Phnom Penh

Sovann Mee brought up the same topic with me of procuring a virgin. He quoted, as I recall $500 to $1000. Definitely not my thing.

my last report for this trip, phnom penh. is nice to be back here. as the last year, i went to flamingo hotel, the perfect place with a good service at a honest price. bar around are almost the same, the walkabout seemed to me got even lower. on the other hand i love low end places where i always feel comfortable, maybe because i feel myself as a lowend man, or the women in my country made me feel that way. i went there and also got 2 girls in 2 times. the first one was awful, the second one she sold herself as a viet with good skills in bj, she just wanted to watch tv.

i have to add two experiences in phnom penh i didn't have last year. first of all i explored some #63 parlors and some 154# as well. what can i say. there are people good for that game there are people not good. i am not good. if you care about how the girl look at you, those places are not good. i don't know wether they are or not, but looks like they are forced to be there. they all have this lazy and bored face, looking at you like you were junk. i didn't like. btw 63# is vietnam domain. in my experience girls with such faces will be quite uncollaborative performing perfect starfish meanwhile. if you want the sensation to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], those are the right places. but prices are not as low as this forum usually report.

shangai's bar girls are getting picky. i didn't like that place last year already, and i am not going to like this time neither. but i knew a nice men at flamingo and we spent some time at shangai. food there is not that bad, for sure better then walkabout. hey fellows, you want a good massage? go in the massage parlor in front of flamingo. i mean real massage, not a fake one. trye the oil one hour and half.

then i went to martini. i didn't go there last year, i imagined it like a huge garden with everything spread out on a large area. it is not. it is a garden indeed, but everything is under your eyes. i like that place and most important, i got the better contact i've ever had in phnom penh. finding a good girl i know is just a matter of luck. being in the right place helps but never grant results. there are many little viet at martini, some cambodian stunners, and some expired women. long legs, short legs, big boops, small boops. whatsoever. the first time i went there it was very easy. i was with a friend. a little tiny light small nice sweet shy viet girl looked at me. i got hard in one second. i went for her, she just told me her name, put her hands on my chest and her head on my shoulder (well, almost, i was one feet and half taller then her, but she weared high heels, very high heels). we were on a motorbike in few minutes. my friend however didn't like the place, so we stopped on the way back at heart of darkness, he didn't know it. inside some girls of the shangai pub, and tourists. not really a lot of people, but it was not the weekend. we left him there and we went back to hotel. she undressed, without clothes she looked like a dolly, a real little dolly. she was sweet and nice. she asked me 20$ i had only 15$ so she took the 15$ and ask me to go back at martini the next night to give her the others 5. deal. so i did next evening, but i couldn't find her. as long as i was there some girls approched me, one was a cambodian stunner, really, i am still complaining i didn't get her, but i thought i had to behave correctly and i was there to look for the viet girl and i was waiting for her. i really think if we start to behave unfair then those girls will learn, day by day, to behave as well. but she didn't come. i thought maybe she got a customer and already went away for lt. then i got back once again next night. didn't find her neither.

while i was there looking at her, a small little happy jumpy cambodian girl, playing snooker with a man, start to smile at me. i got seat near the table and wait for events. she was the happiest girl i've ever seen. she just couldn't stop moving and laughing. in short, when we got in my room, she undressed and start to jump on the bed. and because the low ceiling she bump on it and fell down on the bed laughing and laughing. i got even a picture of her while jumping, attached to this post. then she bj me. yes, this was the trip of bj for me. she was the last one of this trip so...
that's all folks.

[QUOTE=Brenno]......Phnom Penh. Is nice to be back here. .....a small little happy jumpy cambodian girl, playing snooker with a man, start to smile at me. I got seat near the table and wait for events. She was the happiest girl I've ever seen. She just couldn't stop moving and laughing. In short, when we got in my room, she undressed and start to jump on the bed. And because the low ceiling she bump on it and fell down on the bed laughing and laughing. I got even a picture of her while jumping, attached to this post. Then she BJ me. Yes, this was the trip of BJ for me. She was the last one of this trip so... That's all folks.[/QUOTE]Hi Brenno,

Very nice action picture.

Cheers

I'm in thailand and have been 5 times. I want to see something different before I go to the USA. I'll probably be going myself and feel leary of a new place. Can someone suggest some basics, ie. where to go from the airport, (hotel, etc)

I pay 50 us in Thailand per night, but would like to pay less. I would like to see some sites as well as having some fun. Also just what not to do to stay out of trouble. Also I'm open to going to siem riep instead since I'll just have 3-4 days.

Thanks in advance. I feel real safe obviously wandering pattaya and bangkok, is there any reason to feel different in Cambodia?

[QUOTE=Wendella]
Me, my preference is for Martini cuz I like being able to be on my own as long as I want, and also be able to peruse a big selection. In lots of other places, you walk in the door and immediately are the one selected (Cyrcee is good example, or the 104 St bars) with the girls jumping in right next to you before you even order your drink. No time to survey the scene or pick and choose. Some guys dig that and enjoy the attention. And I can understand that. It's just not what I like.[/QUOTE]
I have a beer and look around in Le Cyrcee (or the bars on 104, 136, etc). Even though the girls have crowded around if I see something interesting I motion for her to come over. I get rid of the other girls as nicely as possible (or ignore them and they go away). But I take the one I want.

RMW

[QUOTE=Berny X]I'm in thailand and have been 5 times. I want to see something different before I go to the USA. I'll probably be going myself and feel leary of a new place. Can someone suggest some basics, ie. where to go from the airport, (hotel, etc)

I pay 50 us in Thailand per night, but would like to pay less. I would like to see some sites as well as having some fun. Also just what not to do to stay out of trouble. Also I'm open to going to siem riep instead since I'll just have 3-4 days.

Thanks in advance. I feel real safe obviously wandering pattaya and bangkok, is there any reason to feel different in Cambodia?[/QUOTE]
If you read about the last 20-25 pages in this forum you will be off to a good start. You will notice Flamingos Hotel mentioned many times. I find it safe to walk around in my areas of PP. But there are many warnings in this forum about the houses on street 63.

If you want info on site seeing and getting around try some of the tourist sites. [url]http://www.canbypublications.com/[/url] gives great Cambo tourist information.

I just came back from Siem Reap. If you are going there just for mongering IMO skip it and stay in PP. If you want to do the tourist thing then Siem Reap is cool. There is action there but a little harder to find and often more expensive.

RMW

Tell you what Berny - don't do anything worse than you would do in the USA and you likely won't have any trouble

(of course, if you are prone to walk in Central Park after dark in dimly lit areas, you are beyond my help) :)

PP is pretty much "OK" and just like any city, there are places to avoid at all costs (or the resultant "cost" will be "high") being LARGE doesn't hurt, though - singles tend to avoid large guys, packs might be an issue, but I'm pretty good myself at recognizing potential "situations" (unless drunk, but them I'm in or on a moto anyway)

Don't wear bling, don't flash $$$, don't get steeenking drunk and fall down on the street, lock up your wallet at least in your bag before you retire with that lady for the night, RTFF (above all, RTFF), watch the traffic (it's WORSE than you can EVER imagine and NEVER step out where a Mercedes is - it has a built in gunsight hood ornament for pedestrians), don't expect much in medical facilities outside of PP... little things like that :(

You can take a taxi everywhere, you can ride in the moto-rickshaws, you can walk (lit streets are better) Airport to center of town is about $7. Personally I like the open rickshaw and take pix - they are going slow enough to get good pix. One thing about not speaking the language, though - you might find a driver who doesn't speak a lot of ENGLISH (and if you speak another language as a native speaker, unless it's FRENCH, possibly Russian or Chinese, "rots a ruck" - they MIGHT know where you want to go, might NOT, too and the lack of language skills won't "help" things. Outside of the border areas any pa-sa THAI you know will do LITTLE good other than to generate a "blank stare" - or yu might get lucky and find someone who had been working in Thailand...)

Low prices for most things except food (not "high" but seemed to be more than Thailand) Rooms start at $5 for "good, clean" FAN rooms, $10 for AC. Pick a spot and stay (a room with a safe is "better" of course)

personally, I LOVE the place. been there, done that, enjoyed it immensely

(BTW - Ochiteual Beach in Snooky is far better than almost any in Thailand, lots cleaner as long as you stay away from the port area)

GO TO ANGKHOR (SIEM REIP) BEFORE THE PLACE IS TOTALLY FUCKED UP BY THE DO GOODERS!!

take lots of PIX - every turn is a photo op of usually postcard quality

I just put in a search for savann Mee and did not come up with anything. Can anyone giv em his contact info?

I just put in a search for Sovann Mee and did not come up with anything. Can anyone give me his contact info?

Dinghy,

Thanks for the info. Has anybody done the land route to siem riep from Pattaya? I know it's long, but should it be avoided and just take the plane?

[QUOTE=Berny X]Dinghy,

Thanks for the info. Has anybody done the land route to siem riep from Pattaya? I know it's long, but should it be avoided and just take the plane?[/QUOTE]

If you must use the same road at all that goes from Bangkok to Siem Reap, it's treacherous. Since that is a key roadway for traffic running between Cam and Thai., I'd assume that other less important roads in that part of the country are in similarly horrific state. It's uncomfortable to the point of absurdity.

[QUOTE=Wendella]If you must use the same road at all that goes from Bangkok to Siem Reap, it's treacherous. Since that is a key roadway for traffic running between Cam and Thai., I'd assume that other less important roads in that part of the country are in similarly horrific state. It's uncomfortable to the point of absurdity.[/QUOTE]

I can attest to road conditions that defy imagination, and drivers that push the limits of the vehicles towards certain death. I have taken the path from PP to Pattaya, which I believe is the same as Siem Reap. Typically the transit will go SR to PP to Pattaya. It is not really worth the financial savings, I would just do the boat from KK to Sihanouke, or fly if doing it again.
However, it will prove to be a lifelong memory.
Cheers

FYI, his handle is "driver sovan mee", hope this helps.

Shamas O'Dognasty

There are 4 ways to do the trip in the Cambodia part

SR to Poipet (120 miles of either dusty or muddy road and takes about 4 hours or so depending on road conditions)

SR to Battambang (you wind up going down thru Sway to Battambang, then Battambang to Paillin and entering Thailand from there - but watch it - there have been some entry into Thailand scams going on at the border where they want a bus tickey "onward" - go read trip reports from "talesofasia.com" - it's about the best overland travel site out there - and they don't do the sex part so it's NOT a competing site to this one)

SR to PP and then PP to either Poipet (you just went a long ways out of the way to get where you could have gone direct) or Paillin (see above - you REALLY need to know how to do it this way or have someone with you who speaks Khmer or English (there))

SR to PP to Koh Kong (you cut off the route ro S'ville about 100 miles and head west thru the Cardamoms. Scenic trip but it takes about 7 hours from PP with 2 new bridge crossings and 2 ferry crossings - it used to be 4 ferry crossings. Take lots of fluids because except for the ferry crossings they try not to stop. Read the reports on "tales" but you will need to drill down into the reports which are in chronological order. They WERE dropping people right at the border, then 110B minibus ride to Trat, then a bus north to Rayong, then change for a bus to Pattaya.)

Alternately screw it and fly back on AirAsia for $55 or so plus the $25 departure fee - 1 hour. IF you are in PP, the AirAsia office is very close to "International Hotel"

I do the overland in ONE direction because I like the trip...ah, the "adventure" of it all. Besides, I want to see how much progress they are making on the remaining 2 bridges (be there in 10 weeks)

[QUOTE=Berny X]I'm in thailand and have been 5 times. I want to see something different before I go to the USA. I'll probably be going myself and feel leary of a new place. Can someone suggest some basics, ie. where to go from the airport, (hotel, etc)

I would like to see some sites as well as having some fun. Also just what not to do to stay out of trouble. Also I'm open to going to siem riep instead since I'll just have 3-4 days.
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I'd say FLY to Phnom Penh, that road trip is hell. If you really want to see some sights and feel like you really saw something, head straight to Angkor Wat the next day and take 3 days or so to go around and see all the temples. Ask for the VIP bus to go from PP to Siem Reap, it was $12 last time I took it, gets you there by afternoon. Very comfortable, they even give you a coffee and croissant as you set off. Phnom Penh's sights and atmosphere are nothing great. Sihanoukville is a normal beach town, and beachwise isn't near as good as Thailand's best (they must have good drugs there tho, if anyone could think that -- its good, not great -- murky brownish water, for one). You said you wanted something different than Thailand. Angkor is different. Phnom Penh and S'ville are cheaper, smaller versions of what Thailand has to offer -- PP as mongering destination with bars & clubs (fewer girls than in BKK or PTY and finding hot ones is tougher in PP); SV has some very seedy venues, not for the faint of heart. Siem Reap is all about Angkor and its venues are expensive, lousy, not even worth the visit unless you're really desperate.

If you're mainly interested in mongering and are happy with sth just a bit diff than Thailand, then by all means go to PP and SV. You might be disappointed (very few super-hotties, sometimes none), or you might dig it. (cheap)