Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=PrickPriority;2442222]I've been following this discussion and I thank you all for sharing valuable info. I'm fairly new to it all, and I've had a couple of casual arrangements. I'm just curious, from what you've observed, what are the chances of finding a truly exclusive sugar arrangement? Or is that type of thing all in the past now?[/QUOTE]I met a few that were treating dates as possible one-offs and so I treated those dates the same way. But for most of the gals, they wanted only one SD. Of course, if you only see them a couple of times a month, then they'll look for another SD, just like any normal GF would look for a new BF if she feels unwanted.

What a difference 6 weeks make?

The number of really pretty girls that are saying "lost my job due to quarantine, will do anything for some financial help" has gone up exponentially, almost as fast as the virus infections did. LOL.

I have been using that site for about 3 years now mostly in philly erea tons of college girls on there and they are legit I went ti their dorms LOL the average price I'm getting is 300 but I do get 200 ones for a really cute 19 to 23 yr old college cutie when I hit 24 to 39 year olds they push for 400 up they been in the game and know what's up I have gotten free ones on there from lonely girls who want a semi decent boyfriend also. NYC erea start at 400 up for a girl that's a 7 up I have gotten models at that price had one from England was here for photo shoots Saw all the work and took her to the photo shoot also.

I travel the world to monger but in the USA SA is hands down the best.

How much are the girls in Berlin and the rest of Germany usually asking for a date on seeking arrangement? Obviously now is not a good time to date for health reasons but how much Were the girls asking for before the Corona crisis?

In Berlin, Barcelona, and London it's already possible For locals to get a date Not using seeking arrangement for a few hours for 150-200 euros. And in Montral It cost pretty much the same 300 Canadian dollars Which Equals approximately US Dollars $214. Some girls on Seeking arrangement may actually be a little bit more expensive But some girls have lower prices too .

[QUOTE=RomeoJoe;2444165]I have been using that site for about 3 years now mostly in philly erea tons of college girls on there and they are legit I went ti their dorms LOL the average price I'm getting is 300 but I do get 200 ones for a really cute 19 to 23 yr old college cutie when I hit 24 to 39 year olds they push for 400 up they been in the game and know what's up I have gotten free ones on there from lonely girls who want a semi decent boyfriend also. NYC erea start at 400 up for a girl that's a 7 up I have gotten models at that price had one from England was here for photo shoots Saw all the work and took her to the photo shoot also.

I travel the world to monger but in the USA SA is hands down the best.[/QUOTE]I am thinking about getting back on in Austin and San Antonio. I will only pay $300, moving forward, but I will wait for restaurants to open up. I am not worried about the Virus. I prefer the first meeting to be in public for obvious reasons.

I am having a lot of success in MYY, meeting some great girls.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2444328]How much are the girls in Berlin and the rest of Germany usually asking for a date on seeking arrangement? Obviously now is not a good time to date for health reasons but how much Were the girls asking for before the Corona crisis?

In Berlin, Barcelona, and London it's already possible For locals to get a date Not using seeking arrangement for a few hours for 150-200 euros. And in Montral It cost pretty much the same 300 Canadian dollars Which Equals approximately US Dollars $214. Some girls on Seeking arrangement may actually be a little bit more expensive But some girls have lower prices too.[/QUOTE]Prices in London were pretty high. It being an expensive city, even just OK looking girls gave high quotes. I ended up not taking any meets.

In Germany and Spain, I was able to obtain meets for 200 Euros or a bit less. In itself that is not too cheap, as local fuck houses and bordellos are able to provide sessions at that price or even less. But the sugar babe sessions were longer, in my own hotel room, and included unlimited DFK, ball licking and other such things and I was happy with the quality. Another thing I enjoy in own hotel room is a nice fresh shower together. A few girls let me do AO fuck in shower which is also a huge positive.

Prices may be a bit less now given the tough economic conditions. I can easily imagine that many girls are desperate for money. If you didnot see a big dent in personal fortune due to stock markets dip, your money will go much farther these days than even 3 months ago.

At pessimist. I have seen this expression AO fuck, but I never 100% know what it meant. Adults only? Anal only?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2444618]Prices in London were pretty high. It being an expensive city, even just OK looking girls gave high quotes. I ended up not taking any meets.

In Germany and Spain, I was able to obtain meets for 200 Euros or a bit less. In itself that is not too cheap, as local fuck houses and bordellos are able to provide sessions at that price or even less. But the sugar babe sessions were longer, in my own hotel room, and included unlimited DFK, ball licking and other such things and I was happy with the quality. Another thing I enjoy in own hotel room is a nice fresh shower together. A few girls let me do AO fuck in shower which is also a huge positive.

Prices may be a bit less now given the tough economic conditions. I can easily imagine that many girls are desperate for money. If you didnot see a big dent in personal fortune due to stock markets dip, your money will go much farther these days than even 3 months ago.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2444694]At pessimist. I have seen this expression AO fuck, but I never 100% know what it meant. Adults only? Anal only?

.[/QUOTE]It's a German phrase. It means bareback fucking. Short for two German words that start with A and O but they escape me as I don't speak German.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2444694]At pessimist. I have seen this expression AO fuck, but I never 100% know what it meant. Adults only? Anal only?.[/QUOTE]Sorry, it is an expression I picked up on German FKK. It means sex without condom. I would never take such a chance with a prostitute but have done with a few sugar babes.

Forgot to say, AO. Alles ohne, IE all without.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2444739]It's a German phrase. It means bareback fucking. Short for two German words that start with A and O but they escape me as I don't speak German.[/QUOTE]Alles ohn: everything without.

Steve and Jimmy Boy, thanks for the enlightenment. Speaking of AO, that's another benefit of SA, IMHO. Since these gals are not pros, the risks associated with AO are less, especially if you and your SB are exclusive, which is what I often aim for. Incidentally, I have discovered that more gals are willing to do AO after these lockdowns. Well, that's been true in Shanghai, where things are almost back to normal. Some MP gals are even willing to do AO at their shops, because they are desperate for money. I am torn about this, of course. I know that no pussy is worth the risk, but I just love the feeling of AO and it's hard to go back to covered if one has been doing AO on occasion.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2444741]Sorry, it is an expression I picked up on German FKK. It means sex without condom. I would never take such a chance with a prostitute but have done with a few sugar babes.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this is another appealing aspect of SA. Being able to bareback. These days, I have almost no interest in CFS.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2442411]I have never asked for nor sought exclusivity. But in my view, many girls did not have more than one arrangement at a given time anyway. Many have their normal life and were supplementing their normal income with a little extra from being a sugar babe. If you want a girl to be exclusive to you, you should definitely ask. If the girl is willing to have sex with you, she will seriously consider your request. She may use your request to extract a bit more money from you but I don't think she would dump you just because you asked for exclusivity. In fact many girls even say in their profiles that they want monogamous arrangements.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Midwestern;2442635]I met a few that were treating dates as possible one-offs and so I treated those dates the same way. But for most of the gals, they wanted only one SD. Of course, if you only see them a couple of times a month, then they'll look for another SD, just like any normal GF would look for a new BF if she feels unwanted.[/QUOTE]I see. Thank you. Also given the chance to make more money, I don't think many of them would go for one SD. BBFS is one of my motivations for the monogamous arrangements but mainly I just don't want to worry about catching anything right now. Looking to turn my wishful thinking into action maybe next month, but I bet I'll have to rummage through a lot more useless profiles because of the chaos.

I've been following and gathering info from this thread for many weeks as I've been learning the ropes of SA. I have also read some reviews about other sites like Sugardaddie, SecretBenefit and WhatsYourPrice. I think WYP and SA are owned by the same owner. Has any of you tried those ones out? SA seems to be the most expensive one.

I'm a newbie to this kind of arrangement thing. My understanding is that getting into a relationship with a babe on SA is kind of like renting a GF for lack of better words. Right? As I read it somewhere, in an ideal arrangement, you and your date would be like in a real GF / BF relationship only when you're together. When you're apart, you live separate lives and respect each other privacy. It's like she's playing a GF role when you two spend time together. Is that how you characterize it?

With that in mind, when you're having fun together with your SA 'GF', wouldn't you intimately involved in DFK, BBBJ, even bb in everything as if you're in a real romantic relationship? Yes? That would be a great incentive of finding someone from SA as if she's your 'exclusive' GF that you can do bb with. Otherwise, it would be better off to find an escort or visit FKK clubs. Do you see it that way? Have you guys been with an SA girl who would not allow DFK or bb all the way?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2444741]Sorry, it is an expression I picked up on German FKK. It means sex without condom. I would never take such a chance with a prostitute but have done with a few sugar babes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Midwestern;2444778]Since these gals are not pros, the risks associated with AO are less, especially if you and your SB are exclusive, which is what I often aim for. [/QUOTE]
I'm curious if you made sure that she's on some kind of birth control or asked her to take the morning after pills or something. Otherwise, wouldn't you worry that if she ends up getting pregnant, she would go after you for child support? As you may have followed the news, Hunter Biden got sued for child support by a stripper because he got her pregnant.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2432500]Oh and I do agree with u though that real SA girls are not willing to fuck a fat slob for money. In fact the moment it smells vaguely like sex for money u are done. You have to have at least decent looks and some game if u wanna close the hotties and they wont meet u without a pic. I would never post on SA but will text an unsearchable pic after we are comfy.[/QUOTE]Did you imply that if a guy is unattractive or below average look, he would have no luck on SA with a young college hottie even if he is highly successful with a lot of cash laying around? That would suck. In an FKK, you can be a fat slob and can still fuck a 8 or above. It's not like that on SA? I thought the SA ladies have an implicit understanding (without saying or admitting) that they exchange intimacy for gift $. No?

[QUOTE=Akibono;2440682]There is a lot of ways she can find your name if you are not careful. Put the name, geographical location, and approx age, and you are easily unmasked. Even more so if you own property.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2440921]I totally agree with you that it is easy for the gal to know your real identity. It is almost impossible to hide it if you are going to spend quality time (e. G. , dinners, drinks, site-seeing, shows, etc.) with any SB. If you are just meeting for naughty fun only, then maybe it's possible. To me, it was just unbelievable how many of them viewed my LinkedIn profile, which meant that eventually they figured out my real name.[/QUOTE]I understand perfectly that if you're married or in a committed relationship, you want to keep your SA activities secret. I got that. On the other hand, if you're not married, single without dependents, not in any kind of relationship, and not famous, what's the down side of letting your SA girls know who you are? In that case, why would you be so paranoid about that? Are you afraid of being judged or being robbed? I assume you would never bring her home, and she would not know where you live anyway. Am I too naive? Regarding to LinkedIn, you can disable profile view for any member who is not within your network. You have control over that.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2439854]But definitely only show your pic when it is requested. Don't just display it for anyone to see. I also had a pic on my bio, but only showed it when I was sure the person was not someone that I knew from work or from my circle of friends. It would be embarrassing if my coworker or my friend's daughter saw my pic on that site. [/QUOTE]If your coworkers recognize you on SA, then they can be just as guilty or embarrassed (or whatever adjective you have in mind) as you're by being on that site to begin with. Agree? You may be stigmatized, judged, or embarrassed for being on SA by them just as much as they would be by you since you're all on the same site. It goes both way. Doesn't it? Just like the old saying goes, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. That's how I see it.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2418601]In my city, there are so many fakes and flakes on SA. If you hit up white girls in the 18-25 range with attractive photos and slim bodies, only a small percent even respond back.[/QUOTE]That made me wonder. You mean white girls in that age range are mostly faked or have higher expectation, demand, or requirement? Would it be very likely that these girls select their potential SDs based on certain physical attributes such as age, ethnicity, height, look, but NOT just based on the SD's spending power which is the whole concept of SA? It's pretty much a two way street sort of thing. Right? If the ladies are that selective because they get too many messages, that tells me that there are more men than women on SA which is opposite from what SA has advertised for. What's your observation?

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2418630]So I often hope for instant chemistry, so that we can just waltz to the hotel room, so sometimes I roll the dice and book a room for the first date. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2418601]If I am on the road and already have a hotel, I can ask the girl to meet at my hotel.[/QUOTE]I can not imagine any intelligent college educated girl would go to the room upon first meet. If she is truly a regular girl and not a hardened pro, I just can not believe she would go to the room with a guy whom she just met on the first date regardless of how the chemistry turns out to be. A decent girl would not just do that. I have a feeling that some SA ladies are probably escorts. In fact, I believe even more that many are probably professional SBs who use the SA site for making money as an ongoing part-time job to supplement their incomes. They're technically not escorts per se, but they are professional SBs. There is a slight distinction here. Wouldn't you agree?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2432528]Men are all posting their net worth on the website for everyone to see.[/QUOTE]Come on dude! You can not possibly believe those net worth. LOL. I'll take it with a grain of salt. I bet most college educated girls won't take that literally either. When I sign up, I'll probably post my net worth as if I'm a millionaire even though I'm not. LOL.