Arriving late in the evening on 19 February, heading by bus to PP the next morn. Any suggestions on reasonably priced hotel would be appreciated. If they're chica friendly. That would a positive.
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Arriving late in the evening on 19 February, heading by bus to PP the next morn. Any suggestions on reasonably priced hotel would be appreciated. If they're chica friendly. That would a positive.
All the places are open (business as usual?). I am staying at Ave Pasteur and all the places nearby are open.
Was in Teresa and the one right next door to shakey. ($100 / hr in-house and $115 dos horas take-out, respectively)
The area looked safe with NP patrols and guards.
Here is the map in case you are new.
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Have fun.
I have been quoted these same numbers at the high end casas. This is one of the reason I do not use them. For a hundred bucks I can bang my local girls in the states. The charm of the DR is banging pretty young girls at discount rates. I pay 1500 pesos 37 bucks in SD for SWs Most will provide service for a 1000 pesos so the 1500 makes them very happy. The ladies tend to be part timers looking for some quick money. I take my time and pick the ones that are attractive and pleasant to talk to. If I have a good session I keep their number and make them a regular. There are some cheaper casas but man are they seedy. If money is no object and you want a in and out casas are great. I like the feel of hunting. On my last trip I had a SW come over and she give me a good by fuck for a 500 pesos gift. She showed up at 8 in the morning ready to work she was not going to charge me because I told her I was low on cash. I gave my last pesos before leaving which was 500. I tend to treat the ladies I bang very nice. I dance ,joke and give great baby oil massages. I try to give the girls a good time so when they leave we both had a good time. The girls really perform well when they are relaxed and comfortable. You have to speak some Spanish and some game to pull it off but in the DR everything is possible.
[QUOTE=BladeMaster; 1511094]All the places are open (business as usual?). I am staying at Ave Pasteur and all the places nearby are open.
Was in Teresa and the one right next door to shakey. ($100 / hr in-house and $115 dos horas take-out, respectively)
The area looked safe with NP patrols and guards.
Here is the map in case you are new.
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Have fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1511195]I have been quoted these same numbers at the high end casas. This is one of the reason I do not use them. For a hundred bucks I can bang my local girls in the states. The charm of the DR is banging pretty young girls at discount rates. I pay 1500 pesos 37 bucks in SD for SWs Most will provide service for a 1000 pesos so the 1500 makes them very happy. The ladies tend to be part timers looking for some quick money. I take my time and pick the ones that are attractive and pleasant to talk to. If I have a good session I keep their number and make them a regular. There are some cheaper casas but man are they seedy. If money is no object and you want a in and out casas are great. I like the feel of hunting. On my last trip I had a SW come over and she give me a good by fuck for a 500 pesos gift. She showed up at 8 in the morning ready to work she was not going to charge me because I told her I was low on cash. I gave my last pesos before leaving which was 500. I tend to treat the ladies I bang very nice. I dance ,joke and give great baby oil massages. I try to give the girls a good time so when they leave we both had a good time. The girls really perform well when they are relaxed and comfortable. You have to speak some Spanish and some game to pull it off but in the DR everything is possible.[/QUOTE]My Spanish is not bueno but I am walking your path my man!
I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'. I wanted to give you my take on my very first experience in Santo Domingo's Colonial Zone. I KNOW I made some huge mistakes, and even I admit that my next trip will go better. I often felt like I was bleeding money. You are all welcome to flame the decisions I've made in exchange for some good advice.
Tagged: A month or so before the trip, I went on Tagged and tried to make contact with some chicas. I put a pic and kept it simple: 'Hi, I'm coming to your beautiful country for the first time. I would love a tour guide. ' I wrote about 15 women – no one responded. I don't know how you guys do it.
My spanish speaking is on an intermediate level, I can say what I want, but understanding rapid-fire Spanish with a native is challenging. I know it well enough to have a brief conversation, but can't get the intricacies of the language. I don't know how you guys do it. I do not see a way to successfully navigate the DR without Spanish, unless you are on a resort. And even though the exchange was about $1US = $43DP; this gap means nothing if you're staying in the Colonial Zone in a tourist location (daily cruise ships came in just a few blocks away).
I read these boards and tried to follow much of the advice I learned here. Alas, it became so confusing to figure out the 'matter-of-fact' postings by the veterans, the acronyms (still not sure what BB, GBP and FOD mean) , what to do and what not to do, where to go and where not to go, etc, that I finally decided that safety should be my biggest concern. Dress down, exchange money only at the banks, and ask for how much things cost before accepting them. My primary purpose for travelling to SD was to sightsee, while keeping my eyes and ears open for available chicas.
Day 1:
My plane was supposed to touch down at 2:30 pm but there was an emergency with an infant on the plane, so we had to go back to the US for emergency landing. I didn't get into the Colonial Zone until 7:30 pm. The taxi from the airport was $40US for a 15 min ride to the hotel. I balked at this and tried to find better, but I reread my Expedia booking and sure enough, all the hotels in the area were $40US. I read about how you guys get much better rates. I don't know how you guys do it.
I asked the taxi driver in Spanish 'What are the Dominican ladies like here? ' I found that asking a taxi driver this immediately opens up a conversation to find prostitutes. He wanted to take me somewhere right then.
My hotel was the Hotel Frances, a beautiful boutique hotel. My room on the second floor had 20+ foot ceilings. Problem was, everything there costs money, and with a guard manning the doors to let you in, they did not seem chica-friendly. So I got to the hotel starving; the staff pointed me down a dark, rundown street to a courtyard on El Conde, where I found 2-3 decent Americanized restaurants. While eating at Green, I scouted the lively scene for chicas. One white guys in his 60s passed by with a dark skinned Dominican chica in her 20s. Really sticks out, and some Dominican patrons next to me took note of it as well. Then another couple like this walked by. Then in front of me, another 60's white guy was talking to an attractive chica who looked to be 20-21. He got up and walked away and left her there. She sat a bit longer, got up and left, but not before slowly lingering in front of me. Very nice body, but, alas, I was tired from the flight and it was just too early for me.
Day2:
Walked around El Conde and found a supermarket for water. Many hombres walk up to me to sell beads, rides, and girls. I read to not accept a taxi from some random person, so I let the hotel arrange my trips. Up comes Luis, nice guy, but it was $20 US roundtrip to go to Jaragua Casino (10 minute drive).
Jaragua was moderately busy. Some chicas standing around in the corner, and it seemed to me that a few were playing slots. Made eye contact with a few. One lady, mid-30s, was breaking her neck to get a look at me. Just above average in looks, big rack. Later she passed me and said something in Spanish I couldn't understand. Knowing that I wasn't staying at the casino, and not knowing then that I could bring her to my hotel, not knowing the cost of that, etc. I decided to let her walk away.
Spoke briefly to an older man there, who said he had been in DR for 20 years (he's probably on this board). After a brief convo he left, then I kicked myself for not offering him a drink to rack his brain a little. For my whole trip he would be the only one I met that spoke clear English. Being alone, and not knowing how anything worked, I really did feel uncomfortable.
Walked to the next casino (Dream?) – dead. Walked further and a taxi guy walked over and stopped me. He wanted me to go to this club. I said no, so he's says it costs nothing to look inside. So I go, come to find out this place is a casa called Club 305. I walk in, the only male, and am immediately surrounded by bumping music and 15 gorgeous chicas. I was seriously eyeing one, but another would not leave me alone to get my bearings, but finally two guys walked in. One explained what goes on in broken English-4000DP for 2 hours. I was not prepared financially, so I waited for a group of Asian tourists to come in to take the girls' attention, then I snuck out.
Day 3:
SD History Tour / Tres Ojos / Los Tigres: $4000DP for the day tour, which included stops to vendors selling beads and other crap. I wanted to check out a Dominican baseball game, since I heard it was an exciting experience. The hotel told me $20US roundtrip; Luis showed up again. For $450DP, I sat just a few rows behind home plate. Fun game but no big deal. This was only time during my trip that I was able to take advantage of the DP to US price differences. Luis agreed to wait for me, and I found him no problem. I asked him to take me to a casa. Of course he knew of one.
Casa Teresa: Because I had been to Club 305, I knew better what to expect. Looked like a strip club, bumping music, poles and 10-12 absolutely gorgeous chicas. I sat for a bit to get my bearings, finally settling on one. With the blasting music, we couldn't understand each other at all, but agreed to a $3500DP house fee for 2 hours. Add in $200DP tip for attendent, $300DP tip for chica, $250DP for a RedBull for me and $250DP for a beer for her (which she barely drank; just more money to the house). Pretty, light-skinned Dominican, great body, but very impersonal experience, on par with the exact non-GFE experience you'll get from BackPage escorts in the US. Took about 30 minutes. She was dressed and back on the floor before I even paid for the entire bill. I ended up paying Luis the equivalent of about $22US for roundtrip, and since I saw him come into the casa, I'm sure he got a kickback from them as well. So now I know what the 'pro experience' is all about.
Day4:
Boca Chica. I opted out of the day long excursion offered the day before, so I walked around El Conde again. Bought some Viagra at a local farmacia. In US, Viagra was $180US for 6 x 50mg tabs with a prescription; In DP Viagra was 1600DP ($37US) for 4 x 100 mg tabs with no prescription. Viagra is almost impossible to buy online. Walking around, I saw the other tour guide that met me during the SD tour and remembered (of course) I was offered a short trip to Boca Chica. He undercut him and offered a roundtrip for 3 hours for $70US.
Boca Chica: I hated Boca Chica. Beautiful beach blocked by hotels, restaurants and souvenir shops. I walked up and down the strip and was absolutely miserable. I don't know how you guys do it. There was a certain seediness that I didn't like. Walking solo, I was approached every 4-5 minutes, by vendadores selling everything from beads to conches. Chicas walked up to talk to me, but they were mostly too unattractive for my taste. I walked from one end to the other, seeing a multitude of bars and restaurants populated with older men (French, German, Dutch, etc.) talking with each other with really young, disinterested chicas sitting next to them.
A semi-attractive SW chica walks up behind me, asking if I want anything. Just wanting to leave at this point, I politely tell her no. So I walk back and decide to sit on a beach jetty. I look and there is the chica again staring at me. After about 5 minutes, here she is walking over to me. We chat for about 30 minutes. So I ask her if she wants to walk a little, she says yes, and before I know it, I'm paying to use a motel room for 2 hrs. Damage $700 DP for the room for 2 hours, $2000 for the girl. I broke my rule and made the critical error of paying for the room first and then negotiating with the chica. The session was average; she was not as I'd like, even though we took showers before the deed. 30 minutes.
I respectfully made this review long to show you what my experience was. People tend to only outline their 'wins' on this board, but I also think it's also important to show how you can screw this up. I knowthat I made many mistakes, and there were a LOT of things I could have done differently. I limped back to the states, happy to stop the bleeding. I will be back, but perhaps not to SD for awhile, because I really don't feel like I enjoyed the country or the women. I still don't know how you guys do it. But I do understand that the learning curve for navigating this country is real and I'm glad I came back in one piece.
You are welcome to leave your opinions, comments or suggestions.
Thanks
[QUOTE=UTwoGood;1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'.[/QUOTE]Welcome U2. This is one of the best reports I've read here. Thank you. It was honest, well-written and gut-wrenching true to the bone. I think my new mantra will be "I don't know how you guys do it."
In my opinion, your biggest mistake was not doing sufficient research. You could have asked if you weren't sure of something. Your next biggest mistake, in my opinion of course, was not going there with the right attitude, I. E, this is the Caribbean and things just don't work the same especially how people think. But live and learn, and I didn't start off any differently. My first trip to the DR was not unlike yours. I went primarily for sightseeing and the chicas were secondary. I continue to go there but it took a while getting used to. I still consider myself a noobie after about 7 or 8 visits. Also, consider that there might be better places to go to suit your needs; that is for you to decide. It's a big world. BTW, this is not the only DR board in the galaxy.
I will defer to others to address the specifics.
You just confirmed my conviction. SD is a very tough place for beginners. It requires twice a much Spanish as other venues in the DR. You showed great initiative but your failing was not negotiating more. The colonal zona is not a bad base for mongering at all. Many good places to eat SWs walking around and very safe. On the bad side you can be a target if you let your guard down. You just need to call your shots. Never let the hotel order you a cab. You will all ways pay to much. If you walk 2 blocks cabs will be lined up fighting for you business. The price for high end casas does not work for me. You end up paying $120 plus for a basic quickie. 1st rule in the DR is everything is negotiable. Your cab driver was ripping you a new one. The ride to jaraqua is 200 DP all day long maybe 250.
I agree with your view of BC Very seedy but in all fairness you need to go at night. 70 bucks to go there is a huge rip. You can catch a publico bus for under 10 bucks round trip. You have to ask friendly local questions. $70 is 2 weeks pay in the DR. I usually arrange a internet date when I go to SD. This takes the pressure off of finding some one quickly. You had all the tools you needed you just need a little instruction and practice. Great report. Love your honesty.
[QUOTE=UTwoGood; 1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'. I wanted to give you my take on my very first experience in Santo Domingo's Colonial Zone. I KNOW I made some huge mistakes, and even I admit that my next trip will go better. I often felt like I was bleeding money. You are all welcome to flame the decisions I've made in exchange for some good advice.
Ack, but perhaps not to SD for awhile, because I really don't feel like I enjoyed the country or the women. I still don't know how you guys do it. But I do understand that the learning curve for navigating this country is real and I'm glad I came back in one piece.
You are welcome to leave your opinions, comments or suggestions.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Glad you had fun, next time you might want to leave the T shirt home that clearly said, "Soy Gringo, me llamo ATH"!
You can call a legit taxi co called Apollo, and they quote you the price over the phone, then if you like the taxista, get his cell.
The hotel drivers you used not only gouged you, but got a commission as well.
[QUOTE=UTwoGood;1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'. I wanted to give you my take on my very first experience in Santo Domingo's Colonial Zone. I KNOW I made some huge mistakes, and even I admit that my next trip will go better. I often felt like I was bleeding money. You are all welcome to flame the decisions I've made in exchange for some good advice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1511792]Glad you had fun, next time you might want to leave the T shirt home that clearly said,"Soy Gringo, me llamo ATH"!
You can call a legit taxi co called Apollo, and they quote you the price over the phone, then if you like the taxista, get his cell.
The hotel drivers you used not only gouged you, but got a commission as well.[/QUOTE]I agree with Buscemi. These drivers were not being honest. But, anyone who thinks they understand the pricing system in Sto Domingo is kidding himself.
Here is what I now do. I go to wherever I am going and hand the driver 200 pesos when I arrive. If its unsatisfactory, he tells me. If it seems like a long drive, I hand him 300 pesos. Based on only a few days of doing this, I concluded that this works.
By the way, if you stay at the Palacio (recommended. VERY chica friendly and not a bad place) , the front desk will call you a cab, and the drivers appear to be honest.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1511808]I agree with Buscemi. These drivers were not being honest. But, anyone who thinks they understand the pricing system in Sto Domingo is kidding himself.
Here is what I now do. I go to wherever I am going and hand the driver 200 pesos when I arrive. If its unsatisfactory, he tells me. If it seems like a long drive, I hand him 300 pesos. Based on only a few days of doing this, I concluded that this works.
By the way, if you stay at the Palacio (recommended. VERY chica friendly and not a bad place) , the front desk will call you a cab, and the drivers appear to be honest.[/QUOTE]Here's my take on the taxis is SD. The taxis outside the Palacio are more expensive. But they're nicer and bigger and have AC. I have a card for one of the drivers, Antonio, who has a nice SUV. I still use him on occasion even though I don't stay at the Palacio any more, but he doesn't give much of a break. But you get what you pay for and I never felt like I was overpaying when I used him. Apolo is the way to go if you want to be economical. I found most taxis outside the tourist areas are reasonable as long as you verify price beforehand. At times I had difficulty on the phone with Apolo since I only speak basic Spanish. [BTW, my lack of Spanish fluency was not a major hindrance. ] I think they're missing out on a big source of revenue, the gringo tourist, by not hiring an English speaking person, but whatever. Generally, I had the girl call and it was no issue. Short distance (zona colonial to the malecon for example) costs under 200 pesos and within 15 or so minutes generally cost about 200. I did exactly the same as you, Forest, when using a taxi outside the tourist areas. I gave 200 pesos and never had a problem. If it was going to be under 200, I would've left the change as a tip anyway.
I find it amazing that the taxis by the park by Hard Rock Cafe (I forget the name of the park) charge a standard $10 and I was never able to get them to take off more than a buck or 2. They only quote prices in USD. I called Apolo in front of one of these guys and he watched me get in the taxi and seemingly didn't give a crap. I guess there are lots of tourists saying "I don't know how you guys do it" in the area, haha.
Publicos are an even better option. With some girls, I took publicos often and it cost something ridiculous, like 50 pesos, maybe less. These are public taxis that run along specified routes. You have to know the area pretty well to know which publico to take, something I am entirely uncomfortable with but an option if you're with a chica.
On another note, I don't think I will ever stay in a hotel again in SD or some other places in the DR. There are plenty of apartments for rent in Santo Domingo for short stay, I. E, under a week. I stayed in an apartment in my last 2 trips, one to Sosua and the other in Santo Domingo. They are far less expensive and can be very nice. There are pluses and minuses, but the biggest plus for me is that you get a bigger bang (so to speak) for the buck.
[QUOTE=UTwoGood;1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'. I wanted to give you my take on my very first experience in Santo Domingo's Colonial Zone. I KNOW I made some huge mistakes, and even I admit that my next trip will go better. I often felt like I was bleeding money. You are all welcome to flame the decisions I've made in exchange for some good advice.[/QUOTE]I don't think Santo Domingo is easy for beginners. The sex establishments are commercial in nature, which will affect the price and quality of the sexual experience.
This is still a lot better than the comparable situation in the US where brothels are illegal and if you pick up a stripper from a nightclub and take her home, it will probably cost you a lot, with no guarantee of exceptional performance on her part. And it is not legal.
The real advantage of the DR is that you can use the Internet to get younger, more attractive women than you probably can in the US, and that since prostitution is legal, there is no legal risk involved on either side. Even in the US using free social media sites like OKCupid, it is entirely possible for an old fogey like me (over 60) to get laid for free by fairly attractive women in their mid 30's to early 40's, but it make take quite a bit of work, e-mailing, etc. And a few days to get a result. Taking the same kind of approach in the DR, you can line up a bevy of beauties from 18 to 25 via social media sites, with the certainty that as long as you are willing to reward them financially, girlfriend-style no-strings or few strings sex will be available on the first date almost regardless of how sexually attractive you are yourself.
For the person who wants a vacation where the primary objective is having sex with a number of women, Sosua is a much better bet, because most of the chicas are freelancers which creates more of an aura of spontaneity, and of course there are many, many chicas to choose from. Additionally all is within walking distance. Blackbeards (BB) and Field of Dreams (FOD) near Puerto Plata are also decent destination resorts for those who prefer a more curated sexual experience.
UTwoGood,
This report maybe should not have been posted in the LINKS to reports of distinctions (and that's why I don't really feel comfortable taking up space in this thread with general feedback.)
When that is said, I personally think it's very good when someone have the courage to, and the heart to write about the bad trips as well.
They might be even more valuable than the "letters to penthouse novels" that frequent the forum. (you should just know how many walking sexgods we see here on the forum, these guys really are god's true gift to women *smile*)
My absolute best suggestion to you would be to pay a years subscription here, and get in private contact with senior members that can point you in good directions wherever you want to go in the world.
You stay in good hotels and spend the money when you travel, so the pocketchange you are paying for a subscription, will pay back the first day on your next travel.
In fact, If you decide to get yourself senior member status, you can write to me and I will answer.
So sorry to hear that you had a bad time, but the good thing is that if you want, you can be so much better prepared next time, wherever you go.
Happy Holidays, and a happy new year to you and all you fellow friends out there, known and unknown.
Best Regards, Ken Apples.
[QUOTE=UTwoGood; 1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'.
I respectfully made this review long to show you what my experience was. People tend to only outline their 'wins' on this board, but I also think it's also important to show how you can screw this up. I know that I made many mistakes, and there were a LOT of things I could have done differently. I limped back to the states, happy to stop the bleeding. I will be back, but perhaps not to SD for awhile, because I really don't feel like I enjoyed the country or the women. I still don't know how you guys do it. But I do understand that the learning curve for navigating this country is real and I'm glad I came back in one piece.
You are welcome to leave your opinions, comments or suggestions.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UTwoGood; 1511570]I just wanted to tell my experiences In Santo Domingo. This post should also be called 'I don't know how you guys do it'. I wanted to give you my take on my very first experience in Santo Domingo's Colonial Zone. I KNOW I made some huge mistakes, and even I admit that my next trip will go better. I often felt like I was bleeding money. You are all welcome to flame the decisions I've made in exchange for some good advice.
I respectfully made this review long to show you what my experience was. People tend to only outline their 'wins' on this board, but I also think it's also important to show how you can screw this up. I knowthat I made many mistakes, and there were a LOT of things I could have done differently. I limped back to the states, happy to stop the bleeding. I will be back, but perhaps not to SD for awhile, because I really don't feel like I enjoyed the country or the women. I still don't know how you guys do it. But I do understand that the learning curve for navigating this country is real and I'm glad I came back in one piece.
You are welcome to leave your opinions, comments or suggestions.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Its been said before and I will say it again, SD sucks for mongering if you don't have established chicas and a good wingman.
From Reports of Distincition.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1511969]Its been said before and I will say it again, SD sucks for mongering if you don't have established chicas and a good wingman.[/QUOTE]I grit my teeth whenever I see stuff like this but I have bitten my tongue in the past for fear of starting a brouhaha. This is a myth that has been perpetuated over and over by a few people. IMO, it is a myth. I get along just fine with basic Spanish. While fluency in the language would definitely be helpful, it doesn't deter me from doing very much. A long time member lives in SD and barely speaks any Spanish. He's not only a pro with the wimmin, but he has no problem with day to day living including and amazingly (to me) the publicos and metro. Wingman? I never saw that term used until I came here and I thought it was someone who helped find good chicken places. I go vegetarian in the DR.
Jooks.
Wouldn't you agree that the North Coast is alot easier for a newbie? You just stay at one of the popular hotels and walk out to Pedro Clisante or the beach and you're pretty much set. I do agree that S. Domingo isn't necessarily difficult, but it does take a bit more planning/effort. Sosua is like "mongering for dummies."
[QUOTE=Jooks; 1512016]From Reports of Distincition.
I grit my teeth whenever I see stuff like this but I have bitten my tongue in the past for fear of starting a brouhaha. This is a myth that has been perpetuated over and over by a few people. IMO, it is a myth. I get along just fine with basic Spanish. While fluency in the language would definitely be helpful, it doesn't deter me from doing very much. A long time member lives in SD and barely speaks any Spanish. He's not only a pro with the wimmin, but he has no problem with day to day living including and amazingly (to me) the publicos and metro. Wingman? I never saw that term used until I came here and I thought it was someone who helped find good chicken places. I go vegetarian in the DR.[/QUOTE]