Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3025784]Dude, its the weirdest thing. All the top sex tourism destinations attract bucket loads of young American girls. Don't ask me why they want to go there though, I couldn't tell you. I remember seeing a hot group of girls in Cartagena and approaching them only to realize as I got closer they were sadly American. Punta Cana, same thing, but black American women. Older women too. Jaco beach, yeah same thing, loads of American chicks.[/QUOTE]The answer is cruise ships. Use [URL]vacationstogo.com[/URL] and select "All ports or places to visit" at the bottom of the list.

For example: there are 27 cruises that depart somewhere around the world in Oct 2025 that stop in Cartagena and 126 cruises departing in November 2025 that stop at some time in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3025949]It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3025966]I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.[/QUOTE]Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3026107]Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.[/QUOTE]Not a good look for me at work if people know that I know all the sex tourist locations LOL.

[QUOTE=Stl24;2988863]Just curious, where did you pull a chica from at that time of day? Just curious because I am going to be looking around that time as well. Wasn't sure if the ladies were out Parque Lleras yet.[/QUOTE]I'm currently here and I've seen some as early as 4 pm at parque lleras, maybe 10-15 of them.

I am yet to try Centro for a quickie.

Can some kind soul please recommend one or two clean ST hotels near Veracruz church and also let me know the approx cost of room and girl for media hora? Muchas Gracius.

Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.

Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:

Not displaying expensive belongings in public.

Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.

Being aware of your surroundings.

However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.

[URL]https://two.travel/medellin-colombia-safe[/URL]

In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.

Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026166]Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists....
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Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).[/QUOTE]A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3025949]It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.[/QUOTE]In Sosua it's mostly Canadian women, I've seen and know quite a few.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3025918]All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.[/QUOTE]Go to Comuna 13 and there are hundreds of tourists there every day. If you haven't been it's a great way to spend the day.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]And it's probably more dangerous for guys that share our hobby than your typical tourist.

That said, if you take the normal precautions (often discussed on this site), you'll likely be fine.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
[/QUOTE]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?

I only look for women in brothels or as we say "casas" so I'm not worried about the drinks with drugs added.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3025918]All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.[/QUOTE]If mongers weren't the bold trailblazers of destinations that get negative propaganda, those tourists you mention would likely be too afraid to even go Colombia to begin with. Mongers are the ones who made some of these places popular to travel to. And if they move their focus elsewhere, so will the attention of everyone else, due to exposure and hype via vlogs.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]Like yourself I arrived in 2010 and have seen the changes for the worse. My only savings grace is that I am not on the hunt for P4P given I am now 15 years older and probably most importantly is that I have a stable of young, fresh, non-pros who need some help from time to time and my selection is honed into vetting only the simply incredible lovers that after a few years have earned my trst, again it takes years.

Half are single mothers and the other half just normal Paisa chicas enjoying some spending money so they can spend on things like their Colombian boyfriends.

Trust no one and don't get a Paisa GF, trust me on this. You have no idea how deceptive two-faced they are UNTIL you have been "the backdoor man", "the "other man", you have no idea.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:

1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.

2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).

In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]How did a non-pro scope you? So you are not paying and dating her for 3rd time and she scoped you?

That is expected though.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026166]Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.

One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.

Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:

Not displaying expensive belongings in public.

Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.

Being aware of your surroundings.

However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.


In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.

Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026291]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?[/QUOTE]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.

I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.

"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:

Other benzos.

Alcohol.

Opioids.

Barbiturates.

The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".

Stay safe out there!

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026291]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?[/QUOTE]There was? I was in Medellin four times in 2023 (same as '22 and 24' I did buy many a loaf of bread (I recommend AlePan Panadera Alemana) and wandered all over, I never stared down any barrels. Sure, some idiots playing with their iPhone on a corner had someone snatch it I'm sure, and I do know of one guy who was robbed while walking late at night in a dark street from Provenza in '23. But nothing as a 'serious problem' as you describe. Personally, I am more concerned late at night in Baltimore, Miami or San Juan than I am in Medellin. Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'. Don't be a target and you will be fine. Personally, I think crime is a little lower now because of a lower number of 'extremely desperate' homeless Venezuelan, at least I'm running into a lot less desperates begging at every corner like I was encountering in 22/23.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3026566]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.

I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.

"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:

Other benzos.

Alcohol.

Opioids.

Barbiturates.

The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".

Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]The drug being used is Clonazepam NOT scopolamine. Scopolamine was used years ago but hardly ever used anymore, Clonazepam is easier to obtain as it is available in any farmacia.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3026576]There was? Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'.[/QUOTE]Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.

[URL]https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery[/URL]

Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.

This is the part that really scares me. If I get jacked for a laptop, phone or some cash it's not the end of the world because any of that is easily replaced. God forbid someone slips me a mickey that is badly mixed or triggers an allergic reaction because you don't necessarily know if you can recover from that. It could be the end, as we've seen from time to time.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3026566]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.

Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.[/QUOTE]

I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).

Thanks

If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?

[QUOTE=ObjJay;3026830]I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3026857]If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3026830]I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026616]Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.

[URL]https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery[/URL]

Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.

I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026981]Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.

I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.[/QUOTE]Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.

Being sarcastic.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3026962]Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.[/QUOTE]

I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom!

You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027209]I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3027376]You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.[/QUOTE]I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027430]I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.[/QUOTE]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?

I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3027486]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?[/QUOTE]I was targeted.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks![/QUOTE]First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks![/QUOTE]No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies[/QUOTE]Yeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel?[/QUOTE]If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US…However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! ![/QUOTE]

I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027566]No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.[/QUOTE]Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, ..... My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.

Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).

Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.

Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.

First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027584]If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.[/QUOTE]Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.

I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.

You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.

I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.

I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.

On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:

1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off [URL]seeking.com[/URL] The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.

2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.

II. Other considerations.

1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.

2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.

3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.

III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.

Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.

Best FKK Clubs:

I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.

II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.

III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.

Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027650]Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.[/QUOTE]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.

Those videos are a good reason to stay the fuck away from Parque Lleras if your personal circumstances could cause you to have to explain your appearance in the background. There are less responsible youtubers who say any crazy shit to get clicks. By crazy shit I mean describing the place as a public version of Epstein island and all sorts of other outlandish stuff.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3027486]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027706]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.[/QUOTE]This may be the place you have in mind.

A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.

Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.

However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.

I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.

The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027706]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.[/QUOTE]Not sure which you are thinking of but...

La Isla has an after hours club next door.

Fase II has an after hours club next door.

Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.

Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3027802]Not sure which you are thinking of but...

La Isla has an after hours club next door.

Fase II has an after hours club next door.

Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.

Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.[/QUOTE]El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027838]El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.[/QUOTE]I no doubt just arrived way too early for an after-hours joint to be open. I checked. The address I listed for El Faisan is only one block from San Diego Show Night Club.

Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.

[QUOTE=Lofter;3025608]I land on a Wednesday morning from the southeastern coast of the states. Was a 3. 5 hour flight and immigration wasn't that bad of a wait either. Checked into my Airbnb around noon and spent some time filling up the fridge with goods from a local grocery store, this really warmed me up to the steep hills of Poblado.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027910]Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.[/QUOTE]It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3027939]It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about Medellin.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027974]I'm talking about Medellin.[/QUOTE]Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027910]Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!

Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.

Taco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the acknowledgment, there weren't many reports for I when doing research as well.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3027978]Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Well if you looked at the report I quoted, you would see it referenced a report from MDE. The only one in 3 weeks?

Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.

Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!

So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.

I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.

Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer.

I spotted a little brown thing, not wearing a bra and clearly having some beautiful titties. As I walked up to say Hello, I could tell she was a bit older. We chatted for a bit and I asked her how much money she wanted and she said 50,000 pesos. ($12.50) for a half hour. Which was fine, but then we talked a little bit more and I asked her if she gives blowjobs without a condom and then she immediately went into making that an additional charge. And then she made a comment saying that if I behave well, she will behave well. Which was such a turn off. I could tell that she was going to be difficult so I wished her a good night and moved on. She also looked much older than the 22 she said.

I went maybe 20 yards further and I spotted this cutie sitting with her friends at a little table and I wasn't sure if she was working, but she had that beautiful fluffy Brazilian hair and a slender waist. She was wearing a bikini top that was showing off her little sport boobs and I knew I had to give it a try if I could get her attention. She eventually turned my way and I fingered her to come over and she did. And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. We chatted it up for a bit. I asked her what she was looking for and she said 60,000 pesos for an hour. ($15.50).

I asked her if she knew a good motel and she mentioned one nearby, that I knew of, but I pretended that I didn't. So we walked up to the Zona Rosa motel and they charge 17,000 pesos for an hour. ($4). And that includes a condom. Room was fine. Bed looked clean but I always lay down my towel.

We get into the room and we are just talking up a storm. She's telling me that she's been in Laureles this evening and then she went to Poblado and now she's down her in el centero. So she does her rounds. It took her a while to get her comfortable with me, but she eventually did and she was making amazing eye contact. She's a taurus and I joked around and asked her if she gets emotional and cries a lot, and she admitted that she does and asked how I knew that. I told her I'm really into astrology.

I also asked if she had a boyfriend and she finally admitted that she does and that she's been together with him for three years.

Anyway, she did not hesitate getting naked and her titties were earth shattering fantastic. She was quite hesitant on doing the bareback blow job and I told her to just relax and I was going to take good care of her. After going back-and-forth a little bit, she finally went with it and she sucked my dick for the longest time. I had to tell her it was time to move on.

I could also tell she was a little bit congested and I asked her if she had a cold. She said no I'm doing Tussie. That's the synthetic pink cocaine. Anyways, I could tell her energy was that much better because of it. Haha.

Eventually, I knew I had to have her on top of me because we were only going to be together for an hour and I was hoping to get two nuts out of her.

So I tell her to get on top of me and straddle me but no sex and she does exactly that and her pussy is soft and wet and she is just sliding my rock hard dick against her. And of course she starts gently moaning which is just turning me on even more. I explode all over myself with that camel sliding. Just glorious.

We cleaned up with my baby wipes and I put down 150,000 pesos ($37) to make her comfortable with our time so far. She thought I was ready to go and I told her we have an hour and she took off her bikini top and took another bump of Tussi. She even offered me some. How kind.

For the next 20 minutes we just chatted and then I asked her if she was ready for round two and I just stood up and she was on the edge of the bed and she just started sucking me off until I got hard again. I did some more camel sliding, but I could tell that she was a little hesitant on me sliding it in so I told her I wanted her to lay down on her back and she was ready to go. I slid it in and we went at it for quite a while. I could feel my nut coming on and I wanted to get another good one so a little bit may have slipped inside, but I pulled out and got the rest on her stomach.

Overall, a great girl. Super nice with good energy and a great smile and perfect teeth. Not a whole lot of tattoos. I think about three big ones and a few crappy small ones. She told me she had her first tattoo when she was 13. I insisted that she doesn't get any more tattoos or bigger tits that she wanted.

I also Insisted on taking a few photos of her and told her she needed to visit me at my apartment. We exchanged numbers and I gave her some extra money. I think she'the be a lot of fun to see again. I think she likes bondage as well.

Great start to the trip!

Taco.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.

Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!

So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.

I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.

Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer..[/QUOTE]Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.
Great start to the trip!

Taco.[/QUOTE]Nice report Bro! Now this is what we want to see when we check in this forum every time a new report.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. [/QUOTE]Fantastic report. That's how you make a connection that later becomes a regular. Good deal!

I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.

[QUOTE=Nottymrme;3028107]Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028185]I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.[/QUOTE]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028226]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.[/QUOTE]You can tell the age difference between 18 and just under 18? Some 20 year old in centro have been living in centro for more than 5 years but that is not exclusive to working girls in centro.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028209]Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?[/QUOTE]Best time to be down there is 4-8 pm, in my opinion. Of course things pick up toward the end of the month with bills due and Christmas time brings out a lot of girls that normally don't work down there.

The area is actually a lot better than it was a year ago. The bars near the plaza have expanded with tables in the courtyard now. Perfect for a beer and checking out the girls. Even saw some other melanine deprived gringos there after dark haha.

Taco.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028226]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.[/QUOTE]The giveaways for me, besides the clothes and looks, are minors work in pairs, suck on lollipops, and can't carry a conversation. There's also one motel on 53 where they mostly hangout. So I dodge that place.

Spanish helps a lot, fellas.

Taco.

I've been to all of the spas in Rio Sur mall. This one has always been the best for a solid massage and a menu of extras.

I reached out and my favorite chica doesn't work there anymore but I moved forward and chose Marcela via WhatsApp. (Didn't ask for pictures).

Garage has a nice massage room but Marcela was about a 6 in looks. Shame as Luisa, my old favorite, was about an 8. Massage, as expected was VERY good and she took the whole hour. HJ was nice and she popped out her nice tits. She was pushing for a body to body massage but I declined. Not attracted.

Prices went up since 2024. Massage is now 160 k and Marcela expected 120 k more for her "work". Pricey but I can't live in el Centro every day haha.

They have a good shower to use after. Always take your stuff with you.

When leaving, I got a glimpse of the other therapist. Also not attractive.

Might just be a good spot for a legit massage.

Taco.

The swing bar at the Haven hotel, do girls hang out there to be picked up?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027008]Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/24/tabitha-bundrick-accused-of-murdering-3-manhattan-men-with-fentanyl-during-10-month-robbery-spree/[/URL]

Hey Guys,

Planning my first trip and I've been RTFF religiously. My spanish is not the best, but I'm probably going to be fine if I just look online for english speaking people off Seeking, use the apps, etc. - however, I'm curious, is there a bad sentiment towards Asian people? Asking out of curiosity and primarily safety, thanks.

Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420]Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]Nobody cares how you look. For English your mileage will vary widely unless it is someone in the tourist industry.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420] are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420]Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]You will find very few chicas in Medellin who speak English. Most of them will be patient with you if you are trying to speak Spanish. They will help you if you can speak a little.

So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.

I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months. The place is starting to look like Las Vegas or Cancun. My Lord. There were a lot of women. And not many guys. I struck up a conversation with a gal from Bello and invited her to dinner (I kinda liked the instant dinner date option). She was good company, but I wasn't interested in pursuing anything after dinner. She quoted 350 k for an hour and 100 K for a nearby hotel room. No thanks.

After ditching her, I made it to a liquor store bar on the opposite side of the park. Opposite of gusto. It's there I met "Irish John". Some of you guys may know him. He's a regular in Poblado and wow, he was a ton of fun to talk to. He was telling me that he met his 26 year old girlfriend in Santa Fe mall when he was in line at frisby chicken. He simply gave her his business card and she messaged him not long after. She is stunning. He is doing very well for 67 years old. They've been together for three years. He jokes around and tells people that she's too old for him. Haha.

We talked about a lot of things, but one of his other interesting stories was how he did get scoped a few years back. It was also a chica that he met in the mall and they had been on five dates together. She eventually came over to his house and scoped his coffee. She took a lot of his valuables, but he was able to track his laptops down with the help of some off duty police officers. He knows he was lucky that he wasn't killed by the drug. But he has a very high tolerance.

After that, I took another stroll through the Park. At least 4-1 women at midnight and definitely more slender women than on bumble and tinder. Careful with the minors. They are also in the Parque Lleras mix and the police don't seem to care that they are there. I thought the police use to check cedulas upon entering that area but that's not the case anymore and with it being redesigned a lot of girls arrive packed into cabs. Looked like a clown car with how many 304's would come out of one small yellow taxi.

Taco.

A couple of years ago a neighbor in my building who teaches French invited me to be a guest gringo at his language school. I was really surprised how little knowledge of English some of the Colombian English instructors had. When I naively asked my host why they don't have any native English speakers teaching English, he asked me if I would be willing to do it for 2 million pesos per month. It all made sense after that.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3028501]Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028634]
Taco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for updates, I'm excited to be there in few days.

QQ, where can we get kinky fantasies fulfilled? Nothing too crazy like BDSM but stuff I am assuming a regular lleras girl wouldn't do necessarily.

Are there any casas or clubs for these. Stuff like DT, AR, facial etc.

Greetings all,

On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.

This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?

This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]Greetings all,

I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.

I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Butch145;3028655]I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.

I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Ok, great, I was mostly concerned about the money, but any ATM will do, just to get engough to get into a Taxi.

I've been looking at buying a colombian SIM card on eBay, they're not expensive and I would get cell phone service right of the plane, however I've been looking at youtube videos that show how to activate the SIM cards in Colombia and all of them show that you have to input a cedula number. Is that the new norm? How does someone who's not from Colombia get a local cell phone number now?

Thanks for answering.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027584]Yeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.

If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.[/QUOTE]Damn, I just came for some help. I've been reading but posts are all over the place. Thanks for your lack of help. It's a damn shame because I'm helped dozens, probably hundreds of guys who needed assistance in my town (Vegas). Didn't just say f you, go read. BTW, my "blonde" comment was just commenting on the diversity of looks with Colombian women.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3027774]This may be the place you have in mind.

A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.

Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.

However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.

I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.

The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.[/QUOTE]Thank you bro, if you are ever visit Vegas, let me know.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3027676]Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?

How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3027564]First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.[/QUOTE]That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?[/QUOTE]There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3028691]That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.[/QUOTE]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3028896]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.[/QUOTE]I dictate my post all the time and I use the word Colombia when I dictate Android constantly spells it Columbia. In fact I am dictating now and saying the word Colombia and you can see how it comes out. I know how to spell the word Colombia the country correctly but sometimes it's a hassle to correct the spellings of Colombia especially for a website like this. Guys constantly misspelled words or make grammatical errors all the time. Misspelling Colombia is not a big deal. I'm going to finish dictating this post without correcting the spelling of Colombia so you can see how it turns out when I say the word Columbia and use dictation. I mean I could go back and correct all the spellings but it's such a hassle and everyone knows what I'm referring to. This is not a term paper. This is a mongering website.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028698]There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.[/QUOTE]Ok great! Thank you for the information!

[QUOTE=Dac007;3028688]Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.[/QUOTE]I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.
(...) If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?[/QUOTE]1) Never use exchange boots in airports, unless it's an emergency option, or you want to use only cash to not leave traces of your visit to Colombia with family in your bank statement. The best way to get cash abroad is via ATM, because even including fees and the mark up on the exchange rate you will save a lot of money. Two tips:

A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COP (the limit at Servibanca is normally 720k, while 600k or even 300k at other banks). You will need all that cash if you come to play.

B) NEVER select the option to use the conversion rate suggested by the ATM at first: it's a robbery. Choose to withdraw COP leaving to VISA/Mastercard whatever to make the conversion.

2) If your phone is newer than, say, 2021, it should allow you to install an eSIM. It will change your life when travelling. Yes, it is a bit more expensive than a physical SIM bought on place, but its ease of using is priceless. You install it before flying, and if you did everything right you will be online as soon as you turn your phone on after landing.
If you don't want or cannot use an eSIM, then buy it on site. The problem is that in Bogota there are stores that sell you a SIM also after midnight, but based on what I remember there are no such stores open at night in the Medellin airport. You will have to wait the next day. Go to a store in a mall.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028634]So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.
I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months.[/QUOTE]Only 18 months? When did that happen?
I went back there after COVID one year ago, and I was shocked by seeing the change after my last visit before 2020.
One of the most upscale areas in Medellin, with good restaurants, bars, nightlife, and of course girls but high tier, transformed in a puteria crowded by the same type of girls that walk around the Centro, who mass migrate there at night, but changing the price from 50 k to 500 k because of the location. Gosh. I ran away.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028978]1)A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COP[/QUOTE]Davivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]Greetings all,

On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.

This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:

If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?

This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.

How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can use an ATM at the airport. Tell your bank before hand that you are travelling so your card does not get blocked. You can also buy pesos at your bank before you leave the exchange rate will not be great.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028976]Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.[/QUOTE]To be fair, Columbia is simply the English version of Colombia. I mean nobody goes around ranting to English speakers that it is Cristobal Colon, not Christopher Columbus. Likewise, there are no souvenirs in airports in Brazil saying It is BRASIL, not Brazil.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028987]Davivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.[/QUOTE]Chapeau! I surrender.

I only note that I would never like to receive 10k, 20k, even 50k when I withdraw 2 millions... :-)
I try to get only 100k.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028995]
I try to get only 100k.[/QUOTE]It depends. I got 100 mil bills in 3 of the last 5 withdraws I made at Davivienda. 1 withdraw only allow 800 and I got all 20 mil bill. One I got all 50 mil bills.

The problem I have with Servibanca machines is that they are not reliable. Probably more than half the times that I was not able to withdraw money from the same ATM that had worked before.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028976]I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.[/QUOTE]It was, as I was not typing, I was using my phone to dictate the message, don't have the time to use the phone keyboard to type. Spell check is on but it's not smart enough to understand I'm referring to Columbia, not Colombia. I guess I should apologize to all of the good people of Columbia!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3028896]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned to the other guy that had a fit over the misspelling, I was dictating via my phone, as I do with all messages, posts and texts. AI is not yet advanced enough to read my mind and understand that I'm referring to Colombia, not Columbia.

[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3027677]I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.

You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.

I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.

I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.

On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:

1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off [URL]seeking.com[/URL] The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.

2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.

II. Other considerations.

1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.

2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.

3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.

III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.

Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.

Best FKK Clubs:

I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.

II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.

III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this is very helpful!

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3027599]I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica is our backup. My buddy has been there.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027664]I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.

Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).

Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.

Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.

First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Costa Rica is our backup plan, my buddy has been there before. As for the blonde comments, I'm just going by why I see on camsites, IG and X. I see a lot of Colombian women with blonde hair. Maybe they are in a certain region or perhaps bleaching hair has become more popular recently.

I would like to apologize to all of those who got their panties in a bunch over my posts which used the word Columbia. I'm typing this on my PC, instead of what I normally do which is using the phone to dictate messages, posts, texts, etc. You know like just about everybody does. I live in the US so naturally it's going to use Columbia, not Colombia when dictating.

I came here simply seeking information, not to argue over something as insignificant as the misspelling of a foreign country. A "Hey it's Colombia, not Columbia, here's some info" message would have been cool.

I just started using the Intl site last year, have been on the US site for about 20 years. There, at least in my area, we remembered when we were green and helped new users find information, did encourage them to research but did not rudely turn them away and provided them some info.

I expected the information to much easier to get here since it's a foreign country for most and things are totally different when it comes to mongering, the US is pretty much the same everywhere with a few variations by region. And since their laws are different, I though info would be free flowing.

Oh well, I guess I'll search other resources online.

Thanks to those who were willing to share info, it is truly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028262]Best time to be down there is 4-8 pm, in my opinion. Of course things pick up toward the end of the month with bills due and Christmas time brings out a lot of girls that normally don't work down there.

The area is actually a lot better than it was a year ago. The bars near the plaza have expanded with tables in the courtyard now. Perfect for a beer and checking out the girls. Even saw some other melanine deprived gringos there after dark haha..[/QUOTE]Some unattractive gringos are sitting on a bench for an entire day!

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]

We cleaned up with my baby wipes and I put down 150,000 pesos ($37) to make her comfortable with our time so far. She thought I was ready to go and I told her we have an hour and she took off her bikini top and took another bump of Tussi. She even offered me some. How kind.

Taco.[/QUOTE]So you paid her almost 2. 5 X more than what she asked for? Not bashing, just trying to understand why. Is it because the standard is one hour and 1 nut? I know some working girls are like, if you bust in 5 minutes, they are getting dressed to leave. So, did you pay more because you wanted a 2nd nut within the hour time period?

[QUOTE=WawaRider;3028639]Thanks for updates, I'm excited to be there in few days.

QQ, where can we get kinky fantasies fulfilled? Nothing too crazy like BDSM but stuff I am assuming a regular lleras girl wouldn't do necessarily.

Are there any casas or clubs for these. Stuff like DT, AR, facial etc.[/QUOTE]Any intel or info on kinky stuff?

DM me if possible.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia?[/QUOTE]For Latinas without a doubt, Scandallo Lounge in Sao Paulo, Brazil is the GOAT. Huge LU, ultimate luxury atmosphere, girls are not naked but wear sexy cocktail party dresses. Here you can find blue eyed girls and some loiras aka blondes as well.

As far as the FKK system goes, FKK Sharks in Darmstadt Germany is the best and you should go there at least once in your lifetime, but no Latinas majority are Romanian girls, nothing blonde hair, blue eyes barbie looks, but you can find some bleached blondes and some blue eyed brunettes. The other 2 FKKs, Globe in Zurich is a nice club, smaller than Sharks, smaller LU but worth a visit because the management ensures the girls give good "service". Wellcum is not worth it, hassle to reach in the middle of nowhere and girls are rude and service is not good.

I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.

But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.

Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.

Any help would be appreciated.

This is my first retirement gift to myself.

Ok other than EAFIT.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029093]For Latinas without a doubt, Scandallo Lounge in Sao Paulo, Brazil is the GOAT. Huge LU, ultimate luxury atmosphere, girls are not naked but wear sexy cocktail party dresses. Here you can find blue eyed girls and some loiras aka blondes as well.

As far as the FKK system goes, FKK Sharks in Darmstadt Germany is the best and you should go there at least once in your lifetime, but no Latinas majority are Romanian girls, nothing blonde hair, blue eyes barbie looks, but you can find some bleached blondes and some blue eyed brunettes. The other 2 FKKs, Globe in Zurich is a nice club, smaller than Sharks, smaller LU but worth a visit because the management ensures the girls give good "service". Wellcum is not worth it, hassle to reach in the middle of nowhere and girls are rude and service is not good.[/QUOTE]Second Scandello, it is a pretty amazing experience.

Bummed to hear about Wellcum. Was on the list for this year. That being said, I've had a great time at almost every FKK I've been to (weird one in Dresden wasn't my fav, but have had worse experiences).

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;3029020]Some unattractive gringos are sitting on a bench for an entire day![/QUOTE]You're spot on! But I'm starting to see some younger gringos chilling down there as well. It's not as "scary" as everyone makes it out to be.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3029039]So you paid her almost 2. 5 X more than what she asked for? Not bashing, just trying to understand why. Is it because the standard is one hour and 1 nut? I know some working girls are like, if you bust in 5 minutes, they are getting dressed to leave. So, did you pay more because you wanted a 2nd nut within the hour time period?[/QUOTE]I paid her well because her service was way beyond what was expected. Multiple rounds, positions, BB everything, and it helped relax her. And yes, she was going to do the one nut and roll out routine.

I just returned from a quick run to MDE. My intention was to spend some time with my regular Venezuelan, but she only came thru one night. Having said that, with additional time on my hands. LOL, I made some rounds in Parque Lleras area. It was quite busy, especially after midnight, but as usual I decided to make a few laps before making any rushed choices. Yes there were many flavors, sizes, shapes, and solicitations but I am giving a special shut out to the slim chicas. Both I had on separate nights were exceptional, and everything was granted, of course giving some extra (350 p total).

Just like any of the hundred matches that come through my tinder gold account every day, Maria didn't stand out very much. She's 19, No kids, but has very nice pictures. She did not have many tattoos and she had a healthy looking culo. She also just finished a nursing school course.

We chatted for a while and we realized that we're staying very close to each other. Maybe 10 minutes away. She told me that she was looking for mutual benefits, but she was totally OK with meeting first to make sure that we have a natural connection. That's how I do things. Too many chicks use old pictures or are horrible in person or are phone junkies.

Anyways, we tried to make plans a few times, but it just never developed and she disappeared on Sunday, and I gave her hell about that. She said she was out with her family.

She popped up again today and I told her I'll be free around 2 o'clock and to message me. So she messaged right at 2 o'clock and I decided to have her come meet me at a little bar near my apartment. She doesn't drink, but she arrived soon after in a taxi she arranged that was cheaper than uber.

We talked for a while and I realized she's an Aries. And I joke around all the time that Aries don't have any heart. But just have a lump of ice inside of them. She got a laugh about that.

Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.

Anyways, I was hesitant on what I was going to do with her. Part of me just wanted to send her home, but I asked her if she had any massage experience and she said she does, so I told her I'the like a nice massage with her being naked and we headed back to my place. I had locked everything up ahead of time. And upon arrival, I locked up my phone.

Once she got naked, I could see her body was very nice. A really flat stomach, beautiful curves, and a freshly shaved pussy. She has the most sincere and honest eyes.

She got to work on the massage and did a pretty decent job. On the flipside, she finished up everything, and then insisted that she wash her hands. After that, she got back in bed with me and with a little nudge, started giving me a hand job. I was curious to see if she was just going to take things to the next level and she did. She went right to a blow job without asking. Her blow job skills were a seven out of 10. Nothing to write home to mom about. After that, we switched positions and I was dining at the why. Very tasty. But as most Aries women are, she showed zero emotion. Zero moaning. Just a blank stare as she watched. But she did say that she was enjoying it.

After that, I was doing some camel sliding on her. And she enjoyed that a lot. We kissed, but her kissing was horrible. Like kissing a corpse. Aries sign number 8. So the camel sliding was getting pretty intense and I was certain she was about to ask for a condom, but she instead asked for some lubricant. So off I went to get the lubricant and you know where that leads. The funny thing is that when I returned to the room, she still had her legs spread wide open. I joked and said I liked the view. Haha. Sex with her was actually very good. She was super tight and I had to take a number of mini breaks because I knew I was going to explode. After a good sex round, I did explode all over her stomach. I cleaned her up and she just laid in bed naked, super relaxed. We talked a lot more.

Eventually, we went for round number two because I had to see her ass from behind. But she couldn't handle it too much. She said it hurt. So we called it a day.

We showered separately. I gave her the 300 K that she requested, even though I told her that was a bit too much.

Now do I believe any of her story from before. I believe that she's not very experienced in bed and that she doesn't have data outside the house. Besides that, it's anyone's guess.

I then sent her on the way in an Uber and maybe I'll see her again. I think she'the be even better with a few drinks. She said she's never drank sweet wine before so we talked about doing that.

The end.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029253]Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.[/QUOTE]If a guy tells you how many women he has had sex with you can remove a "0" at the end. For a girl, add a "0" at the end. She wanted you to be her Sav-a-Ho. Looks like you helped her.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029253]
Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.
[/QUOTE]PSA: Claro & Tigo turn off your internet service after one month of non-payment, and cancel it after 2 months.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3029107]I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.

But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.

Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.

Any help would be appreciated.

This is my first retirement gift to myself.

Ok other than EAFIT.[/QUOTE]I did something like that as a post retirement thing. I found that 4 days a week with 4 to 6 hours per day in classes as long as those classes were not all heavy ones (some were more conversation, interaction through games, etc). 5 days a week was exhausting, 4 about right as there were 3 day weekends to sort of recover. And the most I could do at one go was about 5 weeks. So I did a total of around 25 weeks doing about 8 to 10 weeks a year. I think it would be ok doing it on a more continual basis, say for 6 months, but it uses a lot of energy in the brain and can literally tire you out. So some pacing is good.

As far as universities in Medellin the only one I know about is EAFIT. I didn't do my Spanish in Colombia, but in a non-university language school. Although they did offer options to get credit at many universities as they had university educated instructors. I would prefer some of those over university based as the class groups were much smaller (max 5 or 6 per instructor) and there were more activities included. Unfortunately many of these institutes did not do well through the shut downs and most went to on line versions and have never got back to in person classes.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3029359]PSA: Claro & Tigo turn off your internet service after one month of non-payment, and cancel it after 2 months.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about home internet or cell phone? Of course they turn off your internet if you have not paid it. But your cell phone SIM is definitely is not canceled after 2 months. I have had the same Claro number for years and do not pay on it every 2 months. The last time I topped up was July 1 when I was in Colombia. If I have any problems tomorrow (October 1) when I arrive, then I will report on this post being true.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3029107]I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.

But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.

Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.

Any help would be appreciated.

This is my first retirement gift to myself.

Ok other than EAFIT.[/QUOTE]If you are a true beginner, I would start out with online work, listening to recordings on head phones, etc. Establish a basic vocabulary and phrases that way. Then progress to watching Spanish language TV and listening to radio and music. 4-6 hours a day is too much in any event and I would recommend 2 hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week. A university is not the way to go. Language schools with small interactive groups, then go out and socialize and practice.

Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073] All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed.[/QUOTE]I have rode the Medellin Metro Lines around town and it does not go underground. It is not a subway.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]This comes up all of the time. Don't drink if you are concerned or get a bottled beer!

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard anything about Trump or USA relations in Medellin and I've been back from vacationing in Europe for about a month now. Safety is always a concern, especially if you are out drinking around strangers or people you don't really know.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]So you're basically going December, from my personal experience I avoid going to Colombia in November and December as crimes goes up because of holiday. Airfare will cost more, the same as hotel prices and Airbnb's and chicas will be hustling more for the prices. Colombian celebrates Christmas the whole month of December, some people say it's fun to visit Colombia but be very careful and use your common sense so you don't get got. This is something you have to consider. That's my two cents.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3029640]I plan to go to Medellin later this month and be there five weeks. I'm a little concerned because the Colombian president is wacky. His US visa was revoked. My concern is will he retaliate, and how.[/QUOTE]What does any of that have to do with you visiting Colombia? Do you think Petro is going to go find you and do something to you because of his back and forth with Trump? Petro will be like I got your boy Fun Luvr Trump; now talk that shit!

Mr E! Always bringing the humor and common sense! Love it! Shame I'm missing you in MDE. I'm flying out tomorrow. I'll be in Asia in the spring. Let's catch up again over some food!

Taco.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029724]What does any of that have to do with you visiting Colombia? Do you think Petro is going to go find you and do something to you because of his back and forth with Trump? Petro will be like I got your boy Fun Luvr Trump; now talk that shit![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029747]Mr E! Always bringing the humor and common sense! Love it! Shame I'm missing you in MDE. I'm flying out tomorrow. I'll be in Asia in the spring. Let's catch up again over some food!

Taco.[/QUOTE]I am in Barranquilla now. I will definitely catch you in Asia brother.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029400]Are you talking about home internet or cell phone? Of course they turn off your internet if you have not paid it. But your cell phone SIM is definitely is not canceled after 2 months. I have had the same Claro number for years and do not pay on it every 2 months. The last time I topped up was July 1 when I was in Colombia. If I have any problems tomorrow (October 1) when I arrive, then I will report on this post being true.[/QUOTE]As I was saying, no problem with my Claro internet that has not been active for 3 months. Topped up at the pharmacy. 22,000 pesos got me unlimited calls and 40 GB of data.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]Funny enough, I decided to visit El Poblado today for a change of pace. After having lunch in a Mall, I went walking down Avenida El Poblado and there was a pro-palestine protest in the middle of the street. Maybe 50 people. Some of the signs were in English. Some were anti-American. Basically looked like the type of people you see protesting in the USA. No baddies in the crowd.

A friend also sent me the attached today, which I think is more comedy than anything.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849] I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I assume you have eaten more spicy or acid food than normal or been eating very late at night right before sleeping. First, stop that. Second take anti-acids. I just take baking SODA (not baking powder). Dairy products help counter balance spicy food but just a little but sometimes that is all that is required.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. [/QUOTE]When I left Brazil to Colombia in April nobody said anything about a yellow fever vaccine.

Back in March I took my dad to Africa. He does not have the yellow fever vaccine. The places we called to get one, they were like $500. But the kicker is for some reason there is a shortage so places did not even have it in stock.

Pro Tip: You can buy the yellow fever cards on Amazon 2 for $11. I got a stamp made while I was in Dominican Republic for like $15, but of course you can get one of those made anywhere. Then you are in the house. You can copy the info from my card, just make up a nurse's name where I have blacked it out.

We went to 5 countries in Africa and were never asked for the cards. I have had my card for 17 years. The only time I have been asked for it was in immigration in Australia. We were at the desk and my buddy starts mouthing off to the officer that I just got back from Africa. He was like oh yeah, what country? I told him then he looked at a list on his wall and asked me if I had a yellow fever card. I did not have it with me so he told me to step aside. We were delayed an additional hour because I had to fill out paperwork and they told me to monitor myself for certain symptoms. In immigration you don't say shit unless you are asked shit.

Had the same heartburn thing and cut out all ice cubes. They aren't filtered. Also got to watch the juice with water. No bueno. I only experienced it here as well.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I also just spent the day in Centro and there was some talent. Along with a long list of frightening looking women. I enjoy hanging at the bar on the corner (can't remember what street but there is a metal and a wood bar top). There are about 8 seats all outdoors. I enjoy watching Centro life walk by. And watching the girls. Your heartburn could be caused by Viagra if you are taking it.

Going back to MDE in a few weeks. Will be 3rd time. Just wanted some updates about a few specific things.

How is the massage game at Rio sur mall? Still pricey for extras? I been in touch with my last massage girl and I have a date lined up but always wondering about the flavors and prices of other spots.

Perhaps other spots with legit massages and satisfactory FS / he? Feel free to PM.

How is hooters for football Sunday? Should I go extra early or is it not that popular. I went once for UCL but def want to try at the girls there. Maybe another alternative if it's tooo packed?

Their food isn't that big of a deal but tv setup and ladies are on point.

Is loutron worth it or still transactional.

I def will indulge in lleras it's like Disney world for men but I have 3-4 FB girls that I'm tryna chill with and they seem more down to earth than some of the prev girls I met at lleras who are more transactional with high rates and one pop. Some of these FB girls just wan chill and no prices were given to me. I speak the language so they fck with me.

Thanks to Mr. E for the info about fake Vaccine cards. I never worked in an office before, but I assume you can get stamps made at office depot? Thanks to people that were concerned for my health, heartburn is annoying. I tried anti acids from Brazil and bought some here in Colombia. Neither helped at all. I watched a YT video from Dr. Eric Berg. He said heartburn can be cuased by a lack of acid. I squeezed two limes into a glass of water and the heartburn went away. It came back after I popped a generic Viagra. A member said it could be the viagra. Weird because I never had this problem in the past. I went back to Veracruz again.

I can't stop going. I think there is a big difference between Venezuelan and Colombian girls. I think the zuelans are more dangerous and crazy, but it is worth the risk imo. Also I asked a few for BB, I got quoted 3-4 times the standard price of about 50 k-60 k. Also I see some girls are charging 50 k instead of 60 k so I probably will just go with 50 k now that I know. The service is basic though. Very different than Brazil, I should expect this given the venue. It is very wham bam, but no careless whisper. What must 1984 have been like? The girls in Brazil sucked dick so good sex was extra. But the Veracruz girls suck dick for 20 seconds and ready to lay on their back. You can not get everything I guess. Also the blowjobs suck ass as well as being short. I'm spoiled now. The Brazilian girls would suck for 30 minutes no complaint. But it is way cheaper here. I went to the room with this beautiful light brown afro Colombian girl today. She said 50 k. We get in the room and she tells me she offers sin condon as well. I was so surprised by this because I didn't ask her about that. She said she was from Cartagena. Are the non paisa girls more BB friendly? This has been my experience. She said 150 k for sin condon. To me it kind of makes me feel better knowing they charge so much more for BB. It makes me think that not every Tito Diego and Julio Colombiano is hitting it raw like me. I'm probably delusional. I tend to prefer non paisa girls and Venezuelans now, we will see where this goes. Good pussy though. All the girls I fucked raw I nutted in.

I went back and forth on whether or not I should post this. Which is why my last post lacked details. I know this is controversial, it tends to start arguments more often than snitching or politics. But I thought that someone might want this information and who am I to deny them. After all, someone gave it to me and you. I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069]What must 1984 have been like? The girls in Brazil sucked dick so good sex was extra. But the Veracruz girls suck dick for 20 seconds and ready to lay on their back. You can not get everything I guess. Also the blowjobs suck ass as well as being short. I'm spoiled now. The Brazilian girls would suck for 30 minutes no complaint. But it is way cheaper here. I went to the room with this beautiful light brown afro Colombian girl today. She said 50 k. We get in the room and she tells me she offers sin condon as well. I was so surprised by this because I didn't ask her about that. She said she was from Cartagena. Are the non paisa girls more BB friendly? This has been my experience. She said 150 k for sin condon. To me it kind of makes me feel better knowing they charge so much more for BB. It makes me think that not every Tito Diego and Julio Colombiano is hitting it raw like me. I'm probably delusional. [/QUOTE]150 K for raw sex is less than $40 usd. Not a lot, if that is your thing.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069] I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.[/QUOTE]Los Torres. Cra 53 #49-43. This place is one block north and 2 blocks west from Veracruz. They cook ribs and stuff using a wood grill 2 meters from the sidewalk. They give people a piece to try. Just ask. The hours listed are wrong. Pretty sure they are closed on Sunday and the grilled meat is 11 am - 4 pm most days.

[URL]https://lostorreshornoypar.wixsite.com/lostorres[/URL]

Carbon and Sabor Cra 52 #49-53? (also other locations). Next to Kiskiriski on Google maps. 2 block walk from Veracruz. The grilled meat in the fajitas is great.

Both are nearly at the same location on parallel streets.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069]I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.[/QUOTE]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?

[QUOTE=YounGun3393;3030060]

How is hooters for football Sunday? Should I go extra early or is it not that popular. I went once for UCL but def want to try at the girls there. Maybe another alternative if it's tooo packed?

Their food isn't that big of a deal but tv setup and ladies are on point.
[/QUOTE]My personal opinion of Hooters is that you won't be picking up any staff. There are three options: 1) Chisel away as a regular, little by little, or 2) Go over the top, very direct and generous, and risk every girl working there knowing what you are up to, or 3) Flirt, enjoy the view, and separate your activities. Of course, YMMV, but I've known a lot of Hooters girls over the years, and I've seen some of them hit the jackpot but it's on the level of moving to the States or all of a sudden opening a business and driving around in a new car. It's not posting a photo from Energy Living or some hotel room. I have not been but apparently there is a new spot called Vibe that is towards Manila that might be worth checking out. Not sure when you were last there but Patrick's has remodeled and also Ay Wey is Ay Wey. Oh, there is also a new spot up the hill from Hooters, but I forget the name. It might pop up if you search sports bar or just walk out to the left, make a left at the corner, and it should be right there.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3030144]What kind of food are you looking for / missing?[/QUOTE]Excellent question. To me what Latin America falls short on is vegetables, pretty much one type of bean, and fileted and battered fish is pretty much not a thing.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3030144]My personal opinion of Hooters is that you won't be picking up any staff.[/QUOTE]Why is fucking a waitress so many guys' fantasy? It is just a job. I have fucked women with all types of jobs through the years and I can tell you that people are not their jobs; it is just how they make money to pay their bills.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3030110]Los Torres. Cra 53 #49-43. This place is one block north and 2 blocks west from Veracruz. They cook ribs and stuff using a wood grill 2 meters from the sidewalk. They give people a piece to try. Just ask. The hours listed are wrong. Pretty sure they are closed on Sunday and the grilled meat is 11 am - 4 pm most days.

[URL]https://lostorreshornoypar.wixsite.com/lostorres[/URL]

Carbon and Sabor Cra 52 #49-53? (also other locations). Next to Kiskiriski on Google maps. 2 block walk from Veracruz. The grilled meat in the fajitas is great.

Both are nearly at the same location on parallel streets.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will do a food review.

What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? Also TY to everyone that answered my last question.

What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?

I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. [/QUOTE]In that case, you would want to go to Sweet Georgia Cafe.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?

I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]Great burgers at the burger place in Provenza. 😋

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?

I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]El Centro isn't the best for food, although CC El Camino Real and a few other places in Boston and Buenos Aires are decent. If you get out of El Centro, there are plenty of food options, including vegetables. Something as simple as going to Jumbo for lunch will usually have options like chicken, salmon (maybe even pork chops) and vegetables and even a modest salad bar. You also have places that specialize in salads, vegetables and healthier food options around Meddy. As far as soul food, probably your closest options would be places like Sweet Georgia Cafe and / or Restaurante Jamaiquita but you would need to take a the train or a $3 cab to these places. In general, any Mall will have some decent options, like Premium Plaza, for instance. Outside of El Centro will provide you with your best food options.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?

I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]Not walking distance but try these in Laureles: SkyBox or Aroma's BBQ (rumor is both have all-you-can-eat on Sundays, as of recently) or Sweet Georgia Cafe. If you have a stove, you can contact The Smokin Pit for delivered pre-made / vacuum-sealed goodness that just takes 10 mins to boil, in most cases. 301 425 2532. If you are really committed, try Big Boy Food & Bar in Sabaneta. You will have leftovers to enjoy later or the next day.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? [/QUOTE]It is 2025, not 1975. Just go to the ATM.

The only places to eat that I can recommend in Centro are Pizzeria Centro, Cafe Simone, Lupita, and for breakfast or a light lunch Astor on Junin. Colombian food is pretty bad in general and everything else in Centro is even worse.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030229]El Centro isn't the best for food, although CC El Camino Real and a few other places in Boston and Buenos Aires are decent. If you get out of El Centro, there are plenty of food options, including vegetables. Something as simple as going to Jumbo for lunch will usually have options like chicken, salmon (maybe even pork chops) and vegetables and even a modest salad bar. You also have places that specialize in salads, vegetables and healthier food options around Meddy. As far as soul food, probably your closest options would be places like Sweet Georgia Cafe and / or Restaurante Jamaiquita but you would need to take a the train or a $3 cab to these places. In general, any Mall will have some decent options, like Premium Plaza, for instance. Outside of El Centro will provide you with your best food options.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants.[/QUOTE]Cheap freshly squeezed orange, beet, carrot, and sugar cane juice. From the church walk one street north to Carrera 53. Turn left. One block to Calle 50 and cross it. Left side. Look for sugar cane stalks. Walk half a block further and look across the street and you see the LOS Torres smoked meat place I mentioned before.

Govindas in front of the church, 3rd floor. Small entrance to the stairs. Normally they sell banana, carrot, and I think bran muffins at the entrance. Cheap daily specials plus regular menu. Their meatless burrito somehow the fake meat tastes like sausage. Great to watch the parade of people below.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up?[/QUOTE]The banks in Medellin do not do money exchange. There are exchange places, called cambios, in most shopping centers. Their rates are about 100 COP per dollar less than the rate established by the international clearing houses. Search for Visa and Mastercard foreign exchange rates to see the clearing house rate. You can search for "money exchange in Medellin" and see numerous cambios with links to their website. ATM's will provide the clearing house rates if you decline the bank conversion when withdrawing, but then you need to factor in the fees charged by the ATM bank and the bank which issues the card. I think most ATM banks have a set fee per transaction, so it's advantageous to withdraw the max allowed. Davivienda and Servibank allow 2,000,000 COP per transaction. If you do much international travel, you should try to get a debit card that doesn't have fees and reimburses ATM fees.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3030354]The banks in Medellin do not do money exchange. There are exchange places, called cambios, in most shopping centers. Their rates are about 100 COP per dollar less than the rate established by the international clearing houses. Search for Visa and Mastercard foreign exchange rates to see the clearing house rate. You can search for "money exchange in Medellin" and see numerous cambios with links to their website. ATM's will provide the clearing house rates if you decline the bank conversion when withdrawing, but then you need to factor in the fees charged by the ATM bank and the bank which issues the card. I think most ATM banks have a set fee per transaction, so it's advantageous to withdraw the max allowed. Davivienda and Servibank allow 2,000,000 COP per transaction. If you do much international travel, you should try to get a debit card that doesn't have fees and reimburses ATM fees.[/QUOTE]I've found using ATM instead of cambia can save up to 10%. Yes, I use Davienda & draw 2,000,000 at a time. Also use the Schwab debit card which refunds any ATM fees. Also always decline conversion rate.

Do you know if Govinda still has a spot on La Playa?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3030332]Cheap freshly squeezed orange, beet, carrot, and sugar cane juice. From the church walk one street north to Carrera 53. Turn left. One block to Calle 50 and cross it. Left side. Look for sugar cane stalks. Walk half a block further and look across the street and you see the LOS Torres smoked meat place I mentioned before.

Govindas in front of the church, 3rd floor. Small entrance to the stairs. Normally they sell banana, carrot, and I think bran muffins at the entrance. Cheap daily specials plus regular menu. Their meatless burrito somehow the fake meat tastes like sausage. Great to watch the parade of people below.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030284]The only places to eat that I can recommend in Centro are Pizzeria Centro, Cafe Simone, Lupita, and for breakfast or a light lunch Astor on Junin. Colombian food is pretty bad in general and everything else in Centro is even worse.[/QUOTE]I don't go to El Centro much because it's a slimy shit hole. I used to go sometimes to the gym there or to see concerts or the theater. I. ve been to Astor a few times to eat and also for pastries and coffee. Regarding Colombian food, I prefer the food on the coast and also ajiaco in Bogota, but in general I'm not a fan.

Also, the last 2 times I went to a casa I saw roaches so I can only imagine how many restaurants are in El Centro.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3030370]I've found using ATM instead of cambia can save up to 10%. Yes, I use Davienda & draw 2,000,000 at a time. Also use the Schwab debit card which refunds any ATM fees. Also always decline conversion rate.[/QUOTE]Ally Bank is a good option as well. Split your money across both, and you have a solid backup plan should you lose one of your cards. I once had a card get stuck in the ATM at Exito, and I would have been shit out of luck if I did not have the other account.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030152]Why is fucking a waitress so many guys' fantasy? It is just a job. I have fucked women with all types of jobs through the years and I can tell you that people are not their jobs; it is just how they make money to pay their bills.[/QUOTE]True, LOL! When I was there in May, I met two different girls who worked at a Panderia. But I only knew that because they told me. I also got a bit concerned because I thought they may have both worked at the same place! I also met a chica who worked in a call center. I didn't understand what she was calling it in Spanish, and after asking her to repeat it multiple times, she finally yelled "Call Center!" in English, hahaha.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3029711]So you're basically going December, from my personal experience I avoid going to Colombia in November and December as crimes goes up because of holiday. Airfare will cost more, the same as hotel prices and Airbnb's and chicas will be hustling more for the prices. Colombian celebrates Christmas the whole month of December, some people say it's fun to visit Colombia but be very careful and use your common sense so you don't get got. This is something you have to consider. That's my two cents.[/QUOTE]From my experience, it takes the chicas double the amount of time to arrive at your place during December because the traffic seems worse than any other time of year. That's been my main reason for never going back during that month. I flew out of there a week before Christmas.

Also, if you are there on November 30th going into December 1st, I would make it a plan to stay in for the night, as the place turns into a literal war zone with fireworks and celebratory gunfire all night.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? Also TY to everyone that answered my last question.[/QUOTE]Search "ATM" and you will find hundreds of posts, all saying the same: NEVER CHANGE MONEY, USE ATMs.

How come there is still someone asking this?

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[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3029640]I'm a little concerned because the Colombian president is wacky. While in New York last week for the UN General Assembly meeting, to spoke from the sidewalk to a pro-Palestinian group and said US soldiers should disobey President Trump. He also said he would introduce a UN resolution to create a UN military force larger than the US military. He is a former member of a Marxist guerrilla group. His US visa was revoked. My concern is will he retaliate, and how.[/QUOTE] Petro will be gone after next year, as I think he is constitutionally barred from seeking a consecutive second term. It will be interesting to see if the new president will have better relations with the USA and make transactions between the 2 countries easier.

Costeño food has more seasoning and variety of preparation. Paisa food is not much more than belly buster "bandeja" plate of beans, pork crackling, avocado and arepa. Everything else is fried and the lunch specials include watery soup. It seems like jail food. On the icky subject of roaches, I once saw a dead roach on top of pastry in the display case of the historical Versalles restaurant on Junin. Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants where the staff doesn't sweep the floor during service. It's so disgusting that the sidewalk outside is cleaner than the floor inside.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030387]I don't go to El Centro much because it's a slimy shit hole. I used to go sometimes to the gym there or to see concerts or the theater. I. ve been to Astor a few times to eat and also for pastries and coffee. Regarding Colombian food, I prefer the food on the coast and also ajiaco in Bogota, but in general I'm not a fan.

Also, the last 2 times I went to a casa I saw roaches so I can only imagine how many restaurants are in El Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030411]Costeo food has more seasoning and variety of preparation. Paisa food is not much more than belly buster "bandeja" plate of beans, pork crackling, avocado and arepa. Everything else is fried and the lunch specials include watery soup. It seems like jail food. On the icky subject of roaches, I once saw a dead roach on top of pastry in the display case of the historical Versalles restaurant on Junin. Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants where the staff doesn't sweep the floor during service. It's so disgusting that the sidewalk outside is cleaner than the floor inside.[/QUOTE]For some weird reason I was walking around Centro a couple days ago and wandered into a Tostao at Avenida Maracaibo why Avenida Oriental.

And I was looking at the food in the glass case at my waist and the clerk was standing there, and there was a really massive roach crawling over the food.

And I was in grossed out total shock and I pointed to it and she grabbed a napkin and grabbed it and stuck it in her pocket or something and.

Then asked what I wanted and I was even more shocked and walked out, I lost my appetite for anything to eat for at least 2 days.

I feel so unhealthy when I'm here because everything is so repulsive, even Subway is nasty.

I feel like anorexia is setting in. If I had to live here I most certainly would slowly die of malnutrition.

I am astonished for some posts in this discussion about how good is the food in Colombia and Medellin.

Some people looks at the restaurants in Centro and then concludes that restaurants in Medellin are dirty and food is poor. What do you expect?

Guys, go to higher-class areas, and you will find higher-class restaurants, clean as surgery rooms, and fine food, if you want a chef experience! You cannot compare rooms in the motel in 53 a to Nutibara to Marriott! And they are all in Medellin.

Hi, I'm a Canadian citizen and would like to stay 1 year in Colombia but I don't want to get a visa. Can I pull this of?

Yeah it's crazy sometimes. I make most of my meals at home. I rarely eat at restaurants except in Poblado and Laureles. I was never a good cook but I got a lot better during the pandemic when there was no alternative. There was a Tostao near my building. There was always flies in the food case. The counter girls were too lazy to shoo them or even keep the case door closed so they didn't fly in. It makes me sad that most Colombians don't benefit from international level hygiene unless they live in or near a foreigner heavy neighborhood. If you aren't sure what I'm getting at, you only have to compare the condition of the rolling shopping baskets at the Exito in San Antonio with the any Carulla. Carulla and Exito are part of the same company. The Carulla baskets are cleaned every day. The Exito baskets are as filthy as any sidewalk trash bin. It reminds me of decades ago in the US when hood food shops were not regularly inspected by the Health Department.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030456]For some weird reason I was walking around Centro a couple days ago and wandered into a Tostao at Avenida Maracaibo why Avenida Oriental.

And I was looking at the food in the glass case at my waist and the clerk was standing there, and there was a really massive roach crawling over the food.

And I was in grossed out total shock and I pointed to it and she grabbed a napkin and grabbed it and stuck it in her pocket or something and.

Then asked what I wanted and I was even more shocked and walked out, I lost my appetite for anything to eat for at least 2 days.

I feel so unhealthy when I'm here because everything is so repulsive, even Subway is nasty.

I feel like anorexia is setting in. If I had to live here I most certainly would slowly die of malnutrition.[/QUOTE]

This is probably the 2nd post in what will be a bunch of posts off-topic about food. But in short, food in Medellin is amazing if you bother to do a little research and go to the places that make great food. Google Maps is your friend (look for places 4. 0 or better, with at least 100 reviews or more). You will find amazing food places (some expensive in Poblado and Laureles) and some real lower-cost gems outside those areas. While there is weakness in some areas (asian food for example), pasta, seafood and steaks are amazing if you know where to look. Some recommendations: For amazing homemade pasta that rivals the best you've ever had, try Tirrena Pasta in Manila (bottom of Poblado). For amazing fresh seafood in a themed 'secret' boat interior (really secret, above a small seafood store) go to El Barco de Buena Mar in San Fernando. For a really fancy (this is pricier) date restaurant with a view of Medellin and excellent food, go to RITWAL up in Casaloma above El Tesoro mall area. For an amazing Paisa lunch place, check out Restaurante La gloria de Gloria in Envigado. If you are in Laureles, Parrilla Dejame Q' Te Cuente Medelland off 70 is a great lunch place. The list is almost endless, but these are some good choices to start. Of course if you are craving some American food, then head over to Philly Steaks in Manila.

[QUOTE=Vip6682;3030540]Hi, I'm a Canadian citizen and would like to stay 1 year in Colombia but I don't want to get a visa. Can I pull this of?[/QUOTE]Short answer, no you can not.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3030558]For an amazing Paisa lunch place, check out Restaurante La gloria de Gloria in Envigado. [/QUOTE]It's a chicharron and rib place. Huge portion, limited seating, better go with a friend. Check out Cochibacon if you like chicharron.

I found the higher price places are often overpriced and not as good for the type of dishes when comparing them to Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires. Many serve supermarket wines with a high markup or high corkage fee. I saw a 2 USD bottle wine in Argentina costing more than 30 USD in some restaurants.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030411] Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants [/QUOTE]It's a argentinian restaurant. That is why they are old school, I guess you are referring to the uniform.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3030573] Many serve supermarket wines with a high markup or high corkage fee. I saw a 2 USD bottle wine in Argentina costing more than 30 USD in some restaurants.[/QUOTE]Well, to be fair, that happens almost everywhere in the world, not just in Colombia!

If you come from USA, I noted that steakhouses in Chicago or NY propose some Italian red wines, which I can buy for 10 euro in a supermarket in Italy, for 50-100 USD on the wine list. Then, you understand why usually I drink beer with my steak...

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3030558]This is probably the 2nd post in what will be a bunch of posts off-topic about food. But in short, food in Medellin is amazing if you bother to do a little research and go to the places that make great food.[/QUOTE]GOLDEN post. It will be useful to me. Let me add "Sancho Paisa" on the road to airport, or the always good San Carbon for a steak grilled on charcoal.

I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.

If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.

You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.

All facts.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030599]I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.

If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.

You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.[/QUOTE]

I am referring to the number of years (since 1961) it's been in business.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3030574]It's a argentinian restaurant. That is why they are old school, I guess you are referring to the uniform.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030557]Yeah it's crazy sometimes. I make most of my meals at home. I rarely eat at restaurants except in Poblado and Laureles. I was never a good cook but I got a lot better during the pandemic when there was no alternative. There was a Tostao near my building. There was always flies in the food case. The counter girls were too lazy to shoo them or even keep the case door closed so they didn't fly in. It makes me sad that most Colombians don't benefit from international level hygiene unless they live in or near a foreigner heavy neighborhood. If you aren't sure what I'm getting at, you only have to compare the condition of the rolling shopping baskets at the Exito in San Antonio with the any Carulla. Carulla and Exito are part of the same company. The Carulla baskets are cleaned every day. The Exito baskets are as filthy as any sidewalk trash bin. It reminds me of decades ago in the US when hood food shops were not regularly inspected by the Health Department.[/QUOTE]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.

I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.

I once stayed at an Airbnb in Bogota above a bakery / resto and it was full of roaches like I've never seen in my life, I asked bldg manager how often they spray.

He said we don't bother the bakery is full of them its just a waste of money. I left.

If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else.

I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw.

That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here.

Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?

Only serious replies please.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3030590]Well, to be fair, that happens almost everywhere in the world, not just in Colombia!

If you come from USA, I noted that steakhouses in Chicago or NY propose some Italian red wines, which I can buy for 10 euro in a supermarket in Italy, for 50-100 USD on the wine list. Then, you understand why usually I drink beer with my steak...[/QUOTE]It's a higher end steak house that serves literally the bottom shelf wine.

Serious response. They do have relatively-strict food health regulations, and yearly inspections are the norm. However, just as a food truck or vendor in a Chinatown (NYC) or Little Haiti (Miami) is likely to escape close scrunity and likely to have a roach problem; so is some shady food vendor in El Centro. If I was to judge Miami and NYC by that same standard, I'd write off both cities too. They also have strict regulations on the distribution system, including stricter-than-US regulations on food transport (notice how all food transport vehicles require special labeling so they cannot be dual-used, we don't have that requirement, among other things). Most colombians I know would be disgusted by what you saw and simply move on to another vendor. About the same as US residents in NYC or Miami seeing the same thing. I'll add to that, that when visiting many nicer food establishments I am surprised at the very strict safety clothing (hair nets, masks) required for kitchen workers that are beyond anything we have in the USA. McDonalds in Medellin feels almost like a hospital compared to our mess here. I think you need to take a step back and try a different pair of colored glasses in order to take a fresh look at the food situation. This is a poorer country, so judging by the poorest street food offerings is not really fair to their food culture, their pride, and their food quality.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.... If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else...I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw... That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here... Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]

I am providing my observation with context. Over the years, I only remember seeing one roach during sex in Laureles. The girl stood up on the bed and won't get down to the floor because of the cockroach. It is safe to say I have experienced more robbery attempts than I have seen cockroach. The girl is also afraid of it.

I ate all over the city, including El Centro. I am amazed at the bias. LOL.

My apartment was sprayed a month ago. I went out with a paisa last week. We took a walk in the morning. She said we should shower after then go out to lunch when I said just go directly to lunch without showing.


El Centro in the rain, beer 4.5 - 9 mil, depending where you sit.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030615]I am referring to the number of years (since 1961) it's been in business.[/QUOTE]I thought that makes it old but not old school.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?[/QUOTE]You can search the internet for survival food kits. You'll see a variety of choices. I've never tried any of them.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?
Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]I am serious, although you probably won't take me seriously.

If you apply your same sanity standard to all other contexts as food, I'd suggest you bring to Medellin also some plastic doll, to use as a woman substitute for the few weeks you'll stay in Medellin.

When I travel, I am interested to experience the local architecture and natural parks, as much as trying local food and local women.

Relax: there are very good restaurants in Medellin, all worth to try (I'd say the same about women).

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030599]I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.

If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.

You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.[/QUOTE]I applaude your post! Standing ovation from me. Kudos. So much truth in 3 paragraphs.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.

I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.

I once stayed at an Airbnb in Bogota above a bakery / resto and it was full of roaches like I've never seen in my life, I asked bldg manager how often they spray.

He said we don't bother the bakery is full of them its just a waste of money. I left.

If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else.

I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw.

That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here.

Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?

Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]Colombia actually has strict rules, inspections and enforcement, so does the state of Florida yet dozens of restaurants get shut down daily in Florida. It's a fact that almost every restaurant in the world has roaches regardless of their hygiene. I was in the restaurant supply business at one time and the stories I could tell about some of the high end restaurants in Connecticut.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.[/QUOTE]Yeah well welcome to earth. Just imagine the deer that are shitting on that lettuce when it is out in the field growing. Sounds like you were neither a boy scout or in the military or have been to Asia where they eat bugs for snacks.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3030785]Colombia actually has strict rules, inspections and enforcement[/QUOTE]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.

On an unrelated topic, I've lived in Medellin for about 8 years now and have experienced numerous tremors and have never seen anyone walk around inspecting buildings or asking questions so I'm always interested when someone suggests that there are inspections of things.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030800]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.[/QUOTE]We are going way off topic. But Google "Resolucion 2674 de 2013", issued by the Ministry of Health, and enforced by INVIMA and local health secretariats such as Medellin's Secretaria de Salud. Medellin itself runs a program called "Establecimientos Seguros y Abiertos al Publico" that you can also google.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030800]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.

On an unrelated topic, I've lived in Medellin for about 8 years now and have experienced numerous tremors and have never seen anyone walk around inspecting buildings or asking questions so I'm always interested when someone suggests that there are inspections of things.[/QUOTE]I live here in Colombia too. My "source" is my baby mama. She works in the industry. One day we were at a food court in Manizales having lunch with my daughter and her brother and several restaurants suddenly closed one of which was Frisby and that is what the kids wanted so there was of course some discussion and I asked her what was going on and she said it was inspections by the health dept. ,I forget the official title. She went on to tell me how strict they are.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3030957]I live here in Colombia too. My "source" is my baby mama. She works in the industry. One day we were at a food court in Manizales having lunch with my daughter and her brother and several restaurants suddenly closed one of which was Frisby and that is what the kids wanted so there was of course some discussion and I asked her what was going on and she said it was inspections by the health dept. ,I forget the official title. She went on to tell me how strict they are.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Based on what I've seen in places, the conditions must have been pretty bad or maybe something else behind the scenes. I wonder how they deal with spots in the barrio populares and up in the mountains.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030959]Interesting. Based on what I've seen in places, the conditions must have been pretty bad or maybe something else behind the scenes. I wonder how they deal with spots in the barrio populares and up in the mountains.[/QUOTE]Short answer is they don't. The difference between a wealthy country or state and a poorer one. In a wealthy location (say California), they are able to get near 100% full enforcement. In a place with limited resources like Colombia, they focus first on high-traffic highly-impactful places (malls, tourist centers, business centers, etc.) and then fawn out from there as their resources best allow. Meaning that they are less likely to get to small, farther, lower impacting locations on the desired level of frequency (like a food stall in el Centro). As the government's economic situation improves, then they can hire more resources and improve enforcement. You see the same thing in any other country and even in the states (compare enforcement in Alabama to say Massachusetts). BTW, in Medellin there is a circular green sticker you will see in locations that shows last date of inspection.

Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol

[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol

[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL][/QUOTE]That was funny. Bogota has a lot more normal travelers and Cartagena has a lot more normal tourists. They know all the freaks go to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol[/QUOTE]I have a feeling the bondage equipment is what pushed him over the top, since it creates a perception of potential violence or rape. That combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap), and his inability to have a credible story explaining all he brought or why, just put him over the top. Denying entry is more of a grey area. Likely we in the USA might also deny someone for the same reasons under the same circumstances (I mean pre-Trump, not the current more aggressive environment). If you are bringing a small store of 'whatever', have someone lined up you can message as the recipient and dress like a local. Not a sex tourist.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3031199]combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap)[/QUOTE]Seen dudes go through Medellin and Bogota security with durags on their head and pants sagging so I don't think immigration pays much attention or cares about attire of tourists.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031194]That was funny. Bogota has a lot more normal travelers and Cartagena has a lot more normal tourists. They know all the freaks go to Medellin.[/QUOTE]True Bogota has more of a business clientele and more "normal" tourists. I think the outliers I see are dudes that have been listening to you guys telling people to fly to Bogota and get through immigration faster and then transfer to Medellin LOL.

Cartagena hmmm. A lot of riff riff and crazies go through there too but year, they probably get more normal folks and beach goers. Meddy has a bad rap.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol

[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL][/QUOTE]On my last trip when I was leaving MDE the security guy saw all of the stamps in my Passport and was suspicious. He asked if I had luggage and I said yes. He took a phot of my passport and let me go.

Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3031419]On my last trip when I was leaving MDE the security guy saw all of the stamps in my Passport and was suspicious. He asked if I had luggage and I said yes. He took a phot of my passport and let me go.[/QUOTE]Has happened to people I know at MDE and they went through their checked bag.

There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.

It just isn't sustainable for me to pay $500 for that in the US, especially when I can pay 20% of that for a full-blown service with someone just as attractive in Colombia.

Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.

On another note, I had my first solid experience with seeking. Submissive 19 year old who told me she would do whatever I wanted her to. Pretty good start.

[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? [/QUOTE]Any weather app or a search of the weather will answer your question. I suggest that you do that.

I'm reading this forum and it seems that the mongers are talking about anything but putas. They are talking about healthy foods, immigration issues, and everything under the sune but boom boom. LOL I kinda of figured that guys who are lonely or need to vent about something had their facebook to talk about these things. Oh well, just waiting for a good post about putas.

[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.

It just isn't sustainable for me to pay $500 for that in the US, especially when I can pay 20% of that for a full-blown service with someone just as attractive in Colombia.

Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.[/QUOTE]No! Leave that shit where it is. When in Rome. Don't try importing culture from one place to another. You guys continually shoot yourselves in the foot. They tried to start that bullshit in Sosua too. As soon as chicks see some morons are willing to give them a bunch of money just for dancing, guess what? The fucking goes out of the window or the price for fucking gets jacked way up. If you want a chick dancing on you, then rent her to fuck and have her do it to you in the room before you fuck. Stop adding additional costs and pricing to something (fucking for money) that should be simple.

You could change the pattern. Oh well, just waiting for you to do that.

[QUOTE=Andres901;3031712]I'm reading this forum and it seems that the mongers are talking about anything but putas. They are talking about healthy foods, immigration issues, and everything under the sune but boom boom. LOL I kinda of figured that guys who are lonely or need to vent about something had their facebook to talk about these things. Oh well, just waiting for a good post about putas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3031199]I have a feeling the bondage equipment is what pushed him over the top, since it creates a perception of potential violence or rape. That combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap), and his inability to have a credible story explaining all he brought or why, just put him over the top. Denying entry is more of a grey area. Likely we in the USA might also deny someone for the same reasons under the same circumstances (I mean pre-Trump, not the current more aggressive environment). If you are bringing a small store of 'whatever', have someone lined up you can message as the recipient and dress like a local. Not a sex tourist.[/QUOTE]Funny that the immigration officials take their picture right next to the person they caught, very proud of themselves. I think the Trump regime is going to notice and start doing the same, imagine ICE agents taking selfies with a peasant farmer they just caught.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3031751]Funny that the immigration officials take their picture right next to the person they caught, very proud of themselves.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new. It happens almost all over the world.

[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?[/QUOTE]It's never cold in Medellin. Cool in Bogota, but no different now than any other time of year.

[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?[/QUOTE]Check the weather app. But yes, it's very rainy in October. In Medellin, it's been raining about every day. Sometimes it might be a shower or very light while other days might be heavier. I've balked on taking some weekend trips around the country because I prefer to wait for better weather. People in Colombia are used to rain in October so it doesn't stop parties or hookers from coming out to make money.

It usually starts between 2 and 4 pm and can go until 9 am the next morning.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031806]Check the weather app. But yes, it's very rainy in October. In Medellin, it's been raining about every day. Sometimes it might be a shower or very light while other days might be heavier. I've balked on taking some weekend trips around the country because I prefer to wait for better weather. People in Colombia are used to rain in October so it doesn't stop parties or hookers from coming out to make money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.[/QUOTE]I am so sad for you.

[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.[/QUOTE]They're not and most Latinos are not going to pay money to get teased when they can get sex at a fairly low price. They only exist in the Yew Ess because prostitution is not legal.

Hey guys. Feliz Día de la Raza y de la Hispanidad (or, as the woke Presidente Gustavo Petro has renamed it, "'Día de la Diversidad Étnica y Cultural de la Nación Colombiana" and back in the USA homeland, still known, by the skin of its Italian-American teeth, as Columbus Day. 😊.

Perhaps this day offers an appropriate occasion for us aficionados of the Colombian P4P scene to step back, ponder and celebrate what we find to be most special about the mongering culture here in Latin America in general (and in Antioquia's Paisa Pussy Land in particular).

Speaking for myself I would single out the following special attractions as common among our indigenous putas and semi-pros when compared with the working girls to be found on other continents and climes:

--A certain, sensual, uniquely Latina, vivaciousness of personality in the best of our local chicas of the night;.

--An unselfconscious coquetry; a ready enjoyment of flirtatious banter.

--An uninhibited, readiness and skill in dressing to display one's feminine charms to best (most provocative) advantage;.

--The prevalence of mind-blowing, twerking skills generously displayed both during foreplay (warmup activities) and during the act itself--especially in quatro (doggie) and cowgirl.

--The sensuality of latin dance as it carries over into sex (sessions that begin with my request "Bebé, por favor, baila para mi placer." [Baby, please, dance for my pleasure.]

[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard of Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta before?

Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately. So, I followed the advice on a post here and bought an aged account on [URL]accsmarket.com[/URL] that was registered with a USA IP address.

1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.

2) Can anyone PM me a profile (or a few) to get started with? Would greatly appreciate it as I'm starting from scratch.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032079]Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately. So, I followed the advice on a post here and bought an aged account on [URL]accsmarket.com[/URL] that was registered with a USA IP address.

1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.

2) Can anyone PM me a profile (or a few) to get started with? Would greatly appreciate it as I'm starting from scratch.[/QUOTE]I never had a problem setting up a second account for my Colombia adventures. I did use a different computer to set it up so that the IP address wasn't the same. I definitely would not use my real name or other identifiable information. Remember the ol' adage. "Two people can keep a secret. If one of them is dead!

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032079]Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately.

1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.[/QUOTE]Chicas in Medellin change their Facebook name constantly. They don't get banned. If you use a different email address and a different profile photo, I think you can create a second account. That's what I did.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3032170]Chicas in Medellin change their Facebook name constantly. They don't get banned. If you use a different email address and a different profile photo, I think you can create a second account. That's what I did.[/QUOTE]If not, how could twins have accounts.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3032065]Have you ever heard of Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta before?[/QUOTE]I am American and that is like when chicks ask what time is it in your country now. I get that they do not know geography and that a few countries have more than one time zone though.

So I have been following the reports from dcbornrob on youtube and here as well and it looks like many solo foreigners are having there phones checked once they land in Colombia. Agents are going through their phone and apparently looking for anything that could incriminate the phone owner with human trafficking or under age prostitution. I have a trip booked for the end of the year which is fully refundable. I am having second thoughts due to possibly having my phone run through, who knows who the Colombian government could due to your phone once it is unlocked. I know I am being paranoid, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me you could be denied entry even if they find an older text message where you engaged in prostitution and they than ban you from entering due to bad current relations with USA. I heard they are also adding you to a travel list where every time you travel you will go through secondary searches. Or worse they put bogus shit on your phone which falsely incriminates when you try to leave. Again, I am totally aware of how stupid this all sounds, but it is so easy to cancel and pick a different location which doesn't have the "heat" on it at the moment.

So has any one here got info on how likely it is you will have your phone checked upon entering Colombia? If they are picking 1 out of 10 solo tourists, then to me, it wouldn't be worth it. I wouldn't want to be sweating the whole trip that they aren't following all the shit you do on your phone if they pick you. And no, I am not a burner phone guy. If that is the case, I would just pick a different local as well.

Doesn't sound good.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]That is because it is a BS story. If him and "hundreds of others" were refused entry on October 8, then you would have heard about it in more places than the one facebook post. The person mentioned someone coming into the room talking about pics on their phone, but never mentioned anything about them taking their phone or more importantly having them unlock the phone. Of course it would take more than 2 hours for them to get into the phone and also go through it. Especially if phones were taken from any of the "hundreds of others. " Who packs credit cards in their suitcase? Who looks for drugs going into Colombia? You also can not get anyone in a plane in the 15 minutes they claimed they were given.

Don't let AI have you believing this fake stuff.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]The last time I arrived in MDE, there was only one guy at Immigration, trying to handle a planeload of incoming tourists. The line took 3 hours.

It seems hard to believe that MDE Immigration would have the resources to search incoming passengers' baggage or telephones.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Not true. This would be in the news if it was. Hundreds would overwhelm the capacity of airlines to fly back. Typical flights only have a handful of empty unsold seats. An individual was denied and is now trying to blow it up. Ignore and pass.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3032413]Not true. This would be in the news if it was. Hundreds would overwhelm the capacity of airlines to fly back. Typical flights only have a handful of empty unsold seats. An individual was denied and is now trying to blow it up. Ignore and pass.[/QUOTE][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/ciudadano-estadounidense-inadmitido-en-rionegro/[/URL]

Playing victim card.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3032345]

So has any one here got info on how likely it is you will have your phone checked upon entering Colombia? If they are picking 1 out of 10 solo tourists, then to me, it wouldn't be worth it. I wouldn't want to be sweating the whole trip that they aren't following all the shit you do on your phone if they pick you. And no, I am not a burner phone guy. If that is the case, I would just pick a different local as well.[/QUOTE]I posted this news story several days ago which indicates there is heightened scrutiny at MDE. Regarding phones specifically, I've only seen people talking about it on social media but I haven't seen anything specific from the government. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_C_qotp294[/URL].

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Hundreds refused is not true. This is how lies are spread and get people to believe it. I'm sure the name was intentionally cropped out of the picture for a reason.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032427]I posted this news story several days ago which indicates there is heightened scrutiny at MDE. Regarding phones specifically, I've only seen people talking about it on social media but I haven't seen anything specific from the government. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_C_qotp294[/URL].[/QUOTE]Like I said, I know I am being a bit paranoid. That being said, I cancelled my trip. I don't feel like sweating that bullshit when its easy to just book a different spot. If Colombia was the only option, I would def still risk it, but too many other places to choose Colombia right now.

Sucks, feels like the day of the monger king mega weekend trips to Medellin may be coming to an end. I posted the same question in the Sosua forum, if Medellin dies down, where will the next hot spot be? I think Cuba needs to get with the free world and open up and turn Havana into the next Medellin.

I think for this trip I am going to follow the trail of TomJackin and check out El Salvador. Seems like a safe alternative.

It's not entirely clear whether the passengers who were denied were for associations with CP / SA along with the suspicious luggage or whether some were denied ONLY for suspicious luggage. I don't pack anything crazy, but that pic in the video the other day looked like mostly condoms & lube which doesn't seem outlandish -- I definitely pack a bunch of condoms at the very least and usually lube. (Pic is screenshot from the video, not my luggage).

Decided to head downtown today, as I haven't been down there during the week in several months. Stopped in a couple of casas as well as went around the church. Saw a couple on the street that I would do. When checking out the casas, saw a really cute girl with a thick body so I decided to pull the trigger. Cost has gone up to 80,000 for a half half hour since my last visit. It was worth it as the girl had a sweet personality and the sex was good as well as an unexpected BBBJ. I didn't take any pics but I did capture a couple while I was getting dressed and she was in the shower. I got a bunch of cards but threw them away. I did find one in my pocket when I got home so I took a pic. No rain today. The weather is pretty nice.

[QUOTE=ElPostino;3032423][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/ciudadano-estadounidense-inadmitido-en-rionegro/[/URL]

Playing victim card.[/QUOTE]Yup. There's probably a bit of truth to the story, but the guy is likely leaving some key facts out.

Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]

In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks.

I then went to the X / Twitter account of Colombian Immigration which confirmed the story. I attached a screenshot from the X account.

Have tourism plans. Pack discretely. Plan for searches of luggage, electronics, etc.

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]

In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. [/QUOTE]I admit, your version is much more comical, but the article says 80 foreigners have been denied entry, not that an 80 year old brought a suitcase full of perversion.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3032522]I admit, your version is much more comical, but the article says 80 foreigners have been denied entry, not that an 80 year old brought a suitcase full of perversion.[/QUOTE]The article talked about a specific individual, as well as mentioning the 80 foreigners denied entry. The specific individual appears to have had previous convictions in the US or elsewhere, and so would have been identified through cooperation with external consultation. Interpol or US authorities.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3032532]The article talked about a specific individual, as well as mentioning the 80 foreigners denied entry. The specific individual appears to have had previous convictions in the US or elsewhere, and so would have been identified through cooperation with external consultation. Interpol or US authorities.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand your point. Did I say something incorrect? Nowhere does it say an 80 year-old man with a dirty mind was denied entry.

Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]

In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks..[/QUOTE]

Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Someone here said to search the reviews for "guest policy" or "security", but that did not work for any of the listings I was looking at. If they list this as their policy, is it not reasonable to assume guests are fine:

[QUOTE]Guest access
-The whole apartment and the communal amenities are available to all guests.

Entry Requirements:
-All guests and visitors must present original ID at reception.
[/QUOTE]Trying to book something last minute so would prefer to avoid contacting all the hosts and waiting for responses. Plus is it not sometimes an "ask for forgiveness not permission" situation when it comes to inviting 2-3 guests in a day and drawing attention?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Why is this no where else or from other people? In any case have not heard anything like this in Bogotá and I have met about 10+ ISG guys in last couple months.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032655]Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Someone here said to search the reviews for "guest policy" or "security", but that did not work for any of the listings I was looking at. If they list this as their policy, is it not reasonable to assume guests are fine:[/QUOTE]If you scroll down, there is a section that says "House Rules. "

2 foreigners alleged to be sex predators. If I had this much sex toys in my suitcase I would be a predator. They should have said they were gay and the toys were to be used on each other!

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032607]Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]I think I speak for many of us hear, could you elaborate on what exactly they searched and how this process works? Would really help out us who plan to travel to Colombia once this shit blows over. Not going to lie, Parque Lleras is a hell of a time and not many places like it outside Colombia.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032655]Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Trying to book something last minute so would prefer to avoid contacting all the hosts and waiting for responses. Plus is it not sometimes an "ask for forgiveness not permission" situation when it comes to inviting 2-3 guests in a day and drawing attention?[/QUOTE]In the Airbnb listings, "guests" refers to the renters (guests of the host). People who visit the apartment are referred to as "visitors". There are two areas in the listing to pay attention to. First is the description on the first page of the listing. Second is under "Things to know", "House rules" at the bottom of the listing. That's the only two places I've seen any restrictions listed. If neither of those places say anything about visitors, chances are very good that visitors are allowed without a problem. When you request to rent, you must agree to a statement from Airbnb which basically says they discourage sex tourism, but it doesn't say it is prohibited.

COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.

I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.

I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem.

The 17,000 peso bus to town runs 24 hours and so easy. Love it.

Stayed at Hotel Soberano around the corner for 50,000 p. Stayed there years before and the room I had was pretty decent. Not this time. Cockroaches everywhere. I stayed there because I was afraid to walk across Botero Park with all my stuff at 9 pm. I saw a girl I did in the past who was staying at the same hotel and we exchanged info. Took shower and went to her room seeing if she wanted to come visit me and she said later. Two days later and no messages.

I checked the price at Hotel Mandala which has rather small dark rooms clean for 92,000 p. They have a breakfast using the resto next door and they have a foosball table in the office area.

I chose to stay at the Big Balcony Hotel near the church. They have had several owners with several names but everyone knows the one. Hotel Mandala had just boughten it 2 years ago and added free coffee and tea. Then they added a cereal breakfast with prices keep going up. I think it was 90,000 p at the time. I return and see I know the receptionist from the hotel nearest the church and the next day see another receptionist from the same hotel so I feel safer thinking less chance of any room theft. Next day I see the owner and he sees me. He remembered me and bumped fists. It took me a minute to remember him. He and his buddies own the hotel nearest the church (they kicked me out when they changed it to a 100% ST hotel), the Big Balcony hotel, and the hotel as you walk down the side of the church to the casino at the corner and turn left and it is the very first hotel. That hotel is a dark mini maze. You know if you have been there.

Hotel Big Balcony is better now for 70,000 p and my room has a refrigerator. FYI if you have a room with no ref and one is available they will move one to your room. They do not turn on the big outside front lights at the top of the building so it is actually dark at night on the top front facing floor. They fixed my window hinge and electrical plug in (grounding hole plugged) that day I mentioned it. I did not want them to think I broke the window hinge. Loud music stopped at 10:00 pm and then 10:30 pm the next night so I expect even later during the weekend. I have stayed 5 weeks in the past but only 2 days this trip and yet to see a cockroach.

Less than 24 hours here and already seen some guy pissing on a tree, one guy blowing snot from his nose, 2 people picking their nose, endless amounts of homeless druggies. I nearly died from the stench from the 3 porta potties under the metro near Hotel Nutribara. Horrible! The place is a complete circus.

First day and took a repeat from 2 years back. No condom. Came on her back. She asked for 90,000 p and I gave it. She has always been a super sweet girl to me even though the price seemed a little high since we have been together 7 times now.

Second day saw a woman at 5:30 am looking for a customer. 2 hours later and 3 hours after that still at the same location waiting. I tried a new girl. Very pretty. Wanted 60,000 p. At the halfway mark of condomless sex she says cuatro (4). 60+40= 100,000 p. Ok. I finish on her back and clean the mess with a paper towel. Less than thrilled when she washed up her snatch using my sink. I give her 100,000 and she says 300,000 ($77). We have a low level argument and I tell her policia we passed on the main floor. I give her a soda and a hug. All is well once she learned I was not a newbie.

Scotia / Colpatria Bank only let me take out 900,000 p. Used it 2 years ago with the same cards and received 1,500,000 p.

Street scene not as good as 2 years prior. It is early but I see less diamonds in the rough (possibly the cold and rain). The policia always checking the girl's IDs even when of age. I assume this has ran some of the girls away. Police everywhere. Both days had police stay in the hallways of my hotel from 2 pm - 8 pm.

My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.

I think this is the intended purpose of the investigation program.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032607]Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]

I can remember being asked the what is the purpose of your visit question and the follow up question of what sort of attractions do you plan to visit as long ago as 2008.

[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]

In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]......My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]You planned on staying 6 months in El Centro? My hat's off to you.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3032713]I think I speak for many of us hear, could you elaborate on what exactly they searched and how this process works? Would really help out us who plan to travel to Colombia once this shit blows over. Not going to lie, Parque Lleras is a hell of a time and not many places like it outside Colombia.[/QUOTE]I was randomly (or not randomly, who the fuck knows?) pulled out of the immigration line with 2 dudes from Brazil and was escorted to the back room. The searched my carry on, then asked me to retrieve my checked bag (I was escorted to the carousel and back to the room), then they asked me to unlock my phone and a few agents went over all of my photos, including hidden folder, WhatsApp messages, social media, etc. Went through my checked bag. After about an hour I was escorted back to the immigration line, straight to the kiosk, gave my passport to the lady at the kiosk, she stamped it and let me in. Also, while in the back room I was asked multiple questions about what I do for living, my purpose of visit, place of stay, etc etc. Obviously they didn't find what they were looking for. I didn't have any lingerie or sex toys in my luggage. Maybe a couple of condoms. I heard them commenting on the photos they found in my hidden folder. I guess they were looking for pics of underage girls which I didn't have because I don't mess with kids. I haven't been to Colombia for over a year now, I want to come back but I don't want to deal with this BS again, and who knows maybe I have something on my record now, like a red flag.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3032720]In the Airbnb listings, "guests" refers to the renters (guests of the host). People who visit the apartment are referred to as "visitors". There are two areas in the listing to pay attention to. First is the description on the first page of the listing. Second is under "Things to know", "House rules" at the bottom of the listing. That's the only two places I've seen any restrictions listed. If neither of those places say anything about visitors, chances are very good that visitors are allowed without a problem. When you request to rent, you must agree to a statement from Airbnb which basically says they discourage sex tourism, but it doesn't say it is prohibited.[/QUOTE]One of the places that I stay has the "No sex tourism" stuff but when I got their I got a wink and a nod from security after I gave him some money.

Concerning Immigration at MDE, my next trip, I will enter Colombia via Bogotá, not because of possible searches at MDE, but because MDE Immigration has multi-hour lines. Last time I went, there was only one person working Immigration at MDE.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3032847]I was randomly (or not randomly, who the fuck knows?) pulled out of the immigration line with 2 dudes from Brazil and was escorted to the back room. The searched my carry on, then asked me to retrieve my checked bag (I was escorted to the carousel and back to the room), then they asked me to unlock my phone and a few agents went over all of my photos, including hidden folder, WhatsApp messages, social media, etc. Went through my checked bag. After about an hour I was escorted back to the immigration line, straight to the kiosk, gave my passport to the lady at the kiosk, she stamped it and let me in. Also, while in the back room I was asked multiple questions about what I do for living, my purpose of visit, place of stay, etc etc. Obviously they didn't find what they were looking for. I didn't have any lingerie or sex toys in my luggage. Maybe a couple of condoms. I heard them commenting on the photos they found in my hidden folder. I guess they were looking for pics of underage girls which I didn't have because I don't mess with kids. I haven't been to Colombia for over a year now, I want to come back but I don't want to deal with this BS again, and who knows maybe I have something on my record now, like a red flag.[/QUOTE]Exactly the same type of stuff for me as well. They asked if I had Viagra, condoms etc and painstakingly went through all the Whatsapp groups etc. May be this is just pay back to whatever shit we are doing (as in US). Couple of suggestions. Don't fly directly from US. Coming from Panama may be better and don't have your US passport hanging out in the open. Last. Just clean your phone / use burner and reset as you go inside. Needless to say. Unpleasant shit that I don't want to deal with ever.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;2998439]Great input, thank you!

I am meeting up with one girl from Tinder tonight, waiting for her to arrive at my hotel (Hotel Ofix) in Laureles. Will write up how it goes.[/QUOTE]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:

I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.

She was chubbier than she looked on her Tinder photos, but at least she was the same chica in the photos and attractive enough to me. She seemed a bit nervous or shy when we got up to my room, so I sat with her on the bed and we talked a bit. She asked if I had any alcohol to drink or weed to smoke, but I just had water and coca-cola. I also had made it a point to myself to not have drinks with a pro I didn't know well, for safety reasons, after all the bad stories about getting scoped that I've read on here.

After a few minutes she warmed up and we started kissing and undressing and getting down to it. She let me suck on her big tits, gave me BBBJ, and then sex. After I cummed, we lay there and talked for a few more minutes. Then she got up and started getting dressed.

I asked her where she was going, since I had paid for 2 hours with her and wanted to go again when I was ready. This was just over half an hour since she arrived. She told me that I had already finished, and that this was just for "1 polvo" - if I wanted more, I'd have to pay her extra.

This was my mistake, not asking her about the number of "polvos" or "relajaciones" included when we were setting up the meet. I have just become so accustomed to the chicas I've been with in Bogota and Cartagena usually being down for 2 or unlimited pops during the time we have together, that I just didn't think to ask about this. Lesson learned.

She said if I had something to drink or smoke she could chill for a while, but since there was nothing, she was just going to go. I was pissed, but there was nothing I could do about it, so I paid her. She also asked for extra for taxi fare, which wasn't something we had agreed to before. I refused but she kept insisting, and I didn't want to keep arguing with her in my room, so I gave her money for the taxi and then sent her on her way and deleted her number.

The sex wasn't bad, she was cute and curvy, but her attitude in person was colder than what I look for, and I felt like I got scammed on the money.

She was one of many chicas I talked to on Tinder before and during my few days in Medellin. I matched with a lot of chicas on there, significantly more than in Bogota, so Tinder seems to be very active in this city. About half the chicas on there seem to be pros, and the other half non-pros (compared to maybe 1 out of 5 being pros on Tinder in Bogota.) There were many non-pros I matched with who were beautiful and who I had good rapport with during our chats and who I'd love to date. But that requires a lot of time to put in to get laid, and I only had a few days for this trip, so I decided to only meet up with pros in order to make the sex quick and easy to obtain.

I got their quotes on Whatsapp, most of them quoting 400 k or more, some a little less, with various degrees of service offered (including some fine with multiple pops, and others trying to get me into threesomes with one of their friends). Some of the chicas, if I didn't reply to them after they quoted me prices, would message me again telling me they'd give me a discount if I was free right then. One chica, absolutely stunning, was offering toda-la-noche for $200 US. Didn't sound like a bad deal for a high-class escort type experience of dinner and dancing and sex all night until morning, or whatever combination of that I wanted. I didn't end up seeing her, but maybe I'll hit her up if I'm ever back in Medellin.

To sum up, my experience is that there are tons of attractive women in Medellin available on Tinder, but it can be VERY time-consuming. A lot of these chicas won't reply for days or more between messages. And it can take quite a bit of back and forth with these messages to set up a meet, especially if you're looking for non-pros or aren't sure if the chica is a pro or not. This was similar to my experiences in Brazil and Peru as well, with women being very slow to respond on Tinder and time-consuming to set up actual meets. I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies. So I guess Tinder (and DominicanCupid and ColombianCupid) activity varies between different countries / cities. But in Medellin, if you're someone looking to be more efficient with your time and put in less effort, then street-walkers in Parque Lleras and El Centro, or casas / strip-club chicas, are probably a better bet for you.

Like I said before, I only had a short time in Medellin for this trip, so this first disappointing experience didn't encourage me to immediately set up other meets off Tinder (although I might try again if I go back.) So instead, the next day I tried out El Centro, and ended up having an awesome time with a Venezuelan street-walker at one of the motels down there. So good, that I had her come over to my hotel the following day so we could have another go at each other. I'll post a report about that experience too (eventually.).

Anyway, I hope you guys find at least some of this info useful. I still feel kind of new at this, even though I started mongering almost 2 years ago (after my divorce). Feels like I keep making rookie mistakes, but still having a great time getting laid with sexy and sometimes fun and affectionate pros, in between the great dating experiences I've been having with non-pros. Stay safe out there and have fun!

That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.

Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:

I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.


I got their quotes on Whatsapp, most of them quoting 400 k or more, some a little less, with various degrees of service offered (including some fine with multiple pops, and others trying to get me into threesomes with one of their friends). Some of the chicas, if I didn't reply to them after they quoted me prices, would message me again telling me they'd give me a discount if I was free right then. One chica, absolutely stunning, was offering toda-la-noche for $200 US. Didn't sound like a bad deal for a high-class escort type experience of dinner and dancing and sex all night until morning, or whatever combination of that I wanted. I didn't end up seeing her, but maybe I'll hit her up if I'm ever back in Medellin.


[/QUOTE]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.

It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.

Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".

[QUOTE=Combo;3033033]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.

It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.

Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".[/QUOTE]It drives me nuts to hear people talk about "service" on Tinder. If they are truly non-working girls why would want that type of experience. Anyone who says that want an amount of money for an hour probably is worth seeing.

It's probably not a good idea to spend an entire night with someone you've never met.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032945]Exactly the same type of stuff for me as well. They asked if I had Viagra, condoms etc and painstakingly went through all the Whatsapp groups etc. May be this is just pay back to whatever shit we are doing (as in US). Couple of suggestions. Don't fly directly from US. Coming from Panama may be better and don't have your US passport hanging out in the open. Last. Just clean your phone / use burner and reset as you go inside. Needless to say. Unpleasant shit that I don't want to deal with ever.[/QUOTE]The tension between the US and Colombia is very high right now. The highest it has ever been. Trump attacked a Colombian vessel and called the Colombian president a drug leader. Its going to get worse for US tourists, especially single males.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]She was one of many chicas I talked to on Tinder before and during my few days in Medellin. I matched with a lot of chicas on there, significantly more than in Bogota, so Tinder seems to be very active in this city.[/QUOTE]Of course it is more active because there are more scammers. People in Bogota have real jobs and do not have the time to be sitting around on Tinder waiting for someone to scam. Smart thing that you were not down for the drinks. Her M / O may have been to get you off your square that way. Seems after you threw a monkey wrench into her plans, it did not take long for the real her to come out. Were you there to party or to fuck? Seems to me your mission was accomplished and hers was twarted, though 240 K plus taxi money is a very good take for her.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3033002]That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.

Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.[/QUOTE]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies.[/QUOTE]Well Dominican Republic is an island. And in island life they don't have shit to do and ain't going anywhere. That is why there is volume and speed. Beware of when you arrive though. The volume and speed gets lower and the excuses get higher. They will need money to go to the salon before they come see you.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies.[/QUOTE]Well Dominican Republic is an island. And ias island life goes, they don't have shit to do and ain't going anywhere. That is why there is volume and speed. Beware of when you arrive though. The volume and speed gets lower and the excuses get higher. They will need money to go to the salon before they come see you or start talking about some kind of medical procedure that they need. If a broad there is telling you anything besides where and what time to meet up, then it is a scam.

[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]Maybe grok does not understand that border laws are not the same as everyday citizen in the public laws, same as USA.

[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]Anybody that has spent any time in Latin America knows that laws are only suggestions in a lot of cases. Besides, what are you going to do if the Immigration agent tells you to hand over your phone, quote him the law, that is laughable, or tell him no and go back home? No, you're going to hand him your phone like every other person that thinks that they don't have to hand over their phone.

[QUOTE=Combo;3033033]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.

It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.

Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. And I agree with you about the benefit of a shorter initial encounter. Thank you for the tip about the amanecida!

You could have left the Viagra at home too. It is available here at any pharmacy at very competitive prices.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3033002]That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.

Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.

I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.

I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem..[/QUOTE]Great report and very nice information, can you please exactly tell the name of "Big Balcony Hotel" , I normally stay at hotel nutribara but every time I visit their prices are going up and level of service is going to trash.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]
Like I said before, I only had a short time in Medellin for this trip, so this first disappointing experience didn't encourage me to immediately set up other meets off Tinder (although I might try again if I go back.) So instead, the next day I tried out El Centro, and ended up having an awesome time with a Venezuelan street-walker at one of the motels down there. So good, that I had her come over to my hotel the following day so we could have another go at each other. I'll post a report about that experience too (eventually).
[/QUOTE]On the second day of my Medellin mongering back in April, I decided to check out El Centro in the afternoon, since I had read some positive reports about it here. The area is packed with the big museum, various churches and statues, busy vibrant markets, and other things to sight-see, so it might be worth it to visit just for that if you're interested. I also read about how dangerous / crime-infested it's supposed to be, so I made sure I had my eyes open and spidey-sense up while I was walking around there.

I had the Uber drop me off in front of the museum (was around 4 pm or 5 pm) and walked around for a while, towards the direction of all the motels, which I had checked on Google Maps beforehand, and had seen in some walk-through videos on Youtube. There were definitely a lot of working chicas all over the area, including in front of the museum / churches. Many of them looked like sketchy crack hose. And there were some others that looked cleaner, but older and / or overweight. But there were a few I saw who looked attractive to me.

After doing a walk around a couple of blocks checking out the talent, I came back the way I came and spotted one of these attractive ones I saw earlier still standing around between a motel and a bus stop. She turned out to be Venezuelan, in her late 30's, curvy body (including some recently-added fake tiddies), big pretty smile, long blonde ponytail. I started chatting her up with an "hola" and "como te llamas", followed by "how much for some time with you" in spanish. She was very friendly and confident, straight-forward talker with good energy right off the bat. For price she offered me 30 minutes for 100 k. I asked her about longer, she said we could do 1 hour for 200 k and that I could pop twice with her.

I agreed and she took me to a motel where the staff knew her well, but it looked like a dump to me. I told her I'd rather go to another motel nearby that I had read (on here) was recommended. She agreed and followed me, although asked me a couple of times how close it was, she seemed a little nervous about going someplace with a guy she had just met. I told her "just around the corner" (which it was) and when we found it, she recognized it and was fine with it. Inside it also turned out to be a dump, LOL, but a little bit nicer and cleaner looking than the previous place. I paid for the room for an hour, and they gave me the key and some condoms (that's a nice touch).

Once inside the room, we chit-chatted a bit while she used the bathroom to wash up, then got down to kissing and the action. She looked and fucked like a slutty porn-star. Very fun chica. While she was blowing me, she would take my cock out of her mouth and smack it against her face and lips, and kept calling it "sabroso. " We did it in multiple positions and went at it for two rounds. Each time I blew my load she happily told me in spanish "you're hired!" as I was coming back down to Earth.

We talked some more between rounds and afterwards about each other's lives. After the second round we took showers to clean up. She kept telling me that I should be watching my things more closely, since you can never tell who will rob you. And that I shouldn't keep turning my back on her because "girls around here will slit your throat. ".

Her service was excellent, and I liked the chemistry we had together, so I got her number and then went on my way and she went back to the street. After that I stopped at the Sports Bar at the San Peter to check it out for dinner, since I saw it mentioned here a few times. The chicken wings are indeed excellent. There were two chicas hanging out there who looked like they were probably pros, although they weren't pretty enough for my tastes to make me want to chat them up. There was a bartender working there who was very hot, but she didn't seem flirty at all.

Later that night, I messaged that Venezuelan El Centro chica, to set up a meet at my hotel the next morning. I offered her 200 k for 1 hour, just like we did earlier that day. She told me she usually charges 300 k for hotel visits, but for me she would do it for 250 k (and taxi fare). I agreed and we wished each other a good night. In the morning, she messaged me early that she was getting ready for me and sent me a photo of herself in a tight white outfit with short skirt and boots, asking me if this was good enough for her to wear with me. I told her that she looked great in it and to come on over. I met her downstairs outside the hotel to pay her taxi driver, and then we went up to my room. Another two rounds of great BJ and enthusiastic sexo, and again she told me "you're hired!" after each time she made me cum, LOL.

We also engaged in more fun talk about each other's lives, side hustles, family situations, etc. She was a very down to earth, mature, and fun woman, and she told me "you know, you're really cool. " After we wrapped up, I escorted her downstairs to the taxi waiting for her, and we both told each other we hoped we'll see each other again. Then I walked in search of a late breakfast, feeling happy and satisfied. I flew out of Medellin that evening, but I'll definitely message her for more meetups if I ever go back.

Hope you all found this interesting and / or useful. Stay safe and have fun!

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3033139]I met her downstairs outside the hotel to pay her taxi driver, and then we went up to my room. Another two rounds of great BJ and enthusiastic sexo, and again she told me "you're hired!" after each time she made me cum, LOL.

Hope you all found this interesting and / or useful. Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]Congrats! I've fucked well over 100 chicas in Medellin and never gotten "hired". Never heard that one before. Anyone else been "hired" (contractado)? But I have only very rarely done a chica de Venezuela. Maybe that's a saying from over there? Thanks for sharing all the details. Enjoyed reading of your experience.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3033151]Congrats! I've fucked well over 100 chicas in Medellin and never gotten "hired". Never heard that one before. Anyone else been "hired" (contractado)? But I have only very rarely done a chica de Venezuela. Maybe that's a saying from over there? Thanks for sharing all the details. Enjoyed reading of your experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and glad you enjoyed the story, haha. (Made myself horny going through the memories and writing about it).

I have been with quite a few Venezuelans in Colombia, maybe 1 out of 3 chicas I have sessioned with turn out to be Venes. I don't specifically seek them out, but I do like curvier women, and in my experience the average Vene I've met tend to be curvier (and / or taller) than the average Colombiana, so that might have something to do with my ratio. But I've also never heard "contractado" from any other chica, so that might just be her own shtick.

I still have a lot of reports to write for Bogota (I've already posted a few in the past) and Cartagena. And I'm hoping I'll have several satisfying and memorable hookups during my upcoming trip to Santo Domingo DR to write about, too.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:

I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.........................[/QUOTE]Nice report overall. Like many have said already be careful with Tinder, or avoid entire in mde if you can. With every crime and drugging that's reported against tourists in mde there are likely 5 not reported. Likely. Also the going rate is 50 k in el centro for 30 mins, so you paid double the going rate LOL. She spotted you as a newb a mile away, even in your words here we can tell you were new to the scene. All good, that area is cheap anyway so paying double aint shit. It's about that time for my Annual trip but hesitating w so much happening. I might go to BOG first then smooth sail to Mde.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033175]Nice report overall. Like many have said already be careful with Tinder, or avoid entire in mde if you can. With every crime and drugging that's reported against tourists in mde there are likely 5 not reported. Likely. Also the going rate is 50 k in el centro for 30 mins, so you paid double the going rate LOL. She spotted you as a newb a mile away, even in your words here we can tell you were new to the scene. All good, that area is cheap anyway so paying double aint shit. It's about that time for my Annual trip but hesitating w so much happening. I might go to BOG first then smooth sail to Mde.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's possible that she saw me as fresh meat. I remember reading on here before that 50 k for 30 minutes was the usual rate in El Centro, so I was a bit surprised when she quoted me double that price. I figured maybe my info had been outdated and the prices had gone up considerably. Or maybe it was because she didn't look like a skinny dirty crack hoe like many of the others did. Most of the ones working around there definitely didn't look like the instagram-ish Parque Lleras chicas, that's for sure. She stood out to me in looks, and her service and personality were well worth the money in the end.

Regarding what's going on between the US and Colombia right now, I'd say bide your time and see how things go. Everything flip-flops so much with our wannabe king. So within a few weeks or months, the situation could be much smoother, or much worse.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3033181]Yeah, it's possible that she saw me as fresh meat. I remember reading on here before that 50 k for 30 minutes was the usual rate in El Centro, so I was a bit surprised when she quoted me double that price. I figured maybe my info had been outdated and the prices had gone up considerably. Or maybe it was because she didn't look like a skinny dirty crack hoe like many of the others did. Most of the ones working around there definitely didn't look like the instagram-ish Parque Lleras chicas, that's for sure. She stood out to me in looks, and her service and personality were well worth the money in the end.

Regarding what's going on between the US and Colombia right now, I'd say bide your time and see how things go. Everything flip-flops so much with our wannabe king. So within a few weeks or months, the situation could be much smoother, or much worse.[/QUOTE]You're right man, if you're already there then cool, otherwise it might not be too smart. Braz is just as good so Imma make my way there instead for a while and just watch first how things develop. Glad you had a good exp. Seriously I miss my centro chicas like a crackhead on forced therapy, some still write LOL. Just know that many of them dress up better and go post in Parque Lleras at night. Not all, but a good chunk of them. If you hang in mde enough you'll know who they are, looking for 400 k victims. They'll smile at you knowing you won't pay that since you already fuckd them for 50 k or 30 k. The going rate is still the same.

I am getting a little worried about all the immigration problems being reported when you arrive to Medellin, my trip is next Tuesday, what countermeasures do you think I should take??

Arriving in Bogota definitely a better strategy if you can do it. A male arriving in MDE is assumed to be traveling for pussy and they are trying to stop that. In Bogota, you're less likely to get that same treatment. And the immigration lines moves way waster.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3032843]You planned on staying 6 months in El Centro? My hat's off to you.[/QUOTE]I normally stay in Laureles for 7 days to visit the online girls and the brothels. Then spend 1-2 weeks in another city. The amount of new girls in Centro is practically nill compared to 2 years ago. Going to Periera for a week to try the street scene there again and visit the hot springs. Fly out of Colombia Oct 29 for a total of 15 days stay. I like to do numbers and in 7 days I have had only 1 new girl. All the others are repeats from 2 years ago. Boring for me. One sexy black girl I had to cancel in my room when she asked for advanced payment. I thought there would be a problem. Hot body and pretty face but her whitish friend had poisoned her mind. That is why I never saw anyone take her. Some guy talked to her for 5 minutes before walking away. Then I tried 5 minutes later and learned why. Pay first is nearly always a horrible experience.

[QUOTE=Ullo200;3033123]Great report and very nice information, can you please exactly tell the name of "Big Balcony Hotel" , I normally stay at hotel nutribara but every time I visit their prices are going up and level of service is going to trash.[/QUOTE]Between the church and the museum. 7 day stay and I did find a small cockroach in my room. Most music noise ends 10:00-10:30. Friday and Saturday night 1 am. 2 years ago it was 1-2:00 am every night. But you have loud druggies yelling in the middle of the night nearly every night for 5 minutes passing by. Mornings are also noisy at times. Try 1-2 nights and change if needed. First girl free and 20,000 after that.

Google maps. Enter this in the search field:

Cra. 52 #51 a-27.

If you are carrying a US passport I am not sure it is a great idea to do Colombia now -given the back and forth between the governments.

Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.

[QUOTE=Combo;3033339]Arriving in Bogota definitely a better strategy if you can do it. A male arriving in MDE is assumed to be traveling for pussy and they are trying to stop that. In Bogota, you're less likely to get that same treatment. And the immigration lines moves way waster.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hobo3;3033433]Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.[/QUOTE]It is frustrating when one posts something with such generalities that nobody can understand what you're trying to say. Were all Americans on the plane detained? Was one American detained? Were all Americans stopped while their phones were searched? Was it just one person? A little more detail, a little more clarity would help and go a long way for people to understand the situation. The only advice that has been posted that seems practical is simply not to have anything on your phone or laptop that could raise a question or suspicion. Applications can be easily deleted and reinstalled afterwards. The information is retained in the cloud, disconnected from the phone.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;3033433]Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.[/QUOTE]I just recently came through Bogota this month and they aren't checking shit. Americans weren't being detained. Phones were not being checked. There is no team looking at online forums.

I arrived yesterday at 5 pm on Copa. There were no other passengers from other flights at immigration. I was first in line in the old folks lane and advanced to the agent almost immediately. He asked two questions, are you on vacation, and in what city. I answered and asked if he needed the address of where I would be staying. He said no, stamped my passport, and I was out before any bags arrived. I had filled out Check-Mig even though there was e banner on their website saying it was undergoing changes.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3033703]I arrived yesterday at 5 pm on Copa. There were no other passengers from other flights at immigration. I was first in line in the old folks lane and advanced to the agent almost immediately. He asked two questions, are you on vacation, and in what city. I answered and asked if he needed the address of where I would be staying. He said no, stamped my passport, and I was out before any bags arrived. [/QUOTE]See. All of the hysteria for nothing. Brother Ram even canceled his trip. Bad Idea to cancel a trip because of internet rumors. Stay off the internet and live your life.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.

I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.

I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem.

The 17,000 peso bus to town runs 24 hours and so easy. Love it.

Stayed at Hotel Soberano around the corner for 50,000 p. Stayed there years before and the room I had was pretty decent. Not this time. Cockroaches everywhere. I stayed there because I was afraid to walk across Botero Park with all my stuff at 9 pm. I saw a girl I did in the past who was staying at the same hotel and we exchanged info. Took shower and went to her room seeing if she wanted to come visit me and she said later. Two days later and no messages.

I checked the price at Hotel Mandala which has rather small dark rooms clean for 92,000 p. They have a breakfast using the resto next door and they have a foosball table in the office area.

I chose to stay at the Big Balcony Hotel near the church. They have had several owners with several names but everyone knows the one. Hotel Mandala had just boughten it 2 years ago and added free coffee and tea. Then they added a cereal breakfast with prices keep going up. I think it was 90,000 p at the time. I return and see I know the receptionist from the hotel nearest the church and the next day see another receptionist from the same hotel so I feel safer thinking less chance of any room theft. Next day I see the owner and he sees me. He remembered me and bumped fists. It took me a minute to remember him. He and his buddies own the hotel nearest the church (they kicked me out when they changed it to a 100% ST hotel), the Big Balcony hotel, and the hotel as you walk down the side of the church to the casino at the corner and turn left and it is the very first hotel. That hotel is a dark mini maze. You know if you have been there.

Hotel Big Balcony is better now for 70,000 p and my room has a refrigerator. FYI if you have a room with no ref and one is available they will move one to your room. They do not turn on the big outside front lights at the top of the building so it is actually dark at night on the top front facing floor. They fixed my window hinge and electrical plug in (grounding hole plugged) that day I mentioned it. I did not want them to think I broke the window hinge. Loud music stopped at 10:00 pm and then 10:30 pm the next night so I expect even later during the weekend. I have stayed 5 weeks in the past but only 2 days this trip and yet to see a cockroach.

Less than 24 hours here and already seen some guy pissing on a tree, one guy blowing snot from his nose, 2 people picking their nose, endless amounts of homeless druggies. I nearly died from the stench from the 3 porta potties under the metro near Hotel Nutribara. Horrible! The place is a complete circus.

First day and took a repeat from 2 years back. No condom. Came on her back. She asked for 90,000 p and I gave it. She has always been a super sweet girl to me even though the price seemed a little high since we have been together 7 times now.

Second day saw a woman at 5:30 am looking for a customer. 2 hours later and 3 hours after that still at the same location waiting. I tried a new girl. Very pretty. Wanted 60,000 p. At the halfway mark of condomless sex she says cuatro (4). 60+40= 100,000 p. Ok. I finish on her back and clean the mess with a paper towel. Less than thrilled when she washed up her snatch using my sink. I give her 100,000 and she says 300,000 ($77). We have a low level argument and I tell her policia we passed on the main floor. I give her a soda and a hug. All is well once she learned I was not a newbie.

Scotia / Colpatria Bank only let me take out 900,000 p. Used it 2 years ago with the same cards and received 1,500,000 p.

Street scene not as good as 2 years prior. It is early but I see less diamonds in the rough (possibly the cold and rain). The policia always checking the girl's IDs even when of age. I assume this has ran some of the girls away. Police everywhere. Both days had police stay in the hallways of my hotel from 2 pm - 8 pm.

My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.

[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Likewise, there are people saying I don't understand why people fuck prostitutes. Disgusting. Yet here we all are on this forum.

[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.

[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]The majority of people worldwide think prostitutes are ugly, disgusting, invested, and all druggies. Most of us know better than that. Yet here you are on this very site. One of the sweetest sexiest girls I have ever been with I found in Centro. I wish I could post her picture. But I won't because I know someone somewhere has taken her home and looking to marry her. Could be one of you. One never knows. I can tell you that if I was in my 20's I would have fallen in love with that girl and I would be wrapped around her finger. Thank the almighty one I was in my later years when I found her.

Now if you are talking about the area (not the girls) then yes I would agree it is not easy. But I try to stay as near as possible to the women I am hunting.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3033756]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.[/QUOTE]I don't think the vast majority of the girls are the same in the Poblado and Centro areas. On my two trips to Medellin, I spent time walking through both areas and even if most of the centro girls changed dresses, they wouldn't look like the girls you usually see in Parque Lleras. Facically the girls in Lleras are much nicer. I would say that even the girls at the casas like Real Life, although they come in all shapes and sizes, facially are still nicer in my observation than most of the girls who hang around centro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3033742]Likewise, there are people saying I don't understand why people fuck prostitutes. Disgusting. Yet here we all are on this forum.[/QUOTE]I love this post. Such a long time I don't send a kudos to you.

Assuming you are not on a watch list, you only need to be able to respond to routine questions without exhibiting signs of fear or evasiveness. By routine questions, I'm referring to "what is the purpose of your visit, how long are you planning to stay, what is the address of where you are staying?" Common follow up questions include "what attractions do you plan to visit, how much cash are you carrying?" You need to be able to respond without obvious signs of confusion or struggle. By now I expect everyone knows it's not a good idea to bring a year's supply of sex toys.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3033323]I am getting a little worried about all the immigration problems being reported when you arrive to Medellin, my trip is next Tuesday, what countermeasures do you think I should take??[/QUOTE]

I can see it now. "But officer, grok says you can't look at my phone."

[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]

I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].

[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034092]I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3033756]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.[/QUOTE]The girls in Centro are mostly Venniess. Ii find them more friendly and down to earth. I know that Colombians in Medellin know about El Centro and look down on the people working there.

I suppose my sense of humor is somewhat warped. The way they presented the situation and edited the video is what made me laugh. The random shot of the cockroach and the scene of the police chasing down and beating up a robber at dusk added funny flavor to their background narrative. They don't take themselves seriously and I appreciate that.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3034118]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.[/QUOTE]

I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).

My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034089]Assuming you are not on a watch list, you only need to be able to respond to routine questions without exhibiting signs of fear or evasiveness. By routine questions, I'm referring to "what is the purpose of your visit, how long are you planning to stay, what is the address of where you are staying?" Common follow up questions include "what attractions do you plan to visit, how much cash are you carrying?" You need to be able to respond without obvious signs of confusion or struggle. By now I expect everyone knows it's not a good idea to bring a year's supply of sex toys.[/QUOTE]Thank's for answering my message. Yes I think I can answer all the usual questions, I just hope they don't take my cell phone, I don't have any pictures of videos to worry about. But I do have hundreds of contacts in my Facebook and Instagram accounts.

I was thinking erasing all my social media apps, and then I started to think that not having any social media apps may be more of a red flag to immigration, anyway, I am freaking out over thinking this sh*t.

Hi everyone,

I'm heading to Medellíand this week for the first time with a group of friends to celebrate a close friend's birthday.

I just realized it's the rainy season, and the forecast shows rain all week — definitely some poor planning on our part!

Does anyone have suggestions for good places to meet besides Laureles Park?

Thanks in advance for the tips!

Good luck with that.

[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).

My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034092]I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].[/QUOTE]That is the second place I stayed in Medellin. I stayed there like 3 times in a row. There were no bugs in it back then though. You could go on the roof and holler at chicks coming off the Metro to meet you at the bottom. The rooms are very small but I never intended to spend all day in the room.

[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).[/QUOTE]Why would you assume that? The more you make, the more you spend, so the more you have to make more. Price has nothing to do with how many dicks they are taking. And it is safe to assume that since people are paying so much, then they all have your mindset and are going to want to go raw.

So you would rather rawdog a $100 chick that has rawdogged 70 other dudes in the past month, than get a $20 chick that has used condoms with 100 dudes in the past month.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;3034209]Thank's for answering my message. Yes I think I can answer all the usual questions, I just hope they don't take my cell phone, I don't have any pictures of videos to worry about. But I do have hundreds of contacts in my Facebook and Instagram accounts.

I was thinking erasing all my social media apps, and then I started to think that not having any social media apps may be more of a red flag to immigration, anyway, I am freaking out over thinking this sh*t.[/QUOTE]You are seriously overthinking this shit. I have been to Colombia well over 100 times in 20 years and once they have pulled me in the back room when I was leaving Medellin to do a body scan.

There are a few tens of thousands of people entering that country everyday. What makes you think they are going to single you out for a 3 hour rooter to tooter inspection? Stay off the internet and live in the real world!

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3034245]I'm heading to Medelland this week for the first time with a group of friends to celebrate a close friend's birthday.

I just realized it's the rainy season, and the forecast shows rain all week definitely some poor planning on our part![/QUOTE]The forecast always shows rain everyday. It may rain for 3 minutes or 0 minutes, same as Florida in the USA.

[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).

My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I flat out wouldn't negotiate barebacking with a women I haven't been with yet. Too many uncontrollable things once you've agree to pay a certain amount.

What is far better is, if you find one that you get along with well, and you know it will be worth its, then broach the subject. And you may not even need to bring it up yourself. It's very common for the chicas to hop on without protection once you've been with them a few times and they are comfortable with you. Which to me is a good reason not to repeat too often.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034263]Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]I think escorts are the least likely to do BBFS. They see guys who are "one offs" why would they put themselves at risk for a few extra pesos. They are also more aware about risks so it would be a hard sell even if you had a test.

I prefer Seeking and Tinder because you can negotiate it. If they say "no" you can move on. The girls who have jobs and need supplemental income are the ones that I find will provide a more gee experience.

Anyone who asks about how much time you want and those types a questions is a "pro" and no-go for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034279]There are a few tens of thousands of people entering that country everyday. What makes you think they are going to single you out for a 3 hour rooter to tooter inspection? Stay off the internet and live in the real world![/QUOTE]I can imagine him sweating, top suspicious character approaching the immigration line, immediately spotted by the experienced eyes of police trained to detect those who have something to hide.

Midnight Express, if you have seen it.

[QUOTE=Medclubber;3034118]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.[/QUOTE]Nostalgy for the old times I went to a REAL shithole in Centro with a young one, in a room for 5000 COP.

Since those old times, I have never spent less than 10000.

[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).

My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I bring it up when I am in bed naked with the chica. I invite chicas over to my hotel or Airbnb & we have a nice relaxing time. A cocktail or 2, listening to music, some time on the balcony chitchatting, then to the couch for making out & slowly getting the clothes off. We adjourn to the bed & after BBBJ & dining at the why I bring it up before it is time to put it in. I tell them I like it & it is easier to leche for me that way & shockingly some will say ok. If they hesitate I will tell them I have had a vasectomy & my sexual health if excellent. If that doesn't work I tell them I will be more generous if we bareback. Some are a flat out no, others will say make me an offer. I will offer another $20 usd or so, if still a no, then we move on. I think if they have spent some time with you, feel comfortable & you have treated them right there is a better chance of a yes. This has worked for me with many chicas in mde & sjo. Good luck!

Hey Fellas!

The last time I was in Colombia was about 10 years ago. Had a great time at the Medellin Mansion a few times. I was recently putting together plans to go again, and lo and behold, it is now gone for good. The building demolished even.

Just wondering if there are any venues in Medellin that have taken its place. I really liked that it was a small, secure, contained hotel with vetted girls in house, and a bar downstairs. Anything else like that in Medellin?

Or anywhere in the world? A long time ago there was a place in the DR that I really like called Oxygen. Same deal, but more upscale and in a tropical setting.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51;3034411]Just wondering if there are any venues in Medellin that have taken its place. I really liked that it was a small, secure, contained hotel with vetted girls in house, and a bar downstairs. Anything else like that in Medellin?

Or anywhere in the world? [/QUOTE]Try Jaco, Costa Rica or Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata.

[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites ... I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on [/QUOTE]How much have you talked to this chica? Because my experience trying to book the best looking chicas online from places like Pasion Prepagos earlier this month was that they would string me along, then at the last minute say, "Sorry, I can't make the appointment anymore, but I do have this friend who is available. " and send a photo of a girl significantly less attractive and older. If I said, how about tomorrow etc, it would be the same thing. It's a pretty classic game of bait and switch. When I gave up on them and booked a chica through mileroticos, she showed up and was of course not the girl in the photos. She wasn't overweight or anything, but not as slim and 5/10 face.

Hope and wish it didn't ruin the trip.

Any backup suggestions?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034281]The forecast always shows rain everyday. It may rain for 3 minutes or 0 minutes, same as Florida in the USA.[/QUOTE]

That's good strategy. I was referring to the aftermath.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3034309]I think escorts are the least likely to do BBFS. They see guys who are "one offs" why would they put themselves at risk for a few extra pesos. They are also more aware about risks so it would be a hard sell even if you had a test.

I prefer Seeking and Tinder because you can negotiate it. If they say "no" you can move on. The girls who have jobs and need supplemental income are the ones that I find will provide a more gee experience.

Anyone who asks about how much time you want and those types a questions is a "pro" and no-go for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3034487]How much have you talked to this chica? Because my experience trying to book the best looking chicas online from places like Pasion Prepagos earlier this month was that they would string me along, then at the last minute say, "Sorry, I can't make the appointment anymore, but I do have this friend who is available. " and send a photo of a girl significantly less attractive and older. If I said, how about tomorrow etc, it would be the same thing. It's a pretty classic game of bait and switch. When I gave up on them and booked a chica through mileroticos, she showed up and was of course not the girl in the photos. She wasn't overweight or anything, but not as slim and 5/10 face.[/QUOTE]You forgot the trick of pictures taken 20 years ago when she started selling her pussy.

Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.

With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.

1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).

2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?

3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.

4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.

Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3034491]Hope and wish it didn't ruin the trip. Any backup suggestions?[/QUOTE]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3034662]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would also recommend bringing some light clothes just in case, and don't be ashamed of wearing shorts when the weather is hot (no matter how much some expats might look down on you as a "gringo tourist".) When I was in Medellin in April the weather was surprisingly hot and humid. The City Of Eternal Spring felt like summer, and I was sweating balls almost as much as in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3034662]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]It can absolutely piss for hours upon hours or days at a time in Medellin. There are several deaths per year directly attributed to the rain. Thankfully, you can always spend a buck or two on a plastic capa which are sold in abundance throughout the city when it is raining. Also, traffic is insane when it rains because most locals are already bad drivers, then mix in poor drainage, bad windshield wipers, and thousands of motorcycles.

That being said, I would change any plans because of the expectation or forecast of rain, as the OP stated, but it can definitely come out of nowhere and change your plans for you.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3034710]It can absolutely piss for hours upon hours or days at a time in Medellin. There are several deaths per year directly attributed to the rain. Thankfully, you can always spend a buck or two on a plastic capa which are sold in abundance throughout the city when it is raining. Also, traffic is insane when it rains because most locals are already bad drivers, then mix in poor drainage, bad windshield wipers, and thousands of motorcycles.

That being said, I would change any plans because of the expectation or forecast of rain, as the OP stated, but it can definitely come out of nowhere and change your plans for you.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I was in MDE in January several years back and it rained hard almost non-stop for four days straight (and January is supposedly less rainy than most months).

If you spend time in MDE, you learn to deal with the rain. Buy an umbrella and have clothes that can work with rain. And have a comfortable place so chicas can come to you.

Okay yes it rains a shit ton in MDE, but the pussys are wet. Don't let the rain scare you away.

[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3034650]Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.

With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.

1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).

2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?

3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.

4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.

Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]IMO, very few women in Costa Rica compare favorably to the women in Medellin, both in appearence and performance.

I stopped going to casas years ago because I didn't find quality.

Plaza Botero is in el Centro. You'll likely find some women in el Centro who compare in appearence to Ticas, but not many. They're on the lower scale of women in Medellin.

Why would you plan to change hotels for a three-day visit? My recomendation is to stay in el Poblado (Parque Lleras is located there).

Forget about finding non-pros. If they will have sex with you the day you meet them, they are not non-pros.

[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3034650]Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.

With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.

1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).

2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?

3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.

4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.

Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]For both of my trips to MDE, I stayed at the former Mansion hotel in Poblado but took the public transit during the daytime to centro. From there I walked to New Life casa where I had decent sessions both times I visited. I did fast walk throughs centro just to gawk as it was more of a cultural experience than a mongering one. Plaza Botero is part of centro where the fat sculptures are. After New Life and a quick bite at a local cafe, I simply took the transit back to Poblado. Do really no need to stay in centro in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3035048]For both of my trips to MDE, I stayed at the former Mansion hotel in Poblado but took the public transit during the daytime to centro. From there I walked to New Life casa where I had decent sessions both times I visited. I did fast walk throughs centro just to gawk as it was more of a cultural experience than a mongering one. Plaza Botero is part of centro where the fat sculptures are. After New Life and a quick bite at a local cafe, I simply took the transit back to Poblado. Do really no need to stay in centro in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Aahhh, the good old days! I was very happy with the talent at the Mansion, particularly during the weekdays. I only strolled to the square or nightclubs on the weekends, when the Mansion wasn't staffed, or to eat. The Ajiaco at Mondongo's! Or at that mall way down the street, where the food court had a super awesome bandeja paisa.

And there was this MILF that gave fantastic massages. I can't remember her name, but you guys know who I am talking about.

How am I supposed to know where the casas are? I'm aware of the "well known" places through looking on here, but what about the rest? Are they easy to spot when walking by? If not then how?

I'm expecting these places will do a line up when I drop in?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035104]How am I supposed to know where the casas are? I'm aware of the "well known" places through looking on here, but what about the rest? Are they easy to spot when walking by? If not then how?

I'm expecting these places will do a line up when I drop in?[/QUOTE]You will not know a place is a casa when walking by. You need an address to find the casas. The addressing scheme is fairly easy once you know the concept. Calle (CL) runs one way and Carrera (Cra) runs perpendicular to it. House numbers start counting from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life address is CL 56 #43-39. It is on Calle 56, #39 from the intersection with Cra 43. Even numbered houses are on one side of the street, odd numbers on the other side.

Most casas will do a line up if enough ladies are there. You will probably have to pay for the lineup or buy a drink.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3035124]You will not know a place is a casa when walking by. You need an address to find the casas. The addressing scheme is fairly easy once you know the concept. Calle (CL) runs one way and Carrera (Cra) runs perpendicular to it. House numbers start counting from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life address is CL 56 #43-39. It is on Calle 56, #39 from the intersection with Cra 43. Even numbered houses are on one side of the street, odd numbers on the other side.

Most casas will do a line up if enough ladies are there. You will probably have to pay for the lineup or buy a drink.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. Paying for a line up seems crazy.

So, is it a case of booking a particular girl in advance from a web advert? I have been assuming that I'd be just dropping in and then choosing a girl from a line up (or one-by-one introductions.) I'm slightly disappointed if that's not how they operate.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3033353]I normally stay in Laureles for 7 days to visit the online girls and the brothels. Then spend 1-2 weeks in another city. The amount of new girls in Centro is practically nill compared to 2 years ago. Going to Periera for a week to try the street scene there again and visit the hot springs. Fly out of Colombia Oct 29 for a total of 15 days stay. I like to do numbers and in 7 days I have had only 1 new girl. All the others are repeats from 2 years ago. Boring for me. One sexy black girl I had to cancel in my room when she asked for advanced payment. I thought there would be a problem. Hot body and pretty face but her whitish friend had poisoned her mind. That is why I never saw anyone take her. Some guy talked to her for 5 minutes before walking away. Then I tried 5 minutes later and learned why. Pay first is nearly always a horrible experience.

Between the church and the museum. 7 day stay and I did find a small cockroach in my room. Most music noise ends 10:00-10:30. Friday and Saturday night 1 am. 2 years ago it was 1-2:00 am every night. But you have loud druggies yelling in the middle of the night nearly every night for 5 minutes passing by. Mornings are also noisy at times. Try 1-2 nights and change if needed. First girl free and 20,000 after that..[/QUOTE]I got it, it Casa Botero, I have tried it in the past, its cheaper but not good as nutribara, also when I left outside someone stole my new cloths from room and they don't take any responsibility for that.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035158]Thank you for the reply. Paying for a line up seems crazy.

So, is it a case of booking a particular girl in advance from a web advert? I have been assuming that I'd be just dropping in and then choosing a girl from a line up (or one-by-one introductions.) I'm slightly disappointed if that's not how they operate.[/QUOTE]Paying for the line up is only there to prevent people who have no intention of going with a chica or spending any money. And it is a very small amount in any case. Not worth worrying about. And the casas generally do not have online picking available. That is for other types of businesses with online escorts. So you would be picking from a line up or from whoever is available.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3035171]Paying for the line up is only there to prevent people who have no intention of going with a chica or spending any money. And it is a very small amount in any case. Not worth worrying about. And the casas generally do not have online picking available. That is for other types of businesses with online escorts. So you would be picking from a line up or from whoever is available.[/QUOTE]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035188]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?[/QUOTE]New Life casa was on Google Maps and the entrance is an iconic blue door next to a cafe. I believe all better known casas can be found this way.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035188]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?[/QUOTE]Under the ISG Forum for Colombia you can find at least 3 other threads or blogs with maps and lists for casas and strip clubs in Medellin. Look especially for posts by World Travel 69. Any newcomer is also well advised to peruse the Reports of Distinction thread.

It's been a solid few months in Antioquia this year. I've covered the whole oriente small towns, backroads, the works. A lot's shifted since pre-pandemic, but the core game's still recognizable.

When I first rolled in, Fase II was 190 mil, independents 150 mil standard. GFE was the default; half the time money never came up until the end, and 150 was fine. Travel companions were a text awaydomestic trip for the price of two quick sessions.

I stay out of Lleras now. Word is the girls there shark harder than ever.

Veracruz and the Laureles / Beland casas still deliver. Plenty of cute floaters passing through, easy to swap contacts. The best-looking Colombianas I've met this year all came from those spots. Catch is, they vanish fast.

The top 5 cutest of this trip were not expensive dates. I just got lucky.

Curiosity pushed me onto a romance app. Breaks my rule: stick to the agenda, stay safe.

Some sharp 30-somethings will play for a glamping weekend, no cash exchanged.

Younger and cute? They're waiting for the offer. Took ten out for coffee or ice creameight of them were eager to hear my cash proposals. The others never "charged," but Rappi orders and Guatap overnights added up quick.

The girlfriend act is bait. They want a guy who believes the broke-college-girl sob story. That's how setups happendrugged, rolled, gone.

*Warning: walking out of a short-stay motel, a cop flagged me down, made me unlock my phone, scrolled my gallery for ten seconds, shook my hand, and waved me off. No words, no hassle, just a reminder who's watching.

2 weeks after my return to the USA. My 12th trip to Colombia in 5 years. I was there for 1 month.

It began in Bogota. Including sessions with LaCelestina, LasIncredibles and other girls I found on-line. Over 2 weeks I also visited Lido (quite often) , Loutron, Mora Mora and others in Zona T (Hooters) . I had to cancel on 3 of them (my favorites from previous visits) because I ran out of time. I highly recommend anyone that wants quality to save your money, get their phone numbers and wait to do the deed outside their clubs. I know everyone wants info on $. So If you are picky. PPM costs $75 usd / hour with a #9 or #10 working as an escort. At the clubs they will ask for insane prices. If you have personality you can find real gems if you take them to dinner and then bed. Maybe $100 Quickies. Are cheap in Santa Fe. Not cheap at Lido. $200 usd + I will admit I focused on one amazing dancer (professional 18 years old) I got her number and bought her a ticket to fly to Medellin. Circumstances changed. She danced for me 2 nights nonstop, Everyone in the club was watching us. I gave her 300 cop in total over 2 nights. Hope to see her again. IMHO Lido compares to Sao Paulo clubs quality with fewer girls and mixed with subpar, but the hot ones are amazing. Except for the prices they will quote you, Ignore that.

I had a doctor friend of mine meet me in Bogota. We traveled together for 2 weeks and I showed him around both Bogota and Medellin.

In Medellin for 2 weeks I went to La Isla and Fase Dos but after the girls I had met elsewhere. It felt like a complete waste of time. 3 years ago it was terrific. Not anymore, too many gringos from Florida. LOL Those girls want at least 500 cop, some 1 mil. I took my friend to see Loutron, but he seemed shy. I think they wanted 500-600 cop there. The streets of Poblado are swarming with a combination of fat & ugly girls along with others that are semi hot but by this time I had one in my bed so I did not care. My traveling friend scoped up 2 there. I did one, 500 cop.

I met a girl in Medellin (X cam girl and also a teacher) and we stayed together for 8 nights. She was an ideal travel partner, interpreter and fun to be with. Sleeping next to her naked every night was an experience I did not plan on and I stayed a week longer because of it. Probably more than a fling. Went to Parque Arvi etc. We will see each other again. Happy person and fun.

A week in Medellin with a "normal" beautiful girl cost me nothing but dinners, tours and I bought her some clothes. $350 COP We stayed in Humers hotel / then an Airbnb.

So now I am looking inwards. Asking myself how much longer do I want to do this? The Medellin girl could be a full time relationship. She wants it. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3035298]I met a girl in Medellin (X cam girl and also a teacher) and we stayed together for 8 nights. She was an ideal travel partner, interpreter and fun to be with. Sleeping next to her naked every night was an experience I did not plan on and I stayed a week longer because of it. Probably more than a fling. Went to Parque Arvi etc. We will see each other again. Happy person and fun.

A week in Medellin with a "normal" beautiful girl cost me nothing but dinners, tours and I bought her some clothes. $350 COP We stayed in Humers hotel / then an Airbnb.

So now I am looking inwards. Asking myself how much longer do I want to do this? The Medellin girl could be a full time relationship. She wants it. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Its fun to do guatape, jardin, Santorini in doradal, or just stay in the city with a calm and quiet Colombiana presenting herself in the "novia" wrapper.

The risk is that so many will spin the relationship in this context. They know they will get more out of this type of deal versus a one time rate if the guy gets his feelings involved.

A couple chicas from the dating app bragged to me how guys will paypal them money, bring ebay refurb macbooks, spend big money going to Santa Marta, Cartagena, Mexico, and even Spain / Italy.

The thing I always ask myself: is she only doing this stuff with me?

I'm sure someone will reply and tell me how wonderful their Paisa / Rola novia is an angel, but this is not my experience. Most of them show signs of a personality disorder when a serious type relationship develops. They are secretly very jealous of foreigners with the means to travel and spend.

If the extranero lives here, has Spanish, dances merigue / cumbia, and can navigate their childish behavior = it may have a chance of being somewhat "real".

I don't trust any of them out of my sight or even within my sight. The excuses: have to work late, stomach ache, head ache, have class late, family dinner today, mama is upset, sister broke an ankle, lets take things slow, and on and on and on. These chicas are just playing the game.

One of them that I kinda trusted found a business card from a San Andresito jeweler on my counter top. I caught her looking through my bedroom closet 15 minutes later.

Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.

Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.

Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.

Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.

Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!

Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]

Lolitta Spa. Cra. 86 #44 see-58 Apt 201 Did not visit.

Santa Spa (house) I was there 3 years ago and yesterday. The girl I wanted was not there or was so photoshopped I was not interested in the real girl so walked out. Cra. 80 #32 EE-21.

Golden House (house) Did not take because the black girl I wanted was not there because she never existed to begin with or quit long ago. Bait and switch crap! Cra. 80 A #36-21.

Cropolis 9 building Apt 604 is the presentation room. Basically there are like 4 rooms and they have the whole floor. The security people know why you are there if you are asking to go to the 6th floor. I texted I would be there in 30 minutes. The super hot girl was not there or did not exist. I was willing to take a different girl but then they tried to increase the price 20,000 p and that took me over the edge and I walked out. Bait and switch with a price increase pissed me off so much that I refused to give them my money. Cra. 69 see #32 see-80.

Angeles Spa. Cra. 81 #42-60 Never went. They want a 30,000 presentation fee that will applied to the girls fee if you take a girl. I hate that crap!

Took a girl from another one of these places but forgot the address. So took 2 girls in 2 days and the 3rd day I was so pissed off at my wasted time I took a bus to Centro. Had a good F and returned to Laureles to my hotel since it was paid for and I like the area.

I have done this off and on in many cities around Colombia and only for 3 days and give up. Only 20% match their pictures. That is an 80% failure rate. Some of that was during covid when I was here for and so had no choice in the matter.

The names of the brothel / spas do not matter. The names change and sometimes they use multiple company names for the same location. Whatsapp numbers do not matter because they use a million different numbers and most the time it is the person running the place and not the real girl anyways. They will always tell you the girl you want is there now waiting for you. Pictures do not matter because they were taken years ago, photoshopped to death, or the picture simple taken off the internet. Price also means little. It is just a guide. One place listed 100,000 but not for how long. I got there they listed their prices for 15,30, and 60 minutes. Funny how none matched with the 100,000 p listed on the website. So the answer is the paragraph below.

Try this. Go to Google maps. Enter all the addresses I listed above and save each one with the "SAVE" button. Then take 2-3 hours and walk to 3 of them between 3-6 pm. Not as many girls as after 6 pm but easier to find. It is a nice walk through residential areas and you can find some nice neighborhood restaurants and hotels this way. Relaxing walk. After 3 spas you will love it or hate it. You should notice that they all have roughly the same quality. Mostly a little thick (plump) and ages 22-33 with many fake boobs. Most are 170,000 p.

Every advertisement you see on Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka, etc, ask if there are other girls at that location because you want a presentation to see ALL the girls.

I never tried doing this in El Poblado, but should have. I did go once 3 years ago for a short girl with REAL (not fake) big boobs for 180,000 and saw her twice. Picture was 100% correct. Higher prices in El Poblado but MAYBE have higher rate of real pix being used.

I was supposed to stay 2 months but 2 weeks was enough. Not returning for this level of crap. Too many problems for too little success in quality and quantity I wanted.

Sad. The day I was leaving I found a hot young (18-20) girl with her mom sitting on the bench next to me. I got her to the room and she asked for the much dreaded PRE-payment. Walked out and had a repeat girl instead. The one who briefly demanded 300,000 for no condom sex before figuring out I was not going to pay. Funny thing is I finally remembered why she seemed so familiar. I used to do her friend (4 times) 3 years ago. I wanted her 3 years ago but I had a bad vibe about her but tried to take her once and I could tell just while waiting to pay for the room she was going to be a pain in the ass. She asked for a drink, would not look at me, and some other stuff. Before paying for the room I walked out. But 3 years later and taking her for the second time she was great. Yes, I know that is very rare.

In Feb 2008, my first visit to MDE, the immigration guy, after asking why I was there and me saying "turismo", he says, "well, you know, there are a lot of pretty girls here and I think you should take advantage of that!!

So different!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3032830]I can remember being asked the what is the purpose of your visit question and the follow up question of what sort of attractions do you plan to visit as long ago as 2008.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.

I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.

Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.

Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.

Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!

Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]...[/QUOTE]

I don't think that is a new policy. The enforcement may be more stringent. I think you will be fine if you keep it discreet. If you are worried there are always places like the San Peter and the other punter clubhouses around town.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Time to review which hotels are guest friendly in central Medellin.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. [/QUOTE]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?

Sorry if this has been answered. Basic q.

Is there any difference between chicas in parque Lleras clubs vs outside? Quality service baddie rating etc?

What's the incentive for a chica to go in vs standing walking outside? Better client chances? More $?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. [/QUOTE]Airbnb has had that policy for awhile. As I remember what a renter has to agree to, Airbnb says they don't approve of sexual tourism, but it doesn't forbid it; but a host's listing may be suspended if they advertise for sexual tourism. I'm currently in an Airbnb apartment in Laureles and I haven't had any problems with ladies visiting me.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3035319]Its fun to do guatape, jardin, Santorini in doradal, or just stay in the city with a calm and quiet Colombiana presenting herself in the "novia" wrapper.

The risk is that so many will spin the relationship in this context. They know they will get more out of this type of deal versus a one time rate if the guy gets his feelings involved.

A couple chicas from the dating app bragged to me how guys will paypal them money, bring ebay refurb macbooks, spend big money going to Santa Marta, Cartagena, Mexico, and even Spain / Italy.

The thing I always ask myself: is she only doing this stuff with me?

I'm sure someone will reply and tell me how wonderful their Paisa / Rola novia is an angel, but this is not my experience. Most of them show signs of a personality disorder when a serious type relationship develops. They are secretly very jealous of foreigners with the means to travel and spend..[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree and in my 15 years here in Medellin have seen it all and SO for myself the "ILLUSION" is gone, yet my reasoned / balanced / sound advice always falls on deaf ears so as you may have noticed whereas at one time (8 to 12 years ago on these forum boards and in person to visiting friends and acquaintances) I have all but given up here on ISG.

My advice. It is all an ILLUSION, all of them / all of it.

Take it for what it is, simply hit it and forget it. She is not your girl rather it's just your turn.

Trust me it is ALL transactional. Forget any thought or idea about finding a soul mate, romance, lover, trusted friend, wife, confidant and partner.

I am not saying that they are working girls, no! But consider this:

The typical paisa is what they called harlots in past generations yet they give the ILLUSION that they are a Proverbs Chapter 31 woman ready and available for a relationship.

I said enough, stay safe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3035495]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?[/QUOTE]Tats do not jump out much on a black girl so I did not notice. There are very few black girls. Even fewer that are skinny with a narrow pretty face, easy going, and friendly girl. Best I can do to describe her.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3035427]I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.[/QUOTE]This is a much faster and easier method than most of that online dating site BS. I find Centro the best for me with a few limited brothels second best for selection and speed to get her into bed. What I listed are mini brothels that are not well known. A few guys will think it is awesome if they are into thicker older girls with a few fake boobs thrown in and a nice daytime stroll through the neighborhood of Laureles. I had all the time time in the world and could stay 6 months if I wanted to but I knew I could do better elsewhere so I went elsewhere.

That's been done many times here. At one time there was a thread just for that. Maybe there still is.

I do not do the online dating sites, El Poblado scene, drinking, or overnight stays. But was thinking about the scoping stuff so many worry about. This is simply what I would do if I played in that sandbox.

Before you even bother to meet her get her Facebook account where her friends and family are. If she will not share it there is a problem. If she has less than 20 friends there is a problem.

Once you meet, tell her she is super sexy and to pose for some pictures. Why? Because her pictures on the website will be slightly Photoshopped making clear identification difficult. Also, make sure her tattoos on the photo match what she really has. Easy way for her to get away when she shows the police her tattoos do not match the ones in the Tinder or Bumble pictures or pictures shows tattoos and in real she has none.

Tell her you are scared because of all the scoping happening that you wanted a current clear picture of her face that you sent to your friend. Tell that way she will be easy to identify and find when her picture is shown on the local TV news. She does not want to be caught and does not want all her friends and family to know. If she has no ill intentions this should not bother her. If she is a scoper she will leave right then and there (suddenly sick haha).

Tell the office staff or security guard to not let her out unless you are with her. Make sure she hears this.

You made it to your room. If she tries to get you drink before sex that is a bad sign. Your best bet is to go straight to the bedroom. These scoping chicks do not want to have sex with you and will fight tooth and nail for a drink first. She wants you drugged as soon as possible.

Lastly, buy a $20-$50 mini spy camera you can buy Amazon, ebay, and everywhere so you can watch the LIVE video from your phone. Aim one above and one to the side of where you place your drink and test the picture before your date. Open bottle / can or pour a drink into a glass. Open the spy camera app on your phone so you do not miss a second of what is happening. Say you need to go to the bathroom. Place the drink somewhere away from her so that she has to physically stand up and cross the room to put something in it. This makes it clear to you and the police why she went to your drink versus you leave it at the table you are both sitting at. If she reached over for your drink she can simply say she wanted to know if it was cold because her drink was hot or that she was simply reading the ingredients or wanted a closer look because she thought the glass was cool looking. Hard to explain to you and the police why she got up and touched your drink placed across the room. If she is bad call security downstairs to call the police (or call directly) from the bathroom and get her arrested!

BONUS ROUND!

Now if we use my method and we get 5 of these girls arrested within a short time frame of less than a year, then the word will get out that the gringos are dangerous. This should cause these scoping problems to drop considerably once these girls personally know a girl who has been arrested.

Keep in mind that even if you have been with her on many visits there will always be a 5-10% chance of being drugged. Why? Simple. Her kids, friends, and family will always mean more to her. If any of them are in the hospital, you instantly turn into an ATM card. Also, there are a few that play the long game trying to get banking info and such.

Today is a holiday here in Colombia. Things are pretty chill. I was reflecting on old times sitting here looking at old cards and thinking about all the casas and 2 4 1 specials that seem like just yesterday but disappeared about 6 years ago. Crazy times we're in now reading posts about getting Scoped, immigration questions and the rest. I'll probably venture out and hit what's left of El Centro this week for some fun later this week.

This year I have had several swear up and down they would never accept cash.

But they all did and then claim it was my idea and not theirs.

"Looking for a serious relationship, family, finca in rio negro, and a dog".

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;3035545]Trust me it is ALL transactional.[/QUOTE]

I've never paid bareback in Medellin. I usually lay back and ask them to start in cowgirl with the condom visible. Either she grabs the condom or she jumps on me. A surprising number will just hop on without saying a thing. Some will have a half assed talk about being clean before jumping on. I've literally been pulled ontop of / into chica raw before without a chance to grab a condom even. Back in 2022 I had a chica arguing with me that I didn't need a condom since she had her tubes tied. The ones that are most open to raw tend to be the most barrio ones (doesn't mean not hot). I also find when there is good chemistry and repeat that many will do the second or third time raw. I've had a few long term amigovias and dated a chick and raw usually is the norm in those situations but depends on the girl. I've yet to have a raw trio, though I haven't really pushed for it.

[QUOTE=Shemp;3034366]I bring it up when I am in bed naked with the chica. I invite chicas over to my hotel or Airbnb & we have a nice relaxing time. A cocktail or 2, listening to music, some time on the balcony chitchatting, then to the couch for making out & slowly getting the clothes off. We adjourn to the bed & after BBBJ & dining at the why I bring it up before it is time to put it in. I tell them I like it & it is easier to leche for me that way & shockingly some will say ok. If they hesitate I will tell them I have had a vasectomy & my sexual health if excellent. If that doesn't work I tell them I will be more generous if we bareback. Some are a flat out no, others will say make me an offer. I will offer another $20 usd or so, if still a no, then we move on. I think if they have spent some time with you, feel comfortable & you have treated them right there is a better chance of a yes. This has worked for me with many chicas in mde & sjo. Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogLife;3035342]Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.[/QUOTE]You were in Costa Rica or Colombia.

We visited Medellin from October 30th to November 3rd. The immigration process was smooth, with no issues or extensive searches to report. The lines were long, however, so be sure to allow at least an hour for processing. Otherwise, we had no complaints.

I think we were lucky to have avoided rain interrupting our plans. It rained intermittently, but never enough to alter our activities. The weather was awesome and the environment was perfect for everything we wanted to do.

NewLife stands out from other similar establishments thanks to its wide range of options. Over two days, we explored several places in the area, but ended up choosing NewLife both times. For the bargain price, the service exceeded expectations—no complaints at all.

We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long!

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035923]We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long![/QUOTE]A lots of place are like this in south america. Things are celebrated in family and not in public place. Best place on earth for holidays like halloween and christmass for vacacation is probably Pattaya.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035923]We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long![/QUOTE]It is not a Colombian thing. Only has been at all due to influence of media and US tourists. The Day of the dead is the next day and may be more of a traditional thing, although not as much as in Mexico I think.

Halloween is an American thing, and more or less the same in Canada, but in other places in the world it is only even known about because of American influence.

[QUOTE=RacShack;3035790]You were in Costa Rica or Colombia.[/QUOTE]Colombia.

United Airways. Houston to Medellin non stop.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035921]NewLife stands out from other similar establishments thanks to its wide range of options. Over two days, we explored several places in the area, but ended up choosing NewLife both times. For the bargain price, the service exceeded expectationsno complaints at all.[/QUOTE]I don't know which were the days you went. Went both on Sunday and Monday.

Sunday was slim pickings with the B or C team.

Monday was a disaster as there were only 4 or 5 girls, bottom of the barrel. With 15 guys waiting. Learnt it was a National holiday: All Saints' Day.

Maybe the earlier robbery last month at this location has impacted the establishment.

Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.

My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036375]Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.

My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.[/QUOTE]In all my trips I've found it's luck of the draw.

Went through Bogota last night and was worried as I had a tight connection. Until I saw absolutely no lines, for Colombianos or extranjenos.

Made it with a few minutes to spare to find my connection was also delayed but that's Colombia.

The absolute worst time in my experience during a shift change.

Hey guys,

Very long story short: my ex was a crazy sex-addict, we had an open relationship. We were living in Philippines, and had our 'lifestyle' for 2 years while living in Thailand.

She could see guys like once a month or so, sometime with me (had a few threesomes and even foursomes) sometime without me, especially since I was abroad for a few months sometime. Always filming it for me, so she was kind of my girl and my pornstar. Always secure, always 100 % honest. Very addictive shit. Broke up for other reasons and. I guess in 'cheating-Paisa-land', some woman could be receptive to this kind of idea, no? But I have an hard time realizing if I just was so crazy lucky, and if apart from prepagos, no women would ever do that. What would be my best bets to meet such women here (please don't say Parque Lleras) that are NOT prepagos. I mean, I would maybe not mind a prepago / webcam girl / actual pornstar (I think that industry is getting huge here lately) but would have no idea how to meet them, and scared of too much drama.

Cheers, thanks for your advices.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036375]Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.

My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.[/QUOTE]2 pm is the worst in the early afternoon. I think before 12 pm is best.

For those who don't speak Spanish, it can be a bit overwhelming trying to understand what people are saying. I would just try to use Google Translate to try to understand what I am being asked to and to answer. Of course, the ultimate solution is to learn Spanish but some don't have the time to learn it or can't make the effort. I know that people say that it is easy to learn Spanish but especially for the older gents, it is not that easy but you can easily learn some basic phrases and that is better than nothing.

I know that people always like to talk about taking that bus from the airport to the mall and then taking a taxi to save some money but I am usually tired after that flight and with luggage, I just want to get to the hotel as soon as possible without any hassles. White taxi for 118 mil direct to your hotel. It is worth it to me but if you are tight on cash, yes, I would take that bus.

You can get cash from the ATM at the airport. I like the green ATM upstairs. I don't remember the name of the bank but it starts with a S. You can withdrawn 2,000,000 pesos so you will be flush with pesos from day one.

I have a SIM from a previous trip. Wi-Fi is available at the airport. I don't know if you can buy a SIM card at the airport or load. Last time I got a SIM card, I was informed that it needed to be registered or there would be issues in the future. So I did go to the cellphone company outlet to register my SIM card. I usually just buy load from a convenience store when I get into town. It is relatively cheap to buy load.

I actually had an issue with my Abnb. The wrong address was provided because the owner did not want to give out the correct address to Abnb due to concerns. Now, the owner usually messages the correct address directly to the renter but in this case, she forgot. So I am at the wrong address and I don't have load on my cellphone and there is no one there. Eventually I found a place with WiFi and was able to contact the owner to get the right address. She apologized and said she forgot. A little bit of stress there on my first day!

I had arranged for one of favorite girls to visit later that afternoon and she came on time, looking great as usual. 19 years old, pretty, great body, great in bed. It was a good way to start the trip.

Afterwards I had some wonderful tacos. That is my favorite meal here.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3036471]2 pm is the worst in the early afternoon. I think before 12 pm is best.[/QUOTE]There have been many stories of phone searches and a large number of questions as to the purpose of your trip. I will only tell you how my experience with immigration went.

Just in case, I deleted all chats on WhatsApp and Messenger related to girls, and I deleted all pictures of girls on my cellphone and on Google Cloud. Everything is on a thumb drive that I left at home.

After my ten minute wait, I go to the immigration officer and give him my passport. I had filled out the MIG form so he has the information that he needs. He doesn't ask me any questions and doesn't ask to inspect my phone. After a minute, he gives me back my passport and that is my experience.

There is a final part where you are directed to the left where your luggage is x-rayed or directed to the right where you just walk out with your luggage. The officer tells me to go to the right and there is no luggage inspection.

All in all, it went very well and quickly without any hassles. Of course, your experience may differ.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036581]There have been many stories of phone searches and a large number of questions as to the purpose of your trip. I will only tell you how my experience with immigration went.

[/QUOTE]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.

[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.

[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medellíand a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]Agree. A single male traveler entering MDE is susceptible to more scrutiny. Why take any chances? No condoms, no Viagra, no x rated videos on phone.

And I would think everyone knows you need a 6-month buffer on the expiration of your passport.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036516]You can get cash from the ATM at the airport. I like the green ATM upstairs. I don't remember the name of the bank but it starts with a S. You can withdrawn 2,000,000 pesos so you will be flush with pesos from day one.[/QUOTE]I can tell you that the Davivienda ATM upstairs will also give you 2 mil pesos with a small handling fee (be sure to decline any conversion offers).

[QUOTE]I have a SIM from a previous trip. Wi-Fi is available at the airport. I don't know if you can buy a SIM card at the airport or load. Last time I got a SIM card, I was informed that it needed to be registered or there would be issues in the future.[/QUOTE]There is a CLARO outlet right at the airport as you walk out (right side) which can sell you a SIM and register your phone properly. Failing to register a phone officially if using a local SIM means they will eventually lock it from use. In any country even back home. This is why I just don't bother and I use an eSIM instead (for faster data).

[QUOTE]I actually had an issue with my Abnb. The wrong address was provided because the owner did not want to give out the correct address to Abnb due to concerns. Now, the owner usually messages the correct address directly to the renter but in this case, she forgot. So I am at the wrong address and I don't have load on my cellphone and there is no one there. Eventually I found a place with WiFi and was able to contact the owner to get the right address. She apologized and said she forgot. A little bit of stress there on my first day![/QUOTE]This is why I use a cell phone carrier (T-Mobile) that always has data in every country. I can get a 2nd eSIM or physical SIM for higher data speeds, but my phone works just fine wherever I go.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.

[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.

Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".

[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]...... brought no condoms .......[/QUOTE]I did not watch the video, they send you back for condoms? I usually travel with a stack. Have not been able to find Trojan Bareskins in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036814]I did not watch the video, they send you back for condoms? I usually travel with a stack. Have not been able to find Trojan Bareskins in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I have nekkid pictures of tutes on my phone. I also like to bring my own stash of condoms and massage oils in my checked bag. Guess I won't be going to Colombia hahaha!

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.

Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".[/QUOTE]I also suspect they don't reveal all the facts. Eg they leave out that they also had handcuffs in their luggage.

I see references in the local press about something called "Angel Watch." I'm not so sure how real that is because there is a surprisingly high amount of BS published by official sources here.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.

[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's stupid to bring Viagra To Colombia. Viagra by itself is not a sign of a sex tourist. There are many guys who have local girlfriends. Even condoms is not really a big factor for the same reason. It is usually something more in addition to Viagra and condoms.

At the same time, first you need to be searched by officials. Yes, you have heard a few stories here and there but how many of us in terms of percentage actually get stopped and searched? I know that I have never been searched or interrogated in my past visits to Colombia for the past 4 years or so. I don't know anyone personally who has been searched in that manner. But yes it does happen to some, the unfortunate few.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035694]I

Tell the office staff or security guard to not let her out unless you are with her. Make sure she hears this.

.[/QUOTE]What are the odds that a Colombian security guard will risk his job / life to physically restrain a girl, in order to protect a gringo's possessions.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3036884]I see references in the local press about something called "Angel Watch." I'm not so sure how real that is because there is a surprisingly high amount of BS published by official sources here.[/QUOTE]Colombia is pretty slow as far as enforcement. I'm surprised even this much has been done.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.

Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".[/QUOTE]You don't see anyone turned around because this is happening in the back room where you get questioned and searched. There is a process in place and one can be detained for a day or two before being sent back home. Besides that, immigration lines are oftentimes 300-400 people long, if they pull out, say 10 people, you won't even notice. And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.

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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036968]And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.[/QUOTE]I would say half is being generous, especially if a flight just pulled in from the USA. It's basically like fishing in a bucket for immigration. Also, I wonder if a red flag occurs when they pull up your passport information at the desk and see the number of times you've entered the country and/or if you are on the pedi list which might trigger inspections? They could potentially screen everyone entering using a certain criteria when they see your passport information and not just some random people in line or a combination of both.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036973]I would say half is being generous, especially if a flight just pulled in from the USA. It's basically like fishing in a bucket for immigration. Also, I wonder if a red flag occurs when they pull up your passport information at the desk and see the number of times you've entered the country and/or if you are on the pedi list which might trigger inspections? They could potentially screen everyone entering using a certain criteria when they see your passport information and not just some random people in line or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.

I know this is off-topic but I don't know where to post it. I'm doing it here because it is one of the busiest forums on the site.

When you look in the Argentina sub-forum it links to a separate website, [URL]ArgentinaPrivate.com[/URL]. However, that website is dead. Anyone have any suggestions on where to get good info on Argentina mongering?

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story[/QUOTE]Very few people living in or touring this country can explain anything clearly at all.

In regards to all of the robbery stories, they are all missing very important details.

I often see many guys sloppy drunk out on the street. I wonder if they didn't just pass out in their apto versus actually being drugged.

It is the same with the USA port of entry phone search stories. No clear details as to what was said or why, nothing.

I understand that it must be very embarrassing to lose funds electronics and jewelry to some hood rat on a dating app.

Do these people not realize that a new iPhone is worth killing for here?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036968]And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.[/QUOTE]Flights I've been on, maybe 10% are non-Hispanic males without a female partner. I'm always in the first six rows of seating, and I have Priority boarding, so I see almost all the people getting on the plane.

[QUOTE=ILikeButts;3036988]I know this is off-topic but I don't know where to post it. I'm doing it here because it is one of the busiest forums on the site.

When you look in the Argentina sub-forum it links to a separate website, [URL]ArgentinaPrivate.com[/URL]. However, that website is dead. Anyone have any suggestions on where to get good info on Argentina mongering?[/QUOTE]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.

Ventured down to El Centro today since the weather was pretty nice. Saw a handful of older white gringos while I was walking around. Decided to check out whatever casas I could find. I used to hit one on about every other block back in the day. Today I came across a few. Settled on a nice Veny and had a good session. Prices have gone up and I got the sense that things are a bit more business like now which is probably the result of a lot more foreigners. But anyway, had an excellent session. Great BBBJ and good sex, very affectionate and pleasant. El Centro was very crowded with Christmas approaching. A lot of vendors on the sidewalks. Walked around the church and down around the hot spots. Those that know, know. Decent talent.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037006]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.[/QUOTE]It's working right now from the USA.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036893]I don't think it's stupid to bring Viagra To Colombia. Viagra by itself is not a sign of a sex tourist. There are many guys who have local girlfriends. Even condoms is not really a big factor for the same reason. It is usually something more in addition to Viagra and condoms.

At the same time, first you need to be searched by officials. Yes, you have heard a few stories here and there but how many of us in terms of percentage actually get stopped and searched? I know that I have never been searched or interrogated in my past visits to Colombia for the past 4 years or so. I don't know anyone personally who has been searched in that manner. But yes it does happen to some, the unfortunate few.[/QUOTE]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3037024]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.[/QUOTE]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036971]Mfs like you should be sent back home. Colombia no longer welcomes sex tourists, they don't want you there. And instead of keeping low profile you mfs keep packing your suitcases with oils, condoms, dildos, and handcuffs thinking you will never get searched. I will be laughing my ass off when you finally get kicked out.[/QUOTE]Hey I think you clicked on the wrong forum, this is not Faith and theology, it is the International Sex Guide. I know, its rather embarrassing.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037006]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the effort at funluvr. I am in Chile in the moment and tried it without a VPN and then with a VPN from both US and Argentina. I got the same error message for all:

This page isn't working.

[URL]argentinaprivate.com[/URL] is currently unable to handle this request.

HTTP ERROR 502.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037001]Flights I've been on, maybe 10% are non-Hispanic males without a female partner. I'm always in the first six rows of seating, and I have Priority boarding, so I see almost all the people getting on the plane.[/QUOTE]10%? Haha. Put your glasses on and look at the immigration line. Maybe 10% are those visiting family or traveling for business. And that's on a good day.

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Adding my experience: I flew in over the weekend around midnight. Immigration took me about 15 minutes. My friend that arrived the following day in the afternoon did have to wait about 3 hours. Entry went like this: Why are you here? Tourism. Go ahead, have a nice day.

Honestly some of you guys remind me of my boomer parents that buy into every conspiracy theory they hear without anything to support it and double down on it when there is evidence to the contrary. I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. Common sense. Do you see a lot of people out? Stores open? Women and kids and police still around?

[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]Stupid to bring Viagra why? I've travelled around the world bringing an assortment of meds like Viagra and antibiotics and it has never been an issue. I'll note I bring it in a checked bag, not carry on.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it. There are legit drugstores around the world. This is where common sense comes in. Drugstore chain selling a drug that's legal to sell OTC? Probably legit. Guy that looks like a junkie trying to sell you something on the street? Probably don't buy it. Consider you can often order medications online that are Indian or Turkish branded. Those are from legit pharmacies. I'm amazed that you can have travelled, seen how countries in the world have basically everything the USA does just as nice and at times nicer, but still think only the US has real Viagra?

Lastly it's not even just pinching pennies. Depending on the medicine you need to go a doctor. There's a copay. That could mean missing a bit of work for the visit, gas driving there, then they refer you to a specialist. There's another copay, more time, etc. Finally even with a prescription and insurance the medicine itself might cost more.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036979]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.[/QUOTE]This literally the confirmation that search is random and mostly based on your profile. If they think you look suspicious then they pulled you out. Different arrival time when it's less busy is the safe thing to do for now, because the afternoon arrivals are the sex tourists lol

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036979]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.[/QUOTE]Has anyone witnessed a non black male get denied?

I'm planning a trip there and although I don't look like pookie and have traveled all over the world, there seems to be a pattern from what I've witnessed.

[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]Adding my experience: I flew in over the weekend around midnight. Immigration took me about 15 minutes. My friend that arrived the following day in the afternoon did have to wait about 3 hours. Entry went like this: Why are you here? Tourism. Go ahead, have a nice day.

Honestly some of you guys remind me of my boomer parents that buy into every conspiracy theory they hear without anything to support it and double down on it when there is evidence to the contrary. I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. Common sense. Do you see a lot of people out? Stores open? Women and kids and police still around?

Stupid to bring Viagra why? I've travelled around the world bringing an assortment of meds like Viagra and antibiotics and it has never been an issue. I'll note I bring it in a checked bag, not carry on.

You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it. There are legit drugstores around the world. This is where common sense comes in. Drugstore chain selling a drug that's legal to sell OTC? Probably legit. Guy that looks like a junkie trying to sell you something on the street? Probably don't buy it. Consider you can often order medications online that are Indian or Turkish branded. Those are from legit pharmacies. I'm amazed that you can have travelled, seen how countries in the world have basically everything the USA does just as nice and at times nicer, but still think only the US has real Viagra?.[/QUOTE]Why you ask? What kind of safety protocols do they have for prescription drugs? You don't know and don't either. You can get ED drugs from several approved and reputable providers without any co- pays or visits. It can be done online and these companies have oversight. Doesn't cost more than $20 so if that's a problem than Penny pinching is an issue. I don't travel internationally with prescription drugs without a prescription. To each his own.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3037161]10%? Haha. Put your glasses on and look at the immigration line. Maybe 10% are those visiting family or traveling for business. And that's on a good day.[/QUOTE]Certainly won't be hard to send sex tourists home if they make the effort.

[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. [/QUOTE]It is always fine. I have been out downtown as late as 4 am, but some people are afraid of how it looks and afraid to see drug addicts.

[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it.[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing when I bought a phone charger off the street in Honduras. Brand new in the box. Phone chargers are cheap to make. It is only a couple of wires. Who would go through the trouble of faking one along with making a box for it. But sure enough, the charger was just an empty shell. Can't remember if the wire part worked. Also thought the same thing when I was in Peru and handed the taxi driver a 5 soles coin. He told me it was fake and showed me how ro tell. I thought who the hell is going through all that trouble minting fake cheap ass coins. But stranger things do happen.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037268]I don't travel internationally with prescription drugs without a prescription. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Whether a drug is a prescription drug or not is relative to what country you got it from. One country's prescription is many other countries' over the counter. For instance, I do not know many countries where you need a prescription for amoxicilin. But countries like USA you have to go through a doctor to get it. For a narcotic, then yes have a prescription. But ain't nobody checking for a prescription for dick pills that can easily be bought in a USA gas station or on Amazon.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3037349]It is always fine. I have been out downtown as late as 4 am, but some people are afraid of how it looks and afraid to see drug addicts.[/QUOTE]You should not depict it that easy. I believe the majority of who reads here and then ventures to Medellin is the type of tourists for which a stay at the old Mansion is top brave adventure in an alien range. You should not put those people in danger by downscaling the danger.

I have been walking around Centro at 2am since old times 10-20 years ago, and I can tell IT IS DANGEROUS. It is not the junkies. It is the groups of desperate who can attack at any time if they see an easy prey. "No dar papaya!"

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3037226]This literally the confirmation that search is random and mostly based on your profile. If they think you look suspicious then they pulled you out. Different arrival time when it's less busy is the safe thing to do for now, because the afternoon arrivals are the sex tourists lol[/QUOTE]I entered MDE immigration last week. One question politely asked, I responded "tourism", and admitted with smile.

During the 1 h long waiting time, I spent my time looking at people queueing before me. Only one was pulled apart for additional questions and checks, and it was exactly the type I would have questioned if I were the screener: gringo and (to my eyes) suspicious character LOL. Maybe one who reads here.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.

Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.

Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.

You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]Ethnocentric nonsense.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.

Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.

Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.

You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.

And BTW my pharmacy is about 50 meters from my office.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3037024]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.[/QUOTE]Brasil is cheaper.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.

Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.

Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.

You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Generally, if you have health insurance in the USA, it would be able $1 per pill so about the same price. The patent for Viagra has expired so generic Viagra is available and that is what health insurance companies pay for so Pfizer usually does not benefit from these prescriptions anymore.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3037472]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.[/QUOTE]Ethnocentric as noted before for another person. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Your work field must be not related to any in the area of chemicals, farmaceutical, etc.
Regardless what claimed by "experts" on Facebook, "generic" is EXACTLY the same substance as patented "original". The problem is with generic produced by low-quality uncertain industries.
The production quality of top-tier Colombian farma industry is better than cheap mass brands in USA. Me, for one, I would go back to my country on foot rather than accepting to be hospitalized in a 2-nd tier hospital in USA, the worst place to get seriously sick in the world unless with millions to spend.
Wanting to pay more for a logo on the box is wishing to give a gift to a company that does not need to be subsidized, but there is freedom to put money where one wants. So, be happy and buy only Pfizer made in USA.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3037518]Generally, if you have health insurance in the USA[/QUOTE]But you pay to the insurance much more than what you save on the pill.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037549]So, be happy and buy only Pfizer made in USA.[/QUOTE]AI says, "The majority of Pfizer's brand-name Viagra (sildenafil) is manufactured in Ringaskiddy, County Cork, Ireland. While the company is headquartered in the United States, its primary manufacturing facility for this specific drug is located in Ireland. "

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[QUOTE=Huacho;3037553]AI says, "The majority of Pfizer's brand-name Viagra (sildenafil) is manufactured in Ringaskiddy, County Cork, Ireland. While the company is headquartered in the United States, its primary manufacturing facility for this specific drug is located in Ireland. "[/QUOTE]The EU safety protocols for quality control are the strictest in the world.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.

Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.

Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.

You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the protocols for how they handle drugs in Colombia and Tijuana. I also only carry prescriptions so it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3037465]Ethnocentric nonsense.[/QUOTE]No, it's common sense. I only travel with prescriptions.

[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3037472]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.

And BTW my pharmacy is about 50 meters from my office.[/QUOTE]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3037623]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.[/QUOTE]Are you now going to argue with a retired pharmacist? I buy 100 MG Maxifort in Tijuana for less than a dollar a pill. It is made in Mexico. Lots of Tijuana guys use it. It works great for me and I also bring it with me to Medellin.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3037625] I buy 100 MG Maxifort in Tijuana for less than a dollar a pill. [/QUOTE]A good pharmacy to get Maxifort and Figral in Tijuana is at Piri across from the Wax Museum.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3037645]A good pharmacy to get Maxifort and Figral in Tijuana is at Piri across from the Wax Museum.[/QUOTE]That is where I buy it. They have the best price. All those pharmacies on Revo try to rip a gringo off. Which do you like better the Maxifort or the Figral or do you think they the same?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3037673] Which do you like better the Maxifort or the Figral or do you think they the same?.[/QUOTE]I've had good results from both with Maxifort having a slight edge in quality over Figral. Both are at a great price at Piri.

[QUOTE=Hossi36;3037513]Brasil is cheaper.[/QUOTE]There's more fake ED drugs in Brazil. Never had an issue anywhere else but in Brazil it's fake and ineffective a lot of times.

Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.

Seeking has been giving lots of trouble lately. I was forced to create a new account and now they are asking for ID verification / selfie etc; talk about invasion of privacy. And it seems that they will ban / suspend your account without any reason. They are impossible to work with. What's a safe sugar dating site that's being used in Colombia? Especially in Medellin?

Anyone else experiencing major problems with seeking lately!

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]I've been to a lot of MP's & every 1 I have been to offers extras. Plenty of them in the Rio shopping center in Poblado. Anything from a hand job to anal action. The casas, mostly in centro & Laureles, are basically brothels so anything goes depending on the chica. The stripclubs, besides la isla, Face Dos, Conejitas in centro & other lower enders in centro all have rooms in the back for your dirty desires. I have been going to mde in my 40's, 50's & 60's & have never been asked for an ID. I do carry a copy of my passport just in case I have a policia encounter, but in 20+ trips over 20 years, that has never happened.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately few, it any, provide extras. Of course you'd know the answer if you RTFF jajaja

The ID question is a good one and a little less clear... I have used a photocopy of my passport and an expired drivers license with success. I currently just use a (valid) passport card or expired military ID.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3037623]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.[/QUOTE]I was a process engineer in pharma production. We sent bulk batches to the US for packing at the US site. I guess they stamped it made in the USA.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;3038314]Seeking has been giving lots of trouble lately. I was forced to create a new account and now they are asking for ID verification / selfie etc; talk about invasion of privacy. And it seems that they will ban / suspend your account without any reason. They are impossible to work with. What's a safe sugar dating site that's being used in Colombia? Especially in Medellin?

Anyone else experiencing major problems with seeking lately![/QUOTE]The site has changed a lot I have been on there over 10 years. I took a break for a few months (only once) and when I came back they made me change the name of my profile. I had mentioned on my profile that I am not interested in buying pics and their BOT flagged me for that. It was a good site for years but has gotten more expensive not just that membership but the amount of money the girls are asking for.

You have to be careful how you talk on there. They suspended my profile and I asked what I did wrong and was reinstated. That site is only good if you need to meet someone ASAP like when the weather is bad.

I have have found Tinder / Instagram more useful and it's less money.

[QUOTE=Shemp;3038334]..... I have been going to mde in my 40's, 50's & 60's & have never been asked for an ID. I do carry a copy of my passport just in case I have a policia encounter, but in 20+ trips over 20 years, that has never happened.[/QUOTE]I've never been asked for ID to enter an establishment but I have been by police on the streets, it has happened to me as far back as 17 years ago.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;3036429]Hey guys,

Very long story short: my ex was a crazy sex-addict, we had an open relationship. We were living in Philippines, and had our 'lifestyle' for 2 years while living in Thailand.

She could see guys like once a month or so, sometime with me (had a few threesomes and even foursomes) sometime without me, especially since I was abroad for a few months sometime. Always filming it for me, so she was kind of my girl and my pornstar. Always secure, always 100 % honest. Very addictive shit. Broke up for other reasons and. I guess in 'cheating-Paisa-land', some woman could be receptive to this kind of idea, no? But I have an hard time realizing if I just was so crazy lucky, and if apart from prepagos, no women would ever do that. What would be my best bets to meet such women here (please don't say Parque Lleras) that are NOT prepagos. I mean, I would maybe not mind a prepago / webcam girl / actual pornstar (I think that industry is getting huge here lately) but would have no idea how to meet them, and scared of too much drama.

Cheers, thanks for your advices.[/QUOTE]They do exist. Certain women make rules for some men and break these same rules for others. Your best bet is by living there and getting to know people as a local in my opinion. If. You leading with your wallet, of course you can ask those working girls in the casas or online if they are interested. Good luck.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;3038029]There's more fake ED drugs in Brazil. Never had an issue anywhere else but in Brazil it's fake and ineffective a lot of times.[/QUOTE]In that case, we have had very different experiences.

There has been a lot of talk about ED meds. All I would say that is that they are easily available at the drugstores for a reasonable price and the generic version seems to work fine.

The weather is generally nice. Sunny with rain here and there. The rain seems to finish in a short period of time and is not all day.

The immigration line can be long if you arrive at popular times usually the afternoon or the weekend or Friday so if you don't want a long time, you need to try to arrive early morning or late night and avoid holiday weekends. Last time I arrived here on Wednesday at 2 pm and it was a 3 hour wait. This time I arrived early morning on Tuesday and it was 10 minutes. You could also do research on how many flights are arriving at a certain time and day but that is a little more effort.

I generally see online girls and it is about the same as last year in terms of quality of the girls and prices. There seems to be a pissing match whenever you mention prices with guys saying that you are overpaying so I am going to avoid that topic. I am content with the prices that I am paying for the quality of the girls online. For those trying to save money, you should go to El Centro and see girls on the streets or in the casas for 50-70 mil. And you can believe that these girls are the same as the girls walking around Parque Lleras and you are so much smarter than the simps in Poblado who are overpaying. It may be true in some cases, but it is not true in all cases.

It is your money so you can spend it the way you want, and I would not worry about what anonymous guys say.

Guys generally seem happy to be here and so far no one I have met has been whining or complaining about Medellin. It seems to be an online thing.

Hi,

I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help.

PP2.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3038710]I generally see online girls and it is about the same as last year in terms of quality of the girls and prices. There seems to be a pissing match whenever you mention prices with guys saying that you are overpaying so I am going to avoid that topic. I am content with the prices that I am paying for the quality of the girls online. For those trying to save money, you should go to El Centro and see girls on the streets or in the casas for 50-70 mil. And you can believe that these girls are the same as the girls walking around Parque Lleras and you are so much smarter than the simps in Poblado who are overpaying. It may be true in some cases, but it is not true in all cases.

It is your money so you can spend it the way you want, and I would not worry about what anonymous guys say.

Guys generally seem happy to be here and so far no one I have met has been whining or complaining about Medellin. It seems to be an online thing.[/QUOTE]The Lleras girls are basically the old-school "Facebook types" or what you swipe on the apps now — flashy, know they're hot, and usually start at 400 k+. I've paid it recently for a chica who was legit stunning, but most of the time I just pass. Not worth the fight or the precedent it sets. Pay 400 once and good luck ever getting her for less, ask for 300 and she shows up pissed off or flakes.

Centro girls are definitely more "hood" vibe, lots of Venezuelans, cute in their own way, and now it's pretty much 80 k minimum instead of the old 50-70. Still way cheaper though.

I usually just look for whoever's cute, reliable, good in bed, and doesn't hit me up every five minutes for Rappi, Uber, snacks, etc. I'll try the "frequent flyer" discount pitch with the ones I like, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Their brain has trouble processing the "hey can I buy in bulk" rationale.

At the end of the day it's the same story in Bogotá now too, so can't even fully blame the Lleras bachelor-party crowd anymore LOL.

[QUOTE=PeterPan2;3038852]Hi,

I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help..[/QUOTE]Can you clear your unbox?

You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3035255]It's been a solid few months in Antioquia this year. I've covered the whole oriente small towns, backroads, the works. A lot's shifted since pre-pandemic, but the core game's still recognizable.

When I first rolled in, Fase II was 190 mil, independents 150 mil standard. GFE was the default; half the time money never came up until the end, and 150 was fine. Travel companions were a text awaydomestic trip for the price of two quick sessions.

I stay out of Lleras now. Word is the girls there shark harder than ever.

Veracruz and the Laureles / Beland casas still deliver. Plenty of cute floaters passing through, easy to swap contacts. The best-looking Colombianas I've met this year all came from those spots. Catch is, they vanish fast.

The top 5 cutest of this trip were not expensive dates. I just got lucky.

Curiosity pushed me onto a romance app. Breaks my rule: stick to the agenda, stay safe.

Some sharp 30-somethings will play for a glamping weekend, no cash exchanged..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3039075]You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]When did he ever mention a casa in his post?

Are you seeing things or hearing things?

[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3039075]You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]My bad, he did mention casas. My experience with an el Centro casa is at New Life located at: CL. 56 #43-39. I never went wrong there. Keep in mind that they will charge you a "looking" fee if you don't choose a girl but I've always found one to my liking.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3038912]Can you clear your unbox?[/QUOTE]Hi, I cleared my box. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]Fase Dos is the other strip club that is high end like La Isla. Any casas like New Life & Energy, couples of others provide service. There are several massage places in Poblado in Rio Sur Mall that provide extras, but it is expensive. I've never been checked for ID, always carry paper copy of passport & DL.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3039179]Fase Dos is the other strip club that is high end like La Isla. Any casas like New Life & Energy, couples of others provide service. There are several massage places in Poblado in Rio Sur Mall that provide extras, but it is expensive. I've never been checked for ID, always carry paper copy of passport & DL.[/QUOTE]Fase dos is less expensive. Tourists usually go to la isla. La sial is closer to what you can see in american stip club but you can fuck the girls in the room and vip. If you want to throw 500 $ to 1000 $ in a night you will probably have a far more better experience at la isla.

I too will be going to Medellin December 14. Let me know if anyone wants to meet up. Don't mind checking few places with a wingman. I can do casas alone but strip clubs intimidate me a little. DM if you are free those dates.

[QUOTE=PeterPan2;3038852]Hi,

I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help.

PP2.[/QUOTE]

Really short and sweet for people that are looking for actionable advice not runaround answers for MDE. First I will say I didn't venture down to centro quite yet but so I can speak on that just yet. As far as Parque Lleras goes most girls are going for under 300 mil pesos MAX, if you are paying anything more for an hour I don't think that's a smart business decision most girls will try to quote 100 usd but I always talk them down to south if 300 mil like I said. As far as my non Spanish speakers life will be more enjoyed if you speak it, I don't so take my advice and at least know how to stumble through sentences. It makes the whole interaction better when you can communicate with the chica. As far as girls goes literally stand out in the park and wave girls down simple conversations and exchange contacts and invite or whatever you want to do. Uber is fine out here for haven't had a problem and it's relatively cheap like south of 10 mill pesos. Whoever said the food is trash has zero taste buds. (this is a joke) but no seriously the food is not bad I've had a great meal every day and hope it continues. If you get a chance go to mall and interact with locals it's really a pretty country and you should see more than culo when your here.

Benji.

Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.

Benji.

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039558]Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.

Benji.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the massage place you went to? Is it close to parque lleras?

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039394]Really short and sweet for people that are looking for actionable advice not runaround answers for MDE. First I will say I didn't venture down to centro quite yet but so I can speak on that just yet. As far as Parque Lleras goes most girls are going for under 300 mil pesos MAX, if you are paying anything more for an hour I don't think that's a smart business decision most girls will try to quote 100 usd but I always talk them down to south if 300 mil like I said. As far as my non Spanish speakers life will be more enjoyed if you speak it, I don't so take my advice and at least know how to stumble through sentences. It makes the whole interaction better when you can communicate with the chica. As far as girls goes literally stand out in the park and wave girls down simple conversations and exchange contacts and invite or whatever you want to do. Uber is fine out here for haven't had a problem and it's relatively cheap like south of 10 mill pesos. Whoever said the food is trash has zero taste buds. (this is a joke) but no seriously the food is not bad I've had a great meal every day and hope it continues. If you get a chance go to mall and interact with locals it's really a pretty country and you should see more than culo when your here.i.[/QUOTE]What are your accommodations? K.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3039614]What's the name of the massage place you went to? Is it close to parque lleras?[/QUOTE]It's called jade place I would text the number and wait on the corner where it is so they can let you in. It's 500 ft from the park.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3039668]What are your accommodations? K.[/QUOTE]What does that mean?

Hello,

I would really like to visit Colombia this summer.

I'm a huge fan of Thailand and I go there every year.

However, two things make me hesitate for Colombia: safety and the language barrier.

When I travel alone in Thailand, I don't go to the specialised bars for ST. I prefer going to nightclubs, enjoying the nightlife, meeting girls on the dance floor, and continuing the night with someone if we have a good connection. At the hotel, many times she go back after long sleeping and at this moment I give money.

Is a similar nightlife experience possible in Medellíand? And for money too?

Which nightclubs would you recommend?

Is it better to book an Airbnb in Parque Lleras or stay in a hotel?

Do you have any other advice? And what do you think about going there without speaking Spanish?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;3039794]Hello,

However, two things make me hesitate for Colombia: safety and the language barrier.[/QUOTE]It depends on your native language, which does not seem to be English. English is not widely spoken in Colombia, but almost no other languages are spoken at all.

Medellin can be safe and it can be dangerous. It depends on how you behave. Walking around Poblado and Laureles, I have always felt safe. Yet at the same time, I am on my guard and making sure that I know where my wallet and cellphone are. It is always late night and walking down isolated streets that can be dangerous in any city.

Being drugged and robbed is always something you need to be on guard for. The biggest issue is drinking with the girl. You might want to avoid this to decrease the odds. Security at your place is also another factor. Especially if you are new to Medellin, it would be best to have security at the front desk.

The standard advice of chica proofing your room applies here. Don't leave anything of value in a place where a girl can take it. If you don't give a girl the opportunity to steal from you, you don't have to worry.

There is also this issue of having an agreement with the girl prior to coming to your room. I often have girls chat with me online and want to meet without any discussion of price. I am usually the one to bring it up because I don't want any misunderstandings. Negotiations after services have been rendered is always much more difficult. I like to know how much it will be and her expectations prior to meeting. I think that having no agreement may be a strategy to getting more money out of you after the act assuming that it is not a normal date. At the same time, if a young attractive girl wants to go out with you and you are old enough to be her father or grandfather and you are just average looking, you have to remember that if it is too good to be true, it probably isn't' true.

It isn't that I am so smart. It is that I have made a lot of mistakes in the past and have learned from them.

Good luck to all and stay safe!

[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039558]Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.

Benji.[/QUOTE]Nice weekend. Glad you had fun and it worked out for you. I have not been to Medellin yet. But I have been to Bogota twice. Your advice is good. The first time I went to Bogota alone it was real fun but I felt out of place sometimes. The second time I went with a friend I trusted. We had a blast. My Spanish is sub par his is fluent so that helped. It was good because we found non working girls to hang out with also. And I also use sites like seeking arrangements, to find some good quality woman that I can vibe with for one night. Other than that cheers to you. Also guys just saying, reports like these get me ready for my next trip and put on my explorers hat. Medellin in coming on the list next year.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3039935]Medellin can be safe and it can be dangerous. It depends on how you behave. Walking around Poblado and Laureles, I have always felt safe. Yet at the same time, I am on my guard and making sure that I know where my wallet and cellphone are. It is always late night and walking down isolated streets that can be dangerous in any city.

Being drugged and robbed is always something you need to be on guard for. The biggest issue is drinking with the girl. You might want to avoid this to decrease the odds. Security at your place is also another factor. Especially if you are new to Medellin, it would be best to have security at the front desk.

The standard advice of chica proofing your room applies here. Don't leave anything of value in a place where a girl can take it. If you don't give a girl the opportunity to steal from you, you don't have to worry.
[/QUOTE]Best to get your agreement in writing, notarized and witnessed and have a liquidated damage clause, all drafted by an attorney. And specify all the services she will perform. Never trust a hoor. Then they want the $$ up front and upsell after your pants are down and tell you extra for more than a simple hand job. Better to do only short time, the girl can pretend she has to leave early instead of staying all night, and be a real whiner if you don't let her run.


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[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3038898]know they're hot, and usually start at 400 k+. I've paid it recently for a chica who was legit stunning, but most of the time I just pass. Not worth the fight or the precedent it sets. Pay 400 once and good luck ever getting her for less, ask for 300 and she shows up pissed off or flakes.[/QUOTE]The hot ones won't come down, and they are all covered usually because others are paying for them. If you don't go for the hottest looking ones, their price are inline with facebook. I saw the so-called stunners maybe 2 out of 5 trips. I met this one elsewhere but she works at Lleras. They can be flexible with price in my case. I consider these the A team because they do well financially. We go out and they will ask to pay for Uber and things. The price of the be team will be lower. She would come to my apartment before going to Lleras. They came, took my phone to the bathroom to take pictures. I know this girl usually go covered because I heard they were discussing condom. I don't negotiate anything with the second girl and the main girl negotiate everything for me.

Just to clarify something, I pay less for happy hour price. I am pretty sure these more popular girls won't stay later than 10 or 11 PM on weekdays, and earlier on weekend for what I paid. Some girls have better business sense and these are more flexible. They usually stay 2 hours or more.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3040007]Best to get your agreement in writing, notarized and witnessed and have a liquidated damage clause, all drafted by an attorney. And specify all the services she will perform. Never trust a hoor. Then they want the $$ up front and upsell after your pants are down and tell you extra for more than a simple hand job. Better to do only short time, the girl can pretend she has to leave early instead of staying all night, and be a real whiner if you don't let her run.[/QUOTE]No agreement necessary. Meet the girl, have sex and then you can just pay her what you want. She will do everything you want as if she has read your mind and agrees to everything. She will leave with a smile on her face or might turn it down saying she should be paying you for the pleasure that you are giving her. She will stay all night and then you will have to kick her out.

Midnight is Alborada.

You can go to Parque del Rio to see the Christmas lights If you are in Medellin this month.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;3040050]No agreement necessary. Meet the girl, have sex and then you can just pay her what you want. She will do everything you want as if she has read your mind and agrees to everything. She will leave with a smile on her face or might turn it down saying she should be paying you for the pleasure that you are giving her. She will stay all night and then you will have to kick her out.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that's funny shit well done.

I think there's a couple reasons some guys prefer to not make a deal beforehand. First is to feel like it's a regular date and they just choose to give a gift afterwards. Feels better than agreeing upfront to pay a girl for sex. These guys will still pay market rate but feel good about helping out the girls.

Second some guys are hoping to get away for cheap or free if it's possible. Maybe she's new to the game and will be afraid to ask afterwards. Maybe the guy has some sales skills and convinces her she will come out further ahead playing the long game. Or he can say he thought she liked him and it was free. Lots of ways to play it for the guy but also for the chica too. If she turns out to be an old pro at this game it can get ugly. And the police don't speak English.

Yeah in Thailand you might need to kick her out the next day. Not so much in Medellin jaja.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3040183]Hahaha that's funny shit well done.

I think there's a couple reasons some guys prefer to not make a deal beforehand. First is to feel like it's a regular date and they just choose to give a gift afterwards. Feels better than agreeing upfront to pay a girl for sex. These guys will still pay market rate but feel good about helping out the girls.

Second some guys are hoping to get away for cheap or free if it's possible. Maybe she's new to the game and will be afraid to ask afterwards. Maybe the guy has some sales skills and convinces her she will come out further ahead playing the long game. Or he can say he thought she liked him and it was free. Lots of ways to play it for the guy but also for the chica too. If she turns out to be an old pro at this game it can get ugly. And the police don't speak English.

Yeah in Thailand you might need to kick her out the next day. Not so much in Medellin jaja.[/QUOTE]I fondly remember the days before the Gringo invasion where you needed to kick them out the next day.