke; clearly you're on the grind!

Anyway my point is $50 and you'll never need worry about service or any of that junk; just pure GFE if not actual Girl Friend time spent. It happens but you have to it right and be in control.

[QUOTE=Tweeners; 1111348]Yes, WU = Western Union

And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. Some of the girls have their own WU cards, they collect so often! [/QUOTE]Last month at MIA airport I met a guy that was also going to the DR. He was going to Santo Domingo to purchase heavy duty equipment to ship to Haiti. He previously had met a Dominicana that was tricking in Haiti and had retired her to Santo Domingo. He sends her 200usd per month and had 5000usd cash for his brief visit with her. He spoke no spanish, didn't have any common sense but had Haitian relief money out the ass. He was married in the states but was in love with this Dominicana. I had to get on the phone with her to confirm his airport pickup with her. He had no clue how the game worked and I kind of felt sorry for her.

His buddy was an older gentleman (62) and had a 23yo Dominicana (he pays for her apartment 500usd). She wanted a baby so he was going to get a reverse vesectomy to have a baby. I said"what if it doesn't work between you and her and you get put on child support". He said ill just leave the country. This pissed me of that he would intentially have a baby and run (the baby deserves better).

Some guys don't fucking think about what they are doing, they just do what feels good for now. The funny part is that I have women that have discontinued conversation with me because I don't send money. Then two months later I get a"te extrano" or 'te quiero mucho" text asking when I'm coming.

On the att network in Medellin my ihpone worked great. I make calls and receive calls and it all shows up like normal (like in the states) even texts. But the charges are thru the roof. So I just stuck to texting.

[QUOTE=Rickyj;1111234]Is there a way that I can set up the phone so that people calling me don't know that I am outside of the U. S? I live alone but relatives call me all the time and I don't want them to hear the international ring tone beep. I wouldn't really pick up though. I also want to see if there is a way that if I call them from overseas it shows my number. Not sure if I am making any sense here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cubfan1963; 1111323]WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Savepros is a nice guy. I can be abrasive. Open your eyes man!

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111118&viewfull=1#post1111118[/url]

I don't have a problem having a hooker for a girlfriend, but why send money when your not even there. How stupid can you be. Anyone that thinks a ho will stop being a ho because you send money is a fool. You know what they say about a fool and his money.

On the left is Bibiana and I believe (but am not sure) that this is the Carolina everyones talking about.

Reef

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1111193]Whats her last name so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1111300]I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tweeners; 1111348]And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is [B]subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time[/B]. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. [/QUOTE]When the out of town gringo is paying / subsidizing, the girl is very relaxed, chooses how and with who she wants to spend her time and performs really well. Especially if you have something together and it is not a PFP situation. She does not HAVE to work (in any job. Not just as a puta) so it is really good for her.

Like Ricker I have one who was engaged and now she must have some other highbrow or is back together with the first guy because she has a brand new big screened smartphone. She did tell me that she has been known to hang with the gringo crowd and I know that the fiancee is / was from New York. By the way she has no idea I know about her fiancee (if he still exists) and I do not pay her nor do I take her out. I slightly over pay her round trip cab fare from Envigado and give her some chocolates every now and then.

In that middle period between guys she used to stay the night but now no. So I know she has something going on with someone and I don't care. Also her level of performace has improved. No strings attached great sex no headaches and she's a pornstar in the sack.

Whoever you are guy. Thank you!

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1111193][B]Whats her last name [/B]so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.[/QUOTE]I can't believe no one has stepped forward and posted this poor girl's last name and other vital statistics.

Someone did post a link to the private webcam in her bedroom but I searched and I cannot find it. A little help?

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1111397]If no on has her last name maybe someone can post her credit report or grades from high school? Maybe a copy of her cedula?

I have a link I can send to the private webcam in her bedroom. Just PM me. [/QUOTE]Judging from all the folks who have recently shown up and who refuse to RTFF your going to be receiving an email soon letting you know that you've reached you ISG inbox quota, LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1111329]See post #6101. Someone just asked this question yesterday.

SMDH. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I did a search but came up empty and the abbreviation was not on the list. Thanks for the info. That sound you hear is my head bouncing off my table.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1111398]Judging from all the folks who have recently shown up and who refuse to RTFF your going to be receiving an email soon letting you know that you've reached you ISG inbox quota, LOL.[/QUOTE]At least you know I'm kidding. Also I altered my post a bit. Either way this guy is determined to steal this girl for his own wife and he's convinced that someone is going to post nude photos, facebook info, her home address and phone number here on a public forum. Hehehe

Last name is a fairly common Hispanic one. I remember a You Tube video of her that was smoking hot, fully clothed but just exuding her great personality and sexiness. I had emailed it to a buddy and just clicked on it now but got an error message. With removing a bunch of her FB friends and cleaning up any lingering RomanceLatina traces she's doing a good job covering her tracks.

Bottom line is she's kind of a Jeckel and Hyde but still a great girl most of the time. I hope she does well from this walking wallet she's lined up. Hell, there's a 50/50 chance he's an ISG member and reading this.

Reef

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1111397]I can't believe no one has stepped forward and posted this poor girl's last name and other vital statistics.

Someone did post a link to the private webcam in her bedroom but I searched and I cannot find it. A little help? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1111414]Last name is a fairly common Hispanic one. I remember a You Tube video of her that was smoking hot, fully clothed but just exuding her great personality and sexiness. I had emailed it to a buddy and just clicked on it now but got an error message. With removing a bunch of her FB friends and cleaning up any lingering RomanceLatina traces she's doing a good job covering her tracks.

Bottom line is she's kind of a Jeckel and Hyde but still a great girl most of the time. I hope she does well from this walking wallet she's lined up. Hell, there's a 50/50 chance he's an ISG member and reading this.

Reef. [/QUOTE]He's a monger, he met her at Chateau Greg, so I think the chances are very good that he's a member here. I can't out her by dropping the last name, what it comes down to is you know her or you don't. Book a room at the Mansion, ask Greg to write her number down, since he can't call putas anymore, and give her a call. I suspect that she'll meet anyone that she knows already.

If her WU hubby is reading this, please ignore the previous paragraph. While almost all girls on WU will continue to work, yours is different and will love only you, money isn't an object as she loves you for you.

It's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. When a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. Carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. Bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. But as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? I wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! Is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1111356]. I still send certain "Special Girls" regalitos like flowers for their birthday, Christmas Cards, and yes a few bucks to help them make ends meet or for their kids birthday. Why the hell not? What's $50-$100 to me or to you? This amount of money is like 1 meal or a few rounds of drinks. For her it's the MOST AMAZING AND KIND GESTURE. If you play your cards right you'll be viewed in this light and not as some chump. You must dictate and control the process and perception. Don't be a Chump be a Hero. I can't explain how you do it cause the Game "is to be sold not told" if you've spent over $400 in a strip club in America / Sex Jail and NOT got laid than you don't get it. If you've taken a stripper home and spend little money and have no coke; clearly you're on the grind!

Anyway my point is $50 and you'll never need worry about service or any of that junk; just pure GFE if not actual Girl Friend time spent. It happens but you have to it right and be in control. [/QUOTE]Totally agree amigo, nothing wrong with helping out some 'friends', and like you say, it pays back big time.

Today, I'm in Brazil, I brought a beautiful, sweet working girl an old, inexpensive cel phone of mine and bought a sim card for about $6 dollars, after I found out hers got stolen recently.

Her face lit up like she was a kid at Christmas :)

Do you think she showed me the love or what?

My knees are still wobbly. Hehehehe.

I love the sweet ones, when the little things make them happy, of course I roam far away from the gringo hideaways. No offense, I'm one too, it's just ... well, you know.

[quote=chesrep001;1111481]... i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks? ... [/quote]now now senor, i bet most guys wish these girls the best, i know i do.

i respected them and treated them well when they were working, and i respect them as well now.

the point guys are making is just to keep your eyes open if you happen to be the one in love with an ex-worker.

each situation is different, with some guys much more naive than others and some girls much more coniving than others. just depends ehhhh.

[quote=chesrep001;1111481]it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?[/quote]resources, money, education. . . do not equate to character. and it is not naive to believe that a good helping of compassion and care is the right thing to do. funny, but we all know, in almost any situation, what is the right or wrong thing to do. any effort to aid the suffering of another is a good thing. the buddha teaches that the purpose in life is to ease the suffering of others. pragmatically, a little care and concern is all it takes to be rewarded with passion and pleasure. nothing better than some "i know you do care about me" sex. finally, it's just good karma. otherwise, one is just a "jaded hating fuck." simple as that.

only good energy!

[quote=chesrep001;1111481]it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. [b]but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?[/b] [/quote]chesrep001, you making stuff up buddy or what? angry inside? need a hug? pass that spliff.

no disrespect intended but somehow you are bit confused and have interpreted that posters here don't wish these two girls and their guys happiness or success.

i missed that in all the posts here and thought the general jist was just that "they are still focking clients for $$ and the guy probably doesn't know or is being played." not to mention bibi is a self confessed aprepera (lesbian).

was there another point you somehow uncovered or was inadvertantly deleted demonstrating that posters here are naive, jaded and hating fucks?

Completely agree Ricker. When I was mongering mainly in SEA I started buying cheap earrings and giving them out to some of the more affectionate bar girls. Nowadays I find that works just as well here in S. America. When I'm in the US I get on Amazon and buy 6 or so sets in the $20 to $25 range, bring them back and then give them out when I feel like it.

I just need to remember to get out of town before their ears infect and turn green. Hah!

Reef

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1111482]Today, I'm in Brazil, I brought a beautiful, sweet working girl an old, inexpensive cel phone of mine and bought a sim card for about $6 dollars, after I found out hers got stolen recently.

Her face lit up like she was a kid at Christmas.

Do you think she showed me the love or what?

My knees are still wobbly. Hehehehe. [/QUOTE]

[quote=chesrep001;1111481]it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?[/quote]nothing wrong with wishing them well, but really the halos slip when they promise to stop working and don't. afaik carolina hasn't been working, bibiana does and right there is the difference and every wu lockdown starts with the same promises. some can keep those promises but the vast number don't. i'm guessing you are or at least a friend of bibiana's sponsor?

I always before I go get on e-bay and buy wholesale lots of make up. $15. 00 gets you 100 different things of make up. Lipstick, eye liner ect. From brand names. The girls go bonkers. Especially if is says Maybelline or Victoria secret. They love anything lip gloss, eyeliners, masquera. And I give it out to all of them. Talk about a little goes a long way! Now when I go back. They all know Santa showed up and boy o boy! Talk about attention!

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1111536]Completely agree Ricker. When I was mongering mainly in SEA I started buying cheap earrings and giving them out to some of the more affectionate bar girls. Nowadays I find that works just as well here in S. America. When I'm in the US I get on Amazon and buy 6 or so sets in the $20 to $25 range, bring them back and then give them out when I feel like it.

I just need to remember to get out of town before their ears infect and turn green. Hah!

Reef. [/QUOTE]

No, I'm not a friend of her friend, I don't know him. I am a friend of Bibiana's, or used to be, and Carolina also. I just think we should be helping these girls in general, and no one can take away my personal set of rose-colored glasses!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1111371]On the att network in Medellin my ihpone worked great. I make calls and receive calls and it all shows up like normal (like in the states) even texts. But the charges are thru the roof. So I just stuck to texting.[/QUOTE]So if I call you and I'm here in USA and you are in Colombia I hear the ringer as normal, meaning I wouldn; t hear the international beeping as the ringer? I have an iphone too on att.

Can't wait for the WU to get her the visa. Then I can save some money and Fuck her in the USA and not have to fly south. She told me last month she would be seeing me soon. I guess thats what she was talking about.

I agree with that 100%, I'm friends with both as well and any good fortune that finds them is Ok with me. We were just speaking to the reality of most WU arrangements.

I have known a beautiful paisa for almost 2 years. She styles hair, does manicures and pedicures out of her living room and also in a salon. She (and her sister) would NEVER be with a man in a P4P situation. Many of the Colombian women have the same "principales".

Finding a girl for a LTR who in the past has chosen to sell pussy instead of having higher standards will generally only lead to disappointment in the future. She will always have some sort of financial problem and her only solution in the past has been lay on her back. What do you think it will be in the future?

Its all good, Business is good, life is great, people are beatiful,"I don't care if she cums lays stays or prays, what ever happens, my toes keep tapping" I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good. If you want to "hit it and quit it" fine. If you want wife up, cool. If you love this hotel or that "bed and breakfast "place, thats fine, If you want to spend too much money, If you want to be a cheap charlie, no problem, just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1111720]Its all good, Business is good, life is great, people are beatiful,"I don't care if she cums lays stays or prays, what ever happens, my toes keep tapping" I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good. If you want to "hit it and quit it" fine. If you want wife up, cool. If you love this hotel or that "bed and breakfast "place, thats fine, If you want to spend too much money, If you want to be a cheap charlie, no problem, just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]I like this post. Just go with the flow. No worries and enjoy life.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1111720]I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good.... just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]Am I readiing the same forum? Who is bad mouthing and criticizing who? Maybe I have some posters on block?

Besides one guy with shit colored glasses (

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111524&viewfull=1#post1111524[/url]

) I have not seen any bashing, badmouthing or nonsense. Just the usual banter. JMHO

[QUOTE=Rickyj;1111622]So if I call you and I'm here in USA and you are in Colombia I hear the ringer as normal, meaning I wouldn; t hear the international beeping as the ringer? I have an iphone too on att.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what you have. When you are on another network roaming internationally and you have paid for International roaming with your carrier (ATT) when you step off the plane in Colombia the local 3G Comcel tower picks up your sim and communicates to ATT (everyone actually) that they have you and ATT responds back with an open gateway or 'yes' (because you have Int roaming). So when someone in the US calls your US ATT number ATT forwards the call to Comcel who knows where you are.

This is the point where ATT and Comcel are both handling your call. With ATT handling the US side: the caller to the sattelite, and Comcel handling from the comsat to you.

Note: Comcel is in charge of sending back whatever it wants through ATT and ATT has no idea what Comcel is going to send back (besides the basics) and acts as a conduit only counting minutes to charge you once the call is connected, so your callers will hear the Comcel international ring or the Comcel international busy signal or the Comcel international prompts in Spanish or your very own international voice as given to ATT via Comcel from you and your phone in Colombia.

Also the caller ID is not totally guaranteed to be accurate in both directions but is accurate about 90% of the time these days

[QUOTE=Hang Low 69;1111645]Can't wait for the WU to get her the visa. Then I can save some money and Fuck her in the USA and not have to fly south. She told me last month she would be seeing me soon. I guess thats what she was talking about.[/QUOTE]Any type of visa for her to enter the USA will take 6 months to a year so don't count on seeing her in the USA any time "soon". My money says she wouldn't go to the USA even if she had the opportunity, she makes good money in Medellin, has a Colombian boyfriend, all her family is here including her child and what is she going to do in the USA work in McDonalds? There are many girls that want to go to the USA but for every one of them there are twenty that wouldn't go under any circumstances.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1111738]Am I readiing the same forum? Who is bad mouthing and criticizing who? Maybe I have some posters on block?

Besides one guy with shit colored glasses (

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111524&viewfull=1#post1111524[/url]

) I have not seen any bashing, badmouthing or nonsense. Just the usual banter. JMHO[/QUOTE]I don't have anyone on block and I agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of WU gringos is considered bad. I'd have no idea why, I like them! They keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

If someone sees bashing, please point it out.

[quote=tweeners; 1111764]i don't have anyone on block and i agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of wu gringos is considered bad. i'd have no idea why, i like them! they keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

[b]if someone sees bashing, please point it out[/b]. [/quote]the only negaive bashing is by the gentleman who complained:

[quote=chesrep001;1111481]it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! [b]is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?[/b][/quote]i think maybe his meds need to be adjusted or he suffers from flashbacks or hot flashes or something. he seems pretty angry though.

[QUOTE=Tweeners; 1111764]I don't have anyone on block and I agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of WU gringos is considered bad. I'd have no idea why, I like them! They keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

If someone sees bashing, please point it out. [/QUOTE]Not really bashing on this board, but take a walk to the Casa Blanca Medellin forum as it concerns MDE.

I think it may come to blows. LOL

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1111817]Not really bashing on this board, but take a walk to the Casa Blanca Medellin forum as it concerns MDE.

I think it may come to blows. LOL[/QUOTE]That thread much like the actual property is a cesspool, but we know that when we post there. I was under the impression that this thread was being perceived as negative when I thought it was fine.

[QUOTE=Tweeners;1111832]That thread much like the actual property is a cesspool, but we know that when we post there. I was under the impression that this thread was being perceived as negative when I thought it was fine.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt9jAkWie4[/url]

I agree, we and men in general should try to help these girls foreign nations.

Just look at the american women back home. They treat men like garbage. America is such a feminized society. Women are really spoiled and demanding in the states.

While women in Columbia treats men pretty darn well. Columbian women does deserve more respect than what we give them.

[QUOTE=Tbird; 1109538]Artisttyp, I own the S95 and it is a fantastic camera. The fast 2. 0 lens makes it great for indoor shots without flash (dimly lit chica bars, anyone?).

However, it is almost $400 and I would HATE if anything happened to it. The Panasonic FH20 I travel with is only $139 on Amazon, has a decent lens, and its Intelligent Auto actually knows what it is doing. Also an 8x zoom for some tricky situations.

If after all these years of travel I finally get mugged in Bogota, they will not get much from me. The camera, a 3-year-old Skagen worth $50 at time of purchase, and an old wallet with 200K cash at most. [/QUOTE]You can get the S90 for around $200 now. Essentially same camera and same fast lens. Only difference is no HD video. However, HD Video with a CCD sensor is not that much better than standard definition anyways.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1111899]Women don't treat me like garbage in the USA either. Keep paying those Columbians to treat you like a man. I just got back from Colombia and I'll give my report in a few days on the NON pros. I'm an American and I love my fellow american women way more than Colombians. Maybe you are fat? Maybe you are ugly? Poor? All I know is that I'm banging these hot american women and you have admitted you are not of any competition to me. Sorry for your misfortune but please don't generalize 300, 000, 000 + million people.[/QUOTE]I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later.

"I've decided to go to Colombia because I need a break from all the hot American women that have been giving me pussy (my American women never argue, complain or are competitive). I land at MDE and on the tarmac are ten NON pros waiting for me with number cards with my name on it. As I'm escorted to a waiting taxi with these NON pros I can't help but feel sorry about all the hot American women I left behind. In the taxi the girls say they are tired of fat, ugly and poor Americanos, they also want a guy who won't pay them to be a man. The girls offer me money because I'm gorgeous, but being the gentleman I am I decline but let them pay the taxi. I'm rich and good looking so I fuck for free. These girls are on me like flies on shit, but I'm to pretty to fuck but I let one girl give me a handjob."

Thats your intro, look forward to the rest of your report.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1112033]I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later.

"I've decided to go to Colombia because I need a break from all the hot American women that have been giving me pussy (my American women never argue, complain or are competitive). I land at MDE and on the tarmac are ten NON pros waiting for me with number cards with my name on it. As I'm escorted to a waiting taxi with these NON pros I can't help but feel sorry about all the hot American women I left behind. In the taxi the girls say they are tired of fat, ugly and poor Americanos, they also want a guy who won't pay them to be a man. The girls offer me money because I'm gorgeous, but being the gentleman I am I decline but let them pay the taxi. I'm rich and good looking so I fuck for free. These girls are on me like flies on shit, but I'm to pretty to fuck but I let one girl give me a handjob."

Thats your intro, look forward to the rest of your report. [/QUOTE]Damn, I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure you had a number of American women sending you money via Western Union even though you are interdependently wealthy. And, you didn't mention that you are fluent in Spanish (without a hint of accent) but that is assumed. Whatever you do don't let these Piasas treat you like a sex toy. They will do that if you allow it.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1111899]Women don't treat me like garbage in the USA either. Keep paying those Columbians to treat you like a man. I just got back from Colombia and I'll give my report in a few days on the NON pros. I'm an American and I love my fellow american women way more than Colombians. Maybe you are fat? Maybe you are ugly? Poor? All I know is that I'm banging these hot american women and you have admitted you are not of any competition to me. Sorry for your misfortune but please don't generalize 300, 000, 000 + million people.[/QUOTE]Damn I admire you!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1112069]Damn, I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure you had a number of American women sending you money via Western Union even though you are interdependently wealthy. And, you didn't mention that you are fluent in Spanish (without a hint of accent) but that is assumed. Whatever you do don't let these Piasas treat you like a sex toy. They will do that if you allow it.

Only good energy! [/QUOTE]I think you missed the sarcasm of Mr. Gogo's post (which was a response to Runner Up). Ricker seems to get it though.

Runner up's post, while certainly mean-spirited, has a bit of truth to it. I don't think the 150 Million or so women in the US are substantially more or less "nice" or "good" than the women in Colombia. I've met some very decent

Women in the US.

The big thing we have going for us in Colombia is our $$$. We can buy a heck of a lot more pussy with those dollars in Colombia than we can in the US.

One think I will say Colombia (as well as Brasil, DR, etc) have going for them is that prostitution is legal. In this aspect, they are more enlightened than we are. They recognize that men want casual sex and that for some women, this is their best way to support themselves.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1112033]I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later....[/QUOTE]Most guys with game don't feel the need to report it on a public forum. trust me, I know.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1112107]Most guys with game don't feel the need to report it on a public forum.[/QUOTE]Exactamente amigo.

But I actually am looking forward to Runnys trip report. But its will take him a few days to make it up.

[QUOTE=Combo;1112095][B]The big thing we have going for us in Colombia is our $$$. [/B]We can buy a heck of a lot more pussy with those dollars in Colombia than we can in the US..[/QUOTE]The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he [B]takes home probably more than 10X the girl[/B], who mostly is [B]unemployed making ZERO [/B]but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner [I]probably is not able to meet her [/I]because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. [B] You will get laid [/B] I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like Colombia

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1112120]The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he [B]takes home probably more than 10X the girl[/B], who mostly is [B]unemployed making ZERO [/B]but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner [I]probably is not able to meet her [/I]because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. [B] You will get laid [/B] I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like Colombia[/QUOTE]

I like this post ... great analogy.
Now if I only get that $500K a yr job I applied for :)

You said that better than I could Lucky. Hopefully our Central Bank doesn't continue printing endless USDollars and

Devaluing our currency or in 10 or 20 years, the South Americans will be coming to the US for cheap pussy.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1112216]You said that better than I could Lucky. Hopefully our Central Bank doesn't continue printing endless USDollars and

Devaluing our currency or in 10 or 20 years, the South Americans will be coming to the US for cheap pussy. [/QUOTE]The only point I differ on is that 10 or 20 years is being very hopeful. The die is cast boys, lets enjoy it while we can. I know I am.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1112120]The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he [B]takes home probably more than 10X the girl[/B], who mostly is [B]unemployed making ZERO [/B]but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner [I]probably is not able to meet her [/I]because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. [B] You will get laid [/B] I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like Colombia[/QUOTE]This has to be one of the best posts I've ever seen on this board!

IMO you can do this plan in the US for $100K plus $500 is like for Wannabe Actresses and Vegas Level Stripper Girlfriends. If you make $100K+ you can or should be pulling about 95% of the women in the us. IMO most girls with what we would call good jobs in the US are making. $40-$65K so if you're making $100+ you can take her to Mexico for a 3 day weekend and these "Super-Hot-Dimes" USA version will hump the shit out of you; or you can go to Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Panama, take a girl of equal "Super-Hot-Sexy" quality just lacking in English skills and buy her a soda, pizza, and take her to a movie and get the same result, oh and the soda, pizza, and movie cost about a third of what it does back in your respective country.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1112080]I think you missed the sarcasm of Mr. Gogo's post (which was a response to Runner Up). Ricker seems to get it though.[/QUOTE]Oh, my bad. But, I really do mean what I wrote about not letting the Piasa chicas using the Yankees as sex toys. In fact just a few months ago I went into this place they called a "casa" in el centro. I think they call it the New Life. Unlike Mr. Gogo, my spanish is not so good. There were 10 or 12 lovely young girls and I'm sure they understood my offer that if they would make love to me for free that I would pay for the room. I was lead to one of the rooms, and without much persuasion this beauty took off her clothes and had her way with me. On the way out, I just stopped at the cashier and paid the COP equivalent of $20, for the room, of course, so there must have been a "meeting of the minds."

Sure, I felt a little cheap about being so easy, but the more I though about it, I think we really made a connection. You would never guess it, but I've never been so lucky with women in the good old USA of A. Any advice on getting my girl to our own little love nest in Aramarica. . . .

Mr. Gogo, no, I really meant the guy that I really admire,"Runner Up", please tell me how you do what you do. I'm trying to learn, and I am feeling really good about my progress, but always looking for pointers to be more "cool." I could write about Susie, my co-worker at Walmart that actually touched my penis while we were stocking Hello, Kitty dolls in the merchandise room. She said she was sorry, that it was an accident, but I didn't believe her. But, that's for a different forum. Sorry, I digress.

Oh, by the way, what is sarcasm?

Only good energy

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1112399]Oh, my bad. But, I really do mean what I wrote about not letting the Piasa chicas using the Yankees as sex toys. In fact just a few months ago I went into this place they called a "casa" in el centro. I think they call it the New Life. Unlike Mr. Gogo, my spanish is not so good. There were 10 or 12 lovely young girls and I'm sure they understood my offer that if they would make love to me for free that I would pay for the room. I was lead to one of the rooms, and without much persuasion this beauty took off her clothes and had her way with me. On the way out, I just stopped at the cashier and paid the COP equivalent of $20, for the room, of course, so there must have been a "meeting of the minds."

Sure, I felt a little cheap about being so easy, but the more I though about it, I think we really made a connection. You would never guess it, but I've never been so lucky with women in the good old USA of A. Any advice on getting my girl to our own little love nest in Aramarica. . . .

Mr. Gogo, no, I really meant the guy that I really admire,"Runner Up", please tell me how you do what you do. I'm trying to learn, and I am feeling really good about my progress, but always looking for pointers to be more "cool." I could write about Susie, my co-worker at Walmart that actually touched my penis while we were stocking Hello, Kitty dolls in the merchandise room. She said she was sorry, that it was an accident, but I didn't believe her. But, that's for a different forum. Sorry, I digress.

Oh, by the way, what is sarcasm?

Only good energy[/QUOTE]Very funny and I hope when you are back in Walmart Susie gives you a BJ. I think a BBBJ at this point is a little premature.

Mr. Lucky Eddie, in very politically incorrect terms, you have described exactly the situation. Other than hoping I am not a snivelling pile of shit. That exactly describes the girl I have been with for about three years off and on. Earns about 700k pesos a month, works 50 hrs a wk, has (only 1) kid, thank God, and has a little space in her place, she has her own room in Bello, and yes, I do that for her, she stays with me in Poblado when she can stay over, gets taken to LLeras, the whole bit, and I get laid silly by her. Of course, during the day, she is working like hell, I can run off to el Centro. She doesn't have time for anything else, basically works, sleeps, eats, takes care of the kid, and maybe a little walk on the cyclovia on Sundays, that's it. Where I live in Western Canada, the women don't need men, they make plenty enough on their own, the only reason for a guy is to spend a few months with him, then rip off everything she can.

Excellent observations. You get an A for todays lesson.

All I can add to the WU thread is at least he's not sending money to a fugly chica!

Oh and I received my Rentista visa today so in light of my imminent flight from confinement here in sex prison I would like to make Bibiana's WU bf an offer:

For a small fee I will thoroughly investigate whether or not the subject in question is indeed on the straight and narrow. If I am successful in playing hide the weiner in exchange for pesos then you may feel free to thank me for services rendered. I promise if she has fallen off the wagon I will derive no pleasure in poking her. I am a professional and making whoopie with her will be just another job for me.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1112286]Medellin is getting a reputation for bozo gringos coming in and taking prepagos to dinners, movies and shopping. Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything. PLease leave you prepagos in the casas or the streets where you meet them.[/QUOTE]Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.

Pretty good report there Runner. You do have a little game after all. Kudos.

Holy shnikes I completely missed that post. I personally try not to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anybody off while I'm in Colombia, chicas included. If he keeps that up sooner or later it WILL catch up to him and then, Pobrecito!

My personal goal is not to even bother with non pros on my next trip down. For me I'd rather throw some pesos down and get what I want without playing games and chasing after it. Also I don't want to make enemies of non pros (or their friends and family) , since I WILL get tired of them sooner rather than later. Why waste their time or mine? Not to mention the hard feelings. If a girl is up for NSA that's one thing. But I will never lead a girl on down there.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1112566]Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1112566]Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]144816[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Great photo, and she looks pissed. I guess she didn't want to pay her taxi LOL. I really liked Runners report. A couple things I want to comment on."Nosey Colombians"? Runner I only found Colombians nosey is when we step into their lives. Otherwise Colombians will walk by you without even missing a step. Also be careful with the "meet the family" shit, especially if your intentions arent honorable. You can fall to "that no good mf" quick and the family won't be to sad if something happens to you.

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112286]... Never saw her again but every day we made plans for the next day and I just never followed through. She probably hates me now and in hind site she was probably the best girl I met the entire trip. Enemy #1.

... Met another girl. I never called her a gain. Enemy #2.

... She left thinking I would call her the next day. Never called her but took a couple of calls from her. Enemy#3.

... Well the main 20 year old kept me happy all week. This girl was good but I left the country again without saying by to her like a big a hole.

... Enemy #4.

... Medellin is getting a reputation for bozo gringos coming in and taking prepagos to dinners, movies and shopping. Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything. PLease leave you prepagos in the casas or the streets where you meet them. [/QUOTE]

Enjoyed reading your report, though I'm glad I don't have your Karma.
I just don't have the heart to romance, build-up expectations, and dump decent girls with no explanation, at least not anymore.

I've done it, I'm no saint for sure.
If you can speak spanish and you've got even a small amount of charm in you, and you're not afraid to approach girls, you can easily get dates with non-pros and with a little more charm, get them to fall for ya a bit and put out.
The bad I personally felt from it afterwards, however, was not worth the little bit of fun I got from it.

I still like to mix it up with non-pros, but I'm a bit more honest with them these days, especially with the truly decent girls.

By the way, I think Medellin may be getting a reputation for another type of gringo too, besides what you mentioned.
As you say, Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything.

Good luck ...

[QUOTE=Napalm;1112662]Holy shnikes I completely missed that post...[/QUOTE]It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1112779]It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.[/QUOTE]From what I understand most replies post asap. But you can get flagged very easily here (I'm one) and your posts are under moderators review before they post. It could be a simple sentence stucture error or if you have a reputation as a trouble maker, or someone else can complain about you. I was flagger because of my writing style but was told when I do 25 perfect posts I will be off probation. Its important to always look back for old posts especially if the forum moves fast.

Its funny because on facebook (which is 100 times bigger than ISG) you arent required to have perfect gramar. But on a sex forum you better cross your Ts and dot your Is.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1112779]It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.[/QUOTE]

That does seem to be the case. Hopefully it's only a temporary glitch.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1112598]Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.[/QUOTE]When I was in the States I was "doing" my best friends twin sister, who was married to my second best friend!

That was 35 years ago (she's 3x divorced) and we are all still great friends!

I never heard of any unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister? If she is of age and wants to fuck who cares if she is my friends sister. I don't see a problem.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1112598]Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112863]I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else. [/QUOTE]Well, good luck in your search for perfection and from protecting yourself from the bad Karma :)

Just a little secret though, you're not going to find perfection anywhere you take 'your party', and the Colombian beauty is pretty hard to beat actually.

Happy travels.

You must be kidding? I guess your perfect? Bud, you need to grow up!

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112863]I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112863]I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma.

They always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! [/QUOTE]I can relate to the hotel comment. I like to find a home and stick with it. However once the cat is out of the bag I feel uncomfortable about the staff knowing my game. It *could lead to repercussions.

There is one woman at the hotel desk (where I stay) that doesn't like me and she lets me know it. I am still courteous to her but it is still uncomfortable. I am a pig and I know it but I'd prefer to be low key.

CHOPPED MEAT. You find that in almost any affordable pfp venue! My advice is to get into it. When I look in the mirror these days I would have a hard time sleeping with me for $17. My waist size has grown considerably and compared to a few years ago and I am starting to develop ***** tits. If anything somewhat attractive wants to sleep with I consider myself lucky. Throw all the cottage cheese MILF's my way.

My my my, we do have an inflated opinion of ourselves, don't we? That would be a problem, eh. 5 gorgeous paisas fighting it out to say goodbye to you at the airport? And worrying about making all these enemies?

I'll tell ya, the average paisa girl probably has an attention span with a gringo of about 25 minutes. If you don't phone back, she'll go on to the next and sure as hell won't worry about you. And they are all pros, ESPECIALLY the 'nonpros'!

My hunch proved correct. Our brother Runner Up is a troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. So he must be bored, too. He uses his time and Jackson's hard drive space to suggest a disrespectful and mean spirited interaction with Colombian girls is productive or should be approved. I don't believe anyone is that stupid. Not only is it bad karma, it's simply unproductive in life. I spent a few minutes reviewing his prior posts (excluding the ones, by definition, that were previously deleted by Jackson as per policy) and the thrust of his writings universally fall within the definition of trolling.

Now my "boring" episode has lead Runner Up to his goal. Some attention. Let's hope he fulfills his promise and moves on to other venues than Colombia, and, it follows, from this forum. These made up stories where the theme is that irresistibility allows cruelness is of no value.

Only good energy (with a special dose for RU)

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112863]I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1113134]My hunch proved correct. Our brother Runner Up is a troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. So he must be bored, too. He uses his time and Jackson's hard drive space to suggest a disrespectful and mean spirited interaction with Colombian girls is productive or should be approved. I don't believe anyone is that stupid. Not only is it bad karma, it's simply unproductive in life. I spent a few minutes reviewing his prior posts (excluding the ones, by definition, that were previously deleted by Jackson as per policy) and the thrust of his writings universally fall within the definition of trolling.

Now my "boring" episode has lead Runner Up to his goal. Some attention. Let's hope he fulfills his promise and moves on to other venues than Colombia, and, it follows, from this forum. These made up stories where the theme is that irresistibility allows cruelness is of no value.

Only good energy (with a special dose for RU)[/QUOTE]You would figure that on a sex board that everyone could agree to hunt pussy with respect to other individuals and fair pricing structure. But here you have some arrogant, conceited, and selfish dudes who are only about exploiting a good thing for self gratification. Take, take and take. One dude wanted to talk a girl down from 20usd for a quickie. Then he pays 20usd for a hamburger and fries. This same guy complains all the time about guys overpaying and fucking up the game.

Alot of these guys get shitted on by women in America and then want to go to a third world country and be a major player because you can talk a girl down five dollars. What the fuck is 5usd?

Ricker your preaching to the choir but they don't hear you. Karma is a mother fucker. But every dog has his day.

That hole you mentioned, is that the divot most Americans (older) have from mandatory vaccinations? Curious as to when you were born and where you grew up should you not have that divot? Now a many woman and little girls are being vaccinated to defend against some form of cancer. I think it is cervical. Maybe you should look at that 'hole' as a good think better then the cancer from many of the druggies in other parts.

Mole on her ass that is what makes the 'most beautiful girl ever' ugly?

Long black hairs, you did not spend much time in the hole just on the neck. You could not offer her a tweezer or pay for some electrolysis? After all how much could 5 long black hairs cost to remove?

Yes, small tits but I hate more the enhanced so please to not complain about small, there are already too many who get stuffed with silicon.

I do not say most of the Colombians are great looking but there are enough too make it worth my visits. I get much more (quality and features for a lot less) than in the states. If they are not good enough for your dabbles move on. There are plenty more locations to enjoy.

On this last trip I picked up one who claims to be 18, ohaja; she was great. The only negative was that I could not fit more time into my schedule for her. With the children and the jealousy of the ex-wife (taking away, again, the rights she gives me with my children) I could not fit her in too much but I will see her again on the next trip. Great slim and tight body (event after having her 18 month son) , just as I enjoy. She does have small tits that we probably enhanced by her pregnancy.

The other on this last trip I met at a casa near Parque Bolivar. The one a flight up from a gym. She is chunky bit not a pig and I was instantly taken by her face, so sweet. Not my usual type but fine by I made my choice and it turned out to be the right one! She did not BB everything but did a little extra for a little more. She, is one I will spend a lot more time with on my next visit (if I can find the card I put her.

Neither are enhanced medically and both provided happiness. Both seemed to enjoy my company and even after I explained my marriage created vow of partial poverty and provided me with phone numbers before we separated.

And then there is my ex-wife, the most beautiful ever. Hey was that the beauty mark on her ass you were disgusted with?

No where you will find perfection but I have found close to it several times in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112863]I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else. [/QUOTE]

How much room would you have to stike up a conversation. Anyway, I think I and others have put too much into his 1 cent.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1113157]Lat item, although minor, I was surprised to read Runny flew in the back of the plane. A previous post Runny had said how he's worth "millions". It's so "nice" to see a millionaire slumming and flying coach. (a true man of the people)

Reef. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1113149]. Karma is a mother fucker. .[/QUOTE]Truer words were never written. Karma IS a mother fucker. I recall that recently there was a discussion of the advisability of sending some lovely Piasa a few COP's via Western Union on a regular basis. Now, that might be a decision that enhances one's karma. The Buddha wrote, in substance, that if a person knew the joy that he felt in giving they would never have another meal without sharing it. The WU discussion seemed to focus on the fact or assumption that those who have shared their bodies for money would continue that practice. Frankly, I wonder the relevance. One thing for sure, if your benefactor is fucking you, she isn't fucking another dude at THAT time.

By analogy, I was in Times Square during the summer with an American woman. A homeless dude came up and gave me the usual: "I haven't eaten in 2 days, can you give me some money to eat?" I discretely slipped him 5 or 10 bucks, and off he went. My companion looked at me with disgust and disapprovingly said that he would just go buy alcohol or drugs. My reply was what he did with the money that I gave him was not my problem. It wasn't my concern.

Hey, being a "sponsor" furnishing what you can, but always WHEN you say you will do it, can give you some good mother fucking karma. Besides soon you know whether she is using the money for helping with her family or something that improves he future or just spending like a self indulgent and narcissistic western female. Chances are you will hear that her child got a new. . . . Or is now going to a better school. . . .

Finally, there is nothing better than "thank you" "you make a difference in my life" sex. First thing you know, she is bringing her cousin or some other hot young girl to bring you pleasure, too. Now, that's mother fucking karma.

This sponsorship idea is fairly well established in Eastern Europe. I don't remember that idea being discussed here. I wonder how many respondents would show up in response to an offer in a media that would reach the university community? Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1113189]Truer words were never written. Karma IS a mother fucker. I recall that recently there was a discussion of the advisability of sending some lovely Piasa a few COP's via Western Union on a regular basis. Now, that might be a decision that enhances one's karma. The Buddha wrote, in substance, that if a person knew the joy that he felt in giving they would never have another meal without sharing it. The WU discussion seemed to focus on the fact or assumption that those who have shared their bodies for money would continue that practice. Frankly, I wonder the relevance. One thing for sure, if your benefactor is fucking you, she isn't fucking another dude at THAT time.

By analogy, I was in Times Square during the summer with an American woman. A homeless dude came up and gave me the usual: "I haven't eaten in 2 days, can you give me some money to eat?" I discretely slipped him 5 or 10 bucks, and off he went. My companion looked at me with disgust and disapprovingly said that he would just go buy alcohol or drugs. My reply was what he did with the money that I gave him was not my problem. It wasn't my concern.

Hey, being a "sponsor" furnishing what you can, but always WHEN you say you will do it, can give you some good mother fucking karma. Besides soon you know whether she is using the money for helping with her family or something that improves he future or just spending like a self indulgent and narcissistic western female. Chances are you will hear that her child got a new. Or is now going to a better school.

Finally, there is nothing better than "thank you" "you make a difference in my life" sex. First thing you know, she is bringing her cousin or some other hot young girl to bring you pleasure, too. Now, that's mother fucking karma.

This sponsorship idea is fairly well established in Eastern Europe. I don't remember that idea being discussed here. I wonder how many respondents would show up in response to an offer in a media that would reach the university community? Any thoughts? [/QUOTE]Hold up brother I think you have it a little twisted. But first were not going to turn this into"The karma" board. If you give a homeless guy money to go buy liquor, thats not establishing good Karma. Maybe offer to buy him something to eat from Mcdonalds would be better because you know your good deed went to something positive.

Also how is "sponsoring" a chic who fucks guys when your not there good Karma? Save that money for when you are there and spend it on her when she fucks you. Is sending WU money that her boyfriend spends on drugs good Karma for anyone?

Also treating her nice in the hopes that you can bang her cousin is not good Karma. Good Karma would be to not fuck her cousin because you respect her.

Hello, all; There is a Party at Hotel VIP on Friday January 21, 2011.

Where: Calle 5 No. 43 the 26 Patio Bonito, Medellin, Colombia near to Parque lleras.

What time: At 8:00 PM on Friday Jan 21st 2011.

Entry fee is $20, 000 peso or $10.

Call harry [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] for more info

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By the way, I think Medellin may be getting a reputation for another type of gringo too, besides what you mentioned.

As you say, Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Yo ricker, Ziggy here. Just wondering what other type of reputation we may be getting? I have heard things recently, too, and wondering if you have heard the same things?

You have ment me before, I walk with 2 artificial legs, just so you can remember me my friend, but I am concerned about what this other reputation is? The reason that I am asking is that I was told that I talked inapproapriatly to chicas on facebook. Heard anything about this. Supposedly there are crusaders who live there who are about to cause some problems. Only because they are upset with the sheer number of gringos who are stomping on their playground!

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1113204]So basically you're saying.

I'm scared of American women with blue or green eyes and tall with a job and would rather pay you to make me feel like I made a difference in the world with a few crappy gifts! Great! What a life! Can't wait until I'm old and retarded to be like you! [/QUOTE]Everybody"s entitled to an opinion

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1113172]I know that if I was banging prepagos I could pal up with you guys and talk some english on my trips. I know I could sit in bars and casas and drink and then pick up a girl and bang her. I know I could fratinize and feel like I have some friends on this board.

BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM.

I know from my perfect spanish that these girls aren't the same as the ones I'm hangin with. They are any of these combinations. Poor, dumb, adicted to drugs or lazy. The thought of me rolling around with a girl that sleeps with countless men / day is liken to me sticking my penis in a clogged up urinal. It would be torture for me, to roll around in a bed in a casa with spooge on the wall, burgars on the wall, and cooties everywhere is not a good vacation to me.

Sorry, just the way I feel. I thoroughly check out my ladies before acting. As previously mentioned if a girl likes me she likes me enough to go to el centro and get the 1 hour all std check! I still where a condom though.

I just hope when I get Old (never fat or sloppy and drunk) I don't think "ALL THE GIRLS ARE PREPAGOS", that would be sad, sad, sad.

Most women want to be loved and marry and love their kids!

You can put me down all you want but the real problem with gringos are the sex tourists. Look at the jaded countries like brazil, Costa rica and DR. I put lots of smiles on the faces of everyone I encounter when out of the USA.

This isn't a fight, it is fact. [/QUOTE]Why are you posting on a prostitution board?

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1113248]Why are you posting on a prostitution board?[/QUOTE]If you've ever had stray dogs or cats hanging around your place you know not to feed them because everytime you open your front door there they are expecting to be fed again.

It's the same thing with trolls. Don't feed the trolls. Else they won't go away.

I agree, let not go crazyy with all this Karma talk, but fukit I will add this to the conversation and this is no bullshit. Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1113197]Hold up brother I think you have it a little twisted. But first were not going to turn this into"The karma" board. If you give a homeless guy money to go buy liquor, thats not establishing good Karma. Maybe offer to buy him something to eat from Mcdonalds would be better because you know your good deed went to something positive.

Also how is "sponsoring" a chic who fucks guys when your not there good Karma? Save that money for when you are there and spend it on her when she fucks you. Is sending WU money that her boyfriend spends on drugs good Karma for anyone?

Also treating her nice in the hopes that you can bang her cousin is not good Karma. Good Karma would be to not fuck her cousin because you respect her. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1113346]Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.[/QUOTE]A beggar asks a man in car at a traffic light for some money to eat.

The man says, 'If I give you the money, you will just use it to buy booze'

The beggar says, 'No, I don't drink'.

The man asks, 'Then you will just gamble it away'

The beggar says 'No, I don't gamble'.

"Well you'll just spend the money on a hooker in the red light district instead of food" barked the man.

"No I don't believe in paying for sex" replied the beggar.

Then the man asks, 'Then will you get in the car and come home with me so my wife can see what happens to a man who doesn't drink, gamble and sleep with hookers? '

[QUOTE=You Can;1113346]I agree, let not go crazyy with all this Karma talk, but fukit I will add this to the conversation and this is no bullshit. Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.[/QUOTE]I like that. Tell them to get high not go eat.

One time when I lived in a rough area I walked out of my house and a guy asked me for money to go eat. At that time we had just finished a real good dinner and had a lot of good leftovers. I tell the guy wait a minute and I will help you out. I go in my house and make a great sandwich with crisp Italian bread and I then go outside and hand it to him. He looked like I had just given him a sack of monkeys.

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1113203]Jeeze, this guy has never spoken to anyone on a plane one seat in front of him! What a loner!

I'm done with you people. Jajaja[/QUOTE]Why do you and so many mongers feel the need to prove that they are not really mongers or have graduated to suddenly being real men who don't pay for sex anymore?

Never in his life has Donald Trump bragged about having money.

Brad Pitt never had to tell his friends "I'm a ladies' man with game, chicks dig me"

Lady Diana never said "I have class" or "I am affluent"

Einstein never told anyone,"I'm a smart feller"

These people don't have to say it, in fact they don't even think about. They just ARE.

People who DO brag about how great they are really aren't. Because greatness, class, being a real man etc, is understood, no need to brag about it to a bunch of internet strangers.

The braggart at one point in his life has come to realize just what he lacks and was not born with and thus becomes resentful and also lacks to ability to be happy with himself. The common and classic traits are bragging as a way to fill in what is missing and treating others with little or no respect, especially women as that is who he blames for his shortcomings. Our friend has already demonstrated that tenfold.

Inferiority complex? Low self esteem? A need for approval? Yes, yes, and probably yes.

Runnies, is my approval really that valuable to you? I am so flattered. I pat you on the head and hang your drawing on the fridge, whatta good boy!

Does it bother you that you had to weasel your way into the club instead of being born a great ladies man? Are you really a member or are you faking it a little?

Obviously you are leaving us as why would such a great man need to part of the monger community?

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1113164]I'm tired of trying to educate you people. Final post to follow. About educating you[/QUOTE]I for one could all use some education to get to your level, oh swami, can you write a book perhaps?

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1113164]Most of my girls don't want to go to lleras because they think people will think she is a prepago because I'm white and blue.[/QUOTE]Runny as much fun as I had with my last post (bronchitis almost all the way gone) in all seriousness I have had two occasions where the girl did not want to go to Lleras.

There are 3 main reasons not including the estrato 2 girl who has been there and feels out of place because of who she is and how she dresses; of course an afluent foreigner like yourself who speaks perfect spanish would never be able to tolerate the gutter talk of a barrio girl so I exclude that:

1.) she is protecting her rep with someone other than you. Ie: other men she does not want to be seen by and have to confront at a later time. Uncomfortable for her.

2.) she is protecting her rep with you. She is known gringo trash and does not want you to find out. Use your imagination. Uncomfortable for her.

3.) she is embarrsased to be seen with you because you are not her type, much older or she is way out of your league. Nuff said.

All 3 are bad my friend. Good looking, young, blond hair blue eyes, speak perfect Spanish? What decent girl would not want to parade around with you in the Beverly Hills of Medellin?

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1113167]Please my friend, I hate the your mistake.

Thanks[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Runner Up;1113203]Hahah I just had sishi with her Friday night[/QUOTE]Ditto my friend, I hate the 'sishi' mistake :)

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1112286]... She probably hates me now and in hind site she was probably the best girl I met the entire trip. Enemy #1.

... I never called her a gain. Enemy #2.

... Never called her but took a couple of calls from her. Enemy#3.

... I just got a nasty email from her today telling me that she is different and can't be treated like this and never to call her again. Enemy #4. [/QUOTE]Now I have to admit, all that hating and enemy making is pretty admirable stuff. :)

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1113172]... I put lots of smiles on the faces of everyone I encounter when out of the USA ...[/QUOTE]You mean right up until they hate ya and become another 'enemy' as you put it, right?

BTW, you're not self-absorbed or anything are ya?

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1113413]Here is my situation. [B]I come here for valuable travel advice [/B]and normally get it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Runner Up;1113413]Enough said and I promise [B][I]I'll be nicer from here on out [/I][/B]because[B] I do plan on traveling a lot this year and need the information[/B]. Bye[/QUOTE]That's funny. I can't find any posts where you asked for [I]"travel advice"[/I]. If you are not posting here and only reading than you don't have to [I]"be nicer from here on out ". [/I]The phrase "fulla shit" comes to mind.

Here is my situation: I come here for valuable horse racing advice and for home improvement tips and normally get it.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1113413]My experiences are with non pros. A lot of times I get people challenging the truth of my posts because a lot of you people here think all women are prepagos when in reality it is about. 0001 of the population! .[/QUOTE]Although you are on the right track, that not all women are pros, your figure is pretty exaggerated. Be that as it may let me inform you that women who do not sell themselves and have some semblance of dignity, class and self respect would not be caught dead with a foreigner who is just passing through. Even the foreigner passing through every 3 months (on bizness no doubt you international executive you!).

Sorry to break the news but therein lies the catch 22. Spelling it out: If the girl is quality and not prepago and she is with you (travelling through every coupla months) immediately her high level of worth goes right down the toilet. Also women with self respect are not jumping into bed on one or two dates with the travelling saleman from Skokie.

Most under 30, single no children estrato 3 or 4 women who are not prepagos who have regular office jobs and half their shit together aren't really into the weekend romance with foreigners. You, like myself, being in touch with women all over the globe should know that is the case.

Did I mention before somewhere that the phrase "fulla shit" somes to mind?

Also for the same reason you list as to why US women and Colombian women are not all that different (to which I whole heartedly concur) there exists the same thing with Col men vs US men. There are tons of good Colombian pickens for Colombian women and tons of losers. Just like the US. There is no need for her to settle.

Why would that awesome Colombiana waste her time with some foreigner who is just passing through? With some foreigner who can't find a good airfare deal without going to a sex forum? A guy who already stays in six different places when in Colombia who is in need of more hotel information or [I]"travel advice"[/I]? A self proclaimed millionaire? Looking to save $100 on airfare? The phrase "fulla shit" comes to mind.

On a lighter note Spirit Air is having a promotion where people not in their club can reap the benefits without the $39 fee. Maybe you are here for weather too? There is a low pressure system coming in from the north.

See? It's good that you are here. Look at all these travel tips in Medellin Sex Reports! You are sooo right Mr Millionaire!

Or maybe you are here to pump yourself up because of your short comings and low self image? Obviously that is what it is as what type of millionaire continues to come here for travel advice? Maybe you're are just fulla shit?

Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1113252]If you've ever had stray dogs or cats hanging around your place you know not to feed them because everytime you open your front door there they are expecting to be fed again.

It's the same thing with trolls. Don't feed the trolls. Else they won't go away. [/QUOTE]Please, attention is addicting. The troll choses to engage negatively in order to get attention. Don't reward this type of behavior. Response just encourages it. Don't feed the troll.

[quote=tar heel bred; 1113540]sup fellas. i'm going to colombia for 2 weeks in march. i'm going to be hitting all the major spots. medellin, bogota, cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and cartagena.

i'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but i need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

i'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like the balcony in brazil and the del rey in costa rica where i can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

can someone give me some spots to hit? [/quote]go to the "medellin list" thread. when you find the "medellin list" in that forum look under the section of that list that says "clubs / discos / non pro." there are also list threads for cali and bogota as well.

godspeed

Has anyone tried Coca Sek? I was reading about this drink made with coca leaves. Whats it like? Can you buy it anywhere in Colombia?

Hi All,

Wanted to ask any Canadian who have gone to MDE what airlines they used. I am in the process of doing the reaserch but wanted to know what others had used. I have seen AA and Air Canada that have flights but if anyone else has other recomendations please PM me. Debating about MDE or Brazil so any info on flights would help

Thanks.

Kozak

Hey Bud, this runner up guy is a total piece of crap! Hopefully he will travel to an area with a beautiful beach and ocean and walk down to the ocean and just keep walking till its over his head and put himself out of his misery. He is a total dickhead!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1113408]Why do you and so many mongers feel the need to prove that they are not really mongers or have graduated to suddenly being real men who don't pay for sex anymore?

Never in his life has Donald Trump bragged about having money.

Brad Pitt never had to tell his friends "I'm a ladies' man with game, chicks dig me"

Lady Diana never said "I have class" or "I am affluent"

Einstein never told anyone,"I'm a smart feller"

These people don't have to say it, in fact they don't even think about. They just ARE.

People who DO brag about how great they are really aren't. Because greatness, class, being a real man etc, is understood, no need to brag about it to a bunch of internet strangers.

The braggart at one point in his life has come to realize just what he lacks and was not born with and thus becomes resentful and also lacks to ability to be happy with himself. The common and classic traits are bragging as a way to fill in what is missing and treating others with little or no respect, especially women as that is who he blames for his shortcomings. Our friend has already demonstrated that tenfold.

Inferiority complex? Low self esteem? A need for approval? Yes, yes, and probably yes.

Runnies, is my approval really that valuable to you? I am so flattered. I pat you on the head and hang your drawing on the fridge, whatta good boy!

Does it bother you that you had to weasel your way into the club instead of being born a great ladies man? Are you really a member or are you faking it a little?

Obviously you are leaving us as why would such a great man need to part of the monger community?

I for one could all use some education to get to your level, oh swami, can you write a book perhaps? [/QUOTE]

That is exactly my point! I am sure these folks (LOL) would love a bite to eat but what they really want is to get a buzz or keep a buzz and since I can totally relate to that, I am cool with that! I sure is hell am not going to start trying to reform a guy down on his luck. No fucking way, I want the guy to be happy! He already has enough problems!

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1113398]I like that. Tell them to get high not go eat.

One time when I lived in a rough area I walked out of my house and a guy asked me for money to go eat. At that time we had just finished a real good dinner and had a lot of good leftovers. I tell the guy wait a minute and I will help you out. I go in my house and make a great sandwich with crisp Italian bread and I then go outside and hand it to him. He looked like I had just given him a sack of monkeys. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1113641]That is exactly my point! I am sure these folks (LOL) would love a bite to eat but what they really want is to get a buzz or keep a buzz and since I can totally relate to that, I am cool with that! I sure is hell am not going to start trying to reform a guy down on his luck. No fucking way, I want the guy to be happy! He already has enough problems![/QUOTE]Reform the guy? Nobody said grab his hand and take him to church. But if you want the guy to be happy and if your comfortable doing it that way, its all good.

This would have made for a truer story but "through the openings between the seats." as you claim, in the back rows does not allow for much of a gap to converse through a seat.

You live with that story, not really important, not that interesting. Would not be that big of a deal except you are insulting the Colombianas I care about and you are belittling those on this board with your poor writing and exaggerated tales.

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1113203]Jeeze, this guy has never spoken to anyone on a plane one seat in front of him! What a loner!

I'm done with you people. Jajaja[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1113601]Has anyone tried Coca Sek? I was reading about this drink made with coca leaves. Whats it like? Can you buy it anywhere in Colombia?[/QUOTE]A couple years ago I also read the Maxim article about this elixir but in my travels to Medellin and Cartagena I have never seen or heard tell of it. I believe the Maxim author bought it in Cali. It is as far as I know not approved nor legal to buy it in Colombia. If anyone knows different please weigh in. (BTW. Coca sek is an energy drink made with coca leaves that according to the Maxim magazine writer puts Red bull to shame!)

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1113572]With that type of travel schedule, you won't have time to hit any clubs. You'll only see the insides of airports or bus stations.

Reef. [/QUOTE]This is my actual itinerary as of now.

March 1. Medellin

March 2. Medellin.

March 3. Medellin.

March 4. Cali.

March 5. Cali.

March 6. Cali.

March 7. Bogota.

March 8. Bogota.

March 9. Bogota.

March 10. Santa Marta.

March 11. Santa Marta.

March 12. Santa Marta.

March 13. Baranquilla.

March 14. Baranquilla.

March 15. Cartagena.

March 16. Cartagena.

Ill have time to hit the clubs.

Medellin to Cali is 9 hrs

Cali to Bogota is 12 hrs.

Only long problematic bus ride is from Bogota to Santa Marta 20 some hours!

[QUOTE=Schmwrr 1;1113627]I think this is just a broke ass gringo trying to get by coming to Colombia with not a centavo in his pocket. His post does not even make sense. Look at the destinations he is going to, and the time frame he is going to be in Colombia.[/QUOTE]your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1114007]your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need. [/QUOTE]So, you're going just to get an overview. Sounds like an interesting but not the usual Yankee trip to Colombia. Please consider writing a report about your trip. Besides, nothing is written in stone. If you find a city that you don't want to leave, then don't. I'm curious. What drew you to Colombia. I take it your're not the retired type, but just starting on your professional career.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1114233]So, you're going just to get an overview. Sounds like an interesting but not the usual Yankee trip to Colombia. Please consider writing a report about your trip. Besides, nothing is written in stone. If you find a city that you don't want to leave, then don't. I'm curious. What drew you to Colombia. I take it your're not the retired type, but just starting on your professional career.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imo.

Def not the retired type. Like I said I'm 24 and have a passion for travel with a addicting taste for hot exotic women! American women do nothing for me anymore. After I get my second degree in 2 years I'm leaving the USA

I'm not going to Colombia to bang hookers. But I like to have a plan B if I find myself empty handed at the end of the night. I loved Rio. After going out to the clubs, I would go to Balcony Bar and in one week had 3 girls go back to my apartment for free and even cooked for me the nxt day! I'm hoping to have the same results in Colombia!

Ill throw down trip report upon my return.

Sounds like something that would go big in Peru or one of the cultures / countries that (legally) comsume (crew) the coca leaves.

[QUOTE=Mule69;1113973]A couple years ago I also read the Maxim article about this elixir but in my travels to Medellin and Cartagena I have never seen or heard tell of it. I believe the Maxim author bought it in Cali. It is as far as I know not approved nor legal to buy it in Colombia. If anyone knows different please weigh in. (BTW. Coca sek is an energy drink made with coca leaves that according to the Maxim magazine writer puts Red bull to shame!)[/QUOTE]

Has anyone used the online websites to find prepagos? How do they compare with the chicas at the casas. I am going to give masajistas paisas a try.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1114007]your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need. [/QUOTE]Sorry you were the recipient of some snarkyness without good cuase. It seems to be a hobby of some posters. I was in your shoes 20 years in Central America, and used working girls as back ups for when the club scene did not work out, just as you are planing. Now, I'm too lazy and 20 year old chicas are way too much work and my rate of sucess is far to low- but you get go get them.

I would say that perhaps cutting out on your longest leg would make the trip far more enjoyable. I personally like to sink into a spot for a bit longer, especially when I am working for the freebies.

One options also is getting a cheap flight from Bogata to one of the Costal towns. Really not too expensive if you buy a one way flight in country.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1114237]I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo [B]the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imo[/B][/QUOTE]Besides sexier women (in and out of the bedroom) Brazil has much better food than Colombia.

In the Colombian cities go to the hotspots at night and you will do fine. You like to dance, are young, educated and well travelled, I don't see a problem. Brazil is the best spot on the planet for Latin women. Ipanema beach, great food, awesome vibe (you won't find that vibe in Colombia, sorry).

Although Spanish is more important to Colombian women than Portuguese is to Brazilian women it's the only problem I have with Brazil. I do NOT want to learn Portuguese. Also the guys on this board are budget conscious and not reallly into the slightly higer prices for airfare and hookers that Brazil offers.

I would live in Brazil if it weren't for the USD $1100, 10 hour flight and the Portuguese language thing. Their economy is booming and crime is down.

You will have a great time in Colombia.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1114488]. Although Spanish is more important to Colombian women than Portuguese is to Brazilian women it's the only problem I have with Brazil. I do NOT want to learn Portuguese.

I would live in Brazil if it weren't for the USD $1100, 10 hour flight and the Portuguese language thing. Their economy is booming and crime is down.

You will have a great time in Colombia. [/QUOTE]I know what ya mean about Brazil!

I love the people, the girls and the culture.

Man, I did NOT want to have to learn Portuguese either, but I'll tell ya what, after deciding to learn it, it's really not that difficult a transition from Spanish, especially if your spanish grammar is already good, and it's a fun, sexy language.

I would say that speaking Portuguese is just as important to Brazillian girls as spanish is to Colombianas, unless you just hang out in the touristy areas of Brazil.

Funny, the other night I was translating for a Colombian guy in a night club in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Though similar for sure, the spanish will only get ya so far in Brazil.

It's also fun to speak Portuguese with the Colombianas, they find it fun to try and translate it to spanish, and it sounds sexy.

Happy travels.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1114237]I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imo.

Def not the retired type. Like I said I'm 24 and have a passion for travel with a addicting taste for hot exotic women! American women do nothing for me anymore. After I get my second degree in 2 years I'm leaving the USA

Ill throw down trip report upon my return. [/QUOTE]Ok, the truth come out: I hate you! I'm 64 and have a passion for traveling with addicting taste for hot exotic women, too! And, I'm richer than four feet up a bull's ass. Want to trade places? Hell, I've got shoes that are older than you are.

Seriously, your acknowledgement of the allure of South America is really refreshing reading coming from someone who is in the spring time of his life. I hope you find only the best. Because of various considerations, thankfully health is not one of them, I cannot move to Colombia, although I have recently purchased an apartment in Medellin. I've done the next best thing. I've sponsored a beautiful Piasa as a student here in the US. She is beautiful, an ass that ought to be insured, and a very serious student. The reward of seeing her grow and develop in the Spring time of her life is a great gift to me. Thank you for your contributions to this area of ISG, and we all look forward to vicariously sharing in your adventure.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1114521]I would say that speaking Portuguese is just as important to Brazillian girls as spanish is to Colombianas, [B]unless you just hang out in the touristy areas of Brazil[/B].[/QUOTE]Which is what this guy is doing. Brazillians in Rio are just so much more laid back and the women who are out and about are totally approachable. Must be the beach scene.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1114521]Man, I did NOT want to have to learn Portuguese either, but I'll tell ya what, after deciding to learn it, it's really not that difficult a transition from Spanish, especially if your spanish grammar is already good, and it's a fun, sexy language.[/QUOTE]I had a problem going to Spanish from Italian and still mix things up. Throwing Portuguese into the mix, a very Italianesque language, would kill me more and I would end up with a mix of all three. If Brazil were only 5 hours from the mainland I would give it a shot, the whole 9.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1114551]I've sponsored a beautiful Piasa as a student here in the US. She is beautiful, an ass that ought to be insured, and a very serious student. The reward of seeing her grow and develop in the Spring time of her life is a great gift to me. Thank you for your contributions to this area of ISG, and we all look forward to vicariously sharing in your adventure.

Only good energy! [/QUOTE]Legal, thanks for sharing but I hope you are ready for the end of Winnie the Pooh.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1114562]Which is what this guy is doing. Brazillians in Rio are just so much more laid back and the women who are out and about are totally approachable. Must be the beach scene.

I had a problem going to Spanish from Italian and still mix things up. Throwing Portuguese into the mix, a very Italianesque language, would kill me more and I would end up with a mix of all three. If Brazil were only 5 hours from the mainland I would give it a shot, the whole 9. [/QUOTE]Yep, I totally agree with all that.

Also, not just in the beach scene of Rio, but I find Brazillian girls from all over, generally more easily approachable than most other latin or anglo girls.

What airline offers those prices? I've been trying to figure out how to get from Medellin to the beaches (CTG) without spending two days on a bus and all I can find are flight routed through Bogota at US$260 or more.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1114545]I'd suggest you take at least one flight, pretty cheap if you book a week in advance. They'll advertise for say. 18, 000 COP (!) to 158, 000 COP for Bogota to Medellin, for example.

I booked a 38, 000 flight that route, one way, and with taxes it came to about 150, 000 COp, so say $80 USD, not bad at all.

If there was a straight, level road anywhere in Colombia the buses wouldn't be too bad. But with limited time, you won't save that much $$ by busing it, and I don't think you'll see much.

If yout ake the bus you might meet a nice single mom with 2 young kids on her lap in the seat beside you as she can't afford to buy more than 1 ticket.

BTW, I think you are doing the right thing, looking around, although it is hard to tell what a place is really like after a few days. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1114585]Hah! I knew it wouldn't take long. Eddie, you're thinking just like me but then again I'm a cynical fuck at heart.

Reef. [/QUOTE]Me too. I make Schopenhauer look cheery.

[QUOTE=Schopenhauer ; 1114585][I]"In early youth, as we contemplate our coming life, we are like children in a theatre before the curtain is raised, sitting there in high spirits and eagerly waiting for the play to begin. It is a blessing that we do not know what is really going to happen. Could we foresee it, there are times when children might seem like innocent [B]prisoners, condemned, not to death, but to life[/B], and as yet all unconscious of what their sentence means. Nevertheless, every man desires to reach old age; in other words, a state of life of which it may be said: 'It is bad to-day, and it will be worse to-morrow; and so on till the worst of all."[/I][/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

My body Mr. PO from Panama is breaking all kinds of records at My Place. He was here about a month ago and partook of the company of 24 "cuties" in 10 days. A combination of La Mayorista girls and las "casas". That`s 24 different "cuties", not sessions, because he did repeat. That would be even more. I believe the last record was 17 in a week, formerly held by my body from Brazil.

Mr. PO is back at My Place for a month, and this time his going for a 90-100 record in a month. Mr. PO is 48 yrs. Old, so we're pumping him up with all kinds of testosterone, ha, ha. I`m lucky if I have enough leche for 20 sessions a month, but then, I`m 52 and getting lazy. Too much pussy in the last 5 years, ha, ha.

Frank Casio!

You can not. I have tried booking from Avianca and Copa. The flights are cheap. Unless you buy from the US. Then the price is sometimes almost triple for the same ticket. I will be purchasing my ticket in country for that very reason. I am not sure why they apply the very obvious gringo tax.

[QUOTE=Palermo;1114622]Be interested to know if you can access the same fares from outside Colombia?[/QUOTE]I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.

The thing to do is just fly into Bogota from the US (as it was the cheapest) and then buy the tickets on the spot at the Avianca counter as soon as you land at El Dorado, to get the Colombian price. It kind of riled my ass that the "gringo tax" applied even to established institutions.

If you don't want to buy the tickets immediately at the airport, I know they have Avianca counters at many of the Exito stores.

Try these, no increase for being in the USA and booking. [url]www.satena.com[/url], [url]www.aires.aero[/url] And [url]www.easyfly.com.co[/url] These 3 airlines offer flights to many of the smaller, larger cities in Colombia. They fly out of Herrera airport in Poblado, much nore convienient that the international a / p in Rio negra.

[QUOTE=Da Kine Kid;1114728]I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.[/QUOTE]This statement is partially wrong and misleading (as some others I read about this issue).
On Avianca.com you CAN specify what country you are in.
(BTW, why this damn new forum software automatically "corrects" my text and writes "Avianca. Com"?)

It is probably true that, if you are going to use a USA credit card, then you MUST specify that your country is USA and then you are offered the higher price. I never tried this, so I do not argue or contradict this statement.

However, the same does NOT hold for all countries. I live in a European country. When I buy tickets from avianca. Com:
- I specify "Colombia" as my country.
- I make my choice and buy tickets, at the Colombian regular price.
- I pay with my "European-country" credit card.
- booking is immediately confirmed, while the e-ticket is issued a couple of days later (they need to do some thorough check on the bank network).

I add that the Avianca web site is one of the best ones. Very efficient and informative. It presents all fares and flights in a very readable table. It also allows you to contact the call center by real time CHAT. That's very convenient. The people at the call center is kind, courteous, and efficient.

My suggestion to USA customers is to check the Colombia price (set Colombia as your country on the web site) and then try to buy the ticket from the call center by telephone or chat.

PS: I know what you are thinking. I am NOT affiliated with Avianca, neither they pay me to advertise.

I have been able to buy tickets recently at Avianca. Com with a USA credit card and get COP prices if I use Colombia as my base, not USA. This is either a new policy (good) or the website is making an exception. I a platinum with Avianca but that means nothing. In the past I would but a tx in Colombia and then use it for a flight later by calling and reissuing the tx, lots of work to save but it works. Check this wbsite for airports and who flys there, then use a little spanish to book. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Airports_in_Colombia[/url]

Guys,

All the air fare and flight info should be sent via PM or on a separate topic.

Can we get back on track and talk about banging hot young chicks?

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1114894]Guys,

All the air fare and flight info should be sent via PM or on a separate topic.

Can we get back on track and talk about banging hot young chicks? [/QUOTE]I agree, but I beg everyone to promise to refrain from advertising his own premises, like those were the only places where to meet girls in Medellin. There are specific threads also for that. At least, these posts on Avianca allow people to come to MDE saving some money. That's useful!

Now, let us all promise to talk ONLY about the (hard) core topic of the thread?

[QUOTE=Da Kine Kid;1114728]I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.[/QUOTE]I know this off of the topic, 'Banging Hot Chicas' And yes, I like banging hot chicas too, but this little conversion about Avianca is a hot spot with me. Last year I wrote Avianca this email:

Hello, Ms. Cabrera:

In July your company stopped accepting USA credit cards for purchases on line in Pesos.

What you are doing is implementing a two tier pricing system. One in dollars and one in pesos. Since the dollar pricing is a lot higher, you are trying to stop foreigners from buying in pesos by prohibiting the use of international credit cards on peso purchases. It is a clear and obvious scheme to charge foreigners more for the same service.

This trick to prohibit the use of international credit cards is just another ruse to cheat or abuse us, the consumer and specifically foreigners out of a little extra $$$$

I have seen a lot of postings on various web sites about your new policy of charging foreigners more for the same flight. None of them are complementary. Until this practice is stopped, I will not be flying Avianca. There are many choices available, Spirit Air, Copa, Jet Blue and several more.

For national flights there is Aires, Aero Republica, Easy Fly, ADA and several others. By the way, Aires has no problem processing USA credit cards on line for national flights priced in Pesos.

Thank you for your time reading this and please let the people in charge of this un fair policy know.

This was their response:

We have received your comments and appreciate your loyalty to Avianca. We constantly strive to improve our services based on feedback from our customers.

As you are aware, we recently modified our policy for tickets purchased through our Internet website,

[url]www.avianca.com.[/url]

Customers must now complete purchases made over the website using a credit card issued in the same country in which they make their purchase. Therefore, the country where the customer's credit card was issued must correspond to the country that the customer selects when initially logging on to our website.

This measure was taken in response to a troubling pattern of credit card fraud involving purchases made with cards issued in countries outside of the country where the purchase originates. Avianca took this step to protect its customers and will continue to closely monitor transactions to detect and address fraud.

As you may also be aware, the fares available to customers making purchases in one country may differ from fares available to customers making purchases in other countries. This fare differential is a reflection of numerous factors, including local tariff rules, currency exchanges, and pricing strategies in response to competitive forces.

Our goal is to provide our customers with excellent service and an exclusive and distinctive experience aboard our flights. We are committed to working hard to improve our service and welcome future comments and suggestions.

Very truly yours,

Gina Lazaro.

Customer Relationship Department

[QUOTE=El Vagabundo; 1115001]This was their response:

We have received your comments and appreciate your loyalty to Avianca. We constantly strive to improve our services based on feedback from our customers.

As you are aware, we recently modified our policy for tickets purchased through our Internet website,

[url]www.avianca.com.[/url]

Customers must now complete purchases made over the website using a credit card issued in the same country in which they make their purchase. Therefore, the country where the customer's credit card was issued must correspond to the country that the customer selects when initially logging on to our website.

This measure was taken in response to a troubling pattern of credit card fraud involving purchases made with cards issued in countries outside of the country where the purchase originates. Avianca took this step to protect its customers and will continue to closely monitor transactions to detect and address fraud.

As you may also be aware, the fares available to customers making purchases in one country may differ from fares available to customers making purchases in other countries. This fare differential is a reflection of numerous factors, including local tariff rules, currency exchanges, and pricing strategies in response to competitive forces.

Our goal is to provide our customers with excellent service and an exclusive and distinctive experience aboard our flights. We are committed to working hard to improve our service and welcome future comments and suggestions.

Very truly yours,

Gina Lazaro.

Customer Relationship Department[/QUOTE]Wow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! Cocksuckers

[QUOTE=Napalm;1115170]Wow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! Cocksuckers[/QUOTE]Simple, find a Colombian person you can "trust" and have them buy the ticket for you and you pay them back. Which is what I do if I'm not in the country myself where I can walk into an Avianca store. This price gouging has been going on for a few years now.

Folks,

Sorry to repeat, but people might be scared off and not use Avianca just because of last posts. The problem reported must exist only with USA people (I do not argue). [b]All others[/b] Can happily buy Avianca tickets at Colombian prices with no hassle. I repeat:

I live in a European country. [b]I bought tickets from Avianca.com at Colombian COP price last DECEMBER 2010[/b]. This is the procedure to follow:
- I specify "Colombia" as my country.
- I make my choice and buy tickets, at the Colombian regular price.
- I pay with my "European-country" credit card.
- booking is immediately confirmed, while the e-ticket is issued a couple of days later (they need to do some thorough check on the bank network).

[QUOTE=Napalm;1115170]Wow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! Cocksuckers[/QUOTE]I still travel on Avianca all the time. They have all the routes and run pretty well. They are the best airline here in Colombia and are on par with most of the US and airlines. It is their sales and customer service end that is the problem. I have no loyalty to them as they are a bunch of gonifs. Last month I used my miles to purchase a ticket and the taxes were $30. 00 They charged my credit card 2 times. I called them and they see where they charged me twice. They said it will be 60 to 90 days to request a refund. Yeah, right. By then I am out of the period my credit card company allows me to dispute an item. I will dispute both charges as I have no way of knowing which one is the right one. I am sure my credit card company will remove both of the charges. Fuck'them. I could care less how it ends up just as long as I get my $30 back.

I just wanted to point out something I noticed about fare differences in COP and USD. This past November, I was helping a buddy research online airfares for his wife and infant child to go to Cali around the Christmas season. I tried every possible way I can think of to search for fares on the Avianca site. I did notice the USD fare was higher than the one in COP for exactly the same itinerary, but the difference was not a huge one. It seems that you can't pay for the e-ticket anymore directly in COP if you have a US credit card, but from what I've seen, the difference is almost always less than $40 and sometimes just around $10-20.

I'm not totally crazy about this, but I think it's legal. I wouldn't rule out Avianca just on this issue alone. I would say use Avianca if their flight schedule works well for you; I wouldn't call them a great airline but they're okay and have improved slightly in recent years. There's always AA of course if you don't mind connecting through MIA (I try to avoid all the bozo TSA guys & the cuban mafia there, LOL!). Spirit is okay and FLL is not as giant a hub as MIA so things tend to run a bit smoother there. Just realize it's pretty no-frills and you can get hit badly with the luggage fees if you don't plan in advance.

I have hundreds of thousands of FF miles I need to start using so it's not a major issue for me and I believe Avianca is joining Star Alliance so keep that in mind if you have FF miles in a Star-affiliated airline and the Avianca fares are pissing you off. Avianca fares tend to be pricey compared to the other airlines and while the "dollar surcharge" is annoying, it only adds a bit and is not the main source of the price difference when comparing with Spirit or AA.

Since I live in NYC and speak Spanish, I think next time I might check with local travel agencies in Astoria, Queens or certain Colombian neighborhoods out in Jersey for fare quotes. I've always wondered about these local agencies that cater to the immigrants; if anyone has tried this way, let me know if you've found a better deal through a neighborhood agency. (There's a shipping service in Queens I use that's MUCH cheaper than FedEx when I need to send something down there although it can take awhile)

Now back to your regularly scheduled monger program.

I have been on a 3 month trip through South America and it is the same problem everwhere. It is abasolutely f#cking insane and absolutely mindblowingly anoying and frustrating. Its like the airlines have done verything possible to stop anyone buying a ticket! It is absolutely f#cked.

First you have to pay the hugely inflated gringo price. Ok so once you acept this and try and buy the ticket it won't let you unless you have a credit card from that country. Its not just Columbia, its every country is the same. The only exception seems to be Taca airlines (which is why their 5:40am flight from Lima to Cuzco is always full 'because its about the only company who sells online in a normal way).

Compared to all Asian and European Airlines the Airlines of the Americas are a total farce. If the whole world ran their airlines the same way no one could get anywhere. Note that European and Asian airlines are the only airlines that evr turn a profit.

It helps to make sales if you can acually buy a what the company is selling. It is so absurd that its beyond belief. I have had to change plans and make so many diversions during this trip because I couldn't buy tickets for otherwise empty flights (in 3 months the only full or even close to full flight I have ben on was Taca from Lima to Cusco).

I do searches to include Avianca, Copa and AA to get the best price. The most convienent of the three is Copa, them AA, lastly Avianca because of the flight arrival and departure times in Colombia. All three have at times been the cheapest and all three I have amassed free trips to Colombia. As for the Avianca credit card policy, I do not see it be that much of a difference in price between booking from the different companies other than you are not paying the same taxes (which a Colombian citizen or resident will still need to pay at the airports). I have logged in on Avianca and paid with my US credit card even though the policy does not allow. The computer (at that time) did not know my card was a foreign account. Try doing it from the Colombia sight and ignore the warning but look around you might find a better price and not have to stress about revelutionizing the companies policies.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1115258]I have been on a 3 month trip through South America and it is the same problem everwhere. It is abasolutely f#cking insane and absolutely mindblowingly anoying and frustrating. Its like the airlines have done verything possible to stop anyone buying a ticket! It is absolutely f#cked.[/QUOTE]Not sure if things have changed in recent years due to credit card fraud but a friend of mine who traveled throughout Colombia for several months had no problem flying around inside the country and even changing his ticket without any special fees or hassles. He always just went up to the counter at the airport and asked what was available. At least for regional flights WITHIN Colombia, I believe this is still the best way to go unless you are tied to a specific schedule and need to be absolutely sure you will be on a specific flight.

I can't speak though for other countries and international flights will obviously be more complicated. The Lima-Cuzco leg is an obvious exception because of the Machu Picchu tourism.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1115186]Simple, find a Colombian person you can "trust..."[/QUOTE]Yeah, right."Simply" find one. Coudln't help laughing. Still looking for a Colombian I can trust.

Enjoy the life!

PaisaLover.

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[QUOTE=Paisalover; 1115283]Yeah, right."Simply" find one. Coudln't help laughing. Still looking for a Colombian I can trust.

Enjoy the life!

PaisaLover.

[url=http://www.girlfriend4aweek.com]Colombian Girlfriends without the Strings Attached[/url][/QUOTE]Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.

I think "presta me" does not mean "lend me" in effect in latin world as our "you have a second?" does not really mean just a second.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1115318]Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1115318]Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.[/QUOTE]Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.

[QUOTE=Littletruths;1115412]Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.[/QUOTE]I don't borrow and I don't lend. I espesially don't lend.

When your broke, your a joke.

[QUOTE=Littletruths;1115412]Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.[/QUOTE]Sure you can lump every kind of person and citizenship in here to an extent, but this is the Colombian forum isn't it? I speak from in depth experience.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1115186]Simple, find a Colombian person you can "trust" and have them buy the ticket for you and you pay them back. Which is what I do if I'm not in the country myself where I can walk into an Avianca store. This price gouging has been going on for a few years now.[/QUOTE]This is what I do also. The problem is most people don't have someone in Colombia that they can trust.

[QUOTE=Justafool;1115261]I do searches to include Avianca, Copa and AA to get the best price. The most convienent of the three is Copa, them AA, lastly Avianca because of the flight arrival and departure times in Colombia. All three have at times been the cheapest and all three I have amassed free trips to Colombia. As for the Avianca credit card policy, I do not see it be that much of a difference in price between booking from the different companies other than you are not paying the same taxes (which a Colombian citizen or resident will still need to pay at the airports). I have logged in on Avianca and paid with my US credit card even though the policy does not allow. The computer (at that time) did not know my card was a foreign account. Try doing it from the Colombia sight and ignore the warning but look around you might find a better price and not have to stress about revelutionizing the companies policies.[/QUOTE]I also found that you can get really cheap rates on Avianca if you wait till the last minute (I. E. Week before) to buy a ticket online. Now, I don't know if it was because I was in country and purchasing from a Colombian IP address in COP, but, the roundtrip between Bogota (where I was) and Medellin was right around $100 USD. This was the case when I made my first trip to Medellin (from Bogota) at the last minute after hearing all the wonderful things about "Medallo"! Just my. 02cents.

Rodeo

AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA ([url]www.vayama.com[/url]). There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

Bandy

Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given.

Hey Bandy, See you in may. I am one of the guys who was there last year when you were there. I just tried AA from Detroit and they want $388. 00. One way. Then get to add on Med to Miami plus add Miami to Det. If you book round trip they want 262 each way. Last year was 149. 00 each way on a round trip. With taxes was low 300. 00 for Miami to Med. All this to say about 150. 00 more this year.

Kind of got you by the balls, don't they. PM me if you want to know who I am.

It gives me an hour to grab and go on booze and perfume. I do not recommend the buying electornics at the airport duty free. In Target, I paid $180 with tax for a DSD XL anniversary addition, one that the duty free in Panama was selling for $225.

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1115907]AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA (

[url]www.vayama.com[/url]

). There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

Bandy[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12; 1115913]Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given.[/QUOTE]Try using Kayak, I have been doing that, all flights will be through the US. Air canada flies direct Toronto to Bogotá 3 times a week, the flight is expensive, but with aeroplan miles has been the best deal for me to get there. Then I book Avianca separate. It is the only Direct flight from canada to Colombia. A few charters do have seasonal flights to Cartagena and San andres

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12; 1115913]Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given. [/QUOTE]Check out seasonal Air Transat to CTG or Spiritair from Plattsburg (PBG).

I found this advert on CL posting a few days ago under Colombia Vacation Rentals. Negative to say the least, any board members wish to comment?

Hi.

Yes it is true.

You now can choose from 6. Yes SIX. Vacant dusty apartments.

They all have the newest most modern electronics and furniture.

And that stuff is expensive down there.

The idea was to have some great places available for rent but it.

Seems every gringo and his dog had the same idea, so now there.

About a dozen of us gringos with about a dozen apartments each and we.

Are all trying to rent to the hapless gringo tourist who still.

Thinks that Medellin is still a cool place to hang out.

A few years ago it was but not anymore. Medellin is yesterday's flavor.

Maybe while Uribe was president, it was a real cool place but now.

That he is gone it has gotten just downright dangerous again.

Gringos being accosted and robbed on the streets and while casually strolling in parks.

Screwed with at every opportunity.

You don't think there is a huge police presence because it is safe do you?

You should hear some of the stories I could tell you about the apartment renovations.

Oh why did I ever get involved?

When I first visited Medellin I was a pretty wealthy guy with a net worth of almost two million dollars.

I spent a good chunk of that buying the apartments and now the expenses are eating me alive.

All I used to do was spend my time there with all my pretty girlfriends and it was nice.

Then I decided to get involved. Bought apartments.

Tried to start renting apartments to what are.

Essentially poor gringos who are trying to save 2 bucks a night.

What a pain in the butt.

Not to mention the monthly nut on the apartments is almost 3000 us dollars.

So anyway now I have 6 dusty vacant apartments in Medellin waiting.

For renters and I am sitting here in snowy New York freezing my butt off.

How did this happen?

Anyone want to rent (or buy) 6 vacant dusty apartments in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1115907]AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA

[url]www.vayama.com[/url]

There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

Bandy[/QUOTE]Airfare has been getting crazy! Best deal around is Spirit. Around $220 from LGA (without baggage). Even at $260 it's still a steal. I plan to travel super light and save on baggage too.

[QUOTE=Tomasb; 1116060]I found this advert on CL posting a few days ago under Colombia Vacation Rentals. Negative to say the least, any board members wish to comment?

Hi.

Yes it is true.

You now can choose from 6. Yes SIX. Vacant dusty apartments.

They all have the newest most modern electronics and furniture.

And that stuff is expensive down there.

The idea was to have some great places available for rent but it.

Seems every gringo and his dog had the same idea, so now there.

About a dozen of us gringos with about a dozen apartments each and we.

Are all trying to rent to the hapless gringo tourist who still.

Thinks that Medellin is still a cool place to hang out.

A few years ago it was but not anymore. Medellin is yesterday's flavor.

Maybe while Uribe was president, it was a real cool place but now.

That he is gone it has gotten just downright dangerous again.

Gringos being accosted and robbed on the streets and while casually strolling in parks.

Screwed with at every opportunity.

You don't think there is a huge police presence because it is safe do you?

You should hear some of the stories I could tell you about the apartment renovations.

Oh why did I ever get involved?

When I first visited Medellin I was a pretty wealthy guy with a net worth of almost two million dollars.

I spent a good chunk of that buying the apartments and now the expenses are eating me alive.

All I used to do was spend my time there with all my pretty girlfriends and it was nice.

Then I decided to get involved. Bought apartments.

Tried to start renting apartments to what are.

Essentially poor gringos who are trying to save 2 bucks a night.

What a pain in the butt.

Not to mention the monthly nut on the apartments is almost 3000 us dollars.

So anyway now I have 6 dusty vacant apartments in Medellin waiting.

For renters and I am sitting here in snowy New York freezing my butt off.

How did this happen?

Anyone want to rent (or buy) 6 vacant dusty apartments in Medellin? [/QUOTE]Saw that to and sent an email to him, never heard back. Who is this person?

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1116254]It's pretty obvious the guy has an axe to grind, he doen't like the gringos in Medellin. There are lots of these types around, mainly pissed off colombians, but some strange gringos too who want Medellin all to themselves IMO.

I am renting a nice little apt in el poblado, it was not easy to find. So please show me where all the empty apts are.

As for being safe, you must be kidding. Hanging around el poblado is like hanging around beverly Hills. If anything I would say it's boring it's so tranquil.

The only thing I agree with is Medellin is yesterday's news. There are so many gringos here it isn't funny. No wonder this guy is trying to scare some off. I was at a cafe a few days ago and all 8 tables were full of gringos. Not a colombian in sight.

I think this guy should just tell the truth, the reason not to come to Medellin is that gringos now outnumber prepagos (and besides that, not a helluva lot to do here)

I'm enjoying my time here, the girls are pretty and lots walking around. So far I have had much better luck getting dates with non pros than with prepagos, which tells you something.

But after a week, the inital euphoria has worn off, and I'm looking forward to the next stop, which will be outside of Colombia 'cause I think it's done here, at least for me, as I am 50, and competition here is way too fierce for my lazy ass. [/QUOTE]Thats a pretty honest assessment, But not only American and Brit gringos but others like Dutch, German, Belgium, Backpackers. Every single kind of debauchees gringo from every country can now be found in Medellin. Mainly in the south though. From lleras on down to Sabaneta. Thats why people are learning to go to other areas and keep their mouths SHUT. Not only in other parts of Medellin but other parts of Colombia.

Keeping Medellin for themselves? That's laughable, Medellin has been on its way down for the past 3 years now.

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12; 1115913]Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given. [/QUOTE]Ouzo,

The best way to do it is to connect through Miami or Orlando. You need to book 2 separate flights. One from Montreal to Miami and the other from Miami to Medellin. Give yourself lots of time to connect in Miami as the flights from South America are often delayed. Let me know if you need any further info.

Devo

[QUOTE=Devoman; 1116310]Ouzo,

The best way to do it is to connect through Miami or Orlando. You need to book 2 separate flights. One from Montreal to Miami and the other from Miami to Medellin. Give yourself lots of time to connect in Miami as the flights from South America are often delayed. Let me know if you need any further info.

Devo[/QUOTE]I know a lot of folks break the rules but if you want to talk about airfare / flights, getting around and all around general info on Colombia. It's very helpful information but it should be here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info[/url]

Thank you

How about trying Montreal. NYC. Medellin?

I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours.

[QUOTE=Beersterry; 1116623]How about trying Montreal. NYC. Medellin?

I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours. [/QUOTE]For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The [B]Dali Lama himself[/B], flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said [I]"Gunga Galunga". [/I]. That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

[I]"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". [/I]Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"[I]Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time"[/I].

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, [I]"I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"[/I]

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says [I]"The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."[/I]

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1116271]No one who has apts for sale or rent is going to post in Craigslist that it's really hard to do. Pretty easy to see through this guy.

Probably the same guy who posts on CL that DAS is watching you! Hahaha what a joke.

Might be another reason to avoid Medellin though, I can tell gringos have a bad rep here, and it's not going to get any better.

And yeah, tons of europeans here as well. I have phone numbers of maybe 15 prepagos, most of them well known, and to find one available on a Monday night I had to call 10. Admittedly it was last minute, but everyone is calling all the same girls. So far my 2 episodes with the well known girls have been very disappointing. I'll try one more before sticking to the 2 non pros I have found, that have much better attitudes, and even though they are over 30, look as good as the 20 year olds. [/QUOTE]There are reputable renters on craigslist. To say that their apartments are vacant is bullshit. There are plenty of agencies that can help you rent. Heck, you can post here and charge less than what the standard rate is. And you will get guys banging down your door. Even a discount rate is better than a vacant apartment!

Seeing the same prepagos is lame. They overcharge because they know you are gringo. You want some real fun? Start your own network. Go to casas. Take them out. Meet their friends. Meet their friends friends. You'll soon have your own private network.

Once again LuckyEddie, you got me LMFAO with tears.

Thanks for that post!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1116679]Once again LuckyEddie, you got me LMFAO with tears.

Thanks for that post! [/QUOTE]Thanks Ricker. I wish I could edit it because I have funnier stuff to add but too late.

I actually changed my mind and think all this talk about Medellin and women and sex and picking up the ladies really needs to take a back seat so we can get some real Medellin Reports: Airlines-How to get from point A to point B.

I mean if people can't get to the airport or get tickets how the hell are they going to enjoy the International Sex Guide? Let's not put the cart before the horse I always say.

I just hope Jackson doesn't come on here and move all of these airline posts over to Expedia or Orbitz, you know what a stick in the mud that guy is.

[QUOTE=Beersterry;1116623]I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours.[/QUOTE]Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

Rodeo

"Dalai" Lama please.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1116645]For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The [B]Dali Lama himself[/B], flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said [I]"Gunga Galunga". [/I]. That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

[I]"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". [/I]Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"[I]Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time"[/I].

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, [I]"I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"[/I]

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says [I]"The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."[/I][/QUOTE]

Rodeo, never would have known that (seriously!). I have been stuck in the Miami airport but never more than.

3 hrs. Sounds like an idea if you are stuck there for more than 5, I'd have to look into that someday

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112; 1116744]Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]I understand there is also some senatorial foot tapping in the bathroom stalls but I'm not really into that

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1116645]For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The [B]Dali Lama himself[/B], flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said [I]"Gunga Galunga". [/I]. That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

[I]"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". [/I]Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"[I]Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time"[/I].

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, [I]"I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"[/I]

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says [I]"The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."[/I][/QUOTE]Hey Luckie,

It seems you are a little "Unluckie" when it comes to travel agents. Better inform the Dali, that flight 443 on Feb. 12 leaves out of Atlanta at 4:55 pm, and arrives in Bogota at 9:42 pm. Which means of course you will miss your Avianca flight to MDE, and will have to spend the night in Bogota and catch a flight to MDE the next day. Bummer.

In the first place this should be in the apts thread. But anyway, I don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in Medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. But the most prominent investor-renter is Bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. He has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or ROI, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. This 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. The goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. But, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. But I get the impression our friend Bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. I hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. Also, at such time as I retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. As for despondent investors, in the first place I don't believe it, in the second Barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.

that was a hoax, i contacted the poster to buy all or lease, never returned the email. that cl post was put there to scare off foreign investors. i think someone was taking a shot at me, funny he mentions the same apartment number he owns, i own that number. he says in ny freezing, i am in ny freezing. my new problem at soto, i'll go long term, short term or i'll sell them for a profit through first american. it's that simple. meanwhile good colombian real-estate continues to rise. if it goes sideways or down, i'm 42, who knows what will be in 15-20 years. chess thanks man for the kind words. me and ruben actually care about our clients, that's our secret our niche, i also can decorate the crap out of apartment, and yes i have some deep pockets, it wasn't handed to me i carved it out myself. go go gold & silver, still plenty of room to run on silver. never say i didn't give a tip. now soto verde says i can't have any women enter my apartments, gearing up for a lawsuit and half.

barry.

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]in the first place this should be in the apts thread. but anyway, i don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. but the most prominent investor-renter is bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. he has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or roi, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. but, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. but i get the impression our friend bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. i hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. also, at such time as i retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. as for despondent investors, in the first place i don't believe it, in the second barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.[/quote]

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors.[/quote]the law (becoming popular in cities around the world) is actually as a result of the lobbying of the hotel companies and has nothing to do with the small number of mongers around. they recently implemented this in nyc (where i was from) and it has been bandied about here in lima.

many mongers will stay for a month or more so it does not affect them. the "real tourists" are just passing thru for a few days and are opting for apartments rather than putting up the family in a hotel. the hotels are well aware of cl and other venues and are acting in there own self interest. if there were any major players in mde they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard!

[QUOTE=Lima Busy;1117288]If there were any major players in MDE they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard![/QUOTE]Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1117230]Hey Luckie,

It seems you are a little "Unluckie" when it comes to travel agents. Better inform the Dali, that flight 443 on Feb. 12 leaves out of Atlanta at 4:55 pm, and arrives in Bogota at 9:42 pm. Which means of course you will miss your Avianca flight to MDE, and will have to spend the night in Bogota and catch a flight to MDE the next day. Bummer. [/QUOTE]I may be unlucky but I can research and book a flight without asking 20 different people "What should I do?", hold my own dick when I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] [B]but [/B]I obviously I have been duped by a Dali Lama impersonator. Oh well looks like I will be stuck in some airport somewhere between Montreal and Medellin. If only I had asked more people to show me how this airport thing functions. Thanks Nino you saved me a heap of trouble.

[quote=chesrep001;1117276]in the first place this should be in the apts thread.[/quote]no! we should keep all of the apartment and rentals and 'air travel 101' here instead of in the threads where they belong. this way when some newbie stops by and says[i],"i rtff but for the last 40 pages there was nothing but crap" [/i]he will be justified.

if i am jackson i blow all this shit out and give us all warnings. especially me!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1117290]Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.[/QUOTE]There is such a group that I donate to that fights the hotel and tourism lobby, Actuiva or something close to that. Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government. Our appeal has been delayed. As far as getting on apartment condo boards. That's not going to happen there snooty people running these boards, having a foreigner even at the meeting is a no no. At my building even when I'm in town they have the meetings and don't inform me. They don't want me and my lawyers there. So how you running for the board? Own the entire building you say? Wow what a great Idea, That's to much freaking money. When buying different apartments you have the ability to own all different kinds of places, that appeal to all kinds of different people. It will work itself out or it won't and I'll put these two up for sale and buy into a more friendly building. This is just my two cents. I claim to be no expert on Colombia anything. I'm just happy to have a place to go to besides NY, and Lima.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;1117293]Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government....[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bbrocs;1117293]...buy into a more friendly building.[/QUOTE]So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1117294]So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....[/QUOTE]Of course, but what should be stated that renting over 30 days is entirely legal. Giving someone a written lease for a month and having them stay 15 days and then giving the admin a letter they broke there lease and putting no one else in for the rest of the month is grey area legal. A lot of us did not know this would happen, I bought pre May 1, 2010 and at that time everything was legal. My buddy Rich Haus said to me and lives in Bello, might be the only gringo living there, said nothing is worse then a wealthy Colombian. He was half kidding but the poblado older crowd with some money have such a feeling of entitlement. Makes US snobs look liberal. Lets get back to stories now about pussy please. Enough wallstreet journal.

I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket!

She said she was coming over at 11am on Friday, the 31st, and lo and behold she arrived. We spent some time on the veranda talking. She has blond hair, a musical voice. We ventured to the bedroom. She has a great ass, beautiful face. I worshipped this 19 year old by licking most of her body, the most interesting parts with great gusto. Lately I have taken to using polyurethane condoms with olive oil. So I rubbed her soft skin with olive oil, which she likes, and then nailed her with her lying on her stomach, watching those nalgas respond to my vigorous phuck. A timely and gratifying nut.

Later another called, saying she wanted to come over around 6, it's unusual for them to venture out on the 31st. But she arrived. 18 years old, has a 2 year old, tall, brownish-blond hair, green eyes, nice tits. We talk for a while, then into the bedroom. She has some new fancy ropa interior, which I ask her to remove. Then I ask her to blow me, which she gave to understand is somewhat of an imposition, which just makes it sexier, the image is engraved in my mind. Then I nail her missionary style, she is responsive to a good phuck. Again, a timely wonderful nut.

A twofer is quite special for me. If I ever get caught in Groundhog Day, I hope it's Dec 31, 2010.

We ventured out on the 29th of December, a Wednesday. First to La Mayorista, not my personal favorite. I also want to say that I am very much against drugs. Don't do them! Somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (If I ever find those guys!). There was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. I just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. I didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so I took to calling out Feliz Quinceañera at the little ones. We kept moving, strange sights. We made our way to Fase II, three of us, we had a good time, I met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, I saw her later in another context and I really like her. Maybe I can be one of her Johns. But she was and is extraordinary.

Fase II closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or I left them. The drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but I was having fun. I just wasn't ready for bed.

So I caught a taxi, which dropped me off at Parque Lleras. There is not much happening at Lleras a 4 am, so I sat myself down in the middle. I had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature I-pod.

My memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

I found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). The dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which I furnished. He would leave and return and we continued to festejar. And we talked. It's hard for me to believe, literally, but I understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against Itaguí and Bello. I asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

I lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally I changed the music for him. He was content.

They mentioned the police occasionally, but I never turned around, never paid attention.

We partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. The sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. There seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

As the sun came up they had to leave. The dude on my right gave me back my ipod, The dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which I gave to them.

They left and I was alone. I didn't know where I was, and I sat there for a while just wondering about many things. After who knows how long I stood up, and began to walk. I found a street I knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

Two nights later, my last night in Medallo, I was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and I ate at the Lebanese place in Lleras. A chiclet seller appeared in front of me and I tossed him a coin. He tossed me a little chiclet packet, I said thanks. Later, after I had walked around taking photos, I was walking back through the same area, and I heard someone call my name, the way Hispanics say my name. I couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then I saw the chiclet seller. He was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and I wished him a happy new year. I didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me I think I know them so well.

We had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

The fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. And I think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

I will never forget that night, to the extent that I can remember it.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1117049]I understand there is also some senatorial foot tapping in the bathroom stalls but I'm not really into that[/QUOTE]Tweedle. Very funny dude. Not sure if everyone got the joke but I appreciated it.

i enjoyed this!

[quote=chesrep001; 1117333]we ventured out on the 29th of december, a wednesday. first to la mayorista, not my personal favorite. i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!). there was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. i just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. i didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so i took to calling out feliz quinceañera at the little ones. we kept moving, strange sights. we made our way to fase ii, three of us, we had a good time, i met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, i saw her later in another context and i really like her. maybe i can be one of her johns. but she was and is extraordinary.

fase ii closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or i left them. the drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but i was having fun. i just wasn't ready for bed.

so i caught a taxi, which dropped me off at parque lleras. there is not much happening at lleras a 4 am, so i sat myself down in the middle. i had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature i-pod.

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

i found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). the dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which i furnished. he would leave and return and we continued to festejar. and we talked. it's hard for me to believe, literally, but i understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against itaguí and bello. i asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

i lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally i changed the music for him. he was content.

they mentioned the police occasionally, but i never turned around, never paid attention.

we partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. the sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. there seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

as the sun came up they had to leave. the dude on my right gave me back my ipod, the dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which i gave to them.

they left and i was alone. i didn't know where i was, and i sat there for a while just wondering about many things. after who knows how long i stood up, and began to walk. i found a street i knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

two nights later, my last night in medallo, i was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and i ate at the lebanese place in lleras. a chiclet seller appeared in front of me and i tossed him a coin. he tossed me a little chiclet packet, i said thanks. later, after i had walked around taking photos, i was walking back through the same area, and i heard someone call my name, the way hispanics say my name. i couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then i saw the chiclet seller. he was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and i wished him a happy new year. i didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me i think i know them so well.

we had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

the fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. and i think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1117315]I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket![/QUOTE]Ouzo,

You have nothing to apologize about and certainly not to anyone here except maybe Jackson. Many long time members post in the wrong section so no one here is perfect. As far as your original question I have been around this game for a few years and still find great info about flights and travel search engines from other members.

I was a newbie once and like to give back like those who helped me. If you have any questions feel free to post and don't worry about pleasing anyone else.

Devo

[quote=chesrep001;1117333]my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.[/quote]urban literature. bukowski-like. weird and nice report at the same time. kudos.

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1117315]I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket![/QUOTE]I post crap all the time, I never blow a gasket. No sweat bro. If you need pointers on how to pack your suitcase post an inventory of the items and the dimensions of the suitcase, maybe post a photos of everything and we'll try to guess the weight and advise on baggage fees. Hey only trying to give back to the community. I keep forgetting not everone is over 25 and has seen an airport.

OK, so I am a sarcastic bastard, don't take me seriously, no one else does.

My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?

[QUOTE=Mountain Guy; 1117407]My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?[/QUOTE]Stay in Medellin

[QUOTE=Mountain Guy; 1117407]My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?[/QUOTE]Cartagena has excellent mongering, I can't speak of Santa Marta as I haven't been. Cartagena CAN be expensive if you let it be, do your homework and it isn't much more than many other places, a bargain basement mongers location it is not but it can be reasonable if you know what you are doing. Some of the hottest girls in the country "work" in Cartagena.

I would definitely check out Cartagena, I think its good for getting women. As far as expensive, I don't know how it compares to Medellin. I usually estimate 4 to 500. US per day. That includes money for the room and all other expenses, other then airfare. But I am a big drinker and party like a mad man in Cartagena. I am heading down there the 15th of February and hope to spend a couple days in Santa Marta, if I find the right girl to take with me.

[QUOTE=Mountain Guy; 1117407]My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days? [/QUOTE]

Cartagena is definitely worth checking out. The old city is beautiful and there is tons of mongering available. However, you should know ahead of time that the beach is not very nice.

[quote=chesrep001; 1117333]we ventured out on the 29th of december, a wednesday. first to la mayorista, not my personal favorite. i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!). there was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. i just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. i didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so i took to calling out feliz quinceañera at the little ones. we kept moving, strange sights. we made our way to fase ii, three of us, we had a good time, i met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, i saw her later in another context and i really like her. maybe i can be one of her johns. but she was and is extraordinary.

fase ii closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or i left them. the drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but i was having fun. i just wasn't ready for bed.

so i caught a taxi, which dropped me off at parque lleras. there is not much happening at lleras a 4 am, so i sat myself down in the middle. i had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature i-pod.

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

i found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). the dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which i furnished. he would leave and return and we continued to festejar. and we talked. it's hard for me to believe, literally, but i understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against itaguí and bello. i asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

i lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally i changed the music for him. he was content.

they mentioned the police occasionally, but i never turned around, never paid attention.

we partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. the sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. there seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

as the sun came up they had to leave. the dude on my right gave me back my ipod, the dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which i gave to them.

they left and i was alone. i didn't know where i was, and i sat there for a while just wondering about many things. after who knows how long i stood up, and began to walk. i found a street i knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

two nights later, my last night in medallo, i was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and i ate at the lebanese place in lleras. a chiclet seller appeared in front of me and i tossed him a coin. he tossed me a little chiclet packet, i said thanks. later, after i had walked around taking photos, i was walking back through the same area, and i heard someone call my name, the way hispanics say my name. i couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then i saw the chiclet seller. he was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and i wished him a happy new year. i didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me i think i know them so well.

we had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

the fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. and i think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it. [/quote]nice story but walking around at 4 a. m. with an ipod and a camera anywhere in colombia is just not smart dude.

How do you find these places, without getting into foot tapping?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112; 1116744]Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1117420]Cartagena has excellent mongering, I can't speak of Santa Marta as I haven't been. Cartagena CAN be expensive if you let it be, do your homework and it isn't much more than many other places, a bargain basement mongers location it is not but it can be reasonable if you know what you are doing. Some of the hottest girls in the country "work" in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]The bottom line is Cartagena is very expensive for everything compared to any of the other major cities in Colombia. You can figure the prices of lodging, food, partying, the girls, is all double or triple what you will find in any of the other major cities in Colombia. DO NOT let anyone tell you differently, and I have been in Cartagena more times than I can even remember. I have seen many cheap asses come to Cartagena thinking they could get by on one hundred fifty to two hundred dollars a day, and be able to party on the beach during the day, and go to the bars like LDV at night, be able to entertain girls, and in a couple days they were dead ass broke, spending the rest of the days in an apartment, using the few pesos they had left for food, and taxi fare to get back to the airport.

When I am referring to the one hundred and fifty, to two hundred dollars a day, this is for food and entertainment only, lodging and transportation is additional. The only way you can get by cheaper is if you do not buy any food, drinks, during the day on the beach, or if you do not spend any money for drinks in the bars at night. Basically what I am saying is, the only way to get by under the amount of money I stated is if you buy a bottle of booze and drink only in your apartment, or if you eat at the cheapest places you can find. The girls alone want one hundred dollars. If you like to party, then be prepared to spend three to five hundred dollars a day for food, transportation, nightlife entertainment, and of course the girls. If you cannot afford that, then stay in Medellin, Cali, or Bogota, where you can have a great time for a third, or half that amount. Also, if you are thinking about going to Cartagena for the beach, you will more than likely find yourself very disappointed, as most of it has been washed out in the ocean, see the pic that was posted the other day in the Cartagena thread, and the water is dirty as dirty can be.

If you do come to Cartagena, and go to Playa Hollywood, and see a big overweight guy smoking a cigar that just might be me, even though I am working hard to slim down these days, as that was my New Years resolution, or just ask Tony if Jeff is around. The first drinks of your choice will be on me! (smile) The smilies do not seem to be working.

[QUOTE=Mountain Guy; 1117407]My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days? [/QUOTE]If the purpose of your trip is only sleeping, drinking alcool and mongering, than CTG is too expensive *just for that. You can stay in MDE and limit your walks to the route between hotel and casas.

In all other cases, missing to visit Cartagena would be a real shame. CTG is a wonderful place and the Centro itself is one of the Unesco World Heritage sites. Yes, more expensive, but my suggestions are:

- You can stay in a nice hotel of the Centro, enjoying the atmosphere and still playing at night. I spend 80-100 USD / day for a cozy hotelito, where I do not bring girls. Decent places are available for less.

- You can eat very good food for 50USD in a good restaurant in the Centro (not top notch). Spend less if you are ok with plain food.

- Plan 200k COP for a good girl. Save your money for the girls and do not drink more than 1-2 (but they cost 10k-15k, not so much).

- Avoid to spend your day drinking on Playa Hollywood. It's a waste of time and money (unless you don't want to spend your budget for a good seafood dinner in cocktails and not much more)

I would go to CTG for minimum 3 days. Read my FR on the CTG forum for details about my way of enjoying CTG.

(Just my very personal opinion, of course. Lots of people in this forum will disagree)

[quote=chesrep001; 1117333]i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!).

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it. [/quote]chesrep001-scary yet compelling story. in a past life, i played out these kinds of scenarios and somehow lived to tell about them. thanks for sharing this slightly twisted slice of life.

ciaociao

[QUOTE=Abril;1117526]How do you find these places, without getting into foot tapping?[/QUOTE]Hit up the domestic version of this site (plug in USA instead of international in the URL). The USA Sex Guide is just like this, but, while I've found limited utility in providing info on good escorts, the info on motels / hotels is pretty good. Most of those reports were about drugged out street or Craigslist girls. I got all my escorts from Backpage dot com. They are mostly Latinas-Brazilian, Colombian, Venezuelan, Argentine, Cuban and Dominican. Hourly hotels can be found on Calle Ocho (8th Street).La Fuente Motel, The Executive Hotel, the Presidente (also a location off of NW 36th Street, near the Pink Pussycat which is a tad bit closer to the airport) and the Fantasy Inn near that same Pink Pussycat strip club. For "higher end" girls, there's also Eros dot com. Good Luck!

Rodeo

Yep guys, Envigado is moving on up. There oppenning a new Citibank branch near the Park in front of LEY Supermarket. Now all they need is a few casas and some Srip Tease Bars. Keep dreaming, that will never happen in Envigado. They have to keep appearances up here.

Frank Casio!

Excellent post by Black Page. Unless you can fuck 15 hours a day, it's nice to have other interesting things to see and do. And in that regard, Cartagena has so much more to offer than Medellin. If you have 15 days in Colombia, I'd definitely try to spend a few of them in Cartagena. The Old walled city is such a uniquely beautiful place.

[quote=chesrep001; 1117318]she said she was coming over at 11am on friday, the 31st, and lo and behold she arrived. we spent some time on the veranda talking. she has blond hair, a musical voice. we ventured to the bedroom. she has a great ass, beautiful face. i worshipped this 19 year old by licking most of her body, the most interesting parts with great gusto. lately i have taken to using polyurethane condoms with olive oil. so i rubbed her soft skin with olive oil, which she likes, and then nailed her with her lying on her stomach, watching those nalgas respond to my vigorous phuck. a timely and gratifying nut.

later another called, saying she wanted to come over around 6, it's unusual for them to venture out on the 31st. but she arrived. 18 years old, has a 2 year old, tall, brownish-blond hair, green eyes, nice tits. we talk for a while, then into the bedroom. she has some new fancy ropa interior, which i ask her to remove. then i ask her to blow me, which she gave to understand is somewhat of an imposition, which just makes it sexier, the image is engraved in my mind. then i nail her missionary style, she is responsive to a good phuck. again, a timely wonderful nut.

a twofer is quite special for me. if i ever get caught in groundhog day, i hope it's dec 31, 2010. [/quote]this is what i call the perfect trip report. somedays you get exactly what you want, what you need, a gal showing up on time, what are the odds? good vibes good chemistry, it happens! so much for the reports about crime druggings, the gringos reputation in colombia, taxis that won't pick you up. i sincerely hope everyones 2011 is like chesrep001s dec 31, a pretty typical day in valley!

Trip report guys, get out of the ***** houses guys and see the country.

Medellin to Quibdo (Choco) on ADA Airlines from the local airport in Medellin. 147,000p one way "30 minutes".

Quibdo.
One night in Hotel Los Robles. 80,000p single. 129, 000p double. Calle 28 # 1. 88, Quibdo, Choco. Tel 713712.

Fast boat taxi service Quibdo 7.00am to Turbo 4.00pm on the Rio Atrato 150,000p (9 hours) stopping at small villages along the way. 150,000p.

Turbo.
2 nights at the Hotel Castillo de Oro.
Calle 100 # 14 – 07. Tel 827 2185 just up from the wharf.
Room, 80,000 pesos per night.

Fast boat tickets Turbo to Capurgana 50,000 pesos per person, leaves at 8.30am.

Capurgana.
Many hotel optioms.
I stay at Hotel Bahia Pinorroa Lodge, Calle 101 # 17. 12. Tel 827 2340 or cel 314 605 5541. 1 night 150,000 pesos (very nice hotel with 3 meals per day)

Boat taxi Capurgana to Sapzurro 6,000 pesos.

Boat taxi, Capurgana to Puerto Oblaldia in Panama. 24,000 pesos.

Exit stamp in passport, leaving Colombia in Capurgana.

Sail boat, Sapzurro to Portobello on aussie Captian Mikes "WINDSEEKER" $360,00 USD (many other boats to this leg also)
Leaving Sapzurro at first light, arriving after about 30 hours sailing to islas San Blas. 2 nights "isla Coco Banderas".
Sailing isla Coco Banderas to isla Holandes 4-5 hours. 1 night isla Holandes.
Sailing isla Holandes to isla Chichime 2 hours. 1 night isla Chichime.
Full days sailing Chichime to Portobello, last night sleeping on the boat at Portobello.

Entry stamp in passport for Panama in Portobello.

Taxi Portobello to Panama City $80.00 USD.

I have many fotos.

Aussie Greg.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1118016]Trip report guys, get out of the * houses guys and see the country.

Medellin to Quibdo (Choco) on ADA Airlines from the local airport in Medellin. 147, 000p one way "30 minutes".

Quibdo.

One night in Hotel Los Robles. 80, 000p single. 129, 000p double. Calle 28 # 1. 88, Quibdo, Choco. Tel 713712.

Fast boat taxi service Quibdo 7. 00am to Turbo 4. 00pm on the Rio Atrato 150, 000p (9 hours) stopping at small villages along the way. 150, 000p.

Turbo.

2 nights at the Hotel Castillo de Oro.

Calle 100 # 14 – 07. Tel 827 2185 just up from the wharf.

Room. 80, 000 pesos per night.

Fast boat tickets Turbo to Capurgana 50, 000 pesos per person, leaves at 8. 30am.

Capurgana.

Many hotel optioms.

I stay at Hotel Bahia Pinorroa Lodge, Calle 101 # 17. 12. Tel 827 2340 or cel 314 605 5541. 1 night 150, 000 pesos (very nice hotel with 3 meals per day)

Boat taxi Capurgana to Sapzurro 6, 000 pesos.

Boat taxi, Capurgana to Puerto Oblaldia in Panama. 24, 000 pesos.

Exit stamp in passport, leaving Colombia in Capurgana.

Sail boat, Sapzurro to Portobello on aussie Captian Mikes "WINDSEEKER" $360, 00 USD (many other boats to this leg also)

Leaving Sapzurro at first light, arriving after about 30 hours sailing to islas San Blas. 2 nights "isla Coco Banderas".

Sailing isla Coco Banderas to isla Holandes 4-5 hours. 1 night isla Holandes.

Sailing isla Holandes to isla Chichime 2 hours. 1 night isla Chichime.

Full days sailing Chichime to Portobello, last night sleeping on the boat at Portobello.

Entry stamp in passport for Panama in Portobello.

Taxi Portobello to Panama City $80. 00 USD.

I have many fotos.

Aussie Greg[/QUOTE]Wow, I would love to take that trip, you should start another tour business Aussie, I promise to be the first customer. Do you bring a "companion" for company or travel solo?

I took my girlfriend to Capurgana ¨Monica¨ she wanted to go to Panama as well but I got more girlfriends up here.

Let me know and I'll put a group together, regards.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1118089]Wow, I would love to take that trip, you should start another tour business Aussie, I promise to be the first customer. Do you bring a "companion" for company or travel solo?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for all the advice about Cartagena. I'm booking a flight there and staying for a few days. My Spanish teacher is from Colombia and suggested Santa Marta. She said the beaches are nicer, but that I should avoid Centro at night because there are lots of "prostitutas", which immediately caught my attention.

I'm not on a backpacker budget, but did not plan on spending $500 a day either (but I can if I have to). I'm staying at MM the first few days to get my bearings. If it is still fun there, I might stay longer-if they have room. I like the model types but have fun at the strip bars, casitas, and with s / w's too.

I'm more of a tourist that likes to monger. I received lots of shit from Nibu Raphael when I left the chicas in Lima to go to Machu Picchu and when I left the fine pussy in Buenos Aires to go to Patagonia for a week.

If anyone is around in early April and wants to hook up for some fun, let me know. Thanks again for your help.

Mountain Guy.

Anyone who skips Machu Picchu while in Peru needs to have their head examined. I realize this is a monger board, but that is one of the greatest wonders of the world.

I might be back in MDE in early April. I will post as it gets closer.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1118248]Mountain Guy.

Anyone who skips Machu Picchu while in Peru needs to have their head examined. I realize this is a monger board, but that is one of the greatest wonders of the world.

I might be back in MDE in early April. I will post as it gets closer.[/QUOTE]Hey let's go to China and NOT see the Great Wall, Hawaii? No beach for me! Paris? Who needs to go see some tower?

I agree MP is one of the most life affirming spots in all the world!

While I'm at it, Guys please let's leave the flight info and hotels stuff out and lets keep it dirty. I'm going to post my Bogota report in a few.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1118248]Mountain Guy.

Anyone who skips Machu Picchu while in Peru needs to have their head examined. I realize this is a monger board, but that is one of the greatest wonders of the world.

I might be back in MDE in early April. I will post as it gets closer. [/QUOTE]What are you talking about? He just said that he left the chicas in Lima to go to Machu Picchu. He is a tourist come monger, just like me.

Bandy

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1118431]What are you talking about? He just said that he left the chicas in Lima to go to Machu Picchu. He is a tourist come monger, just like me.

Bandy[/QUOTE]If you read it the other way Combo is in agreement with Mountain Guy.

I as well am a tourist come monger and would never travel to the Ramada Inn next to Newark Airport just because there is cheap pussy, sorry.

Going to Cartagena is a great thing to do and I recommend it as there is a variety in places, restuarants and prices and if you need to be on a budget and lay low one or two days there is that option as well.

There seems to be two types of audience here - very budget oriented, not into much else besides cheap pussy, when they were younger the most important part about their vacation was that the hotel had HBO as an option on the cable TV. A lot of these guys discovered cheap putas overseas are not much into anything else.

But there are guys who want to do other things besides make up for lost time and destination that include putas is the icing on the cake.

For me, going to vacation spots that have the puta option is on the same checklist as "beach" has a few "decent restuarants".

I would never go to Medellin on vacation for a week. Beach? No, Good food? No. To me it makes no sense. But I am not on a super tight budget where the only thing that matters to me is some casa ho I can get for 15 bucks. I'm not that desperate. Yet.

Cartagena is nice and for a more quiet backwater but nicer beaches Santa Marta.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1117690]If the purpose of your trip is only sleeping, drinking alcool and mongering, than CTG is too expensive *just for that. You can stay in MDE and limit your walks to the route between hotel and casas.

In all other cases, missing to visit Cartagena would be a real shame. CTG is a wonderful place and the Centro itself is one of the Unesco World Heritage sites. Yes, more expensive, but my suggestions are:

- You can stay in a nice hotel of the Centro, enjoying the atmosphere and still playing at night. I spend 80-100 USD / day for a cozy hotelito, where I do not bring girls. Decent places are available for less.

- You can eat very good food for 50USD in a good restaurant in the Centro (not top notch). Spend less if you are ok with plain food.

- Plan 200k COP for a good girl. Save your money for the girls and do not drink more than 1-2 (but they cost 10k-15k, not so much).

- Avoid to spend your day drinking on Playa Hollywood. It's a waste of time and money (unless you don't want to spend your budget for a good seafood dinner in cocktails and not much more)

I would go to CTG for minimum 3 days. Read my FR on the CTG forum for details about my way of enjoying CTG.

(Just my very personal opinion, of course. Lots of people in this forum will disagree) [/QUOTE]Really good advice. I totally agree.

I skipped it, went down the Rio Napo and Rio Amazon in stead.

Aussie Greg.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1118248]Mountain Guy.

Anyone who skips Machu Picchu while in Peru needs to have their head examined. I realize this is a monger board, but that is one of the greatest wonders of the world.

I might be back in MDE in early April. I will post as it gets closer. [/QUOTE]

OK, enough, we get it. Lots of you have visited neighboring countries and Colombian locations beyond the casas. Congratulations, hats off to you all, and we admire you. Can we get back on topic now?

Anybody familiar with the black dude that got killed today?

1. He is from California.

2. Works as a prison guard / or in the jail system.

3. Frequents MDE and Lima 4-5 times a year.

4. Stays in an apartment 791 San Martin

[QUOTE=Palermo;1118633]Anyway, that's the best time I have had in Medellin by far. I'm not one for details, but this was a true GFE. She was amazing. At no time did she mention $$, before, during or after. I slipped her a handful of bills as she left. Which she thanked me for without looking at.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sparing us from the PENTHOUSE FORUM Chatter by going through all the Kama Sutra positions, the amount of orgasms you gave her, the amount of leches (6) you had last night and how the portero had to be called on you guys from all of her moaning, like most of the guys on here. Pure chest pounding hyperbole! LOL

[QUOTE=Lima Busy; 1118604]Anybody familiar with the black dude that got killed today?

1. He is from California.

2. Works as a prison guard / or in the jail system.

3. Frequents MDE and Lima 4-5 times a year.

4. Stays in an apartment 791 San Martin[/QUOTE]I know a guy like this. He frequents CLO, MDE but I'm not sure about Lima. Regardless I have lost touch with him for more than a year. I will email him.

[QUOTE=Lima Busy; 1118604]Anybody familiar with the black dude that got killed today?

1. He is from California.

2. Works as a prison guard / or in the jail system.

3. Frequents MDE and Lima 4-5 times a year.

4. Stays in an apartment 791 San Martin[/QUOTE]Where did you read it? I read a different story here:

[url]http://www.demotix.com/news/258271/murder-miraflores-district-homicidio-en-miraflores[/url]

Some gangs settled their score in Lima this morning. The Colombian citizen Sergio Luis Alvarez Acosta was riding his bicycle when he was shot in the back of his head by another cyclist. The killer escaped in a red car that was waiting for him after abandoning the weapon at the crime scene. The victim died a few minutes later in the Good Hope clinique of Miraflores. Lima, Peru. 22/02/2010.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1118248]Mountain Guy.

Anyone who skips Machu Picchu while in Peru needs to have their head examined. I realize this is a monger board, but that is one of the greatest wonders of the world.

I might be back in MDE in early April. I will post as it gets closer. [/QUOTE]Well actually I was in Lima to have my head treated by friends of David33. And skipped Machu Picchu to undergo some of the greatest wonders of life, several times.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1118747]Where did you read it? I read a different story here:

[url]http://www.demotix.com/news/258271/murder-miraflores-district-homicidio-en-miraflores[/url]

Some gangs settled their score in Lima this morning. The Colombian citizen Sergio Luis Alvarez Acosta was riding his bicycle when he was shot in the back of his head by another cyclist. The killer escaped in a red car that was waiting for him after abandoning the weapon at the crime scene. The victim died a few minutes later in the Good Hope clinique of Miraflores. Lima, Peru. 22/02/2010. [/QUOTE]That is a very old story! I actually was walking my dog (when the dude passed me on his bike) and was shot after he turned a corner.

I saw this on the news last night and know a lot of guys who rent apartments on that block. They showed pictures of a 35-45 ish naked guy (in good shape) lying face up by the dining room table.

Nice report Polermo.

In relation to getting laid in MDE, obviously there are more than a few kinds of women to interact with.

There are many that have it in their mind that they don't want to do it but believe she has no other choice and no amount of money or charm is going to make her like you. Luckily, they are fairly easy to identify but perhaps less easy to walk away from. You just have to do it. IMO personality is the most important feature in any person. Hygene a close second. Haha. No, seriously!

In contrast, I have found that a large population, although not engaged in their ideal profession, want you to have a good time and understand what to do to make that happen. After all, it's really not that difficult to figure out. With these "types," give them a little polite conversation, a playful "prove it to me" attitude and the chemistry has a knack of kicking in big time! If you just exchange #'s without actually interacting, they already know they got you and lose their motivation. Besides! Why would you do that with sooooo many options? You may be a monger but is looking like one at all to your advantage? C'mon guys learn a few extra Spanish verbs and be amazed at how much you can make these girls laugh and how much more fun it is.

I have found this to be true of the MM girls as well as in clubs and Mayorista. Speaking of which, is Mayorista a unique spot in MDE? I thought the sit down, casual atmosphere was fantastic. I heard rumor of someplace similar with lots of bars and clubs in Sabaneta but never ventured out that way. Anybody have info on that?

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1118633]I have been having 'highly average' experiences with well known girls, so it's nice to be able to post something more positive about my experience in Medellin.

I chatted online with this girl, let's call her 'j', for 2 weeks or more before finally arranging a meeting with her at a coffee shop. Her online photo is spectacular, and odds are you have seen her photo. She's not quite so hot in person, but the photos is real and she has a rack that is second to none. She has a few extra pounds, but she looks good and is a woman, not one of the skinny kids that seem to be everywhere.

We had a great chat and I thought she was looking only for a serious relationship, but she flirted a bit and when I told her I had been with a prepago from the same website she said 'why did you do that? What's wrong with me? ' and I took that to mean she would be open to an arrangement, even though she really wanted a serious relationship.

We made plans to go out to dinner a few days later, but then I met a really great girl so I told 'j' that I had met a girl who I really liked and she wanted me to only see her, and I was going to stick with that.

'j' said: 'ok, but I won't tell anybody if you still want to go out' so then I really saw she was open to some fun. The girl I liked cancelled one date, then another, so I said fuck it and called j.

We just went out and had a nice dinner, a few drinks, during which I mentioned I had a sore neck from the crappy pillows in my apt. She offered a massage.

I asked for the check and off we went.

By the way, she was dressed 'impecable' as she told me she always is. This is not a barrio girl, but she's not a model type either, more like a down to earth girl who has a killer body. She'd probably play in the lingerie football league.

Anyway, that's the best time I have had in Medellin by far. I'm not one for details, but this was a true GFE. She was amazing. At no time did she mention $$, before, during or after. I slipped her a handful of bills as she left. Which she thanked me for without looking at.

I realize this isn't much of a report, but what I am thinking is, if any of you guys are into a real woman, not one of these young kids, I will ask j if she is interested in meeting you. She may or may not be, so no promises.

And be warned in advance, she is not an all out 'pro'. She told me she was at a mansion party once, thrown by the RL site, and she was appalled. Guys were handing her their cellphones to get her number and she was insulted.

She told me if they had had any class at all and actually talked to her first, she might have been interested.

So if you want to see her, you'll need to be a bit more discrete and gentlemanly. Otherwise, forget it, she'll walk out on you, as she told me she had done on several dates. But play your cards right and you will have a fabulous time like I just did.

PM me if interested, and I'll see what I can do. No promises. Or you may already be chatting with her online. At least I can confirm you aren't wasting your time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1118633]And be warned in advance, she is not an all out 'pro'. She told me she was at a mansion party once, thrown by the RL site, and she was appalled. Guys were handing her their cellphones to get her number and she was insulted.

She told me if they had had any class at all and actually talked to her first, she might have been interested. [/QUOTE]Two different paisa nonpros I dated last year both had the same exact reaction to their attendance at RL parties and what they saw, disgust. But both kind of accepted that many of their friends played that game. Pro or nonpro these paisas know why we come to Medellin.

Incidentally the second one is desperate for love and a father for her little boy and has now convinced herself that the Italian guy who is coming to visit her soon is her serious boyfriend. Based on her own words to me before she found that guy she knows very well the chances of a guy coming here from abroad for a period to meet her that can pass on the temptations of tapping some extra chucha on the side are small. But men and women have a great capacity for deluding themselves when it comes to sex and relationships when that is in their interest.

I love dating the non and semi pro types, regular job girls and students who just want to have fun and or need a little money to supplement poor wages or support their education. My mindset and approach with so many choices I always let them know respectfully and in fairly short order I am a playa / monger and if they don't like it move on.

In any case nice job Palermo. To me a great time and real deal GFE with a sweet non pro type can be worth easily 5 sessions with an more hard core regular working girl type.

Hello Guys,

I was supposed to be back in the US but got with the MASSIVE snow storm I got to change my flight with no fee and now I get 4 days in Medellin. I have posted 2 reports about my adventures in Bogota.

Abydos is still a GOOD value! $120K for an hour. 12 girls, a few 6's but also a few 8-9's Solid line up.

I chose Alejandra (?) AWFUL massage! AWESOME sex! Classic Paisa look, big fake boobies, fat ass, flat tummy=Rocking Body. Condom BJ. WHAT THE "F"! I can't get away from this! But solid oral skills. She's the kind of girl who turns her head and gives you that "look" when you're in doggie. Ok on top and great flat on her back, very tight and tender, lots of moaning and tit rubbing and would lock her legs around my body and would squeeze and rock with me; GOD I LOVE WHEN GIRLS DO THAT!

Here is the best part of the Report, no BBBJ but she let me blow my load all over her face! $30K tip for facial and 2 rounds. If I knew she was down I would have blasted her face twice! She RAN to the bathroom so fast I could not help but to laugh and laugh and she was all "What the heck you laughing at, but in Spanish" as I stood up to talk to her I banged my head of some bullshit low hanging light fixture. So now she had a good laugh at me. All in all a nice time. I'm going back!

[QUOTE=Palermo;1119556]Today she told me she was a bit jealous thinking about me being with her friends. Now that's probably a bit of BS, but that's ok. I enjoy the game.[/QUOTE]Or that may have been the truth and the real game was the up front offer of handing you over to her friends. Maybe that was BS just to see what your reaction would be.

Hey, who knows.

Last visit one night I got pulled over by 2 cops on a motorcycle. All 4 of us had to get out of the car, show our I'd and answer questions. They call this a safety check since they had no visible reason to pull us over. Then across the intersection. BAM! SUV hits Hyundai. Or should I say "runs over Hyundai." Police interview over and we were on our way. Just more affirmation that the streets are crazy. I liked having a driver with an SUV last time. To walk or taxi is often a tough debate. P. S. I'm trying to PM Palermo. According to the instructions in FAQs I should be able to but I don't have the option to do so. I'll be in MDE this Monday staying in Pargue Lleras.

[QUOTE=Palermo;1119553]But I did have a bit of a scare last night walking home at midnight from lleras. A guy with a machete was fighting with a cartonero, who managed to fend him off with an iron bar. The machete guy then took to following me. I turned at the first street where I knew some armed guards were and went up to wish them a nice evening. The machete guy had already turned down another street, so he probably was harmless, but think I will taxi the 6 blocks home from now on.[/QUOTE]

Interesting to hear because in the four blocks that I walk home every time I go to Lleras at night I've never seen anything like that. I saw three knife fights in Centro but only one person actually got stabbed. Went back to Sabeneta yesterday and was surprised that they were having a packed service for the boy who was run over the day before. Word travels fast because everyone I talked to knew about it.

[QUOTE=Palermo;1119553]But I did have a bit of a scare last night walking home at midnight from lleras. A guy with a machete was fighting with a cartonero, who managed to fend him off with an iron bar. The machete guy then took to following me. I turned at the first street where I knew some armed guards were and went up to wish them a nice evening. The machete guy had already turned down another street, so he probably was harmless, but think I will taxi the 6 blocks home from now on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Colombia Jake; 1119452]These streets are by far the most dangerous part of Medellin. Yesterday in Sabeneta I saw a Dump Truck clip and roll over with the back 4 tires a 10 year old kid on a bike. Very sad but very real. Yes, died on the spot! No covering the body for hours. Beware when crossing!

Jake[/QUOTE]They don't cover shit in Colombia, Saw murdered bodies in Cali, no yellow sheets. A whole family run over on a moto, no yellow sheets, and the crowds of people and onlookers is surreal. They just stand there and watch for hours.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1119789]I think all these cartonero guys have machetes, and they seem to only fight amongst themselves, thank god.

But I had to wonder, [B]why would he pick a fight with a poor guy armed with an iron bar, instead of the rich tourist with $150 in his pocket? [/B][/QUOTE]Guy with iron bar has an iron bar. Known

Another guy with a machete has a machete. Known.

You walking down the street may have a gun. Unknown.

You are safer by [B]not wielding[/B] A weapon and [B]showing your cards[/B]. The unknown is scary, anyone could be packing any type of firearm and gun anyone else down on the street and the risk of getting caught is a tiny fraction of what it is in the US, Europe etc. People get wasted all the time 3-4 a night sometimes in neighborhoods I don't wish to name.

But

The guys or sicarios that could and will snuff you in a matter of seconds will be unknown by you. You will never see him or them coming. There is not going to be 3 hour abduction where you are transported to a secluded warehouse and get tied up and talked to for hours about how you did some girl wrong and the father will be stopping by to have a talk with you or whatever revenge the dad has in mind, giving you every opportunity to be James Bond and escape. These people are busy and taking someone out is not a game in Colombia like it is in the movies. It happens in seconds and the body is left in the street.

The dirty gamines in the streets flailing their sticks or knives are no big threat if you spot them first and avoid them. They can't move all that fast, are weak and worn down (even the 20 year olds) and are too glued up to see more than 10 feet in front of them. It's the little 12 year old gamine boys that run in packs whose bodies are not totally shot yet, thems is who you got to watchout for.

[QUOTE=Palermo;1119847]As I said, I enjoy the games, up to a point. I have a history of going out with these semi pros and non pros [B]until the drama gets to be too much, then I switch to going with the pure pros for a while[/B].[/QUOTE]Sometimes it's a lot of guessing and thinking and wondering? And then jumping back to the pros, no strings attached is just so much more peaceful, no need to answer to anyone, do what you want, don't have to carry two cell phones or the one you do have doesn't need to be on silent. Jejejeje.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1119853]Sounds like we've had the same experiences jajaja. I have 2 cells. Haven't had to use both yet in Medellin, but won't be long.

Maybe you've had this experience too, I love this story.

I was seeing this crazily hot girl and I knew she was a player, but she was not a prepago, she just liked to go to all the best places and then make an excuse why she can't sleep with you. (Eventually I nailed her, and man was it worth the effort. I put in a lot of effort though).

Anyway, I guess I was her #2 or 3 boyfriend, depending who was in town at the time. So one Saturday night she said she couldn't go out, so I went to the irish pub alone.

Guess who strolls by holding hands with a tall, bald gringo? I look up and see her, she pretends not to see me, then heads straight for the exit, practically dragging the poor guy out.

[B]Now, I couldn't care less, I was happy with the arrangement we had, as I was finally having sex with her, and I still got to go out on my own sometimes, so I didn't want to fight over it, [/B]so I just acted like nothing happened.

The funny part is, next day she calls me, and starts reaming me out, 'why were you at the irish pub? Who were you waiting for? ' I could only laugh at her brazeness. Best defense is a good offense, she knew that.

So I said to her, 'who was that guy you were holding hands with? '

She tells me, and you are already going to know the answer, as it's always this answer: 'he's my cousin! '

Too funny. The guy was as white and gringo as they come.

The result was great though, as she knew I knew and vice versa, so the game playing stopped, and the sex got better and more frequent. I ended up being the guy she would call after a dinner date with some poor guy who hadn't figured her out yet. (The guy I used to be, but now I had magically worked my way up the pyramid jajaja).

More than once I'd be in bed with her, right in the middle of it when her phone would ring, as it did non stop. She'd answer and be saying to the guy; 'oh I miss you too, I can't wait to see you', while she was giving me the sneakiest smile and putting her finger to her lip to tell me to be quiet.

This seemed to really turn her on, and so sometimes she would make a call to a guy while we were at it, just for fun. She was a bad girl, and I sure wish she was still around.

She married some guy from Calgary and apparently settled down, which I find so hard to believe. But hey, you never know.

If you're in calgary and you see an incredibly hot asian looking colombiana, say Hi to her for me. [/QUOTE]That's brilliant. Hehehehe. Start getting too emotional and you blow the arrangement. After that incident in the pub you made the transition [B]to the other side[/B] With her.

I am convinced it is all in your attitude. You can't get caught up or emotional until you really know for sure and it's something you're certain you both want.

Unless you know for sure that she is not a player and unless you live near each other, there is no reason to get serious with these girls until that point. Live in another country / city? Forget it. You're probably guy #6. You will get burned or maybe you just won't find out she is doinking a list of other guys. Every time you fly out she KNOWS it could be the last time she ever sees you and even though she is only 24 she thinks she is old and does not want to waste time. She will keep you in remojo (soaking) or on the back burner we would say in english.

I got a girl who has a Caleño boyfriend and he is currently living in Cali, she says he is great and that she doesn't like paisa men and that they see each other about once a month. Her Facebook is loaded with pictures of her and this guy. I don't have to tell you what we do twice a week when he is not around.

[B]It's good to be on the other side. [/B]

I think Lucky Eddie should blow Palermo and we can move on. Palermo's tales are lauded bc they are not blow by blow penthouse stories, but actually I find more tiresome the "I conquered them mentally and now I am their master" stories. Thank you Palermo and congrats. Can we move on?

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1119962]I guess some guys like the self delusion.

All this talk about fat 50 year old guys getting lucky with "regular" girls in Medellin is a hoot. Any Colombian chica under 30 who actually is hot isn't going to look twice at a gringo unless she's in the game.

But hey, maybe she's the one in a million that isn't. Kind of a new twist on "living the dream".

Reef[/QUOTE]Reef, I agree with you it's unlikely at best. What I can't get clear in my mind is what the attraction or importance is of the so-called "non-pro." Lowest common denominator. It's pussy. Why complicate things? Is it that some guys have bought into the romance novel ideal of sweeping a girl off their feet live Fabio on horseback? What the fuck? Grow the fuck up and get real. It's only my opinion but I think staying out of the fantasy world (for example, pretending you are really paying some poor relative's medical bill or buying pampers when you hand over 50, 000 pesos) will help avoid frustration and dashed hopes. Just fuck the girls and hang out with them as long as you are enjoying it. If it's not fun anymore, be honest, say so, and move the fuck on.

I personally don't mind all the stories of free loving. However, it would enforce the stories and shed some light as to what these aged Romeos are banging if they would add a picture or two of their conquests.

At least a body shot and or block the face.

I was once speaking to a bloke who raved about his non-pro gal and when I finally met / saw her I knew why she was a non-pro, YIKES! (LOL).

My preference is working girls. No games involved. Every now and then a non-pro comes along but only long enough to re-enforce my likings for the pros.

Cheers,

Cubanut

PS. So come on and use those point and shoots.

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Is that Vivana?

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120192]I personally don't mind all the stories of free loving. However, it would enforce the stories and shed some light as to what these aged Romeos are banging if they would add a picture or two of their conquests.

At least a body shot and or block the face.

I was once speaking to a bloke who raved about his non-pro gal and when I finally met / saw her I knew why she was a non-pro, YIKES! (LOL).

My preference is working girls. No games involved. Every now and then a non-pro comes along but only long enough to re-enforce my likings for the pros.

Cheers,

Cubanut.

PS. So come on and use those point and shoots.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]145719[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Hard to believe it's been two years (this weekend) since my last "taste of So. Amer heaven", but your photos keep me in constant turmoil thinking of what I am missing. Thanks. I think! It was still the best Super Bowl party I've ever attended! The hotties just keep coming don't they!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1120222]Hard to believe it's been two years (this weekend) since my last "taste of So. Amer heaven", but your photos keep me in constant turmoil thinking of what I am missing. Thanks. I think! It was still the best Super Bowl party I've ever attended! The hotties just keep coming don't they![/QUOTE]Sky Ryder,

How are you buddy? Yes that was a great super bowl party. Was taking part in the pre-game sex show in Boyd's room when my girl showed up! Well she knew what kinda guy I am.

Pittsburg won over the Cardinals that game. I'm hoping they beat Green bay as well. Still breaks my heart that the Bears were THIS close to going to the big show. Oh well. So now I am all in for the Steelers. It's good that I was a Steelers fan years ago as a kid when I first got into football.

You really should come on down. I'll be in Medellin shortly as well as Cali. Too cold and too much damn snow here in the Midwest!

Cheers,

Cubanut

Since I took up some space here asking about flights to Cartagena, I thought I would post the results in case anyone else is thinking of making the trip.

The busses are cheap, but takes a full day (12-13 hours) each way.

Airlines:

ADA.

Aires.

Avianca.

Easy Fly.

Satena.

ADA is the only one that listed direct flights from Herrera (EOH) to Cartagena (CTG). However, the fare was more than double than flying from Jose Maria Cordoba (MDE).

Fares ranged from (USD) $161 to $475. I booked with Aires, flying out of MDE via Bogota to Cartagena, about 5 hours each way, for $176.

Hope this is helpful to someone.

[QUOTE=Mountain Guy; 1120352]Since I took up some space here asking about flights to Cartagena, I thought I would post the results in case anyone else is thinking of making the trip.

The busses are cheap, but takes a full day (12-13 hours) each way.

Airlines:

ADA.

Aires.

Avianca.

Easy Fly.

Satena.

ADA is the only one that listed direct flights from Herrera (EOH) to Cartagena (CTG). However, the fare was more than double than flying from Jose Maria Cordoba (MDE).

Fares ranged from (USD) $161 to $475. I booked with Aires, flying out of MDE via Bogota to Cartagena, about 5 hours each way, for $176.

Hope this is helpful to someone. [/QUOTE]I did the trip from MDE to CTG last Mar. For around $80 one way nonstop on Avianca. This was with about two weeks notice. Of course if you paid $176 for a RT then it is not bad at all. I am not sure if the price you quoted was one way or not.

What a concept. Info and photos on hot working girls. Ahhh, if only there was a website for that.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120192]I personally don't mind all the stories of free loving. However, it would enforce the stories and shed some light as to what these aged Romeos are banging if they would add a picture or two of their conquests.

At least a body shot and or block the face. [/QUOTE]Between the romance novels and "Airfare for Dummies" info I'll try and contribute.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120192]I was once speaking to a bloke who raved about his non-pro gal and when I finally met / saw her I knew why she was a non-pro, YIKES! (LOL).[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head. If Don Juan is banging a hot chick, let's see the proof and my hat's off to them. If she's a fuglie then spare us the teenage drama and save it for your next giggly slumber party where you can tell your new BFF's.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120192]My preference is working girls. No games involved. Every now and then a non-pro comes along but only long enough to re-enforce my likings for the pros.

Cheers,

Cubanut. [/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120192]PS. So come on and use those point and shoots.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]145719[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]You got it. Here are 4 from my recent Medellin trips.

Reef

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1120424]What a concept. Info and photos on hot working girls. Ahhh, if only there was a website for that.

Between the romance novels and "Airfare for Dummies" info I'll try and contribute.

Reef[/QUOTE]Reefski,

Excellent reply.

Come on guys let's start picture trending Hot Paisas!

As Reefski mentioned I think we have enough airfare / bus info and romance novels to last a while.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut.

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I like casas but it's pain sometimes to take taxi and search for them. I am looking for equivalent of craigslist here where I can call the girls directly and pay. My budget is $50-70 per hour. Is this possible? I live in Laureles.

Are there any casas in Laureles area?

Ah yes. And even better go there and figure it out.

[QUOTE=Scharlie;1120466]I like casas but it's pain sometimes to take taxi and search for them. I am looking for equivalent of craigslist here where I can call the girls directly and pay. My budget is $50-70 per hour. Is this possible? I live in Laureles.[/QUOTE]

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]145719[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Cubanut, thanks for the pic; she is quality unlike we haven't seen on this thread in awhile.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=HowardHewett; 1120735]I was in town for a short time and wanted to see the casas but I had no idea where to find them. Found this web site colombiajake. Com and for me it was worth the money. Jake went with me and took the stress out of the whole thing so I could enjoy the experience. After the tour I had collected enough business cards to make my way back again with a taxi.

Howard[/QUOTE]Howard,

Interesting that you had no idea where to find casas. How did you know of them at all? How did you find this website?

I'm willing to bet that no one that reads this board does not know where the casas are. As well as knowing that if you go to the Medellin Lists, there is detailed info about addresses and pricing readily available FOR FREE. Even a newbie can copy and paste and print or just write down a few addresses.

I think Colombia Jake offers a decent service for a complete stranger to the scene. I do think that $35 for just 3 hours then $8 dollars each additional hour is a bit pricey though (a 5 hour tour will set you back $56 dollars!).

Boyd at the Casa Blanca 1&2 offers the same type of daytime casa tours for free but you do need to be a guest.

If there was no web info and you are totally clueless, then $39 room per night and at least one 3 hour tour is not a bad deal for the newbie or even for a guy on a budget.

In Rio there was a fella name Don who used to charge $200 a week to practically hand hold newbies. I thought at first that it was dumb to use such a service. Later after getting to know Don I could appreciate how much work it was to look out for what was sometimes a flock of clueless Gringos. Even took a few off his hands at times to attend a couple of my festinhas (orgies). He more than earned his costs in translations and keeping these guys from getting ripped off alone.

BTW- Howard I have to ask: Where is your report? Give us some details as to how the tour (s) went. Did you do only the day tour or the night tour as well? Did you stay at Jake's? If so how was the experience.

Lastly where and how did you find Colombia Jake's website on the internet? I tried several Google searches and unless you put in Colombia Jake in your search, his website does not come up.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut; 1120439]Reefski,

Excellent reply.

Come on guys let's start picture trending Hot Paisas!

As Reefski mentioned I think we have enough airfare / bus info and romance novels to last a while.

Stay Horny My Friends,

Cubanut.

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]145731[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]I agree, here's one of my favoritas. 19 yrs. old and a firecracker in la cama. The pics were taken in the Parque Del Cafe in Armenia.

Hey fellow mongers.

Heading back to Medellin and the mansion for 3rd time in 6 months in a couple weeks.

This time I am bring with me my american g / f who is crazy bi-curious and wants to eat Colombia pussy as much as I do. Yes she knows about all my adventures down in the mansion before.

Any recomendation guys on casas or places to go with her where we can find chicas to enjoy together?

Thanks guys.

Dan

This is a story that I'd wanted to tell, but hard to convey, I will try.

The day was January 1st, 2011, a Saturday, my plane leaves at 2, so I need to be at the airport at 12 or so.

A girl, prepago, was supposed to arrive at 9 am, on the morning of the 1st, and though I didn't really believe she'd show, I needed some money in case she did. So out I went, from my 4th story apt, at 8 am or so, looking for an ATM. I got some dough, but she didn't show up, so I sauntered out again.

I found a place for some coffee and croissants down on Avenida Poblado. 43a, near the intersection with calle 10. Walking up 10 calle, I found another spot open for business, and ordered more coffee and bread.

Sitting down on the sidewalk, drinking my coffee, around 9:45, this is near Parque Lleras, I saw some taxistas. I said to them, it doesn't look to me like you are working, but they said yes we are, and I told them that I needed a ride to the airport.

How they decide these things I don't know, but one of them was going to give me a ride to the airport, and he offered to give me a ride to my apt, which was just a few blocks up calle 10. So I said OK, he took me up there, and I told him I'the be just a little while packing my things. He waited on the street (Ave 37).

He was very personable, a big guy really. 6 foot or 6 foot 1, 180 or 190, 38 years old.

I walked up the four flights to my apt, entered and cleaned things up and packed. I don't carry much, so this didn't take long.

I considered carefully, but convinced that I'd packed everything and left nothing behind I left the keys in the apt and closed the heavy, ponderous door.

I walked down one flight of steps, turned around to continue down and confronted a metal gate. I'd forgotten the gate on the 3rd floor, which was locked as I had closed it coming up. Pondering. I pondered the situation. There was another apt there, sort of on floor 3 1-2, but although you could hear music, no one answered the doorbell. I looked over the situation carefully, and became aware that there were bars everywhere, there was simply no way to get down to the next level without a key.

For a considerable time, 5 to 10 minutes, I simply thought. Finally, seeing the taxista down on the street beginning to pace, perhaps impatiently, I called down to him, estoy preso, I am a prisoner. He asked for the number of the apt that was accessible to me, the one from which music came, and he rang the apt from below, but no one answered.

Time passed, and he alerted other residents. There were a number of ladies, very kind, and they came out from their apts on the morning of the New Year, if not in batas (bathrobes) in some sort of informal dress, and it seemed like each lady tried their key to floor 3 1-2. But they didn't have the key to a floor above them.

We talked about what to do, it really seemed insoluble. The caretaker for my apt did not answer the phone, seguro que andaba guayabo (he had a hangover). One of the ladies had the idea to go for a locksmith, and she and the taxista rode in the taxi to the locksmith's house, but he was unavailable that New Year's morning (guayabo seguro). We continued to ponder.

An older, somewhat frail guy mentioned a ladder. I said well, a ladder won't hurt, and somehow he procured a ladder. It was a wooden ladder, and I swear I recall that at least one of the slats, maybe two, were broken.

By that time, the taxista, the older frail guy, and the women, 2 or 3, were all collected on what I will call the 3rd floor, below me.

To try to give you an idea, each floor was basically parallel to the one above, if that means anything. What I mean is that from my vantage, looking out, obviously I was standing on a floor, but at waist height was a wall of sorts, and beyond that was nothingness, and beyond that the street. And on each floor below, and there were at least two, it was the same. So to see the people, the taxista, the old thin guy, and the women who were trying to help me this Saturday morning, January 1st, I had to lean out and look down to see them, and of course they had to look up to me.

Thinking, thinking, pondering, pondering. The only feature that offered some difference, hope, or whatever you want to call it, was that the apt at level 3 1-2, had a balcony. So I am standing on level 3, the border or 1-2 wall in front of me at waist height, but to my left, beginning a little above the height of my head, is a balcony with iron railings. So I tell the people assembled below, that I am going to go out and hang off the balcony railings and see where I stand (or hang). As I recall I could keep my left foot on the 4 foot wall, so if I felt like I was totally out of control, I could come back in.

The taxi guy asked me if I really wanted to do that, saunter out, hang off the rails, but I affirmed to him that I did, with the idea that I could come back in if necessary.

Before I ventured out, I handed-tossed down my leather jacket and my cell phone, to the taxi guy one floor below. I always carry a pen, and on that occasion I had a baseball cap, and the pen I tossed down to the ground, to get a sense of reality I suppose. I did the same with the cap, and it circled lazily down some 30 to 40 feet to the ground below.

The frail older guy proposed balancing or 'footing' the ladder on the 4 foot wall below, some 4 or 5 inches in width, but I vetoed that, and I insisted that the ladder had to rest solidly on the floor below.

I ventured out, hanging from the railings. I had a firm grasp on the iron railings. I transferred my left foot from the 4 foot, 4 inch thick wall, to the old wooden ladder. As I put more weight on it, it slipped. I think at that point the taxista, the strong 38 year old, replaced the frail older dude as the wooden ladder holder.

But even then, there was the crucial next step. For some period of time, it was necessary for me to have all my weight on my left foot, on the ladder, let go with my hands and step down with my right foot to the 4 foot wall below. So there was this special instant of time upcoming, perhaps a second or two.

I told the taxista, who had the ladder at this point, that there could be no more slipping, no more anything, había llegado el momento clave, the key point in time. He said OK.

Suddenly, I made that transition, all the weight on the left foot on the ladder, let go of the railings, a moment, and then the right foot on the 4 foot wall. 30 feet was below. The taxista held firm. It was over.

Everyone was happy, hooping and hollering as befits January 1st. Some of the ladies talked in English partially. As I descended, we all celebrated. I wished everyone Feliz New Year.

The taxista took me to the airport. He said to me a few things. One, the lady on the floor below me, had told him that it was too difficult to find a real boyfriend, she thought (laughingly) she would arrange a prepago. Also, he said he didn't think he would have done that (what I had done). And he had a saying, no somos ladrones pero hacemos maromas. (we aren't thieves but we do acrobatics).

We talked a lot on the way to the airport, he was successful in business but he had been denied a visa to the US, and he was resentful. I enjoyed talking to him and tipped him. And we parted.

Just back from a week long visit to Medellin.

This trip reminded me of the Eagles song, Take it Easy, and the 7 Paisas on my mind. 4 that want to own me. 2 that want to stone me and 1 says she's a friend of mine hahaha.

Throw in a Superbowl Party at the Casa Blanca 2 and it was a pretty fun trip overall.

I'm just back in Miami, still tired from last night's after (super bowl) party, so a better report tomorrow and a few fotos to keep Cubanut off my back hahaha, just kidding amigo.

[quote=chesrep001;1120918]this is a story that i'd wanted to tell, but hard to convey, i will try.[/quote]chesrep001,

once before the the mansion or castillo were around in medellin there was the penthouse. it's the altos de parrill (sp?). ten stories then an 11th floor where the bedrooms and outdoor pool are.

well one day greg wasn't around and robert was out of town. one of staff had left her keys in her room and had accidentally locked the door to her room. two other girls had taken to dissembling the door knob harness an still could not open the locked door. so one of the girls had the idea to place a wood plank from a room who's window was on an agle form the locked room. she then was going to crawl on the wood plank across to the window of the locked room.

one of the girls came up to my room and asked me to talk the girl out of trying because any slip up or if the plank cracked meant a straight 10 story fall to certain death. so i came down just as the girl was about to start and i said no way was she to even try what she was thinking. so i asked them to show me the locked door. we went around to the other side and i saw the locked door with the disassembled doorknob. i looked at it for a whole 10 seconds then walked back into the kitchen and grabbed a plastic coated table coaster and went back to the locked door. using the plastic coaster the same as a credit card i slid it on strike plate and rested on the dead latch and holding the stem of the doorknob mechanism gave it a few shakes back and forth while applying forward pressure to the plastic coaster which slid further between strike plate and dead latch and whoa la! it opened!

the girls cheered and i got a big hug and kiss from the girl that was going to attempt the the crawl.

those colombianas got some balls, i'll give them that. but not much horse sense.

cheers,

cubanut

Planning my first trip to MDE. Wanting to stay at the Mansion 1 for a week until I get my bearings. Need suggestions on what room to reserve. Don't need a lot of space (cost) but, private bathroom a must for me. Also, I plan to rent an apartment for the rest of my trip from [url]www.theapartmentmedellin.com.[/url] Looking at a 1 bedroom but, where? Oviedo Mall #1806, El Tesoro #602 or Parque Lleras #1504? Would like easy of convience ex. Minimal taxi jaunts. Hate dealing with shifty cabbies and girl friendly. Fairly nice and comfortable to entertain guests. Anyone have experience with these guys? Any suggestions? Thanks, Stay cool brothers

[QUOTE=Arjay; 1120966]Planning my first trip to MDE. Wanting to stay at the Mansion 1 for a week until I get my bearings. Need suggestions on what room to reserve. Don't need a lot of space (cost) but, private bathroom a must for me. Also, I plan to rent an apartment for the rest of my trip from.

[url]www.theapartmentmedellin.com.[/url]

Looking at a 1 bedroom but, where? Oviedo Mall #1806, El Tesoro #602 or Parque Lleras #1504? Would like easy of convience ex. Minimal taxi jaunts. Hate dealing with shifty cabbies and girl friendly. Fairly nice and comfortable to entertain guests. Anyone have experience with these guys? Any suggestions? Thanks, Stay cool brothers[/QUOTE]At the Mansion 1, I think if you are looking for budget then stay in Room 8. Room 8 is smaller and has separate bathroom. If you can't get Room 8 then stay at Room 9. Room 9 is in the basement which they call the dungeon, but last time one of my friends stayed their and I saw the Room. Room 9 is not that bad especially if you consider privacy. Now I don't know how much noise goes down to Room 9 because it is below Kitchen.

As per cabbies in Medellin. I have seldom had any problems with them. Cab drivers in Medellin are not that bad. I only recall once a driver took me around due to communication problems and I was mad at him. What the driver did is just left me on the street where I can get another taxi easily. He did not take any money from me.

Later I thought that it was probably not the driver trying to rip me off of few bucks but my lack of explaining to him where I wanted to go.

Now if taxi driver problem has not happened to me does not mean it doesn't happen in Medellin. I am sure you will hear many complaints from other fellow mongers.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Palermo;1120923]........P. S. I might like to edit something but don't see how to do it, anyone able to tell me the secret?[/QUOTE]I think practically you have a window of a few hours to edit ( edit post icon appears on your report) your report after you posted it. If the report even a day old, you have to send an e-mail to Jackson requesting the edit.

Bandy

Hola Hola to all,

I have been in Medellin for 4 days now and have not had a great time meeting prepagos. Even though the dough is there maybe they only like old men as that what I only see around parque lleras. There could be two issues one is that I do not look like a typical gringo and second that my Spanish is quite good so I think they just pass me by with out a second look thinking I am some Colombian scrub. I am new to the game here in Madellin but a different story in Panama. I tried to contact the mansion to know if there were any parties I could attend or meet some people, the lady on the phone said it was not possible unless I had a room there que madres so much for net working any way I am already booked at another prestigious hotel. So far my experience has been various strip clubs nothing special in my opinion. So amigos I would like to meet some of you out there or if you need a wing man just PM me. Some beers, couple of nice chicas or finding some your help will be greatly appreciated.

With best regards,

Play Ground

[QUOTE=Play Ground; 1121133]Hola Hola to all,

I have been in Medellin for 4 days now and have not had a great time meeting prepagos. Even though the dough is there maybe they only like old men as that what I only see around parque lleras. There could be two issues one is that I do not look like a typical gringo and second that my Spanish is quite good so I think they just pass me by with out a second look thinking I am some Colombian scrub. I am new to the game here in Madellin but a different story in Panama. I tried to contact the mansion to know if there were any parties I could attend or meet some people, the lady on the phone said it was not possible unless I had a room there que madres so much for net working any way I am already booked at another prestigious hotel. So far my experience has been various strip clubs nothing special in my opinion. So amigos I would like to meet some of you out there or if you need a wing man just PM me. Some beers, couple of nice chicas or finding some your help will be greatly appreciated.

With best regards,

Play Ground[/QUOTE]I'm old, bald, ugly and cheap, and I get laid like gangbusters! Can you be more specific as to why you're not having the time of your life?

[QUOTE=Play Ground; 1121133]Hola Hola to all,

I have been in Medellin for 4 days now and have not had a great time meeting prepagos. Even though the dough is there maybe they only like old men as that what I only see around parque lleras. There could be two issues one is that I do not look like a typical gringo and second that my Spanish is quite good so I think they just pass me by with out a second look thinking I am some Colombian scrub. I am new to the game here in Madellin but a different story in Panama. I tried to contact the mansion to know if there were any parties I could attend or meet some people, the lady on the phone said it was not possible unless I had a room there que madres so much for net working any way I am already booked at another prestigious hotel. So far my experience has been various strip clubs nothing special in my opinion. So amigos I would like to meet some of you out there or if you need a wing man just PM me. Some beers, couple of nice chicas or finding some your help will be greatly appreciated.

With best regards,

Play Ground[/QUOTE]Play Ground,

I haven't presented HUNDREDS of pictures of great looking prepagos that frequent the Mansion over the last few years for nothing. Yet many fellas like yourself "Just don't or refuse to GET IT!"

You are a young newbie that has money and speaks Spanish and has mongered elsewhere and you thought it is just soooo easy to just hit the casas and strip joints for prepagos. Yet you deny yourself one of the best places for a 1st timer to start at in Medellin. Casa Blanca 1 & 2 (aka La Mansion & Castillo)!

You even know about Casa Blanca and yet are staying at another "prestigious hotel" that is probably NOT guest friendly and definitely will not make any prepago connects or recommendations!

The policy is simple, if you are not a guest of the Casa Blanca 1 or 2, YOU DON"T GET TO HANG THERE!

Dude, you missed an awesome Superbowl party with more chicas than gringos and a private strip / masturbation / squirting halftime show that was going on WHILE YOU WERE IN MEDELLIN!

INCREDIBLE!

And PLEASE don't anyone say I am being hard on this fella. I am just sooo fricken tired of all the where do I do this and were can I find this crap that is being asked over and fricken over!

Play Ground, if you have some time left in Medellin, do yourself a favor and book at least two nights at the Casa Blanca 1. Tell the staff Boyd or Robert especially, what you are looking for and let them make some recommendations. Also let Boyd tell you where the best casa girls are currently working at. Saves a lot of time and effort going it cold turkey. Do yourself a favor and CHECK IT OUT!

I AM OUT,

Cubanut

Hey fellas,

I'm new to the MDE thread but used to play in Rio a good bit and posted some reports 10 & 5 years ago but just can't take it anymore and am looking to get out and see some beautiful chicas!

Short story is 37, pretty good shape and going to pop in on a Tuesday and Leave Saturday, I know basic Spanish, and have about 1000-1500 to play with for my 4 night / 5day excursion.

Questions:

1. Looking to stay at the Mansion because I know no one and I'm always up for meeting new friends and fellow hobiest. Seems they can show me around or at least point me in the right direction, hopefully.

2. Normal routine before was wake up at Noon, grab a bite, hit beach from 2-4ish grab a chica to relax, take a siesta for a few hours, grab some beers with bro's. Hit dinner around 10ish with a new chica or bro's and then hit club at midnight to 1AM party enjoy drink do a nighter with Chica or an hour if tired. Go to bed 4-5AM rinse and repeat. Is this typical procedure for MDE, and if not what is?

3. I'm all for hitting casas or strip clubs during day or early evening but I'm more into the club, dance or lively bar scene late night. Can I do this at night with a pretty damn sure idea for scoring a hotty?

4. I thought about getting a GFE4Week for 4 hours on first afternoon in to let off steam, pop my MDE cherry and practice my Spanish a bit, plus since I have no network I thought she may invite some friends to hook up for the late night party at club or wherever?

Just looking to do some homework before I comeout in Late March or Early April and hope MDE is 1/2 as good as RIO, becuase that's juts a sick sick debauchery place. GOD I MISS IT!

Thanks for all the insight and looking forward to my trip!

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Hey fellas,

I'm new to the MDE thread but used to play in Rio a good bit and posted some reports 10 & 5 years ago but just can't take it anymore and am looking to get out and see some beautiful chicas! [/QUOTE]Good of you to expand your horizons.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]Short story is 37, pretty good shape and going to pop in on a Tuesday and Leave Saturday, I know basic Spanish, and have about 1000-1500 to play with for my 4 night / 5day excursion.[/QUOTE]Well you will make the Friday night party scene but miss the Saturday night Paisa poon parade at Parque Lleras the also miss the Sunday pool party at the Mansion (aka Casa Blanca 1).

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:

1. Looking to stay at the Mansion because I know no one and I'm always up for meeting new friends and fellow hobiest. Seems they can show me around or at least point me in the right direction, hopefully. [/QUOTE]You are correct in your assessment of the Mansion (aka Casa Blanca 1).

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:2. Normal routine before was wake up at Noon, grab a bite, hit beach from 2-4ish grab a chica to relax, take a siesta for a few hours, grab some beers with bro's. Hit dinner around 10ish with a new chica or bro's and then hit club at midnight to 1AM party enjoy drink do a nighter with Chica or an hour if tired. Go to bed 4-5AM rinse and repeat. Is this typical procedure for MDE, and if not what is?[/QUOTE]Waking up at noon is fine if you don't do mornings. Aah but you do know there is no beach in Medellin, right? You grab a beer with fellow mongers and do chicas and also do late dinner. However, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday are not ideal for the late night party scene. The only real venues going on til 4am will be San Diego Strip Show and Fase II. Also a place called Mayorista which in itself never closes but the bars shut down early during the week.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:

3. I'm all for hitting casas or strip clubs during day or early evening but I'm more into the club, dance or lively bar scene late night. Can I do this at night with a pretty damn sure idea for scoring a hotty? [/QUOTE]You will be sure to score at places like Las Americas or Ejecetivo or Maracaibotil around 2 am then, like I say above only San Diego and Fase ii will still be open on a Tuesday thru Thursday. On Friday you can hit Mango's or Palmitas.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:

4. I thought about getting a GFE4Week for 4 hours on first afternoon in to let off steam, pop my MDE cherry and practice my Spanish a bit, plus since I have no network I thought she may invite some friends to hook up for the late night party at club or wherever? [/QUOTE]Sure do the GFE4 a Week for the 4 hour afternoon romp. However, I would be curious though if the girl would be willing to hook up later with friends without charging you by the hour for late night companionship for clubbing. After all that's why they also have 12 hour and 24 hour rates.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:

Just looking to do some homework before I come out in Late March or Early April and hope MDE is 1/2 as good as RIO, becuase that's juts a sick sick debauchery place. GOD I MISS IT![/QUOTE]Having seen and experienced Rio since 1993, I can tell you right now that Medellin is no where near the debauchery scene as Rio. But that's what makes Rio well Rio after all.

Depending on what looks you prefer, Medellin can be a great experience or a great disappointment if you are going to compare it to Rio. The same can be said vice versa.

Cheers,

Cubanut

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[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Hey fellas,

I'm new to the MDE thread but used to play in Rio a good bit and posted some reports 10 & 5 years ago but just can't take it anymore and am looking to get out and see some beautiful chicas!

Short story is 37, pretty good shape and going to pop in on a Tuesday and Leave Saturday, I know basic Spanish, and have about 1000-1500 to play with for my 4 night / 5day excursion.

Questions:

1. Looking to stay at the Mansion because I know no one and I'm always up for meeting new friends and fellow hobiest. Seems they can show me around or at least point me in the right direction, hopefully.

2. Normal routine before was wake up at Noon, grab a bite, hit beach from 2-4ish grab a chica to relax, take a siesta for a few hours, grab some beers with bro's. Hit dinner around 10ish with a new chica or bro's and then hit club at midnight to 1AM party enjoy drink do a nighter with Chica or an hour if tired. Go to bed 4-5AM rinse and repeat. Is this typical procedure for MDE, and if not what is?

3. I'm all for hitting casas or strip clubs during day or early evening but I'm more into the club, dance or lively bar scene late night. Can I do this at night with a pretty damn sure idea for scoring a hotty?

4. I thought about getting a GFE4Week for 4 hours on first afternoon in to let off steam, pop my MDE cherry and practice my Spanish a bit, plus since I have no network I thought she may invite some friends to hook up for the late night party at club or wherever?

Just looking to do some homework before I comeout in Late March or Early April and hope MDE is 1/2 as good as RIO, becuase that's juts a sick sick debauchery place. GOD I MISS IT!

Thanks for all the insight and looking forward to my trip![/QUOTE]I guess now all the Rio guys are tired of sitting home jacking their dick watching Slayer fuck all the Brazillian girls from a couple years ago. Well, Medellin is NOT Rio. Nothing is like the old Rio. But welcome.

Here's the scoop, don't fuck it up. The casas during the days if thats your thing. But otherwise hit Mayorista (its safe) at 10pm. Stay have a couple beers, then hit Luna Luneras (strip club). If your not alone try El Centro. About 1am fall into Sandiego, buy a bottle of rum (25usd) and enjoy the show (completely safe). Pass out your number for an afternnon delight. Sleep late. Hit Sante fe mall for a late lunch or get on the Metro and get off at San Antonio station and walk around. Take a late nap and repeat. Plain and simple. Don't make it difficult.

Hi all,

Another Newbie on his way to MDE on the first week of March here! Don't worry Cubanut, I've listened to you! I've already reserved my spot on CB2, so don't cut my head off just yet!

Just one question to all, and I know that you may have answered this one before but it won't hurt if you do it again, can anyone tell me based on your experiences where can you get the best exchange rate from US dollars to Colombian pesos in Medellin? A friend of mine said that the best way is just to get your money from an ATM machine and that all the US cards work over there but is this the best option?

I'm from Tijuana and everyone knows here that the best exchange rate in Mexico is found at las casas de cambio (exchange houses) and that you get screwed by the banks in poor exchange rates and high fees if you do it any other way, is it different in Colombia?

[QUOTE=Jim0129; 1121366]Hi all,

Another Newbie on his way to MDE on the first week of March here! Don't worry Cubanut, I've listened to you! I've already reserved my spot on CB2, so don't cut my head off just yet!

Just one question to all, and I know that you may have answered this one before but it won't hurt if you do it again, can anyone tell me based on your experiences where can you get the best exchange rate from US dollars to Colombian pesos in Medellin? A friend of mine said that the best way is just to get your money from an ATM machine and that all the US cards work over there but is this the best option?

I'm from Tijuana and everyone knows here that the best exchange rate in Mexico is found at las casas de cambio (exchange houses) and that you get screwed by the banks in poor exchange rates and high fees if you do it any other way, is it different in Colombia? [/QUOTE]Last time I was in MDE I got stuck with a phony 20K bill I got in change. The part that really pissed me off was when later in a Disco while paying my bill the waiter ripped the bill in half. After I complained that if he thought the bill was bogus he should have given it back to me instead of destroying it. I was then told by a friend that is the policy in Colombia to do that. I guess I will have to learn how to rub the bills the way I see everyone else I pay money to.

The ATM machines give out good money. I always use them. TD Bank gives me the best rate with no fees of the four ATM cards I use. Of course you don't get the real exchange rate, but the poor banks have to make a living too. If you go to a bank in Colombia to change money they put you thru a big hassle. Changing money on the sreet is another issue. I think it makes you a possible target. Don't forget you as a tourist are a big point of interest to some very shady locals

[QUOTE=John Gault;1121418]Last time I was in MDE I got stuck with a phony 20K bill I got in change. The part that really pissed me off was when later in a Disco while paying my bill the waiter ripped the bill in half. After I complained that if he thought the bill was bogus he should have given it back to me instead of destroying it. I was then told by a friend that is the policy in Colombia to do that. I guess I will have to learn how to rub the bills the way I see everyone else I pay money to ...[/QUOTE]I just got back from Medellin.

While paying for burgers at the McDonald's in el Poblado, the cashier showed me a fake 10K I was paying with, and he just returned it to me without tearing it up.

Though it looked real, through closer inspection, I could see it was a fake.

The chica I was with who had asked for McDs, showed me how to check for fakes, then she asked me for the fake

Bill for safekeeping, though I'm guessing she'll use it later.

I'm pretty sure I got the fake bill from one of the little motels there on the Mayorista while paying for a room, so keep an eye out there for fakes.

One time, a while back, I received a fake 50 from the ATM at Citibank (I think it was San Diego). I knew it was fake when I went to pay for my son's Colombia passport and the guy receiving the bills cut a diamond into the center of the bill and returned it to me.

You never know what you can be stuck with and by whom. This was a "respectable" institution and I got stuck. No way to complain after I had left the area.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121418]Last time I was in MDE I got stuck with a phony 20K bill I got in change. The part that really pissed me off was when later in a Disco while paying my bill the waiter ripped the bill in half. After I complained that if he thought the bill was bogus he should have given it back to me instead of destroying it. I was then told by a friend that is the policy in Colombia to do that. I guess I will have to learn how to rub the bills the way I see everyone else I pay money to.

The ATM machines give out good money. I always use them. TD Bank gives me the best rate with no fees of the four ATM cards I use. Of course you don't get the real exchange rate, but the poor banks have to make a living too. If you go to a bank in Colombia to change money they put you thru a big hassle. Changing money on the sreet is another issue. I think it makes you a possible target. Don't forget you as a tourist are a big point of interest to some very shady locals[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jim0129;1121366]Just one question to all, and I know that you may have answered this one before but it won't hurt if you do it again, can anyone tell me based on your experiences where can you get the best exchange rate from US dollars to Colombian pesos in Medellin?[/QUOTE][B]ATM[/B]. Nothing else even comes close, even if your bank charges ridiculous fees and gives a crappy TRM.

In the airport after you get your luggage and clear DAS find a way to go upstairs as if you were departing on a flight. I know it is a pain in the ass to do this with your luggage and of course you are travelling alone so there is no one else who can just watch your bags.

There are two or three ATMs where you can take out all the scratch you need if you must have pesos immediately.

[B]ATM[/B]

[QUOTE=Justafool; 1121461]One time, a while back, I received a fake 50 from the ATM at Citibank (I think it was San Diego). I knew it was fake when I went to pay for my son's Colombia passport and the guy receiving the bills cut a diamond into the center of the bill and returned it to me.

You never know what you can be stuck with and by whom. This was a "respectable" institution and I got stuck. No way to complain after I had left the area. [/QUOTE]IMHO the best way to tell if a bill is fake is smell it. Money smells like money. Period.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1121481][B]ATM[/B]. Nothing else even comes close, even if your bank charges ridiculous fees and gives a crappy TRM.

In the airport after you get your luggage and clear DAS find a way to go upstairs as if you were departing on a flight. I know it is a pain in the ass to do this with your luggage and of course you are travelling alone so there is no one else who can just watch your bags.

There are two or three ATMs where you can take out all the scratch you need if you must have pesos immediately.

[B]ATM[/B][/QUOTE]ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM!
How many times we have to repeat this? This question comes out so often.
Last time:
[b]ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM! [/b]

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]I'm new to the MDE thread but used to play in Rio a good bit and posted some reports 10 & 5 years ago but just can't take it anymore and am looking to get out and see some beautiful chicas![/QUOTE]Do not expect anything like Rio. Today's Rio or Rio 10 years ago. You will be disapointed. Try to come here with an open mind and relax.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]Short story is 37, pretty good shape and going to pop in on a Tuesday and Leave Saturday, I know basic Spanish, and have about 1000-1500 to play with for my 4 night / 5day excursion.[/QUOTE]Your age and number of hairs on your balls matters little. You got money.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121310]Questions:

1. Looking to stay at the Mansion because I know no one and I'm always up for meeting new friends and fellow hobiest. Seems they can show me around or at least point me in the right direction, hopefully. [/QUOTE]Good choice based on what you have written.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]2. Normal routine before was wake up at Noon, grab a bite, hit beach from 2-4ish grab a chica to relax, take a siesta for a few hours, grab some beers with bro's. Hit dinner around 10ish with a new chica or bro's and then hit club at midnight to 1AM party enjoy drink do a nighter with Chica or an hour if tired. Go to bed 4-5AM rinse and repeat. Is this typical procedure for MDE, and if not what is?[/QUOTE]Like cubanut said you are going to be hard up for late night discos on Tue, Wed and even Thu. Also I doubt you are going to find "bros" at CB1 who don't look like Mickey Rooney who are looking to hit the Disco Clubs at midnight to stay for an hour while you try to pick up and estrato 6 spoiled beyotch. Neither one of those things is all that likely. If you do go on a Friday to a club, say Palmahias, OZ or Babylon your chances of picking up up a prostitute or regular babe is extremely scarce.

If by "[I]Hit dinner around 10ish with a new chica or bro's and then hit club at midnight to 1AM party enjoy drink do a nighter with Chica or an hour if tired."[/I] Does [B]not [/B]mean normal disco, like I listed above, and means strip club, then the getting laid TLN thing seems more like a sure thing. You seem to have some cabbage, I'd skip the BS and right to FASE II, forget Centro strip clubs like Las Americas, Ejecutvca etc., at night, please. You sound like you are not hard up for cash for the $20 smelly skank or to waste time trying to find that diamond in the rough.

Note: many restuarants may not serve you if you walk in 10ish unless it is a Fri night in Parque LLeras. If you are talking Mickey D's or a hotdog on the street disregard this note.

Reaching the beach would require many hours in car or having to go back to the airport. Not feasible.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]3. I'm all for hitting casas or strip clubs during day or early evening but I'm more into the club, dance or lively bar scene late night. Can I do this at night with a pretty damn sure idea for scoring a hotty?[/QUOTE][B]NO[/B], score the hotty first. Medelin is not Rio, is not NYC, there are no bars with girls hanging out looking to meet men. The girls go out pretty much in couples or 4 or 5 girls with one or two guys. The guys are paying. Yes you can get a number while the guy is in the bathroom and maybe meet the girl the following day or week. But your time is limited, and again this is not Rio. Do you really want to spend the night stalking alone waiting to sneak in while the broad hits the john?

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121310]4. I thought about getting a GFE4Week for 4 hours on first afternoon in to let off steam, pop my MDE cherry and practice my Spanish a bit, plus since I have no network I thought she may invite some friends to hook up for the late night party at club or wherever?[/QUOTE]This is a possibility but the owner of the place reads this site and already has a make on you. Keep this low as he loses his pimp cut if you go out with the girl freebie or sans pimp.

Bro, en pocas palabras your short time here and the fact that you are staying at CB1 with $1, 000-$1, 500 means you can do it right. Guys young at heart still love to pick up the non pros, the thrill of the chase, but it takes a little time more time here than other cities.

This is what I would do. Forget GF4A week, get on the phone with CB1 and let them know that you are looking for a few candidates to be your girlfriend TLN for a disco all nighter thurs or fri night, a girl with no kids or emergency "I have to go home because my child is sick". Describe your type.

Have the first candidate ready to meet you that first hour when you arrive so you can bust a nut and see if you have chemistry. Get a massage, you just flew in! Then have the second candidate ready to meet you shortly thereafter (another massage!). One of them will be your girl for clubbing, get their numbers, ask the first girl and get her to say yes (in case the second one sucks). Hopefully Marci has screened them and you are getting two candidates who are already willing to hang all night with you at the disco and then for a romp in the sack afterwards until dawn.

If you can get one of the CB1 guys to go with you to the disco you will have a foursome for the table. More fun.

On the off nights go to FASE II for some top end strip club action, girls there cost about $80 for an hour in the room, buy a bottle for the table and share shots with the broads. Note these girls need to work and can't really call out sick and hit Palmihias with you so they are not candidates for your disco night.

If the first two girls at CB1 are duds they can call you more. Also the girls in the casa if you go in the day time do not work at night and could be your disco girl. - but they start work in the AM in the casas so they may be reluctant to go nuts all night with you. Most of the CB1 girls are straight freelancers.

You have from Tuesday to start the hunt.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1121486]IMHO the best way to tell if a bill is fake is smell it. Money smells like money. Period.[/QUOTE]Also if you chew off a corner and eat it money has a special taste. It is difficult to fake. I usually carry a special satchel of salt and a beer chaser. It is fool proof.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1121491]ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM! ATM!

How many times we have to repeat this? This question comes out so often.

Last time:

[b]ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM ATM! [/b][/QUOTE]Is there a more simple way to exchange money than those costly, complicated and hard to find ATM's?

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121418]Last time I was in MDE I got stuck with a phony 20K bill I got in change. The part that really pissed me off was when later in a Disco while paying my bill the waiter ripped the bill in half. After I complained that if he thought the bill was bogus he should have given it back to me instead of destroying it. I was then told by a friend that is the policy in Colombia to do that. I guess I will have to learn how to rub the bills the way I see everyone else I pay money to.

The ATM machines give out good money. I always use them. TD Bank gives me the best rate with no fees of the four ATM cards I use. Of course you don't get the real exchange rate, but the poor banks have to make a living too. If you go to a bank in Colombia to change money they put you thru a big hassle. Changing money on the sreet is another issue. I think it makes you a possible target. Don't forget you as a tourist are a big point of interest to some very shady locals[/QUOTE]I was stuck with a fake 10k bill too. Given to me by a taxi driver. Lesson learned. Always have small bills when paying a taxi! Seems like they see a lot of tourist and easy to pass on. After feeling it, I could tell the difference. I'll be shaking those bills from now on too!

[QUOTE=Justafool; 1121461]One time, a while back, I received a fake 50 from the ATM at Citibank (I think it was San Diego). I knew it was fake when I went to pay for my son's Colombia passport and the guy receiving the bills cut a diamond into the center of the bill and returned it to me.

You never know what you can be stuck with and by whom. This was a "respectable" institution and I got stuck. No way to complain after I had left the area.[/QUOTE]Are you sure it was from the bank and you didn't mix the bill from somewhere else? Hard to believe a bank doesn't check their bills.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1121500]Is there a more simple way to exchange money than those costly, complicated and hard to find ATM's?[/QUOTE]You are being sarcastic right? There is practically a ATM on every street corner.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1121481][B]ATM[/B]. Nothing else even comes close, even if your bank charges ridiculous fees and gives a crappy TRM.

In the airport after you get your luggage and clear DAS find a way to go upstairs as if you were departing on a flight. I know it is a pain in the ass to do this with your luggage and of course you are travelling alone so there is no one else who can just watch your bags.

There are two or three ATMs where you can take out all the scratch you need if you must have pesos immediately.

[B]ATM[/B][/QUOTE]Actually there's an ATM DOWNstairs now, right after you go through the luggage inspection, it's past the first exit and at the second exit I believe, before you go outside.

Much more convenient.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1121497]. This is what I would do. Forget GF4A week, get on the phone with CB1 and let them know that you are looking for a few candidates to be your girlfriend TLN for a disco all nighter thurs or fri night, a girl with no kids or emergency "I have to go home because my child is sick". Describe your type.

Have the first candidate ready to meet you that first hour when you arrive so you can bust a nut and see if you have chemistry. Get a massage.

On the off nights go to FASE II for some top end strip club action, girls there cost about $80 for an hour in the room, buy a bottle for the table and share shots with the broads. Note these girls need to work and can't really call out sick and hit Palmihias with you so they are not candidates for your disco night. [/QUOTE]That's some great advice, I'm going to second it.

Maybe throw Luna Lunera in there (another strip club) and a visit to the Mayorista just to see what it's about.

I actually found a couple 'keepers' there in my last week's stay.

They both were very pretty, had Cedulas, and spent the night with me at the CB2.

Very GFE and accepted whatever dinero I gave 'em, along with little gifts I brought along.

However, I am admittedly a Mayorista vet and am good at the "Mayo hunt" hahaha :)

Good luck to ya.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121513]That's some great advice, I'm going to second it.

Maybe throw Luna Lunera in there (another strip club) and a visit to the [B]Mayorista just to see what it's about. [/B]

I actually found a couple 'keepers' there in my last week's stay.

They both were very pretty, had Cedulas, and spent the night with me at the CB2.

Very GFE and accepted whatever dinero I gave 'them, along with little gifts I brought along.

However, I am admittedly a Mayorista vet and am good at the "Mayo hunt" hahaha.

Good luck to ya. [/QUOTE]You are a seasoned vet, been here a hundred times, know the ropes and are conversational spanish, this is a tremendous edge.

I would totally recommend the big M as it is a fun place to hang out even if you don't partake in any sex and just watch the babes. After La Mayorista and getting primed (cheaper booze prices) then hit Luna and / or FaseII sounds like a good deal.

Hey guys,

I'll be going back to Tampa for March and April. Not the best time for newbies, but most of the time I have other veterans staying at My Place that will hold your hand and show you the ropes of La Mayorista and "casas". Worst case scenerio, somebody will be there to give you the keys and a short tour of the restaurants, supermarkets, banks, pharmacies, laundry facilities, Metro and point to where the "cuties" hang out.

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1121505]You are being sarcastic right? There is practically a ATM on every street corner.[/QUOTE]I sometimes have a hard time finding my own ass with both hands

Would love to. That is one hour from now. Don't know how this will work but I am online.

no quiere novio, quiere vacilar no más.

she doesn't want a boyfriend, she just wants to get it on, nothing more (translation is an art).

nejo & dalmata.

i apologize to lucky eddie, he is obviously a knowledgeable and valuable poster.

chesrep001

Last time I picked a cab in La Mayorista to visit El Museo de Castillo (1 mile from Poblado) , the driver dropped me off at a place not even close to Castillo. Since then I write a cab ID number in my memo whenever I ride taxi, and make sure that the driver sees me doing it. I hope it will prevent a potential fraud (it may not).

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1121502]I was stuck with a fake 10k bill too. Given to me by a taxi driver. Lesson learned. Always have small bills when paying a taxi! Seems like they see a lot of tourist and easy to pass on. After feeling it, I could tell the difference. I'll be shaking those bills from now on too![/QUOTE]

[quote=cubanut; 1121299]play ground,

i haven't presented hundreds of pictures of great looking prepagos that frequent the mansion over the last few years for nothing. yet many fellas like yourself "just don't or refuse to get it!"

you are a young newbie that has money and speaks spanish and has mongered elsewhere and you thought it is just soooo easy to just hit the casas and strip joints for prepagos. yet you deny yourself one of the best places for a 1st timer to start at in medellin. casa blanca 1 & 2 (aka la mansion & castillo)!

you even know about casa blanca and yet are staying at another "prestigious hotel" that is probably not guest friendly and definitely will not make any prepago connects or recommendations!

the policy is simple, if you are not a guest of the casa blanca 1 or 2, you don"t get to hang there!

dude, you missed an awesome superbowl party with more chicas than gringos and a private strip / masturbation / squirting halftime show that was going on while you were in medellin!

incredible!

and please don't anyone say i am being hard on this fella. i am just sooo fricken tired of all the where do i do this and were can i find this crap that is being asked over and fricken over!

play ground, if you have some time left in medellin, do yourself a favor and book at least two nights at the casa blanca 1. tell the staff boyd or robert especially, what you are looking for and let them make some recommendations. also let boyd tell you where the best casa girls are currently working at. saves a lot of time and effort going it cold turkey. do yourself a favor and check it out!

i am out,

cubanut[/quote]i have to agree with cubanut. prior to my first real trip to mde, i scrubbed this forum and (guide?) for the names of all the daytime casas, all the strip clubs, all the discos, all the malls, and all the best restaurants. armed with the addresses, i plotted them out on google maps and made a graphic that showed their locations, when they are open, what price to expect and the quantity of girls based on reviews. i did this over the course of only about 2 months. i stayed at a nice rental apartment based on research i did in that arena. i was prepared to use the subway system, having printed out routes and plotting the locations of the stations (but i ended up only using taxis). i visited 80% of the daytime casas (some didn't exist anymore or i couldn't find) , all but one of the major strip clubs and 1 disco over the course of 4-5 days. and, i went solo. so, when i asked to meet up with some guys to exchange info, i felt like part of the team, not a leech. you can get opinions from anyone (and some here, like cubanut, are worthwhile) , but, if you don't do your own homework, you'll never know what you're missing out on. one guy told me not to go to san diego because the girls sucked. i talked him and his crew into stopping by just to peek in for 10 minutes and i bought the first round-dude ended up loving the place and, i thought it had some pretty quality girls. bottom line: you have to do your homework in order to be able to ask intelligent questions, otherwise, those with the knowledge to help you will be reluctant to do so. the reason is because in order to understand how to maneuver a city, you should be familiar at least with what you are trying to get out of it. to do that, you just have to do what others have done. you learn this by reading the f-ing forum! that said, check out the maps of casas in medellin thread and go crazy! (disclaimer: my map is about 2 years old and may not be accurate anymore). happy mongering.

yippie kiyay,

rodeo

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121513]That's some great advice, I'm going to second it.

Maybe throw Luna Lunera in there (another strip club) and a visit to the Mayorista just to see what it's about.

I actually found a couple 'keepers' there in my last week's stay.

They both were very pretty, had Cedulas, and spent the night with me at the CB2.

Very GFE and accepted whatever dinero I gave 'them, along with little gifts I brought along.

However, I am admittedly a Mayorista vet and am good at the "Mayo hunt" hahaha.

Good luck to ya. [/QUOTE]Great lips on that chick!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1121516]You are a seasoned vet, been here a hundred times, know the ropes and are conversational spanish, this is a tremendous edge.

I would totally recommend the big M as it is a fun place to hang out even if you don't partake in any sex and just watch the babes. After La Mayorista and getting primed (cheaper booze prices) then hit Luna and / or FaseII sounds like a good deal. [/QUOTE]Lets see, Mayorista, then maybe Luna Lunera. Man that does sound good. Maybe one day I will meet the famous LE and we can hunt together. One thing for sure if I don't want to pay the frieght at the high end spot, I know I may get lucky in the getto.

I see the tatt on Rickers girl's leg and now I must hunt her down if she is in Mayorista again. Por favor a first name would aid my quest. My PM box awaits.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1121625]I got to say, I saw a couple of Ricker's girls and they were smoking hot. Slim, around 18-20 with bodies and faces to die for. Definitely a couple of nice additions to the trophy case.

Reef. [/QUOTE]I'm just lucky I got them past smilin' Don at the Casa Blanca 2 hahaha.

Just kidding if ya read this amigo.

I have to say though, there are always a few cool, well traveled guys staying at the Casa Blancas that are a pleasure to meet and share experiences with, normally over breakfast and Amada's famous pancakes at the CB 2.

Sure there will always be a few goobers in the mix, but that makes it interesting too I guess.

Was a pleasure to meet and hang with Reefski and a couple other good guys this trip at the CB2.

Definitely some wordly experience there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1121626]Great lips on that chick![/QUOTE]One of my favorites with lips to die for.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121656]I'm just lucky I got them past smilin' Don at the Casa Blanca 2 hahaha.

Just kidding if ya read this amigo.

I have to say though, there are always a few cool, well traveled guys staying at the Casa Blancas that are a pleasure to meet and share experiences with, normally over breakfast and Amada's famous pancakes at the CB 2.

Sure there will always be a few goobers in the mix, but that makes it interesting too I guess.

Was a pleasure to meet and hang with Reefski and a couple other good guys this trip at the CB2.

Definitely some wordly experience there. [/QUOTE]Great photo though, I noticed that when you are in Brazil you kind of go for the more shapely types, that one had just the right amount of pechas, more than a mouthful is just wasteful, thanks for sharing!

Thanks all for the Reply to my initial request for info.

It's funny to see that an old report of mine from Rio had next to it saves trip report from Cubanut in 2005 about MDE.

I'm starting to get the bigger picture here about MDE since there is no "Help" I just want to make the most out of my opportunity and not have to Hunt that hard. Break out the silver spoon please, cause I'll pay for convenience or drop a beer to say Thanks!

So, a little recap: There is no big Nightlife Tuesday-Thursday? Unless it is a Strip club? Which I don't mind I just want to get laid when I wake-up. If not LTE, after my lunch or siesta 2-5PM and the late night for a quick hour or LTE if she warrants and my stamina is up from 11pm-forward AM.

I want Quality not quantity but I also am not looking to throw the cash splash down to mark territory either, so do the Escort sites provide reliable hot ass like in picture, can I find independents that do it as well but cheaper and.

MOST Importantly whomever I do find to hook-up with, what's the best way to qualify if they will have a Killer Attitude for Fun and Pleasure without the Bullshit games of I'm sick, my Kids and so forth.

I'm stoked for my upcoming adventure and do appreciate the spoon feeding. I promise to pay it back where warranted and just for the record on GFE4Week, I meant pay for the work and then say "Kool Gringo, Pays well, respects the pleasure and just wants good times so if you have like minded FRIENDS. NOT you on Clock, who want to comeout and enjoy the festivities then I'm down for it. I recognize this is a business not looking to take advantage of hospitality.

I'll take all advice and insights you guys have!

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121683]Thanks all for the Reply to my initial request for info.

It's funny to see that an old report of mine from Rio had next to it saves trip report from Cubanut in 2005 about MDE.

I'm starting to get the bigger picture here about MDE since there is no "Help" I just want to make the most out of my opportunity and not have to Hunt that hard. Break out the silver spoon please, cause I'll pay for convenience or drop a beer to say Thanks!

So, a little recap: There is no big Nightlife Tuesday-Thursday? Unless it is a Strip club? Which I don't mind I just want to get laid when I wake-up. If not LTE, after my lunch or siesta 2-5PM and the late night for a quick hour or LTE if she warrants and my stamina is up from 11pm-forward AM.

I want Quality not quantity but I also am not looking to throw the cash splash down to mark territory either, so do the Escort sites provide reliable hot ass like in picture, can I find independents that do it as well but cheaper and.

MOST Importantly whomever I do find to hook-up with, what's the best way to qualify if they will have a Killer Attitude for Fun and Pleasure without the Bullshit games of I'm sick, my Kids and so forth.

I'm stoked for my upcoming adventure and do appreciate the spoon feeding. I promise to pay it back where warranted and just for the record on GFE4Week, I meant pay for the work and then say "Kool Gringo, Pays well, respects the pleasure and just wants good times so if you have like minded FRIENDS. NOT you on Clock, who want to comeout and enjoy the festivities then I'm down for it. I recognize this is a business not looking to take advantage of hospitality.

I'll take all advice and insights you guys have![/QUOTE]Damn dude, I'm trying to be helpful but you seem to want to complicate things. I replied to your last post, look a couple pages back. I gave you the scoop, but you need to relax and follow the script. You only got a few posts and most guys don't want to give info to someone not established. Just go to Medellin and have fun its as simple as that. Any more questions will not be answered by me. Good luck.

Don't go to luna! It blows. Dude try to charge me 10k cover and 15k for a drink. Fuck that! I went there on a Thursday night, there were only 4 nenas. Booooo! There is a 24 hrs casa on La 33. They charge a 100k for 1hrs. And they take credit card. I thinks it's called Kassandra's. Very nice nanas!

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121652]Lets see, Mayorista, then maybe Luna Lunera. Man that does sound good. Maybe one day I will meet the famous LE and we can hunt together. One thing for sure if I don't want to pay the frieght at the high end spot, I know I may get lucky in the getto.

I see the tatt on Rickers girl's leg and now I must hunt her down if she is in Mayorista again. Por favor a first name would aid my quest. My PM box awaits. [/QUOTE]

Read my recent post. Medellin list posts. It might help!

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1121683]Thanks all for the Reply to my initial request for info.

It's funny to see that an old report of mine from Rio had next to it saves trip report from Cubanut in 2005 about MDE.

I'm starting to get the bigger picture here about MDE since there is no "Help" I just want to make the most out of my opportunity and not have to Hunt that hard. Break out the silver spoon please, cause I'll pay for convenience or drop a beer to say Thanks!

So, a little recap: There is no big Nightlife Tuesday-Thursday? Unless it is a Strip club? Which I don't mind I just want to get laid when I wake-up. If not LTE, after my lunch or siesta 2-5PM and the late night for a quick hour or LTE if she warrants and my stamina is up from 11pm-forward AM.

I want Quality not quantity but I also am not looking to throw the cash splash down to mark territory either, so do the Escort sites provide reliable hot ass like in picture, can I find independents that do it as well but cheaper and.

MOST Importantly whomever I do find to hook-up with, what's the best way to qualify if they will have a Killer Attitude for Fun and Pleasure without the Bullshit games of I'm sick, my Kids and so forth.

I'm stoked for my upcoming adventure and do appreciate the spoon feeding. I promise to pay it back where warranted and just for the record on GFE4Week, I meant pay for the work and then say "Kool Gringo, Pays well, respects the pleasure and just wants good times so if you have like minded FRIENDS. NOT you on Clock, who want to comeout and enjoy the festivities then I'm down for it. I recognize this is a business not looking to take advantage of hospitality.

I'll take all advice and insights you guys have! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1121619]Last time I picked a cab in La Mayorista to visit El Museo de Castillo (1 mile from Poblado) , the driver dropped me off at a place not even close to Castillo. Since then I write a cab ID number in my memo whenever I ride taxi, and make sure that the driver sees me doing it. I hope it will prevent a potential fraud (it may not).[/QUOTE]It's a big city and some drivers are clueless especially if it's away from the neighborhood they are it.

[quote=rodeo9112; 1121623]i have to agree with cubanut. prior to my first real trip to mde, i scrubbed this forum and (guide?) for the names of all the daytime casas, all the strip clubs, all the discos, all the malls, and all the best restaurants. armed with the addresses, i plotted them out on google maps and made a graphic that showed their locations, when they are open, what price to expect and the quantity of girls based on reviews. i did this over the course of only about 2 months. i stayed at a nice rental apartment based on research i did in that arena. i was prepared to use the subway system, having printed out routes and plotting the locations of the stations (but i ended up only using taxis). i visited 80% of the daytime casas (some didn't exist anymore or i couldn't find) , all but one of the major strip clubs and 1 disco over the course of 4-5 days. and, i went solo. so, when i asked to meet up with some guys to exchange info, i felt like part of the team, not a leech. you can get opinions from anyone (and some here, like cubanut, are worthwhile) , but, if you don't do your own homework, you'll never know what you're missing out on. one guy told me not to go to san diego because the girls sucked. i talked him and his crew into stopping by just to peek in for 10 minutes and i bought the first round-dude ended up loving the place and, i thought it had some pretty quality girls. bottom line: you have to do your homework in order to be able to ask intelligent questions, otherwise, those with the knowledge to help you will be reluctant to do so. the reason is because in order to understand how to maneuver a city, you should be familiar at least with what you are trying to get out of it. to do that, you just have to do what others have done. you learn this by reading the f-ing forum! that said, check out the maps of casas in medellin thread and go crazy! (disclaimer: my map is about 2 years old and may not be accurate anymore). happy mongering.

yippie kiyay,

rodeo[/quote]same here! mapping. pages and pages of info. going solo i was able to hit most of the list in less than a week. just to add, even if everyone says a place sucks. you should always check it out for yourself! everyone has different tastes.

Just a few thoughts about the Mayorista and it's chicas.

The Mayorista strip, with it's little bars, and restaurantes, and motels, and of course it's chicas, can be a fun and interesting place.

IMO at least 80 percent, maybe 90 percent of the chicas are non-doable, and even some of the more attractive chicas, as strange as it may seem, can be aloof and selective of their clients.

I ran into some dissapointed gringos on the strip this trip, who were inexplicably rejected by a couple of the Mayorista hotties.

It's strange, but they can be like that out there.

I've had some frustrating nights there too, seeing nothing special, or getting a cold rejection, however, I've also pulled some real cuties from the strip.

On this particular trip, I had my best time with a couple of these Mayorista chicas.

I've learned to be patient, be generous (which at the Mayorista means buy the chica some food or a yogurt or a drink or so, which may cost ya maybe 10K pesos. A good investment) and make a chica feel comfortable and get her to laugh.

If you're a non-spanish or a barely spanish speaking guy, don't expect to find a diamond out there to give you great GFE, you can though, still get a nice quickie.

If you can jive with a chica a bit and gain her confidence, you can surely have some great GFE times.

I brought several chicas from the Mayorista to my hotel (CB2) , and yes, they all incredibly had Cedulas.

We never talked about payment, though we both knew I was going to pay them.

Fun can be had at the Mayorista, though don't expect a beautiful, sweet GFE to just fall in your lap out there.

Good luck out there amigos.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1121785]Don't go to luna! It blows. Dude try to charge me 10k cover and 15k for a drink. Fuck that! I went there on a Thursday night, there were only 4 nenas. Booooo! There is a 24 hrs casa on La 33. They charge a 100k for 1hrs. And they take credit card. I thinks it's called Kassandra's. Very nice nanas![/QUOTE]I understand what he is saying and it pisses me off that Luna charges much more now for beer. But it's still hit and miss. When I go late nite on Thursday and or Friday there are usually like 15 chica's there around 1am. I never order beer me and my mate's order a 90, 000 bottle of vodka and split it 3-4 ways. They give us a pitcher of OJ with it. If I take a girl there, I tell them I am not paying 170, 000 a hour give me the 100, 000 price for a 1/2 hour. I bring condoms or they charge you 10, 000 for a 3 pack. Or I just party there and find out if she gets off at 3am, I tell her meet me at Mario brothers across the street and take her back to my place. Connie is a real gem in there, she can suck a dick like no one's bizness. If you like darker meat Lady there is hot, if you see nothing split.

Can you give me the exact address of Kassandra's? Same side of 33 as Luna or on the other side closer to Abi dos?

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1121662]Great photo though, I noticed that when you are in Brazil you kind of go for the more shapely types, that one had just the right amount of pechas, more than a mouthful is just wasteful, thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]Well you're right, I have sampled some of the more curvy bodies in Brazil, but my favorites are the flakitas or magrinhas (thin ones) as they say in Brazil.

This is my favorita in Brasil.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1121785]Don't go to luna! It blows. Dude try to charge me 10k cover and 15k for a drink. Fuck that! I went there on a Thursday night, there were only 4 nenas. Booooo! There is a 24 hrs casa on La 33. They charge a 100k for 1hrs. And they take credit card. I thinks it's called Kassandra's. Very nice nanas![/QUOTE]I was there a while back ago on a Friday night and it was great. At 10 PM they had the best Lesbo show I have ever seen. So good in fact that I had to take one of the actress's for a 100K spin.

As far as the cover, Fase Dose has one also. San Diego Grill is free so maybe you ought to try that venue. All the high end clubs are expensive for drinks and company. Why do you think I like the Centro Casas and Mayorista at night?

You are not the only fellow who has said Luna has went downhill, so I will not go there until the reports inprove.

Me and some buddies were there 4 times over the last 12 days. 1 night sucked. 1 was so-so and 2 were off the chart. Saturday night lesbo show was very good but the best part was chatting up one of the stars the next day at the Mansion SB Party. Couldn't take her as I had just finished a session but got her number for my next trip. I also have in mind the perfect girl to have her partner with. (Heh, heh)

Wednesday and Thursday had fewer chicas but still outnumbered customers. (more of a gringo crowd) Saturday had lots of locals but the seemed more into drinking and didn't pull that many girls.

Chicks were aggressive with LOTS of free lap dances that included sucking of tits and fingering. You don't get lap dances like that in the US unless you're Ben Roethlisberger. Hah.

Reef

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121836]I was there a while back ago on a Friday night and it was great. At 10 PM they had the best Lesbo show I have ever seen. So good in fact that I had to take one of the actress's for a 100K spin.

As far as the cover, Fase Dose has one also. San Diego Grill is free so maybe you ought to try that venue. All the high end clubs are expensive for drinks and company. Why do you think I like the Centro Casas and Mayorista at night?

You are not the only fellow who has said Luna has went downhill, so I will not go there until the reports inprove. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121826]Just a few thoughts about the Mayorista and it's chicas.

The Mayorista strip, with it's little bars, and restaurantes, and motels, and of course it's chicas, can be a fun and interesting place.

IMO at least 80 percent, maybe 90 percent of the chicas are non-doable, and even some of the more attractive chicas, as strange as it may seem, can be aloof and selective of their clients.

I ran into some dissapointed gringos on the strip this trip, who were inexplicably rejected by a couple of the Mayorista hotties.

It's strange, but they can be like that out there.

I've had some frustrating nights there too, seeing nothing special, or getting a cold rejection, however, I've also pulled some real cuties from the strip.

On this particular trip, I had my best time with a couple of these Mayorista chicas.

I've learned to be patient, be generous (which at the Mayorista means buy the chica some food or a yogurt or a drink or so, which may cost ya maybe 10K pesos. A good investment) and make a chica feel comfortable and get her to laugh.

If you're a non-spanish or a barely spanish speaking guy, don't expect to find a diamond out there to give you great GFE, you can though, still get a nice quickie.

If you can jive with a chica a bit and gain her confidence, you can surely have some great GFE times.

I brought several chicas from the Mayorista to my hotel (CB2) , and yes, they all incredibly had Cedulas.

We never talked about payment, though we both knew I was going to pay them.

Fun can be had at the Mayorista, though don't expect a beautiful, sweet GFE to just fall in your lap out there.

Good luck out there amigos.[/QUOTE]Good post. I love Mayorista for its seedy side and its completely safe. It has a serious drug under current and the chics look rough. Its like hanging in a zombie type place. But as you say their are some gems.

The funny part is the shutdown. The police roll up deep in trucks, the waitresses start grabbing chairs to close (while your drinking) and the rats that hang out in that fake garden in the middle of the street start to come out. When you see the rats its time to get your ass out of there.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121832]Well you're right, I have sampled some of the more curvy bodies in Brazil, but my favorites are the flakitas or magrinhas (thin ones) as they say in Brazil.

This is my favorita in Brasil. [/QUOTE]You know Ricker sometimes you can be very mean spirited. All these photos you have posted lately are driving us poor devils who are stuck in the snow nuts.

Spirit has not helped either as thier fares have went up big time this month. Of course my ace in the hole is all the Free Spirit miles I have gathered. Soon I will partake of the festivites.

I wonder if Diania and Sammy and Annie and Gloria are still around? If not I'm sure new talent is just around the corner.

Have fun man and I am grateful for the timely PM.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121836]I was there a while back ago on a Friday night and it was great. At 10 PM they had the best Lesbo show I have ever seen. So good in fact that I had to take one of the actress's for a 100K spin.

As far as the cover, Fase Dose has one also. San Diego Grill is free so maybe you ought to try that venue. All the high end clubs are expensive for drinks and company. Why do you think I like the Centro Casas and Mayorista at night?

You are not the only fellow who has said Luna has went downhill, so I will not go there until the reports inprove. [/QUOTE]Luna is hit and miss.

Go there too early and there's nothing, hit it right and it's fantastic.

Many guys sitting about the round table at the CB2 in the morning were raving about Luna just last week.

One good thing about Luna also is that the chicas don't have to pay a multa (fine) if they don't show up for work, as in Face Dos (where I believe it's 200k pesos for them).

This way if you hit it off with a chica at Luna, she can hang with you on future evenings without multa consequence.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1121845]You know Ricker sometimes you can be very mean spirited. All these photos you have posted lately are driving us poor devils who are stuck in the snow nuts.

Spirit has not helped either as thier fares have went up big time this month. Of course my ace in the hole is all the Free Spirit miles I have gathered. Soon I will partake of the festivites.

I wonder if Diania and Sammy and Annie and Gloria are still around? If not I'm sure new talent is just around the corner.

Have fun man and I am grateful for the timely PM. [/QUOTE]Hahahaha, I know amigo, I've been there and I feel your pain.

I'm just back from Medellin, and now with 3 days rest, I'm heading back to Brazil tomorrow to see this 'hot Chocolate'.

BTW, if you think the Mayorista and el Centro are good in Medellin, I could show you some spots in SP, Brazil, that I don't post about (call me selfish) , that would knock your socks off, and unbelieveably so, cheaper than the Mayorista.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1121785]Don't go to luna! It blows. Dude try to charge me 10k cover and 15k for a drink. Fuck that! I went there on a Thursday night, there were only 4 nenas. Booooo! There is a 24 hrs casa on La 33. They charge a 100k for 1hrs. And they take credit card. I thinks it's called Kassandra's. Very nice nanas![/QUOTE]No offense but handing over your credit card in a strip club or casa is beyond foolish, you are looking to get fucked and not in a good way.

Lets hook up tonight. Or name a spot for tomorrow. Last time I was in Medellin I had a great time at Luna. Lots of free NC-17 not xxx lap dances. I didn't see a show but the place had more of a party atmosphere than any other strip club I have gone. At least 4 very hot chicas prancing around out of about 15. Nice room and my very own enthusiastic chica who was determined to get me off two times. In spite of all the mixed reviews I will go tonight at around 11 until at least 12. Meet me there between those times if you can and I will hold off going into the room. I will be the young looking gringo with longish hair in the blue shirt. I second the motion that the restaurant across the street is the ideal hangover snack stop for meeting your take out paisa from the club. Don't get suckered into the take'out fee.

I'm here to tell you its as good as ever, I always regret not doing more. Just to advise any one, if you think about doing something. Don't hesitate you will regret not trying.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1121704]Damn dude, I'm trying to be helpful but you seem to want to complicate things. I replied to your last post, look a couple pages back. I gave you the scoop, but you need to relax and follow the script. You only got a few posts and most guys don't want to give info to someone not established. Just go to Medellin and have fun its as simple as that. Any more questions will not be answered by me. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Breathe man. LOL it was a whopping one post for claification and yes I'll hop on a plane and figure it out. Just was curious about the formal escort sites if they were scams or quality and how they matched to the casas and strip clubs. No complication here, like most times its a scavenger hunt hit or miss

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1121850]Hahahaha, I know amigo, I've been there and I feel your pain.

I'm just back from Medellin, and now with 3 days rest, I'm heading back to Brazil tomorrow to see this 'hot Chocolate'.

BTW, if you think the Mayorista and el Centro are good in Medellin, I could show you some spots in SP, Brazil, that I don't post about (call me selfish) , that would knock your socks off, and unbelieveably so, cheaper than the Mayorista. [/QUOTE]Brazil tomorrow? You know I don't mind sitting on top of your L. V. Luggage in the cargo hold of the G6 bro! .

Hey Palermo,

I never made it out last night. Appologies. But you know how it is down here. I had good reason.

these computers blow. just wrote a long report and i lost it. here are the cliff notes.

had a chica that i know back from mm show up last night and her attitude was bs so i asked her to leave. i immediately call another recomended chica who shows up semi prompty. all smiles agreable and looks great and smells great too. we play some games listen to music on the radio with hardly any commercials. ahh the power of ahving options as opposed to the states where you ahve to jump through rings of fire just to get a little acknowledgement. i was supposed to go to luna. sorry palermo but i was too busy having fun and games late into the evening. i plan to go tonight though. i will be the gringo wearring the signature blue shirt again. lol i love this place. i could seriously live here. there must be somebody willing to hire a professional from ny with a college education killer graphic design skill set, real world business experience and well on his way to speaking spanish. how does one go about scoring a great salary down here¿ this place is how life should be lived. easy and uncomplicated. example. i{m adventurous so i'm waiting for the bus. everyone smiles at me who is also waiting including 2 cute young ladies. the bus takes us up the mountian. one cutie turns around to scan the passengers and offers a gentle quick smile. that alone in nyc would make my day. with incredible views of the valled rep001tered with hi rises and mountains miles across, the city beckons to be explored. wow. so that cutie gets off the bus and turns and smiles at me again from the street. i was ready to stop the bus and follow her. i{m telling you, down here things are easy. for the most part, you can take things for face value. people are not defensive, very helpful and love to listen to me try to speak my very broken spanish. like the beatles wanted everyone to try pot, everyone should visit here and take a lesson in compassion and friendlyness.

If I am not staying at the Mansion, can I still call them to find some chicas they can refer? I am planning to visit Medellin in April. Afraid to stay at Mansion in case Mrs. Tried to google it.

[QUOTE=Tasty1;1122325]If I am not staying at the Mansion, can I still call them to find some chicas they can refer? I am planning to visit Medellin in April. Afraid to stay at Mansion in case Mrs. Tried to google it.[/QUOTE]Tried that they are not helpful they just want you to stay at their hotel so that they can make money and probable the girls they introduce you to will cost double,

Well I must say the tables have turned after hitting centro strip clubs and getting a few numbers I was able to score a couple of hot chicas who spent the whole night with me very good GFE. And cost half at what you would pay to the mansion to introduce you to girls or fase 2 or san diago. I say do it solo man its an adventure. Asking the mansion for help is like setting your self up to get ripped off!

[QUOTE=Play Ground; 1122361]Tried that they are not helpful they just want you to stay at their hotel so that they can make money and probable the girls they introduce you to will cost double,

Well I must say the tables have turned after hitting centro strip clubs and getting a few numbers I was able to score a couple of hot chicas who spent the whole night with me very good GFE. And cost half at what you would pay to the mansion to introduce you to girls or fase 2 or san diago. I say do it solo man its an adventure. Asking the mansion for help is like setting your self up to get ripped off! [/QUOTE]Kinda harsh statement, Every business in the free enterprise system should be profitable or it wouldn't continue to exist, I don't suppose I would want to run a free hook up service for every swinging dick that hit town! I totally agree that you can find better value in some other venues, however a lot of folks like one stop shopping, pre screened chicas, the atmosphere and the brotherhood. A lot of guys don't want to negotiate and yet everything is negotiable, I try to plan my trips around the same time as some good friends we usually share a three or four bedroom apt, cost per person per nite is much less expensive than going solo and staying at the CB's. But should I be going solo as I have in the past I wouldn't hesitate to stay there. I never had a bad time at the mansion. There are a number of guys in Medellin that are willing to help a newbie out but it usually comes at some sort of price. Personally I would recomend all of them, Frank Casio when he's in town, Colombia Jake, Medellin paisa, Life is all about perceived value, and I have a bit different perception, I don't think Boyd Robert Greg or any of the above mentioned are a "Rip Off"

[quote=play ground; 1122361]tried that, they are not helpful they just want you to stay at their hotel so that they can make money and probable the girls they introduce you to will cost double,

well i must say the tables have turned after hitting centro strip clubs and getting a few numbers i was able to score a couple of hot chicas who spent the whole night with me very good gfe. and cost half at what you would pay to the mansion to introduce you to girls or fase 2 or san diago. i say do it solo man its an adventure. asking the mansion for help is like setting your self up to get ripped off! [/quote]play ground,

it took a week to finally get something going. good for you. however, you could have stayed at the mansion and been running the moment you hit the ground.

sour grapes because they run a hotel and not an open bordello is not merited.

asking the mansion for help when you are a guest is 100% free. they have never charged a fee for any service regarding females. they only ask that you be a guest. sounds like a fair business deal to me.

as an example, if you fly with a certain air carrier you can't expect some other air carrier to give you their airmiles. get the picture?

you are not the first person to be a non guest yet ask for help or try to hang out at the mansion. i was there one time at the front desk when a fella showed up asking if he could just hang for a while. the staff politely advised him that aside from invited females, only guests (2 night minimum) were allowed on the premises. so it happens that he's about to leave when 4 hot looking paisas show up to hang at the mansion and next thing you know the fella is booking 2 nights at the mansion. i left but saw him later that night having a great time.

i saw the same fellow the next day and he had gotten several of the girls numbers already and would get more that day then leave the mansion since he had an apartment. not one time did he say that the mansion was a rip-off.

it's strange that so many guys that do not stay at the mansion seem to be the ones that have a problem with the mansion. i don't think many gringos want to waste time guessing their way through a vacation like you play ground.

whether it's help recommending the best casa girls or help inviting hot mansion girls, greg, robert, boyd and the staff are your best bet to start with.

cheers,

cubanut

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[QUOTE=Play Ground; 1122361]Tried that they are not helpful they just want you to stay at their hotel so that they can make money and probable the girls they introduce you to will cost double,

Well I must say the tables have turned after hitting centro strip clubs and getting a few numbers I was able to score a couple of hot chicas who spent the whole night with me very good GFE. And cost half at what you would pay to the mansion to introduce you to girls or fase 2 or san diago. I say do it solo man its an adventure. Asking the mansion for help is like setting your self up to get ripped off! [/QUOTE]My single visit at the centro strip clubs last year Las Americas and Maracaibo was disappointing, so so talent at best. Maybe it was an off night? Anyone else experience otherwise?

The mansions may have their issues but I enjoyed the solid talent level of their chicas and full GFE more commonly than not.

Some of the mansion chicas are also members of the dating site romancelatina dot com and a member there can contact them. I like the site as a source for prepago girls, and not just mansion girls. However its a numbers game and many or most of the prettier girls you might contact you won't get through to to actually meet. Some that have all the business they can handle at the mansion may not spend much time on the site despite having a profile, others just rotate in and out of prepago work or logging into the site depending on their money needs, boyfriends, other work etc, and some despite participating on the site in part for money only fuck guys they actually like or are attracted to.

[QUOTE=Play Ground;1122361]Tried that they are not helpful they just want you to stay at their hotel so that they can make money ...[/QUOTE]You got it, those guys are thieves, I can't believe those guys actually want to make money in their business that they've invested their time and resources in, that's just crazy!

Thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE=Play Ground;1122361]... Well I must say the tables have turned after hitting centro strip clubs and getting a few numbers I was able to score a couple of hot chicas who spent the whole night with me very good GFE. And cost half at what you would pay to the mansion to introduce you to girls or fase 2 or san diago. I say do it solo man its an adventure. Asking the mansion for help is like setting your self up to get ripped off![/QUOTE]Well good for you amigo, you had fun, you saved money and U-turned the tables on those greedy MFukkas there at the Mansion.
I can just imagine the depression of the guys over at the Mansion knowing that you broke the code.

Well done sir!

Quote from Palermo.

I did see maybe 3 that looked good, but the best one walked past quickly and kept going to god knows where by all the warehouses and factories in the next block (this was at about 11 pm).

My educated guess was she was going to buy a smoke or a quick pick me up.

Called Energy this afternoon and asked the lady on the phone how many girls she had, she said she had 8 girls, but of course she lied, when I got there 20 minutes later I only found 4. None of the four attracted me, but since I just popped one Cialis and had a hard on, I picked Tania who looked like a school girl with braces on. She gave me a nice massage that I really enjoyed, played with my cock and sucked my balls for a while, and then slipped a condom on my aroused dick and rode it cowboy style. I asked her for a kiss in mouth and tongue, she said that will be 20 thousand pesos extra. It was well worth it, Actually tongue kissing was the best part of the whole session. She can suck a golf ball out of a hose, and her sucking style was a stellar performance. She gave me horny looks while she enjoyed sucking my pole. Her tits weren't gigantic, but I am not a tit man anyway. Damage was $90, 000 pesos for the hour and $20, 000 for the girl who kissed me like I was her boyfriend.

After giving up looking for a generic Cialis, I went up one more block where Energy is at. There is a drug store that has an iron gate, I purchased a box that comes with 4 pills of original Cialis for 90, 000 Pesos, and asked the pharmacist to cut them for me into 4 quarters each.

Sure a business is a business BUT My self being a hotelo I differ in opinion when it comes to the mansion tactics. All hotels and airlines for sure offer help and yes they also share their air miles funny enough thats why their marketing and business do very well. My point here is that I believe the mansion can market themselves to various customers for instance their first priority is to sell their room but what if some one wants 5 star service and stay at other hotels can't it be possible for the mansion to have an evening fee for non guest or may be even themed nights where external NON GUESTS can network for a fee something like an entrance fee.

All hotels with amenities will have a day fee for guest not staying at the hotel for instance to use the pool, have lunch ect. Furthermore this can well benefit and may further expand the mansion business and move towards attracting various markets such as student low budget, middle 3 stars and 5 stars. There are tons of hot women in Medellin so why not offer them an opportunity to meet various pool of clients. That being said I fore see further competition for the Mansion in Medellin. As there are other toms dicks and harrys that will invest and promote new services and amenities.

Good luck to all

Play Ground off to bang 3 hotties,

[QUOTE=Play Ground; 1122652]Sure a business is a business BUT My self being a [B]hotelo [/B]I differ in opinion. Can't it be possible for the mansion to have an evening fee for non guest or may be even themed nights where external NON GUESTS can network for a fee something like an entrance fee.

All hotels with amenities will have a day fee for guest not staying at the hotel for instance to use the pool, have lunch ect. [/QUOTE]Yaaaaaaaaawn, an obvious troll looking for attention. No one can really be this stupid, pretty subtle which is nice.

And Mr Ground, if you are genuine I am sorry you are in Medellin and having a difficult time with the ladies, just like back home, right?

Occasionally we hear of this phenomenon. A saying comes to mind,"That guy could't get laid in a who-rehouse with a fist fulla $50s", is that you buddy? I'm sorry.

Hotels allowing unqualified shlubs to stop by are hotels that are trying to increase occupancy because they have empty rooms and an off season. (What's a hotelo? Is that short for dumbass?). The mansion is usually pretty booked, and the amenities such as the girls and the pool are sufficient maybe at times just enough for the paying guests.

¿They want to invite you, maybe you pay a fee. For WHAT?

How does that benefit the already booked Mansion?

How does it benefit the paying guests who are already there? You and your two buddies? 3 more sausages at the fest? What are you on glue?

Sure, stop by once a week for the Mansion freebie and recruit girls, get their numbers and take them out the next night. That screws the Mansion and the paying guests. But the world should feel sorry for you and your problem with the ladies? I don't think so.

Sure, the mansion is going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off their guests to help you with your problem. Why don't you stay there for 3 nights? That's the fee. They will even throw in a bed and a room, free of charge.

Problem solved

And while you're there I'll stop and make you wait to talk to and fuk the girls, me an outsider paying a 30K entrance fee. Sounds good to me!

And there you have it, your getting laid problem in a city with more hookers than taxis is solved once again.

[B]It's funny[/B] But with 15 casas, strip clubs galore, pre pagos all over the place, prostitutes on the streets in many areas not to mention this is a city with hot regular girls, that many of you still have a problem getting laid and mostly [B]all of you are constantly still looking for new venues. [/B]

Why is that? Am I missing something?

I live here and still can't make it to all these places!

Sometimes its just raw phuk. But after that it seems to me. I want that top fantasy. A girl that makes me get motivated. Doesn't matter pro or non pro. But 1 that might actually like me back. 99 percent chance it won't be in the USA My hunt is here where they are beautiful and not as spoiled, I think we all want that heart throbber. If we don't find it here, its a lot of fun searching.

Bocano,

You're looking in about the worst place imaginable. The girls in Medellin will not "like you back" any more than girls in the US. They are every bit as driven as women in the US to make a buck off of their sexuality. This goes double since they know you're just passing through.

MDE is a great place for sport-fucking. Unless you're actually living there and fluent en Espanol (added to being young and good-looking) , you'd be crazy to let your feelings get involved with these girls.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1123120]Bocano,

You're looking in about the worst place imaginable. The girls in Medellin will not "like you back" any more than girls in the US. They are every bit as driven as women in the US to make a buck off of their sexuality. This goes double since they know you're just passing through.

MDE is a great place for sport-fucking. Unless you're actually living there and fluent en Espanol (added to being young and good-looking) , you'd be crazy to let your feelings get involved with these girls.[/QUOTE]Hello, Combo, I always enjoy your posts, but I agree and disagree with this one. As someone who passes through, I find Medellin girls very friendly and caring. Sure I know its about the money and maybe a future life better than what they have, but I appreciate the temporary fantasy. Alot of Medellin girls I've hung out with are always disappointed when I don't go to their homes and have dinner with their families (I don't do families, to personal). I get the impression that they would rather have a caring relationship (con dinero). If you want quantity and sport fucking you will never get a personal touch (only buisiness).

But don't we owe it to our travel expirience to atleast invest in basic spanish lessons (its not hard) to enhance our adventure. You are correct, the guys that speak Spanish and live there have an advantage, but they also respect the culture more than a sport fucker would. If I was 30yo and looking for a wife Colombianas would be my first choice.

My last trip I had a girl who works at San Diego. In fact someone just did a report about fucking her but I could never put her name here, she's just to sweet. Anyway she made her daytime job me. I had banged her that day for an afternoon delight before work. Then I banged her after she danced that night. I told her to CALL me at 2pm. Well at 130pm I see her calling but I ignore her call. I'm chilling at the penthouse watching a Jersey Shore marathon when someone knocks on the door. I'm like"who got passed the security guard" and "no one knows I'm here". Its her and I was happy. She hung out, we ate pizza, wrestled, played tag, and fucked. She made herself a 2pm daily appointment and never once asked for money. I usually gave her 70usd and put it in her purse. Even though it was probaly about the money I appreciated her initiative. One thing about me is that if I got a good piece of pussy without the bullshit I lock in and enjoy it verses a sport fucker who usually has more "dead fish" fucks.

It can be done!

I.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1122977]Sometimes its just raw phuk. But after that it seems to me. I want that top fantasy. A girl that makes me get motivated. Doesn't matter pro or non pro. But 1 that might actually like me back. 99 percent chance it won't be in the USA My hunt is here where they are beautiful and not as spoiled, I think we all want that heart throbber. If we don't find it here, its a lot of fun searching.[/QUOTE]

First off, I want to thank everyone beforehand for all the insightful posts that I have been reading in Medellin reports. I am wanting to plan my first ever sexcation during the following days of either (March 3rd to March 8th) or (March 10th to March 15th). If anyone is there within that time frame please shoot me a PM because I would like to have some company because I will be traveling solo. A little about myself, Young 20s, college senior. 5'3 Chinese American, and on a budget. I have not fully read up on all the information I need to know about Colombia in general, but I am getting there.

Initially, I wanted to travel to Cartagena because I would prefer a beach atmosphere, however I have read / been told that CTG beaches arent worthwhile and it is quite expensive (ranging from $300-500 US per day). However, after reading the threads, I believe Medellin will be within budget and more fitting for a new monger like myself.

I'm not going to ask about the venues and casa's because I have read the post by World Travel 69 under Medellin's list. However I will be asking for some advice on how to get my monies worth while in MDE (thats if I do decide to go).

My plans are very similar to Surgicalrep's.

Ideal daily routine: Wake up, (hopefully morning sex everyday) , eat lunch, random activities (gym / pool / read) , afternoon sex, dinner, go out, and then some more sex. How can one live like this for a week while on a budget? I don't mind eating cheap food (McDs if I must) but I will ocassionally go out for some good meals. Long story short: most important is the sex and I'm looking for quality and for many sessions. Anyone care to throw out how much I'll be spending in 5 days?

My plans thus far:

1. Book at least two nights in CB1 or CB2 (any preferences?) to save me time and money to getting some action with some chicas ASAP. Before I arrive, I will call in advance to have a girl of my preference to be ready when I arrive)

2. My preference in a chica: I'm not going to lie, I'm an asian of small stature so I do look questionably young (17-18). So without the awkward appearance / thoughts of the pros, I prefer chicas that look young. Knowing that the legal age of consent for prostituion is 18, I am hoping for girls within the age of 18-20. Ie. Ones that look like Selena Gomez (she's 18 and I know its not going to happen but MDE is the closest one can get). I guess I am leaning towards non to semi-pros cause I am looking for some tight pussy. If I find one thats a perfect match, I might even ask her for GFE for the whole week (gfe4aweek is too much in my opinion). Though I do want to go for other girls. What are the chances of finding such chicas?

3. I have a feeling I might be one of the youngest guests (if not. Youngest looking, no offense) to ever encounter CB. During the stay there, will it even be fun being the youngest one? Don't get me wrong because I am a very laid back guy, I don't mind hanging out with people of all ages but I'm hoping to stay with those that go out and have fun while finding chicas to fuck.

4. Being a Chinese tourist (in reference to Hollow Man's posts) , will apparently attract a lot of attention. Is that a good thing in terms of finding some Street walkers? No, I don't plan on carrying around valuables.

5. I also plan on visiting the casas everyday, would you think SW is more worth it over casas (in terms of quality and cost)?

6. I will want to find an apt / hotel after my stay in CB, any suggestions for cost effective apts or places to stay?

Thank you all for the help and hope to have someone show me the ropes if I decide to go!

[QUOTE=CollegePusher;1123228]2. My preference in a chica: I'm not going to lie, I'm an asian of small stature so I do look questionably young (17-18). So without the awkward appearance / thoughts of the pros, I prefer chicas that look young. Knowing that the legal age of consent for prostituion is 18, I am hoping for girls within the age of 18-20. Ie. Ones that look like Selena Gomez (she's 18 and I know its not going to happen but MDE is the closest one can get). I guess I am leaning towards non to semi-pros cause I am looking for some tight pussy. If I find one thats a perfect match, I might even ask her for GFE for the whole week (gfe4aweek is too much in my opinion). Though I do want to go for other girls. What are the chances of finding such chicas?[/QUOTE]Quick adjustment: What I am mainly looking for: spinners

Back from Med!

Just got back from Medellin and had a ball!

Casas that are my favs!

Barcelona.

Calle 59 (Cuba) # 50-12.

Had my best sessions there. The owner is really nice and the spot is really clean. Nice Spot! They had about 6 nenas and about 4 are great lookin. This ratio is about the same at every place I comment about.

Angles de Fuegos.

Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 45D-104.

OMG some fine ass girls.

Zandaly.

Cra. 47 57a-34.

Shannons.

Calle 57 # 42-12.

Masajes de sexi.

Carrera 45d 57-67.

Relax / Camila.

Carrera 45 57-71.

* there are four casas on this street. All decent.

All these casas are really close to each other. Except for Barcelona which a long walk.

I was doing about 3 casas a day and the above one are the best.

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78.

Is kinda a casa.

You go in and the nenas are just seating there waiting for you to talk to them.

On this street there is two more place like Artesanias." el Patio" is a new one that recently.

Opened. Nice young ladies but the service is too mechanical. Also there a spot on this street that open at 7pm where all the girls from the local casas go to for extra money.

Night time.

Club America strip club.

Calle 53.

Two more strip club on this street. 50k for 30 min. Kinda mechanical but depends on the nena.

One the weekend Conejitas Bar Show, Carrera 52 # 53-03 has a lot of hot nenas. On this street walk to the right, a lot of bars that have freelancer that charge 20k for 30 min plus 10k room. But be careful, it is not safe around these streets. If you look like a tourist I wouldn't recommend walking this strip. Club hilton strip club has got a view girls that are hot especially 2 cute black nenas. (during the day these streets are busy with people but at night its really sketchy) Ima hispo so I blend in, but I still felt a little sketched out!

Club 44 near la 70 is cool two (had a nenas there with a pretty face and a great ass for just 80k for 40 min. Great!

After hours (after 2 am a lot of the girls from the strip club go there for extra money and partying. A lot of sniff sniff goin on!)

La manzana-I didn't go this time but last year when I went it was just ok.

Casa blanca. Went there for the first time and got BB right of the break! Sweet.

El deportivo- never been just heard about it.

They don't charge a cover but drinks are about 5k. 7k and 30k-60k for the nenas. The individual girl sets the price.

Just ask a cabby for the spots. I know casa blanca is of Oriental.

Donts.

Don't go to this one.

Luna Lunera Enlacex Club calle 33- tried to charge me 10 k to get in and 15k for a beer, with only 4 ugly nenas. Fuck that!

Overall great trip.

It helps a lot to speak spanish. Better services all around.

PS food-

I ate at " la escalera Rest" at bellavista mall on Oriental K46 just about everyday because its close to all the casas. Good food not greasy and didn't upset my stomach.

Peace out and good times!

If your on a budget, your hotel stays or going to be costly at CB1 or CB2. I now you want to fuck upon arrival so maybe for the first you might want to stay at cb. I recommend stayin at hotel Villa Real. CRA 70. Its right on a nice strip of bars and clubs. Its close to the metro el estadio and its really safe. Great staff, free wifi on every floor, free coffee, chica friendly for a couple of hrs. The best is on the weekends, some freelancer walk around this street. Just some young nenas that want to make some weekend money. (semipro).

All for $50, 000 p a night.

10min cab ride from downtown casas or just take the metro to Pablado which is the center of all the casas.

[QUOTE=CollegePusher; 1123228]First off, I want to thank everyone beforehand for all the insightful posts that I have been reading in Medellin reports. I am wanting to plan my first ever sexcation during the following days of either (March 3rd to March 8th) or (March 10th to March 15th). If anyone is there within that time frame please shoot me a PM because I would like to have some company because I will be traveling solo. A little about myself, Young 20s, college senior. 5'3 Chinese American, and on a budget. I have not fully read up on all the information I need to know about Colombia in general, but I am getting there.

Initially, I wanted to travel to Cartagena because I would prefer a beach atmosphere, however I have read / been told that CTG beaches arent worthwhile and it is quite expensive (ranging from $300-500 US per day). However, after reading the threads, I believe Medellin will be within budget and more fitting for a new monger like myself.

I'm not going to ask about the venues and casa's because I have read the post by World Travel 69 under Medellin's list. However I will be asking for some advice on how to get my monies worth while in MDE (thats if I do decide to go).

My plans are very similar to Surgicalrep's.

Ideal daily routine: Wake up, (hopefully morning sex everyday) , eat lunch, random activities (gym / pool / read) , afternoon sex, dinner, go out, and then some more sex. How can one live like this for a week while on a budget? I don't mind eating cheap food (McDs if I must) but I will ocassionally go out for some good meals. Long story short: most important is the sex and I'm looking for quality and for many sessions. Anyone care to throw out how much I'll be spending in 5 days?

My plans thus far:

1. Book at least two nights in CB1 or CB2 (any preferences?) to save me time and money to getting some action with some chicas ASAP. Before I arrive, I will call in advance to have a girl of my preference to be ready when I arrive)

2. My preference in a chica: I'm not going to lie, I'm an asian of small stature so I do look questionably young (17-18). So without the awkward appearance / thoughts of the pros, I prefer chicas that look young. Knowing that the legal age of consent for prostituion is 18, I am hoping for girls within the age of 18-20. Ie. Ones that look like Selena Gomez (she's 18 and I know its not going to happen but MDE is the closest one can get). I guess I am leaning towards non to semi-pros cause I am looking for some tight pussy. If I find one thats a perfect match, I might even ask her for GFE for the whole week (gfe4aweek is too much in my opinion). Though I do want to go for other girls. What are the chances of finding such chicas?

3. I have a feeling I might be one of the youngest guests (if not. Youngest looking, no offense) to ever encounter CB. During the stay there, will it even be fun being the youngest one? Don't get me wrong because I am a very laid back guy, I don't mind hanging out with people of all ages but I'm hoping to stay with those that go out and have fun while finding chicas to fuck.

4. Being a Chinese tourist (in reference to Hollow Man's posts) , will apparently attract a lot of attention. Is that a good thing in terms of finding some Street walkers? No, I don't plan on carrying around valuables.

5. I also plan on visiting the casas everyday, would you think SW is more worth it over casas (in terms of quality and cost)?

6. I will want to find an apt / hotel after my stay in CB, any suggestions for cost effective apts or places to stay?

Thank you all for the help and hope to have someone show me the ropes if I decide to go! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CollegePusher; 1123228]Long story short: most important is the sex and I'm looking for quality and for many sessions. Anyone care to throw out how much I'll be spending in 5 days?

I guess I am leaning towards non to semi-pros cause I am looking for some tight pussy. If I find one thats a perfect match, I might even ask her for GFE for the whole week (gfe4aweek is too much in my opinion). Though I do want to go for other girls. What are the chances of finding such chicas?

I also plan on visiting the casas everyday, would you think SW is more worth it over casas (in terms of quality and cost)?

I will want to find an apt / hotel after my stay in CB, any suggestions for cost effective apts or places to stay?[/QUOTE]First of all, how is your Spanish? It is important to be able to talk to chicas, ask what you want. Be able to bargain, ask for extras etc.

If you go to Casas basic price starts from about $15 for 30min in regular casas. If you need extra services you discuss it with the chica. From here you can estimate how much you are going to spend. You may also want to add taxi, driving around may add up.

Even though most casas girls are not what you want, but there are could be 1-2 chica out of 10 who will fit your taste. That has been the best for me to find chicas. Much better than some other, especially expensive options in MDE.

Also 5 days is very short time. You may want to start talking to chicas in advance, for example.

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com[/url]

There are lots of pros, nonpros, semi-pros. Some have their phone numbers right there. I think its a good idea to come prepared. And most important do not count on one single chica, they are not reliable. You got to have contact with as many as possible.

Renting an inexpensive apartment can be good to save money and privacy, but in CB (although it is more expensive) it is easy to find a company to do stuff.

Good luck!

Okay here is the plan for you. Stay at Casa Blanca 2 and take Boyd's tour at the casas. The prices there are pretty cheap. You can get a girl at Athena for about $20 for a lay. Also, bring a cell phone and get the girls phone numbers so that you can invite out on their days off, maybe Sunday. Afterwards, go rent a room at Tiger Paw Hostel after your stay at Casa Blanca 2. It is near Parque Lleras on Calle 10. As for you being Chinese, this might have been a big deal five years ago, but now Medellin is a city geared for tourism, and I have seen lots of people of color from the US, meaning Asian-Americans and African-Americans.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1123120]Bocano,

You're looking in about the worst place imaginable. The girls in Medellin will not "like you back" any more than girls in the US. They are every bit as driven as women in the US to make a buck off of their sexuality. This goes double since they know you're just passing through.

MDE is a great place for sport-fucking. Unless you're actually living there and fluent en Espanol (added to being young and good-looking) , you'd be crazy to let your feelings get involved with these girls. [/QUOTE]{ MDE is a Great place for sport-fucking. } Hey, that works for me.

All my feelings now are in my lower extremites.

You are mostly right, but it is Valentines day so lets keep the dream alive today.

[QUOTE=CollegePusher;1123238]Quick adjustment: What I am mainly looking for: spinners[/QUOTE]Well that changes everything, hahaha.

Amigo, my advice, quit trying to over plan your stay.

A basic, overall plan is all you need and then let the winds of love and lust take over.

Go to Medellin and the CB as planned, you already know about the casas and street girls, nobody cares if you're in you're 20's and a smaller guy or Chinese, all kinds of dudes go through that place.

Unless you're a total Schmuck, it's difficult not to have fun. '

Morning sex, afternoon sex, late night sex, it's all there.

Also IMO, you're smart as a first timer to stay at the CB or CB2.

Not only for their amenities and chicas but for the intel you"ll get just from shooting the bull with experienced guys around the breakfast table.

Relax, you've got a plan, just go and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1123203]If you can't get laid in the USA you have to be a real dumb ass. Hell my grandad is 78 and has a hot 50 year old! South America? Girls love to try to speak english and most of the brown ones want to mate and have a half white kid. No girl dreams about having another brownie! Getting laid in Colombia is easier than picking which one I want to bang! SAD. SAD. SAD. Hell when I leave here I'm going straight to Costa Rica to bang more non pros that I know! Maybe you should skinny up a bit.[/QUOTE]Not only do you show you're conceited here but you also show your racist side. I know a few dark, strong, muscular, well endowed brothers who say girls want a baby like them, strong (not some weak Brad Pitt want to be). I don't feed into that either. And the term you use"brownie" shows how corny you really are. No real cool dude would use that term.

Runner Up, you spell "site", sight, so I assume you are mentally challenged. That may explain the substance and tone of your posts. This is a forum about prostitution, which is paying for sex. People who come on here and constantly post, in a prostitution forum, about pulling freebies, we call "trolls".

[QUOTE=Runner Up;1123270]I wish we had to have our photos next to our usernames because this sight must be full of elephant men. I posted 7 down from here.[/QUOTE]Also post the IQ's, since you seem like a real wise guy.

[quote=chesrep001;1123302]runner up, you spell "site", sight, so i assume you are mentally challenged. that may explain the substance and tone of your posts. this is a forum about prostitution, which is paying for sex. people who come on here and constantly post, in a prostitution forum, about pulling freebies, we call "trolls".[/quote]as far as i know. a "troll" is someone who visits a board but hardly posts.

this forum is about sex. i think whether it's paid or not is irrelevant. both should be discussed.

imo, there is nothing wrong with pulling freebies. as was just discussed on another board too, assuming that every girl is a hooker and needs to be paid is wrong! like i said, i have no problems with it. i just have problems with the way someone people go about it. ex. promising them they are the only one. you want to marry them and take them out of the country, etc. just be truthful, the girls will respect you so much more!

Hey guy, relax man. I`ve lived here for 5 years I pay and get freebies. But since I`m a gentleman I pay even when I don`t have to. This girls are poor, they need help and I`m not going to exploit them by taking advantage of them. I go by their economic status. If they`re some rich bitches from Parque Lleras than I`m not to concern about putting some free hot cum up there ass, but if there from the rest of Medellin where the average person makes $250US a month, then I`m glad to help them out and not exploit them. But then, that`s just me!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1123320]I have no problem with paying for sex but it makes my skin crawl when I read a post that says you can't get laid in la la land without paying for it! These guys posting that crap "will never know what they don't know"

Babies made every second in this world and girls are flushing loads of cum down toilets every second in this world and they were not paid.

I post because I'm trying to keep guys that are worthy of not paying for ass from paying when they don't need to! I'm trying to keep my fellow americans from going to Colombia and being a retard and entering the sex trade.

Last time I checked this "site" is for sharing information world wide on traveling single males. Many of the forums have non pro sections. The Colombia froum doesn't but should.

I promise I will respond to any fool that posts you can't get laid in Colombia if you are a tourist. BS BS BS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goga Fung; 1123247]First of all, how is your Spanish? It is important to be able to talk to chicas, ask what you want. Be able to bargain, ask for extras etc.

If you go to Casas basic price starts from about $15 for 30min in regular casas. If you need extra services you discuss it with the chica. From here you can estimate how much you are going to spend. You may also want to add taxi, driving around may add up.

Even though most casas girls are not what you want, but there are could be 1-2 chica out of 10 who will fit your taste. That has been the best for me to find chicas. Much better than some other, especially expensive options in MDE.

Also 5 days is very short time. You may want to start talking to chicas in advance, for example.

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There are lots of pros, nonpros, semi-pros. Some have their phone numbers right there. I think its a good idea to come prepared. And most important do not count on one single chica, they are not reliable. You got to have contact with as many as possible.

Renting an inexpensive apartment can be good to save money and privacy, but in CB (although it is more expensive) it is easy to find a company to do stuff.

Good luck! [/QUOTE]My spanish is almost non-existent. I was pretty decent in spanish about 5 years ago. I know some basic verbs but If I do go on this trip, I am going to grab rosetta stone to try and brush up.

I have found a round trip ticket departing on March 1st and returning on March 9th for $380 (from Washington DC). I am highly considering this because I will have an 8 night stay in MDE, which is longer than what I expected. My budget is currently at $1500 max (including airfare and stay). I have been told that hotels in Mayorista can be $25 / night which would be very ideal for me so I can be somewhat picky on the girls. My main worry right now is my lack of spanish, and a place to stay after CB2. Thoughts?

I think I may actually follow this plan. I need to do more research on the hostels and places to stay after CB2.

RunnerUp,

You're not the only one that's gotten "freebies." I've done so in Rio, MDE, and other venues. My Espanol is more than pasable.

However, when I visit someplace for a week or so, I feel as if I'm wasting time pursing "non-pros." I would prefer to pay $20. $80 to bone them and then get them out of my hair. I don't like having chicks overnight. I can have a girlfriend in the US do that.

For me, MDE, Rio, BKK are for fantasy play (sport-fucking). The US is for dating.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1114007]your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.[/QUOTE]That's nice. Giving out 'grad degrees' in law enforcement now, are they.

I think you finally have some wisdom, nice to see some one treat the girls as people rather than sex wholes for once, they say people pretty much treat you as you treat them, so if you give the girl a few bucks extra even if she doesn't ask for it. She will sense this and if you have her for round 2, this means better sex, bjs or whatever you are into with a better attittude. With my great experience I find that a tough negotiation ruins the mood for worthwhile nice sex.

I think maybe I spend to much time on this board.

Anyway to answer most of the questions that new mongers have about MDE I will give my sage advice.

1. If you have little or no Spanish and have a decent amount of money to spend then don't even hestitate just book CB1 or CB2.

2. Use the ATM machines.

3. Use condoms.

4. Take taxis, don't walk in high risk areas at night.

5. Don't get drunk and flash money or wear gold chains or fancy watches.

6. Be nice to the girls.

7. This is probably the most important thing. Stay away from Mayorista. It has only fat and ugly women. I must have had countless girls there and have never had a good experence with any of them. They always over charge me and beg for tips and money to buy them smokes and other unnamed substances. It is very, very dangerous in this area. I have stayed there many nights in the past 3 years and I can't tell you all the times I have been mugged and ripped off. Most of the time I bring very little money when I go out as I know at the end of the night someone will have taken it from me.

I felt I had to write this as I have read many guys commenting on Mayorista who most likely have never set foot in that area. So take it from a long suffering Vet of this foul area, Please stay away.

More Chicas for me LOL Admit it I had you fooled for a minute.

[QUOTE=Combo; 1123443]RunnerUp,

You're not the only one that's gotten "freebies." I've done so in Rio, MDE, and other venues. My Espanol is more than pasable.

However, when I visit someplace for a week or so, I feel as if I'm wasting time pursing "non-pros." I would prefer to pay $20. $80 to bone them and then get them out of my hair. I don't like having chicks overnight. I can have a girlfriend in the US do that.

For me, MDE, Rio, BKK are for fantasy play (sport-fucking). The US is for dating. [/QUOTE]

That's fine and true for you, and like you say, guys that are just passing through for a week or so, but believe it or not, there are guys that return frequently or live or semi-live in Medellin or whatever fantasy destination that do like dating non-pros, having a girlfriend, and maybe dabble in the PFP as well.

I agree that quick visits are much more geared for the PFP, but some guys just aren't into dating in the US .. and I'm one of those guys :)

[QUOTE=Combo;1123120]

... You're looking in about the worst place imaginable. The girls in Medellin will not "like you back" any more than girls in the US ...

[/QUOTE]

I totally disagree. Different culture all together.
Unless you're a non-spanish speaking Schmooo, looking for love on Romance Latina, or at Face Dos, etc there are plenty of sweet, loving, nice girls in Medellin that just might "like you back".

[QUOTE=Frank Casio; 1123402]Hey guy, relax man. I`ve lived here for 5 years I pay and get freebies. But since I`m a gentleman I pay even when I don`t have to. This girls are poor, they need help and I`m not going to exploit them by taking advantage of them. I go by their economic status. If they`re some rich bitches from Parque Lleras than I`m not to concern about putting some free hot cum up there ass, but if there from the rest of Medellin where the average person makes $250US a month, then I`m glad to help them out and not exploit them. But then, that`s just me!

Frank Casio! [/QUOTE]Heya Frank, it was nice bumping into you and dining at Mayorista's finest restaurant with ya!

I agree with your 'modus operandi' with the chicas.

I subscribe to the same theory amigo.

See ya soon.

[QUOTE=CollegePusher; 1123435]My spanish is almost non-existent. I was pretty decent in spanish about 5 years ago. I know some basic verbs but If I do go on this trip, I am going to grab rosetta stone to try and brush up.

I have found a round trip ticket departing on March 1st and returning on March 9th for $380 (from Washington DC). I am highly considering this because I will have an 8 night stay in MDE, which is longer than what I expected. My budget is currently at $1500 max (including airfare and stay). I have been told that hotels in Mayorista can be $25 / night which would be very ideal for me so I can be somewhat picky on the girls. My main worry right now is my lack of spanish, and a place to stay after CB2. Thoughts?

I think I may actually follow this plan. I need to do more research on the hostels and places to stay after CB2. [/QUOTE]My advice:

1. In this map you can find the most popular "casas" in the downtown: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=107782794867282242747.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4&z=15[/url]

2. The station which is near to "las casas" is parque de berrio, not poblado.

3. Don't wear expensive clothing or jewelry. Please, do not wear shorts (all tourists wear shorts)

4. Don't walk alone at night. Take a cab or the metro.

5. There are lots of cheap restaurants such as: Kokoriko (fried chicken) , Frisby, Crepes & Waffles, presto. Exito and Carrefour are popular supermarkets.

6. Usually young people speak english, paisas are very friendly and willing to help others.

11. Staying the first days in Casa Blanca is a good idea they can help you a lot.

7. I would recomend you hotels located in sector Estadio. Laureles rather the ones in the Mayorista.

8. I you hit the mayorista, you should always use condoms. (this apply to las casas, too)

9. Poblado is kind of the safest area, (Parque Lleras if the best option to have some drinks) , and Envigado is also nice.

10. The are lots of sites offering "prepago services":

[url]http://masajistaspaisas.com/prepagos-medellin.html[/url]

[url]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/prepagos_medellin.php[/url]

[url]http://www.angelespaisas.com/acompanantes-medellin.php[/url]

11. The most important: Be nice to the girls.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me. BTW, I live in Medellíand. Damn, how lucky I am.

[quote=cubanut; 1122473]play ground,

it took a week to finally get something going. good for you. however, you could have stayed at the mansion and been running the moment you hit the ground.

sour grapes because they run a hotel and not an open bordello is not merited.

asking the mansion for help when you are a guest is 100% free. they have never charged a fee for any service regarding females. they only ask that you be a guest. sounds like a fair business deal to me.

as an example, if you fly with a certain air carrier you can't expect some other air carrier to give you their airmiles. get the picture?

you are not the first person to be a non guest yet ask for help or try to hang out at the mansion. i was there one time at the front desk when a fella showed up asking if he could just hang for a while. the staff politely advised him that aside from invited females, only guests (2 night minimum) were allowed on the premises. so it happens that he's about to leave when 4 hot looking paisas show up to hang at the mansion and next thing you know the fella is booking 2 nights at the mansion. i left but saw him later that night having a great time.

i saw the same fellow the next day and he had gotten several of the girls numbers already and would get more that day then leave the mansion since he had an apartment. not one time did he say that the mansion was a rip-off.

it's strange that so many guys that do not stay at the mansion seem to be the ones that have a problem with the mansion. i don't think many gringos want to waste time guessing their way through a vacation like you play ground.

whether it's help recommending the best casa girls or help inviting hot mansion girls, greg, robert, boyd and the staff are your best bet to start with.

cheers,

cubanut.

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[attach=config]146005[/attach][/quote]i completely understand the point that you and ricker are making. the mansion is a business and their only concern should be servicing paying customers. that being said, i'm going to medellin for the the first time on a two week vacation, and i'd like to spend 7-10 days at the mansion and then a few more at a more affordable apartment. i'd prefer not to book the apartment until i've spent a good week in medellin and gotten a lay of the land. do you think the staff would at the mansion (s) would be willing to recommend a good place to stay for the final portion of my trip? or is that asking too much of them?

I take issue with the proposition that you can't find love in Fase II. I have, but I just don't know how she feels about me.

Hey guys, I don't know you but I attend some of the conventions at the mansion every year. Just havn't bumped into you yet.

What I want to say is I agree with what you just wrote. The old saying "you get more flys with honey than you do with vinegar". Glad to see some you treat the girls with respect and get great value for it.

Started out by going to Angles de Fuegos, decent slection, maybe 10 girls working but I didn't feel it. I had one beer and adios.

Next went to Sexy. 45D. Slim pickins. The girls were more into the house puppy. Maybe 6 girls working. I sucked down one beer, chilled for about 20 mins and bounced.

New Life. Melany from Sexy at 45D Has moved, maybe 12 girls working, good selection but I once again didn't feel it. Another beer and adios.

Tonight I will visit either Fase Dos, San Diego or Loutron. The prices go up but maybe something will motivate me.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1123627]Hey guys, I don't know you but I attend some of the conventions at the mansion every year. Just havn't bumped into you yet.

What I want to say is I agree with what you just wrote. The old saying "you get more flys with honey than you do with vinegar". Glad to see some you treat the girls with respect and get great value for it. [/QUOTE]I guess that is great. If you don't mind attracting a filthy, disease-carrying insect which lives-in fact is born-around a pile on shit. LOL

That's so funny, Robby, you're killin' me!

[QUOTE=Robby Burns;1123697]I guess that is great. If you don't mind attracting a filthy, disease-carrying insect which lives-in fact is born-around a pile on shit. LOL[/QUOTE]I guess I cannot put two hyphens together make a dash, so, my comment should read as:

"I guess that is great. IF you don't mind attracting a filthy, disease-carrying insect which lives. In fact is BORN. Around a pile of shit." LOL.

Vinegar, on the other hand, is one of the healthiest things you can consume. Go figure!

That quote about "flies. And honey. And vinegar" needs to be retired. It doesn't make any sense.

It's kind of like calling someone "a pansy" when you are trying to insult them. What is the TOUGHEST flower in the garden during the wintertime? The only one that blooms in all its robust colors? All together now.

Spent a couple of hours yesterday at Atena. It is my favorite place. Choo choo has put in a 36 inch high def next to the bar. An easy way to pass a couple of hours between sessions. The bummer he only had 5 girls when I was there but three were doable. And I did. Around 7pm I went to New Life and pulled Katarina. A good session plus the house guy comped my beer. Maybe he felt sorry for the lonely gringo on Valentines. By the way. There is a place near Parque Periodista that has live jazz on Mon and Sat that is not bad.

HB

That salsa place you are talking about, near Parque Periodista, must be the Eslabón Prendido. How it is? What's it like?

Since your budget is $1100 for 8 nights in Medellin, you better (have to?) stay in cheap hotels. Stay at hotels in Mayorista or El Centro. Hotel Crystal is close to casas in Centro, and I believe they charge around $25. Hotels in Mayorista cost between $15-25. I recommend staying in Mayorista first. After you get up and eat breakfast and / or lunch, you take metro and go to casas in Centro. You can go to strip clubs later. In the evening, you go back to mayorista and you can bring girls to your hotel. If you find that you do not like Mayorista in the 1st night, you can move to a hotel in El centro next day.
As for Spanish, just get a book and start learning "now". If you really try, you can learn basics in one week.

[QUOTE=CollegePusher; 1123435]My spanish is almost non-existent. I was pretty decent in spanish about 5 years ago. I know some basic verbs but If I do go on this trip, I am going to grab rosetta stone to try and brush up.

I have found a round trip ticket departing on March 1st and returning on March 9th for $380 (from Washington DC). I am highly considering this because I will have an 8 night stay in MDE, which is longer than what I expected. My budget is currently at $1500 max (including airfare and stay). I have been told that hotels in Mayorista can be $25 / night which would be very ideal for me so I can be somewhat picky on the girls. My main worry right now is my lack of spanish, and a place to stay after CB2. Thoughts?

I think I may actually follow this plan. I need to do more research on the hostels and places to stay after CB2. [/QUOTE]

OOPS! Hi Reefski, you should have copied the entire quote to put in in context!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1123628]Frank, you're such a romantic. Perfect for a Valentines Day post. LOL.

Reef[/QUOTE]

i had been wanting to avail myself of a massage, at lina`s massage at la mayorista. i wanted a therapeutic massage for an hour and then the full body massage for another hour. when i went the, therap. massage girl had left and the other girl seemed too serious and as if she was avoiding me. well today i stopped by again and my back was really hurting. only the full body massage girl was there, but she talked to me this time and she turned out to be really sweet. i asked her if she could give me a mixed massage, and she said that`s what she did. to my surprise she turned out to be also a therap. massager and had studied six month for it. she rubbed oil all over my body, it smelled so good. after half an hour of that i asked her to romove her clothes and another big surprise, a beautiful body under those clothes. she was obviously not a pro as she started shaking when i went down on her. i felt like it was her first time or first time in a while. i came a lot quicker than i wanted to. with the oil and stuff i couldn`t hold back. i felt like keeping her to myself, ha, ha, but realized i can`t keep every nice "cutie" for myself in medellin, not enough "leche", and it wouldn`t be fair to her or my friend wilson either.

i called my friend p and he ran downstairs for the new experience. he just called me to thank me, and gave her a 20, 000cop tip. she was great. i feel so good, so good, and my back feels better. but i did not tip her that much!

frank casio!

[quote=frank casio; 1103098]hi guys,

my friend wilson, manager / owner, of hotel monterrey and el encuentro del tio restaurant on la mayorista strip is openning a therapeutic massage and full massage parlor right next to el encuentro del tio restaurant, but on the back street. he'll have a proffessional therapeutic massage proffessional along with a few full massage girls. they will also do facials, hands and feet, specially katering to you guys. if all goes well he will be oppenning more. the charge will be $60kcop for an hour wether you do a normal therapeutic massage or the "full sexy massage", privacy guaranteed. there will also be internet in waiting area.

frank casio![/quote]

i had been wanting to avail myself of a massage at lina`s massage in la mayorista. i wanted a therapeutic massage for an hour and then the full body massage for another hour. but when i went there, the therap. massage girl had left and the other girl seemed too serious and also seemed like she was avoiding me. well, today i stopped by again and my back was really hurting. only the full body massage girl was there, but she talked to me this time and she turned out to be really sweet. i havn`t learned in 5 years here not to judged them because they seem serious, she turned out to be just shy.

i asked her if she could give me a mixed massage, and she said that`s what she did. to my surprise she turned out to be also a therap. massager and had studied six month for it. she rubbed oil all over my body, it smelled so good. after half an hour of that i asked her to romove her clothes, and another big surprise, a beautiful body under those clothes. she was obviously not a pro as she started shaking when i went down on her. i felt like it was her first time or first time in a while. i came a lot quicker than i wanted to. with the oil and stuff i couldn`t hold back. i felt like keeping her to myself, ha, ha, but realized i can`t keep every nice "cutie" for myself in medellin, not enough "leche", and it wouldn`t be fair to her or my friend wilson either. her name is vivi, by the way!

i called my friend and my place guest p. and he ran downstairs for the new experience. he just called me to thank me, and gave her a 20, 000cop tip. she was great. i feel so good, so good, and my back feels better. but i did not tip her that much! p. knows not to spoil la mayorista girls that much, so he must have been really impressed, but she was worth every bit of the large tip, i'm sure.

frank casio!

[quote=frank casio; 1103098]hi guys,

my friend wilson, manager / owner, of hotel monterrey and el encuentro del tio restaurant on la mayorista strip is openning a therapeutic massage and full massage parlor right next to el encuentro del tio restaurant, but on the back street. he'll have a proffessional therapeutic massage proffessional along with a few full massage girls. they will also do facials, hands and feet, specially katering to you guys. if all goes well he will be oppenning more. the charge will be $60kcop for an hour wether you do a normal therapeutic massage or the "full sexy massage", privacy guaranteed. there will also be internet in waiting area.

frank casio! [/quote]

i had been wanting to avail myself of a massage at lina`s massage in la mayorista. i wanted a therapeutic massage for an hour and then the full body massage for another hour. but when i went there, the therap. massage girl had left and the other girl seemed too serious and also seemed like she was avoiding me. well, today i stopped by again and my back was really hurting. only the full body massage girl was there, but she talked to me this time and she turned out to be really sweet. i havn`t learned in 5 years here not to judged them because they seem serious, she turned out to be just shy.

i asked her if she could give me a mixed massage, and she said that`s what she did. to my surprise she turned out to be also a therap. massager and had studied six month for it. she rubbed oil all over my body, it smelled so good. after half an hour of that i asked her to romove her clothes, and another big surprise, a beautiful body under those clothes. she was obviously not a pro as she started shaking when i went down on her. i felt like it was her first time or first time in a while. i came a lot quicker than i wanted to. with the oil and stuff i couldn`t hold back. i felt like keeping her to myself, ha, ha, but realized i can`t keep every nice "cutie" for myself in medellin, not enough "leche", and it wouldn`t be fair to her or my friend wilson either. her name is vivi, by the way!

i called my friend and my place guest p. and he ran downstairs for the new experience. he just called me to thank me, and gave her a 20, 000cop tip. she was great. i feel so good, so good, and my back feels better. but i did not tip her that much! p. knows not to spoil la mayorista girls that much, so he must have been really impressed, but she was worth every bit of the large tip.

frank casio!

[quote=frank casio; 1103098]hi guys,

my friend wilson, manager / owner, of hotel monterrey and el encuentro del tio restaurant on la mayorista strip is openning a therapeutic massage and full massage parlor right next to el encuentro del tio restaurant, but on the back street. he'll have a proffessional therapeutic massage proffessional along with a few full massage girls. they will also do facials, hands and feet, specially katering to you guys. if all goes well he will be oppenning more. the charge will be $60kcop for an hour wether you do a normal therapeutic massage or the "full sexy massage", privacy guaranteed. there will also be internet in waiting area.

frank casio! [/quote]

[QUOTE=Robby Burns; 1123701]I guess I cannot put two hyphens together make a dash, so, my comment should read as:

"I guess that is great. IF you don't mind attracting a filthy, disease-carrying insect which lives. In fact is BORN. Around a pile of shit." LOL.

Vinegar, on the other hand, is one of the healthiest things you can consume. Go figure!

That quote about "flies. And honey. And vinegar" needs to be retired. It doesn't make any sense.

It's kind of like calling someone "a pansy" when you are trying to insult them. What is the TOUGHEST flower in the garden during the wintertime? The only one that blooms in all its robust colors? All together now. [/QUOTE]Thanks, that was such an insightful post.

I mint Prado metro station, not Pablado.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77; 1123244]If your on a budget, your hotel stays or going to be costly at CB1 or CB2. I now you want to fuck upon arrival so maybe for the first you might want to stay at cb. I recommend stayin at hotel Villa Real. CRA 70. Its right on a nice strip of bars and clubs. Its close to the metro el estadio and its really safe. Great staff, free wifi on every floor, free coffee, chica friendly for a couple of hrs. The best is on the weekends, some freelancer walk around this street. Just some young nenas that want to make some weekend money. (semipro).

All for $50, 000 p a night.

10min cab ride from downtown casas or just take the metro to Pablado which is the center of all the casas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1123301]Not only do you show you're conceited here but you also show your racist side. I know a few dark, strong, muscular, well endowed brothers who say girls want a baby like them, strong (not some weak Brad Pitt want to be). I don't feed into that either. And the term you use"brownie" shows how corny you really are. No real cool dude would use that term.[/QUOTE]Runner Up is a self proclaimed millionaire who speaks like a hick who is here on a sex form, according to him, in order to get "travel Information".

I already called him out last time here and he didn't respond. No surprise.

Him, conceited? I thought his posts made him look just the opposite, embarrassing actually.

Any guy with real game doesn't walk constantly repeating and repeating ,"I've got game! I've got game! I get laid!" over and over on a forum or anywhere. Think about it. The question is why does he need to impress us? Why is he here trolling for approval from guys like us who have their shit together?

He has issues, poor guy so,

Please go easy on this hick from Skokie as he is only banging skanks and does not get quality women. If he thinks he does or is too stupid to know the difference good for him.

And Skokie, I mean Runner Up, if you are reading this – "good job, you are so money, who's better than you big guy! You've got my approval brother!"

(even though he makes an ass out of himsself all by himself usually my posts keep him a away for about a month)

[QUOTE=Frank Casio; 1123402]Hey guy, relax man. I`ve lived here for 5 years I pay and get freebies. But since I`m a gentleman I pay even when I don`t have to. This girls are poor, they need help and I`m not going to exploit them by taking advantage of them. I go by their economic status. If they`re some rich bitches from Parque Lleras than I`m not to concern about putting some free hot cum up there ass, but if there from the rest of Medellin where the average person makes $250US a month, then I`m glad to help them out and not exploit them. But then, that`s just me!

Frank Casio! [/QUOTE]Frank, I don't care what anybody says about you, you are a class act!

Well, in all my visits here this was my first trip here. So this is where a good selection of hot women can be found. Nice. Entry was 10 COP. 1 beer 18 COP (may have been 2 COP added but I didn't debate it). Several hot dancers and about 30 women sitting around on the prowl. I stayed about 2 hours, enjoyed the strip show. I would say 75-80% of the women sitting did not get picked up. Could it be pricing (170 COP +-)? Most were content with having a good time and customers buying them drinks. Most of the locals as I, had a few cold ones and watched the show. For me I could not justify what they were asking for when I know you can always find a jewel in far less pricey places.

Worth a visit if this is your scene. Enjoy!

[quote=frank casio; 1123734]i had been wanting to avail myself of a massage, at lina`s massage at la mayorista. i wanted a therapeutic massage for an hour and then the full body massage for another hour. when i went the, therap. massage girl had left and the other girl seemed too serious and as if she was avoiding me. well today i stopped by again and my back was really hurting. only the full body massage girl was there, but she talked to me this time and she turned out to be really sweet. i asked her if she could give me a mixed massage, and she said that`s what she did. to my surprise she turned out to be also a therap. massager and had studied six month for it. she rubbed oil all over my body, it smelled so good. after half an hour of that i asked her to romove her clothes and another big surprise, a beautiful body under those clothes. she was obviously not a pro as she started shaking when i went down on her. i felt like it was her first time or first time in a while. i came a lot quicker than i wanted to. with the oil and stuff i couldn`t hold back. i felt like keeping her to myself, ha, ha, but realized i can`t keep every nice "cutie" for myself in medellin, not enough "leche", and it wouldn`t be fair to her or my friend wilson either.

i called my friend p and he ran downstairs for the new experience. he just called me to thank me, and gave her a 20, 000cop tip. she was great. i feel so good, so good, and my back feels better. but i did not tip her that much!

frank casio! [/quote]thats great frank, always nice to hear about new services in la mayorista.

i sure hope they are open in the daytime as i would be afraid to be in that area at night. now if this establishment was in poblado where no one has ever had a problem then it would make me feel much more secure.

Saw this posted elsewhere and thought it was interesting. I have many friends that have lived in both cities and all but two have come back as they prefer the women and lifestyle in Lima.

First Trip to Lima.

I just got back last week from my first trip to Peru and wanted to share some of my experiences. I've travelled to quite a few countries in South and Cental America including Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, , Ecuador, Costa Rica, and Panama. Every place is unique and different and my favorite place for the last few years has been to stay at the Medellin Mansion. It is always tempting to head back to Medellin, but I've decided I need to broaden my horizons and try new places. I was very glad that I decided to vist Lima.

Lima is a beautiful city with many parks. The area I stayed in, Mira Flores, is very upscale with any convenience you need. There are wonderful restaurants and great places to walk. My favorite was along the cliffs above the beaches. It has absolutely stunning views. I felt very safe, even late at night, walking around the area. It also has a significant tourist industry. I took two tours on Mirabus, one to the old downtown historical area and one to the Inca pyramids just to the south of town. I enjoy having something different to do during the day and there are many, many options in Lima. This is somewhat different from Medellin, which is a lovely city, but has little new to see after being there a few times.

I stayed at the Marisa Luisa Hotel after reading recommendations on the board. Overall, I would recommend the hotel for mongers, although there were a few problems. The biggest issue was that there is a new building being built next door to the hotel and the constuction noise starts at dawn and goes until dusk (except Sunday). I would recommend getting earplugs. The hotel rate for a junior suite also changed several times. Initially, I sent a request for a reservation back at the beginning of December and the rate on the website was $100 soles per night. The hotel replied that the rate was going up to $120 soles per night after the first of the year. I replied that this was fine, but when I arrived, the rate was $130 soles. This is still only about $48 per night which isn't outrageous, but the changes were a little irritating. The hotel doesn't take credit cards, so it is necessary to pay in cash. The hotel location is excellent. It is only about two blocks from Parque Kennedy and is close to everything. The junior suite wasn't luxurious, but was adequate. The drinks from the minibar were only $3 soles each. The hotel doesn't have air conditioning, but there was a fan in the bedroom which was all that was really needed this time of year. There was also a computer for free use in the lobby which was handy since I don't carry a laptop. I had no issues bringing girls up to the room. They merely left their I'd at the desk and there was no additional charge.

As for the girls. I was somewhat worried when I first planned my trip to Lima. I had heard that the Peruvian girls weren't as pretty as the girls in Colombia. However, I was very pleasantly surprised otherwise. While there may be more beautiful women in total in Colombia, there are still many, many girls in Peru that are just as pretty as any in Medellin. I relied on David to arrange girls for me for two nights and both were absolute gems. They were both beautiful and sweet with no time pressures at all. I think they were some of the best girlfriend experinces I've had on any of my trips. I was hoping to repeat with both girls, unfortunately circumstances prevented this (more later). I can't say enough good things about David. He provided me with all kinds of great information prior to my arrival and arranged both of the girls even though he was getting ready to leave on vacation to Asia.

Unfortunately, the last few days of my trip went downhill due to being very sick. The guidebook recommends drinking bottled water, asking for drinks without ice, and brushing your teeth with bottled water. I do only drink bottled water when travelling, but neglected to follow the last two rules. The stomach virus I picked up was quite unpleasant. In addition to the normal stomach problems, I had a fever, cold sweats, and wasn't able to eat for three days. I bought an antibiotic at the Pharmacy (no prescription necessary) and started to feel better eventually. However, I was too exhausted and sick to even think of women the last few days. It is a shame because I wanted to repeat with both of the girls I met through David and also wanted to try the massage place called Relax why Vida which I have heard recommended. Next time, I'll be more careful and do without ice in my drinks.

In summary, I would highly recommend Lima. In addition to the beautiful women, there is also so much else to enjoy about the city. In fact, I had planned a trip to Medellin over the Summer, but have now decided I wish to return to Lima instead. Next time I want to stay at least ten days and hopefully take a trip to Machu Pichu as well. Lima is my new favorite destination.

Again, Thank you David for making my first trip to Peru so enjoyable. I'll be back soon.

What strikes me as interesting is now ST mongers are saying the same thing. Any thoughts by the guys (Palermo / thomasab) others who have traveled to both?

[QUOTE=Lima Busy; 1124004]Saw this posted elsewhere and thought it was interesting. I have many friends that have lived in both cities and all but two have come back as they prefer the women and lifestyle in Lima.

First Trip to Lima.

I just got back last week from my first trip to Peru and wanted to share some of my experiences. I've travelled to quite a few countries in South and Cental America including Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, , Ecuador, Costa Rica, and Panama. Every place is unique and different and my favorite place for the last few years has been to stay at the Medellin Mansion. It is always tempting to head back to Medellin, but I've decided I need to broaden my horizons and try new places. I was very glad that I decided to vist Lima.

Lima is a beautiful city with many parks. The area I stayed in, Mira Flores, is very upscale with any convenience you need. There are wonderful restaurants and great places to walk. My favorite was along the cliffs above the beaches. It has absolutely stunning views. I felt very safe, even late at night, walking around the area. It also has a significant tourist industry. I took two tours on Mirabus, one to the old downtown historical area and one to the Inca pyramids just to the south of town. I enjoy having something different to do during the day and there are many, many options in Lima. This is somewhat different from Medellin, which is a lovely city, but has little new to see after being there a few times.

I stayed at the Marisa Luisa Hotel after reading recommendations on the board. Overall, I would recommend the hotel for mongers, although there were a few problems. The biggest issue was that there is a new building being built next door to the hotel and the constuction noise starts at dawn and goes until dusk (except Sunday). I would recommend getting earplugs. The hotel rate for a junior suite also changed several times. Initially, I sent a request for a reservation back at the beginning of December and the rate on the website was $100 soles per night. The hotel replied that the rate was going up to $120 soles per night after the first of the year. I replied that this was fine, but when I arrived, the rate was $130 soles. This is still only about $48 per night which isn't outrageous, but the changes were a little irritating. The hotel doesn't take credit cards, so it is necessary to pay in cash. The hotel location is excellent. It is only about two blocks from Parque Kennedy and is close to everything. The junior suite wasn't luxurious, but was adequate. The drinks from the minibar were only $3 soles each. The hotel doesn't have air conditioning, but there was a fan in the bedroom which was all that was really needed this time of year. There was also a computer for free use in the lobby which was handy since I don't carry a laptop. I had no issues bringing girls up to the room. They merely left their I'd at the desk and there was no additional charge.

As for the girls. I was somewhat worried when I first planned my trip to Lima. I had heard that the Peruvian girls weren't as pretty as the girls in Colombia. However, I was very pleasantly surprised otherwise. While there may be more beautiful women in total in Colombia, there are still many, many girls in Peru that are just as pretty as any in Medellin. I relied on David to arrange girls for me for two nights and both were absolute gems. They were both beautiful and sweet with no time pressures at all. I think they were some of the best girlfriend experinces I've had on any of my trips. I was hoping to repeat with both girls, unfortunately circumstances prevented this (more later). I can't say enough good things about David. He provided me with all kinds of great information prior to my arrival and arranged both of the girls even though he was getting ready to leave on vacation to Asia.

Unfortunately, the last few days of my trip went downhill due to being very sick. The guidebook recommends drinking bottled water, asking for drinks without ice, and brushing your teeth with bottled water. I do only drink bottled water when travelling, but neglected to follow the last two rules. The stomach virus I picked up was quite unpleasant. In addition to the normal stomach problems, I had a fever, cold sweats, and wasn't able to eat for three days. I bought an antibiotic at the Pharmacy (no prescription necessary) and started to feel better eventually. However, I was too exhausted and sick to even think of women the last few days. It is a shame because I wanted to repeat with both of the girls I met through David and also wanted to try the massage place called Relax why Vida which I have heard recommended. Next time, I'll be more careful and do without ice in my drinks.

In summary, I would highly recommend Lima. In addition to the beautiful women, there is also so much else to enjoy about the city. In fact, I had planned a trip to Medellin over the Summer, but have now decided I wish to return to Lima instead. Next time I want to stay at least ten days and hopefully take a trip to Machu Pichu as well. Lima is my new favorite destination.

Again, Thank you David for making my first trip to Peru so enjoyable. I'll be back soon.

What strikes me as interesting is now ST mongers are saying the same thing. Any thoughts by the guys (Palermo / thomasab) others who have traveled to both? [/QUOTE]Nice LB, what are you kinda slow business wise where you felt the need to post this in the MDE thread? Common now I know you like the occasional "back pat" LOL I love Peru, I love the food (best in Latin America IMHO) , nice people, amazing culture and sure you can find beautiful girls in any country. I have seen many many many head turners in Peru from Puno, Iquitos to Tumbes. Its just Medellin is the "IT" spot right now. I think people know where to find the Peru and Lima section if they find the need to utilize it.

[QUOTE=Lima Busy; 1124004]Saw this posted elsewhere and thought it was interesting. I have many friends that have lived in both cities and all but two have come back as they prefer the women and lifestyle in Lima.

First Trip to Lima.

I just got back last week from my first trip to Peru and wanted to share some of my experiences. I've travelled to quite a few countries in South and Cental America including Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, , Ecuador, Costa Rica, and Panama. Every place is unique and different and my favorite place for the last few years has been to stay at the Medellin Mansion. It is always tempting to head back to Medellin, but I've decided I need to broaden my horizons and try new places. I was very glad that I decided to vist Lima.

Lima is a beautiful city with many parks. The area I stayed in, Mira Flores, is very upscale with any convenience you need. There are wonderful restaurants and great places to walk. My favorite was along the cliffs above the beaches. It has absolutely stunning views. I felt very safe, even late at night, walking around the area. It also has a significant tourist industry. I took two tours on Mirabus, one to the old downtown historical area and one to the Inca pyramids just to the south of town. I enjoy having something different to do during the day and there are many, many options in Lima. This is somewhat different from Medellin, which is a lovely city, but has little new to see after being there a few times.

I stayed at the Marisa Luisa Hotel after reading recommendations on the board. Overall, I would recommend the hotel for mongers, although there were a few problems. The biggest issue was that there is a new building being built next door to the hotel and the constuction noise starts at dawn and goes until dusk (except Sunday). I would recommend getting earplugs. The hotel rate for a junior suite also changed several times. Initially, I sent a request for a reservation back at the beginning of December and the rate on the website was $100 soles per night. The hotel replied that the rate was going up to $120 soles per night after the first of the year. I replied that this was fine, but when I arrived, the rate was $130 soles. This is still only about $48 per night which isn't outrageous, but the changes were a little irritating. The hotel doesn't take credit cards, so it is necessary to pay in cash. The hotel location is excellent. It is only about two blocks from Parque Kennedy and is close to everything. The junior suite wasn't luxurious, but was adequate. The drinks from the minibar were only $3 soles each. The hotel doesn't have air conditioning, but there was a fan in the bedroom which was all that was really needed this time of year. There was also a computer for free use in the lobby which was handy since I don't carry a laptop. I had no issues bringing girls up to the room. They merely left their I'd at the desk and there was no additional charge.

As for the girls. I was somewhat worried when I first planned my trip to Lima. I had heard that the Peruvian girls weren't as pretty as the girls in Colombia. However, I was very pleasantly surprised otherwise. While there may be more beautiful women in total in Colombia, there are still many, many girls in Peru that are just as pretty as any in Medellin. I relied on David to arrange girls for me for two nights and both were absolute gems. They were both beautiful and sweet with no time pressures at all. I think they were some of the best girlfriend experinces I've had on any of my trips. I was hoping to repeat with both girls, unfortunately circumstances prevented this (more later). I can't say enough good things about David. He provided me with all kinds of great information prior to my arrival and arranged both of the girls even though he was getting ready to leave on vacation to Asia.

Unfortunately, the last few days of my trip went downhill due to being very sick. The guidebook recommends drinking bottled water, asking for drinks without ice, and brushing your teeth with bottled water. I do only drink bottled water when travelling, but neglected to follow the last two rules. The stomach virus I picked up was quite unpleasant. In addition to the normal stomach problems, I had a fever, cold sweats, and wasn't able to eat for three days. I bought an antibiotic at the Pharmacy (no prescription necessary) and started to feel better eventually. However, I was too exhausted and sick to even think of women the last few days. It is a shame because I wanted to repeat with both of the girls I met through David and also wanted to try the massage place called Relax why Vida which I have heard recommended. Next time, I'll be more careful and do without ice in my drinks.

In summary, I would highly recommend Lima. In addition to the beautiful women, there is also so much else to enjoy about the city. In fact, I had planned a trip to Medellin over the Summer, but have now decided I wish to return to Lima instead. Next time I want to stay at least ten days and hopefully take a trip to Machu Pichu as well. Lima is my new favorite destination.

Again, Thank you David for making my first trip to Peru so enjoyable. I'll be back soon.

What strikes me as interesting is now ST mongers are saying the same thing. Any thoughts by the guys (Palermo / thomasab) others who have traveled to both? [/QUOTE]The airfare to Lima is $50 more, the same meal about $1. 00 more and the girls cost about $10 more. Sorry but the Medellin crowd will [B]never ever [/B]go for that super huge inflated increase. Are you kidding me? You got guys on the board screaming and yelling over $2 fukin dollars. I know guys going to street walkers here trying to talk them down from $15K blowjobs (That's under USD$8. 00 currently).

[B]Palermo [/B]you are comparing on the Medellin side prices of girls in the higher end places like Luna and such and not the day time casas or Mayorista girls ($USD15-$20). I think the Lima babes are about $10 bucks more over all, but I could be wrong.

Me? I would NEVER come to Medellin for a vacation no matter how hard up I was for pussy. Sorry but I can think of 10 better places and I am not a rich guy by any means.

[QUOTE=Lima Busy; 1124004]Saw this posted elsewhere and thought it was interesting. I have many friends that have lived in both cities and all but two have come back as they prefer the women and lifestyle in Lima.

First Trip to Lima.

I just got back last week from my first trip to Peru and wanted to share some of my experiences. I've travelled to quite a few countries in South and Cental America including Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, , Ecuador, Costa Rica, and Panama. Every place is unique and different and my favorite place for the last few years has been to stay at the Medellin Mansion. It is always tempting to head back to Medellin, but I've decided I need to broaden my horizons and try new places. I was very glad that I decided to vist Lima.

Lima is a beautiful city with many parks. The area I stayed in, Mira Flores, is very upscale with any convenience you need. There are wonderful restaurants and great places to walk. My favorite was along the cliffs above the beaches. It has absolutely stunning views. I felt very safe, even late at night, walking around the area. It also has a significant tourist industry. I took two tours on Mirabus, one to the old downtown historical area and one to the Inca pyramids just to the south of town. I enjoy having something different to do during the day and there are many, many options in Lima. This is somewhat different from Medellin, which is a lovely city, but has little new to see after being there a few times.

I stayed at the Marisa Luisa Hotel after reading recommendations on the board. Overall, I would recommend the hotel for mongers, although there were a few problems. The biggest issue was that there is a new building being built next door to the hotel and the constuction noise starts at dawn and goes until dusk (except Sunday). I would recommend getting earplugs. The hotel rate for a junior suite also changed several times. Initially, I sent a request for a reservation back at the beginning of December and the rate on the website was $100 soles per night. The hotel replied that the rate was going up to $120 soles per night after the first of the year. I replied that this was fine, but when I arrived, the rate was $130 soles. This is still only about $48 per night which isn't outrageous, but the changes were a little irritating. The hotel doesn't take credit cards, so it is necessary to pay in cash. The hotel location is excellent. It is only about two blocks from Parque Kennedy and is close to everything. The junior suite wasn't luxurious, but was adequate. The drinks from the minibar were only $3 soles each. The hotel doesn't have air conditioning, but there was a fan in the bedroom which was all that was really needed this time of year. There was also a computer for free use in the lobby which was handy since I don't carry a laptop. I had no issues bringing girls up to the room. They merely left their I'd at the desk and there was no additional charge.

As for the girls. I was somewhat worried when I first planned my trip to Lima. I had heard that the Peruvian girls weren't as pretty as the girls in Colombia. However, I was very pleasantly surprised otherwise. While there may be more beautiful women in total in Colombia, there are still many, many girls in Peru that are just as pretty as any in Medellin. I relied on David to arrange girls for me for two nights and both were absolute gems. They were both beautiful and sweet with no time pressures at all. I think they were some of the best girlfriend experinces I've had on any of my trips. I was hoping to repeat with both girls, unfortunately circumstances prevented this (more later). I can't say enough good things about David. He provided me with all kinds of great information prior to my arrival and arranged both of the girls even though he was getting ready to leave on vacation to Asia.

Unfortunately, the last few days of my trip went downhill due to being very sick. The guidebook recommends drinking bottled water, asking for drinks without ice, and brushing your teeth with bottled water. I do only drink bottled water when travelling, but neglected to follow the last two rules. The stomach virus I picked up was quite unpleasant. In addition to the normal stomach problems, I had a fever, cold sweats, and wasn't able to eat for three days. I bought an antibiotic at the Pharmacy (no prescription necessary) and started to feel better eventually. However, I was too exhausted and sick to even think of women the last few days. It is a shame because I wanted to repeat with both of the girls I met through David and also wanted to try the massage place called Relax why Vida which I have heard recommended. Next time, I'll be more careful and do without ice in my drinks.

In summary, I would highly recommend Lima. In addition to the beautiful women, there is also so much else to enjoy about the city. In fact, I had planned a trip to Medellin over the Summer, but have now decided I wish to return to Lima instead. Next time I want to stay at least ten days and hopefully take a trip to Machu Pichu as well. Lima is my new favorite destination.

Again, Thank you David for making my first trip to Peru so enjoyable. I'll be back soon.

What strikes me as interesting is now ST mongers are saying the same thing. Any thoughts by the guys (Palermo / thomasab) others who have traveled to both? [/QUOTE]I went to Lima 7 times before I even thought about Colombia. I always had a good time in Lima. Trouble started with me with the terrible pollution in the city. Then the Soles (money) became more expensive on each trip. Airfare also was more expensive as Spirit cut back on service on the months that Lima is pleasent (Nov. To April ). The girls are good, but except for one real low end place they were more expensive than Colombia. I don't count CTG in the mix as it is the most expensive city in Colombia for P4P.

To sum it up Colombia is closer and cheaper than Lima. If there was no Colombia then I would glady return to Peru.

Went up to Masajistas Paisas. CL 53 #42-56. No answer at the door. Maybe because it was around lunch time?

Visited Relax. CRA 45 #57-71. Had a brew and viewed the lineup. Stuck around for 30 mins just in case some of the girls were busy. Eight girls on duty. Three were doable by my standards but their attitudes were strickly business. I need a little illusion they want me or my money?

Make it a stop on your list. Enjoy!

I would like to comment about traveling to Lima and Peru as compared to MDE and Colombia as I have visited both recently. I have been to Peru perhaps ten times in the last several years. Each time I go, I visit not only Lima but also other towns and cities in the country so have seen much of the country from the traditional spots such as Machu Picchu to the out of way places (and non-mongering spots) such as Cajamarca. My last visit to Peru was to Lima and Ayacucho last Easter.

My first trip to Colombia only occurred this year and I went two times, once in the late summer and again in November. The first time in Colombia I visited MDE, San Andreas, and CTG. Though I enjoyed the women and MDE in general, I found the city quite boring after a few days. San Andreas sucked as far as I was concerned. Hardly any beaches for a fairly large island, a bit run-down, and too quiet and provincial for my tastes. Cartagena was the most interesting as the old city has a lot of atmosphere and even though the girls are expensive by even Lima standards, I had some pretty good luck with my overall experiences, though a few bizarre incidents as well. Don't we all! My second trip in November took me to the pleasant colonial towns north of Bogota such as Villa De Leyva, Barichara, and San Gil. I finished my trip in Bucaramanga and Cartagena, and spent one rainy night in Bogata. Once again, I enjoyed the ladies of CTG though you will pay more than in Lima. Almost all the chicas at the more infamous places wanted the equivalent of $125 US for two hours of fun and generally would not budge off that price. GFE was possible but it seems luck plays a role too.

Overall and hands down the woman in Colombia are much more attractive. There simply is no comparison from my general experiences. For one, you get a lot more variety, blonds, red hair, green eyes, blue eyes, taller than the Peruvians girls, more busty and rounded, nicer butts, and gorgeous skin tones and texture. On the menu, you can order the hot black girls of Cali and CTG and the blonds / blancas in MDE and Manizales. Compare that to the the short, pudgy, long straight black hair, that one encounters more often than not in Peru and Lima. Of course, there are always exceptions. I think if you go outside the major cities in Colombia, you will find the chicas prices are more reasonable than MDE, etc. Though that can also be said for Peru too. Free non=pro's are quite possible in both countries as well and at least for me its a matter of time, luck, and instinct. I also know that there are certain parts of MDE, well documented on this board, where the price structure is fantastic if you can deal with the potential dangers and sometimes dodgy surroundings. Not sure if such an area exists in Peru or Lima where a gringo could tread freely without encountering significant health issues.

As far as costs and food experiences, I went to a normal looking pizza Italian style restaurant in Bogota and paid as much as I would in most major US cities. I think the food is infinitely better in Lima and Peru as Colombia is just beginning to discover how to use some of the native grown products and perhaps did not have the same Asian influences as Peru. Also, the availability of fresh fish in so many Peruvian cities has enhanced their dishes. Remember the Inca's had many trails where they carried fresh fish from the coast to the mountain communities. Sort of like a Pony Express. So its imbued in their culture.

One other comment has to do with hotels and apartments. I find the costs are generally about the same in both countries though you just have to put the work in and do your research. I stayed at a fantastic studio apt. In El Centro in CTG overlooking an old romantic plaza (Plaza F. Madrid) on both my trips and also found an interesting little gem of a hotel in Parque Lleras in MDE. Lima also has some nice apartments such as LB's modern penthouse and another apartment I stayed in closer to Ovalo Bolognesi, though its difficult or almost impossible to find something unico / antigo in Lima. In general, both countries have a long way to go to get to even two star European type hostals and small hotel ratings. Regarding flights, I find that the airline costs from the US to Peru or Colombia are about the same from Houston or Newark depending on the season, etc. Even the flight arrival times end up being almost the same. I generally leave the US in mid morning and arrive in MDE, BOG or CTG airports around 9:30 in the evening. Arrival time in Lima via IAH is a bit later at about 10:30 to 11. It barely factors into my decision of which country to visit. One way or the other, you are flying all day unless, of course, you are from Miami.

In closing, I am considering a two week trip to South America in the near future. I have not decided my destination yet but I am leaning towards Colombia because I discovered that I can visit either CTG or BOG first and also include a side trip to Curacao as both cities have airlines offering flights to this island and / or Aruba, Bonaire, or SXM. One thing you can't do in Peru is visit a nice offshore island with decent beaches and chicas! PS: Asia Beach or Mancora does not count.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1124033]The airfare to Lima is $50 more, the same meal about $1. 00 more and the girls cost about $10 more. Sorry but the Medellin crowd will [B]never ever [/B]go for that super huge inflated increase. Are you kidding me? You got guys on the board screaming and yelling over $2 fukin dollars. I know guys going to street walkers here trying to talk them down from $15K blowjobs (That's under USD$8. 00 currently).

[B]Palermo [/B]you are comparing on the Medellin side prices of girls in the higher end places like Luna and such and not the day time casas or Mayorista girls ($USD15-$20). I think the Lima babes are about $10 bucks more over all, but I could be wrong.

Me? I would NEVER come to Medellin for a vacation no matter how hard up I was for pussy. Sorry but I can think of 10 better places and I am not a rich guy by any means. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoleRanger; 1123966]Well, in all my visits here this was my first trip here. So this is where a good selection of hot women can be found. Nice. Entry was 10 COP. 1 beer 18 COP (may have been 2 COP added but I didn't debate it). Several hot dancers and about 30 women sitting around on the prowl. I stayed about 2 hours, enjoyed the strip show. I would say 75-80% of the women sitting did not get picked up. Could it be pricing (170 COP +-)? Most were content with having a good time and customers buying them drinks. Most of the locals as I, had a few cold ones and watched the show. For me I could not justify what they were asking for when I know you can always find a jewel in far less pricey places.

Worth a visit if this is your scene. Enjoy![/QUOTE]As in the Centro stripclubs, the locals just don't seem to take the girls to the back a lot. A lot of getting drunk and talking to the girls. I think it's comparable to us going to stripclubs at home and going for the VIP every once in a while. It is expensive to them! Some don't even tip. Which is all the more reason we should tip them the 1k or 2k when they come around.

Frank, Joe here, please update the addy for Linas Masssage in Mayorista, and a general descritp / of whats its close to, haven't been there, prices etc. Girls to ask for etc. , thanks.

I've spent a lot of time in Peru and Lima over the past ten years, and only recently waded more seriously into Colombia and especially Medellin. My comparison and opinion seems close to what others here are reporting:

Medellin: hotter girls with prettier faces and sexier figures, more satisfactory P4P scene, pleasant if rainy climate year round. My four visits to Medellin last year proved to me that if the main goal of a trip is to maximize sexual satisfaction and variety with GFE potential, Medellin has much more to offer than Lima.

Lima: better food and more interesting city. Weather sucks during the winter months June through October. Conquering the non pros there may be easier for those inclined to work that angle, young girls seriously dating men 20 or more years older is culturally accepted and the culture of the city is generally sex positive. My favorite Limena civ, a secretary (secretaries in Lima are easiest to game and bed as they are easily impressed by relatively high status foreigners) while not as hot as some of the best paisas I have done is genuinely attractive and for me a 10 personality as well as 10 in bedroom performance that bumps her up a notch or two from her physical level. In return for the explicitly no-strings relationship I provide for her a modest occasional donation, but 190 soles ($75) is a BIG DEAL for her and she seems to love me in part for my generosity.

So choosing between spending a lot of time with the Lima fav while gaming a few other candidates there when she is not with me, vs the hot lineup of paisa prepagos I could enjoy on my next trip, makes choosing between the two for my next trip difficult.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1124033]... I would NEVER come to Medellin for a vacation no matter how hard up I was for pussy. Sorry but I can think of 10 better places and I am not a rich guy by any means.[/QUOTE]Though I agree that Medellin is not the ideal vacation spot, it obviously has a great appeal, and as we all know, that appeal is most especially it's beautiful women.

I can think of many other vacation spots I'd rather visit too, however, there's always a beautiful, sexy, loving Paisa I happen to meet in Medellin and we end up talking and writing, and I just have to go back and see her.

I wouldn't run back for the PFP scene itself, but rather for some beauty that at least I believe, really digs me.

To say that one would NEVER come to Medellin for vacation, no matter how hard up for pussy, to me is funny.

I think it's because you live there, but just imagine if you lived in some fat cow land (and I don't just mean the cows) in say Nebraska, I think Medellin might just be appealing.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1124317]Though I agree that Medellin is not the ideal vacation spot, it obviously has a great appeal, and as we all know, that appeal is most especially it's beautiful women.

I can think of many other vacation spots I'd rather visit too, however, there's always a beautiful, sexy, loving Paisa I happen to meet in Medellin and we end up talking and writing, and I just have to go back and see her.

I wouldn't run back for the PFP scene itself, but rather for some beauty that at least I believe, really digs me.

To say that one would NEVER come to Medellin for vacation, no matter how hard up for pussy, to me is funny.

I think it's because you live there, but just imagine if you lived in some fat cow land (and I don't just mean the cows) in say Nebraska, I think Medellin might just be appealing. [/QUOTE]I wouldn't go there just for vacation either bro, sorry. But then again I live in an ocean front condo in South Beach. Je je LOL Everybody knows why gringos are flocking to Medellin and it ain't to ride the Metro Cable or see the Fat Botero Statues. Or is it just me that doesn't find Medellin a prime vacation spot? For me any kind of pristine vacation destination involves ocean in one way or another.

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[quote=ricker; 1124317]though i agree that medellin is not the ideal vacation spot, it obviously has a great appeal, and as we all know, that appeal is most especially it's beautiful women.

i can think of many other vacation spots i'd rather visit too, however, there's always a beautiful, sexy, loving paisa i happen to meet in medellin and we end up talking and writing, and i just have to go back and see her.

i wouldn't run back for the pfp scene itself, but rather for some beauty that at least i believe, really digs me.

to say that one would never come to medellin for vacation, no matter how hard up for pussy, to me is funny.

i think it's because you live there, but just imagine if you lived in some fat cow land (and i don't just mean the cows) in say nebraska, i think medellin might just be appealing. [/quote]let's face it. you have been coming here for years and have built relationships, know he lay of the land and are in tune with the culture. plus you speak the language and it is easy for you to build realtionships every time down. of course you want to come back on vacation.

i like when you guys come down here and spend money, one way (come down with usd$2, 000 and leave with nothing) from your homeland into the economy here and when it is directly with a ho or even with exito and other huge corporations, you help the economy and help keep a colombian primo employed at exito or help with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] on the ass of a baby with a puta madre, literally.

i will do every thing i can to promote tourism. especially sex tourism. because the poor barrio girls are 90% of the working girls. the money goes into their pockets and not to the botero museum. jejejeje who's kidding who?

i don't monger here and am not really a fan of mongering because i friggen hate rubbers, wouldn't fuk a working girl without one and think the best way to the gfe is with a gf or two and / or with an amiguita or two, simple as. there are easy ways to handle women down here and it doesn't cost all that much and is actually much cheaper than working girls and with less headaches than a us / uk girlfriend.

but a mongering vacation if i was stuck up north? not me.

but i respect the travelers who have made this place their #1 and will add nothing more than,"come-on down the pussy's nice, we need your business! ya'all come back now, ya hear?"

skokie if you need me to explain this to you send me a pm, i have experience teaching 5th grade.

[quote=ricker; 1124317]though i agree that medellin is not the ideal vacation spot, it obviously has a great appeal, and as we all know, that appeal is most especially it's beautiful women.

i can think of many other vacation spots i'd rather visit too, however, there's always a beautiful, sexy, loving paisa i happen to meet in medellin and we end up talking and writing, and i just have to go back and see her.

i wouldn't run back for the pfp scene itself, but rather for some beauty that at least i believe, really digs me.

to say that one would never come to medellin for vacation, no matter how hard up for pussy, to me is funny.

i think it's because you live there, but just imagine if you lived in some fat cow land (and i don't just mean the cows) in say nebraska, i think medellin might just be appealing.[/quote]let's face it. you have been coming here for years and have built relationships, know he lay of the land and are in tune with the culture. plus you speak the language and it is easy for you to build realtionships every time down. of course you want to come back on vacation.

i like when you guys come down here and spend money, one way (come down with usd$2, 000 and leave with nothing) from your homeland into the economy here and when it is directly with a ho or even with exito and other huge corporations, you help the economy and help keep a colombian primo employed at exito or help with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] on the ass of a baby with a puta madre, literally.

i will do every thing i can to promote tourism. especially sex tourism. because the poor barrio girls are 90% of the working girls. the money goes into their pockets and not to the botero museum. jejejeje who's kidding who?

i don't monger here and am not really a fan of mongering because i friggen hate rubbers, wouldn't fuk a working girl without one and think the best way to the gfe is with a gf or two and / or with an amiguita or two, simple as. there are easy ways to handle women down here and it doesn't cost all that much and is actually much cheaper than working girls and with less headaches than a us / uk girlfriend.

but a mongering vacation if i was stuck up north? not me.

but i respect the travelers who have made this place their #1 and will add nothing more than,"come-on down the pussy's nice, we need your business! ya'all come back now, ya hear?"

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it. Outside of Poblado, honestly, I have never run into another gringo. That.

Includes all the casas I have been to, and el Centro. I ask the girls and they all say the clientele is 95%+ local. I am writing this as a very good thing, in case anyone feels MDE is overrun with gringos, I don't find that at all.

The same thing definitely CANNOT be said about Panama City

Hi Fury, your numbers are very close. 5% or less is pretty much the number of gringos you see at any monguering area or establishment in Medellin. Ain`t that great for us the previliged few, ha, ha!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1124377]Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it. Outside of Poblado, honestly, I have never run into another gringo. That.

Includes all the casas I have been to, and el Centro. I ask the girls and they all say the clientele is 95%+ local. I am writing this as a very good thing, in case anyone feels MDE is overrun with gringos, I don't find that at all.

The same thing definitely CANNOT be said about Panama City[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1124377]Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it. Outside of Poblado, honestly, I have never run into another gringo. That.

Includes all the casas I have been to, and el Centro. I ask the girls and they all say the clientele is 95%+ local. I am writing this as a very good thing, in case anyone feels MDE is overrun with gringos, I don't find that at all.

The same thing definitely CANNOT be said about Panama City[/QUOTE]Maybe it depends what time you go. Personally, I've bumped into many gringos in Mayorista, casas, stripclubs, and of course Poblado. I wouldn't say it's overrun, but I have bumped into them.

While I would agree that MDE is not the ideal travel destination, a trip there works just fine when it's 10 degrees in Chicago in January. Beautiful weather, beautiful chicas and the opportunitiy to refresh my Espanol.

Every avid traveler should go to Peru at least once to check out Cuzco and M. Picchu. Absolutely one of the top places to visit in all the World. And yes, Lima has fantastic food, culture, and beaches not too far away.

I think badmouthing any one destination is a bit ridiculous because most of these places are worth checking out at least once. Just going to the same place 15 times in a row seems boring to me.

Rio, MDE, Peru, DR, BA, Thailand, et al. If you've got the time and money, you should check out as many as possible. Not sure any is perfect (well Rio used to be!) , but they all have something to offer.

I was just there. I ran into very view Americans. In the downtown casas very view sitings. Is what the nenas said.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1124440]Maybe it depends what time you go. Personally, I've bumped into many gringos in Mayorista, casas, stripclubs, and of course Poblado. I wouldn't say it's overrun, but I have bumped into them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1124340]I wouldn't go there just for vacation either bro, sorry. But then again I live in an ocean front condo in South Beach.

For me any kind of pristine vacation destination involves ocean in one way or another. [/QUOTE]I got ya amigo, and I dig the beach too.

IMO though, South Beach has it's great sights, but it may be one of the most stuck up areas on the planet, I'll take a few hours north where it's more layed back and the Spring Break chicas still hang out, if only to gawk at hahaha.

I live on the beach, grew up on the beach, I don't need a beach on vacation.
Medellin and other like destinations are just fine for me.

Hope to bump into ya soon amigo!

Second request for info on a post by Frank Casio, anyone know the addy, prices, who to ask for, general info. Apprec. On Linas Massage in Mayorista.

Thanks,

Chipper

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1124602]I was just there. I ran into very view Americans. In the downtown casas very view sitings. Is what the nenas said.[/QUOTE]Well it's not like you're going to see Gringos walking about el Centro like tourists on Bourbon Street, but they are out there, there's a map of el Centro casas for Dios sake hahaha.

Funny thing, a friend dragged me out to New Life the other day, a place I used to love, and including us there were 5 gringos in the sala waiting for the chica presentation.

The chicas presented themselves and they seemed so bored and uninterested it was comical to me.

I can remember when a gringo in the sala was a big deal and the chicas giggled with excitement to maybe get selected, now it's as exciting to them as clipping their toe nails.

I noticed one of the other gringos there, a tall, very skinny guy, he was dressed like Crocodile Dundee.

He selected a chica I knew from the past, they went to the room and he was literally out of there in no more than 5 minutes.

The chica came by afterwards and I told her that she must have the 'magic' to take care of a guy that quickly, she just smiled.

I passed on the chicas, partly because I was waiting for an afternoon visit from una amguita and partly because the chicas looked so uninterested.

I know you can get lucky in the casas and meet a sweetheart, I've done it many times, it's just fewer and farther between now.

Good luck out there.

Caught the train to Energy yesterday. Take the "B" train, [email]exit@Estadio[/email] Station, turn left on Cra 70, turn left on CL 50 continue until you reach Cra 74 about a 15 min walk. Well inside there were about 12 girls working. While they look prettier in their lavender lab coats following the Loutron model, underneath the quality was about the same as other less costly MP's.

Of the 12 or so working, about half were doable. The cost is 90k for 60 mins. I drank my beer stayed a few minutes following the presentation and left.

If you just want to swing by to check it out, it's an option but you can get the same for less $.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1124351]... I don't monger here and am not really a fan of mongering because I friggen hate rubbers, wouldn't fuk a working girl without one and think the best way to the GFE is with a GF or two and / or with an amiguita or two, simple as. There are easy ways to handle women down here and it doesn't cost all that much and is actually much cheaper than working girls and with less headaches than a US / UK girlfriend ...[/QUOTE]I agree.

Though I do still dabble in the mongering, and I just endure the 'preservativos' (condoms) as it's necessary, it's the GFs and special amiguitas and other friendships that keep me coming back to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1124636]Funny thing, a friend dragged me out to New Life the other day, a place I used to love, and including us there were 5 gringos in the sala waiting for the chica presentation.

The chicas presented themselves and they seemed so bored and uninterested it was comical to me.

I can remember when a gringo in the sala was a big deal and the chicas giggled with excitement to maybe get selected, now it's as exciting to them as clipping their toe nails. [/QUOTE]HAHAHAAAAA, want to hear a good one? A few backs when I treated my Colombian buddy to newlife it was slim pickings not like 5 years ago but anyways I picked the cutest of the place spinner named "Angela?" I think that's her name, but anyways after the small chit chat that goes back and forth before you get on with it she said she was 19 has been working there for 2 months. She asked me who was the Colombian guy I came in with and if he was "La Guia?" ja ja ja, I really tried to contain my sarcastic laughter because #1 This girl has seen so many gringos in her short 2 months of working there that she knows about GUIAS? And #2 I know where more casas are than my Paisa fiend. Ji ji LOL

If it were not for the decent Massage here for little money I would move, LOL. Really guys, Nicaragua, Peru, and Ecuador, Hell, even Guatemala is far more fun, here its the wam bam slam the Man thats the norm these days. Its the economy here thats made the changes, facts, Colombia has the fastest growing economy in South and Central America, Colombia is predicted to be in the top 30 best economies in the world in 5 to 7 years, Now Medellin is listed in Top 10 exotic retirement places, Top 10 happiest people in the world, Top 10 exotic beach vacation spots in the way of Santa Marta, hell, who wants to tell them to stay home, its over here, kinda like Costa these days, the fun is gone.

Hello all,

There is a new Gringo bar open in Parque lleras Medellin, there is a private party on Friday March 11, 2011.

The name is Last call, address is Cra 38 number 8 52, parque lleras, Medellin, Colombia.

Inside Parque lleras.

Cash bar, entry fee is $10, 000 pesos, they are expecting about 30 to 40 local beautiful girls and some gringos!

Call Victor for more info 3126168015

I read in economist magazine a couple of months ago that Colombia has one of the highest functionally illiiterate populations in South America and also has the most unequal income distribution in the world. I don't see that changing any time soon, and we all see it in MDE, massive shopping malls in Poblado and abject poverty when you.

Use the metrocable. So, while you are absolutely right above Colombia's economic growth prospects, in some ways.

It makes it better, as the girls want more, and will be more willing to put out (just my observation!). I had the best time there the last time I went.

One always has to be careful of course, the girls will latch on to you, and there is always the crime element. But I don't think massive change is going to come anytime soon to that society, the extremely high single mom ratio, girls getting knocked up at 16 then turning to the casas to make ends meet. That won't change.

Also, you are right about other places, I find SSalvador equally or more appealing then MDE now, and will be.

Trying other places.

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1124377]Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see it. Outside of Poblado, honestly, I have never run into another gringo. That.

Includes all the casas I have been to, and el Centro. I ask the girls and they all say the clientele is 95%+ local.[/QUOTE]You are off. Don't ask the girls, they lie. The casas are loaded with foreigners a lot more than 5% but really who cares? Why should that be a problem?

I believe the casas are about 15% but would be higher if the economy in this town weren't doing as well. As there are more local customers than there were 6, 8 years ago.

Most of you cannot spot the foreigner because they blend in if they dress average. A lot do. [I] That guy waiting on the sofa speaks spanish so he is a local. [/I][B]No. [/B]A lot of foreigners speak Spanish well or at least better than you. Any speaker of spanish whose level is slightly higher than yours, well, sounds fluent to you, hence they must be a Colombian and not a foreigner.

When you are able to distinguish the Costeño from the Caleño or Rolo you will spot a lot more foreigners just with your ears. Not every foreigner is 50 overweight pink skinned blonde with a long sleeved shirt tucked in.

The situation worth considering regarding the casas is not how many foreigners frequent but that more and more of the girls working in the centro casa are true lesbians. Which is why it is more mechanical toe nail clipping non GFE. A lot of girls you are with at these places are not into guys.

I bump into obvious and stealth foreigners all the time outside of Poblado. Not that I have a ptroblem with that.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1121340]I guess now all the Rio guys are tired of sitting home jacking their dick watching Slayer fuck all the Brazillian girls from a couple years ago. Well, Medellin is NOT Rio. Nothing is like the old Rio. But welcome.

Here's the scoop, don't fuck it up. The casas during the days if thats your thing. But otherwise hit Mayorista (its safe) at 10pm. Stay have a couple beers, then hit Luna Luneras (strip club). If your not alone try El Centro. About 1am fall into Sandiego, buy a bottle of rum (25usd) and enjoy the show (completely safe). Pass out your number for an afternnon delight. Sleep late. Hit Sante fe mall for a late lunch or get on the Metro and get off at San Antonio station and walk around. Take a late nap and repeat. Plain and simple. Don't make it difficult.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Sounds like a good plan

last night i checked out a few clubs i had not returned to in awhile.

sonorama, cl 52 #42-72. it's ok. inside the pickins were average. no real stunners. the porn flick was the biggest thing going on.

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club maracaibo, cl 53 #49-30.

las americas cl 53 #49-50.

ejectivo cl 53 #48-20.

all three of the above clubs had a decent selection, most in the average range with a few in the 7 range. in each club there were maybe an average of 20-25 (not including the dancers) girls and they kind of rotate through the clubs since they are all in close proximity looking for prey.

i was content with just watching the shows since my battery was on low. worth a peek. i was quoted 50k / 30 min and around 40k / take out. most of the girls just wanted to hook up hopefully and get out of the club for awhile. the locals were doing their thing, drinking, pawing the girls and once in awhile a tip to the dancers.

enjoy!

Sounds good to me, knocked up at 16 then turning to the casas to make ends meet. That won't change.

Also, you are right about other places, I find SSalvador equally or more appealing then MDE now, and will be.

Trying other places.[/QUOTE]

This is an example of a city that has two faces, one says Welcome Gringos, the other that says leave the Money here. If you want to invest I suggest you help support single Moms in the Casas and Clubs, hehehehe, been here 6 years, anyone here longer than me, see the changes? Last one out turn out the lights, really is nice to get to see other places from a Newbie perspective, so I will continue to see other SA an CA countries, whoops, late for the Black Jack tourny at the Casino Medellin.

Regards,

Chipper

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1124706]...Now Medellin is listed in Top 10 exotic retirement places, Top 10 happiest people in the world, Top 10 exotic beach vacation spots in the way of Santa Marta, hell, who wants to tell them to stay home, its over here, kinda like Costa these days, the fun is gone.[/QUOTE]Well reviews of happiness by Forbes and others list Costa Ricans as some of the happiest people in the world. So there must be a little fun left there. BTW Denmark consistently ranks at the top of the happy list. Wonder if social policy and attitudes could influence happiness?

See: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/04/costa-rica-happy-planet-index[/url]

Thats only true for really dum gringos with nothin to offer, I can't seem to get girls to stop calling me.

My biggest problem is getting rid of them and real studs such as Ricker will confirm my observations. Remember newbies there no room to be cynical in Medellin.

Hi, I have just arrived in Colombia and in some days I will reach Medellin. I'm thinking to sleep at direccion: Transv. 39B # 77-29 (Laureles). I know it is enough far from metro. Can you tell me if I will stay in the action or is it close to the action?

Do you know a furnished apartment close the Metro?

Thanks

Cia. Gov / factbook look this up!

I think optimism is good. I have learned spanish well during the last years and look forward to economic prosperity in Medellíand, the city in which I want to live in as retired.

Better economy means that skilled creative and energetic foreigners can (finally) make business with Colombia / Medellíand.

In terms of paying for services, prepagos or to marry a young sexy "paisa" Medellíand / Colombia will still be cheap beacuse the average age is very low and hence there are many people competing for the new jobs being created.

Argentina, in spite of the cyclical economic problems this country suffers from, is still the richest country in Latinamerica. Colombia lays behind and need more than 6-7 years to enter top 30 richest countries in the world.

I recommend Medellíand as a site to live in and run a business, preferably using the comparative advantages between Medellíand and Northmerica / westerneurope.

Females in this city, if not in the whole Colombia, are very beautiful and very accommodating.

I tell openly that I seek a marriage of convenience and many young beautiful feamles thinks that is great!

I have met few foreigners in the everyday life in Medellíand, almost everyone in Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=Jchipper;1124706]If it were not for the decent Massage here for little money I would move, LOL. Really guys, Nicaragua, Peru, and Ecuador, Hell, even Guatemala is far more fun, here its the wam bam slam the Man thats the norm these days. Its the economy here thats made the changes, facts, Colombia has the fastest growing economy in South and Central America, Colombia is predicted to be in the top 30 best economies in the world in 5 to 7 years, Now Medellin is listed in Top 10 exotic retirement places, Top 10 happiest people in the world, Top 10 exotic beach vacation spots in the way of Santa Marta, hell, who wants to tell them to stay home, its over here, kinda like Costa these days, the fun is gone.[/QUOTE]

Any mongers know if there is a place like the 4x4 in Rio located and medillian?

Hello!

I'm a newbie in Medellin, andlooking for a link where to start getting the grip of the options in this place like casas, street walkers, pro, semi-pro, free and massages places.

Not sure you got one, but if you do please share!

The amount of material about Colombia is huge! .

Thansk!

It's all right in front of you. Start with the Lists, then read the reports back year. There are some great photos to entertain you along the way.

[QUOTE=Martin00; 1125908]Hello!

I'm a newbie in Medellin, andlooking for a link where to start getting the grip of the options in this place like casas, street walkers, pro, semi-pro, free and massages places.

Not sure you got one, but if you do please share!

The amount of material about Colombia is huge! .

Thansk! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Colashermosas; 1125852]. I think optimism is good. I have learned spanish well during the last years and look forward to economic prosperity in Medellíand, the city in which I want to live in as retired.

Better economy means that skilled creative and energetic foreigners can (finally) make business with Colombia / Medellíand.

In terms of paying for services, prepagos or to marry a young sexy "paisa" Medellíand / Colombia. [/QUOTE]I'm curious and probably missing something here, but why do you call Medellin,"Medelliand"?

Also posted on another forum as this complete trip report includes Medellin for 3 nights (72 hrs) and Costa Rica for 2 nights (36 hrs)

The Whirlwind Tour Trip Report."Getting laid in 2 different latin american countries on your Birthday"

Flash back to Late December, I was just recovering from my after thanksgiving trip and I was deciding where to go for my bday trip this year Costa Rica or Medellin, heavily leaning towards MDE, when I hear from a good friend on the telephone. He has to work in SJ for a couple days and says to me "why not BOTH" Tells me to book the RT to SJO and then offers up quite a birthday present, Since he wants to go to MDE before needing to be in SJO for a couple days for work. A ticket from SJO-MDE and back. Don't know how I can possibly turn down a good friends offer like that and this is exactly what he does. Find out a few other amigos are going to be along on this trip including Skosh, Phoenix Rising, Hanshin Baka and a newbie friend from Chicago. This is shaping up to be a good time.

Flash back to present day. Leave Tuesday morning 2/15 at 5:40 AM, land in SJO at 1:30 to look for to await our flights to PTY and MDE. Landing at 8PM to our hero's favorita con taxi awaiting us, with Rum, Coke and Ice. I give my amigos fav a ton of crap for not picking mine up on the way, but assures me she is primping for my arrival Have a few drinks on my way down the mountain and am ready and raring to go.

Arriving at 9PM at the hotel, my paisa has yet to arrive but I am assured she is on her way I quickly unpack grab a drink and start the room preparation. No need to go into details with her, but needless to say after a 14 hour travel day and 2 months away it was quite the reunion. Fall asleep in each other arms about 2 am after my 1st two leches of the trip, I am exhausted and we sleep until 11 am the next morning.

Awake to the noises of mis amigos on the balcony shooting the shit, time for Round 3 Finish up and head to the kitchen to order breakfast for us. Chat with a few amigos on the balcony while awaiting for Amada to deliver our food. Back to the room grab some energy from some food, and I am told / shown it time for Round 4. Since the jacuzzi got a firm workout the night before and my back is paying for it, I mention I need some TLC, got that and quite a bit more before it is time for her to head home to grab some clothes for TONIGHT at Palmitas. 4 leches down in 14 hours, a GOOD start to the trip.

Put her in a taxi with a promise of returning at 7 pm and check out who is hanging around. I run into Skosh at the table who ask about a trip to New Life. Make a quick call to Phx Rsing, he is at New Life with my newbie friend. Skosh and I grab a taxi and meet up with them 20 minutes later at the restaurant below New Life, the two of them had already sessioned including a great recommendation from Phx. Head upstairs with Skosh to check the lineup, nothing really gets the ole Tent rising. Decide to let Skosh make his choice (Phx's recommendation) and head back down to shoot the breeze with mi amigo while awaiting him. An HOUR later we are still waiting on him and wondering if he fell in.

Skosh finally comes down with an ear to war grin, beholding to Phx for the recommendation. By now Phx is ready for Round 2, and we tag along with him to Aiffe around the corner. We are ushered into the waiting room and shortly thereafter 6 cuties appear before us in panties and bras. Phoenix is getting a bit of a charge out of a cute little dark one (almost looked Dominican) Need I say more. Mr. Dom Reb decides to pull the trigger on her while Skosh and I head back to wait on him at the restaurant discussed prior, order a tipico Colombian plate which was very good for $5, 900 pesos (about $3).

Discussing this evenings events. 30 minutes later my phone rings, Phx is done, where are we. Meet back up, decide it is time to hit Pomona for supplies and head back to the hotel to clean up and await tonight FESTIVITIES!

Still no Dancer sightings since arrival, as his fav has him on serious lock down.

More to come.

Head to Pomona, pick up much needed supplies for the room as I had picked up a bottle of my favorite tequila along with a 15 yr bottle of Zacapa. In my haste to make my flight from sjo, (I only had an hour in between flights) I had grabbed a bottle of 15 instead of 23 we needed some mixers and I needed some cervezas why aquas para mi habitacion.

Arrived back at CB2 around 4 PM, unloaded and showered up, ran into Skosh, we had discussed dinner plans earlier that day with our favoritas. Roberto (not in town) and others had recommended : to me a Mexican / Italian place (name slips my mind) near Parque Poblado, Skosh and his lady friend had been there before but humored me and readily agreed to go. Received a call from favorita at 7 PM, necesito un poco tiempo bebe, es no problema. 30 minutos. NO problema bebe, hasta pronto. She arrives at 7:30, the four of us head out and enjoyed a very nice Mexican meal for 50, 000 pesos ($27 per couple including a round of drinks).

Left there at 9 PM to head back to CB2 for the festivities to begin, Had a couple Zacapas with Phoenix Rising (paying off his debt for his Jets / Bears loss) prior to his departure with Cubanut (who made a surprise appearance, great to see you again bro) for the evening. I will leave it to PR or Cubanut to fill in THOSE details.

10 PM and the group is gathering to head out, finally a Dancer sighting. Hear fromm him via telephone, meeting you at Palmitas, cya there. Skosh and I grab a cab with favoritas in tow to head to Palmitas, meeting he, Hanshin Baka and Good2Go con favoritas there we proceed to drink, dance and party the night away, until my date informs me its time to leave at approximately 2 AM.

Just a quick recap on pricing at Palmitas. 1 Bottle Cuervo. 1 Bottle Ron Medellin Rum. 2 bottles of Absolut, with all the trimmings and mixers the bill was a hair over 500K pesos. Or 100K pesos per man ($54). Pretty good deal if you ask me and a great place to hang out, dance, party and enjoy.

Head back to the hotel for some fun which last until the sun comes up, finally being "allowed" to sleep somewhere around 6 or 7 am who remembers. Out like a like we were until 11 am in which another round ensues. Followed by more SLEEP, finally arising tiogether at 2 PM Time to domicilio some food.

More to come later.

Men. I'm liking the optimistice reports, it seems like every time we start talking if a colomiana will actually truely love a gringo.

We get a lot of skeptics. For me if I can't get them to really like me I got to dump them.

Of course ill try buying thier love first. Hahaha

[QUOTE=Ricker;1125934]I'm curious and probably missing something here, but why do you call Medellin,"Medelliand"?[/QUOTE]Yes you are missing the accent thing in your typing. Jackson has a filter that substitutes other characters. For instance the letter "-why-" gets transfrmed to the word why

[QUOTE=Ricker;1125934]I'm curious and probably missing something here, but why do you call Medellin,"Medelliand"?[/QUOTE]Ricker the filter here capitalizes first letters after periods and much more. It tries to remove chatroom typing (x = por, q / k = que in spanish chats)

So 1.) it considers the accented í as if it were the [B]end of a word [/B]2.) sees the last letter in Medellin. (Go ahead, try posting just that letter) and decides to un-chat-room and converts it to the word "and". Hence the OP looks like he can't spell.

With no the accents:

ñ = and

ý = why

Just try typing one of those letters by themselves.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1126084]Ricker the filter here capitalizes first letters after periods and much more. It tries to remove chatroom typing (x = por, q / k = que in spanish chats)

So 1.) it considers the accented í as if it were the [B]end of a word [/B]2.) sees the last letter in Medellin. (Go ahead, try posting just that letter) and decides to un-chat-room and converts it to the word "and". Hence the OP looks like he can't spell.

With no the accents:

ñ = and

ý = why

Just try typing one of those letters by themselves. [/QUOTE][blue]Greetings everyone,

None of this should be an issue for anyone, given that this is an English language website and that there is no word "[b]n[/b]" or "[b]y[/b]" in the English language.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Ricker;1125934]I'm curious and probably missing something here, but why do you call Medellin,"Medelliand"?[/QUOTE]I think that to try and class up the joint a little. Like pretentious people call TARGET, TARG'ET. LOL

[QUOTE=Admin; 1126113][blue]Greetings everyone,

None of this should be an issue for anyone, given that this is an English language website and etc.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]I have no problem with the filter even its quirks as I preview and proofread all my posts.

Two months ago, before the [B]"%" [/B]was on the list of allowable characters I wrote out [B]"percent".[/B] Not the end of the world. Guys who don't preview thier posts before adding can continue to tell of their adventures in [B]Medellíand[/B]

Which is best Medellin or Costa Rica? I am interested in hearing you guys thoughts.

Jay

Lets get off the spelling bee and back to sex with women.

Hahahahahahahhah

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1126164]Which is best Medellin or Costa Rica? I am interested in hearing you guys thoughts.

Jay[/QUOTE]Definitely Costa Rica, or maybe Lubbock, Texas.

Tough decision.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1126164]Which is best Medellin or Costa Rica? I am interested in hearing you guys thoughts.

Jay[/QUOTE]SJ in Costa Rica has the best pizza in all of Latin America.

Oh yeah as far as Mongering goes you don't have to go to MDE, just go to the Del Ray in SJ and you will see many beautiful Colombian women for $100 for a short time pop.

Of course you could just go to MDE and get the same ones for half the price.

I spent my first Mongering trip in Costa Rica and had a great time. Once I discovered Lima, the DR and Colombia I have never gone back.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1126164]Which is best Medellin or Costa Rica? I am interested in hearing you guys thoughts.

Jay[/QUOTE]It all depends on you and what you are into. Here Mr Gault says:

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1126170]SJ in Costa Rica has the best pizza in all of Latin America.[/QUOTE]Mr Gault is a known sucker for anchovies and a Calzone with real ricotta. And look. He still comes to Medellin! What does that tell you?

But some folks care little about that. And seriously, if you have a little money and are into a little more than notches on your belt (like nice beaches, good food, some shopping, safe travelling around and not worrying about being robbed, everyone on the street speaking english, no learning curve or having to travel miles between venues, etc.) , I would add a few other places as well as Medellin to your list.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1126170]Oh yeah as far as Mongering goes you don't have to go to MDE, just go to the Del Ray in SJ and you will see many beautiful Colombian women for $100 for a short time pop.

Of course you could just go to MDE and get the same ones for half the price.

I spent my first Mongering trip in Costa Rica and had a great time. Once I discovered Lima, the DR and Colombia I have never gone back.[/QUOTE]But Mr Gault is a seasoned vet who has found what works for him after visiting a handful of places. I would suggest doing the same. Never been to Medellin? Come on down!

Me on vacation I would recommend also adding to your list Sint Maarten (SXM) or Curaçao which are both less expensive than CR but similar in a lot of ways. So I will use SXM in my comparison. Chicks on SXM are $45 a pop. That's it. The price is fixed where as in Medellin you can spend up to $90 in some of the higher end places. In SXM the super hot Colombian 9 or 10 is still the same price and does not switch venues to the higher end establishment that charges $90-$100, because there are no other establishment with a different price structure. The difference between all of them is like $5 bucks. How hard is it in Medellin to find the nice working 9 in La Mayorista or at a Centro strip club? Let's be honest here fellas.

Just like in CR, you can interact with the girls as these 7 places on SXM (all within 5-10 mins car ride of each other, some are right next to each other in walking distance) as all are open from 11AM to 3AM and the girls hang at these places as they are actual bars (like in CR) and not some back room behind a curtain waiting to come out and give a 5 second twirly dark handshake. Also the girls on SXM are from all over Colombia (Cali, Medellin, Bog, the coast, I even met exotic girls from Tuluá and Buga) and some are from the Dom Repub. They do not work in their home country and are on the island for 3 months some do 6. Less hardened pros than Medellin and CR. Although on month #6 some of these girls must be pretty stretched out!

There are tons of things to do on SXM like sports gambling, clubs, a super variety of nice restaurants low end and top notch (don't tell John Gault but there are 3 Itlalian restuarants to die for) , dance clubs and laid back lounges that don't have anyone carrying guns, real casinos with craps and sports and horse wagering, duty free shopping, cuban cigars, real filet mignon and fresh seafood for when you hit that baseketball parlay, and roadside grills for when Chamberlain lets up 5 runs in the 8th, day trips to nearby islands, people out having a good time that you can approach and interact with, you don't have to worry for your safety and there are no misunderstandings as the whole island speaks freakin english and uses USD currency.

In Medellin you can screw and go back to your room or walk around and look at fat statues while looking over your shoulder between bites of a leather sandwich. Or you can go totally freakin nuts and visit a dead drug lord's grave. I've been 9 times and that tombstone gets more and more interesting every time.

On SXM there are so many little things to see and do and being able to safely get to and belly up to 7 different air conditioned bars be it 1PM during the day or at 2AM, where 30-40 girls hanging out in lingerie where you can interact with them or watch them interact around you is something that just does not exist in Medellin.

There is a mental level of awareness you must have 24 hours a day in Medellin and that can become taxing and tiresome. This is one of the un realized reasons why so many skip all that and stay at the Mansion here in Medellin. I have never been in a cab on Curaçao or Sint Maarten wondering if the driver is going to pull off on a side street and who knows what is going to happen.

Overall Medellin is a great place but not for everyone. So come down and see for yourself. At the risk of offending some really good people here and many personal good friends I find that the guys who love visiting Medellin (not including my buddy Ricker) are the ones who may be a little strapped for cash or just want to bust a nut and not much esle as the difference between a $25 girl in a smoggy city with nothing more than fat statues and crappy food, and a $45 girl on an island paradise, over the course of the week matters tremendously to them. No disrespect intended.

Check "Medellin List" in the Forum.

[QUOTE=Martin00; 1125908]Hello!

I'm a newbie in Medellin, andlooking for a link where to start getting the grip of the options in this place like casas, street walkers, pro, semi-pro, free and massages places.

Not sure you got one, but if you do please share!

The amount of material about Colombia is huge! .

Thansk! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1126074]Yes you are missing the accent thing in your typing. Jackson has a filter that substitutes other characters. For instance the letter "-why-" gets transfrmed to the word why[/QUOTE]That explains it, gracias!

[QUOTE=Crankdownonit;1126420]Took a tour with ************.com and showed me centro at night. This is not something I would do alone or with no experience but all in all it was packed with adventure on every level. I'm going to take the tour to Rio Claro next week.[/QUOTE]With so many [B]better options [/B]at night there is no reason to go to Centro, even it it were safer. The risk reward is upside down. Cheap putas? Do the Centro casas in the daytime.

At night: You got Lunas, San Diego, the whole Mayorista, Fase II and a cupla others. Personally a newbie on a tour of centro at night with an established "tour" means you could be made that much easier. Obviously the tour guide you mention is one guy who hopefully didn't start doing this yesterday (although a recent poster here hawking his services has made some comments newbies would not make. But I digress)

Centro is a criminals "stick and move" area. Tons of escape routes.

first, i believe this is the club i was in, i believe the larger club next door is ejecutivo cl 53 #48-20, huge screen, long runway, upper level etc is not the one. anyway, club maracaibo, cl 53 #49-30, when you enter there is a stage in front, small bar in back and the men's bathroom area has open partitioned stalls only a few feet from where the girls are using the mirror. decided to make another run, the lineup was low for the early week. roughly 10 girls in the place most just average. then there was this one with a silicone top, cute face, tight body and firm bottom. she was the hottest in the place and when she is in the room all the eyes are on her.

i forget her name but she stands out in the crowd. i decided to give her a run. 50, 000 cop for 30 mins onsite. i paid, the bar person tells me to go under the bar and into a room on the right. first off, i refused, it looked like a dark hole in the wall. then the girl went in and turned on the light. oh, ok, my first thought was i being set up for a beat down but it was a small bedroom with a bathroom. just to let you know if you find yourself engaged onsite.

now the girl, stripped, offered me some cocaine, i refused she snorted a bit. hmmm. that white powder could be anything but if she needed a pick me up, ok. first some cbj. only average, then she mounted me and rode me hard. ok, time for a switch, next to some doggy, the girl was bucking so hard she almost knocked me off the bed. she was clawing the mattress, had an orgasm and several minutes later me to.

a pleasant surprise, hot little girl with some skills. reminded me of women in brazil!

worth a peek. enjoy!

[quote=holeranger; 1126522]first, i believe this is the club i was in, i believe the larger club next door is ejecutivo cl 53 #48-20, huge screen, long runway, upper level etc is not the one. anyway, club maracaibo, cl 53 #49-30, when you enter there is a stage in front, small bar in back and the men's bathroom area has open partitioned stalls only a few feet from where the girls are using the mirror. decided to make another run, the lineup was low for the early week. roughly 10 girls in the place most just average. then there was this one with a silicone top, cute face, tight body and firm bottom. she was the hottest in the place and when she is in the room all the eyes are on her.

i forget her name but she stands out in the crowd. i decided to give her a run. 50, 000 cop for 30 mins onsite. i paid, the bar person tells me to go under the bar and into a room on the right. first off, i refused, it looked like a dark hole in the wall. then the girl went in and turned on the light. oh, ok, my first thought was i being set up for a beat down but it was a small bedroom with a bathroom. just to let you know if you find yourself engaged onsite.

now the girl, stripped, offered me some cocaine, i refused she snorted a bit. hmmm. that white powder could be anything but if she needed a pick me up, ok. first some cbj. only average, then she mounted me and rode me hard. ok, time for a switch, next to some doggy, the girl was bucking so hard she almost knocked me off the bed. she was clawing the mattress, had an orgasm and several minutes later me to.

a pleasant surprise, hot little girl with some skills. reminded me of women in brazil!

worth a peek. enjoy! [/quote]sounds like "lina" she's been working there at least 3 years and does excellent work! and i couldn't agree with you more, she really is the best looking girl in the place, sad part is she's at it six days a week, 12 hours a day. gets in at 2 in the afternoon out at 2 in the morning, a really nice single mommy

[quote=holeranger; 1126522]first, i believe this is the club i was in, i believe the larger club next door is ejecutivo cl 53 #48-20, huge screen, long runway, upper level etc is not the one. anyway, club maracaibo, cl 53 #49-30, when you enter there is a stage in front, small bar in back and the men's bathroom area has open partitioned stalls only a few feet from where the girls are using the mirror. decided to make another run, the lineup was low for the early week. roughly 10 girls in the place most just average. then there was this one with a silicone top, cute face, tight body and firm bottom. she was the hottest in the place and when she is in the room all the eyes are on her.

i forget her name but she stands out in the crowd. i decided to give her a run. 50, 000 cop for 30 mins onsite. i paid, the bar person tells me to go under the bar and into a room on the right. first off, i refused, it looked like a dark hole in the wall. then the girl went in and turned on the light. oh, ok, my first thought was i being set up for a beat down but it was a small bedroom with a bathroom. just to let you know if you find yourself engaged onsite.

now the girl, stripped, offered me some cocaine, i refused she snorted a bit. hmmm. that white powder could be anything but if she needed a pick me up, ok. first some cbj. only average, then she mounted me and rode me hard. ok, time for a switch, next to some doggy, the girl was bucking so hard she almost knocked me off the bed. she was clawing the mattress, had an orgasm and several minutes later me to.

a pleasant surprise, hot little girl with some skills. reminded me of women in brazil!

worth a peek. enjoy! [/quote]the club you were in is called las americas i am almost positive. i have ducked down into the rooms there a few times. i even got a spinner out of there that i still see.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1126187]It all depends on you and what you are into. Here Mr Gault says:

Mr Gault is a known sucker for anchovies and a Calzone with real ricotta. And look. He still comes to Medellin! What does that tell you?

But some folks care little about that. And seriously, if you have a little money and are into a little more than notches on your belt (like nice beaches, good food, some shopping, safe travelling around and not worrying about being robbed, everyone on the street speaking english, no learning curve or having to travel miles between venues, etc.) , I would add a few other places as well as Medellin to your list.

But Mr Gault is a seasoned vet who has found what works for him after visiting a handful of places. I would suggest doing the same. Never been to Medellin? Come on down!

Me on vacation I would recommend also adding to your list Sint Maarten (SXM) or Curaçao which are both less expensive than CR but similar in a lot of ways. So I will use SXM in my comparison. Chicks on SXM are $45 a pop. That's it. The price is fixed where as in Medellin you can spend up to $90 in some of the higher end places. In SXM the super hot Colombian 9 or 10 is still the same price and does not switch venues to the higher end establishment that charges $90-$100, because there are no other establishment with a different price structure. The difference between all of them is like $5 bucks. How hard is it in Medellin to find the nice working 9 in La Mayorista or at a Centro strip club? Let's be honest here fellas.

Just like in CR, you can interact with the girls as these 7 places on SXM (all within 5-10 mins car ride of each other, some are right next to each other in walking distance) as all are open from 11AM to 3AM and the girls hang at these places as they are actual bars (like in CR) and not some back room behind a curtain waiting to come out and give a 5 second twirly dark handshake. Also the girls on SXM are from all over Colombia (Cali, Medellin, Bog, the coast, I even met exotic girls from Tuluá and Buga) and some are from the Dom Repub. They do not work in their home country and are on the island for 3 months some do 6. Less hardened pros than Medellin and CR. Although on month #6 some of these girls must be pretty stretched out!

There are tons of things to do on SXM like sports gambling, clubs, a super variety of nice restaurants low end and top notch (don't tell John Gault but there are 3 Itlalian restuarants to die for) , dance clubs and laid back lounges that don't have anyone carrying guns, real casinos with craps and sports and horse wagering, duty free shopping, cuban cigars, real filet mignon and fresh seafood for when you hit that baseketball parlay, and roadside grills for when Chamberlain lets up 5 runs in the 8th, day trips to nearby islands, people out having a good time that you can approach and interact with, you don't have to worry for your safety and there are no misunderstandings as the whole island speaks freakin english and uses USD currency.

In Medellin you can screw and go back to your room or walk around and look at fat statues while looking over your shoulder between bites of a leather sandwich. Or you can go totally freakin nuts and visit a dead drug lord's grave. I've been 9 times and that tombstone gets more and more interesting every time.

On SXM there are so many little things to see and do and being able to safely get to and belly up to 7 different air conditioned bars be it 1PM during the day or at 2AM, where 30-40 girls hanging out in lingerie where you can interact with them or watch them interact around you is something that just does not exist in Medellin.

There is a mental level of awareness you must have 24 hours a day in Medellin and that can become taxing and tiresome. This is one of the un realized reasons why so many skip all that and stay at the Mansion here in Medellin. I have never been in a cab on Curaçao or Sint Maarten wondering if the driver is going to pull off on a side street and who knows what is going to happen.

Overall Medellin is a great place but not for everyone. So come down and see for yourself. At the risk of offending some really good people here and many personal good friends I find that the guys who love visiting Medellin (not including my buddy Ricker) are the ones who may be a little strapped for cash or just want to bust a nut and not much esle as the difference between a $25 girl in a smoggy city with nothing more than fat statues and crappy food, and a $45 girl on an island paradise, over the course of the week matters tremendously to them. No disrespect intended. [/QUOTE]I have been to Sxm twice and never knew about the P4P that was there. Of course the first time was with a Gringa GF and years later with my ex wife.

I look at that board once in a while since I love to go to a nice beach. Seems just like LE says but what this place needs is someone to open a CB1 or CB2 or a My Place. The rooms there are quite expensive in the winter.

Funny I forgot about being able to play the ponies in SXM. I wish MDE would open a horse parlor to fill in the down time.

I think after reading this report I will forget the DR, and when my ship comes in I will head for this island instead.

I like strip clubs in Centro and believe that they provide nice entertainments. But I wish they were less dark with more lights. Is it only me? Anyway I like them.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1126656]The club you were in is called Las Americas I am almost positive. I have ducked down into the rooms there a few times. I even got a Spinner out of there that I still see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1126187] ... Me on vacation I would recommend also adding to your list Sint Maarten (SXM) or Curaçao which are both less expensive than CR but similar in a lot of ways. So I will use SXM in my comparison. Chicks on SXM are $45 a pop. That's it ...

... Just like in CR, you can interact with the girls as these 7 places on SXM (all within 5-10 mins car ride of each other, some are right next to each other in walking distance) as all are open from 11AM to 3AM and the girls hang at these places as they are actual bars ...

... There are tons of things to do on SXM like sports gambling, clubs, a super variety of nice restaurants low end and top notch ... [/QUOTE]

Oh, I also dig SXM!

One of my trips out there, a buddy and I stayed at a little hotel that was attached to one of the chica clubs, obviously very convenient and also affordable.

All this SXM talk has my wheels spinning up to plan a trip out there again soon.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1126187]... At the risk of offending some really good people here and many personal good friends I find that the guys who love visiting Medellin (not including my buddy Ricker) are the ones who may be a little strapped for cash or just want to bust a nut and not much esle as the difference between a $25 girl in a smoggy city with nothing more than fat statues and crappy food, and a $45 girl on an island paradise, over the course of the week matters tremendously to them. No disrespect intended.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha, I know where you're comin from brother!

If it weren't for a few special girls I really dig in Medellin, I'd probably make more trips to the island (s).

Just one caveat I believe to your pricing comparison in MDE versus SXM.

In Medellin, if you meet and really click with a chica, whether she be a pro, non-pro, semi, whatever, and she really does dig you, you can spend entire days, evenings, nights, multiple days, etc, for really whatever gratuity you'd like to help her with.

Of course this is assuming a guy with personal and communication skills enough to grab a chica's heart.

In SXM, to hang with a chica off campus (the club she works at) for any length of time, will cost mucho dinero.

Yes, the short time pops are like you say around $45 bucks, however, if you like the longer time GFE, without a time clock, it can get expensive.

I do dig both places though.
Medellin for the 'fat statues' and SXM for the French cuisine and the Dutch side play :)

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1126613]Now Ricker, you're not disparaging Lubbock women are you? Them big ole gals at Wal-Mart are great value if you look at it as price per pound.

Reef[/QUOTE]Hahaha, hey Reef aren't you running that Super Walmart now in Lima? :)

I read a report a year or so back here on the Medellin forum, where a young guy posted his long, well planned trip to Medellin.

I've tried to find it and have not been successful but one part I found interesting.

He refered to a "Madam" that he had called, who came over to his place to meet with him.

She came over with her "album" full of high-end girls.

The guy said that they were all high-end, many girls were famous but all were of a caliber that would rival Maxim magazine models.

These girls are supposedly not posted on the web for the world to see.

The Madam is discreet and things were professionally handled and his reported experience was very satisfied.

I've seen the escort sites with the blured out faces and read the bait and switch stories.

I'm not interested in that but would be grateful to anyone who could help me find contact info for the "Madam".

[QUOTE=Fabone; 1126789]I read a report a year or so back here on the Medellin forum, where a young guy posted his long, well planned trip to Medellin.

I've tried to find it and have not been successful but one part I found interesting.

He refered to a "Madam" that he had called, who came over to his place to meet with him.

She came over with her "album" full of high-end girls.

The guy said that they were all high-end, many girls were famous but all were of a caliber that would rival Maxim magazine models.

These girls are supposedly not posted on the web for the world to see.

The Madam is discreet and things were professionally handled and his reported experience was very satisfied.

I've seen the escort sites with the blured out faces and read the bait and switch stories.

I'm not interested in that but would be grateful to anyone who could help me find contact info for the "Madam". [/QUOTE]Fabone,

You may be referring to this report by Cubanut.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin&p=1079761&viewfull=1#post1079761[/url]

Also, check the related report#2710 by Jergens007
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?581-Cali-Reports&p=1040245&viewfull=1#post1040245[/url]

However, all these girls are available in Cali, not Medellin.

Bandy

[QUOTE=John Gault;1126656]The club you were in is called Las Americas I am almost positive. I have ducked down into the rooms there a few times. I even got a Spinner out of there that I still see.[/QUOTE]I think Maracaibo is correct. Both of them you have to dunk underneath the bar into the rooms. Maracaibo is the one with the stalls though.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1126467]With so many [B]better options [/B]at night there is no reason to go to Centro, even it it were safer. The risk reward is upside down. Cheap putas? Do the Centro casas in the daytime.

At night: You got Lunas, San Diego, the whole Mayorista, Fase II and a cupla others. Personally a newbie on a tour of centro at night with an established "tour" means you could be made that much easier. Obviously the tour guide you mention is one guy who hopefully didn't start doing this yesterday (although a recent poster here hawking his services has made some comments newbies would not make. But I digress)

Centro is a criminals "stick and move" area. Tons of escape routes.[/QUOTE]Never heard of anyone have any problems going to the Centro stripclubs at night. Half the price of drinks and chicas vs the high end clubs. Sometimes finding a diamond in the rough. What's not to like? The three stripclubs are a couple of doors down from each other. Always taxis out front. Just don't stray from the 3. I actually ran down the block and around the corner to another one. I think it has since closed (it sucked).

[quote=holeranger; 1126522]she was clawing the mattress, had an orgasm and several minutes later me to.

a pleasant surprise, hot little girl with some skills. reminded me of women in brazil!

worth a peek. enjoy! [/quote]you stud! but she had just one orgasm? some guys on here make sure they always give multiple orgasms or they will loose face.

The address of Loutron is: Calle 12 sur # 10-245.

At near which intersection does the casa lie?

I don't see on the map the crossroads of Calle 12 sur and "something" number 10.

Since Loutron means bath let me make a question.

Does each room in any casa has a shower ensuite?

No it wasn't the same quote but Cubanut's is very similar.

This guy was a young asian mix from Hollywood.

Said he was in the film business to some extent and compared the Colombiana girls to LA girls.

I think he went back and deleted the post.

I'm sure he was in Medellin based on the details of the report, but to your point. Maybe he jumped over to Cali during his trip.

Anyway, he really enjoyed the service and put a nice post together.

[QUOTE=Bandy; 1126837]Fabone,

You may be referring to this report by Cubanut.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin&p=1079761&viewfull=1#post1079761[/url]

Also, check the related report#2710 by Jergens007.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?581-Cali-Reports&p=1040245&viewfull=1#post1040245[/url]

However, all these girls are available in Cali, not Medellin.

Bandy[/QUOTE]

A while back I was on vacation in Medellin, staying at the Art Hotel, right near and below Lleras. It's nice, comfy, but not really chica-friendly, because it's a high-class place, and some of the girls look out of place. But the rooms are nice, and believe it or not it's got an artsy-cement decor goin' on. One day, when I'd already had a morning delight, I had a late lunch with two girls, friends and well-known working girls. We met at the Juan Valdez coffee house in Lleras, mostly fellow gringos, but in awe of my two friends. I asked both of them to come because they are both friends, and I wanted to take them to eat at nearby Mondongos, and they are friends with each other. One was on time, the other late, but the 2nd girl, although late, arrived with this lassez faire style which was very attractive regardless of the clock.

We walked over to Mondongos, has a very nice lunch, they talked mostly with each other, both very cute. After, we went to the Art Hotel and sat on the first floor, breakfast-coffee area, and had a drink. I inquired if I could take them both up, but the hotel policy was only one. I don't recall if we flipped a coin or what, but I went up with the one I liked best and hadn't been with in a while, giving the other taxi money.

The one I was with, I explained to her that I was leched out, and she could shower or what have you, but that was it. She did shower, nice hot water there, and artsy somewhat luxurious rooms. When she finished she put back on her clothes, really a track suit or sweat suit (which looked good on her). And she asked me for taxi money. I protested, why taxi money, she hadn't done anything? She said you said you didn't want to do anything. I said, well, I changed my mind. So she took off her clothes and laid down on the bed, and said do what you will.

So I did, and she has an awesome body, which most of you are already familiar with, and I paid attention to most all of it, and then made very good love to her. She took off the condom, and remarked, poca leche (not much). That's true, but I was very happy, and she was happy too I believe. I walked her down, and down to Parque Poblado, and she invited me to the Zoologico, and I declined. Now it's been a long time since I've seen her, and I miss her. That was a memorable, pretty wonderful phuck, which resonates with me still.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1126889]Lima, no it's Machu Picchu that we're building it. Just got to knock down a few more of these old, crappy brick huts.

Truth, justice and the American way!

Reef[/QUOTE]You guys better hurry and get it finished as the yanks are coming!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbN7yl2_fM[/url]

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1126864]Never heard of anyone have any problems going to the Centro stripclubs at night. Half the price of drinks and chicas vs the high end clubs. Sometimes finding a diamond in the rough. What's not to like?[/QUOTE]You want to go? Go ahead. I don't go anymore (at night) since Bernal got extradited (shortly thereafter the owner of Fase II was gunned down right in front La Ejecutiva). Before that not a problem.

There are other options, that's all I'm saying.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1126864]... I actually ran down the block and around the corner to another one. I think it has since closed (it sucked).[/QUOTE]If that was Las Gatas that was my favourite ones. Kinda in the middle of the block around the corner on the left hand side. A long stage on the right had wall when you walked in. Lots of great girls including Yadi with the big tits no kids. The rooms were REALLY nice for a place like that. Most of the music was rock and it was not all that smokey. They seemd to attract girls new to the business sweeites, not like Las Americas which has more hardened pros who work and / or got kicked out of the other places.

[QUOTE=Travel Spirit; 1126900]The address of Loutron is: Calle 12 sur # 10-245.

At near which intersection does the casa lie?

I don't see on the map the crossroads of Calle 12 sur and "something" number 10.

Since Loutron means bath let me make a question.

Does each room in any casa has a shower ensuite?[/QUOTE]From your post I am guess you have never been there before. Yes to the shower quesiton, but most all of the casas have showers in the rooms. Just a friendly piece of advice about Loutron: you can do better for less is my advice to you and the prevailing attitude on the board. I'm talking about 75% less at other casas or areas.

Do some research and you'll find a better value for the exact or even better service. The girls at Loutron have a reputation of being."cold"

New Life is my pick.

Good luck

[quote=chesrep001; 1126918]a while back i was on vacation in medellin, staying at the art hotel, right near and below lleras. it's nice, comfy, but not really chica-friendly, because it's a high-class place, and some of the girls look out of place. but the rooms are nice, and believe it or not it's got an artsy-cement decor goin' on. one day, when i'd already had a morning delight, i had a late lunch with two girls, friends and well-known working girls. we met at the juan valdez coffee house in lleras, mostly fellow gringos, but in awe of my two friends. i asked both of them to come because they are both friends, and i wanted to take them to eat at nearby mondongos, and they are friends with each other. one was on time, the other late, but the 2nd girl, although late, arrived with this lassez faire style which was very attractive regardless of the clock.

we walked over to mondongos, has a very nice lunch, they talked mostly with each other, both very cute. after, we went to the art hotel and sat on the first floor, breakfast-coffee area, and had a drink. i inquired if i could take them both up, but the hotel policy was only one. i don't recall if we flipped a coin or what, but i went up with the one i liked best and hadn't been with in a while, giving the other taxi money.

the one i was with, i explained to her that i was leched out, and she could shower or what have you, but that was it. she did shower, nice hot water there, and artsy somewhat luxurious rooms. when she finished she put back on her clothes, really a track suit or sweat suit (which looked good on her). and she asked me for taxi money. i protested, why taxi money, she hadn't done anything? she said you said you didn't want to do anything. i said, well, i changed my mind. so she took off her clothes and laid down on the bed, and said do what you will.

so i did, and she has an awesome body, which most of you are already familiar with, and i paid attention to most all of it, and then made very good love to her. she took off the condom, and remarked, poca leche (not much). that's true, but i was very happy, and she was happy too i believe. i walked her down, and down to parque poblado, and she invited me to the zoologico, and i declined. now it's been a long time since i've seen her, and i miss her. that was a memorable, pretty wonderful phuck, which resonates with me still. [/quote]

are you smoking those magical cigarettes again?? :)

It was deleted because the spell checker.

Repost it with a space between each letter. That should fix it.

[QUOTE=Crankdownonit;1126420]Took a tour with ************.com and showed me centro at night. This is not something I would do alone or with no experience but all in all it was packed with adventure on every level. I'm going to take the tour to Rio Claro next week.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm. I think that Colombia is a haven for anglosaxon men. If you are in to culture- go to Medellin- if you are a beachboy- go to Cartagena. Colombia has a variety of climates and different sub-cultures and also, a etnichal mix of girls.

In this country you meet acomodating people and it's easy to make friends. And to get girlfriends. And prepagos of splendid quality!

Colombian girl are beautiful. They often like angosaxon men and hot girls even take the iniative themselves.

Since I have lived in Argentina, Uruguay and Peru before I notice a strikeing difference in favor for Colombia, only matched by brasilian girls.

Don't hesitate. Go to Medellin!

Leave these men alone, every time someone believes they had a good time some skeptic steps in. I ve satsfied so many ladies just with my loving I can't count them all. No one. Better accuse me of being in kiddie land. We got to good thing here we don't need cynics. Just good accurate reports. Men Keep reporting don't let anyone get you down.

[quote=black hawk69;1127059]this colombia board has to be the joke of all boards these days, as very little information is shared other than fantasyland stories, and guys talking about how great they are, how the girls are drooling all over them, and how much they satisfy the girls sexually. it is totally kiddieland. this absolutely sums of the colombia section. how things have changed over the past couple of years.[/quote]agreed. i think there should be a chit chat thread where all this can take place. if i had never been to colombia and was looking to the medellin thread for support i would be very frustrated.

i've heard through the grapevine that centro casa girls all demand tips now? i am also curious to know who offers night tours in the centro and how that works?

there are guys handing out flyers for casas all over centro. somebody should be accumulating these and keeping them up to date. just mho.

hopefully cali will be a new experience for me in august.

So, I've been reading the boards and this isn't my first rodeo but since my experience is all Rio. I was hoping to get some experienced insight form the local MDE crowd.

I've been reviewing the numerous Escort WebSites and wanted to see besdies GFE4WEEK, which site you recommended and had experience with.

1. Are the girls in add same that you get?

2. Are they friendly GFE types or purely mechanical.

3. Are their posted fees realty or do they nickel and dime you?

I'm trying to determine if I'd like to do a 1 a day website to guarantee the type of paisa I want besides of course doing the scavenger hunt of casas and strip clubs.

Okay one more quick. How likely do 1 week mongers get the opportunity to tell the 1st day or 2nd day Lady that she should come out with friends for fun and they acutally meet up with you? Yes I'm a nice guy to them but speak poquito spanish.

hi guys,

lately some of the girls from la mayorista are stopping by my place, alias frank's place, and ringing the door bell. all you have to do is go out to the balcony, look at the "cuties", and if you like them, let them come up to party.

for the last month i had a couple of hard core mongers who brought as many as 30 "cuties" in a 7-10 day period, and one of them over 50 in the month that he stayed at my place. some of the girls got used to comming to the apartment, ringing the door bell and hanging out. i won't even get into the orgies these two guys had. but that's what is all about, having fun. they did things with these girls you can only dream of.

they showed me hundreds of pics. and video clips. i was surprised that la mayorista girls let them take all those pics. and video clips. i guess is because they gave them a lot of work, they used them a lot, ha, ha. they did on average 3-4 cuties a day, each. everybody was happy, except my neighbors, oops, but they got over it.

so, thanks to mr. p and j, you guys might be getting some home deliveries. also, the massage therapists and the full body massage girls from lina's beauty salon and massage parlour (lina is wilson's wife from del tio restaurant) make house calls. i'll be leaving some brochures or cards. so, even though i'm going back to tampa for a couple of months, the party continues at my place, whatever you want to make of it, like my guests mr. p and j.

frank casio!

The Medellin List report has a lot of what you are asking for. Also WorlTravel69 has that cover, along with a few other lists with maps out there. I visit some of those casas and have dozens of those flyers and cards in the cookie jar at MY Place. But the girls in those places change daily and it's mostly a "hit or miss" type of deal, mostly "miss"."New life" and "Sexys" are the most consistant with a larger selection, but even these two have some off days. I mostly get dissappointed when I visit some of those new "casas", you might find 3-4 girls with 3 "scaggs" and one doable. I'm always lloking to try new things, but those have been a dissappointment.

Frank Casio!

"There are guys handing out flyers for casas all over centro. Somebody should be accumulating these and keeping them up to date. Just MHO."

Casa Verde / Divinas

CL 58, #49-68.

The layout looked liked a restaurant or maybe I was at the wrong location, no address posted outside. As I entered, two girls were walking to the

Back. I'll pass on those two. The woman I spoke to told me no girls were available and to check back later. Hmmmm! Was it me or maybe the two cops on the opposite side of the street that got her nervous. No problem, somebody will be glad to take my $.

A short walk away. Pass the trannies and on to the next stop.

Geishas.

CL 58, #51-40.

Close to the Prado metro stop, only a few steps away after you exit the station. Off to the right you will see a few vendors, behind them is a restaurant, a few doors down you will see the bldg. (#51-40). With a winding stair case. Go up to the 2nd floor, you will see the sign. Inside the selection was light. 4 girls working but one caught my eye, obviously a newbie. Her name was Sarah (a gem).19 yo, on the job for 3 weeks. Cute, tight little body with no signs of punching out a few babies. She was shy, reserved and didn't talk much. Inside the room, a little CBJ, average but she is learning.

Next some missionary, it was tight on entry (had to stop and lube again) as she moaned, next some cowgirl which she liked then a little doggy which brought her to orgasm. The total. 35, 000 COP for 30 mins, they will show you the fee schedule in a book on entry. 1 girl. 2 girls. Etc.

I blew my load and gave her a 5K tip as an incentive to hang in there. Just average but maybe some of guys can stop by to help her learn the trade and escape her shell.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1127207]So, I've been reading the boards and this isn't my first rodeo but since my experience is all Rio. I was hoping to get some experienced insight form the local MDE crowd.

I've been reviewing the numerous Escort WebSites and wanted to see besdies GFE4WEEK, which site you recommended and had experience with.

1. Are the girls in add same that you get?

2. Are they friendly GFE types or purely mechanical.

3. Are their posted fees realty or do they nickel and dime you?

I'm trying to determine if I'd like to do a 1 a day website to guarantee the type of paisa I want besides of course doing the scavenger hunt of casas and strip clubs.

Okay one more quick. How likely do 1 week mongers get the opportunity to tell the 1st day or 2nd day Lady that she should come out with friends for fun and they acutally meet up with you? Yes I'm a nice guy to them but speak poquito spanish.[/QUOTE]You are going on a 5 day vacation. 1st time in MDE, and automatically you catapult yourself into the highly exhalted category of 1 week monger? That's not easy to get into and is something kinda,"Earned". Like being Grand Poobah at the Water Buffalo Lodge.

You have asked about the escort websites 3 times now.

[B]You[/B] Do the escort website recon. Get back to us. Stop asking about it every week. Nobody knows, get it?

You had 6 posters already respond in depth to your questions for your 5 day stint. You seem to want to do something different. Suerte!

Here is your response to another poster after the second time you asked:

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep;1121987]Breathe man. LOL it was a whopping one post for claification and yes I'll hop on a plane and figure it out. Just was curious about the formal escort sites if they were scams or quality and how they matched to the casas and strip clubs. No complication here, like most times its a scavenger hunt hit or miss[/QUOTE]Dude. You keep answering your own question and then come back a week later and ask it again.

YMMV with any and every woman and with the same woman on a different day.

I can't wait to read your report on the escort websites. But you and your posts scream one sided. I doubt you'll post anything. And don't mention this "other ISG handle" that you used to have on the RIO board or the [I]"I've been reading the boards ". [/I] Nobody buys it. If you have another ISG handle you can get it reset.

The answer to your last question is that all depends on you and how flakey the girl is. If you are throwing around money you have a better shot. The girls here are pretty flakey.

By the way I'm being nice.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1127255]You are going on a 5 day vacation. 1st time in MDE, and automatically you catapult yourself into the highly exhalted category of 1 week monger? That's not easy to get into and is something kinda,"Earned". Like being Grand Poobah at the Water Buffalo Lodge.

You have asked about the escort websites 3 times now.

[B]You[/B] Do the escort website recon. Get back to us. Stop asking about it every week. Nobody knows, get it?

You had 6 posters already respond in depth to your questions for your 5 day stint. You seem to want to do something different. Suerte!

Here is your response to another poster after the second time you asked:

Dude. You keep answering your own question and then come back a week later and ask it again.

YMMV with any and every woman and with the same woman on a different day.

I can't wait to read your report on the escort websites. But you and your posts scream one sided. I doubt you'll post anything. And don't mention this "other ISG handle" that you used to have on the RIO board or the [I]"I've been reading the boards ". [/I] Nobody buys it. If you have another ISG handle you can get it reset.

The answer to your last question is that all depends on you and how flakey the girl is. If you are throwing around money you have a better shot. The girls here are pretty flakey.

By the way I'm being nice. [/QUOTE]Please, these personal attacks don't do anything to advance this thread. Please refrain from this kind of conduct. It is a distraction and completely unproductive.

Only good energy!

How much more info do people need? There's World Traveler's comprehensive info, info re apartments, hotels, La Mayorista, El Centro, Casa Blanca, a Google map with all the casas pinpointed.. The only add'l info might be a real-time tracker of when the centro casas change addresses, or which girls move to a different casa. The girls could wear a GPS maybe.

As far as fantasy goes, what I wrote was no fantasy, it was just a good time. I've had bad times, I choose not to write about them.

I'm so excited, I will be making my first trip to Medellin next Wednesday and I can't wait, I've already have about 23 contacts from Romance Latina waiting for me, but this is the one that I like the most!

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1991154[/url]

I've been sending emails back and forth with her but I don't know that she's a prepago, and I don't want to ask and risk insulting her, so, I want to know if anyone has been with her before, please let me know, if you have then I can go forward and ask her out expecting more than just company!

Please let me know guys!

BTW, I will be staying at Casa Blanca 2, I will be easy to spot, I'm guessing that I will be the only Mexican staying there, let me know if you need a wingman, I don't know my way arround but I can speak spanish that mus be worth something.

[QUOTE=Jim0129; 1127359]I'm so excited, I will be making my first trip to Medellin next Wednesday and I can't wait, I've already have about 23 contacts from Romance Latina waiting for me, but this is the one that I like the most!

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1991154[/url]

I've been sending emails back and forth with her but I don't know that she's a prepago, and I don't want to ask and risk insulting her, so, I want to know if anyone has been with her before, please let me know, if you have then I can go forward and ask her out expecting more than just company!

Please let me know guys!

BTW, I will be staying at Casa Blanca 2, I will be easy to spot, I'm guessing that I will be the only Mexican staying there, let me know if you need a wingman, I don't know my way arround but I can speak spanish that mus be worth something. [/QUOTE]Do not know if she is P4P, tho I suspect it. She is also one of my RL friends so let me know. I have not had much email exchange with her so I cannot share that insight. I am sure you will have a memorable 1st trip to Medellin. The Paisa are wonderful, know how to have a good time while showing you one. Please also post your observations about how the new rules effect spare Paisas hanging around CB1. I realize you seem to be pre-arranging your dates, but I suspect some may never show and you might be looking for a spare. LOL

[quote=chesrep001; 1127332]how much more info do people need? there's world traveler's comprehensive info, info re apartments, hotels, la mayorista, el centro, casa blanca, a google map with all the casas pinpointed. the only add'l info might be a real-time tracker of when the centro casas change addresses, or which girls move to a different casa. the girls could wear a gps maybe.

as far as fantasy goes, what i wrote was no fantasy, it was just a good time. i've had bad times, i choose not to write about them. [/quote]{the girls could wear a gps maybe. } very good, although i think if they are having their period then it should automaticly turn off.

[QUOTE=Jim0129; 1127359]I'm so excited, I will be making my first trip to Medellin next Wednesday and I can't wait, I've already have about 23 contacts from Romance Latina waiting for me, but this is the one that I like the most!

[url]http://www.romancelatina.com/es/member/profile.php?profile_id=1991154[/url]

I've been sending emails back and forth with her but I don't know that she's a prepago, and I don't want to ask and risk insulting her, so, I want to know if anyone has been with her before, please let me know, if you have then I can go forward and ask her out expecting more than just company!

Please let me know guys!

BTW, I will be staying at Casa Blanca 2, I will be easy to spot, I'm guessing that I will be the only Mexican staying there, let me know if you need a wingman, I don't know my way arround but I can speak spanish that mus be worth something.[/QUOTE]95% of the Medellin based girls on RL are prepagos. You will find out for sure when you tell her you are staying at Casa Blanca, if she's not a prepago she is going to refuse to go there.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1127527]{The girls could wear a GPS maybe. } Very good, although I think if [B]they are having their period then it should automaticly turn off[/B].[/QUOTE]Or if their kid is sick or their mom needs surgery or if their cell phone was just stolen, ya know stuff like that.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1127313]Please, these personal attacks don't do anything to advance this thread. Please refrain from this kind of conduct. It is a distraction and completely unproductive.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]That was not an attack. Please read the board and see he has asked this question 3 times already and has rec'd multiple in depth responses (none from you by the way) , talk about not doing anything to advance the thread.

People barked at him the second time with the same question. Stop being Ghandi and inform yourself beforehand.

Why don't we just come up with a Newbie Thread containing a few posts with just information that could supplement WT69 lists which are only lists, although excellent lists.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1127683]That was not an attack. Please read the board and see he has asked this question 3 times already and has rec'd multiple in depth responses (none from you by the way) , talk about not doing anything to advance the thread.

People barked at him the second time with the same question. Stop being Ghandi and inform yourself beforehand.

Why don't we just come up with a Newbie Thread containing a few posts with just information that could supplement WT69 lists which are only lists, although excellent lists. [/QUOTE]We were all newbies once. My respectful suggestion that these personal attacks do nothing to advance this thread is really illustrated by your writing. I don't question your judgment that repetitions of the same question occurred. It was a personal attack for multiple inquires. And it was you that chose to call him to task.

Look, most people are doing the best that they can. Some chose to engage negatively. My point is that approach is not only unpleasant to experience, but it is not productive. It advances nothing. I don't pretend to be Ghandi, but I do respect his wisdom, and try to apply it in my life. I don't trust any fucking preacher that has more than two suits, so Ghandi (with the possible exception of Dr. King, just because he was a monger, too) was the last spiritual leader than has any credibility with me. Please, consider being a little more like Ghandi. I think you will like yourself better. More directly though, I just trying to suggest that we all act like adults here and stop this sophomoric criticism of another poster.

Now, in order to make this distracting discussion less relevant and to make peace, I have a question for a proposed diversion. I have a butt load of photos of some of the hottest young women in Medellin. Not Cubanut quality. That dude has an eye for the lens. But pretty damn good. But, they were from a trip a couple of years ago. Should I still post them?

Only good energy!

Well, everything is ready, my bags are packed, I will be arriving in Medellin next Wednesday! And sudenly, something came to mind, does anyone here is down in Medellin right now? If you are, How's the weather? Do I bring a bathing suit and short sleeves of a jacket and long sleeves?

[QUOTE=Jim0129;1127829]Well, everything is ready, my bags are packed, I will be arriving in Medellin next Wednesday! And sudenly, something came to mind, does anyone here is down in Medellin right now? If you are, How's the weather? Do I bring a bathing suit and short sleeves of a jacket and long sleeves?[/QUOTE]Well. MDE is called the City of Eternal Spring for good reason. Short sleeves may be in order some days, and not others and often it is cool at night where you may want a light jacket. I always bring a light water resistent jacket and it seems to fit the need just perfectly. Plus you will encounter some rain even though it is at the tail end of the warm / dry period. But whatever the case, neither pools at CB1 or 2 are heated, so the water stays pretty cold all year long. If you find that refreshing, bring your suit. I just find it very cold.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1127255]You are going on a 5 day vacation. 1st time in MDE, and automatically you catapult yourself into the highly exhalted category of 1 week monger? That's not easy to get into and is something kinda,"Earned". Like being Grand Poobah at the Water Buffalo Lodge.

You have asked about the escort websites 3 times now.

[B]You[/B] Do the escort website recon. Get back to us. Stop asking about it every week. Nobody knows, get it?

You had 6 posters already respond in depth to your questions for your 5 day stint. You seem to want to do something different. Suerte!

Here is your response to another poster after the second time you asked:

Dude. You keep answering your own question and then come back a week later and ask it again.

YMMV with any and every woman and with the same woman on a different day.

I can't wait to read your report on the escort websites. But you and your posts scream one sided. I doubt you'll post anything. And don't mention this "other ISG handle" that you used to have on the RIO board or the [I]"I've been reading the boards ". [/I] Nobody buys it. If you have another ISG handle you can get it reset.

The answer to your last question is that all depends on you and how flakey the girl is. If you are throwing around money you have a better shot. The girls here are pretty flakey.

By the way I'm being nice. [/QUOTE]LOL, some people are sensitive. Wow! So, for a little clarification and yes you did Answer my question somewhat since NO ONE else did. 3 times, yep original post, good responses but nothing on Web Escorts. So a 2nd in middle of post after getting my head bit off and now a 3rd with its own individual post just in case some people with info only check out boards every couple of weeks and don't scroll back reading everything.

As for earned you've got to be kidding me. Try Marines for years, I've worked my way through many different countries P4P, so sorry if using the word Monger hurts your delicate sensibilities. How about I'm coming for a weeks vacation. But since I have a career and am not retired, getting out is Very Hard for me. Not like the Marines or living in Texas were I went to Mexico over 15 years every few months.

And your last ASSumption. Old handle, try getting divorced and wife keeps e-mail address. There is no Resetting it, so I had to start a new one, but yes even with my Rio excursions I only posted about 20 times over a few years.

So, my takeaway is it seems the old guard, of I practically live in MDE have no interest in the casual visitor who may get out a couple of times a year. Sorry to overanalyze my vacation on here. But its my first trip in 3 years to a new area and I'm probably being OCD. But yes some tough love has helped me get over the initial nerves of getting back out and just jumping in.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1127659]95% of the Medellin based girls on RL are prepagos. You will find out for sure when you tell her you are staying at Casa Blanca, if she's not a prepago she is going to refuse to go there.[/QUOTE]Or if once you get in the taxi and you tell her where you are staying, she takes over giving the cab driver directions and knows where the bathrooms are once you get there jaja LOL. Looks pretty bandida to me. When they get all of those cheesy glamor shots types of provocative pictures to attract attention you can bet she's not at 7am mass on Sunday.

This is the kind of perfect advice for new people to understand and relate how to qualify a girl. Thank you! I too am on CC and RL, which is a first since all other trips I just showed up and learned the ropes but then again I had time to know I could get back regularly, and this time is a big trial for me to determine if I want to get back into this travel style, since I'm skating around work some to do it and have obligations that make travel difficult.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1127659]95% of the Medellin based girls on RL are prepagos. You will find out for sure when you tell her you are staying at Casa Blanca, if she's not a prepago she is going to refuse to go there.[/QUOTE]

Now, in order to make this distracting discussion less relevant and to make peace, I have a question for a proposed diversion. I have a butt load of photos of some of the hottest young women in Medellin. Not Cubanut quality. That dude has an eye for the lens. But pretty damn good. But, they were from a trip a couple of years ago. Should I still post them?

Only good energy! [/QUOTE]Yes please, pictures are always welcome!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1127978]Or if once you get in the taxi and you tell her where you are staying, she takes over giving the cab driver directions and knows where the bathrooms are once you get there jaja LOL. Looks pretty bandida to me. When they get all of those cheesy glamor shots types of provocative pictures to attract attentions you can bet she's not at 7am mass on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Hahaha MHL exactly. Or if you look at their profile and the age range of men they are seeking is 18-80, LOL.

Thank's Palermo, I'm going to use your strategy, I will call her the moment I get there and ask her out explaining my plans, if she doesn't want to go back to my hotel I will have my answer, very helpful and a time saver.

[QUOTE=Palermo; 1127975]I have been chatting briefly with her too, but have not yet met her, and since I won't be back in MDE for a few weeks, if ever, I haven't asked too many questions.

My bet is she is a prepago, as manizales I think said. 95% on there are. My approach with the ones I wasn't sure about was to tell them my plan for our 'date' was a drink or two and then back to my apt. That makes it pretty obvious without mentioning payments or amounts.

Once you see their reaction to that, you'll know all you need to.

A very few would immediately ask me 'how much? ', and those I usually dropped, I don't like the very professional ones much. (I know some here would rather know exact details of costs and what's included, I'm not one of them)

The ones that just said 'sounds good' I went out with. Rarely any mention of amounts before, during or after. The ones that called me incessantly every day after for weeks I knew I overpaid, LOL.

Early on I was chatting with one girl and when she wanted clarification about exactly what the date was about, I got tired of beating around the Bush and told her 'look, I'll pay you, ok? ' and her response was kind of funny, she said 'please don't say that, it makes me sound like a prepago, let's say that you are helping me out with my studies'.

I know that's just a nonsensical distinction, but I understand where she's coming from and I prefer that kind of girl. She was quite a lot of fun, but a few pounds heavier than her pic looked, so I didn't see her more than once. She's a fairly well known girl too, I have seen her name and pic on here several times. [/QUOTE]

Ok, thank you for the info. I will bring a mix of shirts, a light jacket and no bathing suit!

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;1127931]Well. MDE is called the City of Eternal Spring for good reason. Short sleeves may be in order some days, and not others and often it is cool at night where you may want a light jacket. I always bring a light water resistent jacket and it seems to fit the need just perfectly. Plus you will encounter some rain even though it is at the tail end of the warm / dry period. But whatever the case, neither pools at CB1 or 2 are heated, so the water stays pretty cold all year long. If you find that refreshing, bring your suit. I just find it very cold.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1127977]LOL, some people are sensitive. Wow! So, for a little clarification and yes you did Answer my question somewhat since NO ONE else did. 3 times, yep original post, good responses but nothing on Web Escorts. So a 2nd in middle of post after getting my head bit off and now a 3rd with its own individual post just in case some people with info only check out boards every couple of weeks and don't scroll back reading everything.

As for earned you've got to be kidding me. Try Marines for years, I've worked my way through many different countries P4P, so sorry if using the word Monger hurts your delicate sensibilities. How about I'm coming for a weeks vacation. But since I have a career and am not retired, getting out is Very Hard for me. Not like the Marines or living in Texas were I went to Mexico over 15 years every few months.

And your last ASSumption. Old handle, try getting divorced and wife keeps e-mail address. There is no Resetting it, so I had to start a new one, but yes even with my Rio excursions I only posted about 20 times over a few years.

So, my takeaway is it seems the old guard, of I practically live in MDE have no interest in the casual visitor who may get out a couple of times a year. Sorry to overanalyze my vacation on here. But its my first trip in 3 years to a new area and I'm probably being OCD. But yes some tough love has helped me get over the initial nerves of getting back out and just jumping in. [/QUOTE]Me sensitive? Surely you jest. Your question was a answered buy multiple posters (me, ricker, DC Fan and gogo) and a conversation even ensued.

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Rodeo indirectly chimed in.

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As Did John Gault.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1121652&viewfull=1#post1121652[/url]

Gogo "Read my orig response"

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1121704&viewfull=1#post1121704[/url]

DC Fan "Read my orig response"

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1121786#post1121786[/url]

The earning thing has nothing to do with your past life or how you saved the drowning child. This is a monger board not a Jerrry Falwell blog. The earning was a joke that had to do with your 5 days vs. The fact you called yourself a "1 week monger". It was a joke and even had a reference to the Flintstones.

I left you a totally detailed reponse. (please click on this one, anyone who thinks I [I]"live in MDE have no interest in the casual visitor who may get out a couple of times a year" [/I])

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1121497&viewfull=1#post1121497[/url]

That is as long as a book. I help out the casual visitor frequently. Your problem is you want everything spoon fed, you're lazy and you will continue to ask the same question over and over again until someone gives you the freebie you think exists. Gogo and myself already answered your question.

[B]Legal[/B], it was not an attack at all and whatever it was it was not because[I] "of multiple inquiries", as you assumed. [/I]It was because of "multiple answers". There is a difference.

He was answered, in depth and none of the answers were "RTTF". I know you are not privy to any of this. So, in order to be an adult and deponstrate how Zen you are why not lead by example and you do his homework for him. You go back and dig through the posts, do a search and find out what this guy who will be here for 5 days is looking for while he sits on the couch playing X-box. OK? That would [I]"advance the thread"[/I] As you suggest, a little contribution from you, that would be nice. Oh, and no cheating by you. You are not allowed to review the already submitted thorough reponses.

By the way this was posted with good energy and peace and love. Please read it with that mindset as the hatred and sensitivity you both perceive comes from within yourselves.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;1127987]Ok, thank you for the info. I will bring a mix of shirts, a light jacket and no bathing suit![/QUOTE]1 Long sleeved Tee. It may get a little brisk at night. Also have a button down long or short sleeve shirt for the fancy nights. Shorts are OK for comfort but screams tourist. Mostly everyone wears jeans. Even doctors. Don't tuck anything in to your jeans. It can get hot at times here until mid March. If you are staying at a place with a pool bring that bathing suit. The real feel temp is 75-82 during the day. Low-med humidity and after 8PM around 60-70. Cooler the higher up you go.

Hi friends, tomorrow I will reach Laureles and I will stay there for 8 dias. I will sleep at Av. Nutibara. I'd like to get some girlfriend experience. Can you tell me some places where there is action in Laureles? I'd like ti find chicas on the street because I don't like very much drinking. I like more to meet girls on the street and speak with them.
I know Av. La 70 is a good spot, what are other hot spot where I can meet hot action?
Thanks for your precious news.

Can anyone give any input about this hotel. Is it chica friendly? Staying there in April for a business and some side mongering. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Tasty1;1128161]Can anyone give any input about this hotel. Is it chica friendly? Staying there in April for a business and some side mongering. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Every hotel in Medellin is not looking to play morality police, however I'm guessing you should discretely get your guests in and out of there, as the place is fairly upscale and not specificly catering to mongers, its been done here many times, but Colombia is not Thailand,

Been to Medellin once. Loved San Diego Club, had luck at one casa that I can't remember the name of, and went out to some of the better local clubs (I'm 30, decent looking, speak decent spanish) and managed to get lucky the old fashioned way. Had some 6-7 quality girls from other P4P spots.

Stayed at one of the apartments advertised here (pobladorentals) .2 bedroom with a deck@Lleras. Outstanding. Had Ruben pick me up and Jimmy drive me around a bit. Jimmy talks too much but both are good guys.

Hated Fase II. Went twice. Disappointed both times. Didn't see anything over an "8" there.

I did notice there are MUCH hotter girls out in Parque Lleras / Barrio Colombia clubs than any of the P4P casas / clubs I went to. I've been all around this board and am going back to MDE in a few weeks. I'd like to set up some higher-end action but am afraid of bait and switch and / or getting robbed. I don't mind spending $$$ if there is real quality and an opportunity to make a connection.

There is a lack of information about this topic here and if anyone is reading this and holding back info please share.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Surgicalrep; 1127977]LOL, some people are sensitive. Wow! So, for a little clarification and yes you did Answer my question somewhat since NO ONE else did. 3 times, yep original post, good responses but nothing on Web Escorts. So a 2nd in middle of post after getting my head bit off and now a 3rd with its own individual post just in case some people with info only check out boards every couple of weeks and don't scroll back reading everything.

As for earned you've got to be kidding me. Try Marines for years, I've worked my way through many different countries P4P, so sorry if using the word Monger hurts your delicate sensibilities. How about I'm coming for a weeks vacation. But since I have a career and am not retired, getting out is Very Hard for me. Not like the Marines or living in Texas were I went to Mexico over 15 years every few months.

And your last ASSumption. Old handle, try getting divorced and wife keeps e-mail address. There is no Resetting it, so I had to start a new one, but yes even with my Rio excursions I only posted about 20 times over a few years.

So, my takeaway is it seems the old guard, of I practically live in MDE have no interest in the casual visitor who may get out a couple of times a year. Sorry to overanalyze my vacation on here. But its my first trip in 3 years to a new area and I'm probably being OCD. But yes some tough love has helped me get over the initial nerves of getting back out and just jumping in. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tasty1;1128161]Can anyone give any input about this hotel. Is it chica friendly? Staying there in April for a business and some side mongering. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I stayed there about three years ago. Brought a chica back, kept her overnight, no problems.

Come to think of it, I've never had trouble bringing chicas into Colombian hotels, even at higher-end places like the Santa Clara in Cartagena. Just make sure your girl has her cedula with her, as sometimes the front desk will insist on recording your girl's info just to be safe.