East China - Shanghai

Just returned from Hai lang. Pretty Easy to find.

Lineup was ok, probably around 15 girls in the range from 5-8, some with quite big boobs, but I'm more interested in the petite ones. So Number 931 (or 913, Blue number) from Hunan, pretty Short and for me a definite 8 in terms of Body and Face was my Choice.

As it was my First Sauna experience I was maybe expecting too much, but it was just ma ma hu hu. Shower only together with her in room Not downstairs. After a good cleaning went to the soapy massage, which was nice. Action in bed later was also Kind of professional, no real GFE. No dfk, as I wanted to DATY she allowed, but was Kind of pushing back. BBBJ with fire&ice was very nice. As I'm not too well endowed (European standardsize) I was too Big for her, at least she told me so.

Anyway, nice 90 min experiene, but Most probably I won't repeat in the near future. Damage 880rmb. Didn't use the relaxing room before or After.

Yes, this is the same girl. The German's name was Ralf. He's been out of the picture since 2006. Your answers have really saved me.

My last question: did you see her in August 2012?

[QUOTE=Peter71; 1344483]Hi Albion,

I remember about her car, red color and of japanese brand. About her she told me she had lived with a german guy. Regarding her specific feature I don't remember it, tell me it if I remembered it. I hope you have help in my answers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Albion0520; 1344644]Yes, this is the same girl. The German's name was Ralf. He's been out of the picture since 2006. Your answers have really saved me.

My last question: did you see her in August 2012?[/QUOTE]Indeed I met her in August. Why this question?

Hengshan area is a nice place to chill out and have a beer or dinner. But the scam on the street is really annoying. Every 20 meters a guy is asking you "lady, sex, massage?)

At the corner Goaan road there is a MP. I decided to try it. 90 min oil massage for 198 MRB. It was around 5. 00 pm and only one girl was available in her 30s I think 5/10. The massage was ok. After she finished my back and I turned over she startet to touch my cock very often. Then she made the hand sign for HJ for 200. Too much I said. I don't like HJ anyway. Asked her for BJ. She declined! Again and again she touched my cock and asked for 200. Really pushy and annoying. I had to make it clear several times that I'm not interested. At the end I couöthe't even shower as the place was under renovation!

Never again

One of the most perfect trim I never found.

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1345451]Hengshan area is a nice place to chill out and have a beer or dinner. But the scam on the street is really annoying. Every 20 meters a guy is asking you "lady, sex, massage?)

At the corner Goaan road there is a MP. I decided to try it. 90 min oil massage for 198 MRB. It was around 5. 00 pm and only one girl was available in her 30s I think 5/10. The massage was ok. After she finished my back and I turned over she startet to touch my cock very often. Then she made the hand sign for HJ for 200. Too much I said. I don't like HJ anyway. Asked her for BJ. She declined! Again and again she touched my cock and asked for 200. Really pushy and annoying. I had to make it clear several times that I'm not interested. At the end I couöthe't even shower as the place was under renovation!

Never again[/QUOTE]Yea, reminds me of a girl in an MP on Qingzhen Road a couple years back, repeatedly kept telling her no to a HJ (while I'm massaging her wet c**t) , so she said BJ was available, but no FS (which is what I wanted) because she's married. Fortunately, another girl stepped in to handle me.

Has anybody tried 3some in BBS? Does it make sense at all or waste of money?

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1345793]Has anybody tried 3some in BBS? Does it make sense at all or waste of money?[/QUOTE]Don't waste your money. No G on G action. Just get in and out with a quick pound and release.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo;1345677]One of the most perfect trim I never found.[/QUOTE]Nemo,

Nice catch. What part of town did she come from? Was that a FS girl?

SH

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1345793]Has anybody tried 3some in BBS? Does it make sense at all or waste of money?[/QUOTE]If you want 4 hands on you, sure. Sometimes they work you simultaneously, sometimes tag team style. RARELY if ever do they work each other, so if you're looking for hot lesbo action chances are just about nil. If you still go for it, be prepared to direct their every move, otherwise one will just stand and watch as you're doing the other.

Peter71,

I've gone as far as I can in a public forum on this. If you change your account to accept private messages, I can let you know the whole story.

[QUOTE=Peter71;1345415]Indeed I met her in August. Why this question?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1345793]Has anybody tried 3some in BBS? Does it make sense at all or waste of money?[/QUOTE]I guess I m lucky, really lucky sometimes. I use this. (I dunno if bbs or what else) more than 1 year, good introduction from a local brother. I did several time 3some, but the 2 girls just payed with the boobs, and both were laughing. Total 100 rmb not asked just my present to each girl and regular full service price to mamas an 200 each girl. I guess I already posted photos before

[QUOTE=Vannamond;1345793]Has anybody tried 3some in BBS? Does it make sense at all or waste of money?[/QUOTE]Apart very few exceptions (and I feel Philippnes is one of them even if I have never been there) a 3-some is not really recommended.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1346200]Apart very few exceptions (and I feel Philippnes is one of them even if I have never been there) a 3-some is not really recommended.[/QUOTE]I agree totally. Once I had three girls together, makes fun, different age but they only talk if not busy on you. Same with two girls one time, even during the action made some conversation, was very interesting. But sometimes also good times. Depends on the girls.

Have fun and take care

I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl. I know about the cheap plans available but want something a little more at western standards. Besides,"run for your life," does anyone have a recomendation.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1345991]Nemo,

Nice catch. What part of town did she come from? Was that a FS girl?

SH[/QUOTE]Take a look your pm.

Insurance industry here is as bad or worse than the US. You can see a Chinese doctor for 14 rmb. Drugs extra. She will have to guide you. Most doctors speak a little English. I've used the Shanghai medical establishment for 4 years. Not expensive.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1346405]I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl. I know about the cheap plans available but want something a little more at western standards. Besides,"run for your life," does anyone have a recomendation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1346530]Insurance industry here is as bad or worse than the US. You can see a Chinese doctor for 14 rmb. Drugs extra. She will have to guide you. Most doctors speak a little English. I've used the Shanghai medical establishment for 4 years. Not expensive.[/QUOTE]Are you saying the US has poor medical Industry? Or expensive?

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1346530]Insurance industry here is as bad or worse than the US. You can see a Chinese doctor for 14 rmb. Drugs extra.[/QUOTE]Just remember that Chinese doctors get commissions on the drugs they prescribe and it's a significant part of their compensation.

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1;1346861]Are you saying the US has poor medical Industry? Or expensive?[/QUOTE]Chinese drugs are inexpensive.

I used to have a condition that requires a prescription.

The drug in US costs $80 per bottle (1 month supply) , I can get 3 bottles for the same price in a Shanghai hospital.

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1346405]I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl.[/QUOTE]Just to confirm: is she a Chinese citizen, or you want Chinese medical insurance for a girl from another country while she is here?

"I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl."

I am more interested about insurance in the event of hospitalization for something serious. I think a western company will charge about $200 a month for this and still not pay out if they can get out of it in any way? What do you who live in Shanghai do for this? Any recomendations.

[QUOTE=Haibao; 1346202]I agree totally. Once I had three girls together, makes fun, different age but they only talk if not busy on you. Same with two girls one time, even during the action made some conversation, was very interesting. But sometimes also good times. Depends on the girls.

Have fun and take care[/QUOTE]The best and worst experiences I have had with 2 girls have been in China and paid for. My advice:

1- Having language skills improves the chances of a good experience, as it does for everything in China.

2. Get to know the girl through several visits first and introduce her to the idea (I had a great repeat girl and said for my be'day I want her friend to join. Fantastic)

3. Do this in a sauna rather than a BBS.

4. Be your own porn movie director. Don't be shy and tell them what and where you want (eg. The girls in 69 while you take one from behind, ask her to lick your balls, etc.)

BBS is almost always going to be a bad experience, so save up and do this at a sauna, preferably wet and wild!

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1346405]I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl. I know about the cheap plans available but want something a little more at western standards. Besides,"run for your life," does anyone have a recomendation.[/QUOTE]Just curious! What ever happened to a sparkly trinket?

But seriously, kudos to you, it's a sweet and practical idea.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted; 1347386]The best and worst experiences I have had with 2 girls have been in China and paid for. My advice:

1- Having language skills improves the chances of a good experience, as it does for everything in China.

2. Get to know the girl through several visits first and introduce her to the idea (I had a great repeat girl and said for my be'day I want her friend to join. Fantastic)

3. Do this in a sauna rather than a BBS.

4. Be your own porn movie director. Don't be shy and tell them what and where you want (eg. The girls in 69 while you take one from behind, ask her to lick your balls, etc.)

BBS is almost always going to be a bad experience, so save up and do this at a sauna, preferably wet and wild![/QUOTE]Totally right.

Normally every location I like I have one gem or favorite girl. Become friend and so on. After 3/4 time can start some funny game, and happen every time that if my gem is off and I go there, I follow hers subjection. Like this afternoon.

A great 69 and uncover BJ cim with a sichuan girl gave me from my gem that today is out of shanghai.

By the way for be clear with you all dudes, I am kinda particular, I love BJ. 69 and so on. I m the kinda people that prefer a good BJ than a full service, so my location don't have in normal menu` the FS. Sorry.

But untill now the few time I ve looked for a FS in my location I was never disappointed.

The Rivulet House is one of the massage SPAs in Pudong where you can get a HJ / HE. It is located on Hong Feng lu (opposite to The Flying Fox restobar) , at the corner of Hongfeng Lu and Biyun Lu. There are 7 Spas at the corner of Hongfeng and Biyun road, out of which 5 are legit (Dragon Fly, Green Masage, Shanana Spa, Congen Spa, Bamboo). Remaining 2 are.

A. Oil Massage Spa. HJ / HE (Not sure of the exact name, but it is to the left of The Rivulet House).

Be. The Rivulet House Spa. HJ / HE (My choice).

Both these places are similar (a couple of girls standing on the doorway, wearing skirts / stockings, high heels). They don't wave or call you, but are decent enough to just stand near the doorway. But Oil Massage Spa tries to trick you into becoming a member, so better to avoid that.

I prefer the rivulet house, since the girls are real friendly and once you get a repeat masseuse it is pure bliss, 'cause she knows from the previous visit, exactly how to please you like which are your senstive areas. There are about 15 different types of massages, but always choose the cheapest one 260 RMB for 60 minutes, since every session is eventually going to end in HJ / HE, so no point in opting for the costlier packages.

There are 2 girls at Rivulet whom I always choose, No. 6 (Shishi) and No. 7 (not sure of name). No. 6 is real friendly, beautiful and gives a great professional massage before HJ / HE.

But No. 7 is the best though. Good looking / cute / sexy. First time she let me take her shirt and bra off, on the second visit she took off her panties too, and allowed me to finger her to climax. Tip can be negotiated. She asks for 300 RMB, but you can negotiate to 150 RMB if you sweet talk. It all depends. There is an attached bath in the room, and she would wash you with soap completely after the massage.

Overall a good experience, but for FS you got to take them to the hotel or your home, which I guess would be 400 RMB more.

[QUOTE=NspectHerGadgt;1347222]Just to confirm: is she a Chinese citizen, or you want Chinese medical insurance for a girl from another country while she is here?[/QUOTE]She is a Chinese citizen who lives in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted;1347388]Just curious! What ever happened to a sparkly trinket?[/QUOTE]She likes them to.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1344482]Dudes.

Yesterday got a little party. So enjoy.

New other photos in next few hours.

Eheheheh.

Pm for details location and so on,

Cause I want to take care about this paradise, and so I ll share only with gentleman.

Sorry for the others.

Have a nice weekend.[/QUOTE]I would appreciate some details (if I qualify as a gentleman.)

Regards

There is a great variety in the US health system, as I'm sure there is in the Chinese system. In the US most (all?) insurance systems have limits as to what they cover. Nearly everyone will get treated if you go to an emergency room. The line for people with Insurance, is shorter than for those without insurance. A job related injury which is covered by Workers Comprehensive Insurance is very short. These claims are paid promptly. This treatment is some of the highest cost treatment money can buy. The employee can and will hire a lawyer to pursue his case. There are very few loose ends. Regular insurance pays some costs. People with no insurance will be treated but it is usually not the best treatment. The hospital has to treat them, by law. There is a great variety within the health care system in the US. Rural Georgia, Alabama and Texas is poor. Larger cities are much better.

My experience in China is only in Shanghai and I have someone who can research, online, which doctor is working where and when. It's all in Chinese.

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1;1346861]Are you saying the US has poor medical Industry? Or expensive?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Five Aces;1346405]I want to buy medical insurance for my favorite Shanghai bar girl. I know about the cheap plans available but want something a little more at western standards. Besides,"run for your life," does anyone have a recomendation.[/QUOTE]Try ping an insurance company.

Medical insurance in China comes in different forms e. G. Any hospital treatment, serious illness / accident, nominated illnesses etc.

Teltel

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1347615]Totally right.

Normally every location I like I have one gem or favorite girl. Become friend and so on. After 3/4 time can start some funny game, and happen every time that if my gem is off and I go there, I follow hers subjection. Like this afternoon.

A great 69 and uncover BJ cim with a sichuan girl gave me from my gem that today is out of shanghai.

By the way for be clear with you all dudes, I am kinda particular, I love BJ. 69 and so on. I m the kinda people that prefer a good BJ than a full service, so my location don't have in normal menu` the FS. Sorry.

But untill now the few time I ve looked for a FS in my location I was never disappointed.[/QUOTE]Ditto, I do the same thing. Befriend one girl, get her on your contact list, and listen to her suggestions and she will recommend her friends to join in the fun.

Occasionally you can get safety information from the girl, like whether the place is likely to get raided today or how long is the waiting line?

[QUOTE=Carage; 1348208]Ditto, I do the same thing. Befriend one girl, get her on your contact list, and listen to her suggestions and she will recommend her friends to join in the fun.

Occasionally you can get safety information from the girl, like whether the place is likely to get raided today or how long is the waiting line?[/QUOTE]Absolutely yes. And who is in period time too. Eehehehee.

The day off big dinner in restaurant and sometimes party.

I wanted to report on my visit to Pudong last week. Long time reader so hopefully my experience will help others.

I arrived on Monday night, after a 12 hour flight and stayed at the Hotel Eton. Right outside the back door is a strip of girlie bars and massage parlors. I headed out at about 8:00 pm, which is probably too early on a Monday as I was the only one in the bars. I stopped into Happy Valley Bar, bought a couple beers at $25 each and a few girl drinks at $50. I was surrounded by 4 bar girls giving me massage and eventually rubbing my cock trying to up sell me to get more drinks or a take out.

I stayed about an hour, ran up a $150 bar bill, enjoying the attention and diversion of the ladies, some being very attractive, and then walked down the street to one of the massage parlors. I don't remember the exact name, but its name begins with S and is the something massage club. A number of hot ladies wearing short black skirts and white blouses. $298 for a 90 minute massage.

The girl was very attractive, took a shower in the room. About a 30 minute massage that was OK but not great. She started negotiating the extras, she pushing for $400 for full nude and full body access with an HJ, and me saying no $100 for HJ, knowing my hands would be roaming anyway. So she gave me the HJ, which was good, not great, then back to another 40 minutes of massage and then her laying on the table with me and resting for 15 minutes.

All told $150 at the bar, and $400 for the massage. Not bad for a easy transition into Shanghai on my first night.

I had the opportunity to play again on Wed. At about 7:00 I went to the bar at the Eton, ordered a drink and went onto Wechat and started sending out greetings in English to the attractive girls that were near by. By the time I finished my first glass of wine, I had about 4 that I was chatting with, by the time I had finished my second, I had arranged to meet one of them at one of the bars out the back of the bar.

Fifteen minutes later, I was at the Happy Sister bar and the girl I was Wechatting with arrived. 35 year old, OK face, great body, real non pro. We had fun shooting pool against the bar girls and having drinks. We hung out for about 3 hours, had a great time, I dropped about 300 RMB on drinks, had a lot of fun but did not close the deal this time, but it is open for a repeat trip where I will close.

Non pro girl taxied home, so I went back into bar and negotiated a 300 RMB BJ from one of the bar girls we had been playing pool with.

So, not nearly as cost effective as a sauna if all you need is FS, but a fun social evening.

I planned on hitting Siyuan Sauna on Thursday afternoon, but unfortunately my business meeting ran over and I did not have time, so I will need to enjoy that experience on the next trip.

Uncle Junior

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1348361]Absolutely yes. And who is in period time too. Eehehehee.

The day off big dinner in restaurant and sometimes party.[/QUOTE]Nemo, Carage,

Could not agree more. I have a few massage girls that I am regular with. Service gets better and better. I have "wai-mai'd" them home many a time for FS. They love having a leisurely time and a glass of wine. Become very GFE, but they know it ain't going anywhere long term.

SH

Hello to all fellow mongers,

Am planned to visit Shanghai during last week of November. First trip to China. As such request seniors here to guide on the best area to put up for our kind of activity. Rest. Shall RTFF and try to manage on my own (just reached page 4 so far. Understand that Pudong should be the first choice. But still want to be sure). Any particular hotel suggestions also welcome.

Cheers

Hey guys,

Could anyone let me know or pm a number for any slim girl with fake or big boobies in sauna?

Thanks

Are your numbers really in US Dollars?

[QUOTE=Uncle Junior; 1348495]I wanted to report on my visit to Pudong last week. Long time reader so hopefully my experience will help others.

I arrived on Monday night, after a 12 hour flight and stayed at the Hotel Eton. Right outside the back door is a strip of girlie bars and massage parlors. I headed out at about 8:00 pm, which is probably too early on a Monday as I was the only one in the bars. I stopped into Happy Valley Bar, bought a couple beers at $25 each and a few girl drinks at $50. I was surrounded by 4 bar girls giving me massage and eventually rubbing my cock trying to up sell me to get more drinks or a take out.

I stayed about an hour, ran up a $150 bar bill, enjoying the attention and diversion of the ladies, some being very attractive, and then walked down the street to one of the massage parlors. I don't remember the exact name, but its name begins with S and is the something massage club. A number of hot ladies wearing short black skirts and white blouses. $298 for a 90 minute massage.

The girl was very attractive, took a shower in the room. About a 30 minute massage that was OK but not great. She started negotiating the extras, she pushing for $400 for full nude and full body access with an HJ, and me saying no $100 for HJ, knowing my hands would be roaming anyway. So she gave me the HJ, which was good, not great, then back to another 40 minutes of massage and then her laying on the table with me and resting for 15 minutes.

All told $150 at the bar, and $400 for the massage. Not bad for a easy transition into Shanghai on my first night.

I had the opportunity to play again on Wed. At about 7:00 I went to the bar at the Eton, ordered a drink and went onto Wechat and started sending out greetings in English to the attractive girls that were near by. By the time I finished my first glass of wine, I had about 4 that I was chatting with, by the time I had finished my second, I had arranged to meet one of them at one of the bars out the back of the bar.

Fifteen minutes later, I was at the Happy Sister bar and the girl I was Wechatting with arrived. 35 year old, OK face, great body, real non pro. We had fun shooting pool against the bar girls and having drinks. We hung out for about 3 hours, had a great time, I dropped about 300 RMB on drinks, had a lot of fun but did not close the deal this time, but it is open for a repeat trip where I will close.

Non pro girl taxied home, so I went back into bar and negotiated a 300 RMB BJ from one of the bar girls we had been playing pool with.

So, not nearly as cost effective as a sauna if all you need is FS, but a fun social evening.

I planned on hitting Siyuan Sauna on Thursday afternoon, but unfortunately my business meeting ran over and I did not have time, so I will need to enjoy that experience on the next trip.

Uncle Junior[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1349174]Are your numbers really in US Dollars?[/QUOTE]Must be a US guy, they only know bucks ($$$) hahaha.

Gregory

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1349187]Must be a US guy, they only know bucks ($$$) hahaha.

Gregory[/QUOTE]For 550 us dollars I can make a huge party in my location.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1349174]Are your numbers really in US Dollars?[/QUOTE]All prices are RMB.

Sorry I didn't specify. Is there a symbol for RMB that is equivalent to the $ or do I just need use the RMB suffix?

UJ

[QUOTE=Uncle Junior; 1349261]All prices are RMB.

Sorry I didn't specify. Is there a symbol for RMB that is equivalent to the $ or do I just need use the RMB suffix?

UJ[/QUOTE]In my circles we usually just use a Y. Ie. Y550. It's not actually correct but we don't have the correct font package to create the correct character without hitting control / alt / shift / spacebar / etc.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo;1349235]For 550 us dollars I can make a huge party in my location.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately that will only get you 1 hour with 1 escort in Miami.

I miss Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1349174]Are your numbers really in US Dollars?[/QUOTE]Thank you, I was thinking the same thing

Thanks to a recent great report on Pudong, seems like a lot of fun there. I will be arriving SH today staying in XinTianDi, apparently away from the real actions?

I had been to Manhattan and sure there were some pros there but not Chinese. Whereelse in Shanghai should one go for bar hopping to find pros? I don't have time for Wechat, as that really need a couple of repeat meetings, most of the time at least. I am not into sauna etc, as I much prefer the social and drinking process.

OS

[QUOTE=Old South; 1349436]Thanks to a recent great report on Pudong, seems like a lot of fun there. I will be arriving SH today staying in XinTianDi, apparently away from the real actions?

I had been to Manhattan and sure there were some pros there but not Chinese. Whereelse in Shanghai should one go for bar hopping to find pros? I don't have time for Wechat, as that really need a couple of repeat meetings, most of the time at least. I am not into sauna etc, as I much prefer the social and drinking process.

OS[/QUOTE]OS.

Near Manhattans, you can try Judy's. At Malones you can sometimes find a Philli. Not going to find Chinese in the bars, except for the girlie, drain your wallet, bars. There is a strip of those on Huashan Lu.

SH

Oh. Paulaner at Xintiandi is really expensive.

Getting a party fed could cost up to USD $550 if you eat a lot.

I think I once got a $400 USD bill for 4 adults just regular dinner and drinking.

had a 13 hour lay over in shanghai and stayed at the royal international hotel. after a long 15 hour flight, i didn't feel like going out to prowl. i called the hotel massage therapist and she promptly came up.

22 year old. 100lbs, light tan skin, face-7, body-9.

she proceeded to give me a massage (skill 5 out of 10) , and then asked if i wanted to massage junior. i asked for fs and she said that the total damage for 90 min massage and fs would be 1800rmb. i agreed (i know, i know, but i was tired and didn't want to negociate). and she proceeded to the extras, bbbj, mish and finish with cg. she was not very skillful, a bit uninterested, no kissing. i finished and she left. i know i paid too much, but i didn't care, i just wanted to bust a nut and go to bed.

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1349441]OS.

Near Manhattans, you can try Judy's. At Malones you can sometimes find a Philli. Not going to find Chinese in the bars, except for the girlie, drain your wallet, bars. There is a strip of those on Huashan Lu.

SH[/QUOTE]Yes, I have been to Malones as well, and yes, no Chinese. Girlie bars will drain your wallet and still no take out right? So the bottom line, no pick up join in SH for Chinese pros?

OS

[QUOTE=Old South; 1349604]Yes, I have been to Malones as well, and yes, no Chinese. Girlie bars will drain your wallet and still no take out right? So the bottom line, no pick up join in SH for Chinese pros?

OS[/QUOTE]There are many places for Chinese ladies. Just open your eyes and you will see it. Girlie bars, you can take out if you are lucky. Other place you can find Chinese ladies is M88, Zapatas, Bar Rouge.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1349315]Unfortunately that will only get you 1 hour with 1 escort in Miami.

I miss Shanghai.[/QUOTE]TF I don't live in somewhere like Miami. For that money I can have a weekend with 4 honeys on permanent t call in my condo in Manila.

VFM in Miami. Not much la!

[QUOTE=Haibao;1349647]There are many places for Chinese ladies. Just open your eyes and you will see it. Girlie bars, you can take out if you are lucky. Other place you can find Chinese ladies is M88, Zapatas, Bar Rouge.[/QUOTE]Wow, there are options? I may check them out. I also contacted Sophie I found on classified, and she said she had two girls that meet my <45kg requirement, so maybe I will just get lazy and stay in my hotel room, haha.

But then, it would be a shame not to check out these other places, but I suspect with older Chinese pros.


OS

Where did the jinhui lu bbs go? Where can we find bbs around gubei but not the one in hongsong lu?

Thanks for sharing

When is this 18th congress election thing over? I am headding over soon, hoping it settles down.

Sam Can

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1350087]When is this 18th congress election thing over? I am headding over soon, hoping it settles down.

Sam Can[/QUOTE]Do you not have CNN where you live? Turn onthe TV and get your own Intel. They have a saying here for people like you "Hen Lan".

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1350087]When is this 18th congress election thing over? I am headding over soon, hoping it settles down.

Sam Can[/QUOTE]What 18th congress, was it ever having anything to do with SH? In any case, I went over to Manhattan 1:30 am and the place was completely packed, full of girls. I spotted maybe a couple of Chinese but they may have come with guys. Anyway, saw a viet cutie, slim figure with a big smile. Didn't mind that I looked like a local guy either, went back to my 5* hotel in XTD after 2am and no trouble getting back to my room at all, so guys, no issues what so ever, SH is great.

OS

In my first night I went to the massage place located in Shaanxi and Changping. No problem finding the place as the directions in the board are precise. Took my shoes of and was guided to a room, two minutes later the girl shows up and she was maybe a 7/10. I don't speak Chinese so it was very difficult to communicate, she put some effort and I found that it was Y258 for massage, rimming and CBJ. We proceeded with the activities and it was not bad for the price. I also got a breast rubbing all over which was quite enjoyable. I believe that I will repeat. Next stop is Manhattan.

Thanks to the senior member for all the good info.

Cheers, BP

Well, I finally met Angela, who people talked about from this post:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1303460&highlight=angela#post1303460[/url]

How can I describe it? It was an interesting experience.

We exchanged a lot of emails prior to meeting up. All te time, she said she needed my cel phone to locate me wherever we would meet publicly, prior to going to the room. I told her I could not give my phone, but we would surely find each other. We agreed to meet at the hotel, at the lobby cafe. But when I said again that I didn't have a cel, she went balistic on the emails, saying no deal, good luck to me, etc.

At that point, I said to myself to let it go. But such anger could be possibly hiding a gem. So I used a lot of nice talk and politeness to convince her to meet, by describing my clothes and such. However, she then asked my hotel nbr and would call me to check. She called, we chatted, and she agreed to come. She had great English by the way, while on the emails, it was really basic.

She crossed 30km of the city to where I was, and agreed to meet in my room. When she arrived, immediately I recalled what others said "she is not everyones cup of tea". Well, not even mine, but I was really intersted to see what was her all about.

She came in a mini skirt, and a polo shirt. Looking like a normal lady, branded bag. She sat, and started complaining. Really, about everything:

The weather.

The taxi.

The distance.

The traffic.

The hotel.

The cel phone.

The country.

Her vacations.

Chinese people.

Western people.

Asian people.

Earth people.

And so on.

When I told her where I was from, a country known by romantic men and good food in Europe, she said we are all liars, and cannot be trusted. She had a bf from there, and he cheated on her. So, she concluded we are all the same.

She complained a lot about her family. Nobody acknowledges her efforts, she puts a lot of money to her old parents, and relatives, etc, but nobody thanks her. Actually, she sounded honest, because 1) she is married to a foreigner and 2) she only asks 300-400rmb for her time. But that was getting me anxious, it was one hour of blahblahblah, and I was about to call it quits. But I cooled down and waited patiently.

She even asked that I was too calm. I told her that people from my country are gentlemen. She smiled, and with that smile I knew she was getting into it.

Her husband is old. Thats why she looks for men to f. She said he knows about it. And he is ok, as long as she keeps taking care of him. Weird in my opinion.

Afte one painful hour, she decided to lay down, and I offered a massage. She enjoyed, and I laid down beside her, basically cuddling, to which she responded, turned around, and we started making out. And she was hungry!

From there, it got wild. In seconds we were naked, and I was on DATY. She was going nuts, until she came and asked me to go inside her. She was whispering, and I said "I can't hear you, tell me whzt you want", and she yelled "f. Me!". I obliged.

All positions you guys can imagine. Name it. She could barely handle it. Mind you, I can control myself very well, and I can last very long. She was not expecting it, so we went on and on, and she was visibly tired, but enjoying. We were sweating like pigs, and she didn't want me out, but it was about time, so I decided to let it go, and shot a huge load on her breasts. She was impressed by the amount, and started caressing it all throug her tits.

I was exhausted, so went for a shower. When I came back, she was saying that she had some pain, that I strucked a little hard. Look, I am not big, I am average, but I know how to hit the rigt spots."Did I hurt you? I am so sorry", to which she said "Pain for pleasure is good.". Damn nympho!

We talked a bit more, some more complaints, and she left. She said was happy, I was a gentleman. She even sent me an email the next day wishing safe travel.

Again, not everyones cup of tea. But worth the experience. She enjoys it.

To find her, go to craigslist and search for those key words on the post that I linked. If you just send her an email directly, she will go mad. It MUST be via CL.

Have fun.

Cheers,

Sauro

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1350253]Well, I finally met Angela, who people talked about from this post:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1303460&highlight=angela#post1303460[/url]

How can I describe it? It was an interesting experience.

We exchanged a lot of emails prior to meeting up. All te time, she said she needed my cel phone to locate me wherever we would meet publicly, prior to going to the room. I told her I could not give my phone...[/QUOTE]This is the most entertaining post I've read in a long time. What a great experience you had. Well done, sounds like it was worth the drama just for the awesome story.

Known her quite a while-yep everything true in this report-actually we have become friends-after a while she is quit normal.

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1350253]Well, I finally met Angela, who people talked about from this post:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1303460&highlight=angela#post1303460[/url]

How can I describe it? It was an interesting experience.

We exchanged a lot of emails prior to meeting up. All te time, she said she needed my cel phone to locate me wherever we would meet publicly, prior to going to the room. I told her I could not give my phone...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1350253]Well, I finally met Angela, who people talked about from this post:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1303460&highlight=angela#post1303460[/url]

How can I describe it? It was an interesting experience. Have fun. Cheers, Sauro[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comprehensive repr, straight, honest and giving the full picture.

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1;1350119]Do you not have CNN where you live? Turn onthe TV and get your own Intel. They have a saying here for people like you "Hen Lan".[/QUOTE]Actually I have over 90 posts. Many of which are helping fellow mongers find places to go. I have answered many PMs giving help whenever I can. So yes I am contributing. I also am able to take a private message. You can't. So with your 11 posts or not paying $19 what have you given back? . By the way iread all 11 of your posts. I see no value in any of the posts that you have made. They are all similar to this one. Pointing out what others have done but taken no action yourself.

You sir are a troll. In case you don't know, (because your posts don't really show your level of intelligence) That is someone whose reason for being is to incite others.

I will not respond to any further comments from you

Additionally, I do watch the news every night. (not CNN). No one here in the US news is really interested in this elecction (non-election) thing.

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1350253]Well, I finally met Angela, who people talked about from this post:

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1303460&highlight=angela#post1303460[/url]

How can I describe it? It was an interesting experience.

Cheers,

Sauro[/QUOTE]Great report bro, I wouldn't have the patience for it, but happy it (eventually) worked out for you. First hooker I've heard of that required an hour of complaining (foreplay?) prior to the deed. LOL!

Got wechat (kind of an upgraded QQ / MSN) and immediately was captivated by the "near me" feature. Long list of office ladies with pics and distance to me and some more scantily clothed. Did a couple of "Hello" messages to some of these scantily clad ladies wondering if they were working girls or just office girls. Which could become embarrasing if I ran into them in the elevators but not to worry. I was hit by a number of direct offers. Settled on a modestly looking cutie. Worked myself into a horny frenzy looking for the place, exchanging messages, requesting more pictures, and in the end calling for directions. Long story short. Did 2 of these Wechat / QQ girls back to back. The first one a supposed date with a real cutie. Not some copied model but cute. And whoever opened the door and let me had similar clothing but otherwise no resemblance. Second one was maybe the same girl, face was obstructed, but no great shakes.

Anyway 300 damage for full package. Spend some time after the deed smoking and talking. Girl was super friendly and talkative. Too bad about the looks. Asked why person was different than advertised. Answer was that none of the girls was the same, and asking me who would be stupid enough to put a picture of themselves on the net for all Shanghai to see. Fair enough. There was a whole "operation" going on, could hear what sounded like a call room / boiler room when I called asking for directions, and there was someone calling her when I was there, asking if I left or not, she confirmed that was the organizer.

So basically my illusions of some independent hotties in a nice apartment making some cash on the side was solidly broken, seemed instead to be an organized outlet for those girls whom didn't stand a chance in the normal BBS / sauna lineup / selection process. And once in the apartment all horny I guess a lot of guys would do like me and cave in. After all I travelled far enough (that BTW is another issue, non of those who showed as "near me" like within 1000 meter was anywhere in that range once they sent me their location)

Anyway. No great shakes from QQ / wechat. Maybe OK place to find non-pros though. Lots of other great places in shanghai Which I will get back to later. KTV with takeout is by far the best shot for local hotties although really expensive and somewhat difficult to organize, too much work related.

There has earlier been postings related to Shaanxi Lu / Changping Lu and recommendations for number 8. I never found a place where number 8 worked. Or at least not a place where the number 8 with super-titties was present. What I did find, in that crossing, was a nice place more or less specialized in BBBJ. On Changping Lu, on north-western side of the crossing, there is a place which looks like a high end massage joint. Entry has Buddha face / walk up some stairs, buddha figures and Thai inspired decorations, piped smooth new age music and nicely decorated rooms with showers. They had a menu but informed me that now only the most pricy / comprehensive option (think it was 368) was available. Did this 4 times over a couple of weeks, same drill. She prepare room, shower alone, onto table, decent but short massage (a little different from each girl) , then over, off with the top, and a nice BBJ to completion including various degrees of CIM. Then another shower. No tip, pay at the desk, membership card offered, I don't want to walk around with any cards so I paid each time the approx 368 think it is 328 with card. Good service, reasonably attractive girls. Wonder about their health over time but alas too great of a place to really worry to much about it. Recommended.

Knowing so many the pleasure spots in Shanghai that I feel quite ashamed, I would like to provide my feedback both from earlier years and more recently / well looked after habit on what I still think is the place to find the hottest girls for massage, in various stages of undress including completely nude, and oily HE. These are not places you go to get a good massage, the focus is "elsewhere". On Wuzhong Lu, just after passing Guiling Lu, on the right hand side going west are several red light shops, lots of really great looking girls. A little further up, (I. E towards west, southwest) walking and cross the street are a couple more (at least one which looks a little more dingy and like they would provide FS which they do, nothing great there). Anyway in this area, take your time, find a nice girl, and invest in a "relationship". The menu goes something like 200-300 for basic including HE, about 400-500 is full nude, mutual masturbation, tit-job with a very satisfying HE by hand or tit. Also some showering scheme there, I always take a shower before and after but with the girl didn't add any value to me. There is also a 500-580 rmb fake vagina thing which was a waste compared to the expert HJ. Anyway the high amount of cute young girls, combined with no risk of STD. I stick with one for a couple of sessions and change when needed. It's a winner.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1350491]Great report bro, I wouldn't have the patience for it, but happy it (eventually) worked out for you. First hooker I've heard of that required an hour of complaining (foreplay?) prior to the deed. LOL![/QUOTE]Adds a new angle to the joke. How do you make a hormone. In her case not a lot it would seem!

[QUOTE=ExpatGuy1;1350119]Do you not have CNN where you live? Turn onthe TV and get your own Intel. They have a saying here for people like you "Hen Lan".[/QUOTE]I highly doubt CNN will be reporting whether services are shut-down in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Carage;1350552]I highly doubt CNN will be reporting whether services are shut-down in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]The congress is in Beijing, this is Shanghai, there are no shutdown here, except that the places are extra careful and most of them try to operate undercover.

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1350436]Actually I have over 90 posts. Many of which are helping fellow mongers find places to go. I have answered many PMs giving help whenever I can. So yes I am contributing. I also am able to take a private message. You can't. So with your 11 posts or not paying $19 what have you given back? . By the way iread all 11 of your posts. I see no value in any of the posts that you have made. They are all similar to this one. Pointing out what others have done but taken no action yourself.

You sir are a troll. In case you don't know, (because your posts don't really show your level of intelligence) That is someone whose reason for being is to incite others.

I will not respond to any further comments from you

Additionally, I do watch the news every night. (not CNN). No one here in the US news is really interested in this elecction (non-election) thing.[/QUOTE]Calm down, Let's just leave the fighting off the board. Better still go get a pros and cum out. .

As we usually says. Don't feed the troll.

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=Ace Gallant; 1350572]Calm down, Let's just leave the fighting off the board. Better still go get a pros and cum out. .

As we usually says. Don't feed the troll.

Enjoy!

AG[/QUOTE]Thanks ACE! I apologize for my excitement, I will endeavor to do better.

I had heard that SH was careful. A fellow board member you and I both know well told me the police came by his room to check passports.

Looking forward to my next trip and did not want it disrupted.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1350491]Great report bro, I wouldn't have the patience for it, but happy it (eventually) worked out for you. First hooker I've heard of that required an hour of complaining (foreplay?) prior to the deed. LOL![/QUOTE]She is not really a hooker, the money it is just part of her game, same like insisting on contacting her via CL and "the interview". I think she actually is fun, but...she really is not everybody's cup of tea. I met her, talked to her, and it was the same as Sauro described, mainly complaining about God and the world.

I couldn't stand the chain-smoking, though. Does she still smoke like a chimney?

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1350601]She is not really a hooker, the money it is just part of her game, same like insisting on contacting her via CL and "the interview". I think she actually is fun, but. She really is not everybody's cup of tea. I met her, talked to her, and it was the same as Sauro described, mainly complaining about God and the world.

I couldn't stand the chain-smoking, though. Does she still smoke like a chimney?

Levitian[/QUOTE]Here is her new ad:

"discreet fun. W4m. 39 (puxi)

Date: 2012-11-12, 1:02PM CST.

vcgpm-3403495800@pers.craigslist.org

Looking someone I like be with enjoy the fun time.

Not for serious relationship. But be discreet and healthy.

Your age must over 45.

Introduce yourself well when you reply.

Thanks"

I have looking for her and want to try her out next time I come to Shanghai (Middle of December).

If anyone did before be fair and give a report.

Gregory

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1350601]She is not really a hooker, the money it is just part of her game, same like insisting on contacting her via CL and "the interview". I think she actually is fun, but. She really is not everybody's cup of tea. I met her, talked to her, and it was the same as Sauro described, mainly complaining about God and the world.

I couldn't stand the chain-smoking, though. Does she still smoke like a chimney?

Levitian[/QUOTE]Perhaps you have a different definition, but for most people, a woman who provides sexual services for money (which she REQUIRES, by the way) is a prostitute (hooker). To deny that fact you are only fooling yourself.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1350601]She is not really a hooker, the money it is just part of her game, same like insisting on contacting her via CL and "the interview". I think she actually is fun, but. She really is not everybody's cup of tea. I met her, talked to her, and it was the same as Sauro described, mainly complaining about God and the world.

I couldn't stand the chain-smoking, though. Does she still smoke like a chimney?

Levitian[/QUOTE]Agree with you, she is not a pro, just plays the game.

I was also worried about smoking, I don't like it. But as I said, she agreed to come straight to my room. Being a non smoking room, she could not do it. And while there, I offered chocolate and mints. I was prepared! .

Glad you guys enjoyed the post. It was quite a drama, but it was really fine.

Sauro

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1350603]Here is her new ad:

"discreet fun. W4m. 39 (puxi)

Date: 2012-11-12, 1:02PM CST.

vcgpm-3403495800@pers.craigslist.org

Looking someone I like be with enjoy the fun time.

Not for serious relationship. But be discreet and healthy.

Your age must over 45.

Introduce yourself well when you reply.

Thanks"

I have looking for her and want to try her out next time I come to Shanghai (Middle of December).

If anyone did before be fair and give a report.

Gregory[/QUOTE]Hey Gregory, check out my post a few days ago, I met her.

Sauro

[QUOTE=Mike921;1350612]Perhaps you have a different definition, but for most people, a woman who provides sexual services for money (which she REQUIRES, by the way) is a prostitute (hooker). To deny that fact you are only fooling yourself.[/QUOTE]We all have our fantasies, and so does she. You might see it as you wish.

Levitian

There are a variety of possibilities for screwing around in Shanghai. The usual places mentioned in this blog are available.

A hand job is available in many small shops. A couple of girls will be visible from the street. A massage starts at 40 rmb. In these shops, if there are curtains in the back she will start with the curtain open. You lay on your back and she starts the massage. If you reach down and squeeze her leg she will know. And she will run her hand on the crack in your ass and feel the base of your dick. Grab her leg again. She'll pull the curtain unless someone else in on the next cot. Just wait. She will massage your back and butt. Once the other cot is empty she'll get you to turn over and she'll squeeze your nipples and reach for your crotch to see if he is getting stiff. She'll reach under your shirt and play with your nipples. You can reach for her nipples or try to unsnap her bra. And she'll either push her bra up or unsnap it. Your buckle gets undone and she'll slip you pants down giving her access to your dick. And she'll have some oil handy. Sometimes you can suck her tits, other times just play with her tits. The tits come in a variety of sizes. I claim that anything more than a mouth full is a waste. The skill they have with the hand job varies. They will take instruction. Hey I speak no Chinese. With hand signals. 30 to 40 minutes later. Up to you. You are done, she gets some tissue and you pull your pants up. She'll massage a little more and get you up to leave. 100 rmb will do the trick. This has been my experience in Puxi.

If you get away from downtown you can see similar small shops with several girls wearing what I call fuck me heels and outfits which display what's available. Upstairs you will discover small rooms and if they have a corner shower you can get a quick shower before and after. She may take off her clothes and run her body over your body. Which is nice. And give you a blowjob and a snack may be available. And they can be sweet. She may push that little sister into your face and love it. Bucking until she orgasms. What happens depends on the chemistry you and her develop. 300 will cover the cost and if fucking occurs you can slip another 100 in her bra. What is available may not be evident on the first trip. At saunas and soapy's fucking is available the first time.

Look, this is a fun game in Shanghai. Enjoy it and all of the permutations that you can work up with the girl. And no, Mandarin is not required. Smile a lot, play the game and get fucked really really really well. And often.

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1350759]Hey Gregory, check out my post a few days ago, I met her.

Sauro[/QUOTE]Your report has been the one which triggered me to search for her:

It took a while to find her in CL:

I had forgot to mention the section: Here you go.

. Personals. Casual encounters. W4m:

Bingo.

Only in case someone got new experiences I wanted that new report.

Otherwise I fully follow your advice,

Reports like yours are great: specific and for non Mandarin guys what we need.

Thanks again.

Gregory

[QUOTE=GregoryB;1350903]Reports like yours are great: specific and for non Mandarin guys what we need.[/QUOTE]I think what was also good is that some guys confirmed what I wrote. This "validation" of the report is good, because gives credibility to the person posting, so others won't get fooled. There are people here that may write bs, and it could be difficult to check if it is true or not.

I remember one of my first posts here, people thought I was related to the massage agency just because I reported a fantastic experience without paying addtl for it. I was just lucky, but being a newbie by that time, there was no way to check my credibility. I believe if we keep endorsing posts, this helps a lot. Also the PMs help, for sure.

Obs. : forgot to say that she prefers married men. She believes that they are cleaner of diseases. Well, I am single and clean, and it was ok. So consider using that if you want. .

Cheers,

Sauro

I had posted about the difficulties in finding Chinese WGs in places like Manhattan, where I did pick up a good looking vietnamese, but I would much prefer a girl with whom I can have a lot more conversing to make her feel more comfortable with me. Someone suggested other bars in SH, but due to my limited time there, I was not able to venture out more.

I did have good luck the outcalls so to help others who don't have time, like having just one night in SH, I would say using a provider is a good alternative. On the other hand, if you are ok with foreign girls, then Manhattan is really the best bar to pick them up in all of China, even better then Neptune 2 in Wan Chai.

I don't know how many providers are in SH, but I just looked up classified and found Sophie. First girl she sent me was in the afternoon, and older girl about 24, excellent GFE, she had her cum during 69 and wanted more. I wanted to see her again later that night but she had a birthday party to go to, so I asked Sophie for another girl, this time a 19 yr old. When she arrived in my hotel lobby, for my typical warm up routine of a glass of wine, she was not as friendly as the older girl. When we got into my room, she immediately asked for money up front. I told her I had someone else in the afternoon and no money was mentioned in the entire process, but she insisted on money first, this kind of attitude completely ruined my mood. I called Sophie and asked if I can reject her, and she said absolutely, so I paid her taxi money and ask her to get out, despite of the fact that she was 19 and very hot. I didn't want to just sit and wait for Sophie to send another girl to me, so I went to Manhattan instead.

So if you are looking for a girl to be sent to your room, ask for someone who is around 22-24. I sort of already knew this, but caved in for the sound of a 19 yr old and learnt my lesson, again.

Oh, the 24 yr old did WeChat her party photos to me that night, how sweet.

OS

Hey guy, was in SH around end of last month. Stayed at jinjiang hotel sorry for the late report, but I think I really needed to give a report for the help the other members gave.

Reached SH late in the evening. The flight got delayed by an hour so by the time reach the hotel it was already 10. 30. While entering the building a girl stand by asked if needed massage. I just didn't bother and walked in case was a little tired and wanted to check in first and then decide what to do. The reception was really slow with the process and I decided to have a smoke, so went outside. The same girl approached again. This time I decided WTF lets get the prices at least. She gave me a card. And she said can call me if you need services. I looked at her she was about 6. Slim and firm body and small titties. But cute you could say. Spoke ok English. So go back in and the check in completed. Went to the room. Nice rooms BTW. I've stayed here before. The rooms are good.

After getting fresh had a drink and thought of calling her. Called. Asked her how much for a massage. She started with Thai massage and Chinese massage. I interrupted her said I need sex massage. She said ok for that need 2000. I said are you crazy. I've never paid more than 500. Negiotiating and bought her down to 600. She agreed. And said she will send the girl to my room in 20 minutes. I said ok. Give her the room #. After about 5 min. The door was knocked and I opened. It was her.

She said a beautiful girl is on the way. Will be here in 15 mins, I said ok. She came in. I asked her what she did. She said I do other massages don't do FS. But have f friends who do. I said fine. She started asking for money. Said no way money only after the dead is done. Ad if I don't like the girl you and your girl both would be out. She said ok. Se just went on talking, wouldn't stop. I just stared at her. She was nice. I thought of some fun before the other girl arrived. Asked her to come and sit besides me. Which she did, tried to touch her while she was talking she just got up. Said no. No. I don't do it. I said WTF, I'm not doing anything just checking you out. She again came and sit. With me. Touched her again. T which she didn't mind. And went further. Asked her to get rid of the shirt. She resisted first but later gave in. Opened her shirt. Reached for her bra. Again a little resistance but gave in. She had nice small it firm titles. Almost mouthful. Started sucking on then and she also seemed to enjoy it l no resistance and good fun.

Soon my had went down south to which she jut got a little annoyed. Claimed her down and continue sucking. Again tried it and this time she didn't mind. My hand in her jeans and almost fingering her. I could feel she got wet by now. But then her phone rang. The girl she asked had arrived. She got up quickly to get dressed. I asked her what happened. She said the other girl here. Will not look nice that we already doing something. To which I was like really surprised. Se got dressed fast and asked me for a tip. I thought it was good 20 mins of fun. So gave her 100. She was happy.

Now her friend reached. About 7, and I agreed to keep her. And the before girl left. It's girl seemed prettier than her friend and also big boobs. I was already horney so decided to get with the act. She undressed and we both went for a shower. Bck to the room. To cut the story short. It was just mechanical. Nothing great. Typical CB, doggy and then finished in mish. She wouldn't even do a BJ. That was bad. (forgot to ask this when making the deal) so no surprise. She left soon.

Felt nothing great. In fact the massage girl was better with the little teasing and more playful. Had her # so thought would call her tomorrow to see.

Next went on with work all day and by the time reached hotel it was already 8. After reached room. Gt a call frm the massage girl. Maybe she saw me entering. She asked if wanted massage. I said ok. U come. Now my mind was roaming, if could continue from where we left last night. She came a nd believe me she looked hotter than last night. So started with the regular chit chat and moved closer to her. I assume she knew what was going to come. Started touching her and she didn't object. And we were into it very fast. I guess last night tip of 100 rmb worked. In the it was a much much better experience than the before night. Almost GFE. We lied in the bed talking and she told me she usually don't do FS. I didn't have reason to believe her, but the point remained that, no money was discussed till that time. Had another shot. At around 1 am she said she has to go. Her roommate was waiting for her. Asked her to stay she said couldn't. Anyways asked her how much. She said whatever you want to give is ok. Gave her 800 plus some bills from my country which she asked for.

Nice experience. Next mornig had to leave SH for smaller cities in the trip. Would meet her definetly again on my next visit to SH which should be in about a month.

Didn't get a chance to go to judys or zapatas or manhattan. Would take out some time in next trip for the club scene as well.

Till then play safe and happy mongering.

To the senior members specially Gregory. Thanks a lot buddy. For the help.

[QUOTE=DeepDeeper; 1351071]Hey guy, was in SH around end of last month. Stayed at jinjiang hotel sorry for the late report, but I think I really needed to give a report for the help the other members gave.

Reached SH late in the evening. The flight got delayed by an hour so by the time reach the hotel it was already 10. 30. While entering the building a girl stand by asked if needed massage. I just didn't bother and walked in case was a little tired and wanted to check in first and then decide what to do. The reception was really slow with the process and I decided to have a smoke, so went outside. The same girl approached again. This time I decided WTF lets get the prices at least. She gave me a card. And she said can call me if you need services. I looked at her she was about 6. Slim and firm body and small titties. But cute you could say. Spoke ok English. So go back in and the check in completed. Went to the room. Nice rooms BTW. I've stayed here before. The rooms are good.

After getting fresh had a drink and thought of calling her. Called. Asked her how much for a massage. She started with Thai massage and Chinese massage. I interrupted her said I need sex massage. She said ok for that need 2000. I said are you crazy. I've never paid more than 500. Negiotiating and bought her down to 600. She agreed. And said she will send the girl to my room in 20 minutes. I said ok. Give her the room. After about 5 min. The door was knocked and I opened. It was her.

She said a beautiful girl is on the way. Will be here in 15 mins, I said ok. She came in. I asked her what she did. She said I do other massages don't do FS. But have f friends who do. I said fine. She started asking for money. Said no way money only after the dead is done. Ad if I don't like the girl you and your girl both would be out. She said ok. Se just went on talking, wouldn't stop. I just stared at her. She was nice. I thought of some fun before the other girl arrived. Asked her to come and sit besides me. Which she did, tried to touch her while she was talking she just got up. Said no. No. I don't do it. I said WTF, I'm not doing anything just checking you out. She again came and sit. With me. Touched her again. T which she didn't mind. And went further. Asked her to get rid of the shirt. She resisted first but later gave in. Opened her shirt. Reached for her bra. Again a little resistance but gave in. She had nice small it firm titles. Almost mouthful. Started sucking on then and she also seemed to enjoy it l no resistance and good fun.

Soon my had went down south to which she jut got a little annoyed. Claimed her down and continue sucking. Again tried it and this time she didn't mind. My hand in her jeans and almost fingering her. I could feel she got wet by now. But then her phone rang. The girl she asked had arrived. She got up quickly to get dressed. I asked her what happened. She said the other girl here. Will not look nice that we already doing something. To which I was like really surprised. Se got dressed fast and asked me for a tip. I thought it was good 20 mins of fun. So gave her 100. She was happy.

Now her friend reached. About 7, and I agreed to keep her. And the before girl left. It's girl seemed prettier than her friend and also big boobs. I was already horney so decided to get with the act. She undressed and we both went for a shower. Bck to the room. To cut the story short. It was just mechanical. Nothing great. Typical CB, doggy and then finished in mish. She wouldn't even do a BJ. That was bad. (forgot to ask this when making the deal) so no surprise. She left soon.

Felt nothing great. In fact the massage girl was better with the little teasing and more playful. Had her # so thought would call her tomorrow to see.

Next went on with work all day and by the time reached hotel it was already 8. After reached room. Gt a call frm the massage girl. Maybe she saw me entering. She asked if wanted massage. I said ok. U come. Now my mind was roaming, if could continue from where we left last night. She came a nd believe me she looked hotter than last night. So started with the regular chit chat and moved closer to her. I assume she knew what was going to come. Started touching her and she didn't object. And we were into it very fast. I guess last night tip of 100 rmb worked. In the it was a much much better experience than the before night. Almost GFE. We lied in the bed talking and she told me she usually don't do FS. I didn't have reason to believe her, but the point remained that, no money was discussed till that time. Had another shot. At around 1 am she said she has to go. Her roommate was waiting for her. Asked her to stay she said couldn't. Anyways asked her how much. She said whatever you want to give is ok. Gave her 800 plus some bills from my country which she asked for.

Nice experience. Next mornig had to leave SH for smaller cities in the trip. Would meet her definetly again on my next visit to SH which should be in about a month.

Didn't get a chance to go to judys or zapatas or manhattan. Would take out some time in next trip for the club scene as well.

Till then play safe and happy mongering.

To the senior members specially Gregory. Thanks a lot buddy. For the help.[/QUOTE]__________________________________________________________________________-

Its my pleasure, I got a lot from many ISG guys (some like to write but tell nothing, but that like with poiliticians.)

And when I can return a little its ok.

What I wish is short and specific and contact details ONLY via PM.

Gregory

hi guys,

i'll be travelling to sh and hz this saturday for 2 weeks, and have been doing tons of research on this site and on various qq girl sites and qq groups.

manhattan's will be first on my list for some vietnamese, and then i'll try contacting the large list of local qq girls i've been communicating with and calling. it will be interesting to see if their pics are the same as on qq zone, though the meimeis swear blind they are, even offering a return taxi fare if they're not! i've also asked how old the photos are and whether they've been psd.

i am confident that at least some of them are genuine, as i've been using shanghai and hangzhou based chinese language qq groups and websites with hundreds of members and gege reports for each one. being able to read and type in chinese helps. typical price is 200-300 a pop, and between 600 and 800 to baoye (overnight). some can do out calls, but most prefer their own apartments. also, being a laowai is usually no problem, though some have refused or upped the fee (to which i've speedily deleted from my list).

can't wait to report back.

happy mongering!

Band of brothers.

Hi Gregory. Hi dudes.

Yesterday I invite 5 gems to dinner together.

Really funny time. LOL.

Some other photos for the pleasure of you all.

But come on dudes.

Some photo of yours?

Great stuff Nemo. That girl looks lovely and wet! Great contribution!

But where are the other 4? Haha.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1351214]Band of brothers.

Hi Gregory. Hi dudes.

Yesterday I invite 5 gems to dinner together.

Really funny time. LOL.

Some other photos for the pleasure of you all.

But come on dudes.

Some photo of yours?[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Is there any bbs or happy end massage salon near Xintiandi?

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1351214]Band of brothers.

Hi Gregory. Hi dudes.

Yesterday I invite 5 gems to dinner together.

Really funny time. LOL.

Some other photos for the pleasure of you all.

But come on dudes.

Some photo of yours?[/QUOTE]Dude. You make me sad!

Did you not notice from photos? 2 different girl. If one have natural pink nipples is a red lips too. The other photos is a black lips.

[QUOTE=Fatso;1350537]There has earlier been postings related to Shaanxi Lu / Changping Lu and recommendations for number 8. I never found a place where number 8 worked. Or at least not a place where the number 8 with super-titties was present. What I did find, in that crossing, was a nice place more or less specialized in BBBJ. On Changping Lu, on north-western side of the crossing, there is a place which looks like a high end massage joint. Entry has Buddha face / walk up some stairs, buddha figures and Thai inspired decorations, piped smooth new age music and nicely decorated rooms with showers. They had a menu but informed me that now only the most pricy / comprehensive option (think it was 368) was available. Did this 4 times over a couple of weeks, same drill. She prepare room, shower alone, onto table, decent but short massage (a little different from each girl) , then over, off with the top, and a nice BBJ to completion including various degrees of CIM. Then another shower. No tip, pay at the desk, membership card offered, I don't want to walk around with any cards so I paid each time the approx 368 think it is 328 with card. Good service, reasonably attractive girls. Wonder about their health over time but alas too great of a place to really worry to much about it. Recommended.[/QUOTE]Good to hear the news. You didn't say anything about the girl, did you have number 8? If it's the right girl she has a great body and very pretty face. Also one of the best tits. Was it her?

I've been to this place 2 times, prices were 208 HJ and 288 (I think) BJ, but people said is was covered so I never bothered. I had #8 for the HJ price + tip to get her completely naked.

So you are saying that now only option is 368 and without tips you get a BBBJ + tits?

I arrived at the place after midnight, the ratio was about three women per one man. As I entered there was a gal by the door, right before the place where they hang their coats. She approached me but I had just arrived so I wanted to have a beer and check the environment first. After a while I came back to the area and she asked me if I was ready, I replied no yet and asked how much. She replied with the usual rate of Y1000 and pulled her blouse down to show me a size B right breast. I did not answer and went back around one more time checking the talent, the usual Viets and one or two Phils. Once again we run into each other and she made a more concerted effort to get my attention, I ask: where are you from? She replied Anhui province, she claimed to be an student in Shanghai. This got my attention as I heard many times about the difficulty of finding Chinese girls is Manhattan, so I continue the conversation. Bottom line, I offered Y500 and she replied OK plus some taxi fare, off we went. The interesting part is that she was not wearing your classic working girl outfit, but rather street clothes and she had two bags with her, one with a notebook computer. In the taxi she said "we have to get condoms" she spoke to the driver in Chinese and after a while he stopped at a convenience store. I got out and as I was looking for the condoms she came in the store, asked the lady something and grabbed a box of twelve. I though, shit, you are going to have fun tonight.

We went up to the room and took showers, she took out an electric toothbrush, asked me for toothpaste and spent a long time brushing her teeth. Don't mean to be too detailed, but I found the situation rather unusual, that's why I'm writing about it. Anyway, I had a great experience, she had a tube of lubricant and she mentioned that she uses it on herself some times, to which I replied: "show me" She proceeded to masturbate for a while and that really got me going, she saw I was ready. She started with a BBBJ and some balls nibbling, my first time. Then she continued with cowgirl and went thru all possible positions, we finished doggie. Then she turned around and started to blow me, which I found very exciting. I got the feeling that she was enjoying it more than me.

After the action we talk for a bit then she say "goodnight" and went to sleep. Next morning we repeated and she departed. We did not get to use all the condoms, actually she took the rest with her when she left. Amazing, they will walk away with anything that it is not in the safe or bolted down.

Bottom line, Manhattan is the place and I cannot wait to get back to China. I'm torn between that and Havana Cafe in Makati, I think that the prices in the Philippines are better, but the talent is just different.

Next, my Viet experience from Manhattan.

Be safe and thanks to all the members for the great information. Be safe, BP

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1352141]\ As I entered there was a gal by the door, right before the place where they hang their coats. She approached me but I had just arrived so I wanted to have a beer and check the environment first. After a while I came back to the area and she asked me if I was ready, I replied no yet and asked how much. She replied with the usual rate of Y1000 and pulled her blouse down to show me a size B right breast. I did not answer and went back around one more time checking the talent, the usual Viets and one or two Phils. Once again we run into each other and she made a more concerted effort to get my attention, I ask: where are you from? She replied Anhui province, she claimed to be an student in Shanghai. This got my attention as I heard many times about the difficulty of finding Chinese girls is Manhattan, so I continue the conversation. Bottom line, I offered Y500 and she replied OK plus some taxi fare, off we went. The interesting part is that she was not wearing your classic working girl outfit, but rather street clothes and she had two bags with her, one with a notebook computer. In the taxi she said "we have to get condoms" she spoke to the driver in Chinese and after a while he stopped at a convenience store. I got out and as I was looking for the condoms she came in the store, asked the lady something and grabbed a box of twelve. I though, shit, you are going to have fun tonight.

We went up to the room and took showers, she took out an electric toothbrush, asked me for toothpaste and spent a long time brushing her teeth. Don't mean to be too detailed, but I found the situation rather unusual, that's why I'm writing about it. Anyway, I had a great experience, she had a tube of lubricant and she mentioned that she uses it on herself some times, to which I replied: "show me" She proceeded to masturbate for a while and that really got me going, she saw I was ready. She started with a BBBJ and some balls nibbling, my first time. Then she continued with cowgirl and went thru all possible positions, we finished doggie. Then she turned around and started to blow me, which I found very exciting. I got the feeling that she was enjoying it more than me.

After the action we talk for a bit then she say "goodnight" and went to sleep. Next morning we repeated and she departed. We did not get to use all the condoms, actually she took the rest with her when she left. Amazing, they will walk away with anything that it is not in the safe or bolted down.

Bottom line, Manhattan is the place and I cannot wait to get back to China. I'm torn between that and Havana Cafe in Makati, I think that the prices in the Philippines are better, but the talent is just different.

Next, my Viet experience from Manhattan.

Be safe and thanks to all the members for the great information. Be safe, BP[/QUOTE]Wait a minute. You picked up a non viet girl in Manhattons near the door? Did she have a deep voice and large hands?

Twelve pack of condoms? Carries lube? Sounds interesting.

Just busting your balls. Sounds like you had fun.

[QUOTE=Old South; 1350956]I had posted about the difficulties in finding Chinese WGs in places like Manhattan, where I did pick up a good looking vietnamese, but I would much prefer a girl with whom I can have a lot more conversing to make her feel more comfortable with me. Someone suggested other bars in SH, but due to my limited time there, I was not able to venture out more.

I did have good luck the outcalls so to help others who don't have time, like having just one night in SH, I would say using a provider is a good alternative. On the other hand, if you are ok with foreign girls, then Manhattan is really the best bar to pick them up in all of China, even better then Neptune 2 in Wan Chai.

I don't know how many providers are in SH, but I just looked up classified and found Sophie. First girl she sent me was in the afternoon, and older girl about 24, excellent GFE, she had her cum during 69 and wanted more. I wanted to see her again later that night but she had a birthday party to go to, so I asked Sophie for another girl, this time a 19 yr old. When she arrived in my hotel lobby, for my typical warm up routine of a glass of wine, she was not as friendly as the older girl. When we got into my room, she immediately asked for money up front. I told her I had someone else in the afternoon and no money was mentioned in the entire process, but she insisted on money first, this kind of attitude completely ruined my mood. I called Sophie and asked if I can reject her, and she said absolutely, so I paid her taxi money and ask her to get out, despite of the fact that she was 19 and very hot. I didn't want to just sit and wait for Sophie to send another girl to me, so I went to Manhattan instead.

So if you are looking for a girl to be sent to your room, ask for someone who is around 22-24. I sort of already knew this, but caved in for the sound of a 19 yr old and learnt my lesson, again.

Oh, the 24 yr old did WeChat her party photos to me that night, how sweet.

OS[/QUOTE]Hey OS. Great report. You're right on. In BKK the real hotties are 19. 22. Model types. They all seem to have boyfriends, don't want to stay LT, always worrying about their hair & make-up, etc. And in bed, although they might have a 10 body, they act like starfish. Next age group up. 22. 24 love the attention we give them, want to go for a bite to eat & hangout, give a really good GFE and are a lot more skillful in bed. One recent girl woke me up with a BBBJ. Better than an alarm clock! Once in awhile though I just have to have that young 10. Too sexy to resist, so I'll take her ST. Then go back out to a different club to find the LT GFE one.

So. BTW, which classified source did you use to find Sophie?

Thanks for your post!

[QUOTE=DeepDeeper; 1351071]Hey guy, was in SH around end of last month. Stayed at jinjiang hotel sorry for the late report, but I think I really needed to give a report for the help the other members gave.

Reached SH late in the evening. The flight got delayed by an hour so by the time reach the hotel it was already 10. 30. While entering the building a girl stand by asked if needed massage. I just didn't bother and walked in case was a little tired and wanted to check in first and then decide what to do. The reception was really slow with the process and I decided to have a smoke, so went outside. The same girl approached again. This time I decided WTF lets get the prices at least. She gave me a card. And she said can call me if you need services. I looked at her she was about 6. Slim and firm body and small titties. But cute you could say. Spoke ok English. So go back in and the check in completed. Went to the room. Nice rooms BTW. I've stayed here before. The rooms are good.

After getting fresh had a drink and thought of calling her. Called. Asked her how much for a massage. She started with Thai massage and Chinese massage. I interrupted her said I need sex massage. She said ok for that need 2000. I said are you crazy. I've never paid more than 500. Negiotiating and bought her down to 600. She agreed. And said she will send the girl to my room in 20 minutes. I said ok. Give her the room. After about 5 min. The door was knocked and I opened. It was her.

She said a beautiful girl is on the way. Will be here in 15 mins, I said ok. She came in. I asked her what she did. She said I do other massages don't do FS. But have f friends who do. I said fine. She started asking for money. Said no way money only after the dead is done. Ad if I don't like the girl you and your girl both would be out. She said ok. Se just went on talking, wouldn't stop. I just stared at her. She was nice. I thought of some fun before the other girl arrived. Asked her to come and sit besides me. Which she did, tried to touch her while she was talking she just got up. Said no. No. I don't do it. I said WTF, I'm not doing anything just checking you out. She again came and sit. With me. Touched her again. T which she didn't mind. And went further. Asked her to get rid of the shirt. She resisted first but later gave in. Opened her shirt. Reached for her bra. Again a little resistance but gave in. She had nice small it firm titles. Almost mouthful. Started sucking on then and she also seemed to enjoy it l no resistance and good fun.

Soon my had went down south to which she jut got a little annoyed. Claimed her down and continue sucking. Again tried it and this time she didn't mind. My hand in her jeans and almost fingering her. I could feel she got wet by now. But then her phone rang. The girl she asked had arrived. She got up quickly to get dressed. I asked her what happened. She said the other girl here. Will not look nice that we already doing something. To which I was like really surprised. Se got dressed fast and asked me for a tip. I thought it was good 20 mins of fun. So gave her 100. She was happy.

Now her friend reached. About 7, and I agreed to keep her. And the before girl left. It's girl seemed prettier than her friend and also big boobs. I was already horney so decided to get with the act. She undressed and we both went for a shower. Bck to the room. To cut the story short. It was just mechanical. Nothing great. Typical CB, doggy and then finished in mish. She wouldn't even do a BJ. That was bad. (forgot to ask this when making the deal) so no surprise. She left soon.

Felt nothing great. In fact the massage girl was better with the little teasing and more playful. Had her # so thought would call her tomorrow to see.

Next went on with work all day and by the time reached hotel it was already 8. After reached room. Gt a call frm the massage girl. Maybe she saw me entering. She asked if wanted massage. I said ok. U come. Now my mind was roaming, if could continue from where we left last night. She came a nd believe me she looked hotter than last night. So started with the regular chit chat and moved closer to her. I assume she knew what was going to come. Started touching her and she didn't object. And we were into it very fast. I guess last night tip of 100 rmb worked. In the it was a much much better experience than the before night. Almost GFE. We lied in the bed talking and she told me she usually don't do FS. I didn't have reason to believe her, but the point remained that, no money was discussed till that time. Had another shot. At around 1 am she said she has to go. Her roommate was waiting for her. Asked her to stay she said couldn't. Anyways asked her how much. She said whatever you want to give is ok. Gave her 800 plus some bills from my country which she asked for.

Nice experience. Next mornig had to leave SH for smaller cities in the trip. Would meet her definetly again on my next visit to SH which should be in about a month.

Didn't get a chance to go to judys or zapatas or manhattan. Would take out some time in next trip for the club scene as well.

Till then play safe and happy mongering.

To the senior members specially Gregory. Thanks a lot buddy. For the help.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report! Jin Jiang Hotel is 5* and no problem bringing in a guest?

Anyone know a better priced, girl-friendly hotel near Manhattan? Thanks!

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1352359]Thanks for a great report! Jin Jiang Hotel is 5* and no problem bringing in a guest?

Anyone know a better priced, girl-friendly hotel near Manhattan? Thanks![/QUOTE]Can you avoid to quote the entire post when there is already a link to it in the quote? You are taking much screen space to sow what bus already on display below.

[QUOTE=Fatso;1350537]There has earlier been postings related to Shaanxi Lu / Changping Lu and recommendations for number 8. I never found a place where number 8 worked. Or at least not a place where the number 8 with super-titties was present. What I did find, in that crossing, was a nice place more or less specialized in BBBJ. On Changping Lu, on north-western side of the crossing, there is a place which looks like a high end massage joint. Entry has Buddha face / walk up some stairs, buddha figures and Thai inspired decorations, piped smooth new age music and nicely decorated rooms with showers. They had a menu but informed me that now only the most pricy / comprehensive option (think it was 368) was available. Did this 4 times over a couple of weeks, same drill. She prepare room, shower alone, onto table, decent but short massage (a little different from each girl) , then over, off with the top, and a nice BBJ to completion including various degrees of CIM. Then another shower. No tip, pay at the desk, membership card offered, I don't want to walk around with any cards so I paid each time the approx 368 think it is 328 with card. Good service, reasonably attractive girls. Wonder about their health over time but alas too great of a place to really worry to much about it. Recommended.[/QUOTE]I was who recommended the #8 with the impressive tits. She left around 1-2 months ago, probably at the same time the place changed their massage offer. Before they had several options being the most popular the CBJ with obviously cover CIM. I guess my little friend (19yo) did not want to provide the such service by default (don't blame her at all). She is now in a massage place in Pudong where they charge 380rmb for a fantastic back massage according to her (I am not crossing half town for a back massage at that rate, even for those massive tits).

I've been once after they changed the menu and paid 346 with the VIP card, which I cut and disposed after getting out of the place. Almost all the nice girls working there left.

Close to that massage place there is another one: in the same cross, in the south west of shaanxi. Looks like they also made an upgrade and now they offer some BBBJ without CIM. I paid 200 but maybe it was kind of a promo. Facilities are not as good as in the other place but acceptable. Girls slightly over the average.

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1350250]In my first night I went to the massage place located in Shaanxi and Changping. No problem finding the place as the directions in the board are precise. Took my shoes of and was guided to a room, two minutes later the girl shows up and she was maybe a 7/10. I don't speak Chinese so it was very difficult to communicate, she put some effort and I found that it was Y258 for massage, rimming and CBJ. We proceeded with the activities and it was not bad for the price. I also got a breast rubbing all over which was quite enjoyable. I believe that I will repeat. Next stop is Manhattan.

Thanks to the senior member for all the good info.

Cheers, BP[/QUOTE]For rimming they use the fake tongue thing and regarding the CBJ, maybe I was lucky but I got BBBJ and finished on her tits. She was #8 (I think I have a fixation for that number). Not bad.

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1352359]Thanks for a great report! Jin Jiang Hotel is 5* and no problem bringing in a guest?

Anyone know a better priced, girl-friendly hotel near Manhattan? Thanks![/QUOTE]Ters absolutely no problem. Nobody cares. In fact the last time I stayed there, there were a couple of WG s in the lobby waiting to be taken to the room. One of them approached me as we'll. But she wasn't my types so I passed.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1352372]Can you avoid to quote.

So do I manually delete it then?

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1352503]

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1352372]Can you avoid to quote.

So do I manually delete it then?[/QUOTE]Now it is too late. Normally you should edit the long quote by deleting manually most of it, leaving the essential or opening sentence,

Being at the first place last night for the first time, found the place easily thanks to the directions posted in this forum. The place is very neat, I would never imagined they provide such a service in a similar premises, it looks like an upscale massage place. Asked for the famous #18 but she was not available, so got #12, quite skinny, average look (not bad though). Went in the room, got a shower, changed and laid down waiting for the lady getting back with her stuff.

Massage started from the back, quite light and definitly not to be remembered of, but hey, was not to heal some back pain I was there.

After 15/20 minutes of massage was asked to turn, than the magic happened. The lady took off her shirt and bran revealing a very big pair of tits, not proportioned to the skinny body. She started massaging me with her melons, let me suck them at my desire, than cleaned the little brother that meanwhile got quite lively and started a very good BBBJ. When I couldn't take it any longer I released the full load in her mouth, she waited me to be done before letting it go. I was not expecting a complete CIM bit that was a very nice surprise. #12 is from Hubei, being working there for a couple months, she is in her early 20's. Don't remember her name, something-xiao but apparently 80% of massage lady are little.something.

Gave a little tip (she deserved it) than got out ti pay. They didn't told me at the entrance the price, was charged 368 and given the membership card, next time 30 rmb off. The guy at the entrance is able to talk a little english, Saw few cuties while leaving, definitily will go back, not the closest massage to my place but definitely clean and great service. I will try some other girls, just to change, however #12 is recommended.

Enjoy,

Paperino69

[QUOTE=Mgp23; 1352057]Good to hear the news. You didn't say anything about the girl, did you have number 8? If it's the right girl she has a great body and very pretty face. Also one of the best tits. Was it her?

I've been to this place 2 times, prices were 208 HJ and 288 (I think) BJ, but people said is was covered so I never bothered. I had #8 for the HJ price + tip to get her completely naked.

So you are saying that now only option is 368 and without tips you get a BBBJ + tits?[/QUOTE]Had the same experience. 368 including BBBJ and tits. To me considering the clean place it is a good deal.

Pap69

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1351214]Band of brothers.

Hi Gregory. Hi dudes.

Yesterday I invite 5 gems to dinner together.

Really funny time. LOL.

Some other photos for the pleasure of you all.

But come on dudes.

Some photo of yours?[/QUOTE]Haha great to see you are always having enjoying ShanghaiNemo! I look forward next time hanging out together, got some real fun last time.

Paperino69

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1352341]Hey OS. Great report. You're right on. In BKK the real hotties are 19. 22. Model types. They all seem to have boyfriends, don't want to stay LT, always worrying about their hair & make-up, etc. And in bed, although they might have a 10 body, they act like starfish. Next age group up. 22. 24 love the attention we give them, want to go for a bite to eat & hangout, give a really good GFE and are a lot more skillful in bed. One recent girl woke me up with a BBBJ. Better than an alarm clock! Once in awhile though I just have to have that young 10. Too sexy to resist, so I'll take her ST. Then go back out to a different club to find the LT GFE one.

So. BTW, which classified source did you use to find Sophie?

Thanks for your post![/QUOTE]Woke up with a BBBJ, huh? You are such a happy man.

Her classified ads said SophieBJ, so it was kind of confusing, she is really SH based. Yes, between Sophia's girls and Manhattan, I just can't wait to get back to Shanghai.

OS

"For rimming they use the fake tongue thing"

Now I understand, she left me alone for the shower. Unlike others who ensure that the area is perfectly clean.

Clarification: This was at the place in the SW corner, going up a few steps. Walked around for a while but could not find the one with the Buddha, may the jet lag.

BP

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1352746]"For rimming they use the fake tongue thing"

Now I understand, she left me alone for the shower. Unlike others who ensure that the area is perfectly clean.

Clarification: This was at the place in the SW corner, going up a few steps. Walked around for a while but could not find the one with the Buddha, may the jet lag.

BP[/QUOTE]You need to walk across the street to the north and walk down about 3-4 store fronts. It says massage. The carpet is red. When you walk up the stairs you will see the Buddha and know you are in the right place. I did not have a good experience there. Others have hadvery good experiences. So YMMV.

I prefer the SW corner. It is cheaper, the service was better. Service wtih #18 was a 9. And service with another was probably an 8. (I am talking service not looks). I would give them both a 7-8.

Sam,

[QUOTE=Landa2;1352394]I was who recommended the #8 with the impressive tits. She left around 1-2 months ago, probably at the same time the place changed their massage offer. Before they had several options being the most popular the CBJ with obviously cover CIM. I guess my little friend (19yo) did not want to provide the such service by default (don't blame her at all). She is now in a massage place in Pudong where they charge 380rmb for a fantastic back massage according to her (I am not crossing half town for a back massage at that rate, even for those massive tits).[/QUOTE]Where is this massage place, and what kind of action?

[QUOTE=Paperino69; 1352566]Being at the first place last night for the first time, found the place easily thanks to the directions posted in this forum. The place is very neat, I would never imagined they provide such a service in a similar premises, it looks like an upscale massage place. Asked for the famous #18 but she was not available, so got #12, quite skinny, average look (not bad though). Went in the room, got a shower, changed and laid down waiting for the lady getting back with her stuff.

Massage started from the back, quite light and definitly not to be remembered of, but hey, was not to heal some back pain I was there.

After 15/20 minutes of massage was asked to turn, than the magic happened. The lady took off her shirt and bran revealing a very big pair of tits, not proportioned to the skinny body. She started massaging me with her melons, let me suck them at my desire, than cleaned the little brother that meanwhile got quite lively and started a very good BBBJ. When I couldn't take it any longer I released the full load in her mouth, she waited me to be done before letting it go. I was not expecting a complete CIM bit that was a very nice surprise. #12 is from Hubei, being working there for a couple months, she is in her early 20's. Don't remember her name, something-xiao but apparently 80% of massage lady are little. Something.

Gave a little tip (she deserved it) than got out ti pay. They didn't told me at the entrance the price, was charged 368 and given the membership card, next time 30 rmb off. The guy at the entrance is able to talk a little english, Saw few cuties while leaving, definitily will go back, not the closest massage to my place but definitely clean and great service. I will try some other girls, just to change, however #12 is recommended.

Enjoy,

Paperino69[/QUOTE]My Dear Pap,

We need do sit together. Eehehhe tonight I ll try you are subjection, and by the way a new tall girl in my location in gubei area. WTF! Long legs, enough bra. Great great BJ cim! Sorry this time no photos, cause my gem same time was busy to cum in my mouth!

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1352341]Hey OS. Great report. You're right on. In BKK the real hotties are 19. 22. Model types. They all seem to have boyfriends, don't want to stay LT, always worrying about their hair & make-up, etc. And in bed, although they might have a 10 body, they act like starfish. Next age group up. 22. 24 love the attention we give them, want to go for a bite to eat & hangout, give a really good GFE and are a lot more skillful in bed. One recent girl woke me up with a BBBJ. Better than an alarm clock! Once in awhile though I just have to have that young 10. Too sexy to resist, so I'll take her ST. Then go back out to a different club to find the LT GFE one.

So. BTW, which classified source did you use to find Sophie?

Thanks for your post![/QUOTE]Hello, Sorry what is "BKK"? Thank you!

Bro's,

Any suggestions for good outcall massage in SH?

As all website have fake pictures. I thought you would be the best to help.

Thanks You!

[QUOTE=Goldboy;1353453]Hello, Sorry what is "BKK"? Thank you![/QUOTE]BKK = Abbreviation for Bangkok.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Gagafan1;1353302]Where is this massage place, and what kind of action?[/QUOTE]It is on the street corner Changping and Shaanxi North Road, on Shaanxi Road, on the right side, when you come from the east (Bund).

Went there last night, service as described, but the girl I had (#28, Dandan) was not really to write home about.

Lev

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1353695]It is on the street corner Changping and Shaanxi North Road, on Shaanxi Road, on the right side, when you come from the east (Bund).

Went there last night, service as described, but the girl I had (#28, Dandan) was not really to write home about.

Lev[/QUOTE]You are talking about the Pudong place? With the fantastic back massage?

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts;1353645]Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.[/QUOTE]How much? And where can we find her?

Thanks

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1353645]Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.

I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwi. Se. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.

I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.

She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.

Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.[/QUOTE]Yes, and last Christmas, you had a beer with Santa Claus and smoked wheat with his reindeers.

Lev

Hello, Gentlemen. I want to share my experience with this agency.

Looks like it is western managed. Manager speaks nice english.

Firstly agreed on 2200RMB, girl's name is Lily. CIM, COF and stockings should have been included.

Unfortunately my expectations were a bit high.

Girl is nice. Body is amazing, very pretty on face. Hairy legs. (NO stockings, NO CIM, NO CIF.

Talked to the manager, he answered that we didin't sign any contract (verbally f*ck off).

Well no big difference from Chinese services.

I guess you can easily find the viet girls in Manhattan or other club. It will be much cheaper.

Don't make my mistake again.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1353645]Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.

I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.

I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.

She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.

Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.[/QUOTE]Seeing your post, you have ads all over. Seems to troll pretty hard, but don't really know. You need to provide more details to really gain our trust.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353284#post1353284[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353287#post1353287[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353316#post1353316[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1353320#post1353320[/url]

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1353645]Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.

I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.

I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.

She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.

Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.[/QUOTE]Seems like advertiser as the post you have done before are all ads. Trolling pretty hard. Need to provide more details to be more credible.

His posts before.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2318-Classified-Ads&p=1353320#post1353320[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353316#post1353316[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353287#post1353287[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?939-North-China-Beijing&p=1353284#post1353284[/url]

[QUOTE=DonLuis; 1353502]Bro's,

Any suggestions for good outcall massage in SH?

As all website have fake pictures. I thought you would be the best to help.

Thanks You![/QUOTE]I know for sure 2 girls that are true in the website. Cindy and Rainin.

It all depends what are you looking for.

Be little more clear and I guess here we ll support you!

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1353769]Yes, and last Christmas, you had a beer with Santa Claus and smoked wheat with his reindeers.

Lev[/QUOTE]Lev. You are great!

LOL

[QUOTE=Gagafan1;1353302]Where is this massage place, and what kind of action?[/QUOTE]She told me few weeks ago and I checked it on google maps but I can't remember where is it. If you are really interested let me know and I will contact her again but maybe the service in that massage place is just a massage. The girl is very nice and despite not being so into it as the other girls in the changping venue her big and firm young tits really drove me crazy. I am sure more people in the forum tried her before.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts;1353645]Well, this is my first post. .[/QUOTE]Have you decided what you are? A monger or Gina?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1353895]Have you decided what you are? A monger or Gina?[/QUOTE]Chinaescort, you think we all are moron?

Several post around with same words but different name.

Sz player and so on.

At least change little the words.

Sand like Lev wrote.

I guess you smoke already all the production of weed of couple country.

Pimp or not, what really matters is whether the photo and description are real.

My outcall experience in China is really hit or miss, and there is a larger tendency to be on the miss side.

So I generally prefer saunas with fishbowls, at least you get what you see.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1353917]Pimp or not, what really matters is whether the photo and description are real.

My outcall experience in China is really hit or miss, and there is a larger tendency to be on the miss side.

So I generally prefer saunas with fishbowls, at least you get what you see.[/QUOTE]If you einlarge the photo you actually can see a watermark, so I guess it is fake, like the whole thing.

Lev

Inbox me with details please.

In SH now.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1353645]Well, this is my first post. I have been here for 3 years now in Shenzhen and I have been to a lot of different places, mostly thanks to you guys and your reports, now its time to give back.

I know what you are thinking, online girl very risky but honestly she was the best I have ever had paid or otherwise. My Chinese is quite good so we could communicate quite well, but she has only been doing this for a few weeks and I was her first foreigner, or so she said.

I called after seeing her ad online. 1 hour later she appeared at the hotel and the moment she walked in the door she took her dress off, I thought right down to business, but then she pushed me to the bed and straddled me in her underwear, she was stunning. Anyway a little fondling and then we showered together. We tried every position I knew and she taught me a new one too.

She was tight and she even let me try her from behind, she seemed to enjoy it actually.

Anyway spare you the details but I thought I would share her link with you, honestly guys you have got to give her a try. I have had at least 150 girls from all over China, but I must say she was the best of the best. I can vouch for her pictures, She mentioned that she has a western BF so she was quite comfortable around me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1354034]If you einlarge the photo you actually can see a watermark, so I guess it is fake, like the whole thing.

Lev[/QUOTE]I checked it with google picture search. Definitly not a real picture of a shanghai escort girl.
Several pages show the same pictures.

Google guess it is her: 阿 朵 乳

Hello Guys.

Went to Manhattan last night. Great spread but prices were too high. Ended up with a not so good looking but nice bodied Chinese Girl. Am sure among all the guys out there. Few are member here. Do mail back. Lets party together.

Cheers.

Will be there again tonight around 10.

[QUOTE=Landa2;1352398]For rimming they use the fake tongue thing and regarding the CBJ, maybe I was lucky but I got BBBJ and finished on her tits. She was #8 (I think I have a fixation for that number). Not bad.[/QUOTE]My last real cutie in CP used some sort of antibiotic cream that she inserted in and around my a-hole with her finger during our shower together. Then she used her tongue on me without a fake tongue cover. EXCELLENT experience!

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1353889]I know for sure 2 girls that are true in the website. Cindy and Rainin.

It all depends what are you looking for.

Be little more clear and I guess here we ll support you![/QUOTE]_________________________________________________________.

I can only second Captain "Nemo" (or fish? Haha.)

Both girls are real (if the website you refer to is "shanghai-nightlife-guide")

And I like to add another reality check done by myself, in addition to those two:

"Beverly". She is my regular since long time.

(I'd rather keep her for myself, haha.)

Gregory

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1354197]_________________________________________________________.

I can only second Captain "Nemo" (or fish? Haha.)

Both girls are real (if the website you refer to is "shanghai-nightlife-guide")

And I like to add another reality check done by myself, in addition to those two:

"Beverly". She is my regular since long time.

(I'd rather keep her for myself, haha.)

Gregory[/QUOTE]I did Kelly from Shanghai Nightlife Guide. Picture is not real, but she is open about it, as she does not want family / friends to see. She is much more "asian" than the picture. She is super nice, and has probably the nicest tits of Shanghai! 1500 RMB massage+BJ+CIM. 1900 RMB FS.

Enjoy.

I stayed in Eton Hotel recently and decided to check the area nearby. Behind the hotel, on Changyi Road there are some massage parlours and placed that look like girlie bars. I was walking the other side of the road and the ladies would yell over the road whether I needed a Chinese girlfriend. I rather like those places that have no touts.

So I walked into a small quiet massage parlour on the end of Dongfang Road (when you walk from Pudong Avenue past Changyi Road, it is on the righthand side of Dongfang Road).

I was shown the menu and picked a full body massage for 300 RMB, and the girl said for a tip I a HJ was included. I was too tired for FS and too lazy to look further so I gave it a try. I speak some Chinese so I am sure we agreed on a tip of 50 RMB. After the HJ (which was ok) she told me she wanted a tip of 500. As a precaution, my wallet was empty save 400 RMB, no cards, no I'd, so after some haggling (and me reiterating that I had understood 50, not 500) and telling her to give me her phone number she didn't make a fuzz and I left without trouble.

So to make a short story shorter: If you are in need near Eton hotel, do avoid that place.

[QUOTE=Landa2;1353894]She told me few weeks ago and I checked it on google maps but I can't remember where is it. If you are really interested let me know and I will contact her again but maybe the service in that massage place is just a massage. The girl is very nice and despite not being so into it as the other girls in the changping venue her big and firm young tits really drove me crazy. I am sure more people in the forum tried her before.[/QUOTE]Yea, would love to know. If you could ask whether or not there is anything special, I would really appreciate it.

Hello all,

Three things to comment on! Please keep an eye on the place on the 3rd paragraph!

1) It's been a while since I wrote a long report on some places around Jing'An. It's nice to read that you guys are enjoying the revamped massage packages at Changping Road, west of Shaanxi Road. That place on the 2nd floor with a cool bald guy in the reception is kickass. The legendary #8 it's been gone since long time ago, but the other 5 girls are really good as well. You can do DATY if you want, BTW. Just push a little bit and they'll let you go for it. 69s are fun. I think this is one of my fav places lately.

2) It's a shame that the massage place on the SW corner of Shaanxi / Changping is decaying. It was a 24/7 massage place, with hot selections. #17 and #9 allowed full service for just a 200rmb tip. Condom included. Months later, I came back and found out that the good girls left and the ones that still work there are too mechanical. Their price got down to 200. The trick is. All the girls will ask for tips now. Avoid this place.

3) AWESOME PLACE AHEAD!. I went for an early walk on a Sunday, and found this massage place on Yuyao Road, next to a small Japanese restaurant and a pet shop thingy. It's across the road from Shanghai Winn / Muse / Sky Club.

There were only 3 girls talking on the couch. Nicely dressed. Casual clothes.

Nothing that screams 'come in and cum' like in other places I've been to.

So anyway. Went in, asked for a massage. They had a $300 and a $400 option. Took the pricey one because I'm fkn adventurous.

I get in a room with a small massage bed and MIRRORS fkn everywhere. Ceiling, walls, door, etc. She asked me to take a shower first.

While I was drying with a towel, she took off all her clothes and asked me to lay down for a back massage. She massaged me with her tonge. Real tonge. Not that fake jelly shit. After a big rimming session, she flipped me over, a little violently. She started a BBBJ. Amazing sucking and licking skills. I was at full power expecting for an awesome CIM.

Somehow, I lost track of what she was doing during the moment. All I know is that she took a 3-4 second pause. After that, she goes back to the BBBJ. Then, while she was blowing me, she literally put a condom on it. FKN GENIOUS. I've never seen anything like that before LOL. Out of nowhere, there was a condom on my Johnny, ready for the rest of the session.

She went nuts on top of it, then I politely asked her if I can do anal. She violently punched me in the shoulder. I laughed. It was worth a try.

Anyway. Almost there she makes a sign like 'don't! ' when she noticed I was about to cum. She pushed me out, grabbed the condom out and did another BBBJ until I got a nice CIM. She spit it out.

This. For 400.

Best shit ever.

Now the sad part.

I saw the place open for a few more nights, and came back there a couple of times (lots LOL). One day, about 3 weeks ago, they closed.

Haven't reopened since.

I'll keep an eye on it. I live across the street anyway. :P.

As soon as I see action, I'll let you mongers know.

[QUOTE=Landa2;1353894]She told me few weeks ago and I checked it on google maps but I can't remember where is it. If you are really interested let me know and I will contact her again but maybe the service in that massage place is just a massage. The girl is very nice and despite not being so into it as the other girls in the changping venue her big and firm young tits really drove me crazy. I am sure more people in the forum tried her before.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. You said everything, worth a try.

[QUOTE=XikangLu; 1315785]Hey guys, I'm new here but I've been wandering Shanghai for a while.

[B]be) Massage at Shaanxi Bei Lu. Between Xinfeng Lu and Anyuan, next to a minimart. FUCKING HEAVEN. [/B]

My favorite place in Jing'An. Bath + Scrubbing + Oil Massage + Prostate Massage / HE for around 390. Pick the girl #8 (I rate her 9/10. Best tits ever.) for the best HJ of your life. Or if you're very adventurous, pick #3 (30ish with some cool looking tattoo on her belly) and try to get to know her. If you give her $200 or so before hand, she will do terrible (awesome) things to you. For some reason, I've found this trick to work in other places as well. You tip beforehand and they end up doing awesome things.

I've had GFE / FS with this cute girl (#5) many times, but you got to work that out. It took me a few visits to get her to know me and eventually turn her into a beast on each visit. This only works if you pay for the big massage pack, though. Their commision must be bigger I guess.

They also have a 'double phoenix royal massage' thing, or something that sounds like that. It's an incredible session with 2 girls (usually #8 and #5) that will give you an unforgetable experience. No FS / BBBJ on that one, but it's damn worth it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mgp23;1321505]I had #8, her tits are really great, but she's a 7/10 to me. Over 30, but the service compensates. Amazing HJ, and she's so nice, really good attitude.[/QUOTE]I think #8 is gone, anyone can confirm that? Or give an update on the MP girls here.

Practice in Korean establishments in the US is the installation of the condom while she gives you a blow job. Is done with the condom in the mouth when they start. You may think it's a bb blow job but isn't. The way Chinese girls cover your dick isn't the only, or the best way. And most Korean girls fuck as well as Chinese girls, some Korean girls fuck me better. I will see a favorite in the US later this month.

[QUOTE=XikangLu; 1355115]Hello all,

Three things to comment on! Please keep an eye on the place on the 3rd paragraph!

While I was drying with a towel, she took off all her clothes and asked me to lay down for a back massage. She massaged me with her tonge. Real tonge. Not that fake jelly shit. After a big rimming session, she flipped me over, a little violently. She started a BBBJ. Amazing sucking and licking skills. I was at full power expecting for an awesome CIM.

Somehow, I lost track of what she was doing during the moment. All I know is that she took a 3-4 second pause. After that, she goes back to the BBBJ. Then, while she was blowing me, she literally put a condom on it. FKN GENIOUS. I've never seen anything like that before LOL. Out of nowhere, there was a condom on my Johnny, ready for the rest of the session.

[QUOTE=Gagafan1;1354904]Yea, would love to know. If you could ask whether or not there is anything special, I would really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I would also like to know where Famous No. 8 can now be found in Pudong. Any guidance appreciated.

Xijang Lu or others, has anyone seen #18 from the Shaanxi Lu? She was at the lao jia until November 30.

Hi Fellas,

I've tried both places on Shaanxi lu Changping lu recently and here is what I've experienced:

1. Buddha place.

It is the one on Changping lu, West from the crossing, just look for a store with a yellow unlit massage sing + the buddha inside.

It is an upscale place (336RMB / 60m) , but the service was bad. Got the girl from reception ( 7) , the massage was a bad joke. She only touched my spine area for like 20 mins, then proceeded with a BBBJ which was more like a BBHJ, since she barely took it in. Not good. The whole thing felt like a BBS experience.

2. SW place up some stairs.

It is much cheaper (200RMB) looks crappy from outside, but ok inside. Massage was ok. Girl was kinda ugly ( 5) but had a great attitude, and made a good effort in GFE: kissing everywhere even licking my ears, then a HJ (she said no BJ). She clearly had no idea how to do a HJ but it was still good because of all she did before.

In conclusion; I would not recommend these places.

[QUOTE=Grovian1981; 1355529]Hi Fellas,

I've tried both places on Shaanxi lu Changping lu recently and here is what I've experienced:

1. Buddha place.

It is the one on Changping lu, West from the crossing, just look for a store with a yellow unlit massage sing + the buddha inside.

It is an upscale place (336RMB / 60m) , but the service was bad. Got the girl from reception (7) , the massage was a bad joke. She only touched my spine area for like 20 mins, then proceeded with a BBBJ which was more like a BBHJ, since she barely took it in. Not good. The whole thing felt like a BBS experience.

2. SW place up some stairs.

It is much cheaper (200RMB) looks crappy from outside, but ok inside. Massage was ok. Girl was kinda ugly (5) but had a great attitude, and made a good effort in GFE: kissing everywhere even licking my ears, then a HJ (she said no BJ). She clearly had no idea how to do a HJ but it was still good because of all she did before.

In conclusion; I would not recommend these places.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! My Chanping lu experience was the same! I did however do much better in Shanxi lu with #18. There was another girl that wasnt bad looking but similar to your experience.

I just returned from Shanghai where my P4P experience was two trips to Bodi Spa (For those following: spa entrance is unlabeled, but it is at at the far left section of the Bodi Botique Hotel building face).

I speak no Chinese, so I just showed up each time and went where I was led. Dozens of staff were running around, and many would take a turn guiding me partway toward the next location. My Bodi path: Reception to get a numbered wristband, locker room to change to robe, a waiting area for a drink, perhaps next a room to pick a girl, then massage room for the main event (described below) , back downstairs, then a questioner asking "back home?", locker room after answering "yes", reception to pay Y880. The end. Each visit was 100 min total, with me spending 75min with the girl. I did not encounter ear-cleaning girls or offers for secondary services sometimes mentioned on this board.

For whatever reason I was not offered a choice during my first visit (Wed, just after lunchtime). #568 (or maybe it was #538) just appeared as I was led from the waiting room and she took me upstairs. She is very tall, thin, and has large enhanced breasts. Her naked body is smoking hot from the front, her face attractive but not beautiful, and I estimate her age at 28. She probably would not have been my choice, but it worked out very well. Her body made the nuru experience amazing, and she was slow and comprehensive with the fire / ice routine including rimming, balls, and deepthroat BBBJ. Just amazing. She put on a cover next, and we had decent sex with her fake moaning being the only turn-off. I feel I got full-service full service on that visit.

Next time I was offered a lineup and chose #663. She is a terribly cute twenty years old, with a gorgeous face. This little slip of a girl looked horrified that I chose her, but with no Chinese, I couldn't intervene to change my mind. I was guided outside the room and later meet up with her on the stairs. She smiled weakly, led me to a room, then undressed me and herself. Turned out she has no breasts, but I was able to school my face to show no disappointment. She washed us both and prepared for nuru. She started to act more playful during nuru and was comfortable by the time we got to fire / ice, but she really wasn't good at either. It was fun watching her try though. She put in some real effort when it came to the sex, and gave the impression of being very brave whenever I changed positions. Our sex seemed natural and I enjoyed her immensely. After sex she absolutely blossomed, curled at my side and looked at me adoringly for a long time. What followed was playful, immature banter that included tickling and her trying to explain her whole life to me by talking (in Chinese) through all the photos on her cellphone. I understood none of it but left with the impression that #663 was now my girlfriend, heh.

So, I post to the forum saying thanks for leading me to Bodi. One more note, almost every staff member asked me if I wanted two girls as I was being led around. I kept answering no since language was an issue and you guys hadn't explained what to expect with that. I would love to hear what I missed out on if someone could post an explanation. Thanks!

Any reports on good places for cosplay, rimming and group sex? If one place had all 3 it would be a dream come true. Preferably in Puxi area or around Zhongshan park.

Hey,

I recently moved to Shanghai. Could someone help me find a cheap place in, or near, Hongkou? I'm looking for blow jobs. And to be honest, I don't know what CIM, DFK and all the other shortenings stand for. Could someone clarify?

My budget does not go higher than 500rmb. Are there any places where the girls come to your apartment to do the "job"?

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

Newcomer here. I'd like to know some places I could go around Hongkou. Does anyone know of any cheaper ones? I'm looking for BJs and CIM. Or just the BJ. I would appreciate all the answers.

[QUOTE=Andy Shore; 1356108]Hi,

Newcomer here. I'd like to know some places I could go around Hongkou. Does anyone know of any cheaper ones? I'm looking for BJs and CIM. Or just the BJ. I would appreciate all the answers.[/QUOTE]I do recall reports about Zhapu Road, it was a very hot area many years ago, don't know if this is still the case.

Else, try the area around the Ocean Hotel, I think you can find some bbs there.

Lev

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1356190]I do recall reports about Zhapu Road, it was a very hot area many years ago, don't know if this is still the case.

Else, try the area around the Ocean Hotel, I think you can find some bbs there.

Lev[/QUOTE]Thanks! How do I know which ones do give BJs and happy endings? Can I ask that in the reception? Or do they have some kind of "sign" that I can relate to happy endings or something?

Thanks for the answer. Have a second question; does anyone know of massages you order to your home? I'd like to have a girl come to my apartment and give me a massage. But also happy ending with a BJ.

I'd appreciate all your answers. Thanks!

You missed out on two girls speaking Chinese to each other and mostly ignoring you.

[QUOTE=Pastoralist;1355791]So, I post to the forum saying thanks for leading me to Bodi. One more note, almost every staff member asked me if I wanted two girls as I was being led around. I kept answering no since language was an issue and you guys hadn't explained what to expect with that. I would love to hear what I missed out on if someone could post an explanation. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Andy Shore; 1356010]Hey,

I recently moved to Shanghai. Could someone help me find a cheap place in, or near, Hongkou? I'm looking for blow jobs. And to be honest, I don't know what CIM, DFK and all the other shortenings stand for. Could someone clarify?

My budget does not go higher than 500rmb. Are there any places where the girls come to your apartment to do the "job"?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Not familiar with Hongkou, but I can help with the shortenings. Just click on 'Abbreviations' at the top of the page next to 'Photo Gallery'.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1356287]You missed out on two girls speaking Chinese to each other and mostly ignoring you.[/QUOTE]Ha, that's a very funny reply, and you have it spot on! I picked the two girl option once. Repeat, once, and that's what you're bound to get 99% of the time.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1356310]Not familiar with Hongkou, but I can help with the shortenings. Just click on 'Abbreviations' at the top of the page next to 'Photo Gallery'.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Please share the places you know in Shanghai, who provide massage with BJ happy ending. Also tell the prices.

[QUOTE=Andy Shore;1356204]Thanks! How do I know which ones do give BJs and happy endings? Can I ask that in the reception? Or do they have some kind of "sign" that I can relate to happy endings or something?[/QUOTE]There is no real sign. The places that have the girls in sexy short skirts is usually a clue.

The best sign I can give you is RTFF. If you don't understand, use google under urban dictionary. There is more knowledge there than any post for information you ask here.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1356533]The best sign I can give you is RTFF. If you don't understand, use google under urban dictionary. There is more knowledge there than any post for information you ask here.[/QUOTE]There. Best advice. Happy searching!

Living in Changning area of Shanghai and was wondering I anyone have some recommendations for a good massage place or a Sanua?

Fellas.

Just back from my gem location.

My gf told me be careful today and tomorrow.

They all dress denim jeans today.

So dude. Specially in carreyfour area.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1356972]The picture is real.

[url]http://www.escortchn.com/shanghai-massage-shanghai-escort/escort-shanghai-0[/url]

Rate 1500rmb[/QUOTE]Yep. That's a real picture alright. I've seen lots of them and they look just like that. With people or objects in them.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts;1356972]The picture is real. Rate 1500rmb[/QUOTE]Apart the ridicuolous rate, apart that no doubt the girl is real and she does exist in real life, somwhere, but there is no guarantee she'll be the one knocking at the door fo caller, I am wondering whether this forum has moderators who can kick these classifieds out of here and put them at their place.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1357195]Apart the ridicuolous rate, apart that no doubt the girl is real and she does exist in real life, somwhere, but there is no guarantee she'll be the one knocking at the door fo caller, I am wondering whether this forum has moderators who can kick these classifieds out of here and put them at their place.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The Beijing forum is now almost useless due to the great number of fake posts for an outcall service

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1357195]Apart the ridicuolous rate, apart that no doubt the girl is real and she does exist in real life, somwhere, but there is no guarantee she'll be the one knocking at the door fo caller, I am wondering whether this forum has moderators who can kick these classifieds out of here and put them at their place.[/QUOTE]Do you have any information on the girl?

How do you know this picture is the girl's true picture?

To be honest, some of the outcall services are quite good. You can enjoy in the comfort of your hotel, the girls usually can speak a little English, and you can take them out for drinks, dinner, then back to the hotel, etc. Yes its pricey, but the experience can be positive, especially if you are a repeat customer. Every time I go to Beijing, and even in Shanghai, I enjoy the outcall services.

I agree the fake posts are bad, but seeing genuine reviews of outcall services has been helpful.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1357226]Agreed. The Beijing forum is now almost useless due to the great number of fake posts for an outcall service[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1356972]The picture is real.

[url]http://www.escortchn.com/shanghai-massage-shanghai-escort/escort-shanghai-0[/url]

Rate 1500rmb[/QUOTE]Maybe true, maybe fake, bottom line is someone selling something with only TWO posts doesn't have a lot of credibility here. AND, the post should be in the CLASSIFIEDS section.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai;1357255]I agree the fake posts are bad, but seeing genuine reviews of outcall services has been helpful.[/QUOTE]The Experienced reader will know how to detect a fake post but the newbies will not. That is the problem.

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1357242]Do you have any information on the girl?

How do you know this picture is the girl's true picture?[/QUOTE]Are you then implying the picture YOU posted in YOUR praise to get business is NOT the real girl you advertised?

We thought that already.

Happy you admitted that.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1357299]Are you then implying the picture YOU posted in YOUR praise to get business is NOT the real girl you advertised?

We thought that already.

Happy you admitted that.[/QUOTE]I just need to say that this girl is really, her photo is completely her own photo.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1357255]To be honest, some of the outcall services are quite good. You can enjoy in the comfort of your hotel, the girls usually can speak a little English, and you can take them out for drinks, dinner, then back to the hotel, etc. Yes its pricey, but the experience can be positive, especially if you are a repeat customer. Every time I go to Beijing, and even in Shanghai, I enjoy the outcall services.

I agree the fake posts are bad, but seeing genuine reviews of outcall services has been helpful.[/QUOTE]Gee, I thought I am the only one taking the outcall girls out, wow, really nice to know I am not alone. Yes, BJ / SH does have quality girls from outcall providers, not in other cities, but BJ / SH, and indeed, you do need to be a repeat customer, as the better quality girls do not just go out to any random callers.

OS

[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts;1357332]I just need to say that this girl is really, her photo is completely her own photo.[/QUOTE]As a possible pimp you need to improve your way of communication, then

I've read through the threads and could not find any info on areas, locales around the Pudong Airport.

Staying a few nights there at the Radisson Pudong, then heading on to Beijing.

I know I can go downtown to Shanghai, but are their any good recommendations out in Pudong?

Thanks in advance.

BG

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1357195]Apart the ridicuolous rate, apart that no doubt the girl is real and she does exist in real life, somwhere, but there is no guarantee she'll be the one knocking at the door fo caller, I am wondering whether this forum has moderators who can kick these classifieds out of here and put them at their place.[/QUOTE]Guys,

I agree that we should kick Ads to the Class. Ads threads.

There's a little button; triangular icon with the exclaimation mark in the center, on the bottom left hand of the report that says "Report this post". Click it and report it as a Spam.

With enough people doing that, Jackson will kick that member out. Why waste space and time on a spam?

Enjoy!

AG

[QUOTE=BeachGuy8; 1357511]I've read through the threads and could not find any info on areas, locales around the Pudong Airport.

Staying a few nights there at the Radisson Pudong, then heading on to Beijing.

I know I can go downtown to Shanghai, but are their any good recommendations out in Pudong?

Thanks in advance.

BG[/QUOTE]Please scroll down and WTFF! Nobody will hand you the answer in a silver plate. With all the good work by members by writing lots of information on the board, if you don't even bother to scroll down and read, nobody will help you!

Enjoy!

AG

Yes Guys.

Why are you even talking about this? Do as is suggested below and don't comment any further

Guys,

I agree that we should kick Ads to the Class. Ads threads.

There's a little button; triangular icon with the exclaimation mark in the center, on the bottom left hand of the report that says "Report this post". Click it and report it as a Spam.

With enough people doing that, Jackson will kick that member out. Why waste space and time on a spam?

Enjoy!

AG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BeachGuy8; 1357511]I've read through the threads and could not find any info on areas, locales around the Pudong Airport.

I know I can go downtown to Shanghai, but are their any good recommendations out in Pudong?

Thanks in advance.

BG[/QUOTE]I know it is not easy to find the information in the forum related to a area, so here some "starter" information:

There are several ways to have fun in Pudong, but the airport is a little bit outside, so you have to go inside the center of Pudong.

First there are several sauna locations in Pudong. You can find some of them on this map:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/shanghai-sauna-map/[/url]

You will get full service sessions between 550 and 880 there.

There is also a girlsbar street in Pudong with 17 bars, where you can have fun and also take out most of the girls (they have less business there, so a lot of girls will go out for extra tip, but more expensive than a pickup in the Manhattan Club). You have to spend 500 to 1000 for the girls in the bar, than they will additional charge around 1000 to 2000 for overnight. But on the other side, this girls are not so "professional" than the vietnam girls in the Manhattan Club, so if you are lucky, you can get a very good girlfriend experience.

Details you can find here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-bars/chang-yi-lu-pu-dong/[/url]

Around the corner and between the bars in Chang Yi Lu you can also find 3 "massage shops". You will be able to get a massage with handjob there for around 200 to 300, and as I know for some extra tip of around 100 to 400 also BJ and full service should be available, but the additional service depends on the girl, you can be lucky, but also loose. (Attached you find a picture of Chang Yi Lu and the two massage shops)
There are also a lot of other massage shops all around pudong. So if you find sexy girls in short skirts and she operating time is 24 hours or very late in the night, you can be nearly shure you will get at least a handjob. There are also barbershops with girls in pudong, but I would avoid because of poor sanitary conditions there.

[QUOTE=BeachGuy8; 1357511]I've read through the threads and could not find any info on areas, locales around the Pudong Airport.

Staying a few nights there at the Radisson Pudong, then heading on to Beijing.

I know I can go downtown to Shanghai, but are their any good recommendations out in Pudong?

Thanks in advance.

BG[/QUOTE]Not long ago, I wrote a very specific report about how to go from the airport to Bodi and back again within a 3 hour window.

There isn't a Radisson near the Pudong airport but there is a Ramada. If you are at the Radisson Blu Century Park then you are short taxi rides from several places mentioned on the board: Bodi and Longhao being the closest though Longhao is a bit shabby plus all the BBS places between Long Yang Lu and Century Park. You could also do Siyuan but I would not attempt that during rush hours because an off peak taxi ride of 10-15 minutes could be an hour.

You really don't state what you are looking for either. BBS? Bar girls? Massage with extra? Full service sauna?

Good luck.

If you are actually at the Ramada next to the airport then you are basically screwed and a long way from anything that would not required being Chinese and speaking Chinese.

[QUOTE=BeachGuy8; 1357511]I've read through the threads and could not find any info on areas, locales around the Pudong Airport.

Staying a few nights there at the Radisson Pudong, then heading on to Beijing.

I know I can go downtown to Shanghai, but are their any good recommendations out in Pudong?

Thanks in advance.

BG[/QUOTE]

Fellas. Red alert Hong Qiao area until strong.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo;1358015]Fellas. Red alert Hong Qiao area until strong.[/QUOTE]What on earth are you talking about? Care to elaborate? Thank you!

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1358331]What on earth are you talking about? Care to elaborate? Thank you![/QUOTE]Some more activity from 110 in hong qiao area, so since 2 days be careful in bbs massage shop.

Around carreyfour couple closed, some work with lights switch off and girls in normal dress.

Careful fellas.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1358437]Some more activity from 110 in hong qiao area, so since 2 days be careful in bbs massage shop.

Around carreyfour couple closed, some work with lights switch off and girls in normal dress.

Careful fellas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning.

I am driving a car for the next two weeks and I wanted to visit around shanghai to practice our favorite sport. Any idea where to go around to find some cheap action?

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1358904]I am driving a car for the next two weeks and I wanted to visit around shanghai to practice our favorite sport. Any idea where to go around to find some cheap action?[/QUOTE]Really your challenge will be easy parking.

What are you looking for? BBS, sauna, massage with extras, or something else?

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1358904]I am driving a car for the next two weeks and I wanted to visit around shanghai to practice our favorite sport. Any idea where to go around to find some cheap action?[/QUOTE]Yes. Drive to the nearest Metro station, leave the car there and save you concentration and blood pressure for recreation activity!

I will be visiting Shanghai in next week and would like to have some fun.

Is there any place for group fun, like swinger clubs with access to singles or anything similar.

Or details of some MP's please

Looks like 110 control is gone down. Sexy dress again and lights switch on.)

Just some location stay closed.

So

Enjoy fellas.

[QUOTE=Ringer5;1359076]Yes. Drive to the nearest Metro station, leave the car there and save you concentration and blood pressure for recreation activity![/QUOTE]Well driving is not so bad here in shanghai compare to other cities, and when talking about "around shanghai", my meaning was more around "outside shanghai".

Any ideas where to go? I am a bit tired with the wuzhong / hongqiao or baoshan scene/

I am more looking for cheap action such as in BBS.

Thanks a lot for any help.

[QUOTE=Nisar; 1359176]I will be visiting Shanghai in next week and would like to have some fun.

Is there any place for group fun, like swinger clubs with access to singles or anything similar.

Or details of some MP's please[/QUOTE]Yes there is! Everywhere! Just read all the posts! Have fun and take care.

Bumboy:

Thank you for your report on great experience in Shanghai. Could you please.

Comment on how you find girls on QQ (which QQ group)? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Nisar; 1359176]I will be visiting Shanghai in next week and would like to have some fun.

Is there any place for group fun, like swinger clubs with access to singles or anything similar.

Or details of some MP's please[/QUOTE]For the MP's: RTFF or at least give an idea of where in this huge city you are going to be.

Swingers clubs? I think the short answer is No. I don't know of any

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1359472]For the MP's: RTFF or at least give an idea of where in this huge city you are going to be.

Swingers clubs? I think the short answer is No. I don't know of any[/QUOTE]Or pay the membership fee and use the search engine.

Lev

Does anyone know anything about the Chinese Chat App Momo

It is unfortunately in Chinese, so any help in translating the sign on screens or registration screens would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Haibao;1359347]Yes there is! Everywhere! Just read all the posts! Have fun and take care.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response.

I will be staying in a Hotel at Fuxi Street in Putuo District.

Google Chrome.

[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1359539]Does anyone know anything about the Chinese Chat App Momo

It is unfortunately in Chinese, so any help in translating the sign on screens or registration screens would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Lee; 1359423]Bumboy:

Could you please.

Comment on how you find girls on QQ? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are many ways to find QQ girls.

You can built up a QQ account and wait till they contact you. But this needs at least 2 or 3 month before you will be in the "data-base" they use to contact potential customers. With QQ you can also be logged in with different accounts at the same time, so you can built a new QQ-account only for that and leave you QQ-number in a lot of Chinese forums, than the girls (and pimps) will find you very fast.

Best way is you check some Chinese web pages, where you can find profiles of this girls. But for that, you should be able to understand some Chinese (or you use google online translation, but this service sucks for the special words the girls use sometimes (for example the service description and so on). Some of the pages (most of them have a structure like a forum) will not show contact details or sometimes pictures, before you get a paid member, and here you will have a big problem without a payment way in China. But there are still some free pages like for example:

[url]http://www.shlf.info/forumdisplay.php?fid=14[/url]

Here you can select the area you are, than you will find girls profiles with QQ numbers and details about her service. But don`t trust the pictures! Even they look very "handmade" and you will not find the same picture as a copy somewhere else, it is not sure that the girl will look like the pictures. And a lot of them are strongly photoshoped, so even it is real, the girl can be much more fat or old!

But you have to know, if you don`t speak Chinese, it will be very hard to visit the girl in her appartment. Because they are afraid about a raid, they will not give you the adress details when you chat with them. Normal way is, you will get the corner where you leave the taxi, than you have to call them where to go now. But on the phone without translation service and no Chinese skills, it will be complicate. Some will also come to your room, but a lot of the QQ-Accounts are hold by agents, than you definitly will not get the girl from the profile! And they will also try to charge much more, if you tell them you are a western guy!

If you want to check out the special QQ-Forum appreviations or need instruction how to install:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/qq-girls/[/url]

And easy way is to look on Weixin. When you have a QQ number you can login on weixin with this number. Install Weichat on your mobile phone and then run it. When you run "look around" you will find lot of qq girls.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1359699]There are many ways to find QQ girls.

You can built up a QQ account and wait till they contact you. But this needs at least 2 or 3 month before you will be in the "data-base" they use to contact potential customers. With QQ you can also be logged in with different accounts at the same time, so you can built a new QQ-account only for that and leave you QQ-number in a lot of Chinese forums, than the girls (and pimps) will find you very fast.

Best way is you check some Chinese web pages, where you can find profiles of this girls. But for that, you should be able to understand some Chinese (or you use google online translation, but this service sucks for the special words the girls use sometimes (for example the service description and so on). Some of the pages (most of them have a structure like a forum) will not show contact details or sometimes pictures, before you get a paid member, and here you will have a big problem without a payment way in China. But there are still some free pages like for example:

[url]http://www.shlf.info/forumdisplay.php?fid=14[/url]

Here you can select the area you are, than you will find girls profiles with QQ numbers and details about her service. But don`t trust the pictures! Even they look very "handmade" and you will not find the same picture as a copy somewhere else, it is not sure that the girl will look like the pictures. And a lot of them are strongly photoshoped, so even it is real, the girl can be much more fat or old!

But you have to know, if you don`t speak Chinese, it will be very hard to visit the girl in her appartment. Because they are afraid about a raid, they will not give you the adress details when you chat with them. Normal way is, you will get the corner where you leave the taxi, than you have to call them where to go now. But on the phone without translation service and no Chinese skills, it will be complicate. Some will also come to your room, but a lot of the QQ-Accounts are hold by agents, than you definitly will not get the girl from the profile! And they will also try to charge much more, if you tell them you are a western guy!

If you want to check out the special QQ-Forum appreviations or need instruction how to install:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/qq-girls/[/url][/QUOTE]

I suspect that many on the board already know this but for the sake of those who don't, I wanted to share tonight's experience. I have one night only at Pudong Airport and so I thought I would try to get to Bodi via MagLev and taxi. The first part went very well. The second part was very weird. I had the address in both English and in Chinese and tried several taxi drivers and none would take me there. My Chinese isn't very good but it seemed like they didn't recognize the location (even though the MagLev station is on Longyang Lu) and I could convince anyone to take me. One taxi driver, after telling me he didn't know the address, called someone on his cell phone, and then said that he would take me but that the fare would be 100 RMB. This seemed like a total scam to me since the MagLev from the airport was only 50 RMB. So if anyone can tell me what the expect cab fare is to Bodi Hotel from the Maglev station, I'd appreciate it for the next time.

Anyway, after that recurrent frustration, I ended up going to the Korean Massage place right across the street. The massage was quite good, including the hot stones, but there was no HE. Additionally, they charged an extra 100 RMB for the oil and the total damage for 100 minutes with tea was 508 RMB.

LD

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog; 1360499]I suspect that many on the board already know this but for the sake of those who don't, I wanted to share tonight's experience. I have one night only at Pudong Airport and so I thought I would try to get to Bodi via MagLev and taxi. The first part went very well. The second part was very weird. I had the address in both English and in Chinese and tried several taxi drivers and none would take me there. My Chinese isn't very good but it seemed like they didn't recognize the location (even though the MagLev station is on Longyang Lu) and I could convince anyone to take me. One taxi driver, after telling me he didn't know the address, called someone on his cell phone, and then said that he would take me but that the fare would be 100 RMB. This seemed like a total scam to me since the MagLev from the airport was only 50 RMB. So if anyone can tell me what the expect cab fare is to Bodi Hotel from the Maglev station, I'd appreciate it for the next time.

Anyway, after that recurrent frustration, I ended up going to the Korean Massage place right across the street. The massage was quite good, including the hot stones, but there was no HE. Additionally, they charged an extra 100 RMB for the oil and the total damage for 100 minutes with tea was 508 RMB.

LD[/QUOTE]Most taxi drivers here cannot comprehend an exact address, you will have substantially better luck telling them the cross streets or calling the hotel and have them explain directions to the driver. The distance from Longyang Road Station to Bodi is less than 5km, so you're right, RMB100 was definitely a rip-off (should have been approximately RMB20).

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog; 1360499]I suspect that many on the board already know this but for the sake of those who don't, I wanted to share tonight's experience. I have one night only at Pudong Airport and so I thought I would try to get to Bodi via MagLev and taxi. The first part went very well. The second part was very weird. I had the address in both English and in Chinese and tried several taxi drivers and none would take me there. My Chinese isn't very good but it seemed like they didn't recognize the location (even though the MagLev station is on Longyang Lu) and I could convince anyone to take me. One taxi driver, after telling me he didn't know the address, called someone on his cell phone, and then said that he would take me but that the fare would be 100 RMB. This seemed like a total scam to me since the MagLev from the airport was only 50 RMB. So if anyone can tell me what the expect cab fare is to Bodi Hotel from the Maglev station, I'd appreciate it for the next time.

Anyway, after that recurrent frustration, I ended up going to the Korean Massage place right across the street. The massage was quite good, including the hot stones, but there was no HE. Additionally, they charged an extra 100 RMB for the oil and the total damage for 100 minutes with tea was 508 RMB.

LD[/QUOTE]It's about a 5 minute ride and should cost almost nothing.

There are many scam taxis at the Maglev station. That's what the 100 rmb was about.

The reason the a holes told you they didn't know where it was is because it was such a small fare they didn't want to get out of line for it. I would amend my post by suggesting that you leave the station and walk to somewhere you can just flag a taxi on Longyuan St. If they are lost, point towards Puxi and say "that way" and then you'll see the big black shiny building with the red neon all over it on the right after about 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog; 1360499]I had the address in both English and in Chinese and tried several taxi drivers and none would take me there. My Chinese isn't very good but it seemed like they didn't recognize the location (even though the MagLev station is on Longyang Lu) and I could convince anyone to take me.

LD[/QUOTE]Next time you show the adress on your mobile phone to the taxi driver, works very well!

[QUOTE=Stegram; 1360565]It's about a 5 minute ride and should cost almost nothing.

There are many scam taxis at the Maglev station. That's what the 100 rmb was about.

The reason the a holes told you they didn't know where it was is because it was such a small fare they didn't want to get out of line for it. I would amend my post by suggesting that you leave the station and walk to somewhere you can just flag a taxi on Longyuan St. If they are lost, point towards Puxi and say "that way" and then you'll see the big black shiny building with the red neon all over it on the right after about 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Just like to add one point: Do Not take the Red or Dark blue or Dark red color taxis, most of these are privately owned and you will be ripped off. On top of that, most of these drivers have bad attitude and are very rude.

You are safer with the the Zhong (light blue) or Ba Shi / qiang sheng (light green or yellow) color ones.

Enjoy!

AG

The regular fare from Longyang Station to Bodi should never exceed 20 RMB even during rush hour.
And this is being generous, the minimal fare is like 14 RMB, I think is around 15~16RMB most of the time.

Wow! What great response by the board. I'm glad that I recognized the scan. I will now be fully prepared to enjoy on my next visit. Can't hardly wait. Thanks again for everyone's input.

LD

Gents,

Last week in Beijing went to an old and famous Wanjing based HE place, one of the little sure things remaining in the capital after the recent crack downs. When I mentioned to my long term service provider I was going to SH she asked me a favour. She wanted for herself and a friend find a place in SH to work in a similar set-up. Always the gentleman I promised but I have only very few actual phone numbers as I just go to these places and never make reservations.

So if anyone being in possession of phone numbers of HE massage places like described here frequently in the Jing An or Hongqiao area (the ones that charge like 258 RMB for a massage including the HE) I would appreciate a pm. Searching reveals many places but few if any phone numbers.

And of course if she comes to SH I will happily give back and share the info about the place she ends up. She is the best performer I know and that means something. Not anymore top in looks but superb skills and if the chemistry is right more is on the menu.

Thanks for sharing.

FA.

BTW before someone starts calling me lazy or being LE, check my credentials first.

Anybody seen Luyen lately, a well-endowed young Viet girl at Manhattans (sometimes Malones)? Haven't seen her around in about a month. Any news on her, or any stories to share?

Had a totally unpleasant exchange with a Shanghai gal on Date in Asia.

Her name is Daydream32. In her profile she talks about the "white trash " thats is now in China.

I suggested that there were professional people who werent white trash etc.

Her reply

"Chinese don't mess around west pigs mess around in China that's how they make themself lower and nasty good person believe in god they won't mess around in other country like pigs and rats do, that's gross make Chinese sick!

Sweet girl indeed.

I'm sure she might benefit from a large number of ISG fellows visiting her site and making forceful suggestions as to how wrong she might be.

Freebie. Sounds like that one has had some bad experiences with westerners. I don't know if encouraging the board to write her en masse will do much to change her mind. Probably just make her more militant in her views towards the west. I think I'd just "delete" her from your contact list and move on. My 2 RMB.

LD

[QUOTE=Sh Surprise;1361623]Anybody seen Luyen lately, a well-endowed young Viet girl at Manhattans (sometimes Malones)? Haven't seen her around in about a month. Any news on her, or any stories to share?[/QUOTE]This isn't her is it? I noticed she has not been about for a while now either

[QUOTE=John Huk;1362133]This isn't her is it?[/QUOTE]This isn't her, in the picture.

Luyen is about 5'2" (157cm) without heels. Nice natural C's on a thin curvy body. Cutie face, but not the one in the pic. Shorter hair, little more than shoulder length, and often worn up.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1361663]Had a totally unpleasant exchange with a Shanghai gal on Date in Asia.

Her name is Daydream32. In her profile she talks about the "white trash " thats is now in China.

I suggested that there were professional people who werent white trash etc.

Her reply

"Chinese don't mess around west pigs mess around in China that's how they make themself lower and nasty good person believe in god they won't mess around in other country like pigs and rats do, that's gross make Chinese sick!

Sweet girl indeed.

I'm sure she might benefit from a large number of ISG fellows visiting her site and making forceful suggestions as to how wrong she might be.[/QUOTE]I am sorry, but you are enlisting a working girl mongering board to convince her how wrong she is about foreigners in China? Wrong or not, I think you have an equally tenuous grasp on reality. Go back to posting on not-useful-to-anyone-here stories about your conquests of desperate old women and move on.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1361663]Had a totally unpleasant exchange with a Shanghai gal on Date in Asia.

Her name is Daydream32. In her profile she talks about the "white trash " thats is now in China.

I suggested that there were professional people who werent white trash etc.

Her reply

"Chinese don't mess around west pigs mess around in China that's how they make themself lower and nasty good person believe in god they won't mess around in other country like pigs and rats do, that's gross make Chinese sick!

Sweet girl indeed.

I'm sure she might benefit from a large number of ISG fellows visiting her site and making forceful suggestions as to how wrong she might be.[/QUOTE]Freebie,

I think this is her. Some one had the good sense to put a dog collar on her.

Recently I had a chance to call Lena from Shanghai Nightlife Guide over. I had a freebie lined up from M2 but it fell through last minute so thought I would try an incall.

Overall damage: 1000 (600 massage + 100 taxi + 300 to play with her topless)

No FS.

Massage: ok. Would rate it 6/10. Was about 60 minutes. Her nut and ass massage was quite good.

HJ: ok, not the best, but not the worse either.

Looks: cute face. 7/10, but body a bit bigger than I like. 5/10.

Repeat? Maybe, but will likely try something else.

It was expensive for an incall, but I figured I would give it a shot.

[QUOTE=Sh Surprise; 1362145]This isn't her, in the picture.

Luyen is about 5'2" (157cm) without heels. Nice natural C's on a thin curvy body. Cutie face, but not the one in the pic. Shorter hair, little more than shoulder length, and often worn up.[/QUOTE]Definatly not her then, thos one was about 4'10" without heels and natural DD's haha

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Hi Everyone,

First of all, my thanks to the contributors of the Forum. I've read all of this thread (and it's long!) and now I have alot of information (in theory) on how to move in shanghai.

However, I would need an advice from you experts because I'm not sure on which would be the best plan for my next trip. Having read all of the "flavours" that the city has to offer (barbershop, incall, meeting bars, etc.) I think that my preferred way would be to go in a nice (possibly clean and safe) sauna / massage with some beautiful ladies to spend 1 hour or so with a choosen one. Budget it's not a concern (this does not mean infinite money.) because my travels abroad for business are very very rare so in such occasions my goal is to have a good experience and not to spare some RMB / USD. I indulge in that maybe once or twice per year so, as said, I do prefer to go for a "sure shot" and not be disappointed. I don't want to sound too proud / rude, just saying thing as they are.

Now, the question. I will fly to shangai from spain and I will be there on dec 27, late evening (around 21:00). The day after I will leave shanghai to go mainland China for business for some days. So, I will probably sleep in one of the hotels near pudong airport. Is there any decent activity there?

My plan so far, reading the forums, would be to go to the bodi via maglev+taxi that evening. BUT maglev is not working at that hour, and I'm not even sure about the sauna (I didn't find any opening hours in your posts). So the only option is taxi to go and taxi to come back. I think it's quite long, isn't?

Another option would be the siYuan (or similar name, I don't remember) near the bund. As far as I understood, the bodi and siYuan are the two most "luxury" places. Maybe I'm wrong but ideally I'm used to think luxuryous = safe = clean = nice ladies. Just courious about your toughts on this.

So the thing is. Will I have to do this 1 hour or so taxi drive from the airport to the city and back the same evening (after a 13 hours flight.) to find something decent? Or there is any activity around the airport? And, if I do the taxi ride, will I find the saunas open around midnight? Or what?

Which place you think is the best one disregarding budget considerations? (however, I don't want to throw money out of the window without a reason).

I think I will have also an afternoon or something free on my way back, first days of 2013. Your advice?

Thank you very much for your understanding and for your precious advice. I do understand that posting questions as first post is not the best thing to do on a forum, but I do promise you a detailed report on what I will be able to get.

Cheers,

Edmnd

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1362458]Recently I had a chance to call Lena from Shanghai Nightlife Guide over. I had a freebie lined up from M2 but it fell through last minute so thought I would try an incall.

Overall damage: 1000 (600 massage + 100 taxi + 300 to play with her topless)

No FS.

Massage: ok. Would rate it 6/10. Was about 60 minutes. Her nut and ass massage was quite good.

HJ: ok, not the best, but not the worse either.

Looks: cute face. 7/10, but body a bit bigger than I like. 5/10.

Repeat? Maybe, but will likely try something else.

It was expensive for an incall, but I figured I would give it a shot.[/QUOTE]I think you talk about Lina, not Lena, right?
[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/lina/[/url]

Next time you should first make sure you will get the 90 minutes for that rate (that is definitly what she offer) , second for a tip of 300 you should have got her naked, only for topless not more than 100 tip necessary, I guess.

I just arrived at Shanghai, any major LE activity lately? I certainly hope Bodi and SiYuan aren't affected.

I tried to call up some of my old acquaintances from various saunas, but the numbers are either disconnected or they are no longer working in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1362458]Recently I had a chance to call Lena from Shanghai Nightlife Guide over. I had a freebie lined up from M2 but it fell through last minute so thought I would try an incall.

Overall damage: 1000 (600 massage + 100 taxi + 300 to play with her topless)

No FS.

Massage: ok. Would rate it 6/10. Was about 60 minutes. Her nut and ass massage was quite good.

HJ: ok, not the best, but not the worse either.

Looks: cute face. 7/10, but body a bit bigger than I like. 5/10.

Repeat? Maybe, but will likely try something else.

It was expensive for an incall, but I figured I would give it a shot.[/QUOTE]IMHO, too expensive! Way to expensive.

[QUOTE=Edmnd; 1363001]Hi Everyone,

First of all, my thanks to the contributors of the Forum. I've read all of this thread (and it's long!) and now I have alot of information (in theory) on how to move in shanghai.

However, I would need an advice from you experts because I'm not sure on which would be the best plan for my next trip. Having read all of the "flavours" that the city has to offer (barbershop, incall, meeting bars, etc.) I think that my preferred way would be to go in a nice (possibly clean and safe) sauna / massage with some beautiful ladies to spend 1 hour or so with a choosen one. Budget it's not a concern (this does not mean infinite money.) because my travels abroad for business are very very rare so in such occasions my goal is to have a good experience and not to spare some RMB / USD. I indulge in that maybe once or twice per year so, as said, I do prefer to go for a "sure shot" and not be disappointed. I don't want to sound too proud / rude, just saying thing as they are.

Now, the question. I will fly to shangai from spain and I will be there on dec 27, late evening (around 21:00). The day after I will leave shanghai to go mainland China for business for some days. So, I will probably sleep in one of the hotels near pudong airport. Is there any decent activity there?

My plan so far, reading the forums, would be to go to the bodi via maglev+taxi that evening. BUT maglev is not working at that hour, and I'm not even sure about the sauna (I didn't find any opening hours in your posts). So the only option is taxi to go and taxi to come back. I think it's quite long, isn't?

Another option would be the siYuan (or similar name, I don't remember) near the bund. As far as I understood, the bodi and siYuan are the two most "luxury" places. Maybe I'm wrong but ideally I'm used to think luxuryous = safe = clean = nice ladies. Just courious about your toughts on this.

So the thing is. Will I have to do this 1 hour or so taxi drive from the airport to the city and back the same evening (after a 13 hours flight.) to find something decent? Or there is any activity around the airport? And, if I do the taxi ride, will I find the saunas open around midnight? Or what?

Which place you think is the best one disregarding budget considerations? (however, I don't want to throw money out of the window without a reason).

I think I will have also an afternoon or something free on my way back, first days of 2013. Your advice?

Thank you very much for your understanding and for your precious advice. I do understand that posting questions as first post is not the best thing to do on a forum, but I do promise you a detailed report on what I will be able to get.

Cheers,

Edmnd[/QUOTE]Here's an idea. STAY at the Bodi Hotel. The maglev is running at 21:00 and if it's not running when you leave, take a cab to the airport for 120RMB. The hotel is actually quite modern and interesting. Then you can just walk out the front door, turn right and go 10 meters and into the next door.

I don't' know the hours but I'm sure the sauna is open past midnight.

Good Luck.

I believe, though I'm not quite sure, most saunas stop accepting customers between 1 AM and 2 AM. This is true for the PuXi ones. And at that hour, you don't get great choices, and the girls are tired, so service may be subpar. You didn't say when you would leave Shanghai (BTW technically Shanghai is part of mainland China. But if you can go to sauna around 1 pm or 2 pm, when they open, in my opinion that's the best time to go.

[QUOTE=Edmnd; 1363001]Hi Everyone,

First of all, my thanks to the contributors of the Forum. I've read all of this thread (and it's long!) and now I have alot of information (in theory) on how to move in shanghai.

However, I would need an advice from you experts because I'm not sure on which would be the best plan for my next trip. Having read all of the "flavours" that the city has to offer (barbershop, incall, meeting bars, etc.) I think that my preferred way would be to go in a nice (possibly clean and safe) sauna / massage with some beautiful ladies to spend 1 hour or so with a choosen one. Budget it's not a concern (this does not mean infinite money.) because my travels abroad for business are very very rare so in such occasions my goal is to have a good experience and not to spare some RMB / USD. I indulge in that maybe once or twice per year so, as said, I do prefer to go for a "sure shot" and not be disappointed. I don't want to sound too proud / rude, just saying thing as they are.

Now, the question. I will fly to shangai from spain and I will be there on dec 27, late evening (around 21:00). The day after I will leave shanghai to go mainland China for business for some days. So, I will probably sleep in one of the hotels near pudong airport. Is there any decent activity there?

My plan so far, reading the forums, would be to go to the bodi via maglev+taxi that evening. BUT maglev is not working at that hour, and I'm not even sure about the sauna (I didn't find any opening hours in your posts). So the only option is taxi to go and taxi to come back. I think it's quite long, isn't?

Another option would be the siYuan (or similar name, I don't remember) near the bund. As far as I understood, the bodi and siYuan are the two most "luxury" places. Maybe I'm wrong but ideally I'm used to think luxuryous = safe = clean = nice ladies. Just courious about your toughts on this.

So the thing is. Will I have to do this 1 hour or so taxi drive from the airport to the city and back the same evening (after a 13 hours flight.) to find something decent? Or there is any activity around the airport? And, if I do the taxi ride, will I find the saunas open around midnight? Or what?

Which place you think is the best one disregarding budget considerations? (however, I don't want to throw money out of the window without a reason).

I think I will have also an afternoon or something free on my way back, first days of 2013. Your advice?

Thank you very much for your understanding and for your precious advice. I do understand that posting questions as first post is not the best thing to do on a forum, but I do promise you a detailed report on what I will be able to get.

Cheers,

Edmnd[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know. I thought I would give shanghai nightlife a try, but it just wasn't worth it. I get better service for much less (sometimes free!) asking my regular massage girl to come over. But hey, learned a lesson.

[QUOTE=LaoWaiSha;1363169]IMHO, too expensive! Way to expensive.[/QUOTE]

In the classifieds section date go back to 10-12-12 you will find Beverlyjones' ad.

Contact her ahead of time and she will make reservation for you.

I know her since many years.

GregoryB.

[QUOTE=Edmnd; 1363001]Hi Everyone,

First of all, my thanks to the contributors of the Forum. I've read all of this thread (and it's long!) and now I have alot of information (in theory) on how to move in shanghai.

However, I would need an advice from you experts because I'm not sure on which would be the best plan for my next trip. Having read all of the "flavours" that the city has to offer (barbershop, incall, meeting bars, etc.) I think that my preferred way would be to go in a nice (possibly clean and safe) sauna / massage with some beautiful ladies to spend 1 hour or so with a choosen one. Budget it's not a concern (this does not mean infinite money.) because my travels abroad for business are very very rare so in such occasions my goal is to have a good experience and not to spare some RMB / USD. I indulge in that maybe once or twice per year so, as said, I do prefer to go for a "sure shot" and not be disappointed. I don't want to sound too proud / rude, just saying thing as they are.

Now, the question. I will fly to shangai from spain and I will be there on dec 27, late evening (around 21:00). The day after I will leave shanghai to go mainland China for business for some days. So, I will probably sleep in one of the hotels near pudong airport. Is there any decent activity there?

My plan so far, reading the forums, would be to go to the bodi via maglev+taxi that evening. BUT maglev is not working at that hour, and I'm not even sure about the sauna (I didn't find any opening hours in your posts). So the only option is taxi to go and taxi to come back. I think it's quite long, isn't?

Another option would be the siYuan (or similar name, I don't remember) near the bund. As far as I understood, the bodi and siYuan are the two most "luxury" places. Maybe I'm wrong but ideally I'm used to think luxuryous = safe = clean = nice ladies. Just courious about your toughts on this.

So the thing is. Will I have to do this 1 hour or so taxi drive from the airport to the city and back the same evening (after a 13 hours flight.) to find something decent? Or there is any activity around the airport? And, if I do the taxi ride, will I find the saunas open around midnight? Or what?

Which place you think is the best one disregarding budget considerations? (however, I don't want to throw money out of the window without a reason).

I think I will have also an afternoon or something free on my way back, first days of 2013. Your advice?

Thank you very much for your understanding and for your precious advice. I do understand that posting questions as first post is not the best thing to do on a forum, but I do promise you a detailed report on what I will be able to get.

Cheers,

Edmnd[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai;1363571]I believe, though I'm not quite sure, most saunas stop accepting customers between 1 AM and 2 AM. This is true for the PuXi ones. And at that hour, you don't get great choices, and the girls are tired, so service may be subpar. You didn't say when you would leave Shanghai (BTW technically Shanghai is part of mainland China. But if you can go to sauna around 1 pm or 2 pm, when they open, in my opinion that's the best time to go.[/QUOTE]I would suggest the best time is around 2:30PM.

Even though the saunas open at noon, the complete lineup doesn't show up for work until 2PM.

So if you could go to the saunas around 2. 2:30PM, you should be able to get the best selection with minimal waiting.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1362458]Recently I had a chance to call Lena from Shanghai Nightlife Guide over. I had a freebie lined up from M2 but it fell through last minute so thought I would try an incall.

Overall damage: 1000 (600 massage + 100 taxi + 300 to play with her topless)

No FS.

Massage: ok. Would rate it 6/10. Was about 60 minutes. Her nut and ass massage was quite good.

HJ: ok, not the best, but not the worse either.

Looks: cute face. 7/10, but body a bit bigger than I like. 5/10.

Repeat? Maybe, but will likely try something else.

It was expensive for an incall, but I figured I would give it a shot.[/QUOTE]Jesus, that is insane. You paid over USD100 for a HJ? You could get a cheaper one in the US! RTFF

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1363115]I think you talk about Lina, not Lena, right?

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/lina/[/url]

Next time you should first make sure you will get the 90 minutes for that rate (that is definitly what she offer) , second for a tip of 300 you should have got her naked, only for topless not more than 100 tip necessary, I guess.[/QUOTE]Shanghai Guide, you post some useful information, but your site is ripping off punters massively. For 6/700 short time, sex should be involved.

Art Shanghai, next time head out to a massage joint. I was in one offering sex for 300 today- or an excellent massage + HJ for 200. Sure it is more expensive to bring to your room, but what you paid was crazy. No offense intended.

Anyone can PM me for details on the above.

Just went to SiYuan today. Quite disappointed.

Entered around 5PM, waited 20 minutes to get a backrub.

Got upsold for a pedicure and additional back massage, by the time I got my watch back on it was already 6:25.

Proceeded to the lounge, waited for another 15 minutes.

The lineup had 20+ girls, but the quality of the lineup is subpar. At least it was a lot worse than my previous visit during August.

Picked 1 girl then asked her to recommend a friend, as expected, most of the time they just talk to each other.

It was interesting to hear they were talking about the foot massage and ear-picking service.

Apparently they think the foot massage girls and ear-pickers are making a much easier living.

The saving grace of the day was the ear-picker, I probably would have asked for a HJ from her too but I had to leave too soon.

Total damage: 1825 RMB

Next time I would probably go to Bodi instead.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1359658]Google Chrome.[/QUOTE]Check the Apple Store "Momo" is now also available in english Version. Have it on my I-Phone.

Fellas. Dudes. Band of bros.

I know I m out of topic,

But. I feel the Adm will forgive me.

Merry Christmas to everyone!

[QUOTE=German Man; 1354423]I stayed in Eton Hotel recently and decided to check the area nearby. Behind the hotel, on Changyi Road there are some massage parlours and placed that look like girlie bars. I was walking the other side of the road and the ladies would yell over the road whether I needed a Chinese girlfriend. I rather like those places that have no touts.

So I walked into a small quiet massage parlour on the end of Dongfang Road (when you walk from Pudong Avenue past Changyi Road, it is on the righthand side of Dongfang Road).

I was shown the menu and picked a full body massage for 300 RMB, and the girl said for a tip I a HJ was included. I was too tired for FS and too lazy to look further so I gave it a try. I speak some Chinese so I am sure we agreed on a tip of 50 RMB. After the HJ (which was ok) she told me she wanted a tip of 500. As a precaution, my wallet was empty save 400 RMB, no cards, no I'd, so after some haggling (and me reiterating that I had understood 50, not 500) and telling her to give me her phone number she didn't make a fuzz and I left without trouble.

So to make a short story shorter: If you are in need near Eton hotel, do avoid that place.[/QUOTE]I'll be staying at the Eton Hotel soon.

The above report makes me wary of trying the massage parlors just north of the hotel.

Has anybody else had recent experience? There are a couple that are east of the one mentioned in this report that are on Changyi Road.

Been living in Shanghai for a few months now and am not really happy with my whole Chinese experience. Basically the only places to go to get a good fun time are either massage places (BBS) which typically don't speak English and really don't have a fun atmosphere (all businesslike and usually don't allow kissing or anything but minimum service) or the bars like Manhattans where the overwhelming girls are not Chinese but Vietnamese and usually business-focused and WAY overpriced.

As with most things in China, the locals can get sex for around 400-600 RMB from those little barbershops (could call them sweatshops for the attitude of many). Then it is for 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB is typical asking price for the expat-focused stuff (and usually they're not trying to make you happy just try to get your money). As with most of my Chinese experience, everyone is trying to rip you off and not really let you enjoy your time out. It's different from Tijuana, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

As far as not going the whole professionals route, I've heard stories (bragging really) of the successes there but in all honesty (even most of the braggarts admit) there's not much there either. Basically the girls here are rich enough to not really need sex or they're from a background where they're trying to rip you off at every turn.

Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways. It's a weird, unhappy place to fuck.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted;1364039]Jesus, that is insane. You paid over USD100 for a HJ? You could get a cheaper one in the US! RTFF[/QUOTE]This is the new trend. Check some of the other forums. We now have guys dropping 160 USD for massage parlor girls in Thailand, guys tipping 75 USD to 25 USD bar girls in the Philippines, guys paying 100 USD for a night with a Cambodian prostitute and more! GREAT STUFF!

Might as well stay in the US of A for those rates.

Hey to each their own. Money not a problem for me, and that night was bloody cold in SH, my M2 plans fell through, and a girl I was planning to have come by couldn't make it. I could either go to a massage parlour and ask for takeout, sauna it, or try something new. Opted to try something new in the comfort of my home, slight regret, but thought you guys would want to hear about it.

It was my first time trying the girls on Shanghai nightlife. Will likely not try again. If this doesn't help you guys, sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1364648]This is the new trend. Check some of the other forums. We now have guys dropping 160 USD for massage parlor girls in Thailand, guys tipping 75 USD to 25 USD bar girls in the Philippines, guys paying 100 USD for a night with a Cambodian prostitute and more! GREAT STUFF!

Might as well stay in the US of A for those rates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ickywicky; 1364629]Been living in Shanghai for a few months now and am not really happy with my whole Chinese experience. Basically the only places to go to get a good fun time are either massage places (BBS) which typically don't speak English and really don't have a fun atmosphere (all businesslike and usually don't allow kissing or anything but minimum service) or the bars like Manhattans where the overwhelming girls are not Chinese but Vietnamese and usually business-focused and WAY overpriced.

As with most things in China, the locals can get sex for around 400-600 RMB from those little barbershops (could call them sweatshops for the attitude of many). Then it is for 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB is typical asking price for the expat-focused stuff (and usually they're not trying to make you happy just try to get your money). As with most of my Chinese experience, everyone is trying to rip you off and not really let you enjoy your time out. It's different from Tijuana, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

As far as not going the whole professionals route, I've heard stories (bragging really) of the successes there but in all honesty (even most of the braggarts admit) there's not much there either. Basically the girls here are rich enough to not really need sex or they're from a background where they're trying to rip you off at every turn.

Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.[/QUOTE]I've been in China for many years now. It takes time to adapt to their crazy (to us) systems. My Chinese is good enough to get local prices (or almost. 200 rmb). The girls can be fun but you need the language. They don't cheat only foreigners. Non Shanghaiese are prime targets too! It's a feudal system and if you have no friends or weak then they will take what they can.

On the brighter side. Some language skills mean 18 and 19 year old hotties since I take the time to build relationships with their mama / papa minders. The girls then need to perform or lose face!

A change of strategy I suggest for the P4P girls.

The others I agree are hard work. Look up Sa Jiao and this explains why! But for the mean time, at least, this is where the money is and so the game continues.

Dear Captain Nemo.

Admin for sure will be honored to have guys like you on board. I always like.

Your contributions and do not want to miss a single one.

Merry Christmas time to you as well!

Gregory.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1364450]Fellas. Dudes. Band of bros.

I know I m out of topic,

But. I feel the Adm will forgive me.

Merry Christmas to everyone![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ickywicky; 1364629]Been living in Shanghai for a few months now and am not really happy with my whole Chinese experience. Basically the only places to go to get a good fun time are either massage places (BBS) which typically don't speak English and really don't have a fun atmosphere (all businesslike and usually don't allow kissing or anything but minimum service) or the bars like Manhattans where the overwhelming girls are not Chinese but Vietnamese and usually business-focused and WAY overpriced.

As with most things in China, the locals can get sex for around 400-600 RMB from those little barbershops (could call them sweatshops for the attitude of many). Then it is for 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB is typical asking price for the expat-focused stuff (and usually they're not trying to make you happy just try to get your money). As with most of my Chinese experience, everyone is trying to rip you off and not really let you enjoy your time out. It's different from Tijuana, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

As far as not going the whole professionals route, I've heard stories (bragging really) of the successes there but in all honesty (even most of the braggarts admit) there's not much there either. Basically the girls here are rich enough to not really need sex or they're from a background where they're trying to rip you off at every turn.

Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways. It's a weird, unhappy place to fuck.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.[/QUOTE]Hang in there, yeah you have to play the game and negotiate hard for a decent price, which kind of ruins the mood, but eventually you will find places / girls that give good service.

Looks like we don't go the the same places. I only pay 200RMB (must be 150 for locals) for FS in a BBS which usually include BBJ. I must agree that at first the girls are not so friendly, but when you get to know them a bit, and become a regular customer, everything become better and easier. I must say I have a few regular girls in cheap BBS, they are way more beautiful than everywhere else, and crazy nice, everytime I go there I have a great moment, plus you usually have a great line.

Of course, some time, the service is poor but no more than in any other countries imo.

About Manhattan I don't think that the WG girls are too overwhelming, just let them know your rules at first and everything gets easier. I never pay more than 1000RMB for long terme service and I usually pick up my girls before the rush of 11pm.

About Chinese scene, yeah sure it is different than in any other countries but I must say so far, to me it is the best place to monger. I have been in many differents countries, and shanghai is the place I prefer above all. Yeah sometimes, they try to ask you 500rmb instead of 200rmb, I would say that is part of the game, even if I agree that it is fucking annoying. Once you know the price and the rules. Nothing wrong can happen. Shanghai scene is huge from bbs, freebies, viets, sauna to the many different king of massage places, you can smell sex at every corner in this city and that is not so expensive. When I see the quality of Chinese girls, age, bodies, service, compared to other countries I don't think it worse than every where else. In Shanghai it is not as easy as Bangkok, and you have to get to know the scene a bit before really enjoying what this city has to offer. But once you get to know the place well, sex and joy is everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

In this activity, everything is related to money. Whereever you are, the main goal is to make money. Maybe Chinese girls show it more than other places but they sure are not more greedy.

I am in Cambodia right now, and here more than in China, people try to steal your money and try to take advangtage of me. This is a crappy place, and I miss Shanghai where it is Safe and sure. In Thailand, you can get shitty girls too. I still remember this stunning ***** from NEP who didn't want to provide sex pretending she was drunk, but not enough to still think about getting the money. What about the Bangkok saunas offering girls to farang only when they pay a lot more than the locals?

What about shitty land of smile my ass indonesia? Do they not try to steal money over there? I am not sure about it.

When you come back to China, what about I show you around and let's see if I can make you change your mind, ok?

[QUOTE=Ickywicky; 1364629]Been living in Shanghai for a few months now and am not really happy with my whole Chinese experience. Basically the only places to go to get a good fun time are either massage places (BBS) which typically don't speak English and really don't have a fun atmosphere (all businesslike and usually don't allow kissing or anything but minimum service) or the bars like Manhattans where the overwhelming girls are not Chinese but Vietnamese and usually business-focused and WAY overpriced.

As with most things in China, the locals can get sex for around 400-600 RMB from those little barbershops (could call them sweatshops for the attitude of many). Then it is for 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB is typical asking price for the expat-focused stuff (and usually they're not trying to make you happy just try to get your money). As with most of my Chinese experience, everyone is trying to rip you off and not really let you enjoy your time out. It's different from Tijuana, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

As far as not going the whole professionals route, I've heard stories (bragging really) of the successes there but in all honesty (even most of the braggarts admit) there's not much there either. Basically the girls here are rich enough to not really need sex or they're from a background where they're trying to rip you off at every turn.

Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways. It's a weird, unhappy place to fuck.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1364843]Looks like we don't go the the same places. I only pay 200RMB (must be 150 for locals) for FS in a BBS which usually include BBJ. I must agree that at first the girls are not so friendly, but when you get to know them a bit, and become a regular customer, everything become better and easier. I must say I have a few regular girls in cheap BBS, they are way more beautiful than everywhere else, and crazy nice, everytime I go there I have a great moment, plus you usually have a great line.

Of course, some time, the service is poor but no more than in any other countries imo.

About Manhattan I don't think that the WG girls are too overwhelming, just let them know your rules at first and everything gets easier. I never pay more than 1000RMB for long terme service and I usually pick up my girls before the rush of 11pm.

About Chinese scene, yeah sure it is different than in any other countries but I must say so far, to me it is the best place to monger. I have been in many differents countries, and shanghai is the place I prefer above all. Yeah sometimes, they try to ask you 500rmb instead of 200rmb, I would say that is part of the game, even if I agree that it is fucking annoying. Once you know the price and the rules. Nothing wrong can happen. Shanghai scene is huge from bbs, freebies, viets, sauna to the many different king of massage places, you can smell sex at every corner in this city and that is not so expensive. When I see the quality of Chinese girls, age, bodies, service, compared to other countries I don't think it worse than every where else. In Shanghai it is not as easy as Bangkok, and you have to get to know the scene a bit before really enjoying what this city has to offer. But once you get to know the place well, sex and joy is everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

In this activity, everything is related to money. Whereever you are, the main goal is to make money. Maybe Chinese girls show it more than other places but they sure are not more greedy.

I am in Cambodia right now, and here more than in China, people try to steal your money and try to take advangtage of me. This is a crappy place, and I miss Shanghai where it is Safe and sure. In Thailand, you can get shitty girls too. I still remember this stunning * from NEP who didn't want to provide sex pretending she was drunk, but not enough to still think about getting the money. What about the Bangkok saunas offering girls to farang only when they pay a lot more than the locals?

What about shitty land of smile my ass indonesia? Do they not try to steal money over there? I am not sure about it.

When you come back to China, what about I show you around and let's see if I can make you change your mind, ok?[/QUOTE]Bravo! Well said!

Lev

Thank you for the very friendly offers. I'd be happy to take up anyone on any Shanghai trips. I'm stuck here for at least another six months. If anyone does take me out and introduce me to the hot spots, I'll be glad to buy 'them a couple of beers. Just got to admit I don't speak Chinese and don't really enjoy bargaining.

[QUOTE=Ickywicky;1365676]Thank you for the very friendly offers. I'd be happy to take up anyone on any Shanghai trips. I'm stuck here for at least another six months. If anyone does take me out and introduce me to the hot spots, I'll be glad to buy 'them a couple of beers. Just got to admit I don't speak Chinese and don't really enjoy bargaining.[/QUOTE]If you like to visit some sauna locations, I can bring you together with one of our western guides when he check out locations. If you like, just send a private message.

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven

[QUOTE=Ickywicky; 1364629]Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways. It's a weird, unhappy place to fuck.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.[/QUOTE]Yea, the 'laowai tax' and general money, money, money attitude does wear on you after a while, but (at least for me) finding the occasional gem still makes the place worthwhile. I found a pretty good MP lady I've been banging regularly for 3 years now.

And, with the focus on money, it seems there's a lot less drama than other places (Phils, Thailand). Don't give up!

Visited Bodi yesterday around 3:30PM.

Apparently Saturday afternoon between 3-4 is NOT a good time to go to Bodi.

The locker room attendant suggested I should arrive around 1PM and should be presented with a full lineup at 1:30.

Oh well, next time I should try to go earlier.

Back to this visit. OK, the locker room attendant suggested I should spend minimal time in the spa area because they have a shortage of rooms and rushed me to change. After I complied and changed into their bath robes I was led directly to an empty fishbowl. There were only three ladies standing beside the elevator to be picked. Disappointed, I picked the best out of the bunch. 561. Slender build, not very tall, nice looking tits (but not large) , great voice, from Hunan. Her breasts were soft and supple.

She suggested her friend. 520 to join us. 520 looks a lot better with her fake glasses on, but the appearance without the glasses is ho-hum, and she really doesn't have a great body to wax poetic about. But what she lacks externally, she makes up with skill. She gave me one of the best cat baths I experienced in Shanghai. Great suction on my back and legs. She also has good command of her tongue. 520 claimed she had job-training in Japan, though I am a bit skeptical about that claim.

There was also some erotic interaction between the duo, and the level of cooperation and enthusiasm is one of the better shuangfei experiences I had.

After the usual ordeal, I went to the lounge looking for an ear-picking lady but none were available.

But one of the foot massage girls that I met before came into my room so I let her do her best, and she proceeded directly to the prostate massage. I was time-pressed due to a 6PM dinner appointment, so I had to let her go without finishing the foot massage.

I told her I was worried about the snow and I might not be able to get a cab to attend my dinner function on time. She used the in-room phone to make a call upstairs and told them to reserve a taxi for me as I walked out of the resting area.

As usual, it is not easy to get a cab leaving Bodi, it is even worse in this hour.

So I still waited 15 minutes in the lobby after payment before the doorman was able to find me a cab.

Total damage was close to 2000, I only wish I had more time to enjoy the service, and I should go earlier next time and hopefully I would find a better lineup.

[QUOTE=Ickywicky; 1364629]Been living in Shanghai for a few months now and am not really happy with my whole Chinese experience. Basically the only places to go to get a good fun time are either massage places (BBS) which typically don't speak English and really don't have a fun atmosphere (all businesslike and usually don't allow kissing or anything but minimum service) or the bars like Manhattans where the overwhelming girls are not Chinese but Vietnamese and usually business-focused and WAY overpriced.

As with most things in China, the locals can get sex for around 400-600 RMB from those little barbershops (could call them sweatshops for the attitude of many). Then it is for 1000 RMB to 1500 RMB is typical asking price for the expat-focused stuff (and usually they're not trying to make you happy just try to get your money). As with most of my Chinese experience, everyone is trying to rip you off and not really let you enjoy your time out. It's different from Tijuana, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.

As far as not going the whole professionals route, I've heard stories (bragging really) of the successes there but in all honesty (even most of the braggarts admit) there's not much there either. Basically the girls here are rich enough to not really need sex or they're from a background where they're trying to rip you off at every turn.

Overall, I'd say it's not fun in China unless you reduce everything to a business equation and then get your jollies from basically having beaten the system (aka "Most people pay 1000 I only paid 500!") until you realize that locals don't even pay half of what you pay anyways. It's a weird, unhappy place to fuck.

Then again if anyone does have any suggestions feel free to shoot me some. I know I'm getting the hell out of Shanghai to go to Philippines come my next vacation and I've basically decided to become a monk until I get away from these money-greedy bitches. I don't mind giving my money away but I hate the idea that people are trying to take advantage of me and steal from me at every turn. Which is what China is all about for foreigners.[/QUOTE]For bbs the locals pay 150. The foreigners pay 200, or 300 in some cases. Those prices are all-in prices. But you are required to know the language and understand how to talk (not just the language) to Chinese girls. For example I recently took an ABC with perfect Chinese to a BBS and told him don't pay more than 300. I took him to a place I go all the time. The 300 is because the girls BBBJ as well as FS. We both go in, come out, and discuss. I paid 300, got two pops in 30 minutes. His girl got 600 out of him for 1 pop. Ridiculous. Experience at those places counts for everything.

Best place to go if you don't have control of the language and the behaviors is a sauna. They don't negotiate the prices. The price is just the price. They're the best bang for the buck anyway. Even if you know how to get the 200 RMB FS, it's not even close to the amenities of the sauna or the time on the clock per RMB. Look up (use the search) SiYuan, Bodi or 999. The price lately is 880.

For the record, your prices in Shanghai are.

Quality sauna (they're cheap ones, too) : 880.

BBS: 200-300 (go to an area with several, if they say 400, just chuckle and start to walk).

Manhattan / Judy's: 800 (one hour)

Qq apartment girls: 300 (or 800 for all night).

Bar girl take home (after 5am) : 1000.

All of those prices can be made lower (even the sauna if you build a relationship with management) , but those are "shut up and lets go" price.

The manhattan / judy price is only good if you go before 11 or after 3am. In the middle is prime time and they know they can get a tourist for 2000, but they'll usually still go with you for 1000.

Especially our Shanghai buddy "ShanghaiNemo" deserves those good wishes.

Since he is a real Gentleman and always supportive.

But all of our friends here share the same hope of a good and happy New Near.

With mutual support between all of us.

All the best, good health, and succes in whatever you do.

GregoryB

Stayed at the Swissotel and walked to Manhattan a couple of weeks ago. This was on a Saturday night. I was there from midnight until about 1:30pm.

90% Vietnamese girls, place was fairly packed.

Ranged for 4-8.

Asking prices was 1500. 2500.

I picked out one sexy girl, but she was not willing to drop her price. I didn't want to hang out too late, so I just went to another. That is the only good thing about Manhattan, if you don't work out a deal with one girl, just go to the next.

Agreed on 700 for 2 shots.

Was a little disappointed in performance when back to the room, but that was expected with my experience with Viet girls.

Will be in Shangahai in two weeks. Can somebody tell me where I can still find Soapy and Nuru massage? Things change so fast and last time the places where I used to go where closed. A lot of information which can be found in the internet is outdated. Who as the latest information, please let me know, thanks so much.

[QUOTE=Hot Lover;1368261]Will be in Shangahai in two weeks. Can somebody tell me where I can still find Soapy and Nuru massage? Things change so fast and last time the places where I used to go where closed. A lot of information which can be found in the internet is outdated. Who as the latest information, please let me know, thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Here in this threat, if you rtff carefully, or if you use the search function.

Lev

[QUOTE=Hot Lover;1368261]Will be in Shangahai in two weeks. Can somebody tell me where I can still find Soapy and Nuru massage? Things change so fast and last time the places where I used to go where closed. A lot of information which can be found in the internet is outdated. Who as the latest information, please let me know, thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Siyuan, bodi or 999

[QUOTE=Hot Lover;1368261]Will be in Shangahai in two weeks. Can somebody tell me where I can still find Soapy and Nuru massage? Things change so fast and last time the places where I used to go where closed. A lot of information which can be found in the internet is outdated. Who as the latest information, please let me know, thanks so much.[/QUOTE]As long as I know, also Hai Lang (New Wave) will still offer a nuru massage. Definitly you can get it in the Jun Hao Club (I got one 4 weeks ago there). And they also have a funny selection area for the girls. They don`t provide a fishbowl, but a stage, where the girls try to do a "catwalk". Very funny!

Adress you can find here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

hi friends.

finally my first post. yay.

i have recently relocated to shanghai. fulltime. i have been visiting china on and off since 1997 and have seen and done some amazing things with beautiful chinese girls, karaoke queens, bbs

cheapies and sometimes freebies (though i hate hard work for sometimes no reward. my favourite scene is however saunas. i love the choice of the fishbowl and the relaxing hot pool beforehand.

i'm living at gubei so i have been checking out the local scene. plenty of massage joints rep001tered around the place. oil massage average rmb 220 with hj plus titties tip straight to girl rmb100 to rmb 200 depending on girl and your negotiating skills. i speak a little putonghua so i can usually wrangle and ok deal.

got time the other day to go to bi li hu sauna. its next to the 7-11 off hongbaoshi lu. just up from the new takashimaya? near yili road metro exit.

clean surroundings and well signposted. usual disrobing shower, soaked in hotpool. i opted for a skin scrub as well as a felt a little decadent on my return to the middle kingdom.

next small room with reclining seats. offered toe nail cut etc. declined. then mama ushered in a line up of 10 mei mei's. on average 7-8's though i have been out of the scene for a while. didn't go for the youngest or cutest. they wouldn't smile and look me in the eye so i went for one around 30 years that smiled and looked excited.

number 810.

looks 7.

short

tits. medium and firm.

shaved. no.

technique. 8.

usual cat bath, licked my bum, uncovered hj, condom on then into action. surprisingly tight. cowgirl, doggie, missionary. good cum then massge.

she has a scar on her belly. told me she is from guangdong and has a baby.

damage rmb780 plus rmb80 for salt scrub.

will keep exploring my new hood and posting. any advice on gubei appreciated.

Haven't posted in ages, but thought I'd contribute to the mongering discussion.

I personally like oil massage places, as I like to take my time, get comfortable, and enjoy the process, as opposed to the "wam bam that's it?" style of BBS's. My favorite area is CaoBao lu, LongMinglu as it has a great selection of joints run mostly by Fujian people (tend to be more, ahem, liberal and professional than Wenzhou bosses) and has an excellent selection.

Funny thing with this area is that you never can tell. Just off the corner of the fairly busy intersection, there is one with lights blinking and tacky gold shining so bright it makes no secret of its presence. Went there three times, and service was 200 flat each time, with around 45 minutes of action. Now the action seems to vary widely according to the girl.

First time I went, had a spinner from Guangdong, with the loveliest accent. Absolutely clueless in terms of massage ability, and was very frugal with the oil. Got nice and comfy on my back and made it a point to rock herself along my thighs just enough to let me know she wasn't wearing panties. 10 minutes goes straight to little brother, and then it's the standard "hao the" and removes her top then everything else. No prompting or anything, proceeds to lick down and gives an excellent blowjob. Extra points for not spitting. Allowed all the roaming in the world and seemed to really get into it, until BOOM. She squirt in two glorious volleys. Afterward, exchanged weixin and qq numbers and even enquired if I'd had lunch every few days which I found to be a nice touch.

Went back a week later, tried a different one. Busty with a cute face and curves just made from the Shanghai winter. No BJ and very mechanical service, and any roaming of the hands was met with that horribly fake moaning that kills the mood. On the plus side, her massage was excellent, and made good use of her tits till the happy ended landed just below her chin. Nice but a bit too mechanical.

Around the corner from this place, just tucked in was another one, and simply couldn't help trying that one a couple of weeks later. In the window, saw a petite stunner that was just my type. I go in, she takes me to a small room, very cozy, but she's distracted and obviously arguing with the mamasan. Mamasan tells her to stop "because there's a customer" and she paints a smile, tells me 238 for the "xiong tui" (breast massage) or 400 for FS. I tell her I'd be back in 20 minutes. I was a bit unsure as there was definite tension between her and mamasan, so might as well continue browsing. It just started snowing, and considering she's from Yunnan (I love the Yunnan ones for some reason) , I decided not to make her day worse and come back.

Her massage was not so good, though had a killer body, and loved to talk. My hands were pretty busy, and soon enough I was loving the foreplay almost as much as she was. Gorgeous, shaved cat with a tattoo just above and had her trembling and gripping the bedsheets."yao bu yao zuo ai?" then "300, wo qu na tao zi". Hmm. Hard to resist. 62 extra for an upgrade, and soon enough she was giving a fantastic BJ, then hopped on top. She was doing me more than I was doing her. Aggressive, hungry, and really into it. Afterwards, she was just lying there, telling me how annoyed she is with Shanghai, her ex husband, the mamasan, and winter. Phone rings, she hands up, then says we have enough time for a smoke, and if I had lunch. Thought back to a Chris Rock routine about people having lunch in strip clubs, but hey, couldn't resist, so had lunch with her and another girl. Beef was slightly fatty, and soup was watery, but loved the vegetables and company.

This area, Caobao lu, Longming lu, is excellent if you're into exploring and can speak some Chinese. It's mostly MP's with extras, though there are BBS's but I haven't really checked them out as the first thing they seem to do is put up 3 fingers and scream "helloo", which sends me limping off. The key, as always, is to have a good attitude and treat the girls with respect and give them a story to tell.

Happy mongering all and get it while the new year's run is good

[QUOTE=Contex01; 1369617]Haven't posted in ages, but thought I'd contribute to the mongering discussion.

I personally like oil massage places, as I like to take my time, get comfortable, and enjoy the process, as opposed to the "wam bam that's it?" style of BBS's. My favorite area is CaoBao lu, LongMinglu as it has a great selection of joints run mostly by Fujian people (tend to be more, ahem, liberal and professional than Wenzhou bosses) and has an excellent selection.

Funny thing with this area is that you never can tell. Just off the corner of the fairly busy intersection, there is one with lights blinking and tacky gold shining so bright it makes no secret of its presence. Went there three times, and service was 200 flat each time, with around 45 minutes of action. Now the action seems to vary widely according to the girl.

First time I went, had a spinner from Guangdong, with the loveliest accent. Absolutely clueless in terms of massage ability, and was very frugal with the oil. Got nice and comfy on my back and made it a point to rock herself along my thighs just enough to let me know she wasn't wearing panties. 10 minutes goes straight to little brother, and then it's the standard "hao the" and removes her top then everything else. No prompting or anything, proceeds to lick down and gives an excellent blowjob. Extra points for not spitting. Allowed all the roaming in the world and seemed to really get into it, until BOOM. She squirt in two glorious volleys. Afterward, exchanged weixin and qq numbers and even enquired if I'd had lunch every few days which I found to be a nice touch.

Went back a week later, tried a different one. Busty with a cute face and curves just made from the Shanghai winter. No BJ and very mechanical service, and any roaming of the hands was met with that horribly fake moaning that kills the mood. On the plus side, her massage was excellent, and made good use of her tits till the happy ended landed just below her chin. Nice but a bit too mechanical.

Around the corner from this place, just tucked in was another one, and simply couldn't help trying that one a couple of weeks later. In the window, saw a petite stunner that was just my type. I go in, she takes me to a small room, very cozy, but she's distracted and obviously arguing with the mamasan. Mamasan tells her to stop "because there's a customer" and she paints a smile, tells me 238 for the "xiong tui" (breast massage) or 400 for FS. I tell her I'd be back in 20 minutes. I was a bit unsure as there was definite tension between her and mamasan, so might as well continue browsing. It just started snowing, and considering she's from Yunnan (I love the Yunnan ones for some reason) , I decided not to make her day worse and come back.

Her massage was not so good, though had a killer body, and loved to talk. My hands were pretty busy, and soon enough I was loving the foreplay almost as much as she was. Gorgeous, shaved cat with a tattoo just above and had her trembling and gripping the bedsheets."yao bu yao zuo ai?" then "300, wo qu na tao zi". Hmm. Hard to resist. 62 extra for an upgrade, and soon enough she was giving a fantastic BJ, then hopped on top. She was doing me more than I was doing her. Aggressive, hungry, and really into it. Afterwards, she was just lying there, telling me how annoyed she is with Shanghai, her ex husband, the mamasan, and winter. Phone rings, she hands up, then says we have enough time for a smoke, and if I had lunch. Thought back to a Chris Rock routine about people having lunch in strip clubs, but hey, couldn't resist, so had lunch with her and another girl. Beef was slightly fatty, and soup was watery, but loved the vegetables and company.

This area, Caobao lu, Longming lu, is excellent if you're into exploring and can speak some Chinese. It's mostly MP's with extras, though there are BBS's but I haven't really checked them out as the first thing they seem to do is put up 3 fingers and scream "helloo", which sends me limping off. The key, as always, is to have a good attitude and treat the girls with respect and give them a story to tell.

Happy mongering all and get it while the new year's run is good[/QUOTE]This is a great report. Thanks for sharing. Where are the Caobao Lu and Longming Lu streets located? Is there convenient public transportation, or are cabs needed (I've had my problem with taxis as some of my earlier posts have indicated).

Thanks,

LD

[QUOTE=Fitz1971; 1368210]Stayed at the Swissotel and walked to Manhattan a couple of weeks ago. This was on a Saturday night. I was there from midnight until about 1:30pm.

90% Vietnamese girls, place was fairly packed.

Ranged for 4-8.

Asking prices was 1500. 2500.

I picked out one sexy girl, but she was not willing to drop her price. I didn't want to hang out too late, so I just went to another. That is the only good thing about Manhattan, if you don't work out a deal with one girl, just go to the next.

Agreed on 700 for 2 shots.

Was a little disappointed in performance when back to the room, but that was expected with my experience with Viet girls.[/QUOTE]The philipine girls are nice. After some time of chatting and dancing I took one of them home for 1000. Very wet and said she came 4 times, I did come 3 times. 2 daiys later repeat. She was even hornier this time. I only had once luck with a viet in Manhattan the philipine girls very 100 % hits.

Does anyone know if 999 gives red rope service?

I haven't had this wonderful service since shanghai hotel (block behind jing'an hilton) back in 2007.

I have a bro coming to town from Shenzhen that I want to show him red rope but not sure where (or if its still offered) in Shanghai.

Any help, thanks.

You can PM me if thats easier.

Jayson420

[QUOTE=Jayson420;1371092]Does anyone know if 999 gives red rope service? Jayson420[/QUOTE]For those not familair about the red rope service here's a picture that, as Rod Stewart sang, tells the story.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1371226]For those not familair about the red rope service here's a picture that, as Rod Stewart sang, tells the story.[/QUOTE]As I stated years before. 45Kilos resting on top of a mouth full of razor sharp teeth hanging over your reason for living by a piece of material and a girl who "knows how to do this" but has probably never been formally trained. NO THANK YOU. I believe this is an embarrassing and possibly life ruining accident and trip to the hospital waiting to happen. I like taking risks with big upsides and limited downsides. Red Rope seems to be just the opposite.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1371226]For those not familair about the red rope service here's a picture that, as Rod Stewart sang, tells the story.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing this awesome picture back (seen it before) , it corresponds with my personal experience. Two little questions :

- how to find this using Google,"red rope." does not yield it;

- who took this picture and where / when, I mean the guy is 'undergoing' his treatment in a (I guess) sauna, so the picture must be taken secretly since saunas do not allow pictures. Or this is a photoshop.

In anycase, thanks for sharing!

[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1371330]Thanks for bringing this awesome picture back (seen it before) , it corresponds with my personal experience. Two little questions :

- how to find this using Google,"red rope." does not yield it;

- who took this picture and where / when, I mean the guy is 'undergoing' his treatment in a (I guess) sauna, so the picture must be taken secretly since saunas do not allow pictures. Or this is a photoshop.

In anycase, thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]If I well remember I downloaded the picture from here a few years ago. It has been publsied a few times as the "red rope" subject comes uo from time to time. Worth keeping it and also show to friends willing to know about red rope or anything special.

I think it is a legitimate photo (no photoshop) and I am also sure that from time to time some pictures slip out of control and are being taken in saunas.

Google "red rope massage" and you will find plenty of referrals

If you google only "red rope" you will get real rope referrals, LOL

[QUOTE=Stegram;1371301]As I stated years before. 45Kilos resting on top of a mouth full of razor sharp teeth hanging over your reason for living by a piece of material and a girl who "knows how to do this" but has probably never been formally trained. NO THANK YOU. I believe this is an embarrassing and possibly life ruining accident and trip to the hospital waiting to happen. I like taking risks with big upsides and limited downsides. Red Rope seems to be just the opposite.[/QUOTE]Nobody is forcing you to take such a service, do not worry.

Also sex can be dangerous, mind you. Blood pressure goes up and a stroke can take you away from this board, then RIP

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1371346]Nobody is forcing you to take such a service, do not worry.

Also sex can be dangerous, mind you. Blood pressure goes up and a stroke can take you away from this board, then RIP[/QUOTE]Driving a car can be dangerous, too. That doesn't mean I want to remove the brakes for an extra thrill.

I was just throwing out something that anyone that wants to try this should consider. The reviews I've read about it have suggested that the sensation isn't really all that. That said, if this floats someone's boat, more power to 'them. I wouldn't cliff dive either but that doesn't mean it's not for anyone if that's what they want to do.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1371344]If I well remember I downloaded the picture from here a few years ago. It has been publsied a few times as the "red rope" subject comes uo from time to time. Worth keeping it and also show to friends willing to know about red rope or anything special.

I think it is a legitimate photo (no photoshop) and I am also sure that from time to time some pictures slip out of control and are being taken in saunas.

Google "red rope massage" and you will find plenty of referrals

If you google only "red rope" you will get real rope referrals, LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. Tried Google a few times and it seems that on the whole internets, there are only two pictures of the same girl. One of low image quality (obviously taken from a mirror view) , showing her face though. Just wonder how the guy took this photo lying down and that the girl accepted / agreed to this. She (though anonymous) has become a fable by now, seen by millions of punters worldwide hungry for a red rope visual! Just wished I could find some more visuals!

Hi to all. I live in SH with my wonderful girlfriend. So no possible to bring girls to my apart! .

I'd like to find some places (no saunas) where to have fast HJ or FS, just to spend not so long time during the day.

Do you have some BBS or QQ apartments to reccomend, better if in Puxi?

Thanks

Emzchi, there are a couple of massage places across the street from JinAn Temple. One near the Paramount and the other a block up on same side of street. Had a massage there with a gorgeous gal ended with HJ. I think about 200 RMB +tip.

MD40.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1372314]Hi to all. I live in SH with my wonderful girlfriend. So no possible to bring girls to my apart! .

I'd like to find some places (no saunas) where to have fast HJ or FS, just to spend not so long time during the day.

Do you have some BBS or QQ apartments to reccomend, better if in Puxi?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson420; 1371092]Does anyone know if 999 gives red rope service?[/quote]I was given a tip that Golden 18 Sauna and Hai Lang Sauna offer this service.

[QUOTE=Jayson420; 1371092]Does anyone know if 999 gives red rope service?

I haven't had this wonderful service since shanghai hotel (block behind jing'an hilton) back in 2007.

I have a bro coming to town from Shenzhen that I want to show him red rope but not sure where (or if its still offered) in Shanghai.

Any help, thanks.

You can PM me if thats easier.

Jayson420[/QUOTE]I had this service surely in shangahi hotel and in golden 18. I never scared if the girl folling down. I was scared one time if (when she roll) she had a move unusual with teethes. After my brother like a drill bit.

Hey there are a ton of places in Puxi and its very big. Give more accurate location?

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1372314]Hi to all. I live in SH with my wonderful girlfriend. So no possible to bring girls to my apart! .

I'd like to find some places (no saunas) where to have fast HJ or FS, just to spend not so long time during the day.

Do you have some BBS or QQ apartments to reccomend, better if in Puxi?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I am planning to go to Shanghai and looking for some info. I noticed a lot of ads at chinadaily. Com for independents, and have few questions if someone has experience. Are they reliable with real pics? Do they provide full service? What are the typical rates? Any issues with an out-call at one of the Shanghai downtown hotels?

Thanks

Hehehe hi dudes, fellas. Bob.

Soon news from hong qiao area.

New location for be relaxed.

This evening start the mission. '

And soon new situations and new photos

[QUOTE=Vvgrp; 1372647]I am planning to go to Shanghai and looking for some info. I noticed a lot of ads at chinadaily. Com for independents, and have few questions if someone has experience. Are they reliable with real pics? Do they provide full service? What are the typical rates? Any issues with an out-call at one of the Shanghai downtown hotels?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Most of the ads are agency ads, so no chance to get a girl similar to the picture. We contacted ALL the girls from the ads there last year and found only 3 independent girls there, and all 3 used faked pictures.

Typical rate: When you contact a girl there, most of them will ask for RMB 300 for a massage, than when they arrive, the girls will work hard for a upselling and try to get as much as possible. Reasonable rates for outcall will be around 1000 to 1500 for one hour (for that rate you can get a overnight with a vietnam pickup in Manhattan club). Overnight with a independent escort in Shanghai will cost between 3000 and 5000 RMB, but most tome not worth the spending, because it is not sure you can get a morning session.

Coming to Shanghai shortly, staying in the Xintiandi area, looking for local massage + HJ or FS places.

Is there a place, not BBS or Sauna, that combines both near Xintiandi?

I speak Chinese and can manage a conversation. Appreciate your recommendations.

Thanks

Coming to Shanghai shortly, I am looking for a massage + HJ / FS places near Xintiandi.

I am not looking for BBS or Sauna but rather a Massage + options combo.

Many thanks for your recommendations

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1373009]Most of the ads are agency ads, so no chance to get a girl similar to the picture. We contacted ALL the girls from the ads there last year and found only 3 independent girls there, and all 3 used faked pictures.

Typical rate: When you contact a girl there, most of them will ask for RMB 300 for a massage, than when they arrive, the girls will work hard for a upselling and try to get as much as possible. Reasonable rates for outcall will be around 1000 to 1500 for one hour (for that rate you can get a overnight with a vietnam pickup in Manhattan club). Overnight with a independent escort in Shanghai will cost between 3000 and 5000 RMB, but most tome not worth the spending, because it is not sure you can get a morning session.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Any other reliable place to find nice girls for out call? Are the agencies reliable for the looks and service of the girls? Some provide rates of 800 RMB / 90mins for FS.

Hi Vivy.

A girl in Classifieds "Beverly" you will find her if you go back some ads. She also gives her website (picture are real).

1500RMB per 2hrs but great I did see her often. In "Shanghai-nightlife-guide" (google it) you will find more and real reviews (read them critical of course).

Have fun and of course share it here,

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Vvgrp;1373476]Thanks! Any other reliable place to find nice girls for out call? Are the agencies reliable for the looks and service of the girls? Some provide rates of 800 RMB / 90mins for FS.[/QUOTE]

Your reports here always are great, keep going and don't let us wait too long.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNemo; 1372855]Hehehe hi dudes, fellas. Bob.

Soon news from hong qiao area.

New location for be relaxed.

This evening start the mission. '

And soon new situations and new photos[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vvgrp;1373476]Thanks! Any other reliable place to find nice girls for out call? Are the agencies reliable for the looks and service of the girls? Some provide rates of 800 RMB / 90mins for FS.[/QUOTE]If you search for real girls profiles, you can check out here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/[/url]

We try to find and review the less real girls in Shanghai. We can not be 100% sure that there will not be a agency between, but at least we know the profiles are real, so that means girls are what they describe and some of the girls did a picture check with us, so we know the pictures are no fakes.

If you call a agency, first never expect to get the girls from the picture. We only found two agencies till now who will show real pictures of the girls, all others use fakes (most time a picture search on google will show you where they got the photos).

For RMB 800, you will not get what you expect. The agency or the girls will find ways to rise up the price, for example they will tell you BJ is additional RMB 500, or they had a missunderstanding, RMB 800- is only for massage with handjob, FS will be charged extra and so on. You will see, they have a lot of ideas how to get the money out of your pocket. And if the rate is really only RMB 800, you can be sure the girl is the type you would charge 800 to spend time with her! In Shanghai it is like all over the world: if you pay peanuts, you will get monkeys. This city is not a cheap place for Chinese girls fun. You can get girls from Vietnam or Thailand for a reasonable price (overnight RMB 800 to 1500, but no chance to find them online, only for pickup). If you look for pretty Chinese girls in Shanghai (with some english skills) , you will be in a range of at least 1000 RMB to 2000 RMB for one hour and RMB 3000 to RMB 5000- for overnight. You also can visit a KTV (a lot of them in Shanghai). There you can take out girls from RMB 1500- to RMB 2500- for overnight, but you have to spend additional money in the KTV (at least RMB 1000- to RMB 2000-) , so over all also not so cheap (and you need some Chinese skills, because nearly no girl there will be able to communicate in english). But the KTV girls can be a good choice, if you get the phone number and call her later again without the KTV Fee.

It's always nice to have a free afternoon, and met up with a friend waaay out in Minhang, near JaoTong University for a stumbling stroll and check out the action. The area is filled with variety reminiscent of the Inner Ring circa 2005. Now this was a Tuesday afternoon, mind, so the selection was still just waking up, and started off with massage joint just on the corner of DongChuan lu and Humin lu, with the most stunning Boss Lady and several nubile girls cross stitching on the sofa. Now cross stitching is always a sign of greater things, and I couldn't resist the foot massage / body massage combo for 108 at least to warm up. Chose 8 hao (they're al either 6 or 8 hao) , and chatted with her, getting her to giggle and blush from time to time. Massages were excellent, and although her hands roamed, they didn't roam closely enough to indicate any further action. We exchanged numbers and qq, and although she said there are girls who do "special oil massage", nothing further ensued.

Off we went, with my friend getting his buzz on and stumbled on a line of BBS's in deseprate need of new windows and general renovation. Most of the merch were past their sell-by date, but seemed friendly and thrilled at the sight of two laowai. Among them, there was one who was relatively young. 25, and wore the trashiest 80's TV movie hooker dress, and my friend simply couldn't resist. She opened at 200 rmb, he countered with a bold 100, and they settled for 130, including what he described as a lazy BJ. He was there for a good 40 minutes and left pretty satisfied, and she came back looking exhausted and smiling, so I'm guessing the service was good.

My own mission was to get a more homely MILF type, as I generally find them to give better service. BBS's are usually too rused and the beds stink, so I decided to keep walking. Along the way, we found several "man you" Massage places (the ones that give that fake tongue service) , all for 238, same price as in the city center. In the interest of science, I did take a look at some of the attendents and ask about the details of their service, and most of them seemed quite attractive, majority from Wenzhou, and generally thrilled that someone was there on a Tuesday afternoon. I've had mixed experiences with the Wenzhou ones, even though they tend to be quite attractive, so continued exploring.

This area is quite residential and very local, though settled and pretty modern with some new developments. There's a fairly even split of BBS's, normal Massage Joints, and OM's, all within walking distance. I was getting too picky and my friend was past drunk when we finally got to one place with a bright, gorgeous yellow sign. At the door was this naughty looking thing with freshly painted chocolate colored nails and a bright smile. Friend was ready to jump in but I had to cut in line. Took her by the hand and she led me upstairs. 238,"man you".

She's from Sichuan, speaks no english, and been in Shanghai for an unashamed 2 years. The massge itself was fantastic, with her really knowing how to work the different zones, as well as work her own body. She allowed and assisted roaming, and even blushed when I offered to remove her bra before she used her very capable tits on me. So I continued to roand to my delight she was freshly shaved. This is something that's not too common for massage places, and all to scarce in China, and she just giggled and said she's a bit scared of the hair growing back too rough. At that point I had to prop her up on the table and get a better feel for the little cat, and she loved the attention. What followed was mutually enjoyable and judging by her eagerness to guide me, she did help me get her off, which I quite appreciated.

As I went to pay, mamasan gave me a coupon for 28 rmb off and informed me my friend had stumbled out. Turns out he was at the place next door, also 238, although he went slightly overtime and didn't seem too pleased as he left.

Happy hunting gentlement and don't be afraid to search for diamonds in the rough.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai;1372594]Hey there are a ton of places in Puxi and its very big. Give more accurate location?[/QUOTE]What about Luwan or Jinan areas?

In general, which are in Puxi the arrest with most BBS?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sh Surprise;1361623]Anybody seen Luyen lately, a well-endowed young Viet girl at Manhattans (sometimes Malones)? Haven't seen her around in about a month. Any news on her, or any stories to share?[/QUOTE]I've heard some rumors, now. Anyone with confirmation, if she's back?

Anybody up for trying out "King Spa" on Huangpi road. The address might be #95 or #98. I think it's south of the central Fuxing Road intersection. You will see it on the right hand side as you travel south on Huangpi. I'd appreciate a pm.

If you like it. I have a couple of old friends who work there. Oil massage is 200, I've paid 100 tip. The rooms are small, but clean. Shower down the hall from massage room.

Bj4987

One of my favorite girls has moved from her sauna in Pudong to a sauna place near the above intersection. She can't seem to tell me the street number though she has given me the floor that it is on.

She is a great 18 year old spinner.

Please PM me if you know this sauna and can provide better address info.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1374769]One of my favorite girls has moved from her sauna in Pudong to a sauna place near the above intersection. She can't seem to tell me the street number though she has given me the floor that it is on.

She is a great 18 year old spinner.

Please PM me if you know this sauna and can provide better address info.[/QUOTE]It might be the old Feng Ding Yuan sauna (where red rope was available about 2 years ago). Its in the same building block of the nanjing xi lu fake marked. The entrance is in an alley (mostly a parking entrance) between beijing and nanjing xi, to the west of Chengdu lu. Look up either from Nanjing or Beijing and you might see the massage sign.

Going to be in shanghai from 26th to 29, anyone interested in meeting up for some adventure and share war stories, PM me

I checked into the Swissotel and asked the concierge whether he heard of 999 sauna. He said 'only professional massage in Shanghai'. I said 'No. I know there is sauna too and he said he did not know' Yeah sure. ..but if I showed him the address he would write it in Chinese for the driver. I gave him the address and he looked on the internet, then wrote it down. Funniest thing. He asked me to tell him how it was when I returned since there were no pictures or reviews online! ROFL. Taxi driver found the place fine and overall it was a great time at 999! Arrived around 23:30 Saturday night. Very nice staff and very clean. Put my clothes in the locker while the locker boy watched. A bit creepy. Especially when I was taking a shower. Maybe he doesn't see many big Westerners. Taken to a massage room, offered a beverage, TV, etc. Then after about 5 minutes they took me down the hall for the lineup behind the curtain and glass window. At least 15 girls and everyone was really cute, slim, nice bodies. Not really many other customers around. I picked the youngest, most innocent one#823. She took me upstairs to a private room that had a separate shower room. She undressed me and then she also got naked, proceeded to take a shower and wash me all over, then had me sit in a chair that was open underneath my bottom area so she could wash my balls and ass. Then I laid down on the shower table while she gave me a great nuru massage. Such soft, smooth skin and nice perky B cups. Her Y had the full on Chinese hair do. And was like a scrub brush! Not like the fully shaved girls we have in the West. This girl was SO hot. Wow. I was ready to stick it in right then! We then showered again and went over to the bed. She gave me the cat bath, then with some warm water in her mouth a very nice BBBJ. She continued to kiss me all over, then went back to sucking junior again for more BBBJ. I then laid her down on her back and kissed and licked her body and breasts all over. She giggled when I kept working my way down lower and lower. I couldn't take it anymore and she was ready too. WOW. She loved getting pounded hard and just moaned and moaned. Finished up, relaxed and hugged. Nice GFE too. She was so sweet. Excellent time for 880 rmb! I will return!

Just to report. Fun club on Saturday night for some great music and 45 rmb beer. SO crowded though. 200 guys and 100 old Vietnamese girls with all their makeup on. Impossible to walk around much. I talked to a few but after having just cum from 999 no real interest here. I just wanted to check out the place. Good for an older crowd, but still fun.

it's a great place! for some reason, it's rarely mentioned in the forum. strange given all the expats living in the gubei area.

[quote=upnorth48; 1369133]hi friends.

finally my first post. yay.

i have recently relocated to shanghai. fulltime. i have been visiting china on and off since 1997 and have seen and done some amazing things with beautiful chinese girls, karaoke queens, bbs

cheapies and sometimes freebies (though i hate hard work for sometimes no reward. my favourite scene is however saunas. i love the choice of the fishbowl and the relaxing hot pool beforehand.

i'm living at gubei so i have been checking out the local scene. plenty of massage joints rep001tered around the place. oil massage average rmb 220 with hj plus titties tip straight to girl rmb100 to rmb 200 depending on girl and your negotiating skills. i speak a little putonghua so i can usually wrangle and ok deal.

got time the other day to go to bi li hu sauna. its next to the 7-11 off hongbaoshi lu. just up from the new takashimaya? near yili road metro exit.

clean surroundings and well signposted. usual disrobing shower, soaked in hotpool. i opted for a skin scrub as well as a felt a little decadent on my return to the middle kingdom.

next small room with reclining seats. offered toe nail cut etc. declined. then mama ushered in a line up of 10 mei mei's. on average 7-8's though i have been out of the scene for a while. didn't go for the youngest or cutest. they wouldn't smile and look me in the eye so i went for one around 30 years that smiled and looked excited.

number 810.

looks 7.

short

tits. medium and firm.

shaved. no.

technique. 8.

usual cat bath, licked my bum, uncovered hj, condom on then into action. surprisingly tight. cowgirl, doggie, missionary. good cum then massge.

she has a scar on her belly. told me she is from guangdong and has a baby.

damage rmb780 plus rmb80 for salt scrub.

will keep exploring my new hood and posting. any advice on gubei appreciated.[/quote]

Just got a message from her that she's back to Shanghai. Since the original post, she has formed quite a fan base in this forum. She asked me to post a message and let the fans know that she's back in town. It has been a pretty interesting experience knowing her. She's not clinging, very open and funny and knows exactly what she want in addition to her good skills and attitudes.

[QUOTE=Jman90024; 1318155]One of my favorite sauna (Holiday Inn on Changshu Lu) has recently came back to business. Lovely facility and excellent selection girls. I have been going there and seeing #28. I don't typically write about girl but this is a gem that should be shared. She's about 26 with a nice 36E (34D enhanced and nicely done) , great attitude, and excellent skill. One of the best oral I have had for a while. She's also quite a squirter and totally enjoy DATY. She reminds me a lot of the Asian stars in the Western porn.

I chat with her from time to time. She's pretty open and honest about why she work this line. It's good to share this and promote her a bit just to help her out. She's only in Shanghai for 6 months to make enough money to get back home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jman90024;1375586]Just got a message from her that she's back to Shanghai. Since the original post, she has formed quite a fan base in this forum. She asked me to post a message and let the fans know that she's back in town. It has been a pretty interesting experience knowing her. She's not clinging, very open and funny and knows exactly what she want in addition to her good skills and attitudes.[/QUOTE]Please let us know, how much the damage in this sauna is, will ya? Cheers!

If you haven't heard or read of this practice yet. BEWARE. Unlike the tuk tuk drivers in Thailand that just take you to a higher priced soapy. In China it could be a lot worse. So a guy on the street asks you if you want a massage and may even show you some pictures of some sexy girls on business cards and tells you it's only 300 rmb for everything included. FS too. Seems like a nice enough guy so you go along with him. He may even jump in a taxi with you and say it's only a 3 minute ride or 15 rmb ride to this good place. He knows the manager and shows you a VIP card. He'll tell you it's a big place with lots of girls to choose from. He'll tell you that you can get a massage, BJ, FS. Etc. You arrive at a decent looking place and it looks like a KTV. You go in, sit on the couch, and the mamasan brings some girls in for the lineup. Pretty girls so you pick one. She comes over and sits next to you on the couch and the mamasan tells you to talk to the girl for awhile and get to know each other. They are busy and you have to wait for a room They offer you a beer or water. They bring some lady drinks in. You confirm the price just to be sure. 100 for massage and then 200 more for FS. She puts the TV on with some music. The girl starts hugging you, massaging your neck, grabbing your crotch, pulling her top down and you can play with her boobs. She may ask for the 100 rmb now for the massage and then you pay 200 for FS later. OK, so you take out 100 and put it on the table. Hmmm. Really good so far. As you talk, she grabs the bulge in your pants now that you're excited and you keep playing with her boobs and grabbing and hugging her all over. Then the door opens and another girl comes in. The original girl may say she has her monthly and can't have FS. Especially if you originally picked the prettiest one. She may or may not ever do FS but she got you to play so far. She tells you this is her sister and she will do FS. She's a pretty sexy girl so it doesn't matter. The original girls leaves and the new one starts straddling you and warming you up. You're all excited again. She gets up and shuts the light off. You ask what's going on and she says they are still very busy so we do FS here. WOW. Sex in a KTV room. That's pretty cool. You get naked and pound her every which way. On the couch, from behind with her on the couch. Great, wild sex. All done. Clean up with some tissues and you're all set. She puts the light on. You pay her the 200 and then the mamasan and waiter walks in. They ask if you had a good time and you say YES, but that you didn't like that they switched girls and never had an upstairs massage room, but all in all you are pretty happy. Now the mamasan asks for 300 rmb more for her tip. She brought the girls in for you. And the kung fu looking waiter asks for his tip. 200 more for him. You say. Common. Enough is enough. They persist. OK, what to do. You try to give a lower tip to each but they insist on 300 and 200 as tips. OK, what to do? You're in the room with only them. So you give the tip or a lesser tip and get up to leave. Now the manager walks in and asks how everything was. You say good. But that you didn't like the fact they switched the room and the girl but it was still a good time. He tells you to sit down and talk to him. He wants to be sure everyone had a good time and that the customer is happy. You again say YES. Now he uses a louder, firmer voice and says that he wants to tell you how it really works here. The funny, friendly waiter. Yeah that Kung Fu looking dude is now standing in front of the door acting as a bodyguard for the manager. The manager goes on to tell you how it really is. He asks why you trust a stranger on the street and get into a taxi with him to go to a club that you don't know in an area that you don't know. Hmmm. You ask yourself the same question and how you could be so stupid! You think to yourself, well, you've done it before in other countries and never had a problem. But now that you think of it you realize that you might have just been lucky. If you play with fire enough times, sooner or later you will get burned. The manager goes on to explain that THIS IS CHINA. You are not in America, or England or whatever your home country it. He says that what you just did with the girl is illegal in China. How can you think that you can do this in China without them providing a safe place for you to do it. A nice room, with couches, TV, beer, etc. He tells you that you can come from your country to CHINA to do all this because he provides security. He has to pay the police so that you have a chance to come here to CHINA and have sex with these girls. Something not legal in China. Now he tells you that you have to pay for the room. Remember the fun time you had screwing that pretty girl in the KTV room. He says the bill for the room is 39000 rmb. 39000 you ask. Yes 39000. In your head you start doing the exchange rate. Wow, you can't even think of how much that is. OH. And while you're doing this, Kung Fu man #2 comes in. He's even bigger than the other guy and he stands in the room too, blocking the door. You try to stay calm. You tell the manager that you don't have 39000 and he says, no problem. They take credit cards. You tell him again that you don't have that kind of money. He says, well you are from America, England, whatever. And that you are a rich guy. You make good money. He tells you that this only happens once to you. And that maybe you learn now so this never happens again. He asks if you will trust a stranger on the street again, or did you learn? If you want to call the police, no problem. That is the security that he has to pay and that is why he needs the money from you! He asks you to take everything out of your pockets. All your cash and to count it. You look up at the 2 Kung Fu dudes. You're in a room with one way out, upstairs on the 2nd floor. Your mind races trying to think of what to do. If you don't pay it, will they beat you, or kill you, or just cut out your kidneys to sell them, and leave you dying in an alley somewhere? Is your life worth 39000 rmb? Most people might think so. If you don't happen to be walking around with a stack of red Mao's totaling 39000 rmb in your pocket, he'll ask about your credit cards and tell you to just pay with that. You say you don't have them or enough credit for 39000 rmb. He asks if you lie to him? Hmmm. What do you do now. What do you tell him? He says that he will try to use your credit cards and that you better not lie to him. So what do you do. How do you make it out of here alive? How do you negotiate your life? Do you pay? Even if you pay, will they still beat you, or kill you, or kidnap you so your family pays more money. Remember, this is CHINA as he reminded you. Things work different here. Maybe you will think of something? Did you learn your lesson? What country will you go to next looking for some sexy girls? What are their rules? How will it work there? Next time you want a Happy Ending. WILL IT END HAPPY?

I don't know how often this was said here on this Shanghai forum. Maybe we should arrange a weekly warning function.

NEVER EVER follow a tout on the street in Shanghai, no matter how appealing it seems or how pretty the girl is.

Lev.

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;1376025]If you haven't heard or read of this practice yet. BEWARE. Unlike the tuk tuk drivers in Thailand that just take you to a higher priced soapy. In China it could be a lot worse. So a guy on the street asks you if you want a massage and may even show you some pictures of some sexy girls on business cards and tells you it's only 300 rmb for everything included. FS too. Seems like a nice enough guy so you go along with him. He may even jump in a taxi with you and say it's only a 3 minute ride or 15 rmb ride to this good place. He knows the manager and shows you a VIP card. He'll tell you it's a big place with lots of girls to choose from. He'll tell you that you can get a massage, BJ, FS. Etc. You arrive at a decent looking place and it looks like a KTV. You go in, sit on the couch, and the mamasan brings some girls in for the lineup. Pretty girls so you pick one. She comes over and sits next to you on the couch and the mamasan tells you to talk to the girl for awhile and get to know each other. They are busy and you have to wait for a room They offer you a beer or water. They bring some lady drinks in. You confirm the price just to be sure. 100 for massage and then 200 more for FS. She puts the TV on with some music. The girl starts hugging you, massaging your neck, grabbing your crotch, pulling her top down and you can play with her boobs. She may ask for the 100 rmb now for the massage and then you pay 200 for FS later. OK, so you take out 100 and put it on the table. Hmmm. Really good so far. As you talk, she grabs the bulge in your pants now that you're excited and you keep playing with her boobs and grabbing and hugging her all over. Then the door opens and another girl comes in. The original girl may say she has her monthly and can't have FS. Especially if you originally picked the prettiest one. She may or may not ever do FS but she got you to play so far. She tells you this is her sister and she will do FS. She's a pretty sexy girl so it doesn't matter. The original girls leaves and the new one starts straddling you and warming you up. You're all excited again. She gets up and shuts the light off. You ask what's going on and she says they are still very busy so we do FS here. WOW. Sex in a KTV room. That's pretty cool. You get naked and pound her every which way. On the couch, from behind with her on the couch. Great, wild sex. All done. Clean up with some tissues and you're all set. She puts the light on. You pay her the 200 and then the mamasan and waiter walks in. They ask if you had a good time and you say YES, but that you didn't like that they switched girls and never had an upstairs massage room, but all in all you are pretty happy. Now the mamasan asks for 300 rmb more for her tip. She brought the girls in for you. And the kung fu looking waiter asks for his tip. 200 more for him. You say. Common. Enough is enough. They persist. OK, what to do. You try to give a lower tip to each but they insist on 300 and 200 as tips. OK, what to do? You're in the room with only them. So you give the tip or a lesser tip and get up to leave. Now the manager walks in and asks how everything was. You say good. But that you didn't like the fact they switched the room and the girl but it was still a good time. He tells you to sit down and talk to him. He wants to be sure everyone had a good time and that the customer is happy. You again say YES. Now he uses a louder, firmer voice and says that he wants to tell you how it really works here. The funny, friendly waiter. Yeah that Kung Fu looking dude is now standing in front of the door acting as a bodyguard for the manager. The manager goes on to tell you how it really is. He asks why you trust a stranger on the street and get into a taxi with him to go to a club that you don't know in an area that you don't know. Hmmm. You ask yourself the same question and how you could be so stupid! You think to yourself, well, you've done it before in other countries and never had a problem. But now that you think of it you realize that you might have just been lucky. If you play with fire enough times, sooner or later you will get burned. The manager goes on to explain that THIS IS CHINA. You are not in America, or England or whatever your home country it. He says that what you just did with the girl is illegal in China. How can you think that you can do this in China without them providing a safe place for you to do it. A nice room, with couches, TV, beer, etc. He tells you that you can come from your country to CHINA to do all this because he provides security. He has to pay the police so that you have a chance to come here to CHINA and have sex with these girls. Something not legal in China. Now he tells you that you have to pay for the room. Remember the fun time you had screwing that pretty girl in the KTV room. He says the bill for the room is 39000 rmb. 39000 you ask. Yes 39000. In your head you start doing the exchange rate. Wow, you can't even think of how much that is. OH. And while you're doing this, Kung Fu man #2 comes in. He's even bigger than the other guy and he stands in the room too, blocking the door. You try to stay calm. You tell the manager that you don't have 39000 and he says, no problem. They take credit cards. You tell him again that you don't have that kind of money. He says, well you are from America, England, whatever. And that you are a rich guy. You make good money. He tells you that this only happens once to you. And that maybe you learn now so this never happens again. He asks if you will trust a stranger on the street again, or did you learn? If you want to call the police, no problem. That is the security that he has to pay and that is why he needs the money from you! He asks you to take everything out of your pockets. All your cash and to count it. You look up at the 2 Kung Fu dudes. You're in a room with one way out, upstairs on the 2nd floor. Your mind races trying to think of what to do. If you don't pay it, will they beat you, or kill you, or just cut out your kidneys to sell them, and leave you dying in an alley somewhere? Is your life worth 39000 rmb? Most people might think so. If you don't happen to be walking around with a stack of red Mao's totaling 39000 rmb in your pocket, he'll ask about your credit cards and tell you to just pay with that. You say you don't have them or enough credit for 39000 rmb. He asks if you lie to him? Hmmm. What do you do now. What do you tell him? He says that he will try to use your credit cards and that you better not lie to him. So what do you do. How do you make it out of here alive? How do you negotiate your life? Do you pay? Even if you pay, will they still beat you, or kill you, or kidnap you so your family pays more money. Remember, this is CHINA as he reminded you. Things work different here. Maybe you will think of something? Did you learn your lesson? What country will you go to next looking for some sexy girls? What are their rules? How will it work there? Next time you want a Happy Ending. WILL IT END HAPPY?[/QUOTE]

She called it Feng Ding Source! Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Landa2;1374921]It might be the old Feng Ding Yuan sauna (where red rope was available about 2 years ago). Its in the same building block of the nanjing xi lu fake marked. The entrance is in an alley (mostly a parking entrance) between beijing and nanjing xi, to the west of Chengdu lu. Look up either from Nanjing or Beijing and you might see the massage sign.[/QUOTE]

Johnny,

With the detailed description, sounds like it happened to you. Sorry. Happened to me exactly like that. I felt stupid as I knew better, scammed in a way it was hard to get over. Vengeful and more. I tired to hide the ccards with higher limits on them but they found them. I ended up giving them a couple of cards to pay and then signed a different way. Threw the cards on a busy street and then disputed the charges back home. Didn't feel completely honest about it but F'them.

So, just wanted to let you know you are not the first or only to have it happen to you.

Again, as said over and over, NEVER follow a Tout!

In the end, an expensive lesson. Again, I feel you bro.

MD40.

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;1376025]If you haven't heard or read of this practice yet. BEWARE. Unlike the tuk tuk drivers in Thailand that just take you to a higher priced soapy. In China it could be a lot worse. So a guy on the street asks you if you want a massage and may even show you some pictures of some sexy girls on business cards and tells you it's only 300 rmb for everything included. FS too. Seems like a nice enough guy so you go along with him. He may even jump in a taxi with you and say it's only a 3 minute ride or 15 rmb ride to this good place. He knows the manager and shows you a VIP card. He'll tell you it's a big place with lots of girls to choose from. He'll tell you that you can get a massage, BJ, FS. Etc. You arrive at a decent looking place and it looks like a KTV. You go in, sit on the couch, and the mamasan brings some girls in for the lineup. Pretty girls so you pick one. She comes over and sits next to you on the couch and the mamasan tells you to talk to the girl for awhile and get to know each other. They are busy and you have to wait for a room They offer you a beer or water. They bring some lady drinks in. You confirm the price just to be sure. 100 for massage and then 200 more for FS. She puts the TV on with some music. The girl starts hugging you, massaging your neck, grabbing your crotch, pulling her top down and you can play with her boobs. She may ask for the 100 rmb now for the massage and then you pay 200 for FS later. OK, so you take out 100 and put it on the table. Hmmm. Really good so far. As you talk, she grabs the bulge in your pants now that you're excited and you keep playing with her boobs and grabbing and hugging her all over. Then the door opens and another girl comes in. The original girl may say she has her monthly and can't have FS. Especially if you originally picked the prettiest one. She may or may not ever do FS but she got you to play so far. She tells you this is her sister and she will do FS. She's a pretty sexy girl so it doesn't matter. The original girls leaves and the new one starts straddling you and warming you up. You're all excited again. She gets up and shuts the light off. You ask what's going on and she says they are still very busy so we do FS here. WOW. Sex in a KTV room. That's pretty cool. You get naked and pound her every which way. On the couch, from behind with her on the couch. Great, wild sex. All done. Clean up with some tissues and you're all set. She puts the light on. You pay her the 200 and then the mamasan and waiter walks in. They ask if you had a good time and you say YES, but that you didn't like that they switched girls and never had an upstairs massage room, but all in all you are pretty happy. Now the mamasan asks for 300 rmb more for her tip. She brought the girls in for you. And the kung fu looking waiter asks for his tip. 200 more for him. You say. Common. Enough is enough. They persist. OK, what to do. You try to give a lower tip to each but they insist on 300 and 200 as tips. OK, what to do? You're in the room with only them. So you give the tip or a lesser tip and get up to leave. Now the manager walks in and asks how everything was. You say good. But that you didn't like the fact they switched the room and the girl but it was still a good time. He tells you to sit down and talk to him. He wants to be sure everyone had a good time and that the customer is happy. You again say YES. Now he uses a louder, firmer voice and says that he wants to tell you how it really works here. The funny, friendly waiter. Yeah that Kung Fu looking dude is now standing in front of the door acting as a bodyguard for the manager. The manager goes on to tell you how it really is. He asks why you trust a stranger on the street and get into a taxi with him to go to a club that you don't know in an area that you don't know. Hmmm. You ask yourself the same question and how you could be so stupid! You think to yourself, well, you've done it before in other countries and never had a problem. But now that you think of it you realize that you might have just been lucky. If you play with fire enough times, sooner or later you will get burned. The manager goes on to explain that THIS IS CHINA. You are not in America, or England or whatever your home country it. He says that what you just did with the girl is illegal in China. How can you think that you can do this in China without them providing a safe place for you to do it. A nice room, with couches, TV, beer, etc. He tells you that you can come from your country to CHINA to do all this because he provides security. He has to pay the police so that you have a chance to come here to CHINA and have sex with these girls. Something not legal in China. Now he tells you that you have to pay for the room. Remember the fun time you had screwing that pretty girl in the KTV room. He says the bill for the room is 39000 rmb. 39000 you ask. Yes 39000. In your head you start doing the exchange rate. Wow, you can't even think of how much that is. OH. And while you're doing this, Kung Fu man #2 comes in. He's even bigger than the other guy and he stands in the room too, blocking the door. You try to stay calm. You tell the manager that you don't have 39000 and he says, no problem. They take credit cards. You tell him again that you don't have that kind of money. He says, well you are from America, England, whatever. And that you are a rich guy. You make good money. He tells you that this only happens once to you. And that maybe you learn now so this never happens again. He asks if you will trust a stranger on the street again, or did you learn? If you want to call the police, no problem.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for MadDog and Johny being honest. It has been said many times and should be repeated. Never follow a tout, no matter what country you are in! Remember what your mom taught you. Don't talk to strangers. And what could be stranger that a guy on the street trying to get you to get in a car with him.

There are so many options in Shanghai (and all over China) that there is no need to follow a tout or call an outcall girl out of the newspaper. Both will bring you sorrow and empty your wallet.

Enough said.

SH.

[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1376060]Johnny,

With the detailed description, sounds like it happened to you. Sorry. Happened to me exactly like that. I felt stupid as I knew better, scammed in a way it was hard to get over. Vengeful and more. I tired to hide the ccards with higher limits on them but they found them. I ended up giving them a couple of cards to pay and then signed a different way. Threw the cards on a busy street and then disputed the charges back home. Didn't feel completely honest about it but F'them.

So, just wanted to let you know you are not the first or only to have it happen to you.

Again, as said over and over, NEVER follow a Tout!

In the end, an expensive lesson. Again, I feel you bro.

MD40.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1376047]I don't know how often this was said here on this Shanghai forum. Maybe we should arrange a weekly warning function.

NEVER EVER follow a tout on the street in Shanghai, no matter how appealing it seems or how pretty the girl is.

Lev.[/QUOTE]Lev's right, NEVER go with ANYone, male or female, especially seemingly innocent 'students'. They could even claim to be ABC, use a few idioms or slang words / phrases. They are very good at what they do.

I'm not clear on the rules for posting QQ numbers, so I'll play it safe and leave it to a PM for those that want. If I'm allowed, let me know and I'll edit this post.

For now I'll just say her name is 911mm. Ya, I know, WTF? Trust me, this girl is awesome. You should be able to find her on QQ with that name.

I met up today with a girl I had the luck to find in one of the sauna's a while back. I have been lucky to meet a few sauna girls outside of work and she is definitely one of the best. I can't say if she still works at a sauna since I haven't seen her at one in while. Regardless, she seems now to prefer meeting guys through QQ and she specifically asked me to spread the word on ISG. When I last met her two years ago she had asked something similar, but this time around she wanted all you guys to know. If you're lucky to have her let you met her, some of you may recognize who she is.

She's f'ing hot. 5 foot nothing. Double Ds on a slim and smooth flawless body. Great ass. Long black hair. A really sweet face.

She's a really sweet girl too. She comes across a little quiet but don't let that fool you.

Service is great. She goes through the sauna play list but. At least this time around. With a nice BBBJ twist. She started with the BBBJ and would continue to intermix it with various stages of the sauna massage stuff. It felt like she had her lips wrapped around my friend for half the time I was there. I'm sure it wasn't that long but it was. Great! Surprisingly she hadn't depleted me before the main event. Rocking that hot body is a sight to be seen. Uh, seeing her body. Not mine.

Location: Pudong. She'll do the typical QQ thing with you to get you to her place once she's vetted you online.

Price: you'll have to discuss that with her. Oddly enough, I've never talked $ with her. I always just handed her a "tip" at the end of our "meeting". And she's never complained. She specifically told me not to mention a price, so I'm sure we will make it clear with you on QQ.

Pix: I have but she asked me not to post and have you get all that on QQ. She has a ton of "glamour" shots that she started to do a couple of years ago. All very amazing. And yes all her. Just all glam'd up. My personal feeling is that she really didn't need to do those kind of shots. She's naturally hot and IMHO doesn't need any "photographic help".

One thing which is typical of most QQ girls, you should be comfortable with at least a bit of Mandarin. And have a decent translator on your phone. She speaks zero english. Zero. But, my Mandarin kind of sucks and I've still managed to communicate with her. We just whip out our phones every now and then.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1376025]If you haven't heard or read of this practice yet. BEWARE.

If you don't happen to be walking around with a stack of red Mao's totaling 39000 rmb in your pocket, he'll ask about your credit cards and tell you to just pay with that. You say you don't have them or enough credit for 39000 rmb. He asks if you lie to him? Hmmm. What do you do now. What do you tell him? He says that he will try to use your credit cards and that you better not lie to him. So what do you do. How do you make it out of here alive? How do you negotiate your life? Do you pay? Even if you pay, will they still beat you, or kill you, or kidnap you so your family pays more money. Remember, this is CHINA as he reminded you. Things work different here. Maybe you will think of something? Did you learn your lesson? What country will you go to next looking for some sexy girls? What are their rules? How will it work there? Next time you want a Happy Ending. WILL IT END HAPPY?[/QUOTE]Johnny. Thanks for sharing and sorry you went through that. I just wanted to add my 2 RMB and say that it's not just in Shanghai. There are also some very frightening stories about touts in the Shinjuku area in Tokyo where mongers have become "ill" after consuming some of the drinks provided in a tout-directed bar and / or being given a bar bill that is totally outrageous. And this is only with the girls sitting with them, not even sitting ON them.

Stay safe.

LD

(had network issues while posting this. note to moderator: please delete if this is a duplicate)

so, i celebrated my first four free evenings in shanghai with a bit of a marathon.

first off, my negotiation skills still suck (or i'm still just to f'ing nice) , and i only managed 1500 lt and 1000 st from manhattan / judy's. two years ago i was able to get 1000 lt with no haggling with an awesome little viet. but not so this time.

any way.

wednesday: manhattans a passing girl and a girlie bar.

i started out wednesday evening at manhattans. i was expecting to be dead and not expecting to stay. surprisingly it was rather busy and it was barely 11pm! i sat by the bar trying hard not the make prolonged eye contact. my goal was to relax drink and watch. without making prolonged eye contact. it didn't work. i was quickly scoped out by. uh, ya. a viet girl. i played coy for a while but she made her way over and we started chatting."what's your name? where are you from?." to be honest, i actually enjoyed this little chat game. she was actually quite fun to talk with. even though she wasn't exactly my type, i couldn't help myself. her name is vi. probably like 30% of the rest of the girls. a little cury. awesome smile. she tends to hang out by the bar closer to the door with her gals. like i said, for some reason i couldn't help myself and we ended up heading out for a lt. here's where my negotiation skills proved extremely rusty. 1500 was the ask. i whined a bit. she whined a bit. and i caved. yes, shame on me. back at my place i got a better look at her body. a bit soft. a bit chubby. the scar. i'd say she's likely in her mid 30s. again, i kind of knew this walking in but i suppose i was dreaming that maybe i would be surprised. one thing for sure, the service was great. she was extremely passionate. great kisser. loved daty. great bbbj. wild main event. she definitely loves sex. she basically did not let me rest before starting a second round. no main event the second time but a long blow and at some point to my surprise she had her finger up my. ya, that. i don't get finger raped that often, but it wasn't bad. she did a good job of exhausting me. she asked if i felt like sleeping. i responded, uh. ya, you just killed me. she laughed and said, well, if you sleep, i'll go home now. i didn't argue. ok, so technically i got a bit ripped off. i probably should have known better. oh well, chalk it up to being rusty.

after she left, for some reason i had the urge to look for my wallet. i think i was a little too full of beer and wasn't quite sure what the heck had been going on. well, my instinct to search seemed justified. my wallet was gone. sadly my first reaction was that she took it. i'll quickly say, i was wrong. she's innocent. but i have to admit at the time i was steaming. enough so that suddenly i was no longer exhausted. i quickly threw on some clothes and ran out determined to find her in manhattans. and guess what. just outside my condo. laying in the dark. my wallet. with everything still there. i guess i really was more drunk than i thought and let my wallet fall to the ground when i got out of the taxi.

a funny thing then happened. suddenly i felt like going out again. even though sufficiently drained by miss vi, i wanted more. i wandered off to a bank machine to replenish my funds. as i wandered out into the dark a cute chinese girl walking by caught my eye and she suddenly says "hi". i was. uh,"hi?". she walked by and i walked off. for some reason i looked back. and she was looking back. i waved. she waved back. weird. she looks back again but keeps walking. she turns a corner. and i decide to start walking in her direction. i pass where she turned and she's still looking back. i wave and she waves again. again. weird. in the end i did nothing and kept walking. not sure if i had had the balls to pursue this if it would have turned out to be an invitation. at the time i felt a bit creepy and decided to walk off.

i decided i wanted to check out the girlie bars behind the eton in pudong. see for myself. i hopped in a cab and headed out towards eton. it was about 3:30am at the time. i walked by the string of bars and ended up in one near the east end of the string. to be honest i don't quite remember the name. it's a small place. filipina tending bar another sat beside me. there were two young chinese girls there. one i didn't even notice until she started giving me a shoulder massage. the girl behind the bar. i believe her name is lisa, was fun to talk with. so funny, i so much with her i pretty much had ignored the girl massaging me. eventually they asked if i wanted to buy them some drinks. for some reason, i decided to be more savvy here in a girlie bar. i asked lisa to be nice to me. that i knew how this worked. she smiled and seemed to respect this. i ended up just buying drinks for the girl behind me. who turned out to be pretty cute. but very shy. after a while another chinese girl. a little chubbier (name jessie). came up. interesting, she was obviously more sexed up in her approach. lisa laughs and says "she's the upgrade". here's where i caved a bit again. i ended up buying drinks for both girls. to be honest we had a lot of fun. i had to check the bill every now and then to keep tabs on what i was spending. they were honest. actually it turned out lisa had been a bit nice and was apparently undercharging me. another girl had eventually taken over behind the bar and made some comment when i asked to add up the bill."lisa charged wrong." oh well, lucky me. by the time i rolled out of the bar i had spent 1600 rmb. no "fun" was had. but we still had a lot of fun. i think i would be more direct next time and stick to one girl to keep the cost down but i definitely wasn't cheated.

thursday: judy's and manhattans.

the next night i started off at judy's. it was just past 11pm. the last time i was in shanghai two years ago i had spent a lot of time at judy's with a great group of filipina girls. sadly it seems these girls have all disappeared or at least i haven't seen them around yet. has anyone else noticed less fil's in shanghai lately?

anyway, i decided this night i would be more particular about who i went home with. a little less rust.

i sat at an empty table at the side near the door beside a table of a couple of viet girls. they kept to themselves. something i like about judy's. the vibe is less intense and the girls less aggressive (in general). well, that quickly ended. a really hot viet girl wearing practically nothing made a be-line to my table. i'll be honest, i have to give her points for personality for the way she propositioned me. said could even go back to her place. ya she was hot, but i had just arrived and a bit put off by the aggression. the two of us played cat and mouse for an hour before i had to flatly tell her "no". in a very nice way. she respected that. and that was that. i've seen her since the next days and she leaves me alone. perhaps my loss but. hey. whatever. for a good part of the evening i was eyed and approached by a few more viet girls. one, another of the older set, gave me a free leg massage. i held my ground. at one point, another really hot viet ended up sitting in the table beside me. quiet girl. didn't approach me. just smiled when we made eye contact. eventually the girls started packing up to leave. even the hot one beside me gets dressed. they all leave. the hot one then suddenly returns and is sitting beside me again. i look at her. she smiles. says her friends are all going to manhattan and she asks if i want to go. sure. whatever. so i go. it was freezing so we hopped in a taxi and took the quick trip up the street and over. now i'm arm in arm with this hot girl who hasn't once yet tried to proposition me. nice. we wander into a still packed manhattans. into the back and meet up with a few of her friends. i end up buying my hot friend some drinks as well as for her older friend who somehow seems to really like me. the friend is a real tease and kind of knows i like the hot one better. teases me about making sure my hot friend gives me at least 4 shots tonight. we all laugh. i still haven't been propositioned. we drink. we dance. in the end my new hot friend and i look at each other and decide, what the heck. of course, i always seem to cave some place. i agree once again for 1500 lt. but honestly, this girl, named kim. 5 foot nothing slim. awesome face smile eyes. something unique about the simple beauty of the whole package compared to many. she just made me melt. she turned out to be a real sweet heart. and she actually stayed the whole night. f'ing awesome bbbj. omg. great kisser. seemed to enjoy daty. sex awesome. a real sweet gfe vibe about the whole night. not your typical viet pse wham-bam experience. it was so late, we only managed one shot before sleeping and then another when we woke.

friday: judy's and manhattans.

next evening i head to manhattans again. it was insanely busy just before 11:30pm. i bailed quickly and headed back to judy's. which was also insanely packed. i squeeze into the back and end up with a group of friendly chaps. an irishman named fin (i think) and his brit and scott buddies. of course i'm approached by an older viet girl. i held my ground again. eventually my new hot friend kim wanders past. we have an awkward passing. like surprised to see each other. i wasn't quite sure how to take it. whatever.

then another viet approaches me. actually quite hot. named linda. pretty aggressive. typical. but hot hot hot. like the first one from thursday, she even wanted to take me back to her place. i say no. too early. she wanders off after getting 100 off me for her time. i'm a sucker and give it to her. hey, i didn't even buy her drinks and i got a nice. uh. feel of her for a while. so i figured. whatever.

soon after, kim's older friend finds me and rushes over to flirt. how many shots did i get from kim she asks. i say i don't kiss and tell. her older friend is quite cool. fun but just not my type. she really worked hard this evening to get me to take her home. but in a very indirect way. never propositioned me. just flirted like hell. kept pointing to other viet girls and asked if i liked this one or that one. i smiled. she even points out linda and says she's "really good". i smile. eventually she brings kim over and what had earlier been an awkward passing by now become a really fun evening with two girls. i bought them drinks and they pushed me into the tequila line. i was toast. we all headed to manhattan around 4am and had some more fun. by this time kim's older friend was being more direct to get me to take her home. i told her i was too drunk to be of any use. she wouldn't give up. i had to say no. she was disappointed but took it better than the hotter younger aggressive girl i had turned down at judy's the night before. this one is a class act. she wandered off to flirt with some other guys and left me alone with kim. we continued drinking dancing kissing holding. damn. was i on a date with this girl? lol. i know. no. but it felt like it. i was honest with her. even earlier at judy's that i likely was not in any mood or shape to take anyone home. she seemed cool with that. in the end i told her i had to go home and sleep it off. we said goodbye and i left. oh. of course before i had the chance to leave, kim's older friend made one last ditch attempt to sell herself. all in a fun way. we exchanged kisses and i was off. no sex that night but a fun night was had by all.

saturday: malones (too quick to almost mention) manhattans and judy's again. pushing the limits of lack of sleep.

despite not having much of anything to do during the day, i still didn't get much sleep to offset my 4 nights of fun. even still, i had the energy to head out one more time. headed to malones first but was out within a minute. tons of guys and very few girls. one hot filipina sitting with a bunch of guys. unattended to but i felt a bit awkward approaching her with the strong male vibe in the room. dunno why. just whimped out. and left. wandered back to manhattan again. again. crazy busy. made my way to the back by the washroom and awkwardly stood there trying to look cool. eventually. you guessed it. i was approached by another viet. this one named apple. this one intrigued me. she had a real fun personality. a real flirt. and when i got a closer look at her. pretty damn hot. not as hot as kim but not bad at all. and young too. 5 foot nothing. shiney silver high heels. short shorts. long dyed brown hair. english not so hot but real fun to talk to. she was aggressive. but i didn't mind this one. we drank a few danced. flirted. yadda yadda. it was early so i insisted we just do short time. i probably still caved by accepting 1000 for st. whatever. again. we headed back to my place and spent most of the time in the taxi with our tongues down each others throats. it turns out i made a good call with apple. she was awesome in bed. bbbj daty lots of kissing. awesome main event. she's only here until mid february. i think she's worth seeing if you can find her.

apple leaves. i wash up. i now head out to judy's. it's almost 2am. pretty soon after i arrive. my hot friend kim shows up. no awkward passing look this time. all smiles. asks if i want to be with her. i say. oh ya. she's all happy and we spend a good few hours drinking and dancing and yadda yadda. home we go and this night was even better than the first. yup, i paid the same 1500 lt. i got to be careful. i'm going to fall for this girl if i don't keep my senses about me. i actually forced myself to write this long post to kick the reality back into my head that this is all p4p.

my goal now is to find where all the fils are at. i saw a few at judy's but not like 2 years ago. was i at malones too early? is there another hangout they're at? or are the numbers just down this time?

thanks for reading to end of this ramble.

[QUOTE=Golly Woggle;1376220]She specifically told me not to mention a price, so I'm sure we will make it clear with you on QQ.[/QUOTE]Oops. I mean. SHE will make it clear. Not "WE". No, I'm not a pimp, just an over-tired monger with no sense of spell check.

[QUOTE=Golly Woggle; 1376261]Wednesday: Manhattans.

I started out Wednesday evening at Manhattans. I was expecting to be dead and not expecting to stay. Surprisingly it was rather busy and it was barely 11PM![/QUOTE]That sounds like the Manhattans that I know. Not sure why "JohnnyVegas" had a bad report from his last visit. Still no news on my inquiry? :

Anybody seen Luyen lately, a well-endowed young Viet girl at Manhattans (sometimes Malones)? Haven't seen her around in about a month. Any news on her, or any stories to share?

This is getting insane, but I'm enjoying every minute. Well, almost every minute.

I woke up in the middle of the night Monday and had the urge to go out again. No work and no commitments for the next little while means I don't need to care one bit. So off I went once again to Tongren lu and Nanjing Xi lu. Judy's was dead at 2AM. Not surprising for a Monday. So dead I didn't bother sitting down. A few bored looking girls. The dancing Fils laughing it up in the back. Empty. So up the road I walked. Malones dark and closed. Kept walking. A gaggle of street vultures descend upon me: "Oh baby! Massageee! Up my ass!" They crowded around me pulling at my clothes. One even managed to half pull some cash out of my pocket. Luckily I was completely sober and caught her in the act. Laughed and commended her on her cleverness and squeezed my way out the group hooker death grip.

Phew.

Kept walking. Up the stairs to Manhattans. Really busy. Not as packed as the weekend but crazy enough to realize there are a lot more insane Monday mongers than myself. I did the awkward walk around. Ended up at the raised tables in the back by the washroom with a group of Chinese from the far west. Pretty intense looking dudes. So I just stood there awkwardly looking around. Music was pumping and girls jumping on stage. I felt awkward but good. Of course eyes were on me. Several tried to proposition and I casually discourage them all. I wander off to the washroom and on the way back almost out of nowhere Vi, the girl I met on my first night of adventure, jumps in front of me all smiles. She's nice and all, and we had a decent time, but I have no intention of repeating with her. Awkward moment. I say something about just here to hang and relax and she darts off. Ouch. Hey, what else am I suppose to do?

My goal was to find some Fils. None really to be had. I saw a couple by the bar near the stage eating skewers and drinking. One hot one obviously taken. The other not so hot, not taken. Oh well. Then I see a short cutey Fil pass by to the washroom. Whuuuh? Now I'm intrigued. She comes out and returns to her table. And there I see a small group of them. Now my previous awkward moments get dialed up a few notches. I wander past the group not really looking off to the bar for a beer. On my way back I make eye contact with one of the Fils. She smiles. I smile. I walk, double-take. She looks, smiles. Stupid me just keeps walking. Whimp. Now I'm back to my post with the intense western Chinese dudes drinking my beer. The earlier Fil I saw wander to the washroom catches my eye and we exchange a "What the hell is this place?" look. I take that as a cue, muster up some courage, and wander over to say hi. She's friendly, we talk. But as we talk I suddenly realize, oh crap, these girls aren't alone. Three girls three dude. Shiite. More awkwardness ensues. What the hell am I doing here, I'm thinking. Then suddenly, the not so hot Fil from near the bar wanders up and accosts me."Where you from?" She's totally wasted. Totally not attractive. Totally crude in an unappealing way. The Fil I'm talking to says she's a friend "You don't like her?" I'm thinking, I want to run and hide!

There's a silver lining.

Throughout all the nights I've wandered lately out to Judy's and Manhattans there's been this one Viet off in the distance that has always caught my eye. She's actually nothing that special to look at. Seems always in a simple blue dress and black dangerously thin stilettos. A real tiny spinner. Nice smile from afar. It always seemed like she was watching me. Ya, I know sounds creepy but it wasn't. Almost like we knew each other and we were exchanging smiling comments about the craziness I was going through. This night was no exception. She was pretty much right behind the table of Fils and had a near front row seat to all my embarrassing adventures. When the Fils decided they were packing up to leave, I slipped away aimlessly and ended up in front of my mystery girl in the blue dress.

Up close her face is not the most attractive. Hot legs. Nice ass. Tiny tits. I don't know why but there was still something about her that was intriguingly attractive. She seemed really shy and quiet. Coy. I smile and she push punches me in the chest like were a couple of 12 year olds."Why you smiling?" she says."Because I always see you smiling at me!" I say. One quick thing led to another and I decided I wanted to take her home. Part of me was thinking,"What the hell are you doing?". Whatever. I asked her price. She says 1000. Cool. Off we go. She was so grateful I was taking her home. I guess I can see that guys might pass her by because of her not so perfect looks. I obviously saw something they didn't. During the ride home she held on tight and had this real shy nervous schoolgirl vibe about her. At home she seemed fascinated with everything as if she had never seen anything so nice. I don't consider my place so nice. Maybe it's big but not nice. She was impressed, again in an intriguing schoolgirl way. She's young looking but I don't think she's that young. I hope not.

What followed really blew my mind. This meek shy tiny spinner of a girl turned into a tiger in bed. It seemed as though her entire body was one huge erogenous zone. A simple touch to her tits sent her writhing. A touch to her wet pussy had her quietly squealing. She's amazing kisser. We rolled around attached by the mouth for what seemed like forever. Then came the BBBJ. Holy WTF! I suppose you should never judge a book by it's cover. It was more fucking than sucking. Holy crap. Then the main event. Super tight and sensitive. She grabbed on to me for her dear life as we rocked away. In the end my friend was back in her mouth for more BBBJ and a CIM finish which surprised her a bit but no complaints.

Within an hour after cleaning up and seemingly both of us nodding off to sleep, we were at it again. This time ending in a standing leaning against the bedroom wall doggy pounding. Again, where the heck did this little spinner come from?

Again, cleaned up and she fell asleep in my arms.

In the morning we eased into another hot round 3.

We ended up laying around in bed until mid afternoon. She seemed in no rush to go home. We talked about each others families and this and that. Her english is really limited but we managed to communicate. Her friend kept calling to check up on her. She didn't want to budge. I was starting to wonder if she was going to end up being a problem, never wanting to leave. But before that thought finished going through my brain, she decided it was time to go home.

I sent her off and sat in disbelief. This little waif just blew my mind among other things. Part of me would want to repeat with her. Part of me, the shallower part, that's not so attracted by her face, thinks I should just move on. But she's a tough show to follow. Even my hot friend Kim who I've repeated already wasn't as passionate as this little spinner.

And after all this, I don't even know her name.

Oh, it's such a hard hard mongering life. LOL.

Amazing post, Golly. While you keep "beating yourself up" about rusty negotiation skills, it seems to me that you enjoyed most every night and had no regrets (glad you found your wallet, though WHEW!) so as they say, you got good / great value for the price paid and for that, you shouldn't apologize. Good for you.

LD

Enjoyable to read. Thanks for sharing. I'll be back in SH in two days and you have me excited to try Manhattans and perhaps Judy's. In fact, let me share my recent experience Saturday night at Manhattans. I rarely go to the bar scene as it makes me feel awkward but thought I'd see what Manhattans was like this year. I have never taken a LT home but did take a ST once. So, walked in and sauntered to the bathroom to view the scenery. It was very crowded about 11pm so I stopped in a little opening spot and drank my Greenie. So and girl comes next to me and starts talking and I was not that interested in her but though it was at least polite to move the casual conversation along. All the while thinking she will move on if I don't show great interest. She takes me to her spot by a table and we continue to talk with her in front of me and grabs my arms around her. She is from Anhui (didn't think there were many Chinese in Manhattan). She became attractive because of her personality and I thought I would ask how much for her to go with me. She said 1000 and I said 800 and not sure if it would be ST or LT. She said fine so we headed back to the Paramount Hotel (my favorite in JingAn).

She turned out to be a terrific find and did every position I know of and was alot of fun. Something interesting is when I blew in the condom, she went down and sucked the condom end playing with it for awhile. I will repeat when I return.

I'm in Shenzhen now and have MoMo installed and getting lots of hits. I'm a little funny about not really knowing who it hitting me back so just toying for now. Lots more action than in SH.

Maybe head over to Macau to try one of the saunas for the experience.

Keep the reports coming guys.

MD40

Hi thanks for this report! Do you have street names / intersections for the BBS and the yellow massage spot? I'm at jiaoda quite a bit and I often eat at DongChuan Lu and Humin Lu but have yet to seen the massage places.

[QUOTE=Contex01; 1373959]It's always nice to have a free afternoon, and met up with a friend waaay out in Minhang, near JaoTong University for a stumbling stroll and check out the action. The area is filled with variety reminiscent of the Inner Ring circa 2005. Now this was a Tuesday afternoon, mind, so the selection was still just waking up, and started off with massage joint just on the corner of DongChuan lu and Humin lu, with the most stunning Boss Lady and several nubile girls cross stitching on the sofa. Now cross stitching is always a sign of greater things, and I couldn't resist the foot massage / body massage combo for 108 at least to warm up. Chose 8 hao (they're al either 6 or 8 hao) , and chatted with her, getting her to giggle and blush from time to time. Massages were excellent, and although her hands roamed, they didn't roam closely enough to indicate any further action. We exchanged numbers and qq, and although she said there are girls who do "special oil massage", nothing further ensued.

Off we went, with my friend getting his buzz on and stumbled on a line of BBS's in deseprate need of new windows and general renovation. Most of the merch were past their sell-by date, but seemed friendly and thrilled at the sight of two laowai. Among them, there was one who was relatively young. 25, and wore the trashiest 80's TV movie hooker dress, and my friend simply couldn't resist. She opened at 200 rmb, he countered with a bold 100, and they settled for 130, including what he described as a lazy BJ. He was there for a good 40 minutes and left pretty satisfied, and she came back looking exhausted and smiling, so I'm guessing the service was good.

My own mission was to get a more homely MILF type, as I generally find them to give better service. BBS's are usually too rused and the beds stink, so I decided to keep walking. Along the way, we found several "man you" Massage places (the ones that give that fake tongue service) , all for 238, same price as in the city center. In the interest of science, I did take a look at some of the attendents and ask about the details of their service, and most of them seemed quite attractive, majority from Wenzhou, and generally thrilled that someone was there on a Tuesday afternoon. I've had mixed experiences with the Wenzhou ones, even though they tend to be quite attractive, so continued exploring.

This area is quite residential and very local, though settled and pretty modern with some new developments. There's a fairly even split of BBS's, normal Massage Joints, and OM's, all within walking distance. I was getting too picky and my friend was past drunk when we finally got to one place with a bright, gorgeous yellow sign. At the door was this naughty looking thing with freshly painted chocolate colored nails and a bright smile. Friend was ready to jump in but I had to cut in line. Took her by the hand and she led me upstairs. 238,"man you".

She's from Sichuan, speaks no english, and been in Shanghai for an unashamed 2 years. The massge itself was fantastic, with her really knowing how to work the different zones, as well as work her own body. She allowed and assisted roaming, and even blushed when I offered to remove her bra before she used her very capable tits on me. So I continued to roand to my delight she was freshly shaved. This is something that's not too common for massage places, and all to scarce in China, and she just giggled and said she's a bit scared of the hair growing back too rough. At that point I had to prop her up on the table and get a better feel for the little cat, and she loved the attention. What followed was mutually enjoyable and judging by her eagerness to guide me, she did help me get her off, which I quite appreciated.

As I went to pay, mamasan gave me a coupon for 28 rmb off and informed me my friend had stumbled out. Turns out he was at the place next door, also 238, although he went slightly overtime and didn't seem too pleased as he left.

Happy hunting gentlement and don't be afraid to search for diamonds in the rough.[/QUOTE]

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First of all, kudos to Golly. What a great sequence of posts!

So I followed the recommendation of my buddy GregoryB and arranged an outcall with Beverly Jones (you can find her on the link provided by ShanghaiGuide).

GregB, you sick bastard! .

She arrives as this little tiny girl, small lips, small face. Then, she turns herself into a crazy nymph!

Nice body, very slim (and I don't like them that slim, but she was great) , and amazing skills and passion! Of course you can feel the professionalism, but she does a great job to make you feel good, and doesn't rush you.

I only had energy for one pop, cause I had another one earlier, but it was great, a lot of energy and enthusiasm.

Definitely a keeper!

Thanks Greg. You have my respect! .

Cheers,

Saulo

Glad it worked out.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1377149]First of all, kudos to Golly. What a great sequence of posts!

So I followed the recommendation of my buddy GregoryB and arranged an outcall with Beverly Jones (you can find her on the link provided by ShanghaiGuide).

GregB, you sick bastard! .

She arrives as this little tiny girl, small lips, small face. Then, she turns herself into a crazy nymph!

Nice body, very slim (and I don't like them that slim, but she was great) , and amazing skills and passion! Of course you can feel the professionalism, but she does a great job to make you feel good, and doesn't rush you.

I only had energy for one pop, cause I had another one earlier, but it was great, a lot of energy and enthusiasm.

Definitely a keeper!

Thanks Greg. You have my respect! .

Cheers,

Saulo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai;1377037]Hi thanks for this report! Do you have street names / intersections for the BBS and the yellow massage spot? I'm at jiaoda quite a bit and I often eat at DongChuan Lu and Humin Lu but have yet to seen the massage places.[/QUOTE]Just go down DongChuan lu, past the Achan. It's mostly the strip between that supermaket and JianPing lu subway station.

"She turned out to be a terrific find and did every position I know of and was alot of fun. Something interesting is when I blew in the condom, she went down and sucked the condom end playing with it for awhile."

Sounds like the same I had on my last trip to Shanghai. Same province and same deal after I blew, it surprised me so much that I still remember it. Did she ask for music?

BP

[QUOTE=Golly Woggle; 1376220]I'm not clear on the rules for posting QQ numbers, so I'll play it safe and leave it to a PM for those that want. If I'm allowed, let me know and I'll edit this post.

For now I'll just say her name is 911mm. Ya, I know, WTF? Trust me, this girl is awesome. You should be able to find her on QQ with that name.[/QUOTE]Mr Golly, her QQ is the one that finished in "464"? There is like 16 different numbers, someones redirecting to a another ones.

I search for her in Chinese forums and found some nice reviews.

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1378036]Mr Golly, her QQ is the one that finished in "464"? There is like 16 different numbers, someones redirecting to a another ones.

I search for her in Chinese forums and found some nice reviews.[/QUOTE]Landa, which Chinese forum did you search? Please share.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1368679]As long as I know, also Hai Lang (New Wave) will still offer a nuru massage. Definitly you can get it in the Jun Hao Club (I got one 4 weeks ago there). And they also have a funny selection area for the girls. They don`t provide a fishbowl, but a stage, where the girls try to do a "catwalk". Very funny!

Adress you can find here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url][/QUOTE]Just returned from my Shanghai trip. Jun Hao Club was an excellent recommondation. I visited the place twice and can only recommend this club. Excellent selection of real cuties with nice bodies and curves. I selected number 303 the second I do not remember anymore, but was even better. They start with a washing you followed by a soapy body to body massage and I could touch them all over. Unfortunately no Nuru massage.

Then the second part follows, with cat bath, very sensual massage followed my BJ until you want to proceed to the third part. We started slow, now rush and not just I also she got horny. She was completly wet. Suddenly she took my little friend and I could feel she wanted to penetrated. Without rush we continued in various positions until I came. She pressed my body against her's and kissed me. Was a real GFE, not just this fake moaning what I do not like at all.

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name: lucy.

age: 24 years old.

height: 5'6" (168-169cm)

incall / outcall: both.

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i will give you relaxation and personal massage service at your home and hotel. erogenous zones of the body are stimulated; starting with a relaxing soothing massage session. this special massage is meant to please the mind and awaken the body's senses. sensual tantric massage provides a healing, yet heightening experience of euphoria; a wonderful relaxing experience awaits you! i truly believe in the benefits of massage for health and well being. 24 hours outcall service: [blue][telephone number deleted by admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=ChinaEscorts; 1379042]City: Shanghai.

Name: Lucy.

Age: 24 years old.

Height: 5'6" (168-169cm)

Incall / Outcall: Both.

[blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

[/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Wow, Sayaka Ando is hooking in SH? Amazing (LOL)! PS- ads belong in the Classifieds section, fake photos don't belong anywhere.

[QUOTE=Bluejay55;1378317]Landa, which Chinese forum did you search? Please share.[/QUOTE]Shyxq and aishedes ([url]http://www.aishedes.com/thread-44480-1-1.html[/url])

Still no luck finding her.

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1373554]Hi Vivy.

A girl in Classifieds "Beverly" you will find her if you go back some ads. She also gives her website (picture are real).

1500RMB per 2hrs but great I did see her often. In "Shanghai-nightlife-guide" (google it) you will find more and real reviews (read them critical of course).

Have fun and of course share it here,

Gregory.[/QUOTE]Mmmmm it did sound good but then I saw her age (25) and her pictures (looks more like 35) and I become cautious.

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog; 1376237]Johnny. Thanks for sharing and sorry you went through that. I just wanted to add my 2 RMB and say that it's not just in Shanghai. There are also some very frightening stories about touts in the Shinjuku area in Tokyo where mongers have become "ill" after consuming some of the drinks provided in a tout-directed bar and / or being given a bar bill that is totally outrageous. And this is only with the girls sitting with them, not even sitting ON them.

Stay safe.

LD[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experiences as well. It's not about me. But the lesson to be learned. I guess sometimes you can get too comfortable. Nothing happened before, but it always could. Remember David Carradine in Bangkok. He must have really pissed somebody off...And he was a black belt. It could be a girl that slips something in your drink. Or smears a drug on her tits so that when you lick them you get the sleep induced drug that way and they rob you silly. You just never know.

Again. Not about me, but for those who like to hear the end of a story, I remained calm, respectful, and of course didn't carry a lot of cash on me. And no credit cards with high limits. I had the fun of f*kg the girl in the KTV room, then the stress of this scam. But in the end I didn't have the cash or credit so they let me leave. Even handing me back 150 rmb as he said."I feel bad for you. You are a poor man". Lucky break. Learned my lesson. And it cost less than a good sauna. 8 lives left for this wild cat!!

I contacted her through QQ and she seems nice but wants too money for me.

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1379718]Shyxq and aishedes (

[url]http://www.aishedes.com/thread-44480-1-1.html[/url]

)

Still no luck finding her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas; 1379992]Thanks for sharing your experiences as well. It's not about me. But the lesson to be learned. I guess sometimes you can get too comfortable. Nothing happened before, but it always could. Remember David Carradine in Bangkok. He must have really pissed somebody off. And he was a black belt. It could be a girl that slips something in your drink. Or smears a drug on her tits so that when you lick them you get the sleep induced drug that way and they rob you silly. You just never know.

Again. Not about me, but for those who like to hear the end of a story, I remained calm, respectful, and of course didn't carry a lot of cash on me. And no credit cards with high limits. I had the fun of f*kg the girl in the KTV room, then the stress of this scam. But in the end I didn't have the cash or credit so they let me leave. Even handing me back 150 rmb as he said."I feel bad for you. You are a poor man". Lucky break. Learned my lesson. And it cost less than a good sauna. 8 lives left for this wild cat![/QUOTE]As they say, good judgement comes from experience. And experience comes from bad judgement. I am very glad that you had a very favorable outcome. It sounds like as frightening as it was, those people were actually very "kind", in a way, to teach you a lesson relatively painlessly when they could have done a whole lot worse. Use your remaining 8 lives very carefully!

LD

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1378036]Mr Golly, her QQ is the one that finished in "464"? There is like 16 different numbers, someones redirecting to a another ones.

I search for her in Chinese forums and found some nice reviews.[/QUOTE]Ya her QQ ends in those numbers.

Stopped by Hailang Leisure Club a few weeks ago in early December. Granted I haven't been to many places in China, but seemed to be one of the more sophisticated setups I've experienced.

Google the name and the correct location shows up on a map. Took the metro and wasn't sure if I was in the right place initially as the building with the pink lights was right next to a LE station. Building looked about 4 stories tall. There was what appeared to be an officer outside who even pointed me to the entrance, so likely someone is being paid off in some fashion.

Walked inside around 4:30 in the afternoon and greeted by an attendant."Massage?" and points to a sign that shows the price (880 for 90 minutes). That matched what I expected, so I went with it, got handed off to another attendant who leads me to a locker room with some clothes to change into. After that, I'm led up a flight of stairs, into an elevator, handed off to someone else. I think we move 2 floors in the elevator. From there I'm handed off to another attendant, down another hallway, and into another elevator with another attendant.

Now I'm on a different floor again, led out of the elevator, down a hallway, and finally to the fishtank with the attendant there. Probably about 20 girls or so. Given I speak very minimal Mandarin, he points out the only girl who speaks ok English. She's also reasonably attractive so I go with here.

From there, she leads me into the room and asks if I want a second girl (400 extra) , I pass given it's my first time there. The facilities at this place are really great, cleaner than most 4-star hotel rooms.

The room has the shower / soapy bed section along with the bedroom with a TV playing some random porno. The soapy massage from the girl, I forgot her number, was pretty good. Everything I would expect. After awhile we move to the bed. She does this interesting "suctioning" massage where we swallows some hot water / mouth wash and then "kisses" my back letting just a tiny bit of the water out with each kiss. That's a really poor description, but what it felt like. Then she goes with more BBBJ.

I ask about the red-rope, since I can clearly see where she can hang it from. So then she moves to the upside-down helicopter BBBJ which I had never had before. Fun for sure, but sounds a lot better than it was, not that it was bad. Then CFS (cowgirl first, finish with mish). After that we still have more time, but I am tired, so I just ask for a massage. After awhile we go back to shower together and then the time is up.

But then the craziest part is near the end of being led out through a similar labyrinth out of the place, there are about *20* female+male attendants who are standing around and *bow* to me on the way out, before I get to the locker room. I almost felt like I was some royal customer or something. I could understand someone bowing, it is asia aferall, but what are so many employees doing, standing around, to greet someone leaving? It was all quite weird but very interesting at the same time.

Total damage: 880 RMB.

Time: 90 minutes.

Services: soapy massage, BBBJ, red-rope BBBJ, CFS, massage.

Hailang is a little on the pricier side, but the facilities are amazing and they also have the red-rope (+soapy) which I recommend trying at least once.

I had a fun time! Also this seems like it would be safe from raids as someone must know what's going on as myself, a laowai, was directed by LE into the establishment! But who knows really?

I have always stayed in Puxi, but am now going to be staying at the Intercontinental on Pudong side. Any close by AMPs or saunas? Otherplace of uinterest you can share? It would be appreciated.

Where abouts is it when you're at the Holiday Inn?

It makes a big difference! The old one is in great mongering territory. The other is in not in a good place but not a far taxi ride from some things.

[QUOTE=Money11;1382460]I have always stayed in Puxi, but am now going to be staying at the Intercontinental on Pudong side. Any close by AMPs or saunas? Otherplace of uinterest you can share? It would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1382737]It makes a big difference! The old one is in great mongering territory. The other is in not in a good place but not a far taxi ride from some things.[/QUOTE]I will be at the Zhangyang Road location. Thanks for yor prompt reply, I leave this weekend and look forward to any tips. I will report out my results.

[QUOTE=Money11;1382460]I have always stayed in Puxi, but am now going to be staying at the Intercontinental on Pudong side. Any close by AMPs or saunas? Otherplace of uinterest you can share? It would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Go to the MP at the Merrilyn hotel across the street from the InterContinental. FS for RMB 688, if I recall. Plenty of choices.

[QUOTE=HeavyFuel;1382787]Go to the MP at the Merrilyn hotel across the street from the InterContinental. FS for RMB 688, if I recall. Plenty of choices.[/QUOTE]3rd floor 880rmb now.

Also 2 blocks from sacrosa

Shanghai is quiet this time, hard to find a decent girl to play. Bbs are empty and girl's gone.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1382865]Shanghai is quiet this time, hard to find a decent girl to play. Bbs are empty and girl's gone.[/QUOTE]Typical for Chinese New Year.

[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1382865]Shanghai is quiet this time, hard to find a decent girl to play. Bbs are empty and girl's gone.[/QUOTE]Saunas and outcall services are still my favorites, good ones can still be found even around Chinese New Year time. I've had my share of fun but this one is a definite standout. Her name is Gao Gao from unforgettableshanghai. Blog. Com. Young, pretty, good figure, AND excellent service. Usually those words don't go together. Only downside is she speaks only little English. If that doesn't bother you, this one is definitely worth trying, no BS. If she's not available, Na Na isn't bad either. I promised mamasan to write a review only for great time, and it was.

If have been mongering for a long time and considered myself street smart enough not to get into trouble, but a few weeks back reasoning seems to have left me, that got me into trouble, so I wanted to warn my fellow mongers.

I was approached outside of my hotel by a local to meet a nice girl for very little money (first sign of trouble ignored). For a small fee of just 20 rbm he would take me to the place and if I don't like it I am welcome to leave. I was close to the Bund and walking east we came to the place that on the outside looked like a KTV. Inside they gave me a line up and I made my selection, the agreed price was 300 rmb. After we where done, which was quick, the Mamasan show up as I want to leave to present me with a bill for 2000 rmb for the room. Since I was not inclined to pay she then called the manager who show up with three goons trying to intimidate me.

Now I am not easily intimidated and was not about to give in to their demands, but this discussion went on for quite a while and the three goons even tried to assault me. Only after two of them ended up on the floor did we come to an agreement that I paid a couple hundred rmb and left the premises.

Now if one is not inclined to start a nice brawl and willing to take a few punches, this could be very intimidating. In retrospect it is also stupid, since you never know how many more are there.

At any rate, I suggest you decline any such offers should you come across them.

Happy trails!

Myself and 2 business associates are traveling to Shanghi for the first time in a few weeks on business and I am looking for some up to date recommendations on hotels, decent areas to stay in and top monger spots.

Hotels. We are looking for something located in an area with nightlife, that is WG friendly that will not break the budget.

Areas of town to visit. Any suggestions?

Areas of town to stay away from?

Spots you just shouldn't miss. What are your top spots for mongering as well as normal nightlife.

Expected costs. Low end, average, and high end. We do tend to look for overnighters from time to time as well.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Telemon;1383380]Myself and 2 business associates are traveling to Shanghi for the first time in a few weeks on business and I am looking for some up to date recommendations on hotels, decent areas to stay in and top monger spots.Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]A few weeks will be sufficient for you to RTFF and get not only bearing but lots of information, suggestions, prices. It has been all written here. Already.

I appreciate your response but it really did't answer the question. I did as for "up to date" information and relevant personal opinions, not those that are 5 years old.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1383397]A few weeks will be sufficient for you to RTFF and get not only bearing but lots of information, suggestions, prices. It has been all written here. Already.[/QUOTE]

Went to Bodi on Tuesday around 5; 30pm. What a madhouse. Punters waiting in every corner for the few girls available. Waited nearly an hour for small but decent line up. Went with 608. Sweet 24 year old that looks 20 years old from Dong Bei. Amazing oral. Petite girl. Small breasts but the nips were almost pink and puffy. Lovely round little booty too.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1383449]Went to Bodi on Tuesday around 5; 30pm. What a madhouse. Punters waiting in every corner for the few girls available. Waited nearly an hour for small but decent line up.[/QUOTE]Check out the Jun Hao Club. Not so busy and the lineup will be a (funny) catwalk on stage.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

I had a good session there some weeks ago. They also offer a Nuru Massage.

Enjoy Shanghai

But I will stick with the Pudong scene.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1383580]Check out the Jun Hao Club. Not so busy and the lineup will be a (funny) catwalk on stage.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

I had a good session there some weeks ago. They also offer a Nuru Massage.

Enjoy Shanghai[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1383449]Went to Bodi on Tuesday around 5; 30pm. What a madhouse. Punters waiting in every corner for the few girls available. Waited nearly an hour for small but decent line up. Went with 608. Sweet 24 year old that looks 20 years old from Dong Bei. Amazing oral. Petite girl. Small breasts but the nips were almost pink and puffy. Lovely round little booty too.[/QUOTE]Was there 2 months ago on a week day around 8PM (worst time to be there). Waited more than an hour to get a girl and another 30 min. For a room. Girl was nice but somewhat rushed, because she knew guys are waiting in line outside. Will definitely cross this one out of my list.

It is really a matter of timing. I have been there before with no wait and a line up of 40 girls.

[QUOTE=Viajando Musico;1383698]Was there 2 months ago on a week day around 8PM (worst time to be there). Waited more than an hour to get a girl and another 30 min. For a room. Girl was nice but somewhat rushed, because she knew guys are waiting in line outside. Will definitely cross this one out of my list.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1383760]It is really a matter of timing. I have been there before with no wait and a line up of 40 girls.[/QUOTE]Go there on a weekday at 1:30 PM.

[QUOTE=Anonymous All;1383124]Her name is Gao Gao from unforgettableshanghai. Blog. Com. Young, pretty, good figure, AND excellent service. Usually those words don't go together. Only downside is she speaks only little English. If that doesn't bother you, this one is definitely worth trying, no BS. If she's not available, Na Na isn't bad either. I promised mamasan to write a review only for great time, and it was.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, the girls look nice.

However, while it sounds like you really like that place considering the amount of posts you wrote about this agent, it sounds like you are the only one. Is there anybody else who could confirm?

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Telemon;1383415]I appreciate your response but it really did't answer the question. I did as for "up to date" information and relevant personal opinions, not those that are 5 years old.[/QUOTE]Even if I totally agree that before just asking you should RTFF (we are not your personal mongering assistants) its totally true that RTFF here is a nonsense. Unless you know what you are looking for and use the search function (which totally sucks) the only option is to read the last X pages till you find what you want.

I am not sure if its possible to have a subsection inside SHA section with updated post about each location we all know. Easy. Clean. Useful. If some of you like the idea I can create the index myself, add some info and then we all can contribute.

Telemon, search for places like Bodi, Sacrosa, Feng Ding, Manhatan, Judys, or streets like Anyuan, Changping. Good luck with the search feature. I am sure you will love it.

[quote=timer1963; 1383297]if have been mongering for a long time and considered myself street smart enough not to get into trouble, but a few weeks back reasoning seems to have left me, that got me into trouble, so i wanted to warn my fellow mongers.

i was approached outside of my hotel by a local to meet a nice girl for very little money (first sign of trouble ignored). for a small fee of just 20 rbm he would take me to the place and if i don't like it i am welcome to leave. i was close to the bund and walking east we came to the place that on the outside looked like a ktv. inside they gave me a line up and i made my selection, the agreed price was 300 rmb. after we where done, which was quick, the mamasan show up as i want to leave to present me with a bill for 2000 rmb for the room. since i was not inclined to pay she then called the manager who show up with three goons trying to intimidate me.

now i am not easily intimidated and was not about to give in to their demands, but this discussion went on for quite a while and the three goons even tried to assault me. only after two of them ended up on the floor did we come to an agreement that i paid a couple hundred rmb and left the premises.

now if one is not inclined to start a nice brawl and willing to take a few punches, this could be very intimidating. in retrospect it is also stupid, since you never know how many more are there.

at any rate, i suggest you decline any such offers should you come across them.

happy trails![/quote]timer. you should read johnnyvegas' experience several pages back. i'm glad that you got out relatively unrep001hed. be careful out there.

ld

On my last visit to SH I went to a massage shop near Eton hotel where the girl offered me a HJ for a "tip" of 500 RMB (already reported this earlier.)

I thought that was outrageous, but it was topped last week. I stayed in Crowne Plaza near Century Park and called one of the hotel's massage girls for a traditional Chinese push massage, which was already 380 RMB. Soon she tried to upsell to an oil massage for about 480. That were the standard prices on the menu.

During the massage, she asked a lot of awkward questions like how much money I make, how much my watch had cost, and whether she should look for a girl friend for me. Eventually she offered me a HJ for 1000 RMB. Even in Germany I'd get a Thai massage including FS for that price. After I refused repeatedly, she lowered her offer to 700, and finally she told me that the 700 were not the total price for oil massage + HJ, but 480 for the massage plus 700 for the HJ. Naturally I declined and she left my room unhappy. Poor girl.

I speak enough Mandarin that she should have noticed that I'm a little familiar with China.

Anyway I didn't bother as the night before (and the night after) I was visited by my Shanghainese freebie.

Anybody know the current location for red rope services in Shanghai? They used to offer it at the Shanghai Hotel, but I've read they stopped offering that kind of service. Any changes in that policy now there?

Hi dude. Hi fellas.

Several weeks I did not write here, just busy life.

So, I was invited from Chinese dude (workmate and big boss) to have a fun in KTV. We arrived in a place were I already was. The mom know me (I was there for a be-day with a Chinese friend really powerful). We chose in a line of 12 girls. I pick up the one that smile me with eyes. 2 hours fun, play drink sing. Kiss touch and so on. In front of this KTV there is an hotel and the mom and girl push me to go in the room. I m in shanghai already 8 years, but I was fucking scared about the report of our friend. My friend (local) told me don t worry, so I run there. Wow hotel really cool. The girl. Amazing. 21 yrs old of hunan. After 1and half hour we were back in KTV.

Big boss already gone. 2 security and mom with one of my friend waiting me. I was thinking ok dude you are fucked up!

Nope! Just asking if I was happy. Yes 2 shoot and shower.

Total bill (on my boss) 15000 rmb all included. I gave the mom 500 tips and same to the girl.

I saw her again the day after.

So KTV are good for forainers if with the right local friend I guess

[QUOTE=MassageFanBoy;1384880]Anybody know the current location for red rope services in Shanghai? They used to offer it at the Shanghai Hotel, but I've read they stopped offering that kind of service. Any changes in that policy now there?[/QUOTE]If you browse a few pages back and use the search option you wll find a recent report about another establishemnt offering red rope

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1385147]If you browse a few pages back and use the search option you wll find a recent report about another establishemnt offering red rope[/QUOTE]Ah yes I've read that one. It seems the only place left is the Hai Lang joint. No other places around anymore?

[QUOTE=MassageFanBoy;1384880]Anybody know the current location for red rope services in Shanghai? They used to offer it at the Shanghai Hotel, but I've read they stopped offering that kind of service. Any changes in that policy now there?[/QUOTE]MassagefanBoy,

The Shanghai hotel have the best Red Rope serivce that I ever have but no more since 2003, the city don't allow it anymore there are city like Chongqing and Zhu Hai that still have the service, I have Red rope a few time the last few yr in Zhu Hai but the service is not very good you should do some RTFF at the ZH report.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1385333]MassagefanBoy,

The Shanghai hotel have the best Red Rope serivce that I ever have but no more since 2003, the city don't allow it anymore there are city like Chongqing and Zhu Hai that still have the service, I have Red rope a few time the last few yr in Zhu Hai but the service is not very good you should do some RTFF at the ZH report.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]The city doesn't allow it? LOL

[QUOTE=Osuul;1385443]The city doesn't allow it? LOL[/QUOTE]My last red rope in shanghai hotel was in 2009 or 2010, few time before they close. My good friend told me there is a sauna in nandan road. I m try to keep more details for share here.

I recently came across City of Love website. Does anyone know if the independent girls are fake or genuine?

[QUOTE=Straffman;1385567]I recently came across City of Love website. Does anyone know if the independent girls are fake or genuine?[/QUOTE]All the images are fake, however the girls claim that they are similar to the actual person, if the girl who turns up is not to your liking then send her away, if she looks doable then do her, I should say that there have been numerous comments in the forum that the most beautiful girls have the worst performance.

Do you mean the locals forum Love Shanghai? Share the link.

[QUOTE=Straffman;1385567]I recently came across City of Love website. Does anyone know if the independent girls are fake or genuine?[/QUOTE]

The website is [url]www.cityoflove.com[/url]

Here is the link [url]http://www.cityoflove.com/EN/china/shanghai/independent.aspx?page=3[/url]

I wondered if they were really independent or from agencies. There are several pages

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1385814]Do you mean the locals forum Love Shanghai? Share the link.[/QUOTE]I guess he ist talking about cityoflove. Com. They have a huge section for Shanghai girls, but to answer the question if the girls are fake or genuine: Definitly FAKE!

A easy picture check with google will show, that (almost) all pictures are from different erotic star profiles. Last year we contacted all the girls on that page to find some real independent girls for our page, and only 4 of the girls profiles did not belong to agencies, so here at least the girls profiles are real (description and so on) , but this girls also did not use real pictures. So first nearly no chance to date the girl from the pictures and less than 2% chance (I guess) to date a girl near to the description.

Am I the only one annoyed with this guy's thinly veiled excuse for advertisements to his overly priced website of information mostly sourced from ISG?

So what's the go? Write a short comment, guide people to your website and only provide the address if payment is forthcoming?

Dude, move your shit to the correct forum.

The address of the sauna he is talking about is 1733 lianhua road near yishan Road.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1383580]Check out the Jun Hao Club. Not so busy and the lineup will be a (funny) catwalk on stage.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

I had a good session there some weeks ago. They also offer a Nuru Massage.

Enjoy Shanghai[/QUOTE]

Ha ha and now trying to protect his interests from competitors.

Transparent.

Cut the bullshit dude and stop pretending to be all helpful and sharing when all your doing is making money from suckers.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1385927]I guess he ist talking about cityoflove. Com. They have a huge section for Shanghai girls, but to answer the question if the girls are fake or genuine: Definitly FAKE!

A easy picture check with google will show, that (almost) all pictures are from different erotic star profiles. Last year we contacted all the girls on that page to find some real independent girls for our page, and only 4 of the girls profiles did not belong to agencies, so here at least the girls profiles are real (description and so on) , but this girls also did not use real pictures. So first nearly no chance to date the girl from the pictures and less than 2% chance (I guess) to date a girl near to the description.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blacklisted; 1385978]Am I the only one annoyed with this guy's thinly veiled excuse for advertisements to his overly priced website of information mostly sourced from ISG?

So what's the go? Write a short comment, guide people to your website and only provide the address if payment is forthcoming?

Dude, move your shit to the correct forum.

The address of the sauna he is talking about is 1733 lianhua road near yishan Road.[/QUOTE]If you follow the link, you will see the detailed adress and even a description how to find!

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

The adress of this sauna is not hidden (and never was hidden) , so anyone can read it for free!

And you will not find any of my post with a link to a information, you have to pay for! Nearly all information
on our page is for free, only for access to all the Sauna adresses, you have to pay € 19,90 for 3 month.
This forum also charge 20$, if you want to use private messages, so what`s the problem?

[QUOTE=Blacklisted; 1385980]Ha ha and now trying to protect his interests from competitors.

Transparent.

Cut the bullshit dude and stop pretending to be all helpful and sharing when all your doing is making money from suckers.[/QUOTE]If you think, my comment is not trustfull and usefull, than please please give us some of the real profiles you found on this page:

[url]http://www.cityoflove.com/EN/China/Shanghai/default.aspx[/url]

Than everyone will know my comment was only for defame a competitor. And on the other side, I am sure, everyone will be very happy for the information about real girls profiles. This would be what user "Straffman" asked for.

From reading all the reports on this forum, I decided to try out the two 'top-rated' joints of different nature: a pick up bar (Manhatten) and Hai Lang (mid-top tier sauna, similar to Macau saunas).

Manhatten

As soon as I entered this place I knew the vibe was not for me. Now I'm aware and respect the fact that most of the forum goers here are foreigners, but as a relatively young Asian, the market here is totally out of line to what I'm looking for. Notwithstanding the fact that it is populated by non-Chinese, older females with average looks, the oversized boobs and bottoms are a total turn off for me. Additionally, the girls generally ignore Asians, especially the young looking ones. So if you're in the same boat as me, avoid this place. (I don't doubt that this place would be appealing to others with different taste, tho!)

Hai Lang.

I came to this place 3 years ago but was denied access. This time I walked in no problem. It's on Zhongshan west road, if you're not sure.

Walked in, got changed and asked to go straight upstairs. I strongly recommend you avoid the rest area, as the massage girls there try very hard to upswell additional services.

Fishbowl had 10 or so to choose from (1:30pm on a Wednesday arvo). Mostly mediocre, one or two passable nothing stood out. Asked manager which was the best service, and as expected, was guided to The ugliest of the ducklings. I went with the okay looking one with at least a neutral expression (most of them looked like they were facing a firing squad)

The girl had average looks but an amazing body. Built a very good connection with her whilst showering / nuru massaging, which led the path to an absolute GFE on the bed. There was genuine DFK. 69 (I don't think she usually allows it) , rimming, and finish with CIM. She gave me her weixin and already agreed to come out have a drink at some stage.

Although a good experience, but I think it is largely dependent on the chemistry between you and the girl. The joint is mostly irrelevant.

Will definitely try out some other places during my 2 more weeks of stay here.

Oh and the manager at one of the saunas told me that all the girls should be back by today and tomorrow, so happy punting everyone!

Yeah, I feel the same vibe from Manhatten and Judy's because it's tailor towards the foreigners. The asian look turns off the girls because they have a bad impress of the Chinese locals, but money talks.

The saunas are lacking the girls because of CNY, but most of them are returning the next few days. If you are looking for more selection, check out the other established by the same owners.

[B]Establishments[/B]

Puxi Area.

Xin Yuping.

Hong Song.

Hai Lang.

Pudong Area.

Siyuan.

Bodi

[B]Price[/B]

RMB 880 for Xin Yuping.

RMB 980 for Hong Song Sauna.

RMB 880 Hai Lang.

[B]Line Up Average (Time will also vary) [/B]

Xin Yuping 40+

Hong Song 70+

Hai Lang 20+

Siyuan 20+

Bodi +30.

[B]Address[/B]

PM.

[B]Ranking (Subjective) [/B]

1. Hong Song.

2. Xin Yuping.

3. Bodi.

4. Siyuan.

5. Hai Lang.

[B]Facilities[/B]

All relatively nice and clean, except Hai Lang is more outdated and aged compare to the others.

[B]Time Allocation[/B]

All 60 minutes except Siyuan, which is 70 minutes.

[B]Membership Card[/B]

RMB 100.

All establishment will ask to sign up for membership card and they won't waive it if the business is good, but Siyuan won't ask because their client base isn't established. I usually let them know I go to their other establishments and slowly walk away. That usually seals the deal and access is granted. I also grab the business card afterwards for future persuasions.

It really doesn't matter where you go because its all comes down to finding the right gem, which is just based on some luck and instincts, but it's obviously a better chance if there are more girl selection. One of the girls told me at Hong Song that they have on average 100+ girls working on a given day and she joked about not everybody fitting in the fishbowl. My ranking is based on my own personal experience and I recently went to all of them except Bodi and Hai Lang. My personal rating of the girls on average in these establish ranges from 5s. 8s and rare 9s. The higher the ranking, the more consistent of the 8s. *Yeah I'm kind of picking.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sinserity; 1386214]From reading all the reports on this forum, I decided to try out the two 'top-rated' joints of different nature: a pick up bar (Manhatten) and Hai Lang (mid-top tier sauna, similar to Macau saunas).

Manhatten

As soon as I entered this place I knew the vibe was not for me. Now I'm aware and respect the fact that most of the forum goers here are foreigners, but as a relatively young Asian, the market here is totally out of line to what I'm looking for. Notwithstanding the fact that it is populated by non-Chinese, older females with average looks, the oversized boobs and bottoms are a total turn off for me. Additionally, the girls generally ignore Asians, especially the young looking ones. So if you're in the same boat as me, avoid this place. (I don't doubt that this place would be appealing to others with different taste, tho!)

Hai Lang.

I came to this place 3 years ago but was denied access. This time I walked in no problem. It's on Zhongshan west road, if you're not sure.

Walked in, got changed and asked to go straight upstairs. I strongly recommend you avoid the rest area, as the massage girls there try very hard to upswell additional services.

Fishbowl had 10 or so to choose from (1:30pm on a Wednesday arvo). Mostly mediocre, one or two passable nothing stood out. Asked manager which was the best service, and as expected, was guided to The ugliest of the ducklings. I went with the okay looking one with at least a neutral expression (most of them looked like they were facing a firing squad)

The girl had average looks but an amazing body. Built a very good connection with her whilst showering / nuru massaging, which led the path to an absolute GFE on the bed. There was genuine DFK. 69 (I don't think she usually allows it) , rimming, and finish with CIM. She gave me her weixin and already agreed to come out have a drink at some stage.

Although a good experience, but I think it is largely dependent on the chemistry between you and the girl. The joint is mostly irrelevant.

Will definitely try out some other places during my 2 more weeks of stay here.

Oh and the manager at one of the saunas told me that all the girls should be back by today and tomorrow, so happy punting everyone![/QUOTE]

Yes, you say how great a particular sauna is, then direct people to your website rather than sharing on the board in order to make money from punters. That is what the problem is.

And that, my friend, IS the very definition of advertising and those types of posts leading to your website should be placed in the appropriate section of ISG The classifieds.

Otherwise, you are just wasting our time.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1386008]If you follow the link, you will see the detailed adress and even a description how to find!

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

The adress of this sauna is not hidden (and never was hidden) , so anyone can read it for free!

And you will not find any of my post with a link to a information, you have to pay for! Nearly all information.

On our page is for free, only for access to all the Sauna adresses, you have to pay € 19, 90 for 3 month.

This forum also charge 20$, if you want to use private messages, so what`s the problem?[/QUOTE]

Sorry forgot to put price on the others. They're also RMB 880.

[QUOTE=Howdy1234; 1386319]Yeah, I feel the same vibe from Manhatten and Judy's because it's tailor towards the foreigners. The asian look turns off the girls because they have a bad impress of the Chinese locals, but money talks.

The saunas are lacking the girls because of CNY, but most of them are returning the next few days. If you are looking for more selection, check out the other established by the same owners.

[B]Establishments[/B]

Puxi Area.

Xin Yuping.

Hong Song.

Hai Lang.

Pudong Area.

Siyuan.

Bodi

[B]Price[/B]

RMB 880 for Xin Yuping.

RMB 980 for Hong Song Sauna.

RMB 880 Hai Lang.

[B]Line Up Average (Time will also vary) [/B]

Xin Yuping 40+

Hong Song 70+

Hai Lang 20+

Siyuan 20+

Bodi +30.

[B]Address[/B]

PM.

[B]Ranking (Subjective) [/B]

1. Hong Song.

2. Xin Yuping.

3. Bodi.

4. Siyuan.

5. Hai Lang.

[B]Facilities[/B]

All relatively nice and clean, except Hai Lang is more outdated and aged compare to the others.

[B]Time Allocation[/B]

All 60 minutes except Siyuan, which is 70 minutes.

[B]Membership Card[/B]

RMB 100.

All establishment will ask to sign up for membership card and they won't waive it if the business is good, but Siyuan won't ask because their client base isn't established. I usually let them know I go to their other establishments and slowly walk away. That usually seals the deal and access is granted. I also grab the business card afterwards for future persuasions.

It really doesn't matter where you go because its all comes down to finding the right gem, which is just based on some luck and instincts, but it's obviously a better chance if there are more girl selection. One of the girls told me at Hong Song that they have on average 100+ girls working on a given day and she joked about not everybody fitting in the fishbowl. My ranking is based on my own personal experience and I recently went to all of them except Bodi and Hai Lang. My personal rating of the girls on average in these establish ranges from 5s. 8s and rare 9s. The higher the ranking, the more consistent of the 8s. *Yeah I'm kind of picking.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1386019]If you think, my comment is not trustfull and usefull, than please please give us some of the real profiles you found on this page:

[url]http://www.cityoflove.com/EN/China/Shanghai/default.aspx[/url]

Than everyone will know my comment was only for defame a competitor. And on the other side, I am sure, everyone will be very happy for the information about real girls profiles. This would be what user "Straffman" asked for.[/QUOTE]I just would like to say that the girls I met from Shanghai Guides page were all great, and I had absolutely no issues, and enjoyed the experience. It is a great work you do, dude.

Cheers,

Sauro

I can only second Sauro: The one I like best is Beverly second to none, but Cindy is also great.

The Beijing Version though is not really of any value.

Keep going and improve the Beijing site.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1386797]I just would like to say that the girls I met from Shanghai Guides page were all great, and I had absolutely no issues, and enjoyed the experience. It is a great work you do, dude.

Cheers,

Sauro[/QUOTE]

Today visited a massage shop on Dagu Road, a few doors down from the only Danish restaurant in Shanghai. Been to this shop three times before and always come away impressed, just wish it was a bit cheaper. My first two visits I was shown a standard menu, various treatments with or without oil. 60 or 90 minutes, ranging from 400 to 1, 000 RMB. I always go oil, just love it when a cute young Asian girls rubs oil all over my body! Always a HE on offer as an upsell, even though there are "no tipping" signs everywhere.

But my two most recent visits, as I wasted some time staring at the first menu, a second menu appears and the offer is much more interesting. Last time I took the "breast massage", it was great. I eventually got the girl naked, breathing pretty heavy, spun her onto the table for a little DATY. Today I allowed the mamasan to choose one of the selections, menu is mostly Chinese so I'm not exactly sure what I agreed to. Mamasan took me upstairs, passed-by about eight small rooms on the ground floor, so I was hopeful by climing the stairs there might be something more interesting going on upstairs. She showed me a small room, pointed out the shower and asked me to "wait a moment". I stipped, showered and about that time a very cute little spinner sprang into the room, seemed full of energy and personality. She didn't speak a word of English, and I can only order beer and wine in Chinese, but that didn't stop her from using words to express her emotions. She was happy and fun. She had me lay on my stomach, but did not place a towel on my buttocks, good so far! She sprinkled oil all over me, then very lightly used her fingertips to touch me head-to-toe, very exotic and erotic. Then she lowered the lights and stripped, at first I thought she was naked but later found she had on some small panties that matched her skin color. But while on my back she massaged me first with her nipples, then with her pussy, doing a great job of finding my tailbone with her pubis, and she seemed to be getting into it. Then she flipped me (and I noticed the panties) , jumped right on top of me and ground her pussy into my rock-hard penis. I had a double hand-full of cute little ass and worked her over, pulling her back-and-forth over my penis for several minutes. She was squealling and counted "one. Two. Three" as if she was cumming multiple times. I doubt it but really appreciate the effort and enthusiasm!

Lili has small but proportionate titties, she's about 4'10", great ass.

Massage was 480 RMB, I layed an additional 300 on the pillow before Lili and I left the room, right below another "no tipping" sign. She giggled with delight over the tip (yes, too much but I really enjoyed this).

I will try her again and hope for even more passion, try to get those panties off next time!

Forgot to describe the money shot! Little Lili oiled up her thighs, crouched between my legs, put my penis between her thighs and bounced up and down, skin slapping and sounding like the real thing. It was hot, but didn't get me off. So she layed next to me, scissored our legs, oiled behind one of her knees, placed my penis behind her leg, bent her leg and using her hand she bounced her leg up and down, and between her leg and hand and the up and down action it felt damn close to FS. I was able to squeeze that tight little ass, again just like the real thing, and after several minutes I blew my load. Once again she seemed genuinely thrilled that I came, so she stroked and squeezed the last few drops out of me, jabbering in Chinese the whole time. I've never had the thigh and bent leg treatment before, I highly recommend it! OK, that finishes my report.

Does anyone know any European escorts in Shanghai? Blondes preferably?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1387153]Forgot to describe the money shot! Little Lili oiled up her thighs, crouched between my legs, put my penis between her thighs and bounced up and down, skin slapping and sounding like the real thing. It was hot, but didn't get me off. So she layed next to me, scissored our legs, oiled behind one of her knees, placed my penis behind her leg, bent her leg and using her hand she bounced her leg up and down, and between her leg and hand and the up and down action it felt damn close to FS. I was able to squeeze that tight little ass, again just like the real thing, and after several minutes I blew my load. Once again she seemed genuinely thrilled that I came, so she stroked and squeezed the last few drops out of me, jabbering in Chinese the whole time. I've never had the thigh and bent leg treatment before, I highly recommend it! OK, that finishes my report.[/QUOTE]Hey there BushWhack, thanks for the report! Any chance you could give a little more information about the location? Cross street? Name of Danish Restaurant? Thanks again. Cheers

[QUOTE=BushWhack; 1387152]Today visited a massage shop on Dagu Road, a few doors down from the only Danish restaurant in Shanghai. Been to this shop three times before and always come away impressed, just wish it was a bit cheaper. My first two visits I was shown a standard menu, various treatments with or without oil. 60 or 90 minutes, ranging from 400 to 1, 000 RMB. I always go oil, just love it when a cute young Asian girls rubs oil all over my body! Always a HE on offer as an upsell, even though there are "no tipping" signs everywhere.

But my two most recent visits, as I wasted some time staring at the first menu, a second menu appears and the offer is much more interesting. Last time I took the "breast massage", it was great. I eventually got the girl naked, breathing pretty heavy, spun her onto the table for a little DATY. Today I allowed the mamasan to choose one of the selections, menu is mostly Chinese so I'm not exactly sure what I agreed to. Mamasan took me upstairs, passed-by about eight small rooms on the ground floor, so I was hopeful by climing the stairs there might be something more interesting going on upstairs. She showed me a small room, pointed out the shower and asked me to "wait a moment". I stipped, showered and about that time a very cute little spinner sprang into the room, seemed full of energy and personality. She didn't speak a word of English, and I can only order beer and wine in Chinese, but that didn't stop her from using words to express her emotions. She was happy and fun. She had me lay on my stomach, but did not place a towel on my buttocks, good so far! She sprinkled oil all over me, then very lightly used her fingertips to touch me head-to-toe, very exotic and erotic. Then she lowered the lights and stripped, at first I thought she was naked but later found she had on some small panties that matched her skin color. But while on my back she massaged me first with her nipples, then with her pussy, doing a great job of finding my tailbone with her pubis, and she seemed to be getting into it. Then she flipped me (and I noticed the panties) , jumped right on top of me and ground her pussy into my rock-hard penis. I had a double hand-full of cute little ass and worked her over, pulling her back-and-forth over my penis for several minutes. She was squealling and counted "one. Two. Three" as if she was cumming multiple times. I doubt it but really appreciate the effort and enthusiasm!

Lili has small but proportionate titties, she's about 4'10", great ass.

Massage was 480 RMB, I layed an additional 300 on the pillow before Lili and I left the room, right below another "no tipping" sign. She giggled with delight over the tip (yes, too much but I really enjoyed this).

I will try her again and hope for even more passion, try to get those panties off next time![/QUOTE]Do you like share more info? Like name of shop and so on?

Thanks

The BBS on this road have been mention before on the forum, here is my report and recommendations.

Fangcao Road is in Pudong starting at Hunan Road and continues east past Baiyang Road, very close to the Fanghua Road station on line 7.

I saw at least a dozen BBS, probably more. I was there Saturday Feb. 16 around 10 pm, so a couple of the BBS were still closed from the Chinese New Year.

Some BBS had only a couple girls, some had half a dozen. Again, there will be more girls once the Chinese New Year is fully completed.

I spotted a nice looking tall girl in her 20's and walked in. Fair skin, height maybe 5'6" without heels, slim build but nice solid C cups, long black hair, eyeglass frames no lenses (I guess all the kids are doing that these days. She had on sexy fishnet stockings and a tattoo on her wrist. Face and body a 6-7 IMHO. Another girl also there but she was shorter and fatter.

I told her I wanted qiaobei and she took me back to one of the small rooms. The BBS is not clean but I have seen worse.

We negotiated in Chinese, she told me 500 RMB for FS including BBBJ. I told her it was too much and said 300, she said 500 because it is Chinese New Year and I said I won't pay 500. We went back and forth for a second and I began to walk out and she said ok 300.

I typically don't like negotiating but if I feel I am being cheated I will walk, lots of BBS around.

We undressed and I laid down and she began cat-licking and DFK then gave a great BBBJ with lots of dirty talk while I fingered her pussy and ass, maybe 5 minutes. Then she put on a condom and like second nature got into doggy. After I finished she cleaned me up and we got dressed, I asked for her phone # or QQ so I could get her for take out later this month. Gave her 300 and she let me out the back door.

Girl Rating: 7.

Service Rating: 8.

BBS Rating: 5.

Overall I recommend Fangcao Road for a quick pop or late night snack but only if you don't mind less then elegant settings and have some Chinese / negotiating skills or been to a BBS before.

Thanks,

Tybao

A few requests for more details on my recent visit. Happy to oblige!

I see the forum program removed the apostrophe from my intended address of Jing-An, instead only reported the Jing! So I'll force the "An" into it.

This section of Dagu Road goes West from the North-South Elevated Expressway, is one block South of Four Seasons Hotel, very near the intersection of Yan-An and North-South Elevated Expressway's. From Four Seasons head South one block on Shimen 1st Road, turn left on Dagu Road (cannot turn right, it is a dead-end) , this particular block of Dagu has several really good restaurants (in addition to the Danish Restaurant there is also a New Zealand restaurant. Show of hands, how many of you have sought out New Zealand cuisine! All joking aside, it's really good!). On left hand side are at least four massage joints, a new one I reported on several months ago; Sunny Massage, I've had a few great HE's there. The oil massage I received recently was from "FINO Aroma Healing and Massage".486 Dagu Road.

The prices on Dagu Road seem quite a bit higher than I read from other massage joints in this forum, so don't come here looking for 300 RMB good time. But a good time is available none-the-less.

I need some coaching from the Senior Members or the forum Admin, did I pass to much information about this massage joint? I'll really feel like hell if they are raided, or shut down, or forced to cut back on services. Should I have been more discreet?

I usually go to bodi, hailang, or 999, but found myself in the area recently so decided to give it a try, I got to say I this place is worth the extra travel time.

First thing first, the overall quality of ladies is decidedly lacking, I would say a solid 2 points lower than places I just mentioned. Of the three times I have been the lineup consisted of only one or two girls I would have chosen BUT there was always a gem in the rough. The first time and the third time I went I chose 96 and she is fantastic.

I am of Chinese descent so YMMV but 96 is a girl that will let you go around the world if you want to along with the standard sauna routine. She is also fantastic and playful and more than willing to please with just about any request if you can make her understand that is. Furthermore the service at this place from the girls is second to none, all three times I went the girl actually asked me how many times I wanted to do and planned the session around that. Also the second time I went, after we finished I said that my back was hurting and the girl actually went out to get me some hot stones and performed a really good hot stone massage for an extra thirty minutes.

Finally I know this is a secondary concern but the after main event services are great. You always get a private room, and there are normally no ear cleaning girls pestering you for a cleaning though my recent visit did find one working. The food is also better than other places with the spring rolls being actually pretty good.

Anyways, overall a good alternative to the more frequently mentioned places on this board.

Address is 2131 Longming road, cross is caobao road on the third floor not too hard to find.

Saturday night visited Judy's around 10 pm, four dudes drinking beer, pretty good live band, but dead, dead, dead. Too early I guess. Walked to Manhattan, only one girl at the bar. More dead than Judy's! I hoped for better at 10 pm (my first visit to either) , I'm not young and 10 pm is past my bedtime!

I ordered a beer and found a table, not too hard to do. As I was sipping my beer about three girls entered, each from a different direction. Once came almost straight to me, a cute little Chinese girl named Candy. My goal was to spend some time in the bar, find out what it is about, see some beautiful Vietnamese (I think they are the prettiest in Asia!) and learn about Manhattan. But Candy was interesting, good conversation, and I started my hands to roaming. She had a very nice body, I was having fun squeezing her ass. We danced a little, she was very affectionate, collapsing her small body into mine no matter if I was sitting on the bar stool or standing, it was nice. After about 30 minutes she hinted about going to my "hotel". I changed my plan for the night and asked "how much can I give you?". She said RMB 1, 200, I countered 1, 000 (which is what I planned to spend based on reading this forum) and off to my apartment we went. I clarified she would stay until breakfast in the morning, she readily agreed.

She was well prepared, carried a bag with condoms, wipes, gel, oil, a clasp to keep her hair out of her face during BBBJ. Note she asked me if it was OK to give BJ without condom. I told her I thought that would be a great idea.

Candy has a very cute face, slim body with nice tits and a great, round ass. But she does not enjoy kissing or fingering and wouldn't allow me much access to those nice tits. I must be in a slump, I posted on the Beijing thread how my friend Lili won't let me touch her nice tits, now I run into this again with Candy in Shanghai. Is it me?

We had a mediocre round of sex, the BBBJ before and after was much better. Slept until about 4 am, when my massaging her clit woke her for round 2, and this round of FS was top notch, multiple positions, lots of moaning, I kept her going for about 30 minutes before launching a load. Afterward lots of blood on the sheets, she claimed my size ripped her a bit, but she did not complain and apologized several times for the blood. I quizzed her several times asking if I caused her pain, which seems obvious but she wouldn't admit to any pain.

Face 8.

Body 8.

Attitude and personality 9.

Performance during FS 9.

Touching, kissing, cuddling, fondling 2.

Would I repeat? No, in spite of her efforts to please me I want GFE, DFK and think there are many out there who will provide it.

[QUOTE=Changer720; 1388093]I usually go to bodi, hailang, or 999, but found myself in the area recently so decided to give it a try, I got to say I this place is worth the extra travel time.

First thing first, the overall quality of ladies is decidedly lacking, I would say a solid 2 points lower than places I just mentioned. Of the three times I have been the lineup consisted of only one or two girls I would have chosen BUT there was always a gem in the rough. The first time and the third time I went I chose 96 and she is fantastic.

I am of Chinese descent so YMMV but 96 is a girl that will let you go around the world if you want to along with the standard sauna routine. She is also fantastic and playful and more than willing to please with just about any request if you can make her understand that is. Furthermore the service at this place from the girls is second to none, all three times I went the girl actually asked me how many times I wanted to do and planned the session around that. Also the second time I went, after we finished I said that my back was hurting and the girl actually went out to get me some hot stones and performed a really good hot stone massage for an extra thirty minutes.

Finally I know this is a secondary concern but the after main event services are great. You always get a private room, and there are normally no ear cleaning girls pestering you for a cleaning though my recent visit did find one working. The food is also better than other places with the spring rolls being actually pretty good.

Anyways, overall a good alternative to the more frequently mentioned places on this board.

Address is 2131 Longming road, cross is caobao road on the third floor not too hard to find.[/QUOTE]Nice post. That is definitley my mongering area of choice. Just wondering what was the cost was for this place.

Went to Bodi Saturday and waited about an hour and half for service. I understand most of the girls are still on Chinese New Year break, even after 8-9 days, but if they don't have girls why not just close during the CNY? Plus it annoyed me that they were taking other gentlemen back for service who arrived after me.

Anyways, after waiting an hour and half I was offered only 1 girl, no fishbowl. She was short and fat, very fat, from Hunan. Maybe 5'3" tall, late 20's, hair pulled back, lots of make up. Sorry I didn't catch her number. She had big tits though.

The table shower was nice, about 15 minutes.

After the table shower she was all business, mechanical and rushed. No DFK, no GFE, no DATY, just missionary until I finished, which took awhile since she just layed there. She had big tits though.

Cleaned up and left. Damage 880 RMB.

Girl Rating: 5.

Service Rating: 5.

Yes the Sauna is 4 Star but if I am paying 880 and waiting an hour and a half I want more than a 30 minute ho-hum service from an average looking girl.

I will try Jun Hao next time. Has anyone been to Hai Bin Spa on Jiashan Road? I heard good things, but didn't see anything in searching this forum.

Tybao

[QUOTE=Papi1212; 1383869]Thanks for the advice, the girls look nice.

However, while it sounds like you really like that place considering the amount of posts you wrote about this agent, it sounds like you are the only one. Is there anybody else who could confirm?

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]That looks like real pic of Gao Gao. IMHO she was worth the damage. One downside side for me which ruined the mood a bit was that her phone was consistently going off and multiple incoming text messages which I found distracting. If you decide to try you may want to ask her to mute her phone ahead of time. Other than that I think you should have a fun time. Please report back if you decide to try Papi.

[QUOTE=BushWhack; 1388053]A few requests for more details on my recent visit. Happy to oblige!

I see the forum program removed the apostrophe from my intended address of Jing-An, instead only reported the Jing! So I'll force the "An" into it.

Thanks Dude. What ever yo need in "my" area (hong qiao / gubei) ask.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1388089]I need some coaching from the Senior Members or the forum Admin, did I pass to much information about this massage joint? I'll really feel like hell if they are raided, or shut down, or forced to cut back on services. Should I have been more discreet?[/QUOTE]Relax dude, I feel you didn t speak too much. If you scroll in the past report you can see how we share some shop and information. Or you can use the pm for cell number and so on. Sometimes I ve post some photos too.

[QUOTE=Tybao; 1388044]The BBS on this road have been mention before on the forum, here is my report and recommendations.

Fangcao Road is in Pudong starting at Hunan Road and continues east past Baiyang Road, very close to the Fanghua Road station on line 7.

We negotiated in Chinese, she told me 500 RMB for FS including BBBJ. I told her it was too much and said 300, she said 500 because it is Chinese New Year and I said I won't pay 500. We went back and forth for a second and I began to walk out and she said ok 300.

I typically don't like negotiating but if I feel I am being cheated I will walk, lots of BBS around.

Tybao[/QUOTE]OMG, so this is some inflated expectation, I know it was CNY, but still Fangcao is rather downmarket, so to ask Y300, I mean. Good that you did not go for it, otherwise we might soon face Sacrosa prices in BBS. By the way how long did the whole action last, typical 10-15 min or could you 'sqeeze' (no pun) more out of it. Thanks for your reply.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1388740]OMG, so this is some inflated expectation, I know it was CNY, but still Fangcao is rather downmarket, so to ask Y300, I mean. Good that you did not go for it, otherwise we might soon face Sacrosa prices in BBS. By the way how long did the whole action last, typical 10-15 min or could you 'sqeeze' (no pun) more out of it. Thanks for your reply.[/QUOTE]The Whole action was about 20 minutes total. (5 minutes of foreplay and 5 minutes of BBBJ and 10 minutes in doggy). I don't know what the going rate is at BBS, haven't been for at least a year, I assume prices have gone up as with everything in China. But it was worth the 300 I paid. I got DFK and BBBJ and got to finger her pussy and ass before the deed, plus it was CNY and the girl was good looking and got her contact info.

Changlelu, are foreigners still getting BBBJ and FS in Shanghai BBS for Y200?

If yes, I will negotiate harder next time.

Tybao

Hi,

I sometimes read about people complaining about the girl using a 'fake tongue'. Can someone explain what is exactly meant with that?

[QUOTE=SapGui; 1388985]Hi,

I sometimes read about people complaining about the girl using a 'fake tongue'. Can someone explain what is exactly meant with that?[/QUOTE]Use of their fingertip in lieu of their tongue when they get down to the ass-tickle part, with you belly down and oblivious.

Tip. If their 'tongue' feels cool while it's ostensibly darting around down there and out of your sight, call shenanigans!

I was in the Changshu Road area Tuesday night around 7:00 PM. I spotted a young girl on the corner, sorry I don't remember which corner it was, maybe yongfu Road and fuxing west Road but I can't be sure. She was dressed very sexy and was by herself and not going anyplace in particular and not carrying any bags. She looked like a WG but I couldn't be sure, could be just waiting for a friend or a ride. I had noticed a few fuzz around so if she was a WG on this busy street she must have no fear.

I stood at the corner waiting to cross and noticed she didn't cross with the light. She was about 5'4", slim but decent rack showing a small amount of cleavage, fair skin, pink mini skirt with stockings, white fur coat, good amount of makeup, reddish-brown hair, looked maybe 19. I waited to see if she would make eye contact and she did. I built up the courage and introduced myself in Chinese and said Happy New Year. She said she was from Anhui, her name was Yingying. I flirted a bit and asked if she lived close by, she said yes. Suddenly she asked "ni xiang yao ma?" I said yes. She said 500, I agreed. She said follow me and we walked and turned down a street, didn't catch the name. Then turned again, walked a couple minutes. The enterance of her building was dark, I was afraid a couple thugs were going to jump me, but I cracked on. We went up the stairs and she opened the door to her place, flipped on the lights, we were alone. It looked like she lived there temporary or just moved in, not much furniture or posessions. There were other rooms but the doors were closed.

She took me to the bedroom and started disrobing, she had a big hello kitty blanket on her bed. She said 500 included shower, BBBJ and FS. 1 hour. I said OK. She helped me out of my clothes and led me to the bathroom, rinsed me off and herself, paid attention to mr. Happy, let my hands roam and wash her but she seemed all business. Dried off and she told me to lay on the bed. She gave a cat bath and slowly made her way to mr. Happy. She gave a decent BBBJ, but it was obvious she didn't have a lot of experience. Once hard she put on the condom and got on top, rode me with fake moaning for a few minutes until we switched to doggy and I blew my load. Her body was young and tight, my only complaint is the experience seemed a bit mechanical. She cleaned me up and we talked for a minute. She had a tattoo on her shoulder. She started getting dressed and I said it hasn't been 1 hour yet, she said OK, asked if I wanted to go again and I said yes. She said 200 and I said 500 for 1 hour, but she said if I wanted a second time it was 200 more. I told her we agreed 500 included 1 hour, she said it did but only 1 time sex. I told her it has been 40 minutes so I only pay 350. We negotiated for a minute and she began with the cat bath again and played with mr happy to get him hard, all the while asking for 200 more. I finally caved in. She covered for the BJ this time, We did it in missionary until I came. Cleaned up and she asked if I wanted to shower again, I said sure. Dried off, got dressed.

1 hour and 2 pops for 700 RMB.

Girl Rating: 8.

Service Rating: 7.

Apartment Rating: 7

Tybao

I'm looking for a massage gal who worked in the alleyway massage joint off Wuning Road near the Wanhangdu Road intersection.

She was a #98 Ronghua Road in the Hongqiao area last spring. She is at a new place with 9 workers. Anybody seen her? Nemo? You get around that area a lot. Maybe she is still on Ronghua Road?

Cheers send me pm if you know others who give a great massage and good stroking technique.

Bj4987

Beijinger, I've exchanged some texts with her a few days ago and seems she is out of town but I know she plans to come back. However no clue when and where.

[QUOTE=Comrade 2255; 1389326]Use of their fingertip in lieu of their tongue when they get down to the ass-tickle part, with you belly down and oblivious.

Tip. If their 'tongue' feels cool while it's ostensibly darting around down there and out of your sight, call shenanigans![/QUOTE]Sometimes they use jelly like candys, preferably one looking like a very small corn making it rough on the outside. It is all about perception.

Wanted to check out Luna bar in Xintiandi, read a few posts here that made me think it might have a few girls. Entered around 10:30 pm last night, crowded, band playing but a very young crowd, I was definately out of place. Drank my one beer, then left. Crossed the walkway and entered Paulaner. Very crowded, band just starting, a great band (Philippino, I think) , lady lead singer has some pipes! As you enter the restaurant, bar is straight ahead, left side of the bar about 6 working girls, so I walked over. One girl with a huge rack, seemed natural the way they sagged slightly. I got a beer, looking around saw Yoyo across the bar. I've posted about Yoyo from this same restaurant before, she is my favorite girl in Shanghai and China. She left SH back in October or so to her home in Hangzhou, but behold, she's back.

We had a short reunion, a few hugs (this is the fifth time I've taken her) and off to my apartment. Yoyo provides the best sex I've ever had, not as naughty as Nadia from BKK Nana plaza (different post) , but she is very lively, sexy, really into it plus she has this Chinese thing about taking care of her man, undressing me, bathing me, pushing me down on the bed for fondling, BBBJ, Cowgirl and variations of each. She's nearly tireless, great Cowgirl, then slowing enough to place one nipple in my mouth, more trusting, another nipple, she reaches behind her to stroke my balls while sitting on me and moving in a wonderful way.

Pulls me down to mish, I'm alternating fast, slow, nipple sucking, and she still reaches under me to continue stroking my balls. DFK during the short rests. She's small, but works her pelvis in such a way that even when I'm on top she's still f#king me! She also has that muscle control thing where her pussy squeezes my penis, if I can manage to stop long enough to feel it.

I try to give her about 30 seconds warning before I cum, because she really goes into overdrive both physically and verbally. Just awesome. One full round before sleep, then again in the morning, with the morning session even slower and more passionate than the alcohol-fueled night session. I'm drained.

The first time I took Yoyo from Paulaner she asked 2, 000 RMB, it was one of my first ever events and I had no clue about pricing or negotiating so I agreed. Then, after finding this forum and RTFF WTF LOL ASAP I found the better price is 1, 000, so I told her I would give 1, 000, she agreed! Now we don't discuss money, I just slip 1, 000 into her purse or last night layed it on her coat.

As a "regular" seems each time is more passionate. Return business pays off once you find the right girl.

Yoyo's face is pretty but not beautiful, maybe 7.

Small body is perfectly proportionalte, tits maybe slightly large for her frame; 9.

Sexual experience; 10, 10, 10, 10 and last night 10.

Will I return. You bet your ass! Scheduled her for Sunday.

I am on a business trip soon to Nanjing via Shanghai. I do not really expect much out of Nanjing, although I have not considered what I will do there yet. Shanghai, however, seems worth the visit. I will spend three days / four nights there.

I have just spent an hour reading the Shanghai forum and I realize that I would be happiest if I had a guide. It is a complicated city, and I speak absolutely no Chinese, and cannot read the signs, etc.

I was thinking of trying to find a young pretty woman who would take me around Shanghai and show me the sites, take me to wonderful restaurants, fuck me and then be on her way. I did this once in Beijing a long time ago, and this worked well. After the guide would go home, I would generally go mongering on my own. If I were unsuccessful, I did not mind as much, as I had already had a nice sexual experience. Of course, the price for such a guide is going to be a lot more these days than 6 years ago, but it still strikes me as a good way to go.

If anyone has a person whom they would suggest, please send me a pm. I am curious how other members would go about this: Craig's list? [url]www.beijinger.com?[/url] A dating site?

Many thanks F

Dude, I send you pm's about the queen.

BJ.

Vannamond; 1389775]Beijinger, I've exchanged some texts with her a few days ago and seems she is out of town but I know she plans to come back. However no clue when and where.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I will be in Shanghai after 2 weeks. Are there any Russian or foreigner WG I can take in Shanghai for full night?

Price is not a problem. Please any help will be greatly appreciated. Help a brother out guys, I will defintly write about my experience.

Thanks in advance boys.

Hi Everyone,

1. Hongqiao District.

Take a Taxi to "Huaguang Lu, Hong Zhong Lu" in Hong Qiao District.

Multiple shops with Nice girls. Should be 200RMB for Full Service 30 mins.

Foreigners sometimes pay 300RMB.

Usually Includes BJ and FS.

2. Hongqiao District.

Massage Parlours near "Hongmei Lu, Huaguang Lu", Hong Qiao District.

The Upscale ones on Hongmei Road are good for HJ and massage.

Usually have to pay about 200 for room, them 200 for HJ. (60 min) NOT FS.

I Recommend the "MONT BLANC" MP.

3. Minghan District.

Line 1 (Red) Stop at Lianhua Lu Station.

Get taxi to "Lianhua Lu, Xinzhu Lu"

Look for Purple lights on each side of road.

200RMB for BJ and FS.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Howdy1234;1386701]Sorry forgot to put price on the others. They're also RMB 880.[/QUOTE]At present it is probably the best sauna in Shanghai: best girls, best selections, best rooms. Waiting time is the only problem: went twice and had to wait 1hr once and 40 minutes the second time.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1389893]Wanted to check out Luna bar in Xintiandi, read a few posts here that made me think it might have a few girls. Entered around 10:30 pm last night, crowded, band playing but a very young crowd, I was definately out of place. Drank my one beer, then left. Crossed the walkway and entered Paulaner. Very crowded, band just starting, a great band (Philippino, I think) , lady lead singer has some pipes! As you enter the restaurant, bar is straight ahead, left side of the bar about 6 working girls, so I walked over. One girl with a huge rack, seemed natural the way they sagged slightly. I got a beer, looking around saw Yoyo across the bar. I've posted about Yoyo from this same restaurant before, she is my favorite girl in Shanghai and China. She left SH back in October or so to her home in Hangzhou, but behold, she's back.[/QUOTE]I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but I love Paulaner. Not only is a great place to hang out day or night and relax with a beer, but I've also thought the quality of the few working girls there is pretty good the few times I've been there. I only had take-out once (the first couple of times I was there the s / o was with me) , but the one I did take out was outstanding. She claimed she wasn't a working girl, which is possible given how she was dressed, the fact that she had her workout clothes in a bag with her (she showed me) , the fact that she underpriced herself by a few hundred Chairman Maos, and her voracious appetite for my xiao didi. I still regret not calling her for a 2nd round the next night. The other thing I've noticed is that the girls there tend to be PRC vs. Immigrants like you find at Judy's or Manhattan. My friend was, and the time I was there with the SO (also PRC) she confirmed a couple of the girls we were chatting up at the bar were also Chinese.

Lucky me. I'll be back in Shanghai in 3 weeks. Paulaner will be my first stop!

[QUOTE=Forest;1389998]I have just spent an hour reading the Shanghai forum and I realize that I would be happiest if I had a guide. It is a complicated city, and I speak absolutely no Chinese, and cannot read the signs, etc.[/QUOTE]I would try CL, or a real guide service like Viator and take your chances on the companionship. Viator is a clearing house for independent guides so you can pick and choose who you like via photos and emails, and you do have a chance to email back and forth with your prospective guides before you engage one. While I think it's unlikely in Shanghai, even legitimate licensed tour guides in many parts of China will be open to making a little extra.

OTOH, having been to Shanghai a couple times alone, I really don't think you need a guide. I don't think it's particularly complicated city, you don't need to speak Chinese (I don't) , and it's really easy to get around via subway and taxi. Most street signs are written in English and Chinese, and the subway has English everywhere. Taxis might be a problem but just ask your hotel concierge to write your destinations in Chinese and show them to the drivers. Taxis also don't cheat you, unlike many cities in China. In all respects Shanghai is the most Western of all Chinese cities (excluding HK) , and really easy for a lone laowai to navigate successfully and safely.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1390945]Taxis might be a problem but just ask your hotel concierge to write your destinations in Chinese and show them to the drivers. Taxis also don't cheat you, unlike many cities in China.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of what was said, however, I would urge some caution with the blanket endorsement of taxis in Shanghai. If you go back in the forum, you can read several instances where the taxis were less than upright about their fees, destinations, etc. Just be a little careful out there.

LD

The standard taxi's in most cases are fair. But there are "unmarked" taxi's or different color from the standard ones: They are a lot more expensive.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog; 1391242]I agree with most of what was said, however, I would urge some caution with the blanket endorsement of taxis in Shanghai. If you go back in the forum, you can read several instances where the taxis were less than upright about their fees, destinations, etc. Just be a little careful out there.

LD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1391248]The standard taxi's in most cases are fair. But there are "unmarked" taxi's or different color from the standard ones: They are a lot more expensive.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]Agreed, generally try to look for a white (Jinjiang Group) , yellow (Johnson Group) , light green (Bus Group) , or light blue (Dazhong Group) when looking for taxis.

Otherwise, the World Expo themed taxis are also great.

Taxis belonging to major companies typically are more honest in their practices.

In addition, some of the taxis operating in the suburbs are not allowed to enter the city.

Say you got off the metro at Zhangjiang station or Songjiang Station and got a taxi waiting right outside the station, chances are they cannot go outside of their district.

In my experience the Dark Red and Dark Blue taxis are also to be avoided. They are usually independent operators (I am certain about the Dark Red maybe not so much the Dark Blue) and often scam foreigners. Taking very scenic routes or having modified meters that run 10X as fast as normal.

The Bright Red ones are also suspect but can be fine.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1391321]Agreed, generally try to look for a white (Jinjiang Group) , yellow (Johnson Group) , light green (Bus Group) , or light blue (Dazhong Group) when looking for taxis.

Otherwise, the World Expo themed taxis are also great.

Taxis belonging to major companies typically are more honest in their practices.

In addition, some of the taxis operating in the suburbs are not allowed to enter the city.

Say you got off the metro at Zhangjiang station or Songjiang Station and got a taxi waiting right outside the station, chances are they cannot go outside of their district.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1391474]In my experience the Dark Red and Dark Blue taxis are also to be avoided. They are usually independent operators (I am certain about the Dark Red maybe not so much the Dark Blue) and often scam foreigners. Taking very scenic routes or having modified meters that run 10X as fast as normal.

The Bright Red ones are also suspect but can be fine.[/QUOTE]The colors only indicate the government company that owns them e. G. Dazhong, Bashi, Juntion, etc. The self owned taxis are easy to spot not by color but by license plate. All self owned taxis have an "X" in the license plate sequence. All government owned taxis are VWs. Many of the independent "X" plated taxis are dark maroon Hyundai. Simple avoid the "X" plates if you are concerned. I have never had a problem in 5 years. I would never take any ride from a tout or taxi hawker at the airport or Maglev or anywhere else for that matter.

Last week, I visited Shanghai once again. On the first day, I tried Siyuan. It was shortly after the Chinese New Year holidays, so the line-up was limited, and only 5 girls were there. Nevertheless, I did not have to wait more than 3 minutes. Unfortunately, when I came to the fishbowl, a Chinese guy snapped my favorite away, just a few seconds before I could get hold of her. There was another one, very slim and average tall. Small tits, but she looked ok. At the beginning, she was a bit shy or too serious. But when I made some jokes (fortunately, I do speak some Chinese for small talk) , she became pretty relaxed, and we had a great session. She definitely also enjoyed and was very wet.

The next day, I went then to Bodi. After the shower, I was asked to wait. I was already disappointed, since four or five Chinese guys were also already waiting. However, after about 2 minutes, I was called and was already happy. On the way to the fishbowl, we pass two girls, but they disappear in one of the girl's rooms. Then, the fishbowl is empty, and they also present only one girl. My "guide" says something about few girls left after Chinese New Year. Well, the girl they present doesn't look too bad. At least at first sight, and she has big tits. So, I agree, even though not too happily.

The girl has then big boops, but they are not completely real, which is usually a turn-off for me. She is also not as slim as I like it. Nevertheless, she gives me a good service and does a few new tricks on the wet bed. The deed is ok, but nothing special. We still have some time left, and we relax and chat a bit. She tells me that she is 40 years old, which is by far beyond the usual age at Bodi or Siyuan. When I go back to the locker room, the boy there asks me how it was, and he also mentions that "this girl is too old".

Now, I believe that Bodi also does some tricks. I am foreigner, and they presented this old girl to me, since they thought I am unfamiliar with China and the place (which both are not true). Most likely, they really do (or did) have a shortage of girls, after the Chinese New Year. And therefore, they wanted to keep the young and pretty ones for the Chinese customers (who are more likely to complain if they do not get what they expect) and possibly for some regulars.

So, my conclusion is (once again) : if they present only one or only very few girls, and you are not totally satisfied with their proposal, you should reject the girls and ask for another selection. Even when there is shortage, there might be other ones. And if necessary, be prepared to wait a bit. Another idea might be to go there in the afternoon, when the number of customers is limited.

Wonderer

[QUOTE=Ponegan;1390747]At present it is probably the best sauna in Shanghai: best girls, best selections, best rooms. Waiting time is the only problem: went twice and had to wait 1hr once and 40 minutes the second time.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am in Shanghai for the first time and wish to try a sauna experience. Can some one help me with the address to Hong Song, since they seam to be the best place for a sauna experiences these days.

I have seen the reports and I am very exited to try this.

I have been living in Shanghai full time for almost 10 years and my experience is as described. X or no X, I have been cheated by dark red and dark blue Santana taxis.

[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1391835]The next day, I went then to Bodi. After the shower, I was asked to wait. I was already disappointed, since four or five Chinese guys were also already waiting. However, after about 2 minutes, I was called and was already happy. On the way to the fishbowl, we pass two girls, but they disappear in one of the girl's rooms. Then, the fishbowl is empty, and they also present only one girl. My "guide" says something about few girls left after Chinese New Year. Well, the girl they present doesn't look too bad. At least at first sight, and she has big tits. So, I agree, even though not too happily.

The girl has then big boops, but they are not completely real, which is usually a turn-off for me. She is also not as slim as I like it. Nevertheless, she gives me a good service and does a few new tricks on the wet bed. The deed is ok, but nothing special. We still have some time left, and we relax and chat a bit. She tells me that she is 40 years old, which is by far beyond the usual age at Bodi or Siyuan. When I go back to the locker room, the boy there asks me how it was, and he also mentions that "this girl is too old".

Now, I believe that Bodi also does some tricks. I am foreigner, and they presented this old girl to me, since they thought I am unfamiliar with China and the place (which both are not true). Most likely, they really do (or did) have a shortage of girls, after the Chinese New Year. And therefore, they wanted to keep the young and pretty ones for the Chinese customers (who are more likely to complain if they do not get what they expect) and possibly for some regulars.

So, my conclusion is (once again) : if they present only one or only very few girls, and you are not totally satisfied with their proposal, you should reject the girls and ask for another selection. Even when there is shortage, there might be other ones. And if necessary, be prepared to wait a bit. Another idea might be to go there in the afternoon, when the number of customers is limited.

Wonderer[/QUOTE]I was at Bo Di in early November. I stop off in the afternoon with two colleagues. A good friend made a call to one of the senior manager and when we got there, after the formalities, he were taken to a private room. You may be right that they stash the younger one for the Chinese customer. On the way to the room, I ask the manager to take a look at the fishbowl. Being early in the afternoon I did not see much in the fishbowl. When we got to the room, they gave us a private line up. Much different than the one the I saw just a few minutes ago. Much younger and higher in quality.

Took this one that looks like a sexy secretary wearing some sexy glasses. When I got to the room, I found out the glasses did not have any glasses, she just wore them for looks. After washing every inch of my body with her tits, ass and tongue, we proceeded to do the deed. I had a bit of problems that afternoon. Sometimes due to my daily meds (hypertension, kidney, asthma. Etc. Just getting friggin old) I had a hard time to nut. We did it for 45 minutes. She absolutely went crazy from moaning to screaming. A few times someone knock on the door asking if she was okay. Finally she had to finish me off with a combo hand, BJ and pu$$why. After we showered, she grabbed my cell and punched in her number (so she gets mines). She literally called me several times every hour asking me where I was staying and if she can meet me. Really

I could not get together with her cause I had a freebie already in Shanghai.

My two other colleagues took two girls each for threesomes. One of them never done a double fly. Total damages for the three of us and five beautiful gals was $3, 800 rmb. The bad thing was that I put it on my company credit card. Usually in China the Saunas are disguised as hotel or restaurant charges. I was totally shocked when I got my AMX and it showed up as "Bo Di Sauna". It is good that I have a great secretary that knows when to keep her mouth shut. All I got was a smile when she ask me to approve the expenses.

[QUOTE=Bnlee2;1391911]My two other colleagues took two girls each for threesomes. One of them never done a double fly. Total damages for the three of us and five beautiful gals was $3, 800 rmb. The bad thing was that I put it on my company credit card. Usually in China the Saunas are disguised as hotel or restaurant charges. I was totally shocked when I got my AMX and it showed up as "Bo Di Sauna". It is good that I have a great secretary that knows when to keep her mouth shut. All I got was a smile when she ask me to approve the expenses.[/QUOTE]

That is surprising. Usually Bodi charges shows up as Jiuyi Touzi (JiuYi Investment) on my statements in the past, but I use VISA, not sure if the card network has anything to do with the name of the entity though.

It has been a while but I recall paying with a Visa card and it showed up as a Bodi Hotel charge. But it has been a year or so.

[QUOTE=Carage;1391931]That is surprising. Usually Bodi charges shows up as Jiuyi Touzi (JiuYi Investment) on my statements in the past, but I use VISA, not sure if the card network has anything to do with the name of the entity though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1391879]I have been living in Shanghai full time for almost 10 years and my experience is as described. X or no X, I have been cheated by dark red and dark blue Santana taxis.[/QUOTE]I sign my money from atm with a number and a letter. I never take blue taxi and red. Normally I wait the green light blue and gold. However the new withe big of expo are not bad. If I m alone never sit in the back so I can see what the driver do with my cash. 3 times I ve had money back from the company. One time I saw the fuxxxx driver cry in front of police. One time (weni I was just arrived here. 8 yrs before they change my money with fake money. Now if I m alone. I prefer drive my scooter.

[QUOTE=Wonderer;1391835]So, my conclusion is (once again) : if they present only one or only very few girls, and you are not totally satisfied with their proposal, you should reject the girls and ask for another selection. Even when there is shortage, there might be other ones. And if necessary, be prepared to wait a bit. Another idea might be to go there in the afternoon, when the number of customers is limited. Wonderer[/QUOTE]Earlier this week I visited Merrylin around 5pm so the girls were having dinner. The fishbowl had about 5 girls and I was not really interested, so decided to wait. After 10 min they presented another lineup, mostly with the same girls. Some girls even joined from their back room while still munching on food (!) very sexy, a Chinese punter who stood next to me said something about it to the manager though. I then made my choice, a slim girl. However, as soon as the manager called her nr through the microphone, the girl (behind the one-way glass) said something and the manager said that it was a no-go! I speak some Chinese and asked why, upon which the manager made some vague statements. I then realized that she would not service laowai, but how does she know I am a foreigner, I. E. The so-called one-way glass is not really one-way, gentlemen! It is even more interesting since I am mixed and thus look somewhat Chinese, certainly from the girls' viewpoint, I. E. She is standing in a bright lit room looking through glass at me standing in the near dark. I do not know how she knew I am a foreigner, because the manager only announced her nr and she could have been chosen by the Chinese punters who were standing next to me. Anyway, I (factually) said to the manager that I am not laowai, but mixed but the manager would not budge. A Chinese punter next to me even joked (in English) that next time I should claim to be 100% Chinese LOL. Anyway, I made a different selection and had a good time. However, it still baffles me how the girl knew I am a foreigner. Sorry for the somewhat long post.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1392127]Earlier this week I visited Merrylin around 5pm so the girls were having dinner. The fishbowl had about 5 girls and I was not really interested, so decided to wait. After 10 min they presented another lineup, mostly with the same girls. Some girls even joined from their back room while still munching on food (!) very sexy, a Chinese punter who stood next to me said something about it to the manager though. I then made my choice, a slim girl. However, as soon as the manager called her nr through the microphone, the girl (behind the one-way glass) said something and the manager said that it was a no-go! I speak some Chinese and asked why, upon which the manager made some vague statements. I then realized that she would not service laowai, but how does she know I am a foreigner, I. E. The so-called one-way glass is not really one-way, gentlemen! It is even more interesting since I am mixed and thus look somewhat Chinese, certainly from the girls' viewpoint, I. E. She is standing in a bright lit room looking through glass at me standing in the near dark. I do not know how she knew I am a foreigner, because the manager only announced her nr and she could have been chosen by the Chinese punters who were standing next to me. Anyway, I (factually) said to the manager that I am not laowai, but mixed but the manager would not budge. A Chinese punter next to me even joked (in English) that next time I should claim to be 100% Chinese LOL. Anyway, I made a different selection and had a good time. However, it still baffles me how the girl knew I am a foreigner. Sorry for the somewhat long post.[/QUOTE]The fishbowl at 999 might not be exactly one-way either.

There was once when I went there and I was really surprised to see my favorite girl in the past is still working there. I was surprised and she also appeared surprised then she started winking to me.

After we got in the room I asked her how did she recognize me, and she said the fishbowl is not exactly one-way, at least she claimed she recognized me through my body shape and my glasses, but she was hesitant to go on more.

I assume there maybe some management restrictions going on, so I did not press the issue.

But after that I always act under the assumption that the girl could see me behind the glass.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1392175]The fishbowl at 999 might not be exactly one-way either.

But after that I always act under the assumption that the girl could see me behind the glass.[/QUOTE]The glass window gives the impression of privacy to the clients, I mean why else have a separation. In some saunas there is a direct line up in front of you (Sacrosa) where everyone can see each other. Some punters prefer to take their time in selecting and. When they are in a group. Discussing the girls on offer, in which case privacy is welcome. Also privacy allows for choosing another girl than your regular etc, this can avoid complications (bad feelings, loss of face, jealousy etc). So I can fully understand the rationale of the window. However, what I do not understand is the reasoning behind a two-way window : as long as the client does not know it, he will feel the same, OK. But what is the advantage for the girls vs a non-restricted lineup directly in front of the client. Now I found out about the 'fake' window, I feel somewhat cheated by the sauna (please do not over-interpret this). Would welcome members' thoughts and experience on this, am I perhaps missing something?

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1392197]The glass window gives the impression of privacy to the clients, I mean why else have a separation. In some saunas there is a direct line up in front of you (Sacrosa) where everyone can see each other. Some punters prefer to take their time in selecting and. When they are in a group. Discussing the girls on offer, in which case privacy is welcome. Also privacy allows for choosing another girl than your regular etc, this can avoid complications (bad feelings, loss of face, jealousy etc). So I can fully understand the rationale of the window. However, what I do not understand is the reasoning behind a two-way window : as long as the client does not know it, he will feel the same, OK. But what is the advantage for the girls vs a non-restricted lineup directly in front of the client. Now I found out about the 'fake' window, I feel somewhat cheated by the sauna (please do not over-interpret this). Would welcome members' thoughts and experience on this, am I perhaps missing something?[/QUOTE]Years ago at Golden 18, I was standing in the dark and picked #xxx, and all the girls started laughing. I asked her what was so funny and she said that it was because I was so tall and she was the smallest girl there. So they could see me through the glass. Or maybe we're in a fishbowl while we're waiting for the girls to check US out.

[QUOTE=Klarmann2003; 1391866]Hi,

I am in Shanghai for the first time and wish to try a sauna experience. Can some one help me with the address to Hong Song, since they seam to be the best place for a sauna experiences these days.

I have seen the reports and I am very exited to try this.[/QUOTE]Here is everything you need to know:

Hong Song Hot Spring Clubhouse

Shi Hong Song Dong Lu 1116 (Hilton Hotel 4th Floor)

Tel:021 64012996

The entry of the Sauna is not easy to find, so here a description:

First go to the lobby of the Hilton. Than walk straight the road in front,

Around 50 meters later turn right and walk around 50 meters again.

Than turn right and you will enter a building with a large foyer and a.

Restaurant on the left side. Opposite side of the restaurant, you will find the elevator.

Now go up to the 4th floor, and you can enter the club.

There is another Club I can recommend (I like most the funny stage catwalk of the girls)

Name is Jun Hao Club.

Longming Lu No. 2131, Building C. 3rd Floor. At the Corner to Caobao Lu.

Opening hours: 1 pm to 2 am.

Phone: 021-33583736.

Manager: Ms Mandy (Chinese name: Meng Meng) no english skills.

Manager mobile: 0086-13661552735.

Here how you go there with metro:

Line 9 to Xing Zhong Lu station (&26143; &20013; &36335; &31449, take exit Nr. 2.

Follow the Cao Bao Lu till you reach the corner of Long Ming Lu.

Details:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs/jun-hao-club/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1391835]The next day, I went then to Bodi. After the shower, I was asked to wait. I was already disappointed, since four or five Chinese guys were also already waiting. However, after about 2 minutes, I was called and was already happy. On the way to the fishbowl, we pass two girls, but they disappear in one of the girl's rooms. Then, the fishbowl is empty, and they also present only one girl. My "guide" says something about few girls left after Chinese New Year. Well, the girl they present doesn't look too bad. At least at first sight, and she has big tits. So, I agree, even though not too happily.

Now, I believe that Bodi also does some tricks. I am foreigner, and they presented this old girl to me, since they thought I am unfamiliar with China and the place (which both are not true). Most likely, they really do (or did) have a shortage of girls, after the Chinese New Year. And therefore, they wanted to keep the young and pretty ones for the Chinese customers (who are more likely to complain if they do not get what they expect) and possibly for some regulars.

Wonderer[/QUOTE]My last visit to Bodi was similar. Nobody in the fishbowl- straight to the end of the hallway where a girl was waiting. No choices. Nothing great, but I felt like they just wanted to get me through the experience and out the door.

On my recent visit to Shanghai, tried both Bodi and Merrylin. Bodi was a disappointment. No girls in the bowl to choose from, just an assigned one waiting at the end of the hall for me. She was okay but its more fun to choose. Merrylin was better. So far every time there has been good. Girls are always enthusiastic.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1392197]The glass window gives the impression of privacy to the clients, I mean why else have a separation. In some saunas there is a direct line up in front of you (Sacrosa) where everyone can see each other. Some punters prefer to take their time in selecting and. When they are in a group. Discussing the girls on offer, in which case privacy is welcome. Also privacy allows for choosing another girl than your regular etc, this can avoid complications (bad feelings, loss of face, jealousy etc). So I can fully understand the rationale of the window. However, what I do not understand is the reasoning behind a two-way window : as long as the client does not know it, he will feel the same, OK. But what is the advantage for the girls vs a non-restricted lineup directly in front of the client. Now I found out about the 'fake' window, I feel somewhat cheated by the sauna (please do not over-interpret this). Would welcome members' thoughts and experience on this, am I perhaps missing something?[/QUOTE]I also fail to comprehend what is the point of creating a fishbowl which doesn't serve its purpose, but given my personal experience and some of the reports on this forum, I tend to be doubtful that the glass is truly one-sided.

[QUOTE=Carage;1392595]I also fail to comprehend what is the point of creating a fishbowl which doesn't serve its purpose, but given my personal experience and some of the reports on this forum, I tend to be doubtful that the glass is truly one-sided.[/QUOTE]I think it is more than comprehensable: the customer thinks the glass is one sides and feel comfortable. The girls can look through and, as proved in some cases, refuse the deal. Due to its usual size, I doubt too it is one sided. One sided mirrors are not that 100% see through and one can feel it is one sided.

The fishbowls I have seen always gave me the doubt. But, hey, it is not a big deal, at the end of hte day, safe for those cases where one does not want one girl sees you picking up another one

[QUOTE=WillyWonker;1392406]My last visit to Bodi was similar. Nobody in the fishbowl- straight to the end of the hallway where a girl was waiting. No choices. Nothing great, but I felt like they just wanted to get me through the experience and out the door.[/QUOTE]+1. Cross Bodi out on my to-do list next trip.

I am going to be in Shanghai next week visiting from UK and wanted to visit the shark infested KTV's. I thought it would be better to go with someone as I am travelling on my own. So if anyone is up for it (possibly this Sunday or Wednesday) then please PM.

Being new, where can I go for some safe fun in Shanghai? I want a clean environment with pretty girls. Please help! It's been a while.

I find it hard to believe that all escorts are working only through agencies and the only good ones are those recommended by Shanghai Nightlife Guide.

I have been looking at the website enjoycitycn and there are loads of girls, many of whom seem from the photos to be as they suggest, part time escorts etc etc.

Has anyone any experience of this site or any agencies that are not lying / cheating etc and deliver whast they say on the tin etc.

Went to Bodi, was quite empty and lineup was bad. Told them I'd wait for another, and after 20 minutes they set me up with a stunner. 621. Very slender, young, white. She was brand new, said she'd been working there 4 days. About 19 years old, great service, wasn't so mechanical, and a bit GFE. Of course YMMV, but I think she generally likes foreigners, and had a great attitude, which complimented her looks well. I find usually this kind of girl (white skinned, very slim / young) tends to have a boring attitude, but not today.

[QUOTE=ABC69;1392838]Being new, where can I go for some safe fun in Shanghai? I want a clean environment with pretty girls. Please help! It's been a while.[/QUOTE]The Barbershops will be too dirty, most massage shops will not have such a great selection of girls, so I think the best chance to find what you are looking for will be a sauna. You can check the forum here, there are several famous sauna clubs in Shanghai. Search for Bodi. 999, Jun hao, Hai Lang (New Waves) , Si Yuan or Hong Song.

Rate will be between 590 to 890 for a 60 to 90 minutes session.

[QUOTE=ABC69;1392838]Being new, where can I go for some safe fun in Shanghai? I want a clean environment with pretty girls. Please help! It's been a while.[/QUOTE]What cleaner than a sauna as a clean place, and they have pretty girls too.

[QUOTE=AlphaX1; 1390547]Hi Everyone,

1. Hongqiao District.

Take a Taxi to "Huaguang Lu, Hong Zhong Lu" in Hong Qiao District.

Multiple shops with Nice girls. Should be 200RMB for Full Service 30 mins.

Foreigners sometimes pay 300RMB.

Usually Includes BJ and FS.

2. Hongqiao District.

Massage Parlours near "Hongmei Lu, Huaguang Lu", Hong Qiao District.

The Upscale ones on Hongmei Road are good for HJ and massage.

Usually have to pay about 200 for room, them 200 for HJ. (60 min) NOT FS.

I Recommend the "MONT BLANC" MP.

3. Minghan District.

Line 1 (Red) Stop at Lianhua Lu Station.

Get taxi to "Lianhua Lu, Xinzhu Lu"

Look for Purple lights on each side of road.

200RMB for BJ and FS.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Hi guys,

It's written that "Should be 200RMB for Full Service 30 mins. Foreigners sometimes pay 300RMB. Usually Includes BJ and FS."

Seems "too cheap" for FS for me or is there something I have misunderstood? Is it really FS or what is to be expected?

Returned to Fino massage on Dagu Road (posted about my amazing HE with Lili two weeks ago) , this time I chose the 90 minutes session for 780 RMB. Earlier I texed Lili to make sure she was in the shop, and I think these girls get a larger cut of the payment if they've been requested. Lili met me when I arrived, all smiles and a few hugs. Again we walked by about eight small rooms, up two flights of stairs to a smaller area with only two or three rooms. Room was very clean with a small shower. Lili started the hot water in the shower while I undressed. I showered, sat on the bed and waited for Lili. She came in, put me on the bed and started the massage. Just like last time she sprinkled some oil on me but just used her fingertips to caress my back, ass, legs, arms etc. Then she took off all her clothes but once again left her panties on, but this time she was wearing small, black thong rather than the grannie undies she wore the first time. She climbed on my back, massaged me with her small breasts and ground her pussy into my tailbone and up and down my spine, I could feel her wetness. She flipped me over, climbed on me once again and slid her pussy up and down my rock-hard penis. I alternated between caressing her small tits and squeezing that nice, tight ass. This time she let me slide her panties down to her thighs so I could have free access to her ass. She is very high-energy, and moved and vibrated herself, shaking and wiggling like a crazy lady! She gave some very nice BBBJ, which was not included two weeks ago. Then she turned around, reverse-cowgirl style, with her panties down around her thighs she slid her pussy up and down my penis, I could hear the slurping noise of her very wet pussy. She bent over so her forhead was near my knees, I could grab her ass as if we were doing doggy style. But there was not actual penetration, but my penis did not understand that! After several minutes of this simulated doggy-style I blew my load. I do not cum easily and was very surprised she got me off like this, with no penetration. But it was great. She cleaned me up, the continued the massage. Part of it was a real massage, but she also spent plenty of time stroking me until I was hard again, then she oiled up my penis and jacked me off in just a few minutes. Again I was surprised I came so quickly, so she got me off twice in 90 minutes, a first for me!

That was the good Lili. Now comes the sad part. We cleaned up, dressed and went downstairs to pay. As I was paying Lili showed me a text on her phone asking me to buy a "membership" for RMB 3, 000 which would include three massages plus one free massage. I declined, I can't hide 3, 000 from my SO so there is no way I can do this. But Lili hung all over me, begging and pleading (in Chinese of course, she speaks zero English) for me to buy this membership. Finally I had to just push her away and leave the shop.

So now I'm thinking the added passion, the thong underwear and the two pops was all designed to get me to buy the "membership", and not an increased comfort with me as a repeat customer. I'm bummed! I was hoping I was building a good business relationship between the two of us, both getting what we want. Maybe I was wrong. I may never to back. Or, dog that I am, I may wait several weeks, go back to Lili and see if the service has decreased to a more mechanical level or if it stays as high-level as my second visit.

Is this a common Business Model for massage joints? Simply play you for a membership commitment?

I was in Shanghai in January. Many thanks to several Shanghai board regulars who gave me many great suggestions about Shanghai by PM!

I went to 2 BBS areas and 2 MPs. This report is about the BBS. I'll post another report about the MPs.

The first BBS area I went to was near Longyang Lu subway station. The BBS are on Dujuan Street and Yinghua Street. Both of those streets have about 6 or 7 BBS. Thanks to ISG member Frittobuger who posted on the board about this location previously and also updated me by PM.

Some very hot girls in these BBS. I went into a few shops and it was hard to decide! I chose a hottie who later told me she was 21 years old and from Changsha in Hunan Province. Very pretty and great body.

200 RMB for FS with BJ. Not surprisingly, the girl at first wanted a much higher price asking for 400 for FS or 500 for FS with BJ. After some bargaining, the price came down to 300 for FS with BJ. I politely said that was too much and started to leave, at this point she agreed to 200.

Good service and I left a happy man! The BJ was very quick and she refused longer but everything else was fine. Great sex with her on top, then doggy style.

I was also impressed with the cleaniness of the room and a generally 'nice' environment. Much better than other BBS I've been to in China. I'm not sure if the cleanliness of this place is common for Shanghai or was just 'luck'.

The other BBS area I went to was on Anyuan Lu. From Changde Lu, head west on Anyuan Lu. Several BBS in a cluster between Jiaozhou Road and Changde Road on the north side of Anyuan Lu.

Girls in this area not as hot as the Longyang Lu area but definitely acceptable! LOL. Plenty of girls in their 20s to chose from. Again. 200 for FS with BJ after bargaining down from a much higher price. I had a good time and was happy with what I got. BJ rushed but FS fine with her on top then missionary position.

Both of these areas were good and I recommend both of them for anyone looking for BBS. But be prepared to bargain down from a much higher asking price. You will need to know a little Chinese for this as there is no English speaking in most of most of these shops. But you don't need to be a Chinese language expert! Knowing numbers and a few basic phrases should be enough.

Irv

I was in Shanghai in January and had a great time at 2 MPs in the Jing'An area. ISG member Xikang Lu posted about both these places last year.

The first place I went to was:

[QUOTE=XikangLu; 1315785][B]be) Massage at Shaanxi Bei Lu. Between Xinfeng Lu and Anyuan, next to a minimart. FUCKING HEAVEN. [/B][/QUOTE]Xikang Lu said last year it was his favourite place in Jing'An.

It's still very good! Cute girls. I had a great massage with HE for 200 RMB. Total time about 1 hour. 23 year old cutie from Zhejiang province. Cute and good body. She offered BJ or FS for extra. So, more than a HE is available here but that could depend on the girl.

Another place Xikang Lu posted about was:

[QUOTE=XikangLu; 1315785][B]the) Massage places on Yuyao Lu, west from Changde Lu[/B]

There are 2 massage places here. The first one advertises 'foot massage' with little yellow signs outside a nice purple-lighted counter.

This one has GORGEOUS GIRLS. Most of them are just sitting in the welcome area, right at the entrance. These girls are among the most beautiful masseuses I've seen in my 3 years mongering Shanghai. No joke. 8/10-10/10.[/QUOTE]I had a very good massage with HE for 200RMB. The girl I chose was a 21 year old cutie from Zhejiang Province. Very cute, great body. Excellent oil massage including tongue massage that drove me crazy! LOL Again, extras were offered. I went again a few days later and had another great massage form a different hottie! .

I recommend both these places for anyone looking for a good MP in the Jing'An area. For value for money, I thought these MPs were better options than the BBS I went to in Shanghai (which I have posted about in a different report).

[QUOTE=Straffman; 1392873]I find it hard to believe that all escorts are working only through agencies and the only good ones are those recommended by Shanghai Nightlife Guide.

I have been looking at the website enjoycitycn and there are loads of girls, many of whom seem from the photos to be as they suggest, part time escorts etc etc.

Has anyone any experience of this site or any agencies that are not lying / cheating etc and deliver whast they say on the tin etc.[/QUOTE]Interesting option. If you do a bit of Tineye research there are definitely some fakes listed, but then again there are plenty with no Tineye hits at all so perhaps there are some real girls mixed in there. I may take one for the team and report back. In Shanghai in a couple weeks.

Bodi. I feel like I'm piling on with more negativity, but here's my report. I'm a white guy speaking only English. Got some advice from others and went for it. Thursday Evening at 9:45pm.

Good parts: it's a well organized and oiled machine of a place. I was treated well all the way through the maze. Price as predicted 880rmb. I felt safe through all of it. Afterwards Taxi came in 3 minutes.

Bad parts: No fishbowl. I was given the choice of 4 girls standing in the hall at the bottom of the stairs. 2 unattractive. 1 refusing to make eye contact.

OK parts: I might have been rushed through the whole experience, but being a first timers was likely the reason. I hastily chose #626. She is cute and in her 20's so I was comfortable. Next time I figure if I'm not happy with the offering I can ask for more girls. I was politely offered the second girl, but refused. The girl is skinnier than I prefer, but had nice tits. Not a lick of English spoken. Shower table was quick and bed service was mechanical. There was a problem with size and fit. I'm not big by porn star standards, but I was big enough that she was not enjoying the FS so I told her a HJ finish was OK.

Manhattan.

Saturday evening went like this:

Dinner out with other buddies from the West. Went to Malone's for beers. It was busy, but a complete 'sausage fest' there. I broke off to Judy's to see what was happening there. It was dead. Joined the buddies again, and we decided to walk to Manhattan. None of us had been to these places before. I was overwhelmed at Manhattan with how busy it was and the 3 or 4 girl to one guy ratio at 11:30. Every lady was respectful of us guys I was with as our status was as undecided patrons. I decided to smile at a pretty lady and chat just to keep busy. Her English was flawless, she was older and not as skinny as the other young girls. Her name was Ping. We hit is off, and ended up splitting from my friends who went to drink elsewhere. Back at my hotel we had a ton of fun and she stuck around until 4 when she figured she could make one more run at Manhattan's for a morning client.

Mahattan is not a mystery to this board, but if you're short on time and want a massive fishbowl experience then try it. Prices did vary as all us guys were offered from 1200rmb to 3000rmb for 'long stay'.

Cheers to all of you here for your tips and advice. I'll see Shanghai again sometime soon.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1393216]Is this a common Business Model for massage joints? Simply play you for a membership commitment?[/QUOTE]The girls normally work a rota, a customer who asks for a girl by name or number is doubly welcome as the girl still retains her turn in the rota, thus having extra income for the day. In addition the girl receives a fat percentage of the price of a VIP card, which, incidentally, also gives the customer a heavy discount, probably 40, and naturally binds you to the establishment! Win all round! FZ

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1379718]Shyxq and aishedes (

[url]http://www.aishedes.com/thread-44480-1-1.html[/url]

Still no luck finding her.[/QUOTE]Even if I am quoting myself in fact this is for Bluejay55 and

After some schedule problems 2 days ago I was able to meet this gem discovered by Golly Woggle and described in post #6297. The QQ girl allowed me to post her qq number since she is willing to have more laowai friends. Finding her was really difficult so here you have it: 1054374464. She speaks almost no english but be patience and use a translator. Her phone number is on her QQ (the one she uses for work. I am not sure how but I have her personal number).

She is a nice girl with pretty big (fake) tits who will give you the full sauna experience in her own house (pudong, near a metro station). Except for the not very deep BJ she offer a really good service. Agree with her about the damage (similar to most of the saunas) and be patient in order to make the appointment.

Tip1: don't go if you are allergic to dogs!

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1352394]I was who recommended the #8 with the impressive tits. She left around 1-2 months ago, probably at the same time the place changed their massage offer. Before they had several options being the most popular the CBJ with obviously cover CIM. I guess my little friend (19yo) did not want to provide the such service by default (don't blame her at all). She is now in a massage place in Pudong where they charge 380rmb for a fantastic back massage according to her (I am not crossing half town for a back massage at that rate, even for those massive tits).

I've been once after they changed the menu and paid 346 with the VIP card, which I cut and disposed after getting out of the place. Almost all the nice girls working there left.

Close to that massage place there is another one: in the same cross, in the south west of shaanxi. Looks like they also made an upgrade and now they offer some BBBJ without CIM. I paid 200 but maybe it was kind of a promo. Facilities are not as good as in the other place but acceptable. Girls slightly over the average.[/QUOTE]Last time somebody asked me for the new massage place address in pudong for number 8 but communication with this girl is really bad or she did not want to tell me. However looks like she is back in the original place (buddha massage place in Changping lu, cross with shanxi lu) with the number 5.

Happy hunting!

Went to hongsong, quite easy to find. It's inside the hilton hotel (the address was posted earlier) at the door they might ask you where you're going, just say hongsong and they'll know. As I recall there was a subtle sign out front that looked like "HS" and it had arrows pointing into the hotel. 4th floor. This place seemed very busy. I didn't even change and shower prior, they took me right to the fishbowl with about 10 other guys. It wasn't a huge selection, but quite a lot to choose from, perhaps 20-30 if I recall. I remember someone said it was closer to 70 or more, that just didn't seem possible. Anyways, I found one I liked and acted fast. 65. Highly recommend. Extremely slim and tall, adorable face, stereotype of what Chinese guys like, actually. She apparently is very popular with foreigners, they always seem to pick her, probably the best overall looking of the group. Had a great attitude, and easy to talk with, YMMV, she said she felt more comfortable with me because we could communicate well. Despite her being very tight, there were absolutely no protests or complaints about size. She also didn't have that fake attitude either, seemed fairly genuine (or, she was good at faking it, either way works for me). All in all, HongSong is 100 more than other saunas, and if you have the time, I'd say it's worth it, facilities are also very nice. Also people, if you've got time afterward, relax on a chair, have free drinks and food. A lot of people don't realize that's always on offer at saunas.

Also, I'd like to give a QQ recommendation. Now, I didn't personally see her, but she seems like a winner. First, when I said I was a foreigner, she was the first girl that seemed excited about it. She was happy to serve, not reluctant or afraid. Secondly, and more importantly, she claims to be an ex-sauna girl, who trained other girls. Supposedly she can deep throat, and is very good at many positions. I figure you guys like that kinda thing. She's slightly older. 26 perhaps? Not old at all, when I think about it, but I tend to pick the 19 year olds. Her QQ is 2694908254. Only downside, she seems to live in Baoshan. 500 1 pop.

Another QQ recommendation. She didn't say whether foreigners are alright, but I assume it'll be fine. This girl is a part time model and pole dancer. She has a pole set up in her apartment and can give you a private show. Supposedly, she's very good at it, I read some Chinese reviews on her and they were impressed. Not cheap, I think it's at least 600 with her, maybe more for all kinds of kinky pole dancing. But hey, maybe you guys miss the whole stripper experience. QQ 2298795808. Also she's not online much but you should be able to call her cell, try [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Obviously, no english spoken by either.

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[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1393031]The Barbershops will be too dirty, most massage shops will not have such a great selection of girls, so I think the best chance to find what you are looking for will be a sauna. You can check the forum here, there are several famous sauna clubs in Shanghai. Search for Bodi. 999, Jun hao, Hai Lang (New Waves) , Si Yuan or Hong Song.

Rate will be between 590 to 890 for a 60 to 90 minutes session.[/QUOTE]Thanks, just what I want. I like the sauna scene in Shanghai from the only experience out there.

BushWhack,

I simply love your report. Well the first part at least.

I tried to PM you, but not sure if you received it.

I basically have 2 questions for you:

- What massage did you take on the menu? I have read other reports on Fino, where people just got straight massages; and that is not what I want.

- Do you have Lili phone number? (and are you OK to share? Fully understand if you want to keep the jewel for yourself).

Thanks.

DL.

[QUOTE=BushWhack;1393216]Returned to Fino massage on Dagu Road (posted about my amazing HE with Lili two weeks ago) , this time I chose the 90 minutes session for 780 RMB. Earlier I texed Lili to make sure she was in the shop, and I think these girls get a larger cut of the payment if they've been requested. Lili met me when I arrived, all smiles and a few hugs. Again we walked by about eight small rooms, up two flights of stairs to a smaller area with only two or three rooms. Room was very clean with a small shower. Lili started the hot water in the shower while I undressed. I showered, sat on the bed and waited for Lili. She came in, put me on the bed and started the massage. Just like last time she sprinkled some oil on me but just used her fingertips to caress my back, ass, legs, arms etc. Then she took off all her clothes but once again left her panties on, but this time she was wearing small, black thong rather than the grannie undies she wore the first time. She climbed on my back, massaged me with her small breasts and ground her pussy into my tailbone and up and down my spine, I could feel her wetness. She flipped me over, climbed on me once again and slid her pussy up and down my rock-hard penis. I alternated between caressing her small tits and squeezing that nice, tight ass. This time she let me slide her panties down to her thighs so I could have free access to her ass. She is very high-energy, and moved and vibrated herself, shaking and wiggling like a crazy lady! She gave some very nice BBBJ, which was not included two weeks ago. Then she turned around, reverse-cowgirl style, with her panties down around her thighs she slid her pussy up and down my penis, I could hear the slurping noise of her very wet pussy. She bent over so her forhead was near my knees, I could grab her ass as if we were doing doggy style. But there was not actual penetration, but my penis did not understand that! After several minutes of this simulated doggy-style I blew my load. I do not cum easily and was very surprised she got me off like this, with no penetration. But it was great. She cleaned me up, the continued the massage. Part of it was a real massage, but she also spent plenty of time stroking me until I was hard again, then she oiled up my penis and jacked me off in just a few minutes. Again I was surprised I came so quickly, so she got me off twice in 90 minutes, a first for me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rooroo3; 1393501]Bodi. I feel like I'm piling on with more negativity, but here's my report. I'm a white guy speaking only English. Got some advice from others and went for it. Thursday Evening at 9:45pm.

Good parts: it's a well organized and oiled machine of a place. I was treated well all the way through the maze. Price as predicted 880rmb. I felt safe through all of it. Afterwards Taxi came in 3 minutes.

Bad parts: No fishbowl. I was given the choice of 4 girls standing in the hall at the bottom of the stairs. 2 unattractive. 1 refusing to make eye contact.

OK parts: I might have been rushed through the whole experience, but being a first timers was likely the reason. I hastily chose #626. She is cute and in her 20's so I was comfortable. Next time I figure if I'm not happy with the offering I can ask for more girls. I was politely offered the second girl, but refused. The girl is skinnier than I prefer, but had nice tits. Not a lick of English spoken. Shower table was quick and bed service was mechanical. There was a problem with size and fit. I'm not big by porn star standards, but I was big enough that she was not enjoying the FS so I told her a HJ finish was OK.[/QUOTE]I wrote an earlier review here about a disappointing experience at Bodi with. You guessed it. #626. She was pretty and thin which I liked, but she was standoffish and rushed me. This was back in August or September. My suspicion is that Bodi is reserving the fishbowl and better girls for the regulars and offering we one hit wonders whatever is available otherwise with a hallway lineup of 4. I think I'm done with Bodi for now unless the reviews on here get better. Name was Fei Fei, correct?

Can anyone help with the direction to Merrylin?

[QUOTE=ABC69;1394313]Can anyone help with the direction to Merrylin?[/QUOTE]The Sauna is located on the 3rd floor of the Merrylin Hotel in Pudong Shanghai.

The place is easy to find.

Si Yuan Massage.

&24605; &28304; &20465; &20048; &37096;

&24352; &26472; &36335; 818&21495; &65292; 3&27004;

Zhang Yang Lu 818, third floor, Pudong.

Phone: 0086-21-5835-2111.

Enjoy Shanghai

[QUOTE=ABC69;1392838]Being new, where can I go for some safe fun in Shanghai? I want a clean environment with pretty girls. Please help! It's been a while.[/QUOTE]Recommend Bilihu International Sauna Club with sexy girls.

[QUOTE=Masslin;1394665]Recommend Bilihu International Sauna Club with sexy girls.[/QUOTE]Rate for a full sex session: 700 RMB daytime (leave before 7 pm).800 RMB nighttime

[QUOTE=ABC69;1394313]Can anyone help with the direction to Merrylin?[/QUOTE] Opposite Intercontinental Hotel in Pudong. You can't miss it. It is in the corner

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1394665]Recommend Bilihu International Sauna Club with sexy girls.[/QUOTE]Masslin. Who are you? You post links and copies of various ads so I can't believe you're a shill. Are you just a really helpful guy? Have you had experience with all of these? Please explain yourself.

[QUOTE=Stegram;1394972]Masslin. Who are you? You post links and copies of various ads so I can't believe you're a shill. Are you just a really helpful guy? Have you had experience with all of these? Please explain yourself.[/QUOTE]I'm not a shill, I just want suggest some places or some girls to the right person. If you feel uncomfortable, just forgotting me.

Another purpose, I want collect some useful massage information from the froum. It's nice of you to help me.

[QUOTE=Stegram;1394972]Masslin. Who are you? You post links and copies of various ads so I can't believe you're a shill. Are you just a really helpful guy? Have you had experience with all of these? Please explain yourself.[/QUOTE]I have the same feeling as well.

Finally got the chance to visit Shanghai and felt obliged to try out some of the Sauna's ID found out about through ISG.

Since I'd heard such great things about JunHao I thought I would try that one first.

I was sorely disappointed, granted I did go just after the CNY but the selection I got was awful. 4 girls just kind of standing around looking extremely uninterested. The highly billed stage area where you are treated to a parade of girls was no more than a small underlit stage where like I said the girls were just kinda standing there. I asked for more girls and was told there was none. Now normally I would have just left but the place was so hard to get to that I didn't want to leave empty handed so I chose the best of the bad bunch and proceeded to the massage room. Service was pretty good and the girl was actually really nice and gave a great BJ and it was the first time I'd had a NURU so that was cool.

So after that rubbish I decided the next night to check out 999. Much better location and easy to find. They actually have a sauna you can enjoy before getting robed up and the service was excellent from the locker room guys. So far so good.

After I'm ready I'm led directly to the fishbowl where I'm greeted by about 12 girls this time and all nicer than what was available at JunHao. I pick a really cute small typical Chinese girl as that's what I like and we walk arm in arm to the room. I loved this girl. Great to talk to, excellent soapy and BBBJ. Great body which I could see from all sorts of angles due to the multiple mirrors in the room. Nice!

So to wrap up. This was my first time in Shanghai and I would definitely recommend 999 sauna 880RMB all inclusive. Friendly staff and friendly girls, easy to find and get to, nice facilities, all in all just a good time.

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1395053]I'm not a shill, I just want suggest some places or some girls to the right person. If you feel uncomfortable, just forgotting me.

Another purpose, I want collect some useful massage information from the froum. It's nice of you to help me.[/QUOTE]No, I didn't think you were a shill. I'm just wondering because you post these ads and they don't seem to come from the same place. Have you seen these girls you post? Or are you just passing along an ad that you saw? If you have seen them and can vouch for the authenticity, please tell us. You posted LINDA's ad recently. Have you seen her?

[QUOTE=Stegram;1395390]No, I didn't think you were a shill. I'm just wondering because you post these ads and they don't seem to come from the same place. Have you seen these girls you post? Or are you just passing along an ad that you saw? If you have seen them and can vouch for the authenticity, please tell us. You posted LINDA's ad recently. Have you seen her?[/QUOTE]Tell you the truth I didn't see the girls that I posted. I just said I collect some useful information from the froum and other websites and share with you some tips. If you feel uncomfortable, just forgetting me.

I had planned to be in Shanghai for 5 days and before I left did a lot of research on ISG and also used Shanghai Nightlife Guide and so had identified where I wanted to go to Saunas, in calls and Mnahattan. I Wanted to go to KTV but thought on my own would be an overpriced experience. If I had had more time then I would have gone to other bars and places but as usual my ideas were more than I could handle and I also wanted to see Shanghai.

Day 1

After arriving at 10. 00 am I was off to a sauna to unwind. My first choice was hong Song hot spring clubhouse. It was Saturday afternoon about 3. 30 when I arrived and easy to find if you followed directions that were out there on the web. No need to pay for a subscription for Shanghai Nightlife Guide in my opinion. Although it deserves it as it makes life much easier for anyone mongering. When I arrived I was put in a waiting room wih other Chinese and it appeared to be very busy. It was and they took me to the fishbowl which must have had about 25 girls. I thought a lot were very attractive and I quickly chose a girl whose number I forget. We then had to wait in a corridor for a room to come available and I watched for about 20 minutes girls coming and going past with other men. There was a huge selection and one or two stunners that I liked. Young tall Chinese with great boobs. My girl was cute but didn't speak a work of english and we went to the room where I got the usual service performed well. I particularly liked the washing and ass lick and thought it was a great place and that I would go back if I was in shanghai again. It is more expensive than some others but I guess you pay for what you get.

About 10. Pm I was out again and went to Manhattan where I was quickly attracted to a girl with red lipstick and red dress from Hanoi. I asked for LT and she asked for 2000. Against my offer of 1500. She had a great smile and I realise I make my choice based entirely on a look in the eye, a good smile and great body. Anyhow about 30 minutes later she had not reduced her price and wanted 2000 still. She told me she was the best looking girl there and that was her price. I agreed reluctantly.

So back to my hotel and she was lovely. Great shared shower, BBBJ and sex in lots of positions. Went to sleep and then again in morning. Sex was good, her English was excellent and she ticked all the boxes for me. Skin so smooth and soft compared to Europeans.

[QUOTE=Fraze1314; 1395127]Finally got the chance to visit Shanghai and felt obliged to try out some of the Sauna's I'd found out about through ISG.

Since I'd heard such great things about JunHao I thought I would try that one first.

I was sorely disappointed, granted I did go just after the CNY but the selection I got was awful. 4 girls just kind of standing around looking extremely uninterested. The highly billed stage area where you are treated to a parade of girls was no more than a small underlit stage where like I said the girls were just kinda standing there. I asked for more girls and was told there was none. Now normally I would have just left but the place was so hard to get to that I didn't want to leave empty handed so I chose the best of the bad bunch and proceeded to the massage room. Service was pretty good and the girl was actually really nice and gave a great BJ and it was the first time I'd had a NURU so that was cool.

So after that rubbish I decided the next night to check out 999. Much better location and easy to find. They actually have a sauna you can enjoy before getting robed up and the service was excellent from the locker room guys. So far so good.

After I'm ready I'm led directly to the fishbowl where I'm greeted by about 12 girls this time and all nicer than what was available at JunHao. I pick a really cute small typical Chinese girl as that's what I like and we walk arm in arm to the room. I loved this girl. Great to talk to, excellent soapy and BBBJ. Great body which I could see from all sorts of angles due to the multiple mirrors in the room. Nice!

So to wrap up. This was my first time in Shanghai and I would definitely recommend 999 sauna 880RMB all inclusive. Friendly staff and friendly girls, easy to find and get to, nice facilities, all in all just a good time.[/QUOTE]Well done, Fraze1314. 999 sauna will be included in my menu for Shanghai mongering.

This story happened to a friend of mine. And I believe every single word of it as I know this guy more than 20 years now. He is new to China and Shanghai. Last week he was walking down Nanjing road around 8. 00 pm whwn a woman approached him and offered cheap massage and sex in a nearby place. He followed her to a place just behind "FOREVER 21" shop, where he could chose a girl out of a lineup of 7-8 girls. He was told that he can get massage and sex for 100 RMB. What he paid in advance.

In the room the girl started a bit of massage and ended very fast with HJ and suddenly she left the room. 2 aggresive big Chinese guys just came in and showed him an invoice of 20'000 RMB and said he must pay for the girls and the drinks. (all what he got was a bottle of water). The guys were really very agressive and he just handed them the credit card, signed and left.

Everyone can imagine how happy he was to get out of this shit hole. But he decided to go to the police. He tried to talk to policemen on the street but nobody can speak english. At Hotel Sofitel he asked the concierge for the directions to the police station. The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared!

My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.

[QUOTE=Straffman; 1395419]I guess you pay for what you get.

About 10. Pm I was out again and went to Manhattan where I was quickly attracted to a girl with red lipstick and red dress from Hanoi. I asked for LT and she asked for 2000. Against my offer of 1500. She had a great smile and I realise I make my choice based entirely on a look in the eye, a good smile and great body. Anyhow about 30 minutes later she had not reduced her price and wanted 2000 still. She told me she was the best looking girl there and that was her price. I agreed reluctantly.

So back to my hotel and she was lovely. Great shared shower, BBBJ and sex in lots of positions. Went to sleep and then again in morning. Sex was good, her English was excellent and she ticked all the boxes for me. Skin so smooth and soft compared to Europeans.[/QUOTE]She told you she was the best looking girl there. She knew it and I guess you knew it, too. As long as you thought you got good value for the money, that's really all that counts. Looking forward to hearing about your other 4 days.

LD

[QUOTE=Masslin;1395412]Tell you the truth I didn't see the girls that I posted. I just said I collect some useful information from the froum and other websites and share with you some tips. If you feel uncomfortable, just forgetting me.[/QUOTE]No worries, Masslin. Keep doing what you do. Since you don't say something like,"I saw this ad and it looks interesting" we've all been confused. Now that you have clarified, we understand. Thanks

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1395645]This story happened to a friend of mine. And I believe every single word of it as I know this guy more than 20 years now. He is new to China and Shanghai. Last week he was walking down Nanjing road around 8. 00 pm whwn a woman approached him and offered cheap massage and sex in a nearby place. He followed her to a place just behind "FOREVER 21" shop, where he could chose a girl out of a lineup of 7-8 girls. He was told that he can get massage and sex for 100 RMB. What he paid in advance.

In the room the girl started a bit of massage and ended very fast with HJ and suddenly she left the room. 2 aggresive big Chinese guys just came in and showed him an invoice of 20'000 RMB and said he must pay for the girls and the drinks. (all what he got was a bottle of water). The guys were really very agressive and he just handed them the credit card, signed and left.

Everyone can imagine how happy he was to get out of this shit hole. But he decided to go to the police. He tried to talk to policemen on the street but nobody can speak english. At Hotel Sofitel he asked the concierge for the directions to the police station. The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared!

My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.[/QUOTE]Now he just has to call VISA or MC and tell them he was swindled and never signed the thing or that he was forced to sign and he'll get his 20, 000 Back too! 18, 000 RMB profit.

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1395645]The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared!

My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.[/QUOTE]The first part of the story is not a news. I think it will happen several times every day, even worth for a own name "Nanjing Lu Scam". But really weird is, that the guy in the hotel arranged to give back a huge amount of this money. They will give back, if you can make enough pressure, for example if you know some "important" people in Shanghai or you have someone who can bring the police on the road, but a guy standing beside him in the hotel arranged it. Weird!

I am a native Chinese but now living in New York. I take couple of time back to Shanghai (mu home town) every year and staying at hotels there. And of course I try to have some fun with local girls, normally those I found on QQ or WeChat, I don't go to Sauna as I'd rather to try those part timer girls on internet.

The girl I met last year there was from HongKou district and she told that she's a apparel sales in day time and doing part time at night. I found her on WeChat and we agreed on the price. 500 RMB plus return taxi fees, normal rate here in Shanghai. I waited for 30 minutes until getting her in the lobby of hotel and brought her to my room. She looks good on face and has a slim body and nice ass! We began the ISO process after she took a bath in my booth and we tried everything, I would have asked her stay the whole night with me but just felt too tired to to that at the moment. It was a nice experience there and I will definitely call her again when I am back.

PM me if you want her number, and I'd like to exchange numbers with you guys who had experience there via PM too!

Arron

[QUOTE=Sarawak50;1395645]-- But he decided to go to the police. He tried to talk to policemen on the street but nobody can speak english. At Hotel Sofitel he asked the concierge for the directions to the police station. The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared! My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.[/QUOTE]I would have been very very careful to go to Police. An acquaintance of mine did so after a scam. In a matter of horus his position changed upside down. From victim to one having had sex in bar premises, as proved by a video of him a girl and a condom (full). Advice given to him by the consulate: get out of the country immediately and never plan to come back. His company arranged a quick escape with the first comemrcial flight, he lost his job and I do not know how his wedding has gone since he had to explain ack home why he came back all of a sudden and why he lost the job.

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1395645]This story happened to a friend of mine. And I believe every single word of it as I know this guy more than 20 years now.

Everyone can imagine how happy he was to get out of this shit hole. But he decided to go to the police. He tried to talk to policemen on the street but nobody can speak english. At Hotel Sofitel he asked the concierge for the directions to the police station. The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared!

My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.[/QUOTE]I am truly amazed that he got 18, 000 RMB back. If you go back several pages in the forum, you'll read some other horror stories like this one. Repeating again. Stay away from touts.

LD

So today I decided to try an Incall and went to unforgettableshanghai. Blog. Com. Some good reports on this forum. The girl on the phone was very helpful and said her friend Nan Nan was available and would be with me at 11. 00. 11. 30 arrives and no sign but then a knock on the door and this ugly short girl is there. Nothing like the photos and I send her away. Another call and she says she will send me someone else. Ok I said and 15 minutes a rather pretty girl arrived. I agree 1800 for 2 hrs. She looked ok and too quickly with no foreplay etc was straight into BBBJ. After a few moments she stops and says. What tip will I be giving her. F off I said and she carried on teeth and all. This is a big mistake my brain thought but willie boy had other ideas and she slipped on a condom and a few minutes later it was over. I go to the bathroom and return to see her dressed. What are you doing. One time or 2 hrs she said. I forgot to mention that I had stupidly paid when she came in the room. Off she went and I was pleased to see the back of her. Well you learn by your mistakes and the advice on the forum that agencies were no good seemed to be correct.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1395725]The first part of the story is not a news. I think it will happen several times every day, even worth for a own name "Nanjing Lu Scam". But really weird is, that the guy in the hotel arranged to give back a huge amount of this money. They will give back, if you can make enough pressure, for example if you know some "important" people in Shanghai or you have someone who can bring the police on the road, but a guy standing beside him in the hotel arranged it. Weird![/QUOTE]This guy who said he's the boss of the club was actually one of accomplices. Usually just as the victim leaves, that sort of guy will secretly follow watching what action he will take. When the action being thought serious and harmful to them, he will jump out and say he's the boss of the club or something like that and promise to pay the money back avoiding running into trouble themselves.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1395794]I would have been very very careful to go to Police. An acquaintance of mine did so after a scam. In a matter of horus his position changed upside down. From victim to one having had sex in bar premises, as proved by a video of him a girl and a condom (full). Advice given to him by the consulate: get out of the country immediately and never plan to come back. His company arranged a quick escape with the first comemrcial flight, he lost his job and I do not know how his wedding has gone since he had to explain ack home why he came back all of a sudden and why he lost the job.[/QUOTE]Yes, agree with you on this point, for one of my friends had a similarly dreadful experience of that kind. So be very very careful to go to police after that sort of scam involving paid sex.

Walked along Wuzhong Lu some days ago. Seems that all BBS are back to business after the spring holidays. Most of shops have plenty of girls to choose. Ended up at Hongsong Lu which is parallel to Wuzhong Lu. Rates are standard 200 RMB for FS and BJ. Got this offer even as laowei. Service and environment are pretty much average.

[QUOTE=Straffman;1395844]So today I decided to try an Incall and went to unforgettableshanghai. Blog. Com. Some good reports on this forum. The girl on the phone was very helpful and said her friend Nan Nan was available and would be with me at 11. 00. 11. 30 arrives and no sign but then a knock on the door and this ugly short girl is there. Nothing like the photos and I send her away. Another call and she says she will send me someone else. Ok I said and 15 minutes a rather pretty girl arrived. I agree 1800 for 2 hrs. She looked ok and too quickly with no foreplay etc was straight into BBBJ. After a few moments she stops and says. What tip will I be giving her. F off I said and she carried on teeth and all. This is a big mistake my brain thought but willie boy had other ideas and she slipped on a condom and a few minutes later it was over. I go to the bathroom and return to see her dressed. What are you doing. One time or 2 hrs she said. I forgot to mention that I had stupidly paid when she came in the room. Off she went and I was pleased to see the back of her. Well you learn by your mistakes and the advice on the forum that agencies were no good seemed to be correct.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that, but it's really useful to us as we can avoid using this lousy incall supplier. So many good saunas can we go for in Shanghai, there seems to be no need to use incall.

a friend of mine had this happen and he did not go with a tout. he was staying at the howard johnson hotel on jiu jiang road, just one block away from nanjing road. he went to one of the massage parlors near the hotel (he does not know which one it was, unfortunately) and was brought to a waiting room. a girl came in and he had a quick session, not even full service. then the big guys came in the room and shook him down. they also wanted 18, 000 rmb so i wonder if this is the same place. they gave the speech about "americans coming here and screwing our girls." he got out with just giving them the cash he had, about $300, but they kept him in the room for a half hour. five guys were in the room at the end. it's scary that this can happen even when you don't go with touts. i went to three massage parlors on hankou road near there recently, and i did not have any problems. but now i am afraid. i wish he could remember which place this happened at.

First part ok.

Second part with a guy following just in case. Ok.

Third part getting back 18k. Don't buy it.

[QUOTE=Stegram;1395714]Now he just has to call VISA or MC and tell them he was swindled and never signed the thing or that he was forced to sign and he'll get his 20, 000 Back too! 18, 000 RMB profit.[/QUOTE]+1

[QUOTE=Straffman;1395844]So today I decided to try an Incall and went to unforgettableshanghai. Blog. Com. Some good reports on this forum. The girl on the phone was very helpful and said her friend Nan Nan was available and would be with me at 11. 00. 11. 30 arrives and no sign but then a knock on the door and this ugly short girl is there. Nothing like the photos and I send her away. Another call and she says she will send me someone else. Ok I said and 15 minutes a rather pretty girl arrived. I agree 1800 for 2 hrs. She looked ok and too quickly with no foreplay etc was straight into BBBJ. After a few moments she stops and says. What tip will I be giving her. F off I said and she carried on teeth and all. This is a big mistake my brain thought but willie boy had other ideas and she slipped on a condom and a few minutes later it was over. I go to the bathroom and return to see her dressed. What are you doing. One time or 2 hrs she said. I forgot to mention that I had stupidly paid when she came in the room. Off she went and I was pleased to see the back of her. Well you learn by your mistakes and the advice on the forum that agencies were no good seemed to be correct.[/QUOTE]I also have a couple of months a really bad experience with unforgettableshanghai:

- first girl to come in not only is not the one I wanted but also as ugly and wrongly shaped as a [blue][Text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING Deleted by Admin][/blue]

- After waiting an extra half an hour the second girl is still not the want I wanted but at least is an 8, with 1kg or 2 of make up. I said ok and she inmmediately try to bargain the price.

Sent her home, not even taxi fare was paid, and visited 999 for a quick one.

Unforgettable Shanghai? Bullshit bullshit bullshit.

[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was redacted or deleted because it was written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u]. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[quote=puttputt509;1396093]a friend of mine had this happen and he did not go with a tout. he was staying at the howard johnson hotel on jiu jiang road, just one block away from nanjing road. he went to one of the massage parlors near the hotel (he does not know which one it was, unfortunately) and was brought to a waiting room. a girl came in and he had a quick session, not even full service. then the big guys came in the room and shook him down. they also wanted 18, 000 rmb so i wonder if this is the same place. they gave the speech about "americans coming here and screwing our girls." he got out with just giving them the cash he had, about $300, but they kept him in the room for a half hour. five guys were in the room at the end. it's scary that this can happen even when you don't go with touts. i went to three massage parlors on hankou road near there recently, and i did not have any problems. but now i am afraid. i wish he could remember which place this happened at.[/quote]the lesson there is not to engage in any kind of transaction in or around nanjing road. it is well known as the hunting ground for most of the scam artists in town, from shoeshine to massage. if you follow the advice on this forum you shouldn't go far wrong.

[QUOTE=LittleJancis; 1395765]I am a native Chinese but now living in New York. I take couple of time back to Shanghai (mu home town) every year and staying at hotels there. And of course I try to have some fun with local girls, normally those I found on QQ or WeChat, I don't go to Sauna as I'd rather to try those part timer girls on internet.

The girl I met last year there was from HongKou district and she told that she's a apparel sales in day time and doing part time at night. I found her on WeChat and we agreed on the price. 500 RMB plus return taxi fees, normal rate here in Shanghai. I waited for 30 minutes until getting her in the lobby of hotel and brought her to my room. She looks good on face and has a slim body and nice ass! We began the ISO process after she took a bath in my booth and we tried everything, I would have asked her stay the whole night with me but just felt too tired to to that at the moment. It was a nice experience there and I will definitely call her again when I am back.

PM me if you want her number, and I'd like to exchange numbers with you guys who had experience there via PM too!

Arron[/QUOTE]I tried to PM you to get her number but your account won't accept it. I had a QQ recommendation for you. Only one, because I've found it very hard to meet any who are worth a repeat visit (as in my report a few months ago). I'm still trying, but it's tough!

I like certainty in my sex so what would be better I thought than Kelly from Shanghai nightlife. Great reviews and everyone who had been with her. Liked her. So I contacted her from abroad and arranged an overnight meeting for dinner and then LT. Not cheap but I wanted a good girl with good chat for an overnight. She arrived at 8 and off we went for dinner. Then in middle of dinner a phone call and she told me that she could only stay until 12 as another appointment. She was trying to double the fee by getting 3100 from me and from someone else. I guess a working girl is always a working girl where time is money. Back to the hotel for an 1. 5 hr of average sex- girl for half the price from Manhattan was better. She is good looking and has lovely skin and large boobs but not the GFE that she and other reviews make out. I was pissed off as I had fantasised about an all nighter with great girl who does everything and ended up with 1.5 hrs of virtually nothing

I was introduced to a Russian / Chinese mixed lady 35y by a old friend of mine from US, he was teaching here in sh, lucky bastard could get 20-23y Chinese chicks for free on pretext of giving them private coaching lessons.

We added each other on messenger had few plain cam, before actually meeting her why'day. She looked a vamp and was dressed very revealing. Her boobs was the real attraction, which my friend had assured, they real and great.

After lunch, I invited to my place, instead she suggested that we go her place, which was quite close, so we walked to her place. Just near her place she took me to China mobile counter and suggested to lend her 500rmb, she needs to pay her outstanding mobile bill. (that was second damage, apart from lunch bill)

Once at her place, we kissed each other and slowly undressed each other. She would be fat by Chinese standard, may be around 60kgs, with one of the best boobs I have ever seen in Chinese woman. 36C, well shaped, dark nipples and wonderful round butts.

She took command over me, and sucked me as if she going to pluck away my dick and swallow it. She did almost like a Pro, really enjoyed dick fucking her mouth and tits.

We started with a missionary, doggie, then she came cowboy and all this time, she was dominating me. I spanked her butts to red. Sure a great and hot **** on bed.

She even suggested she can call one of her friend to join us, but then it will cost me 1500 rmb.

I declined it, and suggested we keep it for next time.

Had over 2 hour session, with 2 pops, she sure was worth the money. Total GFE. No regrets

After we had shower together, she promised to take me to her group gradually.

It was nice sat afternoon, real cool fuck and fun.

I am trying to put a listing on CL, and it has now been flagged for removal three times. Strange, because Craig's List has straight forward ads for prostitutes (photos of women who say they will touch all parts of your body, etc". I highly doubt that you get the girl in the photo.

Here is what I wrote:

"Looking for a romantic guide. (Shanghai)

I am a business man on my way to Shanghai. I am looking for a nice, thin young woman to be my guide for three days and nights. I am very well mannered, educated, good looking and considerate. I am certain you will be pleased with the benefits of our relationship. Your photograph gets mine!"

WHY IS THIS GETTING FLAGGED?

This one just got flagged:

"Looking for a guide. 48 (Shanghai)

I am a business man on my way to Shanghai. I am looking for a nice, thin young woman to be my guide for three days and nights. Your photograph gets mine!"

Notice that there is nothing explicit or implicit in this message. I have no idea how to deal with Craig's list.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1396619]I am trying to put a listing on CL, and it has now been flagged for removal three times. Strange, because Craig's List has straight forward ads for prostitutes (photos of women who say they will touch all parts of your body, etc". I highly doubt that you get the girl in the photo."

Here is what I wrote:

"Looking for a romantic guide. (Shanghai)

I am a business man on my way to Shanghai. I am looking for a nice, thin young woman to be my guide for three days and nights. I am very well mannered, educated, good looking and considerate. I am certain you will be pleased with the benefits of our relationship. Your photograph gets mine!"

WHY IS THIS GETTING FLAGGED?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest; 1396619]I am trying to put a listing on CL, and it has now been flagged for removal three times. Strange, because Craig's List has straight forward ads for prostitutes (photos of women who say they will touch all parts of your body, etc". I highly doubt that you get the girl in the photo.

Here is what I wrote:

"Looking for a romantic guide. (Shanghai)

I am a business man on my way to Shanghai. I am looking for a nice, thin young woman to be my guide for three days and nights. I am very well mannered, educated, good looking and considerate. I am certain you will be pleased with the benefits of our relationship. Your photograph gets mine!"

WHY IS THIS GETTING FLAGGED?[/QUOTE]What category was your message put in? Probably in the inappropriate category.

[QUOTE=Vera Petrova;1396666]What category was your message put in? Probably in the inappropriate category.[/QUOTE]CL shanghai personals men seeking women

[QUOTE=Forest;1396786]CL shanghai personals men seeking women[/QUOTE]So not because of being put into the inappropriate category. Has any other message got flagged before because of violation of CL's terms? Otherwise, I don't know why either.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1396619]WHY IS THIS GETTING FLAGGED?[/QUOTE]I also had this problem before, and as I researched, it is impossible to place a listing, if your IP will show, you are not in that region. I am afraid, as long as CL will see you are out of Shanghai, they will not accept your listing.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1396619]I am trying to put a listing on CL, and it has now been flagged for removal three times. Strange, because Craig's List has straight forward ads for prostitutes (photos of women who say they will touch all parts of your body, etc". I highly doubt that you get the girl in the photo.

Here is what I wrote:

"Looking for a romantic guide. (Shanghai)

I am a business man on my way to Shanghai. I am looking for a nice, thin young woman to be my guide for three days and nights. I am very well mannered, educated, good looking and considerate. I am certain you will be pleased with the benefits of our relationship. Your photograph gets mine!"

WHY IS THIS GETTING FLAGGED?[/QUOTE]Some ladies who are active with ads told me about this.

It's usually a kind of a fight against the ads of competitors.

Everybody on CL can 'flag for removal'. It seems that after reaching a certain number of 'flags' an ad is removed without any check of content.

It's not understandable for me why you are the victim, - except somebody is testing this 'flagging for removal' randomly.


Deep Fritz

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1396816]I also had this problem before, and as I researched, it is impossible to place a listing, if your IP will show, you are not in that region. I am afraid, as long as CL will see you are out of Shanghai, they will not accept your listing.[/QUOTE]I can verify. That is the reason.

Oh, that's why. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1396816]I also had this problem before, and as I researched, it is impossible to place a listing, if your IP will show, you are not in that region. I am afraid, as long as CL will see you are out of Shanghai, they will not accept your listing.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nice Guy 99;1396835]I can verify. That is the reason.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1396256]First part ok.

Second part with a guy following just in case. Ok.

Third part getting back 18k. Don't buy it.

+1[/QUOTE]I would also be dubious that anyone would run your CC for 20K and then hand you back 18K cash for exactly the reason I stated above. Anyone who runs credit cards as part of a business knows that all it takes is a customer complaint to get charges reversed and the whole affair to go into "Visa Court" whereby both sides have to substantiate their claims. It would be easy for a punter to claim fraud or duress but difficult for a massage parlor to legitimately explain a 20K bill to Visa.

[QUOTE=Stegram;1396918]I would also be dubious that anyone would run your CC for 20K and then hand you back 18K cash for exactly the reason I stated above. Anyone who runs credit cards as part of a business knows that all it takes is a customer complaint to get charges reversed and the whole affair to go into "Visa Court" whereby both sides have to substantiate their claims. It would be easy for a punter to claim fraud or duress but difficult for a massage parlor to legitimately explain a 20K bill to Visa.[/QUOTE]Sounds it works. Thus the victim will get 18K profit. That's interesting, hahahhh

The Friday before last I had the desire for a good dark beer and there is nothing better then a fresh Salvator that is available during lent. Since I was by myself I decided to hang out at the bar at the Paulaner. I must admit I had no idea how much of a working place it had become. There were about a dozen working girls swarming in less then five minutes after I got in. Now it was Friday night and the place was packed, but it still surprised me. My first interest was in the beer and I did not feel any urges that said I have to have a pick up, so I played it cool. However a girl named Jasmine did catch my interest. When I finally asked what the price is she said 2k which just made me laugh and I politely declined. However she hung around and it was getting close to closing time. I was ready to leave and call it a night, but she kept asking me to take her home. I told her that our expectations are a little far apart and again declined. After a lot back and forth we settle on 1k which is more the going rate. She was cute, and a clean freak which works for me, but the experience was average and not memorable. So there will be no repeat.

It is tough finding a good local pro, so if you have high expectations, Jasmine will not be able to fill them.

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1395645]This story happened to a friend of mine. And I believe every single word of it as I know this guy more than 20 years now. He is new to China and Shanghai. Last week he was walking down Nanjing road around 8. 00 pm whwn a woman approached him and offered cheap massage and sex in a nearby place. He followed her to a place just behind "FOREVER 21" shop, where he could chose a girl out of a lineup of 7-8 girls. He was told that he can get massage and sex for 100 RMB. What he paid in advance.

In the room the girl started a bit of massage and ended very fast with HJ and suddenly she left the room. 2 aggresive big Chinese guys just came in and showed him an invoice of 20'000 RMB and said he must pay for the girls and the drinks. (all what he got was a bottle of water). The guys were really very agressive and he just handed them the credit card, signed and left.

Everyone can imagine how happy he was to get out of this shit hole. But he decided to go to the police. He tried to talk to policemen on the street but nobody can speak english. At Hotel Sofitel he asked the concierge for the directions to the police station. The guy was explaining the directions to him as a Chinese man just talked to the concierge saying he is th boss of the club and he will pay the money back. A woman arrived and gave my friend 18'000 RMB. And disppeared!

My friend was really scared and just took a taxi and swore never to go back to this area again.[/QUOTE]Rule number one, if it sounds cheap then there is always a scam behind it.

Rule number two, never follow a stranger to a place that you don't know and have not been before.

Rule number three, if they run a scam like this and there are many in Shanghai, please be mindful that the police will help little, as they probably have been paid off.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1396816]I also had this problem before, and as I researched, it is impossible to place a listing, if your IP will show, you are not in that region. I am afraid, as long as CL will see you are out of Shanghai, they will not accept your listing.[/QUOTE]I was able to place an ad, but not in the personal section of CL. I placed the ad in shanghai travel / vacation services.

I am curious: where does it say on CL that one cannot place an ad if your IP is not in the region? There are several men advertising for wives who are doing so from the US.

[QUOTE=Forest;1397500]I am curious: where does it say on CL that one cannot place an ad if your IP is not in the region?[/QUOTE]I found several forum posts where people talk about that. As it was said, this is a IP filter CL use, because too many people try to post free ads for every city (for example real estate companies). But because CL don`t tell you, why your ad has been flagged, it should all be only conjectures.

After attempting to drink Shanghai dry on Friday night I had a much more relaxed approached towards Saturday night. Most likely this will be my last opportunity for an overnight punt for sometime. After relaxing in my hotel room for most the day I contacted Emma asking if she was available. Then I arranged to meet her at the bar at 7pm but like most Chinese girls she was running the usual 30 minutes late.

Her face dropped when she saw I was drinking coke! I told her I had a heavy night the night before and I planned to take it easy. I left the bar at 9pm and gave her my room number at the hotel. Sure enough she arrived at my room just before 11pm.

Emma offers the best GFE experience I have had. While her skills and body are only just above average time spent with this girl is always good.

We showered together and then lay in bed watching some TV while kissing and cuddling. She enjoys DATY so I went down on her for about 15 minutes. She really enjoyed it and just as her body started to quiver and tremble she grabbed my hair and forced me closer to her LS. I kept dining away and it wasn't to long until she had an orgasm.

She then gave me BBBJ to the best of her ability. Her skills here are not that great but she tries hard and keeps eye contact throughout. LB was hard enough to be capped and we started in MISH. She was incredibly wet and LB had no trouble entering LS. I pumped away while having a firm grip on her butt and we DFK throughout the session.

We changed to doggie position and it wasn't long before LB finished. We showered together and went back to bed watching TV until I fell asleep.

We had another session in the morning before heading down and having breakfast together. It was a perfect way to finish up a busy weekend.

Any chance to convey Emma's contact data? Best of course via PM!

I guess some guys know the song "Alice" and its parodie as well "Who the f* is Alice". So I didn't mean to be rude, Jason. I just couldn't resist.

To apply this parodie to your report.

Thanks for any clue,

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Jason456; 1397846]After attempting to drink Shanghai dry on Friday night I had a much more relaxed approached towards Saturday night. Most likely this will be my last opportunity for an overnight punt for sometime. After relaxing in my hotel room for most the day I contacted Emma asking if she was available. Then I arranged to meet her at the bar at 7pm but like most Chinese girls she was running the usual 30 minutes late.

Her face dropped when she saw I was drinking coke! I told her I had a heavy night the night before and I planned to take it easy. I left the bar at 9pm and gave her my room number at the hotel. Sure enough she arrived at my room just before 11pm.

Emma offers the best GFE experience I have had. While her skills and body are only just above average time spent with this girl is always good.

We showered together and then lay in bed watching some TV while kissing and cuddling. She enjoys DATY so I went down on her for about 15 minutes. She really enjoyed it and just as her body started to quiver and tremble she grabbed my hair and forced me closer to her LS. I kept dining away and it wasn't to long until she had an orgasm.

She then gave me BBBJ to the best of her ability. Her skills here are not that great but she tries hard and keeps eye contact throughout. LB was hard enough to be capped and we started in MISH. She was incredibly wet and LB had no trouble entering LS. I pumped away while having a firm grip on her butt and we DFK throughout the session.

We changed to doggie position and it wasn't long before LB finished. We showered together and went back to bed watching TV until I fell asleep.

We had another session in the morning before heading down and having breakfast together. It was a perfect way to finish up a busy weekend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1397954]Any chance to convey Emma's contact data? Best of course via PM!

I guess some guys know the song "Alice" and its parodie as well "Who the f* is Alice". So I didn't mean to be rude, Jason. I just couldn't resist.

To apply this parodie to your report.

Thanks for any clue,

Gregory.[/QUOTE]Marketing. Just pure marketing.

If you look at the post history (it will not take much, it is 2 posts) you will see this is just marketing. Or maybe dreaming with left hand as right is busy not typing.

You may wonder what does it good to whom?

But you now "the hope dies last", haha.

Thanks anyway for killing the hope and return to reality.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1397989]Marketing. Just pure marketing.

If you look at the post history (it will not take much, it is 2 posts) you will see this is just marketing. Or maybe dreaming with left hand as right is busy not typing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jason456; 1397846]After attempting to drink Shanghai dry on Friday night I had a much more relaxed approached towards Saturday night. Most likely this will be my last opportunity for an overnight punt for sometime. After relaxing in my hotel room for most the day I contacted Emma asking if she was available. Then I arranged to meet her at the bar at 7pm but like most Chinese girls she was running the usual 30 minutes late.

Her face dropped when she saw I was drinking coke! I told her I had a heavy night the night before and I planned to take it easy. I left the bar at 9pm and gave her my room number at the hotel. Sure enough she arrived at my room just before 11pm.

Emma offers the best GFE experience I have had. While her skills and body are only just above average time spent with this girl is always good.

We showered together and then lay in bed watching some TV while kissing and cuddling. She enjoys DATY so I went down on her for about 15 minutes. She really enjoyed it and just as her body started to quiver and tremble she grabbed my hair and forced me closer to her LS. I kept dining away and it wasn't to long until she had an orgasm.

She then gave me BBBJ to the best of her ability. Her skills here are not that great but she tries hard and keeps eye contact throughout. LB was hard enough to be capped and we started in MISH. She was incredibly wet and LB had no trouble entering LS. I pumped away while having a firm grip on her butt and we DFK throughout the session.

We changed to doggie position and it wasn't long before LB finished. We showered together and went back to bed watching TV until I fell asleep.

We had another session in the morning before heading down and having breakfast together. It was a perfect way to finish up a busy weekend.[/QUOTE]Emma? Emma? Who the f*ck is Emma?

Lev

Do not reply with quotes to posts like these. If someone wants to read the original let them. This venue is for sharing info on how how the next guy RTTF'ing can get the same service and acurate info on where to find it.

BZ.

Emma? Who the f*ck is Emma?

Lev[/QUOTE]

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Gentlemen,

I had some good success with Shanghai Guide recommendations and I tend to believe that there are some few reliable incall options out there.

I came across this website [url]wwwdot[/url] Escortshanghai86dotcom, and contacted Emily, who runs it. We exchanged several emails, and she is extremely responsive and kind, which is making me believe this is for real.

So I am going to take one for the team. Then will let you know later. Unless any of you had any bad experiences, then please let me know!

Emily, if you are reading this, this means I am trusting you, and if things go really well, some of these guys may become customers. So please ensure your team will do a great job!

Reports will come later.

Cheers,

Sauro

I had last visited Shanghai in feb 2011. Experience.

1) First night, I got to Manhattan early and there was nobody there. So went the Blue sky bar just near by and hung out with two girls both nice, bought them a few drinks and chatted with them. I felt one of them really liked me. But when I refused to buy any more drinks, they both left when a new customer arrived. I then went to manhattan and there were a few girls and I picked a Viet girl for 2000 RMB LT. Took her to a hotel and it was nice but not great. She was flat chested and I didnot realize the extent till she took her clothes off.

2) The next night I went around 1 PM to Manhattan and it was packed and picked a fillipono girl and it was a OK experience. Perhaps one of the reasons could be that I did not particularly like her but choose the best I could find.

3) The third night (My last night) I again went to manhattan but did not like any of the choices so just went to the blue sky bar and talked to the girl who I felt had liked me (Chinese). She gave her number and told me she will come after the bar closes. I went back to hotel and called her after a couple of hours and she showed up around 4 AM and it was good. She was also much better looking then anything I saw in Manhattan. I paid her 2000 RMB in the morning.

So my overall impression was that Manhattan has many girls but I was not impressed by the quality of looks. I would have preferred something more upscale. Budget is not a problem for me.

This time.

I am visiting shanghai next week. I would be grateful if one of you can point me or PM me where I could find more upscale girls than Manhattan.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Stegram;1395714]Now he just has to call VISA or MC and tell them he was swindled and never signed the thing or that he was forced to sign and he'll get his 20, 000 Back too! 18, 000 RMB profit.[/QUOTE]Normally what you wrote would be true, but since this situation happened in China, there's a chance that Visa / MC / AmEx / Diners would say "sorry we can't do anything about that charge."

I was scammed out of 390 RMB back in 2006 (by a shopkeeper at the Guilin airport, not at an MP) , it was a set-up as I was purposely held up to the point that if I didn't sign the fake credit charge, I would miss my flight. I called the police over but it turns out that the police were in on the scam.

This happened right after the exchange rate had switched from $1 = 8.1 RMB to somewhere in the mid-6's, so I was charged over $60 USA on my credit card statement that arrived once I got back home. I appealed the charge, with detailed explanation of how it was a con, and was told "sorry we can't do anything because it's in China."

I feel bad to keep reading about the Nanjing Lu (Nanjing Road) scams. I was in Shanghai in March 2012 and wrote some detailed posts here about these scams (luckily I was not scammed last year); my posts then generated a flurry of stories about this scam. Unfortunately a newbie could RTFF and might still miss these posts. Maybe we should petition Jackson to open a new thread entitled "Shanghai. The Nanjing Lu MP Scam"?

Was in shanghai last week. Usually stay for a night and that too my favourite hotel jinjiang on moming lu. One of our vendors had come to pick me from shanghai with his girlfriend. Late check in. Went to xintian di for dinner. As usual paulener. Lots of WG. Didn't find what I was looking for. So decided to go back to the hotel. Thought of trying Sophia. Since a lot had been mentioned about her services in the forum. It was my first outcall. Called her a around 12 am. Very responsive. Asked my preference. Told her what I wanted. She said the girl would arrive in half hour. The girl arrived in 20 mins. Exactly what I wanted. Solid 8 to 8. 5 on my rating. Didn't get her name. Was from anhui. Te service was ok. CBJ. Few positions. And was over in like 20 to 25 mins. The service seemed mechanical but wasn't bad either. Basically wanted to pop the nut and it was comfortable. Didn't know if would get time for my freebie later on as she told me she was busy. But could make it later for night and that was fun. More like what good sex is about. 3 shots in a night. Does everything. And a morning good bye session. That's the report of the last visit. Would be back next month. Hope to get some fun and report later.

Till then happy mongering brothers.

Following the post of BushWack few weeks ago, I decided to visit Fino Massage last night (it is on Dagu road).

Unfortunately, my experience was not as good as the one he described.

I arrived around 11. 45pm. And stared at the menu for quite a long time. As the next move would have been for the lady to show me a 2nd menu. Well that never happened.

I also asked if it was all they had, and she said yes; and asked what I was looking for.

She advised me the oil massage with HE which was very "naughty naughty". Well I guess this is exactly what I was looking for.

Went to the room, the place is not the cleanest in the world, there is a strange smell, probably coming from the wet carpet around the small shower in the room.

First bad surprise: they came to ask me to put a disposable short.

Then came the masseuse, she was OK, a 7 or a 8, and did not speak a single word of English, but that's OK, was not here to talk anyway.

Then starts with the massage. To be very clear, the massage was one of the best I have ever had. It really was the right balance between arousing and pressured; on that one, I have nothing to complain about.

Now, based on the BushWack experience, I was expecting the masseuse to drop her clothes any time. Well, that part never happened. I must admit it makes the all experience funny as you are face down with now view on what is happening, so each time she goes away from you (in fact to take some more oil) , you are hoping she will come back naked. And then, a quick hand touch to realize she still has her pants.

To cut things shorts, it ended up with a HJ, which was OK as she made it last pretty long, but that's it, no touching, nothing was allowed or even possible as she sat opposite to me.

At the exit, they tried to sell me the membership card, which I simply refuse.

All in all:

- Girl:7. 5.

- Massage: 9.

- HJ: 8.

- BJ: 0. Not available.

- GFE: 0. Not available.

- Touching in any kind: 0. Not available

[QUOTE=DonLuis; 1399471]Following the post of BushWack few weeks ago, I decided to visit Fino Massage last night (it is on Dagu road).

Unfortunately, my experience was not as good as the one he described.

I arrived around 11. 45pm. And stared at the menu for quite a long time. As the next move...[/QUOTE]What's the cost for this?

Gentleman. There are many Mps that are clean, don't smell.

Bad and have nice looking girls who let you fondle them. Some let you and even encourage you to DATY and one gal reported on before in this forum goes right into a BJ after a rimming and erotic back massage. Don't bother with places that smell bad or have surly workers who demand more than the average rate for a hand job. Oil massage usually costs 200-230 to the house and most seem happy with 100 for a tip. I hangout in Jingan and it is full of MP's one place only charges 100 for oil and 100 got a tip. That place is in an alley on Jiaozhou Lu just north of Wagas restaurant. Or the alleyway a little further north of Wagas. That one is next to the youth hostel and is open 24 hours. Dagu road place sounds like a dive.

The Hongqiao area has many joints. I had fun with The famous but not dissapeared #9 on Ronghua Road #98. The Rouge bar / Mp has lots if cute gals. Or ask Shanghai Nemo or read his posts.

BJ here.

]What's the cost for this?[/QUOTE]

Hello gentlemen.

I have RTFF and done several searces for infomation regarding the JC Mandarin Hotel in Puxi. Can anyone tell me if it is GF? I also remember from my stay there a few years ago, when the hotel had another name, that there were working girls in the bar across the lobby from reception. Is this still the case?

Also any BBS / saunas near by where I can nip out without my work colleagues noticing?

Lots of questions I know but any tips appreciated.

Tom

The JC Mandarin is the hotel across from the Portman Center. It has had that name for at least 5 years. There is a bar downstairs and upstairs but I don't recall one being in the lobby. However, WGs sometimes hang out in the lobby on a weekend night. The bar downstairs is a KTV. I have never been inside so I can't comment on it.

The hotel is girl friendly. But if you are concerned and returning late at night, you can go in via the back entrance near the cash machine and take the escalator right up to the second floor. From there, you can take the elevator to your room. You should also note that many hotels ask for IDs for WG to protect the guest from having things taken from your room.

Just another caution. When you walk outside of the JC there will be touts offering girls for massage. These are ALL rip-offs so ignore them. To get rid of them, say "Bu yao" which is Chinese for I don't want. They will usually leave you alone after that.

AL.

[QUOTE=TommySnap; 1400163]Hello gentlemen.

I have RTFF and done several searces for infomation regarding the JC Mandarin Hotel in Puxi. Can anyone tell me if it is GF? I also remember from my stay there a few years ago, when the hotel had another name, that there were working girls in the bar across the lobby from reception. Is this still the case?

Also any BBS / saunas near by where I can nip out without my work colleagues noticing?

Lots of questions I know but any tips appreciated.

Tom[/QUOTE]

So, here I am chaps. About to depart this fair city after 6 years in her dear arms. We've been through Expo's, clampdowns, Olympic games and much more never mind the changing dynamic of the scene. Even in my early days there were still plenty of pink lights to be found not far north of Jingan along with the delights of the strip on Kangding Lu and the road just off Jiangsu Lu. The BJ factory and the "Bar that cannot be named". The odd place is still there. Taixing Lu for one. Names on the board have come and gone and come again. And I have made some damn fine friends both from here and elsewhere. I've RTFF and told others to do likewise and taken the sage advice of never going with a tout. Crawled in and out of Manhattan, both sober and a little worse for wear, thought I was in love with a crazy Flipper and realised it was just the sex that was good. Some names I'll remember for ever. Others I never knew. And I don't think I ever paid. 1000 was my M's max. 800 my sauna max. Heck some of them should have been paying me.

My advice to those starting out remains the same: hunt alone or in a pack but explore on your own terms and choose a place of your own liking and where you are completely in control. Except for those brief moments when you are out of control and the moment takes over leaving you lying in a pool of satisfaction. And always lock your valuables in a safe.

So what's left? Well there are plenty of massage places happy to give you a HE. Just look and ye shall find. The central saunas have almost gone the way of the dodo but they are still there in various guises but you have to travel a long way out (for my liking) to get service. And the service has on the whole drifted ever downwards and the price ever upwards but there are still jems and perhaps they should be kept that way. They move on so fast, most of the fun is in the exploring. You have to work to earn a return. Value for money is the eye of the beholder and YMMV.

To wrap things up I thought I would start where I began. The Shanghai Hotel. No one mentions the old lady much these days. It used to be the place for red rope and hot girls. But now, lake Miss Haversham she is perhaps feeling a little rejected and the cobwebs are creeping in. But unlike my first trip, post here,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3013-2007-East-China-Shanghai&p=572992#post572992[/url]

I guess I am pretty much on top of things and can hold down a conversation with the girl bouncing around on top of me. So would I recommend? Well, you know what I would. So here goes:

Shanghai Hotel: Huashan Lu at the intersection of Changle Lu. Just behind the Hilton. The pink building. Go in, take the lift to the third floor (floor number 2 on the lift as Lobby is floor 0) and go in. If you need cash, there is a BOC ATM on the ground floor.

The approach remains the same. Remove shoes, get naked, head for the shower. There'll be a chap who'll want to help you. Just go with it. He doesn't want to suck you off. He just wants a tip. The pool area is clean. Even with our pigs-in-the-river situation the pool was cleaner than I have seen in other places on 'recent' (loose term) visits. Showers not bad and the area, at least at 10pm this evening was not busy (me and three staff). After a soak, off to meet the ladies.

It used to be that they shuffled into the corridor. Daunting for a newbie, but now they sit you on a sofa and the girls shuffle out into. Well the corridor. The line up of about 10 was not bad, and one in particular appeared bouncy and happy. On selecting her, there was a clamber for an upsell to two (that'll be 1300 Mr Newbie). The girls did this, not the papasan. Number 68 was a little plump but I wanted breast today so I took that. If you like tall, english speaking and what appeared to be very keen, they have such a model on show at present. She is Shanghainese so if you have a fantasy of such a lady go there now. Heck, most of us will never get that in town in a club. Unless you are Blacklisted. I nearly did a ban xiao jie mid walk but stuck with what I had.

So with short tubby 68 we headed to the room where she went for her dongxi. Came back and straight into a good, not brilliant BBBJ. Hey, it's the last one. I'll do the detail!

Nice breasts. Worth the gamble. She's from Shandong BTW. And she kept going. And going and we got the whole BBBJCIM+S. Then she went into the routine. Cat bath and stuff, and she was good and fun. Then arse in air, and lots of anal rimming. Used not to like that. Wanted to snog and [url]ewwww[/url], if she was going there, I was not going THERE if you know what I mean. But now, bugger the GFE, lets stick more the PSE. So tongue in deep, lots of massaging of balls and rubbing of cock. And then fang guo lai and onto more BJ. Well, after a good mouthwash. And then we decided to zuo ai and bounce around for a few minutes whilst she did her cute fake moaning (and did not complain about size) and "oh my godding" until I came. She moaned a bit more (if you are a newbie, you will think she came at this point. A little let down: she didn't. OK? She's just trying to make you feel good.) and told me I was "hen ban". It's nice. Even if she has told three other people the same thing today. Check the condom ("yi dian shui". For sure, I am no longer that young) And then we sat and chatted and she massaged my legs and the hour was up and off we went, her skipping and chatting and being genuinely very sweet.

Not bad, and a good way wrap things up. You don't need to haul arse to Jun Hua or wherever it is. You can do likewise in the middle of the city.

Girl Number 68.

Looks: 6 (being mean)

Attitude: definate 8.

Cups: C.

BJ: 7.

Sex: 6. 5.

What else do I include? Oh yes: WIR? : Yes, why not.

Price 760RMB for 70 minutes and who needs more unless you are some lothario and can cope with the heat in the room.

It's been a blast chaps. Thanks to all who posted great advice or amusing stories here. It worked. This one got through 6 years and found much fun. Hope something was given back.

And to all newbies: hell yeah, RTFF, experience, discover and post back.

Enjoy!

WGS

Just returned from a short and enjoyable trip to Shanghai, and wound up at Manhattan all three nights. The first night was Saturday, and it was already jam-packed by 11 PM. It's been a couple years since I was last in Shanghai and last visited Manhattan, but I wasn't expecting things to get going until much later. That night I went home with a stunning young thing from Hanoi who unfortunately turned out to be as mechanical and disengaged as she was beautiful. We had originally agreed LT but I renegotiated that into ST after the disappointing performance.

My second night started off with more disappointment after a very pretty, slightly thick PRC MILF I'd picked up in Paulaner went into "pay first" mode after getting back to the hotel. I was pissed, especially as I'd spent an hour plus chatting her up, and even bought her a drink and a small salad. Of course I refused and gave her 20 RMB for a taxi, then followed her out and into my own cab to hit Manhattan again. Fortunately my luck was much better as this time I met another Vietnamese girl who rocked my world hard and was as into our adventure as I was. She was from Saigon, and come to think of it, in my limited experience with Viets I've had 2 stunners from Hanoi who were sub-par performers, and 5 or 6 girls from Saigon who were all outstanding. Maybe there's a North / South thing going on there.

Anyway on my final night I headed to Malone's in hopes of finding a PRC lady and while there was at least one sitting alone at the bar, she was a bit to tired and worn out for my tastes. There were a couple other cute girls sitting alone but I'm not sure they were working; perhaps not as they got up and left together after a while. With Malone's a strike-out I headed back to Manhattan and was again shocked at how packed it was. This was a Monday evening, maybe around midnight or even earlier; I didn't expect much of a crowd considering it was Monday. I ran into the cold fish from Hanoi and politely declined when she asked if I wanted to go with her again, but she of course was totally fine with that and we ended up chatting for a while. As often happens, when I'm out looking for a good choice I end up being chosen myself, and this time it was a girl who said she was mixed Korean / Chinese, but I think she may have been Mongolian. I never understood why but I have heard in some places Mongolian girls claim to be Korean, I guess thinking that makes them more in-demand. Whatever she was, she was another hit and I really enjoyed my evening with her, enough in fact that I asked her to stay LT.

So, all-in-all a great trip, even considering a couple slight missteps. I really do like Shanghai, although I wish Manhattan wasn't quite so crowded. I can't wait to go back, but sadly it may be a while.

[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1400183]The JC Mandarin is the hotel across from the Portman Center. It has had that name for at least 5 years. There is a bar downstairs and upstairs but I don't recall one being in the lobby. However, WGs sometimes hang out in the lobby on a weekend night. The bar downstairs is a KTV. I have never been inside so I can't comment on it.

The hotel is girl friendly. But if you are concerned and returning late at night, you can go in via the back entrance near the cash machine and take the escalator right up to the second floor. From there, you can take the elevator to your room. You should also note that many hotels ask for IDs for WG to protect the guest from having things taken from your room.

Just another caution. When you walk outside of the JC there will be touts offering girls for massage. These are ALL rip-offs so ignore them. To get rid of them, say "Bu yao" which is Chinese for I don't want. They will usually leave you alone after that.

AL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Info Asianlover. I stayed there 7 years ago and was sure there was an Irish bar? Across the lobby with several working girls sat around.

T

SWG, All the best, where ever you may go. There are still some veterans roaming the streets and establishments, though they have become less outspoken. Times have Changed, but the fun has never ended. All the best, Shanghai will miss you.

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh; 1400194]So, here I am chaps. About to depart this fair city after 6 years in her dear arms. We've been through Expo's, clampdowns, Olympic games and much more never mind the changing dynamic of the scene. Even in my early days there were still plenty of pink lights to be found not far north of Jingan along with the delights of the strip on Kangding Lu and the road just off Jiangsu Lu. The BJ factory and the "Bar that cannot be named". The odd place is still there. Taixing Lu for one. Names on the board have come and gone and come again. And I have made some damn fine friends both from here and elsewhere. I've RTFF and told others to do likewise and taken the sage advice of never going with a tout. Crawled in and out of Manhattan, both sober and a little worse for wear, thought I was in love with a crazy Flipper and realised it was just the sex that was good. Some names I'll remember for ever. Others I never knew. And I don't think I ever paid. 1000 was my M's max. 800 my sauna max. Heck some of them should have been paying me.

My advice to those starting out remains the same: hunt alone or in a pack but explore on your own terms and choose a place of your own liking and where you are completely in control. Except for those brief moments when you are out of control and the moment takes over leaving you lying in a pool of satisfaction. And always lock your valuables in a safe.

So what's left? Well there are plenty of massage places happy to give you a HE. Just look and ye shall find. The central saunas have almost gone the way of the dodo but they are still there in various guises but you have to travel a long way out (for my liking) to get service. And the service has on the whole drifted ever downwards and the price ever upwards but there are still jems and perhaps they should be kept that way. They move on so fast, most of the fun is in the exploring. You have to work to earn a return. Value for money is the eye of the beholder and YMMV.

To wrap things up I thought I would start where I began. The Shanghai Hotel. No one mentions the old lady much these days. It used to be the place for red rope and hot girls. But now, lake Miss Haversham she is perhaps feeling a little rejected and the cobwebs are creeping in. But unlike my first trip, post here,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3013-2007-East-China-Shanghai&p=572992#post572992[/url]

I guess I am pretty much on top of things and can hold down a conversation with the girl bouncing around on top of me. So would I recommend? Well, you know what I would. So here goes:

Shanghai Hotel: Huashan Lu at the intersection of Changle Lu. Just behind the Hilton. The pink building. Go in, take the lift to the third floor (floor number 2 on the lift as Lobby is floor 0) and go in. If you need cash, there is a BOC ATM on the ground floor.

The approach remains the same. Remove shoes, get naked, head for the shower. There'll be a chap who'll want to help you. Just go with it. He doesn't want to suck you off. He just wants a tip. The pool area is clean. Even with our pigs-in-the-river situation the pool was cleaner than I have seen in other places on 'recent' (loose term) visits. Showers not bad and the area, at least at 10pm this evening was not busy (me and three staff). After a soak, off to meet the ladies.

It used to be that they shuffled into the corridor. Daunting for a newbie, but now they sit you on a sofa and the girls shuffle out into. Well the corridor. The line up of about 10 was not bad, and one in particular appeared bouncy and happy. On selecting her, there was a clamber for an upsell to two (that'll be 1300 Mr Newbie). The girls did this, not the papasan. Number 68 was a little plump but I wanted breast today so I took that. If you like tall, english speaking and what appeared to be very keen, they have such a model on show at present. She is Shanghainese so if you have a fantasy of such a lady go there now. Heck, most of us will never get that in town in a club. Unless you are Blacklisted. I nearly did a ban xiao jie mid walk but stuck with what I had.

So with short tubby 68 we headed to the room where she went for her dongxi. Came back and straight into a good, not brilliant BBBJ. Hey, it's the last one. I'll do the detail!

Nice breasts. Worth the gamble. She's from Shandong BTW. And she kept going. And going and we got the whole BBBJCIM+S. Then she went into the routine. Cat bath and stuff, and she was good and fun. Then arse in air, and lots of anal rimming. Used not to like that. Wanted to snog and.

[url]ewwww[/url]

, if she was going there, I was not going THERE if you know what I mean. But now, bugger the GFE, lets stick more the PSE. So tongue in deep, lots of massaging of balls and rubbing of cock. And then fang guo lai and onto more BJ. Well, after a good mouthwash. And then we decided to zuo ai and bounce around for a few minutes whilst she did her cute fake moaning (and did not complain about size) and "oh my godding" until I came. She moaned a bit more (if you are a newbie, you will think she came at this point. A little let down: she didn't. OK? She's just trying to make you feel good.) and told me I was "hen ban". It's nice. Even if she has told three other people the same thing today. Check the condom ("yi dian shui". For sure, I am no longer that young) And then we sat and chatted and she massaged my legs and the hour was up and off we went, her skipping and chatting and being genuinely very sweet.

Not bad, and a good way wrap things up. You don't need to haul arse to Jun Hua or wherever it is. You can do likewise in the middle of the city.

Girl Number 68.

Looks: 6 (being mean)

Attitude: definate 8.

Cups: C.

BJ: 7.

Sex: 6. 5.

What else do I include? Oh yes: WIR? : Yes, why not.

Price 760RMB for 70 minutes and who needs more unless you are some lothario and can cope with the heat in the room.

It's been a blast chaps. Thanks to all who posted great advice or amusing stories here. It worked. This one got through 6 years and found much fun. Hope something was given back.

And to all newbies: hell yeah, RTFF, experience, discover and post back.

Enjoy!

WGS[/QUOTE]

Good luck, where ever your mongering road takes you!

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh; 1400194]So, here I am chaps. About to depart this fair city after 6 years in her dear arms. We've been through Expo's, clampdowns, Olympic games and much more never mind the changing dynamic of the scene. Even in my early days there were still plenty of pink lights to be found not far north of Jingan along with the delights of the strip on Kangding Lu and the road just off Jiangsu Lu. The BJ factory and the "Bar that cannot be named". The odd place is still there. Taixing Lu for one. Names on the board have come and gone and come again. And I have made some damn fine friends both from here and elsewhere. I've RTFF and told others to do likewise and taken the sage advice of never going with a tout. Crawled in and out of Manhattan, both sober and a little worse for wear, thought I was in love with a crazy Flipper and realised it was just the sex that was good. Some names I'll remember for ever. Others I never knew. And I don't think I ever paid. 1000 was my M's max. 800 my sauna max. Heck some of them should have been paying me.

My advice to those starting out remains the same: hunt alone or in a pack but explore on your own terms and choose a place of your own liking and where you are completely in control. Except for those brief moments when you are out of control and the moment takes over leaving you lying in a pool of satisfaction. And always lock your valuables in a safe.

So what's left? Well there are plenty of massage places happy to give you a HE. Just look and ye shall find. The central saunas have almost gone the way of the dodo but they are still there in various guises but you have to travel a long way out (for my liking) to get service. And the service has on the whole drifted ever downwards and the price ever upwards but there are still jems and perhaps they should be kept that way. They move on so fast, most of the fun is in the exploring. You have to work to earn a return. Value for money is the eye of the beholder and YMMV.

To wrap things up I thought I would start where I began. The Shanghai Hotel. No one mentions the old lady much these days. It used to be the place for red rope and hot girls. But now, lake Miss Haversham she is perhaps feeling a little rejected and the cobwebs are creeping in. But unlike my first trip, post here,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3013-2007-East-China-Shanghai&p=572992#post572992[/url]

I guess I am pretty much on top of things and can hold down a conversation with the girl bouncing around on top of me. So would I recommend? Well, you know what I would. So here goes:

Shanghai Hotel: Huashan Lu at the intersection of Changle Lu. Just behind the Hilton. The pink building. Go in, take the lift to the third floor (floor number 2 on the lift as Lobby is floor 0) and go in. If you need cash, there is a BOC ATM on the ground floor.

The approach remains the same. Remove shoes, get naked, head for the shower. There'll be a chap who'll want to help you. Just go with it. He doesn't want to suck you off. He just wants a tip. The pool area is clean. Even with our pigs-in-the-river situation the pool was cleaner than I have seen in other places on 'recent' (loose term) visits. Showers not bad and the area, at least at 10pm this evening was not busy (me and three staff). After a soak, off to meet the ladies.

It used to be that they shuffled into the corridor. Daunting for a newbie, but now they sit you on a sofa and the girls shuffle out into. Well the corridor. The line up of about 10 was not bad, and one in particular appeared bouncy and happy. On selecting her, there was a clamber for an upsell to two (that'll be 1300 Mr Newbie). The girls did this, not the papasan. Number 68 was a little plump but I wanted breast today so I took that. If you like tall, english speaking and what appeared to be very keen, they have such a model on show at present. She is Shanghainese so if you have a fantasy of such a lady go there now. Heck, most of us will never get that in town in a club. Unless you are Blacklisted. I nearly did a ban xiao jie mid walk but stuck with what I had.

So with short tubby 68 we headed to the room where she went for her dongxi. Came back and straight into a good, not brilliant BBBJ. Hey, it's the last one. I'll do the detail!

Nice breasts. Worth the gamble. She's from Shandong BTW. And she kept going. And going and we got the whole BBBJCIM+S. Then she went into the routine. Cat bath and stuff, and she was good and fun. Then arse in air, and lots of anal rimming. Used not to like that. Wanted to snog and.

[url]ewwww[/url]

, if she was going there, I was not going THERE if you know what I mean. But now, bugger the GFE, lets stick more the PSE. So tongue in deep, lots of massaging of balls and rubbing of cock. And then fang guo lai and onto more BJ. Well, after a good mouthwash. And then we decided to zuo ai and bounce around for a few minutes whilst she did her cute fake moaning (and did not complain about size) and "oh my godding" until I came. She moaned a bit more (if you are a newbie, you will think she came at this point. A little let down: she didn't. OK? She's just trying to make you feel good.) and told me I was "hen ban". It's nice. Even if she has told three other people the same thing today. Check the condom ("yi dian shui". For sure, I am no longer that young) And then we sat and chatted and she massaged my legs and the hour was up and off we went, her skipping and chatting and being genuinely very sweet.

Not bad, and a good way wrap things up. You don't need to haul arse to Jun Hua or wherever it is. You can do likewise in the middle of the city.

Girl Number 68.

Looks: 6 (being mean)

Attitude: definate 8.

Cups: C.

BJ: 7.

Sex: 6. 5.

What else do I include? Oh yes: WIR? : Yes, why not.

Price 760RMB for 70 minutes and who needs more unless you are some lothario and can cope with the heat in the room.

It's been a blast chaps. Thanks to all who posted great advice or amusing stories here. It worked. This one got through 6 years and found much fun. Hope something was given back.

And to all newbies: hell yeah, RTFF, experience, discover and post back.

Enjoy!

WGS[/QUOTE]

CL continues to surprise me. I was checking women looking for men in the personals, and there are tons of pics of gorgeous girls with phone numbers embedded in the photo.

Are any of these girls real?

[QUOTE=Forest; 1400915]CL continues to surprise me. I was checking women looking for men in the personals, and there are tons of pics of gorgeous girls with phone numbers embedded in the photo.

Are any of these girls real?[/QUOTE]All Fake.

Lev

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1400954]All Fake.

Lev[/QUOTE]Thanks Lev.

I think I found what I am looking for. I found a young lady under travel on CL who is a guide. I asked her about special services, and she agreed to spend three days and nights with me for 2500 RMB per day. She will show me the sights and fuck me silly, I hope! (hope springs eternal, as they say).

I send off emails to other guides, and most did not reply. One told me to write an escort agency. I think this was sound advice, LOL, except my girl looks beautiful and seems like what I was looking for.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1400957]Thanks Lev.

I think I found what I am looking for. I found a young lady under travel on CL who is a guide. I asked her about special services, and she agreed to spend three days and nights with me for 2500 RMB per day. She will show me the sights and fuck me silly, I hope! (hope springs eternal, as they say).

I send off emails to other guides, and most did not reply. One told me to write an escort agency. I think this was sound advice, LOL, except my girl looks beautiful and seems like what I was looking for.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid you'll get a bad guide during the day and an upsell or bad service at night. I'd suggest just hire a guide during the day and go have some variety at night.

Walked around Jing An last week and the place was literally packed with BBS and massage parlors. Tons of them on Anyuan Lu (between Shaanxi Lu and Changshou Lu) with some great young talents: just walk around, check inside and see what you like. My favourite however was a BBS on Shaanxi Lu, in the section between Kangding Lu and Changping Lu. Walking south from Changping Lu / Shaanxi Lu (thevfamous intersection) , after 300mt you will see one on the left side (on the other side of the road of a wine bar). Walk 10 more metres and on the same side you will find another one with a few great MILFs. Ask of Milefei (&31859; &20048; &32933. If she is there you can easily recognize her: pretty stunning look (for a 35/40year old) , black hair, pony-tail and an amazing rack. The place is pretty shabby but she is worth the experience. Her body is simply amazing, to die for. Great BBJ and not a single complaint about size or time (no rush). I asked her if I could unload on her chest and she let me do that with pleasure. Great experience for 300RMB.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1400957]Thanks Lev.

I think I found what I am looking for. I found a young lady under travel on CL who is a guide. I asked her about special services, and she agreed to spend three days and nights with me for 2500 RMB per day. She will show me the sights and fuck me silly, I hope! (hope springs eternal, as they say).

I send off emails to other guides, and most did not reply. One told me to write an escort agency. I think this was sound advice, LOL, except my girl looks beautiful and seems like what I was looking for.[/QUOTE]You have seen her in person to know she is beautiful?

OS

[QUOTE=Old South; 1401058]You have seen her in person to know she is beautiful?

OS[/QUOTE]I would not trust any pictures, before I met her face to face. This agencies are very creativ to find "real" picture of the girls and when he arrived, it will be too late to deny, I am afraid.

Hi guys,

Sometimes you are really lucky, for me it was a "serendipity": Walking to my hotel a good looking lady walked by.

And said "hello" like about a million before. But somehow a couple of yards walking on I just turned around and she.

Came back too and handed her phone nr to me. Again like so many before. She told me she would go to Malone's.

- another of those pick up places. Later in my hotel room pretty late, I just gave it a chance calling her.

To make it short it was the best experience ever.

I rather would keep her for me. I did see her again one month later and it was even better.

I will share more. But only via PM.

Gregory

Went to Siyuan yesterday evening and it was the worst sauna experience ever. Landed there at about 9:15 PM and was taken to a room with other Chinese guys around.

Waited for 45 mins and taken to the line up at 10 PM. When I selected a girl, the guy said no choose another, when I selected another again choose other WTF. He gave me 2 numbers and said I could take one of these 2. One was with huge fake tits and ugly looking and 2nd was OK. I wanted to leave but the little head was thinking so took the OK one. Off to the room to a very mechanical titty massage and bath for 15 mins and on the bed. A good BBBJ for 15 mins and then cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy and mish to finish. Bath and out. Total time spend about 55 mins. The sex was good but I expected much more and a better sauna experience for 880. Even Sarcosa is a much better deal with 2 pops.

Girl. 7.

Sex. 8.

Experience. 2.

WIR. Never

Thanks to posts 6429 and 6430, had a good time in the Jing'an area.

Went to the BBS on Anyuan Lu, there are 3 on each side of Changde Lu. All had decent looking girls. Chose 1 and negotiated 300 for BBBJ and fuck. Went to the back room. No doors, just a curtain and you can hear live porn with girls going on in the next cube. The BBBJ and sex was decent. Total about 20 mins, The girl was tight and a good lay.

Next walked about for a while checking the other BBS girls. Will try them the next time.

Walked to the massage place on Shaanxi Bei Lu. Between Xinfeng Lu and Anyuan lu. No mini mart there. Just 1 small massage place. 218 for a prostrate massage. Go up the stairs 2 flights up, to a small room. A cute little spinner walks in. Undress and lay on the table. Got one of the best massage I have ever had. Turn over and more massage. Then she got between my legs and started playing with my dick and giving a HJ. She had good technique. As I had come once before, it took her about 25 mins to make me shoot and she was game all the way. Had tired hands at the end but never complained. No extras except getting her topless and playing with her tits for 100. I declined and that didn't stop her from giving an excellent HJ.

All in all an excellent evening with a good massage, awesome HJ and decent BBBJ and sex for 500. Much better then spending 880 at Siyuan.

KJ

Hi,

I had the opportunity to spend 10 days on business in Asia, starting out in Shanghai. Arrived late (23:30?) , and took the subway to my Hotel (Swissotel). Did not realize the subway skipped a bunch of stops late at night- but fortunately stopped at JingAn temple. So just a short walk to the hotel. This is a great place. And girl friendly. 8 out of 10 times, you just walk by, every once in a while. They ask for I'd. But that is it. So no hassle. And it is a great hotel.

Cleaned up. Arrived at Manhatten around 12:30. And it was packed! This time there were more guys than girls. But the 'take out' velocity seemed slow. So the girls were selling hard. Spent about an hour. 100 RMB on beer, before finding a hell-fire. She was from south Vietnam, great firm body, nice real tits, and just full of energy. Couple of dances. And we agreed on 1000 RMB for ST. With a possibility for extension. Quick cab ride back to the hotel (40 RMB). And up to the room. She kept up the energy level, great kisser, incredible suction on the BBBJ, and after 3 positions, finally wore me out. What a difference her energy level made! Agreed to meet her Sunday night & let her go. And I slept through to 9 AM. Great night. Manhatten is still a great place. Gives you the opportunity to determine chemistry. And make an informed decision (albeit influenced by beer and no sleep.).

I did read below about some of the Barbershops in the area. May try that next trip in June. Spent the week in Shanghai (actually working) and Friday & Saturday in Bangkok- check out the report there. I really love this part of the world.

Will

Hi guys,

I am heaing out to SH soon for the first time in many years.

I have read the last 20 pages but I still need som advise. I am looking for a pick up that can spend the night with me at my hotel. I understand that there are some pick up bars and I would like advise about where to go.

I am looking for WG who can speak dcent English since I don't speak Chinese. A Filipino or Thai would work too.

Please PM me with advise or contact numbers.

Thanks in advance!

/Kirsia

Hey dude.

For the first timers, I personally would suggest Manhattan. 154 Nanyang road, near xikang road, it is sure shot, Gals are Chinese (5-6/10) Finas, Viets, the general asking rate is 1000-1200 ST, can bargain upto 700-800 ST

Or you can go to Judys at Tongren Lu by nanjing xi road, very near Ritz Carlton, this place would have more finas, price would be similar.

In btwn, please avoid any kind of lure of sex in NANJING ROAD (walking street) you will be approached by nice looking gals and pimps even in day time alluring you, these are sure rip off.

Or look for shanghaidaily. Com or chinadaily. Com for service provider, but these gals can be different than the pics posted on the website.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Kirsia123; 1401952]Hi guys,

I have read the last 20 pages but I still need som advise. I am looking for a pick up that can spend the night with me at my hotel. I understand that there are some pick up bars and I would like advise about where to go.[/QUOTE]At the risk of sounding like a jerk, you should re-read those last 20 pages. There are plenty of references to Manhattan. Maybe that should get you started in the right direction.

Just thought I would report on my last visit to Shanghai.

I called Coco again and she sent over Sara.

Sara was a sweetheart who spoke very good English. As always with Coco, Sara showed up quickly. She changed into some sexy lingerie and started the massage. Well above average massage. Her finish is something that everyone should experience. VERY hot.

Very sexy body with above average face and A cups.

She stayed the full 90 minutes as advertised and RMB was as advertised. I wasn't looking for extra's but she did offer naked for a few more.

If you are looking for professional, discreet, polite and HOT I would Sara. But this is the same as my last report.

This is very good site for information where I found the link to Coco.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/[/url]

Here is a link directly to Coco. Under "Chef's Suggestion"

[url]http://www.private-escort-shanghai.com/[/url]

If you read my last report from September, the girl I had then is now listed on the site. Xin Yu.

Call Coco and tell her Jon sent you!

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh; 1400194]So, here I am chaps. About to depart this fair city after 6 years in her dear arms.

And to all newbies: hell yeah, RTFF, experience, discover and post back.

Enjoy!

WGS[/QUOTE]Reading your post reminded me of my first trip to Shanghai hotel in the block behind the Hilton. Not too far off from your first trip.

Ahh those were the days. Haha.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3014-2008-East-China-Shanghai&p=717618#post717618[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3014-2008-East-China-Shanghai&p=723503#post723503[/url]

Kind of funny reading these back now. Kind of a newb back then.

Best of luck in the future where ever you land.

Hi Guys,

Just a quick summary of my last week experience.

I checked into my hotel in jing an tired from the flight. I was looking for some cheap sex as I was too tired to enjoy it to the max.

I opened my laptop and looked for QQ girls, I browsed a forum that has them catagorized by location and I looked for Jing An girls. No luck as no one was online but I had built a register with contacts in the weeks before my trip.

Girl 1833557957 was online and I managed to chat with her and meet at a location. It was opposite a metro station and when I arrived it took some time for her to text me the room number in the 7 day inn hotel.

When she opened the door she was scared of my size (195 cm) and affraid I had a big dick. After some time I had enough and just undressed myself, she finally did the same. After a condom blowjob she did cowgirl style and we switched to mish. As I was quite horny I really pounded her hard so she was banging her head to the bed. After I came, put on my close and paid the bill (200 RMB.) as agreed on qq.

The woman was older than the pictures suggest and her 36D cup was more a B / C cup but for 200 it was a pretty good deal.

On my last night a Thursday I visited Hong Song hot springs after a long time trying to choose between 999 and hong song.

I arrived at 17:15 and it was quite busy I guess as I was not taken to the shower area. I was amazed by the size of the operations, I was led to the fish bow and had to walk through a maze of hallways to get there. After each 20 steps I was handed over to another staff member and I think I must have been handled by 25 people before I got to the bowl. No wonder their prices are slightly higher when you have to pay for all the staff.

At the fish bow I was amazed by all the gorgeous girls posing there. I had hoped to find 1-2 girls with big boobs to choose from but from a line-up of 30 girls, there were at least 10 model girls and 5 of them with a big rack.

There were 2 that caught my eye but 1 of them had the biggest tits and a pretty face #870.

After choosing the girl I had to wait in a love seat for 2 with a lot of other guys and girls. As I do not speak any Chinese the girl started playing with my dick to pass time and it was nice. Most girls passing by were just gorgeous.

After 20 minutes a room was available and they were still cleaning it when we arrived, the previous couple was still picking their stuff. Really busy.

My girl was wearing a very sturdy bra so I was a bit affraid it was a mega push-up thing and her tits would be disappointing. However when she took it all off, I was a happy guy. At least a E / F cup natural. She reminded me of Hitomi Tanaka while her boobs were a size smaller, very similar.

We took a shower and she gave me a soapy while doing a tit fuck all the time. I tried to explain I wanted a blowjob with condom and after a lot of attempts she seemed to understand. So she just licked my balls and nipples during the soapy.

When on the bed she started to massage and lick my balls again. But then before I knew it she was sucking my dick without condom very intensely. I was a bit upset but the damage was done so I figured to just enjoy it. After the blowjob she wanted to fuck but I hinted she forgot the rimming part and she started to do it immediately. After that some multiple positions fucking and I could enjoy her boobs from all angles trough the mirrors.

When finished I had no intent to stay so she gave me another soapy to clean my dick. It was nice.

After I was back in my hotel I walked to mannings to get some hand cleaning stuff and put it on my dick to kill any bacteria left. Painfull but maybe it has an effect.

All in all I really enjoyed the hong song but am still a bit affraid I caught an std from the BBBJ, guess I have to wait for 2 weeks to get a check.

I notice a lot of guys getting BBBJ's, no one is affraid of herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhoe etc. Etc? I just hope the high standard of hong song makes the risk smaller.

I am very happy to read that the Shanghai Hotel is back in action!

I first visited that location back in 2008, when I was back in 09 I think that it was already closed. It was my first taste of a "sauna" and although the actual session was far from the best I've had since then it will always be remembered.

I am about to visit Shanghai again after haing been away for more than 3 years. I have made a list of places to visit including:

- Hong Song, Shi Hong Song Dong Lu 1116 (Hilton Hotel 4th Floor) , am I correct in understanding that it is inside the Hilton Hong Qiao?

- Hailang, Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277.

- Jun Hao, Longming Lu No. 2131, Building C. 3rd Floor. At the Corner to Caobao Lu.

- 999, 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)

- and now I guess the Shanghai Hotel!

I am only there for 5 days and being realistic I probably only have time for 2 or 3 saunas during this visit.

I've read the f forum and made the above short list. Can someone please double check that my addresses are correct and comment on which 2 or 3 of the 5 above I should go for. I have found some Metro directions but I'll probably take a taxi and hope for the concierge to be able to write the addresses in Chinese for me.

Tia,

Happy

Crosby,

Just guessing from your size you won't be Chinese. Either you can communicate in Chinese or you might help us to find QQ girls that can at least understand the minimum English to agree on service, price and location. So far I haven't been lucky enought to find them.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Crosby; 1402543]Hi Guys,

Just a quick summary of my last week experience.

I checked into my hotel in jing an tired from the flight. I was looking for some cheap sex as I was too tired to enjoy it to the max.

I opened my laptop and looked for QQ girls, I browsed a forum that has them catagorized by location and I looked for Jing An girls. No luck as no one was online but I had built a register with contacts in the weeks before my trip.

Girl 1833557957 was online and I managed to chat with her and meet at a location. It was opposite a metro station and when I arrived it took some time for her to text me the room number in the 7 day inn hotel.

When she opened the door she was scared of my size (195 cm) and affraid I had a big dick. After some time I had enough and just undressed myself, she finally did the same. After a condom blowjob she did cowgirl style and we switched to mish. As I was quite horny I really pounded her hard so she was banging her head to the bed. After I came, put on my close and paid the bill (200 RMB.) as agreed on qq.

The woman was older than the pictures suggest and her 36D cup was more a B / C cup but for 200 it was a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mehappy; 1402747]- Hong Song, Shi Hong Song Dong Lu 1116 (Hilton Hotel 4th Floor) , am I correct in understanding that it is inside the Hilton Hong Qiao?

- Hailang, Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277.

- Jun Hao, Longming Lu No. 2131, Building C. 3rd Floor. At the Corner to Caobao Lu.

- 999, 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)

- and now I guess the Shanghai Hotel!

Can someone please double check that my addresses are correct and comment on which 2 or 3 of the 5 above I should go for.[/QUOTE]Adresses are correct, so you should found them. The Hong Song is in the Hilton hotel, but not reachable by the hotel elevators, so it is a little bit tricky to find, but you should find a "instruction" here in the forum.

I would recommend Hong Song, because of the great girls selection, than Jun Hao, because they have this stage to select the girls (and I enjoy the catwalk there) , than Hailang or 999 should be the same quality, but my last visit in Shanghai Hotel was not so great, so if you have only 3 chances, I would not face the risk to waste one shoot in the Shanghai Hotel.

Just a quick question.

Is the ISG forum blocked in China? On my last visit to Shanghai I was unable to access the site. It was fine in Seoul. I was staying at the Hilton.

[QUOTE=Sjon58; 1403296]Just a quick question.

Is the ISG forum blocked in China? On my last visit to Shanghai I was unable to access the site. It was fine in Seoul. I was staying at the Hilton.[/QUOTE]I have no issues with accessing ISG from my hotel in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Mehappy; 1402747]I am very happy to read that the Shanghai Hotel is back in action!

I first visited that location back in 2008, when I was back in 09 I think that it was already closed. It was my first taste of a "sauna" and although the actual session was far from the best I've had since then it will always be remembered.

I am about to visit Shanghai again after haing been away for more than 3 years. I have made a list of places to visit including:

- Hong Song, Shi Hong Song Dong Lu 1116 (Hilton Hotel 4th Floor) , am I correct in understanding that it is inside the Hilton Hong Qiao?

- Hailang, Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277.

- Jun Hao, Longming Lu No. 2131, Building C. 3rd Floor. At the Corner to Caobao Lu.

- 999, 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)

- and now I guess the Shanghai Hotel!

I am only there for 5 days and being realistic I probably only have time for 2 or 3 saunas during this visit.

I've read the f forum and made the above short list. Can someone please double check that my addresses are correct and comment on which 2 or 3 of the 5 above I should go for. I have found some Metro directions but I'll probably take a taxi and hope for the concierge to be able to write the addresses in Chinese for me.

Tia,

Happy[/QUOTE]I would recommend a trip to Heting Elite at 777 Siping Lu. Been there 2 times in the last week and it has excellent service. Great selection of girls, very sexy boobs massage and cat bath, some of the very best BBBJ I have ever had and 2 shots all for 600 RMB as I was there before 6 PM both times.

KJ

[QUOTE=King Jack; 1403466]I would recommend a trip to Heting Elite at 777 Siping Lu. Been there 2 times in the last week and it has excellent service. Great selection of girls, very sexy boobs massage and cat bath, some of the very best BBBJ I have ever had and 2 shots all for 600 RMB as I was there before 6 PM both times.

KJ[/QUOTE]My last trip to shanghai I tried heting and didn't like it at all. I had to wait in the waiting room for 45 over minutes and the selection of girls was terrible. Worse still, they were all standing in front of you like pigs waiting for the slaughter. I didn't want to wait for another round, so I just took the one that I could bear, and she had pockmarks all over her face. Thank goodness the room was so dark.

I rather go to merrilyn or bodi where I can have a good FS with bath and the works, and you get to choose the girls behind a fish tank. Just my 2 cents, no offense. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Equine; 1403564]My last trip to shanghai I tried heting and didn't like it at all. I had to wait in the waiting room for 45 over minutes and the selection of girls was terrible. Worse still, they were all standing in front of you like pigs waiting for the slaughter. I didn't want to wait for another round, so I just took the one that I could bear, and she had pockmarks all over her face. Thank goodness the room was so dark.

I rather go to merrilyn or bodi where I can have a good FS with bath and the works, and you get to choose the girls behind a fish tank. Just my 2 cents, no offense. To each his own.[/QUOTE]My last experience at Bodi was so disappointing I'm going to try a different sauna next trip. Maybe it's OK during the week but on a Saturday night. 1 1/2 hour waiting and then a choice of 5 girls. 3 after the two Chinese guys in front of me picked. And no fishbowl. Just a gathering in a dark hallway. And then the girl was cold, distant, and rushed me because we had spent some of our time waiting in the upstairs hallway outside the rooms AFTER I picked her. I think there's two levels of service going on there. One for wealthy regulars, and another for the occasional tourist visitors.

Thanks to Xikang Lu (#5636) and the follow-up by Irv Washington (#6430).

I decided to see what they were talking about and so headed to Yuyao Lu, west of Changde Lu. This small street is amazing with at least 6 massage places of various shapes and sizes. It reminded me of Amsterdam with all of the girls in the windows. Here, however, all of the girls wore similar black dresses / uniforms. I was in no rush so I wandered up and down a couple of times trying to make up my mind.

The place offering foot massages looked like it had recently been redone and you could see the girls easily. There were 3 girls: one was good looking but 2 were not. I was not sure whether I would be able to choose the good looking girl so I moved on.

The best looking girls were squashed together on a couch at a small place with a pink sign in the middle of the north side. I was very tempted to go in but was not sure what was available. Also I got the impression that none spoke English at any of these places.

Then I saw a really great looking girl coming out of the larger place with a large massage sign near the east end on the south side. I wondered if she would try to pick me up but she looked like she was going home. The place did not look too inviting from the outside.

So, being undecided I thought I'the check out the BBS on Xinfeng Lu. It had 3 girls sitting out front, but none of them looked great so I kept going to Shaanxi Bei Lu.

This massage place appealed to me right away. Also there was a menu out front in English. I decided on the prostate massage for 218 RMB and went in. The girl at the front desk spoke no English but I pointed at the menu and she took me upstairs to a nice room. It has a shower, a massage table and an armchair. It also had an old-fashioned bath tub which looked interesting. Everything was clean. She pointed me to the chair and I waited. Pretty soon a really attractive, short-haired, petite girl entered. She was wearing black tights and a long t-shirt with 'Annie' or something like that on the front. I was not sure whether she was the first in a line-up or not but I indicated that she would do just fine.

She left and I was not sure whether to take a shower or not so I just waited. She came back, asked if I wanted a massage and pointed at the shower. I asked if she spoke English and she said yes but when I asked her for her name she didn't understand. So we didn't talk much.

The massage was brilliant and included one of the best hand releases I've ever had. It was pretty clear that there would be no touching and so I didn't try. Actually, I didn't want to try. I wasn't offered any extras but I don't speak Mandarin or any other Chinese language.

Afterwards I took another shower, went down stairs, paid, left a tip for the massage girl at the front desk, and left feeling great. I'll repeat for sure.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia; 1402768]Crosby,

Just guessing from your size you won't be Chinese. Either you can communicate in Chinese or you might help us to find QQ girls that can at least understand the minimum English to agree on service, price and location. So far I haven't been lucky enought to find them.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Nope, I am European and don't speak any word Chinese.

In the QQ app you can translate from English to Chinese to chat with the girl. She will do vice versa and it works perfectly.

The last part is most tricky and you will fail most of the time. As they will only point you to an address without giving their room number (in case of hotel) or apartment number you'll end up in the cold.

One solution is to use QQ on your mobile and get final details through your phone. But roaming data charges are high so I did not do so.

So far I had one failure where the girl did not understand my questions for directions over the phone in English and I ended up in the hall of a giant appartment block.

Last weeks girl was smart enough to put the SMS questions in the QQ translator and text me the floor and room number back.

Thank you for your feedback!

I'll skip the Shanghai Hotel. Some memories are best when not relived.

I'll be staying close to the Bund so it'll be taxi to the places I visit. I promise to write a report now that I am way more knowledgeable than I was back then.

Excuse me, brothers, but as a newbie to the site – and having just trawled in vain across the past few months' posts – I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if Yu Ping was still open, and still as good as it was said to be, back in the day? A friend (who hasn't been to Shanghai since 2011) recommended I try it. Any advice would be gratefully received.

Hi guys!

I am staying in the Pullman for a couple of days. Any nice massage (Prostate or tantric or the like) around?

[QUOTE=Crosby; 1404419]Nope, I am European and don't speak any word Chinese.

In the QQ app you can translate from English to Chinese to chat with the girl. She will do vice versa and it works perfectly.

The last part is most tricky and you will fail most of the time. As they will only point you to an address without giving their room number (in case of hotel) or apartment number you'll end up in the cold.

One solution is to use QQ on your mobile and get final details through your phone. But roaming data charges are high so I did not do so.

So far I had one failure where the girl did not understand my questions for directions over the phone in English and I ended up in the hall of a giant appartment block.

Last weeks girl was smart enough to put the SMS questions in the QQ translator and text me the floor and room number back.[/QUOTE]Evidently I suck at using QQ. I don't know how to get it to translate. Is it only for your PC or will it work over your iphone also? I am a member on QQi but am currently back in the US and won't be needing it until June when I get back to China. I hope by then I'll have it figured out! I do keep getting these "matches" on my PC and have tried to send a couple of emails but don't know if I am doing it correctly. I saw where someone on the forum had mentioned that they used QQ and wee able to filter the contacts in some way. I also assume that a contact who is interested in someone 18 to 80 is (maybe) a WG? Are there any other hints that can be picked up on? Anyone who wants to offer some advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

MrClen

[QUOTE=Gregory Pecker;1404554]I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if Yu Ping was still open, and still as good as it was said to be, back in the day?[/QUOTE]I think that is what is called 999, open and good from what I've read.

So far I had one failure where the girl did not understand my questions for directions over the phone in English and I ended up in the hall of a giant appartment block.[/QUOTE]This is common. For their security they will usually only give the street address of their building complex, you have to call their mobile when you arrive at the gate to get details of building and room number. They tend to have very little patience at this stage. I've had several hang up when I asked them to confirm the room number, I think they're not very happy to have a foreign customer anyway, so any difficulty is enough reason for them to stop it. I've also found that different girls will work shifts on the same QQ number, so even if you were accepted on your QQ chat a few hours before, the actual girl "on duty" when you arrive may not agree to it. So you're out on the street in the cold again!

Last weeks girl was smart enough to put the SMS questions in the QQ translator and text me the floor and room number back.[/QUOTE]You were lucky. Very few will communicate by text until they've spoken to you live on the phone. I've also been asked to send a photo or video chat of me or my passport, so they can check out that I'm a real foreigner, and how gruesome! As I reported a few months ago I've not found the QQ experience to be as good as it sounds. I'm still looking for the gem who's worth going back to a second time. I've wasted so much time wandering round Putuo and Xuhui (where many of the apparently beautiful QQ girls seems to be based) , I'm now limiting my search to Huangpu and Pudong so it's a shorter taxi ride home when it doesn't work out!

No, YuPing is not the same as 999, but it is the same owners (as with Hongsong and I think Hailang, and the one out by Marriott Hongqiao).

I went to YuPing probably a month ago and it was still good, although I prefer the girls at hongsong. Yuping still has the best ear digging girls in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Mehappy;1404850]I think that is what is called 999, open and good from what I've read.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]So far I had one failure where the girl did not understand my questions for directions over the phone in English and I ended up in the hall of a giant appartment block. This is common. For their security they will usually only give the street address of their building complex, you have to call their mobile when you arrive at the gate to get details of building and room number. They tend to have very little patience at this stage. I've had several hang up when I asked them to confirm the room number, I think they're not very happy to have a foreign customer anyway, so any difficulty is enough reason for them to stop it. I've also found that different girls will work shifts on the same QQ number, so even if you were accepted on your QQ chat a few hours before, the actual girl "on duty" when you arrive may not agree to it. So you're out on the street in the cold again!

Last weeks girl was smart enough to put the SMS questions in the QQ translator and text me the floor and room number back. You were lucky. Very few will communicate by text until they've spoken to you live on the phone. I've also been asked to send a photo or video chat of me or my passport, so they can check out that I'm a real foreigner, and how gruesome! As I reported a few months ago I've not found the QQ experience to be as good as it sounds. I'm still looking for the gem who's worth going back to a second time. I've wasted so much time wandering round Putuo and Xuhui (where many of the apparently beautiful QQ girls seems to be based) , I'm now limiting my search to Huangpu and Pudong so it's a shorter taxi ride home when it doesn't work out![/QUOTE]Unless you can speak, type, and understand Chinese, I don't recommend QQ. Firstly most pictures are fake. Secondly service level is not consistent. Thirdly it's a lot of work because they are usually on first come first serve schedule. I had waited for over an hour. Fourthly not safe. Once I got into physical fight. Lastly price not much cheaper than full service sauna.

[QUOTE=Mehappy;1404850]I think that is what is called 999, open and good from what I've read.[/QUOTE]Tianyaoqiao road near big stadium? Yes, it's open.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1402085]At the risk of sounding like a jerk, you should re-read those last 20 pages. There are plenty of references to Manhattan. Maybe that should get you started in the right direction.[/QUOTE]I don't recommend pickup. Normally they will try to finish as quickly as they can. No GFE at all. You could get lucky but that would be rare. Just go for sauna for a good service and save some $.

Yes, one has to be careful with their selection of talent from Manhattan, but with every visit there I was able to pull a GFE for LT fun. Last time I had a viet girl really eager to please. Had her for three nights.

So "monger" beware. But yes you can find someone you will like.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone;1405034]I don't recommend pickup. Normally they will try to finish as quickly as they can. No GFE at all. You could get lucky but that would be rare. Just go for sauna for a good service and save some $.[/QUOTE]That's not been my experience at all; I've had good to exceptional service from the half dozen or so Shanghai pickups I've had the pleasure of enjoying over the past couple of visits.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone;1405034]I don't recommend pickup. Normally they will try to finish as quickly as they can. No GFE at all. You could get lucky but that would be rare. Just go for sauna for a good service and save some $.[/QUOTE]I think, it depends what you are looking for. In Manhattan there are a lot of very professional girls. These girls are more agressiv in "marketing" and they also will take as much as they can and than run back to the next customer. If you look for a professional service of a working girl, this is what you look for and what you get. Here it can be a good deal to take a sauna session instead. If you prefer a girlfriend experience, you will have nearly no chance in the sauna, but still in a pickup area. If you try to find a girlfriend experience, than you first should select the more shy girls, than next step treat them like your girlfriend, be kind and show your respect to them, than could be you will get a real girlfriend experience. I had some pickups in the past, never paid more than 1000, but also never even discussed about that. If you ask her in the first contact, than you are back to the working girl business, if she will ask for the money very soon, you got a too professional again. My good choices take place to me, we talk and drink a short time, she ask if I want to go out or home with her. I agree, than we go out with the girl, sometimes we will have some late food somewhere (becaused I asked her, if I can invite her for some food) , than we arrived in the hotel and I handed over 1000 RMB discreetly and we went over to the funny part. And from several girls in the past, only one left before we had a breakfast together. I think if you first pick out the professional girls, than negotiate about service, price and payment ways (for example only 50% in advanced, because she will run away otherwise) , than next step agree about a the deal, than take your "product" home, how can you expect her to change from a "bought product" to a real girlfriend. Treat her like a working girl, and you will get a working girl experience, treat her like a girlfriend, and you will get a girlfriend experience. (ok, sometimes you will fail, but I had girlfriends already with even less girlfriend experience, so it is still just a lucky draw: sometimes you loose, sometimes you win). But in Manhattan you still have a good chance to win the most nights, if you play the right game!

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1405128]I think, it depends what you are looking for. In Manhattan there are a lot of very professional girls. These girls are more agressiv in "marketing" and they also will take as much as they can and than run back to the next customer. If you look for a professional service of a working girl, this is what you look for and what you get. Here it can be a good deal to take a sauna session instead. If you prefer a girlfriend experience, you will have nearly no chance in the sauna, but still in a pickup area. If you try to find a girlfriend experience, than you first should select the more shy girls, than next step treat them like your girlfriend, be kind and show your respect to them, than could be you will get a real girlfriend experience. I had some pickups in the past, never paid more than 1000, but also never even discussed about that. If you ask her in the first contact, than you are back to the working girl business, if she will ask for the money very soon, you got a too professional again. My good choices take place to me, we talk and drink a short time, she ask if I want to go out or home with her. I agree, than we go out with the girl, sometimes we will have some late food somewhere (becaused I asked her, if I can invite her for some food) , than we arrived in the hotel and I handed over 1000 RMB discreetly and we went over to the funny part. And from several girls in the past, only one left before we had a breakfast together. I think if you first pick out the professional girls, than negotiate about service, price and payment ways (for example only 50% in advanced, because she will run away otherwise) , than next step agree about a the deal, than take your "product" home, how can you expect her to change from a "bought product" to a real girlfriend. Treat her like a working girl, and you will get a working girl experience, treat her like a girlfriend, and you will get a girlfriend experience. (ok, sometimes you will fail, but I had girlfriends already with even less girlfriend experience, so it is still just a lucky draw: sometimes you loose, sometimes you win). But in Manhattan you still have a good chance to win the most nights, if you play the right game![/QUOTE]GFE-sounds as if you look at this the same way I try to. Many of the posters on here seem to think all it takes for a GFE is a girl who will do, DFK-BBBJ-CIM-AR, etc, etc. To me, this does make for good service but not true GFE. Now I don't think you are EVER going to get a "real" GFE without a "real" GF, but you can get the service and what feels more GFE. This is as in not quite so professional and mechanical, but with enthusiasm and passion. I can't seem to get it through my head that if you are number XXX for the day or night that she can have any GFE left for you-all you can hope for is decent services-and you are just a walking wallet. I am an older guy, don't quite look my age, but tend to get what I consider (and it varies person to person) a GFE most of the time. I am not sure how often you would get that in the more commercial places or cities, but tend to think it is most prevalent in the less mongered areas. I normally go to KTV's, either alone or with friends, and believe that the GFE comes with getting to know the girl just a little bit better and that you are there to have fun and want her to have fun also-IE; , you actually care about how she feels and the build up to a good night of passion is possible.

Again, I agree with you, win or lose, we still get to play the game! A question for anyone who cares to answer-what is the difference between senior and regular member?

[QUOTE=Gregory Pecker;1404554]Excuse me, brothers, but as a newbie to the site – and having just trawled in vain across the past few months' posts – I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if Yu Ping was still open, and still as good as it was said to be, back in the day? A friend (who hasn't been to Shanghai since 2011) recommended I try it. Any advice would be gratefully received.[/QUOTE]Do you mean xin yu ping?

It's still open.

Good evening fellow mongers. I would like to know if any one knows of any place with hot action, like a massage parlor or sauna with "extras" in the area near Pullman Skyway Hotel. I would appreciate your feedback.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=MrClen;1405174]question for anyone who cares to answer-what is the difference between senior and regular member?[/QUOTE]I thought it depends on the number of posts, but you have even more than I have, so could be you will get a senior member, if you pay for the membership of the forum (necessary to receive private messages).

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1405589]I thought it depends on the number of posts, but you have even more than I have, so could be you will get a senior member, if you pay for the membership of the forum (necessary to receive private messages).[/QUOTE]I did pay for the membership to be able to PM quickly. Anyone know the answer to this?

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1405589]I thought it depends on the number of posts, but you have even more than I have, so could be you will get a senior member, if you pay for the membership of the forum (necessary to receive private messages).[/QUOTE]I didn't pay for membership, yet I'm a Senior Member and can PM.

Actually, I never noticed that I became a Senior Member, but I realized that I could PM one day after hitting a number of posts (can't remember how many). Then again I wasn't counting and just did my duties in reporting my experience in as many cities as I could, hoping that my coverage will help a fellow bro in the near future.

[QUOTE=Equine; 1405612]I didn't pay for membership, yet I'm a Senior Member and can PM.

Actually, I never noticed that I became a Senior Member, but I realized that I could PM one day after hitting a number of posts (can't remember how many). Then again I wasn't counting and just did my duties in reporting my experience in as many cities as I could, hoping that my coverage will help a fellow bro in the near future.[/QUOTE]Maybe it has to do with the quality of the posts. (no hit to you or others intended). Some peopel don't RTF and post, can you tell me this? That? My first posts were all about my trip reports. I remember at first when I posted, it had to be reviewed. Now I post imediately. The world may never know.

Any info where can I get pregnant women for sex / masssage in Shanghai?

Any barber shop or prostitutes or others?

Crosby,

Thanks for sharing your experience. However, based on your report and the other comments I won't be too optimistic. Most likely I will stick to looking for the "better" BBS or some nice MP offering something more than the standard HE.

Gaist

[QUOTE=SamCan;1405705]Maybe it has to do with the quality of the posts. (no hit to you or others intended). Some peopel don't RTF and post, can you tell me this? That? My first posts were all about my trip reports. I remember at first when I posted, it had to be reviewed. Now I post imediately. The world may never know.[/QUOTE]Till 2009, if you got more then 25 posts, you were converted to senior member automatically and could PM without paying. If I remember correctly, the rules changed some time late in 2009 after which you had to pay to use PM

[QUOTE=MrClen;1405607]I did pay for the membership to be able to PM quickly. Anyone know the answer to this?[/QUOTE]You need both 6 months and 25 posts:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=member_type_questions#faq_membership_type_questions_03[/url]

-J

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1404971]No, YuPing is not the same as 999, but it is the same owners (as with Hongsong and I think Hailang, and the one out by Marriott Hongqiao).

I went to YuPing probably a month ago and it was still good, although I prefer the girls at hongsong. Yuping still has the best ear digging girls in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Please correct me if I'm wrong. My taxi note says:

Shen Yu Ping 999 Tianyaoqia Road with a big 999 logo.

So what is a different address for which ever, Yu Ping or 999?

First post here. Has anyone tried the massage parlours on Yinghua Lu and Dujuan Lu near Baiyang Lu? All of them have theme dressing hot babes all offering just sex at 300 for 45 minutes? Any tips from prior experience much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Dewdrops; 1405748]Any info where can I get pregnant women for sex / masssage in Shanghai?

Any barber shop or prostitutes or others?[/QUOTE]Never heart of, never seen any, and also cannot imagine any of the institutions or providers offering.

Lev

[QUOTE=Five Aces; 1405823]Please correct me if I'm wrong. My taxi note says:

Shen Yu Ping 999 Tianyaoqia Road with a big 999 logo.

So what is a different address for which ever, Yu Ping or 999?[/QUOTE]Could be you talk about two different locations (with some incorrect spelling, because of Chinese translation)?

- I know one Sauna called: Xin Yu Ping Hot Spring Clubhouse (#1733 Lian Hua Lu, Building D, Cross-Street Yi Shan Lu)

- Another one is called: 999 Jiu Yuan Sauna Club (999 Tian Yao Qiao Lu)

In the attachment you can get the mobile card for your phone and show it to the taxi driver, than should be easy to go there.

That's correct. Of the two, I like Xin Yu Ping better. The quality of the girls in my opinion are better. Recently though I have been going to Hong Song more often even though it's more pricey (980 vs 880). I think the girls at Hong Song are better quality (look wise) and service wise I find them equal across the board (typical sauna service). I also find that because Hong Song has so many girls, they really appreciate regulars, so I often get special service when I call them before I go.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1405965]Could be you talk about two different locations (with some incorrect spelling, because of Chinese translation)?

- I know one Sauna called: Xin Yu Ping Hot Spring Clubhouse (#1733 Lian Hua Lu, Building D, Cross-Street Yi Shan Lu)

- Another one is called: 999 Jiu Yuan Sauna Club (999 Tian Yao Qiao Lu)

In the attachment you can get the mobile card for your phone and show it to the taxi driver, than should be easy to go there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EightInches;1405836]First post here. Has anyone tried the massage parlours on Yinghua Lu and Dujuan Lu near Baiyang Lu? All of them have theme dressing hot babes all offering just sex at 300 for 45 minutes? Any tips from prior experience much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I find some massage parlours on Yinghua Lu near Baiyang Lu, but didn't know whether they offer any speical service or not.

[QUOTE=EightInches;1405836]First post here. Has anyone tried the massage parlours on Yinghua Lu and Dujuan Lu near Baiyang Lu? All of them have theme dressing hot babes all offering just sex at 300 for 45 minutes? Any tips from prior experience much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I guess you refer to the many BBS there with good looking talent. But.... BBS also means only 5-10 min of (cheap and dirty) action and certainly not 45 min for Y300. Please prove me wrong!

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1406227]I find some massage parlours on Yinghua Lu near Baiyang Lu, but didn't know whether they offer any speical service or not.[/QUOTE]I have not been to these places but based on the adverts, it looks like they are probably legit massage only.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;1406415]I guess you refer to the many BBS there with good looking talent. But. BBS also means only 5-10 min of (cheap and dirty) action and certainly not 45 min for Y300. Please prove me wrong![/QUOTE]I've tried a couple of these, they're reasonable. Reasonably clean, reasonably friendly, was reasonably content when I wandered back out 15 minutes later. They certainly don't want you on the premises for 45 minutes!

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1405838]Never heart of, never seen any, and also cannot imagine any of the institutions or providers offering.

Lev[/QUOTE]Nor I. But someone has just declared a need, so an enterprising person will surely find a way to meet it!

I have hit a few of these. Some of the better BBS around town. The largest selection of large breasted gals I have seen in one area. But I have never been in the there more than 30 minutes and they were not thrilled with that length of time.

[QUOTE=Ringer5;1406743]I've tried a couple of these, they're reasonable. Reasonably clean, reasonably friendly, was reasonably content when I wandered back out 15 minutes later. They certainly don't want you on the premises for 45 minutes![/QUOTE]

POLICE said they have caught more than 30 people during a raid yesterday of six unlicensed massage parlors located across the street from a middle school. The raid took place after angry parents complained that the businesses appeared to be offering sexual services. Young women dressed in revealing clothing were seen posing or even banging against glass entrance doors to attract male customers at the massage parlors in suburban Minhang District on Tuesday. The massage parlors are only about 10 meters away from the entrance to a middle school across the street on Yejiaqiao Road, and many students have to pass by the businesses on their way to and from school.

Full article : [url]http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Metro/2013/04/04/30[/url]%2Bnabbed%2Bin%2Braid%2Bof%2B6%2Bmassage%2Bparlors%2Bnear%2Bschool/

My 2 cents :

- great location and 'brave' LE action, must have needed quite some persuasion and pre-investigation with undercover officers declining HJ etc.

- actually from the description (condom etc) it sounds more like BBS, very revealing clothes etc.

My question : it often baffles me to see such places so open and the girls walking in and out, often making phone calls outside or walking into the shops next door to buy something. Just wonder what the neighbors would think and whether the girls would feel embarrassed (loss of face etc). They usually do not give that impression, perhaps everyone pretends not yo know what happens. Also interesting when you see guys with their SOs walking by, the guys trying not to look at the windows.

Note to self : BE MORE CAREFULL NEXT TIME !!

Hi guys,

I've out of the scene for a while, last time in Shanghai was 4-5 years back. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on any action near Le Royal Meridien. I've already read the past 50 pages or so and I think I prefer BBS or outcall rather than sauna service. But I am just wondering if there's something close to the hotel and is the hotel gf?

Thanks in advance,

MC

[QUOTE=Dewdrops; 1405748]Any info where can I get pregnant women for sex / masssage in Shanghai?

Any barber shop or prostitutes or others?[/QUOTE]Shanghai, no, never have seen. Tokyo, sure, no problem!

[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1406779]POLICE said they have caught more than 30 people during a raid yesterday of six unlicensed massage parlors located across the street from a middle school. The raid took place after angry parents complained that the businesses appeared to be offering sexual services. Young women dressed in revealing clothing were seen posing or even banging against glass entrance doors to attract male customers at the massage parlors in suburban Minhang District on Tuesday. The massage parlors are only about 10 meters away from the entrance to a middle school across the street on Yejiaqiao Road, and many students have to pass by the businesses on their way to and from school.

Full article :

[url]http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nsp/Metro/2013/04/04/30[/url]

%2Bnabbed%2Bin%2Braid%2Bof%2B6%2Bmassage%2Bparlors%2Bnear%2Bschool/

My 2 cents :

- great location and 'brave' LE action, must have needed quite some persuasion and pre-investigation with undercover officers declining HJ etc.

- actually from the description (condom etc) it sounds more like BBS, very revealing clothes etc.

My question : it often baffles me to see such places so open and the girls walking in and out, often making phone calls outside or walking into the shops next door to buy something. Just wonder what the neighbors would think and whether the girls would feel embarrassed (loss of face etc). They usually do not give that impression, perhaps everyone pretends not yo know what happens. Also interesting when you see guys with their SOs walking by, the guys trying not to look at the windows.

Note to self : BE MORE CAREFULL NEXT TIME![/QUOTE]Ha ha, probably all the old tai tai's angry their hubby's getting some action (and spending their money) when they deliver / pick up the grandkid from school. I don't think the general public really cares. Remember, this is a pretty much amoral society, so the sex biz is just another business for the Chinese.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1406938]Ha ha, probably all the old tai tai's angry their hubby's getting some action (and spending their money) when they deliver / pick up the grandkid from school. I don't think the general public really cares. Remember, this is a pretty much amoral society, so the sex biz is just another business for the Chinese.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, the goverment always turn a blind eye to the "special service", unless someone report them.

[QUOTE=Masslin;1407080]I totally agree with you, the goverment always turn a blind eye to the "special service", unless someone report them.[/QUOTE]Or unless someone stop to pay the "fee" to the officials!

Does anyone know if the Swan Lake bath house complex in Hongqiao offers full service? I got the lowest level massage tonight but I'm thinking to head back and see if I can get some full service. OF course HJ would definitely be on the menu. Even with the lowest level massage (220) cutie. While she wasn't willing to give HJ herself. I simply asked permission to jack myself off while she gave me a massage and she said sure. Had a good time while she watched.

[QUOTE=Ocean25;1407333]OF course HJ would definitely be on the menu. Even with the lowest level massage (220) cutie. While she wasn't willing to give HJ herself. I simply asked permission to jack myself off while she gave me a massage and she said sure. Had a good time while she watched.[/QUOTE]Seems Do it yourself (DIY) has finally arrived in Shanghai. How much further (down) can things go?

I've been reading for a long time, and normally do boring HE's hoping for a good massage (thus, not much to add). However this trip I followed post #6534 advice first. At the corner they had a massage place under construction. But if you go up stairs, it was more like a sauna. Didn't choose the girl, but asked for "skinny" and mom complied. For 430 or so, got massage, body on body rub and CBJ. Not too bad. Good for the money. Owner came out and greeted me at the desk, asking how well the experience was.

However on Wednesday, I ran into a bunch of English teachers at a bar. Two found out it was my last night in SH. They took me to Judy's. I'm an old guy and these guys were young, but they had me hooked up with a perfect 10, 20 whyear old Thia. 2.0 USD all night. Big money, but I didn't care. Nice girl, however she had no covers and neither did I. I get tested in three weeks. Fuck! Told wife it was a lap-dance gone bad. How many girls come unprotected?

Hi,

The hotel is definitely girl friendly. Just be sure to never ever pick up any on nanjing dong lu (read the forum for the grisly details). In terms of BBS close by, I think probably the best is along changping lu (again check the forum). It's probably a 10 minute cab ride (no traffic) from Le Meridien.

[QUOTE=MmcGreggor; 1406900]Hi guys,

I've out of the scene for a while, last time in Shanghai was 4-5 years back. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on any action near Le Royal Meridien. I've already read the past 50 pages or so and I think I prefer BBS or outcall rather than sauna service. But I am just wondering if there's something close to the hotel and is the hotel gf?

Thanks in advance,

MC[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimScott1210;1407373]. 2.0 USD all night. Big money,[/QUOTE]What kind of amount did you pay? Unclear.