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[QUOTE=Turgid;3025949]It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3025966]I don't think its a big secret. A few years ago a lady I used to work with once told me she loves her vacations in Cabaretti DR. She was a life long single woman in her forties. Sorry probably mispelled that. Of course I played dumb to her face and showed no sign of knowing anything about the place, but had a good laugh to myself as soon as she walked away LOL.[/QUOTE]Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3026107]Why did you play dumb? I would have leaned into it. When I was in Cabarete last month me and my girl were eating at my favorite restaurant on the beach (El Pescador). This beautiful young White chick was all over the host saying how it was her last night in town. I told him so you are a sanky panky (guy who gets paid from foreign women) huh? He swore he was not and that he was just the host of the restaurant. The next day when we went to the restaurant I asked him if he ended up getting with that chick and he said no. I said man you dropped the ball on that one. She was all over you like stank on shit.[/QUOTE]Not a good look for me at work if people know that I know all the sex tourist locations LOL.
[QUOTE=Stl24;2988863]Just curious, where did you pull a chica from at that time of day? Just curious because I am going to be looking around that time as well. Wasn't sure if the ladies were out Parque Lleras yet.[/QUOTE]I'm currently here and I've seen some as early as 4 pm at parque lleras, maybe 10-15 of them.
I am yet to try Centro for a quickie.
Can some kind soul please recommend one or two clean ST hotels near Veracruz church and also let me know the approx cost of room and girl for media hora? Muchas Gracius.
Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.
One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.
Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:
Not displaying expensive belongings in public.
Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.
Being aware of your surroundings.
However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.
[URL]https://two.travel/medellin-colombia-safe[/URL]
In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.
Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026166]Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.
One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists....
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Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).[/QUOTE]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).
In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3025949]It is not widely known but the Dominican Republic is a hotbed for female American sex tourists.[/QUOTE]In Sosua it's mostly Canadian women, I've seen and know quite a few.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3025918]All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.[/QUOTE]Go to Comuna 13 and there are hundreds of tourists there every day. If you haven't been it's a great way to spend the day.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).
In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]And it's probably more dangerous for guys that share our hobby than your typical tourist.
That said, if you take the normal precautions (often discussed on this site), you'll likely be fine.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
[/QUOTE]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?
I only look for women in brothels or as we say "casas" so I'm not worried about the drinks with drugs added.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3025918]All it takes is a single stroll through Provenza. What do you see, 60%+ of older (30+) couples (either locals or mostly foreigners on vacation). Younger folks, harder to tell of course. People who are here for the food, nightlife, country, and fun. That's just the main area. Then you have all kinds of eco-tourism (see how many tours there are online for sale). There are over half a dozen motorcycle rental companies focused on tourists (Colombia is a motorcycle riders dream). Etc. The food / restaurant / nightlife alone is a great bargain for those visiting the country; the country is beautiful to explore, the restaurant choices continue to expand, etc. There is a ton of tourism that continues to grow and guess what, spends way more locally than any monger.[/QUOTE]If mongers weren't the bold trailblazers of destinations that get negative propaganda, those tourists you mention would likely be too afraid to even go Colombia to begin with. Mongers are the ones who made some of these places popular to travel to. And if they move their focus elsewhere, so will the attention of everyone else, due to exposure and hype via vlogs.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).
In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]Like yourself I arrived in 2010 and have seen the changes for the worse. My only savings grace is that I am not on the hunt for P4P given I am now 15 years older and probably most importantly is that I have a stable of young, fresh, non-pros who need some help from time to time and my selection is honed into vetting only the simply incredible lovers that after a few years have earned my trst, again it takes years.
Half are single mothers and the other half just normal Paisa chicas enjoying some spending money so they can spend on things like their Colombian boyfriends.
Trust no one and don't get a Paisa GF, trust me on this. You have no idea how deceptive two-faced they are UNTIL you have been "the backdoor man", "the "other man", you have no idea.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026209]A couple comments:
1) This conversation has been occuring for as long as I've been coming to Medellin. 2011, so 15 years.
2) While Tinder and clubs are the major source of crime, 'normal' girls can get you too. I was actually scoped by a non-pro girl on a 3rd date. It was Bumble, so maybe not too much better than Tinder LOL, but is known for being a more professional dating app. Also, I think most drugging is ketamine, and not scopolamine (perhaps minor difference, but wish to clarify).
In short, even if you're trying to date 'normal' girls you are at risk, and many would argue that you are at even more risk.[/QUOTE]How did a non-pro scope you? So you are not paying and dating her for 3rd time and she scoped you?
That is expected though.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026166]Myth 1: Medellin is still unsafe for tourists and travelers.
One of the most persistent myths about Medellin is that it remains unsafe for tourists. While it's true that the city struggled with high crime rates and security issues in the past, Medellin has made significant strides in improving its security situation. For instance, Medellin, through the Colombian government, demobilized significant guerrilla groups and implemented security reforms. As a result, Medellin is recognized as one of the most progressive and safer cities in Latin America, with a thriving tourism industry.
Like any major city, visitors need to take appropriate precautions and follow basic safety guidelines, such as:
Not displaying expensive belongings in public.
Avoiding dangerous neighborhoods.
Being aware of your surroundings.
However, overall, Medellin is now considered safe and welcoming for tourists and those traveling to Medellin Colombia, with increased police presence in tourist areas and low crime rates.
In November 2023, foreign tourists were often held up on the street at gun point in broad daylight in good neighbourhoods. There were often cases where a motorcycle and a pair of men were involved. One guy drove the motorcycle, the other guy hopped off, drew his gun, robbed you, hopped back on and the motorcycle sped off.
Has that all disappeared? (I am not concerned about scopolamine. I don't intend to use tinder or visit nightclubs.).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026291]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?[/QUOTE]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.
Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.
I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.
"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:
Other benzos.
Alcohol.
Opioids.
Barbiturates.
The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".
Stay safe out there!
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026291]I understand that. And two years ago there was a serious problem with armed robbery of tourists. Like you'll go out in the middle of the day to buy a loaf of bread and find yourself staring down the barrel of a handgun held by a maniac. So I'm simply asking: Are things about the same now as two years ago or has there been a dramatic improvement and today this is unheard of?[/QUOTE]There was? I was in Medellin four times in 2023 (same as '22 and 24' I did buy many a loaf of bread (I recommend AlePan Panadera Alemana) and wandered all over, I never stared down any barrels. Sure, some idiots playing with their iPhone on a corner had someone snatch it I'm sure, and I do know of one guy who was robbed while walking late at night in a dark street from Provenza in '23. But nothing as a 'serious problem' as you describe. Personally, I am more concerned late at night in Baltimore, Miami or San Juan than I am in Medellin. Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'. Don't be a target and you will be fine. Personally, I think crime is a little lower now because of a lower number of 'extremely desperate' homeless Venezuelan, at least I'm running into a lot less desperates begging at every corner like I was encountering in 22/23.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3026566]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.
Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.
I don't think ketamine is used more frequently than scopolomine. It is likely a combination of benzos in many instances.
"Benzos alone rarely cause fatal overdoses. But when combined with:
Other benzos.
Alcohol.
Opioids.
Barbiturates.
The central nervous system depression can become life-threatening. ".
Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]The drug being used is Clonazepam NOT scopolamine. Scopolamine was used years ago but hardly ever used anymore, Clonazepam is easier to obtain as it is available in any farmacia.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3026576]There was? Of course there is crime in Medellin, like any city of its size, but nothing that to me seems to bubble up to a 'serious problem'.[/QUOTE]Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.
[URL]https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery[/URL]
Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.
This is the part that really scares me. If I get jacked for a laptop, phone or some cash it's not the end of the world because any of that is easily replaced. God forbid someone slips me a mickey that is badly mixed or triggers an allergic reaction because you don't necessarily know if you can recover from that. It could be the end, as we've seen from time to time.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3026566]I have seen several videos just within the last month of gringos (albeit idiots flashing jewelry, phones, etc.) being robbed at gun point in tourist areas like Calle 10 in Poblado (Parque Lleras) and Provenza. There was just an older wealthy Colombian robbed at gunpoint in El Poblado for his watch. Daily, there are videos of armed robberies of customers and businesses throughout the city. This is nothing new, and I highly doubt increased tourism is what is going to curtail it. I'm not sure if ChatGPT / Grok will do a good job, but you should try to follow some local non-mainstream media accounts on Instagram, etc. It's quite eye-opening. Start with these: prensapaisaoficial qhubomedallo. You should start getting recommendations to follow similar accounts, after that.
Spanish will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Street smarts will not protect you from these situations, but it will help. Blending in and not flaunting belongings will not protect you from these situations, but it will help.[/QUOTE]
I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).
Thanks
If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3026830]I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3026857]If there was only a thread dedicated to this. Hmmmmmm. Where would I find it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3026830]I'm happy to pay a service fee, but I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel with good security. (They keep the girl's passport until she leaves.).Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3026616]Maybe I misunderstood, however my strong impression at that time was that people were very concerned about armed robberies on the street in tourist areas.
[URL]https://www.medellinadvisors.com/crime-in-medellin-data-update-2023-mid-year/#Medellins_Tourist_Neighbourhoods_Continue_to_be_Hotspots_of_Robbery[/URL]
Statistically, if you are there for a week or two, chances are that you will not be a victim however you might be. What I did is I did my shopping around 9:00 am. I think criminals sleep late. Beyond that I took an Uber door to door from my airbnb to a casa.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.
I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026981]Just a heads up that crime against foreigners is way underreported in Medellin. Two reasons, 1) It's a pain in the ass to a report a crime and very few solved, 2) Many guys crimes against mongers are in compromised situations and they don't want girlfriends or wives to find out.
I was told the above by state police when I reported my crime. A big reason for me doing so was a record for insurance.[/QUOTE]Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.
Being sarcastic.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3026962]Hmmmmmmm? How about the ISG User Blog titled "Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments" with 1,514 reports and counting?
To give Toastmonger69 the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was being ironic----and, in his own way, advising ObjJay to RTFF.[/QUOTE]
I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom!
You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027209]I've been to Medellin over 20 times in the past 3 years. I have never been a victim of crime. However, I got message from China from Tinder that I like to bang when I returned home. I was videoed walking with a chica to a short time hotel. She asked if I used a condom![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3027376]You completely confused me with this message. I'm not sure what happened or whether something happened. I hope you will be OK.[/QUOTE]I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027430]I am sorry for the confusion. What I was saying is that someone used their phone to record me taking a chica to short time hotel. I did. Not know this happened until I received a what's app message from a Tinder girl that had a clip that was posted on social media. It was a weird experience.[/QUOTE]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?
I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.
Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3027486]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?[/QUOTE]I was targeted.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.
Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.
Thanks![/QUOTE]First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.
Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.
Thanks![/QUOTE]No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies[/QUOTE]Yeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel?[/QUOTE]If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US…However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! ![/QUOTE]
I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3027566]No, I don't think so. They have clubs in Medellin like Gusto's but it is very expensive. The girls will ask for $300 US dollars and everything is takeout. You are better off in the park which is much better than the street scene in Tijuana and more upscale. If you want something like Tijuana the place to go is El Centro.[/QUOTE]Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, ..... My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.
Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).
Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.
Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.
First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027584]If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.[/QUOTE]Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.
I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.
You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.
I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.
I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.
On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:
1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off [URL]seeking.com[/URL] The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.
2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.
II. Other considerations.
1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.
2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.
3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.
III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.
Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.
Best FKK Clubs:
I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.
II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.
III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]I've never traveled to another country to monger, pretty much just did my thing in the US, I thought the amount I paid outweighed the cheaper prices outside of the US when you include travel expenses. However, a friend convinced me to take a trip to Hong Kong in Tijuana last year and it blew my mind. After several trips there, we want to explore the more exotic looking ladies of Columbia as you must be Mexican to work in Hong Kong, love the Mexican ladies but Columbian women range from blonde, blue eyed barbies to hot chocolate goddesses, the latter, aside from a few exceptions in a few other clubs in Tijuana, you will not get in Mexico. My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia? I've been reading but haven't seen any reference to any particular spots. Is it mostly small bars / clubs and / or online? What about bringing guests to your hotel? I've seen mixed responses regarding this. Also, what city if best for first time visitors? Basically, I don't know WTF I'm doing so I need some help! We are planning on traveling either Nov or Jan. Any help would be appreciated, also feel free to message me.
Feel free to check my contributions on the USA guide, same username.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027650]Clubs in Medellin like Hong Kong in Tijuana are Barra Ejecutiva, Hilton Grill, Conejitas, Fase 2, etc. Go in, chicks all around, some dancing on stage, you can sit and drink with them, you can take them to the room and fuck them. In Medellin they all open towards the evening whereas I think Hong Kong opens about 11 am.[/QUOTE]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.
Those videos are a good reason to stay the fuck away from Parque Lleras if your personal circumstances could cause you to have to explain your appearance in the background. There are less responsible youtubers who say any crazy shit to get clicks. By crazy shit I mean describing the place as a public version of Epstein island and all sorts of other outlandish stuff.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3027486]Do you mean one of this 'walkaround parque Lleras' videos that they constantly post on youtube? Or were you specifically targeted?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027706]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.[/QUOTE]This may be the place you have in mind.
A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.
Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.
However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.
I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.
The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027706]Heading back to Medellin at end of year. What's the name of that one after hours club. It was near San Diego Club. Was kind of like a castle dungeon with bricked hallways and stair cases and I think it even has a door that was bars like a jail house door. I can't remember the name, been a few since I was in Colombia. I tried looking for it on google but it didn't show up.[/QUOTE]Not sure which you are thinking of but...
La Isla has an after hours club next door.
Fase II has an after hours club next door.
Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.
Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3027802]Not sure which you are thinking of but...
La Isla has an after hours club next door.
Fase II has an after hours club next door.
Palmahia has a variety of clubs (near Itagui off the highway / Regional), I would recommend going with a local or a group.
Just south of Palmahia's clubs is Fahrenheit.[/QUOTE]El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3027838]El Faisan. It was very good when I went a few years ago. Very good for a club you could go to after 5 am La Isla and Fase 2 much better, but its a good last hurray spot if your having one of those nights.[/QUOTE]I no doubt just arrived way too early for an after-hours joint to be open. I checked. The address I listed for El Faisan is only one block from San Diego Show Night Club.
Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!
Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.
Taco.
[QUOTE=Lofter;3025608]I land on a Wednesday morning from the southeastern coast of the states. Was a 3. 5 hour flight and immigration wasn't that bad of a wait either. Checked into my Airbnb around noon and spent some time filling up the fridge with goods from a local grocery store, this really warmed me up to the steep hills of Poblado.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027910]Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!
Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.
Taco.[/QUOTE]It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3027939]It's a vacation spot and has no scene to speak of. Hence no reports.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about Medellin.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027974]I'm talking about Medellin.[/QUOTE]Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3027910]Leaving Santa Marta tomorrow (yawn) and going back to MDE for the first time this year. Decided to RTFF and only found one report over the last 10 pages and nobody even commented on it!
Lofter, thanks for sharing and sorry about your string of bad luck at the end. #gross.
Taco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the acknowledgment, there weren't many reports for I when doing research as well.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3027978]Well, that was spectacularly unclear, given the comment about ten pages with no reports. What are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Well if you looked at the report I quoted, you would see it referenced a report from MDE. The only one in 3 weeks?
Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.
Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!
So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.
I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.
Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer.
I spotted a little brown thing, not wearing a bra and clearly having some beautiful titties. As I walked up to say Hello, I could tell she was a bit older. We chatted for a bit and I asked her how much money she wanted and she said 50,000 pesos. ($12.50) for a half hour. Which was fine, but then we talked a little bit more and I asked her if she gives blowjobs without a condom and then she immediately went into making that an additional charge. And then she made a comment saying that if I behave well, she will behave well. Which was such a turn off. I could tell that she was going to be difficult so I wished her a good night and moved on. She also looked much older than the 22 she said.
I went maybe 20 yards further and I spotted this cutie sitting with her friends at a little table and I wasn't sure if she was working, but she had that beautiful fluffy Brazilian hair and a slender waist. She was wearing a bikini top that was showing off her little sport boobs and I knew I had to give it a try if I could get her attention. She eventually turned my way and I fingered her to come over and she did. And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. We chatted it up for a bit. I asked her what she was looking for and she said 60,000 pesos for an hour. ($15.50).
I asked her if she knew a good motel and she mentioned one nearby, that I knew of, but I pretended that I didn't. So we walked up to the Zona Rosa motel and they charge 17,000 pesos for an hour. ($4). And that includes a condom. Room was fine. Bed looked clean but I always lay down my towel.
We get into the room and we are just talking up a storm. She's telling me that she's been in Laureles this evening and then she went to Poblado and now she's down her in el centero. So she does her rounds. It took her a while to get her comfortable with me, but she eventually did and she was making amazing eye contact. She's a taurus and I joked around and asked her if she gets emotional and cries a lot, and she admitted that she does and asked how I knew that. I told her I'm really into astrology.
I also asked if she had a boyfriend and she finally admitted that she does and that she's been together with him for three years.
Anyway, she did not hesitate getting naked and her titties were earth shattering fantastic. She was quite hesitant on doing the bareback blow job and I told her to just relax and I was going to take good care of her. After going back-and-forth a little bit, she finally went with it and she sucked my dick for the longest time. I had to tell her it was time to move on.
I could also tell she was a little bit congested and I asked her if she had a cold. She said no I'm doing Tussie. That's the synthetic pink cocaine. Anyways, I could tell her energy was that much better because of it. Haha.
Eventually, I knew I had to have her on top of me because we were only going to be together for an hour and I was hoping to get two nuts out of her.
So I tell her to get on top of me and straddle me but no sex and she does exactly that and her pussy is soft and wet and she is just sliding my rock hard dick against her. And of course she starts gently moaning which is just turning me on even more. I explode all over myself with that camel sliding. Just glorious.
We cleaned up with my baby wipes and I put down 150,000 pesos ($37) to make her comfortable with our time so far. She thought I was ready to go and I told her we have an hour and she took off her bikini top and took another bump of Tussi. She even offered me some. How kind.
For the next 20 minutes we just chatted and then I asked her if she was ready for round two and I just stood up and she was on the edge of the bed and she just started sucking me off until I got hard again. I did some more camel sliding, but I could tell that she was a little hesitant on me sliding it in so I told her I wanted her to lay down on her back and she was ready to go. I slid it in and we went at it for quite a while. I could feel my nut coming on and I wanted to get another good one so a little bit may have slipped inside, but I pulled out and got the rest on her stomach.
Overall, a great girl. Super nice with good energy and a great smile and perfect teeth. Not a whole lot of tattoos. I think about three big ones and a few crappy small ones. She told me she had her first tattoo when she was 13. I insisted that she doesn't get any more tattoos or bigger tits that she wanted.
I also Insisted on taking a few photos of her and told her she needed to visit me at my apartment. We exchanged numbers and I gave her some extra money. I think she'the be a lot of fun to see again. I think she likes bondage as well.
Great start to the trip!
Taco.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.
Anyways, since I had already popped one and a half generic Cialis pills, I was not going to be able to take a nap. I needed to engage plan be!
So, I packed my Daypack with my usual supplies. Baby wipes, deodorant, a towel, and my knock off cell phone in case I get robbed.
I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. It's always an enjoyable walk because it's straight downhill. All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed. But still so many people just walk out of downtown because they can't even afford a subway. But there were so many thin good looking girls on the street. And they all looked right through me haha. Very few made any eye contact at all.
Anyways, after a wrong turn, I made it down to Plaza Botero and I started doing a loop after I got a second small beer..[/QUOTE]Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]Well, after landing and rushing around to try and get everything done and prepared for my massage hottie to visit and have an earth shattering massage for 90 minutes, which would include two blowjobs, she canceled about one hour before she was supposed to arrive. I was supremely disappointed as that was my highlight of the month haha.
Great start to the trip!
Taco.[/QUOTE]Nice report Bro! Now this is what we want to see when we check in this forum every time a new report.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]And that's how I met Maria Jose from Manriquez. 18 years old, No Kids. [/QUOTE]Fantastic report. That's how you make a connection that later becomes a regular. Good deal!
I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.
[QUOTE=Nottymrme;3028107]Nice report! How do you verify age? How can you be sure ID is real?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]I did the 22 minute walk down to plaza Botera. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028185]I didn't. But if you're in the game long enough, you can tell who the minors are down there. Its very easy.[/QUOTE]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028226]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.[/QUOTE]You can tell the age difference between 18 and just under 18? Some 20 year old in centro have been living in centro for more than 5 years but that is not exclusive to working girls in centro.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028209]Thanks for the report. Were you there in the late afternoon, or early evening?[/QUOTE]Best time to be down there is 4-8 pm, in my opinion. Of course things pick up toward the end of the month with bills due and Christmas time brings out a lot of girls that normally don't work down there.
The area is actually a lot better than it was a year ago. The bars near the plaza have expanded with tables in the courtyard now. Perfect for a beer and checking out the girls. Even saw some other melanine deprived gringos there after dark haha.
Taco.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028226]Exactly. They are the ones with the Minnie mouse shirts and teenage clothes in general. Amazing how many guys can not tell a kid from an adult. Should I even be surprised though since I guess an equal amount claim not to be able to tell a dude with a wig and makeup from a female.[/QUOTE]The giveaways for me, besides the clothes and looks, are minors work in pairs, suck on lollipops, and can't carry a conversation. There's also one motel on 53 where they mostly hangout. So I dodge that place.
Spanish helps a lot, fellas.
Taco.
I've been to all of the spas in Rio Sur mall. This one has always been the best for a solid massage and a menu of extras.
I reached out and my favorite chica doesn't work there anymore but I moved forward and chose Marcela via WhatsApp. (Didn't ask for pictures).
Garage has a nice massage room but Marcela was about a 6 in looks. Shame as Luisa, my old favorite, was about an 8. Massage, as expected was VERY good and she took the whole hour. HJ was nice and she popped out her nice tits. She was pushing for a body to body massage but I declined. Not attracted.
Prices went up since 2024. Massage is now 160 k and Marcela expected 120 k more for her "work". Pricey but I can't live in el Centro every day haha.
They have a good shower to use after. Always take your stuff with you.
When leaving, I got a glimpse of the other therapist. Also not attractive.
Might just be a good spot for a legit massage.
Taco.
The swing bar at the Haven hotel, do girls hang out there to be picked up?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027008]Even in the States. A gay friend of mine was drugged and robbed by some people he thought were his friends. I got in contact with a detective that I knew and his advice was to just be thankful that he is still alive.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/09/24/tabitha-bundrick-accused-of-murdering-3-manhattan-men-with-fentanyl-during-10-month-robbery-spree/[/URL]
Hey Guys,
Planning my first trip and I've been RTFF religiously. My spanish is not the best, but I'm probably going to be fine if I just look online for english speaking people off Seeking, use the apps, etc. - however, I'm curious, is there a bad sentiment towards Asian people? Asking out of curiosity and primarily safety, thanks.
Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.
[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420]Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]Nobody cares how you look. For English your mileage will vary widely unless it is someone in the tourist industry.
[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420] are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.
[QUOTE=BluePillow;3028420]Not to double post, but are there spots to easily find English speaking chicas? Or is it just YMMV.[/QUOTE]You will find very few chicas in Medellin who speak English. Most of them will be patient with you if you are trying to speak Spanish. They will help you if you can speak a little.
So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.
I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months. The place is starting to look like Las Vegas or Cancun. My Lord. There were a lot of women. And not many guys. I struck up a conversation with a gal from Bello and invited her to dinner (I kinda liked the instant dinner date option). She was good company, but I wasn't interested in pursuing anything after dinner. She quoted 350 k for an hour and 100 K for a nearby hotel room. No thanks.
After ditching her, I made it to a liquor store bar on the opposite side of the park. Opposite of gusto. It's there I met "Irish John". Some of you guys may know him. He's a regular in Poblado and wow, he was a ton of fun to talk to. He was telling me that he met his 26 year old girlfriend in Santa Fe mall when he was in line at frisby chicken. He simply gave her his business card and she messaged him not long after. She is stunning. He is doing very well for 67 years old. They've been together for three years. He jokes around and tells people that she's too old for him. Haha.
We talked about a lot of things, but one of his other interesting stories was how he did get scoped a few years back. It was also a chica that he met in the mall and they had been on five dates together. She eventually came over to his house and scoped his coffee. She took a lot of his valuables, but he was able to track his laptops down with the help of some off duty police officers. He knows he was lucky that he wasn't killed by the drug. But he has a very high tolerance.
After that, I took another stroll through the Park. At least 4-1 women at midnight and definitely more slender women than on bumble and tinder. Careful with the minors. They are also in the Parque Lleras mix and the police don't seem to care that they are there. I thought the police use to check cedulas upon entering that area but that's not the case anymore and with it being redesigned a lot of girls arrive packed into cabs. Looked like a clown car with how many 304's would come out of one small yellow taxi.
Taco.
A couple of years ago a neighbor in my building who teaches French invited me to be a guest gringo at his language school. I was really surprised how little knowledge of English some of the Colombian English instructors had. When I naively asked my host why they don't have any native English speakers teaching English, he asked me if I would be willing to do it for 2 million pesos per month. It all made sense after that.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3028501]Rare. Possibly near the Universities there may be some English spoken, but most of those girls are not bad girls looking to fuck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028634]
Taco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for updates, I'm excited to be there in few days.
QQ, where can we get kinky fantasies fulfilled? Nothing too crazy like BDSM but stuff I am assuming a regular lleras girl wouldn't do necessarily.
Are there any casas or clubs for these. Stuff like DT, AR, facial etc.
Greetings all,
On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.
This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:
If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?
This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.
How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]Greetings all,
I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.
How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.
I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Butch145;3028655]I have arrived a few times that late, hopefully no immigration delay. ATM machine on premises.
I use taxi outside showing taxi. Usually its around 120,000 pesos. You could alway exchange in USA at the airport. I would check withe cellphone company, I use verizon and it works fine in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Ok, great, I was mostly concerned about the money, but any ATM will do, just to get engough to get into a Taxi.
I've been looking at buying a colombian SIM card on eBay, they're not expensive and I would get cell phone service right of the plane, however I've been looking at youtube videos that show how to activate the SIM cards in Colombia and all of them show that you have to input a cedula number. Is that the new norm? How does someone who's not from Colombia get a local cell phone number now?
Thanks for answering.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027584]Yeah if you saw this then it was from some dye and contact lenses. Colombia is not Scandinavia.
If you are asking either of these questions then you have not been reading very much.[/QUOTE]Damn, I just came for some help. I've been reading but posts are all over the place. Thanks for your lack of help. It's a damn shame because I'm helped dozens, probably hundreds of guys who needed assistance in my town (Vegas). Didn't just say f you, go read. BTW, my "blonde" comment was just commenting on the diversity of looks with Colombian women.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3027774]This may be the place you have in mind.
A month or two ago, a chica from Fase II who visits me from time to time and a friend of hers were chatting about a nearby, after hours club in that area called El Faisan where they had had a good time the night before.
Feeling curious, a little after midnight one Thursday or Friday night, I took an Uber there to check it out. The address pops up in Google Maps as el faisan night club, CL 36 #46-8, La Candelaria.
However, we arrived at a totally darkened corner building with no signage in an (at night) totally deserted neighborhood of warehouse / commercial buildings.
I've no idea if we somehow missed a well-hidden entrance, or we arrived too early, or the Uber map took us to the wrong location, or the joint was temporarily or permanently closed.
The experience brought to mind the classic Seinfeld episode where George mysteriously ends up very brieflly alone in a warehouse club stacked full of super models all of whom drool over him and when he tries to return only finds a meatpacking plant in the same location.[/QUOTE]Thank you bro, if you are ever visit Vegas, let me know.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3027676]Yes. And he did not even learn that Columbia is the District of Washington, but Medellin is in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?
How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3027564]First you need ti learn it's Colombia, NO you in it. Need to research more. I would not advise going alone first time.[/QUOTE]That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:
If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?[/QUOTE]There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3028691]That LAST thing I'm concerned about is the correct spelling of that country, especially on this site, I'm sure I will before I travel there. But thanks for the advice and I do not plan on traveling solo. I'm doing my research, I'm just used to the USA site where someone new would ask questions and he was given lots of info. I see it's not quite like that here on the Intl side.[/QUOTE]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3028896]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.[/QUOTE]I dictate my post all the time and I use the word Colombia when I dictate Android constantly spells it Columbia. In fact I am dictating now and saying the word Colombia and you can see how it comes out. I know how to spell the word Colombia the country correctly but sometimes it's a hassle to correct the spellings of Colombia especially for a website like this. Guys constantly misspelled words or make grammatical errors all the time. Misspelling Colombia is not a big deal. I'm going to finish dictating this post without correcting the spelling of Colombia so you can see how it turns out when I say the word Columbia and use dictation. I mean I could go back and correct all the spellings but it's such a hassle and everyone knows what I'm referring to. This is not a term paper. This is a mongering website.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028698]There will probably be an exchange booth open as late as flights arrive. If not, I think there is a Bancolumbia ATM on the arrival level. You need to walk a little way toward the national side of the terminal to find it. There are numerous ATM's on the departure level. Go up the escalator just outside the arrival area. ATM's are near the escalator, along the wall away from the street. I don't think any stores that sell sim cards will be open. Any form that asks for cedula number, I select cedula de extranjero (or something similar) and enter my passport number. The last sim card I purchased was from a little store and I didn't have to register it.[/QUOTE]Ok great! Thank you for the information!
[QUOTE=Dac007;3028688]Sorry, didn't realize typo's were such a big deal. BTW, WTF is the "District of Washington"? I've heard of "District of Columbia", "Washington DC", "DC" but not "District of Washington"?How have you not learned that? See how that works when you come at someone for a simple error.[/QUOTE]I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.
(...) If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?[/QUOTE]1) Never use exchange boots in airports, unless it's an emergency option, or you want to use only cash to not leave traces of your visit to Colombia with family in your bank statement. The best way to get cash abroad is via ATM, because even including fees and the mark up on the exchange rate you will save a lot of money. Two tips:
A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COP (the limit at Servibanca is normally 720k, while 600k or even 300k at other banks). You will need all that cash if you come to play.
B) NEVER select the option to use the conversion rate suggested by the ATM at first: it's a robbery. Choose to withdraw COP leaving to VISA/Mastercard whatever to make the conversion.
2) If your phone is newer than, say, 2021, it should allow you to install an eSIM. It will change your life when travelling. Yes, it is a bit more expensive than a physical SIM bought on place, but its ease of using is priceless. You install it before flying, and if you did everything right you will be online as soon as you turn your phone on after landing.
If you don't want or cannot use an eSIM, then buy it on site. The problem is that in Bogota there are stores that sell you a SIM also after midnight, but based on what I remember there are no such stores open at night in the Medellin airport. You will have to wait the next day. Go to a store in a mall.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028634]So my evening date flaked out, due to her crazy dad not allowing her to go out. So I just decided to have a random adventure to Park Lleras.
I arrived about 830 and took a stroll through the park. It's amazing how much has changed in 18 months.[/QUOTE]Only 18 months? When did that happen?
I went back there after COVID one year ago, and I was shocked by seeing the change after my last visit before 2020.
One of the most upscale areas in Medellin, with good restaurants, bars, nightlife, and of course girls but high tier, transformed in a puteria crowded by the same type of girls that walk around the Centro, who mass migrate there at night, but changing the price from 50 k to 500 k because of the location. Gosh. I ran away.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028978]1)A) Use the Servibanca ATM (the green one) because it is the only one who allows foreigners to withdraw up to 2.000.000 COP[/QUOTE]Davivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3028648]Greetings all,
On October 28th I will be arriving in MDE after more than 5 years, my flight arrives at midnight, first time that I arrive into MDE in the middle of the night.
This puts me in a new situation, I am guessing that most of the stores in the airport are going to be closed at midnight, but I am just guessing, so my question for you guys is:
If any of you guys have arrived at this time, do you know if the money exchange places are open? Also, a store were I can buy a SIM card?
This has me worried because I won't have any local currency for a taxis and no local cell phone and internet services.
How would you guys handle this? Any input would be very appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can use an ATM at the airport. Tell your bank before hand that you are travelling so your card does not get blocked. You can also buy pesos at your bank before you leave the exchange rate will not be great.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028976]Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.[/QUOTE]To be fair, Columbia is simply the English version of Colombia. I mean nobody goes around ranting to English speakers that it is Cristobal Colon, not Christopher Columbus. Likewise, there are no souvenirs in airports in Brazil saying It is BRASIL, not Brazil.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3028987]Davivienda bank also allows withdrawals of 2,000,000 COP. Every Servibanca ATM I've used dispenses only 100,000 or 50,000 notes when withdrawing 2,000,000. Davivienda dispenses a mixture of 100,000, 50,000, 20,000, and 10,000. ATM fee at Servibanca is 22,500, Davivienda is 26,000.[/QUOTE]Chapeau! I surrender.
I only note that I would never like to receive 10k, 20k, even 50k when I withdraw 2 millions... :-)
I try to get only 100k.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028995]
I try to get only 100k.[/QUOTE]It depends. I got 100 mil bills in 3 of the last 5 withdraws I made at Davivienda. 1 withdraw only allow 800 and I got all 20 mil bill. One I got all 50 mil bills.
The problem I have with Servibanca machines is that they are not reliable. Probably more than half the times that I was not able to withdraw money from the same ATM that had worked before.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3028976]I see you did not get that I had downgraded my terminology on purpose for someone who does not know that this is Colombia. Should I have written a tautology "Columbia is the District of Columbia"? Or have been less elliptical with "Columbia is the the name of the District, where Washington, Capital of the United States of America, is located"?
Columbia is not a typo. It's a typical way of saying by US folks who do not care to learn where they go outside USA. There are NO other words that can make Colombian people more upset. They even sell hats and shirt at the airport, with written in large letters "It's Colombia, not COLUMBIA!" under the flag.[/QUOTE]It was, as I was not typing, I was using my phone to dictate the message, don't have the time to use the phone keyboard to type. Spell check is on but it's not smart enough to understand I'm referring to Columbia, not Colombia. I guess I should apologize to all of the good people of Columbia!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3028896]It's not the spelling mistake itself, it shows that you have come on here asking questions without doing enough research because if you did then you would know the correct spelling.[/QUOTE]As I mentioned to the other guy that had a fit over the misspelling, I was dictating via my phone, as I do with all messages, posts and texts. AI is not yet advanced enough to read my mind and understand that I'm referring to Colombia, not Columbia.
[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3027677]I was in your situation before my first Medellin visit. You should be ok if you take the necessary precautions. If your Spanish is good, it will help a lot.
You would probably enjoy the Casas like Loutron, New life, Amigas sexii. The fun thing about Medellin is that non pros and "Semi-pros" will put out also and the sex is much better with these ones.
I've only been to Barra Ejuctiva, which would be like one of the smaller clubs in HK- I'd say between Chicago on a good night and HK on a regular night. Fase 2 gets good reviews.
I. I suggest you read "reports of distinction" and the "hotels and apts" fourm.
On where to stay. I'd do it one of two ways:
1. Get a a dope place like Energy living off Airbnb. The bar below gives you a chance to get a drink and chat with the girl if you get one off [URL]seeking.com[/URL] The door man checks ID and takes the girls picture. That still isn't 100% since she can just steal someone else ID but is a good deterrent.
2. Get a hotel or a place without security for cheaper but don't bring girls back there that are pros. Instead rent a "fucking air Bnb" with security near parque Lleras to bring all the cum dumps to.
II. Other considerations.
1. Take the time to talk to civilian girls (non pros) if your spanish is somewhat decent. You'd be surprised. I found a nice "Semi pro" 23 why / o on a hire a local tour guide website. She's now in Switzerland probably getting porked by one of you fkrs LOL. Hooters girls were definitely within reach.
2. You can buy straws that change color if a drink is spiked from CVS or online. In general don't have drinks around these girls if you are alone. Also if you see one on a more regular basis- don't tell her exactly when you are leaving. There have been some reports of longer term chicas cleaning a dude out because they knew it would be the last time they would see him in a while. Keep it open and ambiguous.
3. Take Uber everywhere. Cabs can rip you off at best or get you setup to be robbed at worst. Cabs should be the last option.
III. If you are looking for a place like HK in the world try the Sauna Clubs in Europe. There are threads on that. In fact, I'd do the Sauna clubs if I were you before CULO-ombia. Go on the website called upgraded points dot com and learn how to travel for pennnies on the dollar with points. It will take you a few months, you can also pay for a pro consultation to speed up the learning curve. That should take care of the flight and hotel costs when you travel.
Yes it will cost more in Europe so find a way to make some extra cash. It will cost slightly more than HK ironically. Before Covid FKK clubs were cheaper than HK.
Best FKK Clubs:
I. Sharks in Dramsdat / Frankfurt-- lot of variety with European, Latina, African and even Turkish girls.
II. Globe in Switzerland--fun to do public sex on the spot. You can sit there and get a BJ on the spot.
III. Wellcum in Austria- Hit or miss but decent. For your purposes the most similar to HK since they have a hotel onsite.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this is very helpful!
[QUOTE=Mexidan;3027599]I suggest trying San Jose, Costa Rica first. Girls on site, plenty of English spoken, can you can meet up easily with other mongers who can show you the ropes. Medellin is more intermediate monger level.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica is our backup. My buddy has been there.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027664]I'm mostly concurring with Mr. International. Adding a bit more color.
Clubs. Suggest: Fase II, La Isla, Barra Ejecutiva. In that order. Not because it's best to worst, but because I think that's closer to Hong Kong (I only went 2 x though).
Guests. Need to read the forum and check with the hotel. Those near Parque Lleras tend to be more open, but will take the girls ID and charge a guest fee after first girl.
Blondes. Not sure where you got this impression, but I've seen many more blondes in Mexico (mostly Mexico City) than anywhere in Colombia. If you really like blondes then go to the south of Brazil.
First time. Suggest trying Costa Rica first (San Jose, Jaco), but if set on Colombia I'd do Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Costa Rica is our backup plan, my buddy has been there before. As for the blonde comments, I'm just going by why I see on camsites, IG and X. I see a lot of Colombian women with blonde hair. Maybe they are in a certain region or perhaps bleaching hair has become more popular recently.
I would like to apologize to all of those who got their panties in a bunch over my posts which used the word Columbia. I'm typing this on my PC, instead of what I normally do which is using the phone to dictate messages, posts, texts, etc. You know like just about everybody does. I live in the US so naturally it's going to use Columbia, not Colombia when dictating.
I came here simply seeking information, not to argue over something as insignificant as the misspelling of a foreign country. A "Hey it's Colombia, not Columbia, here's some info" message would have been cool.
I just started using the Intl site last year, have been on the US site for about 20 years. There, at least in my area, we remembered when we were green and helped new users find information, did encourage them to research but did not rudely turn them away and provided them some info.
I expected the information to much easier to get here since it's a foreign country for most and things are totally different when it comes to mongering, the US is pretty much the same everywhere with a few variations by region. And since their laws are different, I though info would be free flowing.
Oh well, I guess I'll search other resources online.
Thanks to those who were willing to share info, it is truly appreciated!
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028262]Best time to be down there is 4-8 pm, in my opinion. Of course things pick up toward the end of the month with bills due and Christmas time brings out a lot of girls that normally don't work down there.
The area is actually a lot better than it was a year ago. The bars near the plaza have expanded with tables in the courtyard now. Perfect for a beer and checking out the girls. Even saw some other melanine deprived gringos there after dark haha..[/QUOTE]Some unattractive gringos are sitting on a bench for an entire day!
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073]
We cleaned up with my baby wipes and I put down 150,000 pesos ($37) to make her comfortable with our time so far. She thought I was ready to go and I told her we have an hour and she took off her bikini top and took another bump of Tussi. She even offered me some. How kind.
Taco.[/QUOTE]So you paid her almost 2. 5 X more than what she asked for? Not bashing, just trying to understand why. Is it because the standard is one hour and 1 nut? I know some working girls are like, if you bust in 5 minutes, they are getting dressed to leave. So, did you pay more because you wanted a 2nd nut within the hour time period?
[QUOTE=WawaRider;3028639]Thanks for updates, I'm excited to be there in few days.
QQ, where can we get kinky fantasies fulfilled? Nothing too crazy like BDSM but stuff I am assuming a regular lleras girl wouldn't do necessarily.
Are there any casas or clubs for these. Stuff like DT, AR, facial etc.[/QUOTE]Any intel or info on kinky stuff?
DM me if possible.
[QUOTE=Dac007;3027546]My question is are there any clubs similar to Hong Kong in Columbia?[/QUOTE]For Latinas without a doubt, Scandallo Lounge in Sao Paulo, Brazil is the GOAT. Huge LU, ultimate luxury atmosphere, girls are not naked but wear sexy cocktail party dresses. Here you can find blue eyed girls and some loiras aka blondes as well.
As far as the FKK system goes, FKK Sharks in Darmstadt Germany is the best and you should go there at least once in your lifetime, but no Latinas majority are Romanian girls, nothing blonde hair, blue eyes barbie looks, but you can find some bleached blondes and some blue eyed brunettes. The other 2 FKKs, Globe in Zurich is a nice club, smaller than Sharks, smaller LU but worth a visit because the management ensures the girls give good "service". Wellcum is not worth it, hassle to reach in the middle of nowhere and girls are rude and service is not good.
I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.
But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.
Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.
Any help would be appreciated.
This is my first retirement gift to myself.
Ok other than EAFIT.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029093]For Latinas without a doubt, Scandallo Lounge in Sao Paulo, Brazil is the GOAT. Huge LU, ultimate luxury atmosphere, girls are not naked but wear sexy cocktail party dresses. Here you can find blue eyed girls and some loiras aka blondes as well.
As far as the FKK system goes, FKK Sharks in Darmstadt Germany is the best and you should go there at least once in your lifetime, but no Latinas majority are Romanian girls, nothing blonde hair, blue eyes barbie looks, but you can find some bleached blondes and some blue eyed brunettes. The other 2 FKKs, Globe in Zurich is a nice club, smaller than Sharks, smaller LU but worth a visit because the management ensures the girls give good "service". Wellcum is not worth it, hassle to reach in the middle of nowhere and girls are rude and service is not good.[/QUOTE]Second Scandello, it is a pretty amazing experience.
Bummed to hear about Wellcum. Was on the list for this year. That being said, I've had a great time at almost every FKK I've been to (weird one in Dresden wasn't my fav, but have had worse experiences).
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;3029020]Some unattractive gringos are sitting on a bench for an entire day![/QUOTE]You're spot on! But I'm starting to see some younger gringos chilling down there as well. It's not as "scary" as everyone makes it out to be.
[QUOTE=Bravo;3029039]So you paid her almost 2. 5 X more than what she asked for? Not bashing, just trying to understand why. Is it because the standard is one hour and 1 nut? I know some working girls are like, if you bust in 5 minutes, they are getting dressed to leave. So, did you pay more because you wanted a 2nd nut within the hour time period?[/QUOTE]I paid her well because her service was way beyond what was expected. Multiple rounds, positions, BB everything, and it helped relax her. And yes, she was going to do the one nut and roll out routine.
I just returned from a quick run to MDE. My intention was to spend some time with my regular Venezuelan, but she only came thru one night. Having said that, with additional time on my hands. LOL, I made some rounds in Parque Lleras area. It was quite busy, especially after midnight, but as usual I decided to make a few laps before making any rushed choices. Yes there were many flavors, sizes, shapes, and solicitations but I am giving a special shut out to the slim chicas. Both I had on separate nights were exceptional, and everything was granted, of course giving some extra (350 p total).
Just like any of the hundred matches that come through my tinder gold account every day, Maria didn't stand out very much. She's 19, No kids, but has very nice pictures. She did not have many tattoos and she had a healthy looking culo. She also just finished a nursing school course.
We chatted for a while and we realized that we're staying very close to each other. Maybe 10 minutes away. She told me that she was looking for mutual benefits, but she was totally OK with meeting first to make sure that we have a natural connection. That's how I do things. Too many chicks use old pictures or are horrible in person or are phone junkies.
Anyways, we tried to make plans a few times, but it just never developed and she disappeared on Sunday, and I gave her hell about that. She said she was out with her family.
She popped up again today and I told her I'll be free around 2 o'clock and to message me. So she messaged right at 2 o'clock and I decided to have her come meet me at a little bar near my apartment. She doesn't drink, but she arrived soon after in a taxi she arranged that was cheaper than uber.
We talked for a while and I realized she's an Aries. And I joke around all the time that Aries don't have any heart. But just have a lump of ice inside of them. She got a laugh about that.
Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.
Anyways, I was hesitant on what I was going to do with her. Part of me just wanted to send her home, but I asked her if she had any massage experience and she said she does, so I told her I'the like a nice massage with her being naked and we headed back to my place. I had locked everything up ahead of time. And upon arrival, I locked up my phone.
Once she got naked, I could see her body was very nice. A really flat stomach, beautiful curves, and a freshly shaved pussy. She has the most sincere and honest eyes.
She got to work on the massage and did a pretty decent job. On the flipside, she finished up everything, and then insisted that she wash her hands. After that, she got back in bed with me and with a little nudge, started giving me a hand job. I was curious to see if she was just going to take things to the next level and she did. She went right to a blow job without asking. Her blow job skills were a seven out of 10. Nothing to write home to mom about. After that, we switched positions and I was dining at the why. Very tasty. But as most Aries women are, she showed zero emotion. Zero moaning. Just a blank stare as she watched. But she did say that she was enjoying it.
After that, I was doing some camel sliding on her. And she enjoyed that a lot. We kissed, but her kissing was horrible. Like kissing a corpse. Aries sign number 8. So the camel sliding was getting pretty intense and I was certain she was about to ask for a condom, but she instead asked for some lubricant. So off I went to get the lubricant and you know where that leads. The funny thing is that when I returned to the room, she still had her legs spread wide open. I joked and said I liked the view. Haha. Sex with her was actually very good. She was super tight and I had to take a number of mini breaks because I knew I was going to explode. After a good sex round, I did explode all over her stomach. I cleaned her up and she just laid in bed naked, super relaxed. We talked a lot more.
Eventually, we went for round number two because I had to see her ass from behind. But she couldn't handle it too much. She said it hurt. So we called it a day.
We showered separately. I gave her the 300 K that she requested, even though I told her that was a bit too much.
Now do I believe any of her story from before. I believe that she's not very experienced in bed and that she doesn't have data outside the house. Besides that, it's anyone's guess.
I then sent her on the way in an Uber and maybe I'll see her again. I think she'the be even better with a few drinks. She said she's never drank sweet wine before so we talked about doing that.
The end.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029253]Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.[/QUOTE]If a guy tells you how many women he has had sex with you can remove a "0" at the end. For a girl, add a "0" at the end. She wanted you to be her Sav-a-Ho. Looks like you helped her.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029253]
Her sad story which I have a hard time believing is that she's only been with one man in bed. It was her boyfriend of seven years who she broke up with five months prior. She also gave me some story that her father had recently passed away while he was doing a business transaction along the Venezuela border. And to lay it on even thicker, she was telling me that her mom put the home Internet account in her name and they are three months behind so she doesn't have very good service to communicate when she's at home. Blah blah blah. I don't tend to believe any of it.
[/QUOTE]PSA: Claro & Tigo turn off your internet service after one month of non-payment, and cancel it after 2 months.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3029107]I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.
But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.
Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.
Any help would be appreciated.
This is my first retirement gift to myself.
Ok other than EAFIT.[/QUOTE]I did something like that as a post retirement thing. I found that 4 days a week with 4 to 6 hours per day in classes as long as those classes were not all heavy ones (some were more conversation, interaction through games, etc). 5 days a week was exhausting, 4 about right as there were 3 day weekends to sort of recover. And the most I could do at one go was about 5 weeks. So I did a total of around 25 weeks doing about 8 to 10 weeks a year. I think it would be ok doing it on a more continual basis, say for 6 months, but it uses a lot of energy in the brain and can literally tire you out. So some pacing is good.
As far as universities in Medellin the only one I know about is EAFIT. I didn't do my Spanish in Colombia, but in a non-university language school. Although they did offer options to get credit at many universities as they had university educated instructors. I would prefer some of those over university based as the class groups were much smaller (max 5 or 6 per instructor) and there were more activities included. Unfortunately many of these institutes did not do well through the shut downs and most went to on line versions and have never got back to in person classes.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3029359]PSA: Claro & Tigo turn off your internet service after one month of non-payment, and cancel it after 2 months.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about home internet or cell phone? Of course they turn off your internet if you have not paid it. But your cell phone SIM is definitely is not canceled after 2 months. I have had the same Claro number for years and do not pay on it every 2 months. The last time I topped up was July 1 when I was in Colombia. If I have any problems tomorrow (October 1) when I arrive, then I will report on this post being true.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3029107]I rather not pre-bias any suggestions by mentioning the names I've found.
But I was wondering what would be the best University course to take a begginers Espanol course in Medellin.
Perhaps 4-6 hours per day 5 days per week for 6 months in person, afternoons or evenings would be ideal.
Any help would be appreciated.
This is my first retirement gift to myself.
Ok other than EAFIT.[/QUOTE]If you are a true beginner, I would start out with online work, listening to recordings on head phones, etc. Establish a basic vocabulary and phrases that way. Then progress to watching Spanish language TV and listening to radio and music. 4-6 hours a day is too much in any event and I would recommend 2 hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week. A university is not the way to go. Language schools with small interactive groups, then go out and socialize and practice.
Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3028073] All of the subway cars coming out of downtown were packed.[/QUOTE]I have rode the Medellin Metro Lines around town and it does not go underground. It is not a subway.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]This comes up all of the time. Don't drink if you are concerned or get a bottled beer!
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard anything about Trump or USA relations in Medellin and I've been back from vacationing in Europe for about a month now. Safety is always a concern, especially if you are out drinking around strangers or people you don't really know.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]So you're basically going December, from my personal experience I avoid going to Colombia in November and December as crimes goes up because of holiday. Airfare will cost more, the same as hotel prices and Airbnb's and chicas will be hustling more for the prices. Colombian celebrates Christmas the whole month of December, some people say it's fun to visit Colombia but be very careful and use your common sense so you don't get got. This is something you have to consider. That's my two cents.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3029640]I plan to go to Medellin later this month and be there five weeks. I'm a little concerned because the Colombian president is wacky. His US visa was revoked. My concern is will he retaliate, and how.[/QUOTE]What does any of that have to do with you visiting Colombia? Do you think Petro is going to go find you and do something to you because of his back and forth with Trump? Petro will be like I got your boy Fun Luvr Trump; now talk that shit!
Mr E! Always bringing the humor and common sense! Love it! Shame I'm missing you in MDE. I'm flying out tomorrow. I'll be in Asia in the spring. Let's catch up again over some food!
Taco.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029724]What does any of that have to do with you visiting Colombia? Do you think Petro is going to go find you and do something to you because of his back and forth with Trump? Petro will be like I got your boy Fun Luvr Trump; now talk that shit![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;3029747]Mr E! Always bringing the humor and common sense! Love it! Shame I'm missing you in MDE. I'm flying out tomorrow. I'll be in Asia in the spring. Let's catch up again over some food!
Taco.[/QUOTE]I am in Barranquilla now. I will definitely catch you in Asia brother.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029400]Are you talking about home internet or cell phone? Of course they turn off your internet if you have not paid it. But your cell phone SIM is definitely is not canceled after 2 months. I have had the same Claro number for years and do not pay on it every 2 months. The last time I topped up was July 1 when I was in Colombia. If I have any problems tomorrow (October 1) when I arrive, then I will report on this post being true.[/QUOTE]As I was saying, no problem with my Claro internet that has not been active for 3 months. Topped up at the pharmacy. 22,000 pesos got me unlimited calls and 40 GB of data.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3029469]Planning on going to Colombia the the end of November, just wanted some inputs on the state of Medellin specifically politically I saw trump is beefing with them right now for some reason but other than petty crime and obviously watching your drink does anyone feel unsafe right now? Just want to ease some of my friends minds.[/QUOTE]Funny enough, I decided to visit El Poblado today for a change of pace. After having lunch in a Mall, I went walking down Avenida El Poblado and there was a pro-palestine protest in the middle of the street. Maybe 50 people. Some of the signs were in English. Some were anti-American. Basically looked like the type of people you see protesting in the USA. No baddies in the crowd.
A friend also sent me the attached today, which I think is more comedy than anything.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849] I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I assume you have eaten more spicy or acid food than normal or been eating very late at night right before sleeping. First, stop that. Second take anti-acids. I just take baking SODA (not baking powder). Dairy products help counter balance spicy food but just a little but sometimes that is all that is required.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. [/QUOTE]When I left Brazil to Colombia in April nobody said anything about a yellow fever vaccine.
Back in March I took my dad to Africa. He does not have the yellow fever vaccine. The places we called to get one, they were like $500. But the kicker is for some reason there is a shortage so places did not even have it in stock.
Pro Tip: You can buy the yellow fever cards on Amazon 2 for $11. I got a stamp made while I was in Dominican Republic for like $15, but of course you can get one of those made anywhere. Then you are in the house. You can copy the info from my card, just make up a nurse's name where I have blacked it out.
We went to 5 countries in Africa and were never asked for the cards. I have had my card for 17 years. The only time I have been asked for it was in immigration in Australia. We were at the desk and my buddy starts mouthing off to the officer that I just got back from Africa. He was like oh yeah, what country? I told him then he looked at a list on his wall and asked me if I had a yellow fever card. I did not have it with me so he told me to step aside. We were delayed an additional hour because I had to fill out paperwork and they told me to monitor myself for certain symptoms. In immigration you don't say shit unless you are asked shit.
Had the same heartburn thing and cut out all ice cubes. They aren't filtered. Also got to watch the juice with water. No bueno. I only experienced it here as well.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3029849]Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous question. I was never asked by immigration if I had a ticket out of the country. I was asked by the airline though when I was checking bags. I had already bought a ticket so I am not sure what would happen if I did not have one. I decided to spend 2 weeks in Argentina to avoid getting the yellow fever vaccine, for obvious reasons. This is my fourth time in Medellin. And my fourth day in a row slumming it in centro. I just stay by the church now. No clubs or casas for me. I thought of doing a casa run just to have something to report, maybe I will. Any suggestions? But with prices ranging from 7 to 15 usd, it is no need to go anywhere else. Enough good talent for me. The talent is a lot better than I was expecting or saw on previous trips. But time of day matters a lot. Quick question. I have heartburn in my throat that won't go away, didn't experience this in Brazil or Argentina. Any ideas? Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I also just spent the day in Centro and there was some talent. Along with a long list of frightening looking women. I enjoy hanging at the bar on the corner (can't remember what street but there is a metal and a wood bar top). There are about 8 seats all outdoors. I enjoy watching Centro life walk by. And watching the girls. Your heartburn could be caused by Viagra if you are taking it.
Going back to MDE in a few weeks. Will be 3rd time. Just wanted some updates about a few specific things.
How is the massage game at Rio sur mall? Still pricey for extras? I been in touch with my last massage girl and I have a date lined up but always wondering about the flavors and prices of other spots.
Perhaps other spots with legit massages and satisfactory FS / he? Feel free to PM.
How is hooters for football Sunday? Should I go extra early or is it not that popular. I went once for UCL but def want to try at the girls there. Maybe another alternative if it's tooo packed?
Their food isn't that big of a deal but tv setup and ladies are on point.
Is loutron worth it or still transactional.
I def will indulge in lleras it's like Disney world for men but I have 3-4 FB girls that I'm tryna chill with and they seem more down to earth than some of the prev girls I met at lleras who are more transactional with high rates and one pop. Some of these FB girls just wan chill and no prices were given to me. I speak the language so they fck with me.
Thanks to Mr. E for the info about fake Vaccine cards. I never worked in an office before, but I assume you can get stamps made at office depot? Thanks to people that were concerned for my health, heartburn is annoying. I tried anti acids from Brazil and bought some here in Colombia. Neither helped at all. I watched a YT video from Dr. Eric Berg. He said heartburn can be cuased by a lack of acid. I squeezed two limes into a glass of water and the heartburn went away. It came back after I popped a generic Viagra. A member said it could be the viagra. Weird because I never had this problem in the past. I went back to Veracruz again.
I can't stop going. I think there is a big difference between Venezuelan and Colombian girls. I think the zuelans are more dangerous and crazy, but it is worth the risk imo. Also I asked a few for BB, I got quoted 3-4 times the standard price of about 50 k-60 k. Also I see some girls are charging 50 k instead of 60 k so I probably will just go with 50 k now that I know. The service is basic though. Very different than Brazil, I should expect this given the venue. It is very wham bam, but no careless whisper. What must 1984 have been like? The girls in Brazil sucked dick so good sex was extra. But the Veracruz girls suck dick for 20 seconds and ready to lay on their back. You can not get everything I guess. Also the blowjobs suck ass as well as being short. I'm spoiled now. The Brazilian girls would suck for 30 minutes no complaint. But it is way cheaper here. I went to the room with this beautiful light brown afro Colombian girl today. She said 50 k. We get in the room and she tells me she offers sin condon as well. I was so surprised by this because I didn't ask her about that. She said she was from Cartagena. Are the non paisa girls more BB friendly? This has been my experience. She said 150 k for sin condon. To me it kind of makes me feel better knowing they charge so much more for BB. It makes me think that not every Tito Diego and Julio Colombiano is hitting it raw like me. I'm probably delusional. I tend to prefer non paisa girls and Venezuelans now, we will see where this goes. Good pussy though. All the girls I fucked raw I nutted in.
I went back and forth on whether or not I should post this. Which is why my last post lacked details. I know this is controversial, it tends to start arguments more often than snitching or politics. But I thought that someone might want this information and who am I to deny them. After all, someone gave it to me and you. I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069]What must 1984 have been like? The girls in Brazil sucked dick so good sex was extra. But the Veracruz girls suck dick for 20 seconds and ready to lay on their back. You can not get everything I guess. Also the blowjobs suck ass as well as being short. I'm spoiled now. The Brazilian girls would suck for 30 minutes no complaint. But it is way cheaper here. I went to the room with this beautiful light brown afro Colombian girl today. She said 50 k. We get in the room and she tells me she offers sin condon as well. I was so surprised by this because I didn't ask her about that. She said she was from Cartagena. Are the non paisa girls more BB friendly? This has been my experience. She said 150 k for sin condon. To me it kind of makes me feel better knowing they charge so much more for BB. It makes me think that not every Tito Diego and Julio Colombiano is hitting it raw like me. I'm probably delusional. [/QUOTE]150 K for raw sex is less than $40 usd. Not a lot, if that is your thing.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069] I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.[/QUOTE]Los Torres. Cra 53 #49-43. This place is one block north and 2 blocks west from Veracruz. They cook ribs and stuff using a wood grill 2 meters from the sidewalk. They give people a piece to try. Just ask. The hours listed are wrong. Pretty sure they are closed on Sunday and the grilled meat is 11 am - 4 pm most days.
[URL]https://lostorreshornoypar.wixsite.com/lostorres[/URL]
Carbon and Sabor Cra 52 #49-53? (also other locations). Next to Kiskiriski on Google maps. 2 block walk from Veracruz. The grilled meat in the fajitas is great.
Both are nearly at the same location on parallel streets.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030069]I'm here for a month, any good restaurant recommendations? The food is terrible in South America, what is wrong with these people. I cook better food at home.[/QUOTE]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;3030060]
How is hooters for football Sunday? Should I go extra early or is it not that popular. I went once for UCL but def want to try at the girls there. Maybe another alternative if it's tooo packed?
Their food isn't that big of a deal but tv setup and ladies are on point.
[/QUOTE]My personal opinion of Hooters is that you won't be picking up any staff. There are three options: 1) Chisel away as a regular, little by little, or 2) Go over the top, very direct and generous, and risk every girl working there knowing what you are up to, or 3) Flirt, enjoy the view, and separate your activities. Of course, YMMV, but I've known a lot of Hooters girls over the years, and I've seen some of them hit the jackpot but it's on the level of moving to the States or all of a sudden opening a business and driving around in a new car. It's not posting a photo from Energy Living or some hotel room. I have not been but apparently there is a new spot called Vibe that is towards Manila that might be worth checking out. Not sure when you were last there but Patrick's has remodeled and also Ay Wey is Ay Wey. Oh, there is also a new spot up the hill from Hooters, but I forget the name. It might pop up if you search sports bar or just walk out to the left, make a left at the corner, and it should be right there.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3030144]What kind of food are you looking for / missing?[/QUOTE]Excellent question. To me what Latin America falls short on is vegetables, pretty much one type of bean, and fileted and battered fish is pretty much not a thing.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3030144]My personal opinion of Hooters is that you won't be picking up any staff.[/QUOTE]Why is fucking a waitress so many guys' fantasy? It is just a job. I have fucked women with all types of jobs through the years and I can tell you that people are not their jobs; it is just how they make money to pay their bills.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3030110]Los Torres. Cra 53 #49-43. This place is one block north and 2 blocks west from Veracruz. They cook ribs and stuff using a wood grill 2 meters from the sidewalk. They give people a piece to try. Just ask. The hours listed are wrong. Pretty sure they are closed on Sunday and the grilled meat is 11 am - 4 pm most days.
[URL]https://lostorreshornoypar.wixsite.com/lostorres[/URL]
Carbon and Sabor Cra 52 #49-53? (also other locations). Next to Kiskiriski on Google maps. 2 block walk from Veracruz. The grilled meat in the fajitas is great.
Both are nearly at the same location on parallel streets.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will do a food review.
What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? Also TY to everyone that answered my last question.
What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?
I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. [/QUOTE]In that case, you would want to go to Sweet Georgia Cafe.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?
I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]Great burgers at the burger place in Provenza. 😋
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?
I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]El Centro isn't the best for food, although CC El Camino Real and a few other places in Boston and Buenos Aires are decent. If you get out of El Centro, there are plenty of food options, including vegetables. Something as simple as going to Jumbo for lunch will usually have options like chicken, salmon (maybe even pork chops) and vegetables and even a modest salad bar. You also have places that specialize in salads, vegetables and healthier food options around Meddy. As far as soul food, probably your closest options would be places like Sweet Georgia Cafe and / or Restaurante Jamaiquita but you would need to take a the train or a $3 cab to these places. In general, any Mall will have some decent options, like Premium Plaza, for instance. Outside of El Centro will provide you with your best food options.
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]What kind of food are you looking for / missing? In what part of are you staying?
I stay 10 minutes east of Veracruz. Preferably I could go for candied yams, Mac and cheese, collard greens and smothered pork chops. But beggers can't be choosers. I will take anything good at this point. But nothing raw like sushi. Mr. E is right. Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants. In Brazil you have carne or frango milanesa. But no option for fish milanesa. You can't even get a decent cheeseburger and fries. Although everywhere sells burgers, they all suck ass. I did get a great burger in Buenos Aires, but unfortunately it was my last day.[/QUOTE]Not walking distance but try these in Laureles: SkyBox or Aroma's BBQ (rumor is both have all-you-can-eat on Sundays, as of recently) or Sweet Georgia Cafe. If you have a stove, you can contact The Smokin Pit for delivered pre-made / vacuum-sealed goodness that just takes 10 mins to boil, in most cases. 301 425 2532. If you are really committed, try Big Boy Food & Bar in Sabaneta. You will have leftovers to enjoy later or the next day.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? [/QUOTE]It is 2025, not 1975. Just go to the ATM.
The only places to eat that I can recommend in Centro are Pizzeria Centro, Cafe Simone, Lupita, and for breakfast or a light lunch Astor on Junin. Colombian food is pretty bad in general and everything else in Centro is even worse.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030229]El Centro isn't the best for food, although CC El Camino Real and a few other places in Boston and Buenos Aires are decent. If you get out of El Centro, there are plenty of food options, including vegetables. Something as simple as going to Jumbo for lunch will usually have options like chicken, salmon (maybe even pork chops) and vegetables and even a modest salad bar. You also have places that specialize in salads, vegetables and healthier food options around Meddy. As far as soul food, probably your closest options would be places like Sweet Georgia Cafe and / or Restaurante Jamaiquita but you would need to take a the train or a $3 cab to these places. In general, any Mall will have some decent options, like Premium Plaza, for instance. Outside of El Centro will provide you with your best food options.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;3030184]Not a lot of vegetable options at restaurants.[/QUOTE]Cheap freshly squeezed orange, beet, carrot, and sugar cane juice. From the church walk one street north to Carrera 53. Turn left. One block to Calle 50 and cross it. Left side. Look for sugar cane stalks. Walk half a block further and look across the street and you see the LOS Torres smoked meat place I mentioned before.
Govindas in front of the church, 3rd floor. Small entrance to the stairs. Normally they sell banana, carrot, and I think bran muffins at the entrance. Cheap daily specials plus regular menu. Their meatless burrito somehow the fake meat tastes like sausage. Great to watch the parade of people below.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up?[/QUOTE]The banks in Medellin do not do money exchange. There are exchange places, called cambios, in most shopping centers. Their rates are about 100 COP per dollar less than the rate established by the international clearing houses. Search for Visa and Mastercard foreign exchange rates to see the clearing house rate. You can search for "money exchange in Medellin" and see numerous cambios with links to their website. ATM's will provide the clearing house rates if you decline the bank conversion when withdrawing, but then you need to factor in the fees charged by the ATM bank and the bank which issues the card. I think most ATM banks have a set fee per transaction, so it's advantageous to withdraw the max allowed. Davivienda and Servibank allow 2,000,000 COP per transaction. If you do much international travel, you should try to get a debit card that doesn't have fees and reimburses ATM fees.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3030354]The banks in Medellin do not do money exchange. There are exchange places, called cambios, in most shopping centers. Their rates are about 100 COP per dollar less than the rate established by the international clearing houses. Search for Visa and Mastercard foreign exchange rates to see the clearing house rate. You can search for "money exchange in Medellin" and see numerous cambios with links to their website. ATM's will provide the clearing house rates if you decline the bank conversion when withdrawing, but then you need to factor in the fees charged by the ATM bank and the bank which issues the card. I think most ATM banks have a set fee per transaction, so it's advantageous to withdraw the max allowed. Davivienda and Servibank allow 2,000,000 COP per transaction. If you do much international travel, you should try to get a debit card that doesn't have fees and reimburses ATM fees.[/QUOTE]I've found using ATM instead of cambia can save up to 10%. Yes, I use Davienda & draw 2,000,000 at a time. Also use the Schwab debit card which refunds any ATM fees. Also always decline conversion rate.
Do you know if Govinda still has a spot on La Playa?
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3030332]Cheap freshly squeezed orange, beet, carrot, and sugar cane juice. From the church walk one street north to Carrera 53. Turn left. One block to Calle 50 and cross it. Left side. Look for sugar cane stalks. Walk half a block further and look across the street and you see the LOS Torres smoked meat place I mentioned before.
Govindas in front of the church, 3rd floor. Small entrance to the stairs. Normally they sell banana, carrot, and I think bran muffins at the entrance. Cheap daily specials plus regular menu. Their meatless burrito somehow the fake meat tastes like sausage. Great to watch the parade of people below.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030284]The only places to eat that I can recommend in Centro are Pizzeria Centro, Cafe Simone, Lupita, and for breakfast or a light lunch Astor on Junin. Colombian food is pretty bad in general and everything else in Centro is even worse.[/QUOTE]I don't go to El Centro much because it's a slimy shit hole. I used to go sometimes to the gym there or to see concerts or the theater. I. ve been to Astor a few times to eat and also for pastries and coffee. Regarding Colombian food, I prefer the food on the coast and also ajiaco in Bogota, but in general I'm not a fan.
Also, the last 2 times I went to a casa I saw roaches so I can only imagine how many restaurants are in El Centro.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3030370]I've found using ATM instead of cambia can save up to 10%. Yes, I use Davienda & draw 2,000,000 at a time. Also use the Schwab debit card which refunds any ATM fees. Also always decline conversion rate.[/QUOTE]Ally Bank is a good option as well. Split your money across both, and you have a solid backup plan should you lose one of your cards. I once had a card get stuck in the ATM at Exito, and I would have been shit out of luck if I did not have the other account.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3030152]Why is fucking a waitress so many guys' fantasy? It is just a job. I have fucked women with all types of jobs through the years and I can tell you that people are not their jobs; it is just how they make money to pay their bills.[/QUOTE]True, LOL! When I was there in May, I met two different girls who worked at a Panderia. But I only knew that because they told me. I also got a bit concerned because I thought they may have both worked at the same place! I also met a chica who worked in a call center. I didn't understand what she was calling it in Spanish, and after asking her to repeat it multiple times, she finally yelled "Call Center!" in English, hahaha.
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3029711]So you're basically going December, from my personal experience I avoid going to Colombia in November and December as crimes goes up because of holiday. Airfare will cost more, the same as hotel prices and Airbnb's and chicas will be hustling more for the prices. Colombian celebrates Christmas the whole month of December, some people say it's fun to visit Colombia but be very careful and use your common sense so you don't get got. This is something you have to consider. That's my two cents.[/QUOTE]From my experience, it takes the chicas double the amount of time to arrive at your place during December because the traffic seems worse than any other time of year. That's been my main reason for never going back during that month. I flew out of there a week before Christmas.
Also, if you are there on November 30th going into December 1st, I would make it a plan to stay in for the night, as the place turns into a literal war zone with fireworks and celebratory gunfire all night.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3030183]What's the best way to convert I've had a friend that's been and said he convert his money before he came and got a great deal with his bank not sure which bank tho but I was thinking in using a bank in Medellin are the conversion rates fair over there or hiked up? Also TY to everyone that answered my last question.[/QUOTE]Search "ATM" and you will find hundreds of posts, all saying the same: NEVER CHANGE MONEY, USE ATMs.
How come there is still someone asking this?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=3028978&viewfull=1#post3028978[/URL]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3029640]I'm a little concerned because the Colombian president is wacky. While in New York last week for the UN General Assembly meeting, to spoke from the sidewalk to a pro-Palestinian group and said US soldiers should disobey President Trump. He also said he would introduce a UN resolution to create a UN military force larger than the US military. He is a former member of a Marxist guerrilla group. His US visa was revoked. My concern is will he retaliate, and how.[/QUOTE] Petro will be gone after next year, as I think he is constitutionally barred from seeking a consecutive second term. It will be interesting to see if the new president will have better relations with the USA and make transactions between the 2 countries easier.
Costeño food has more seasoning and variety of preparation. Paisa food is not much more than belly buster "bandeja" plate of beans, pork crackling, avocado and arepa. Everything else is fried and the lunch specials include watery soup. It seems like jail food. On the icky subject of roaches, I once saw a dead roach on top of pastry in the display case of the historical Versalles restaurant on Junin. Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants where the staff doesn't sweep the floor during service. It's so disgusting that the sidewalk outside is cleaner than the floor inside.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030387]I don't go to El Centro much because it's a slimy shit hole. I used to go sometimes to the gym there or to see concerts or the theater. I. ve been to Astor a few times to eat and also for pastries and coffee. Regarding Colombian food, I prefer the food on the coast and also ajiaco in Bogota, but in general I'm not a fan.
Also, the last 2 times I went to a casa I saw roaches so I can only imagine how many restaurants are in El Centro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030411]Costeo food has more seasoning and variety of preparation. Paisa food is not much more than belly buster "bandeja" plate of beans, pork crackling, avocado and arepa. Everything else is fried and the lunch specials include watery soup. It seems like jail food. On the icky subject of roaches, I once saw a dead roach on top of pastry in the display case of the historical Versalles restaurant on Junin. Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants where the staff doesn't sweep the floor during service. It's so disgusting that the sidewalk outside is cleaner than the floor inside.[/QUOTE]For some weird reason I was walking around Centro a couple days ago and wandered into a Tostao at Avenida Maracaibo why Avenida Oriental.
And I was looking at the food in the glass case at my waist and the clerk was standing there, and there was a really massive roach crawling over the food.
And I was in grossed out total shock and I pointed to it and she grabbed a napkin and grabbed it and stuck it in her pocket or something and.
Then asked what I wanted and I was even more shocked and walked out, I lost my appetite for anything to eat for at least 2 days.
I feel so unhealthy when I'm here because everything is so repulsive, even Subway is nasty.
I feel like anorexia is setting in. If I had to live here I most certainly would slowly die of malnutrition.
I am astonished for some posts in this discussion about how good is the food in Colombia and Medellin.
Some people looks at the restaurants in Centro and then concludes that restaurants in Medellin are dirty and food is poor. What do you expect?
Guys, go to higher-class areas, and you will find higher-class restaurants, clean as surgery rooms, and fine food, if you want a chef experience! You cannot compare rooms in the motel in 53 a to Nutibara to Marriott! And they are all in Medellin.
Hi, I'm a Canadian citizen and would like to stay 1 year in Colombia but I don't want to get a visa. Can I pull this of?
Yeah it's crazy sometimes. I make most of my meals at home. I rarely eat at restaurants except in Poblado and Laureles. I was never a good cook but I got a lot better during the pandemic when there was no alternative. There was a Tostao near my building. There was always flies in the food case. The counter girls were too lazy to shoo them or even keep the case door closed so they didn't fly in. It makes me sad that most Colombians don't benefit from international level hygiene unless they live in or near a foreigner heavy neighborhood. If you aren't sure what I'm getting at, you only have to compare the condition of the rolling shopping baskets at the Exito in San Antonio with the any Carulla. Carulla and Exito are part of the same company. The Carulla baskets are cleaned every day. The Exito baskets are as filthy as any sidewalk trash bin. It reminds me of decades ago in the US when hood food shops were not regularly inspected by the Health Department.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030456]For some weird reason I was walking around Centro a couple days ago and wandered into a Tostao at Avenida Maracaibo why Avenida Oriental.
And I was looking at the food in the glass case at my waist and the clerk was standing there, and there was a really massive roach crawling over the food.
And I was in grossed out total shock and I pointed to it and she grabbed a napkin and grabbed it and stuck it in her pocket or something and.
Then asked what I wanted and I was even more shocked and walked out, I lost my appetite for anything to eat for at least 2 days.
I feel so unhealthy when I'm here because everything is so repulsive, even Subway is nasty.
I feel like anorexia is setting in. If I had to live here I most certainly would slowly die of malnutrition.[/QUOTE]
This is probably the 2nd post in what will be a bunch of posts off-topic about food. But in short, food in Medellin is amazing if you bother to do a little research and go to the places that make great food. Google Maps is your friend (look for places 4. 0 or better, with at least 100 reviews or more). You will find amazing food places (some expensive in Poblado and Laureles) and some real lower-cost gems outside those areas. While there is weakness in some areas (asian food for example), pasta, seafood and steaks are amazing if you know where to look. Some recommendations: For amazing homemade pasta that rivals the best you've ever had, try Tirrena Pasta in Manila (bottom of Poblado). For amazing fresh seafood in a themed 'secret' boat interior (really secret, above a small seafood store) go to El Barco de Buena Mar in San Fernando. For a really fancy (this is pricier) date restaurant with a view of Medellin and excellent food, go to RITWAL up in Casaloma above El Tesoro mall area. For an amazing Paisa lunch place, check out Restaurante La gloria de Gloria in Envigado. If you are in Laureles, Parrilla Dejame Q' Te Cuente Medelland off 70 is a great lunch place. The list is almost endless, but these are some good choices to start. Of course if you are craving some American food, then head over to Philly Steaks in Manila.
[QUOTE=Vip6682;3030540]Hi, I'm a Canadian citizen and would like to stay 1 year in Colombia but I don't want to get a visa. Can I pull this of?[/QUOTE]Short answer, no you can not.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3030558]For an amazing Paisa lunch place, check out Restaurante La gloria de Gloria in Envigado. [/QUOTE]It's a chicharron and rib place. Huge portion, limited seating, better go with a friend. Check out Cochibacon if you like chicharron.
I found the higher price places are often overpriced and not as good for the type of dishes when comparing them to Sao Paulo or Buenos Aires. Many serve supermarket wines with a high markup or high corkage fee. I saw a 2 USD bottle wine in Argentina costing more than 30 USD in some restaurants.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030411] Vesalles is one of those old school high traffic Colombian restaurants [/QUOTE]It's a argentinian restaurant. That is why they are old school, I guess you are referring to the uniform.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3030573] Many serve supermarket wines with a high markup or high corkage fee. I saw a 2 USD bottle wine in Argentina costing more than 30 USD in some restaurants.[/QUOTE]Well, to be fair, that happens almost everywhere in the world, not just in Colombia!
If you come from USA, I noted that steakhouses in Chicago or NY propose some Italian red wines, which I can buy for 10 euro in a supermarket in Italy, for 50-100 USD on the wine list. Then, you understand why usually I drink beer with my steak...
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3030558]This is probably the 2nd post in what will be a bunch of posts off-topic about food. But in short, food in Medellin is amazing if you bother to do a little research and go to the places that make great food.[/QUOTE]GOLDEN post. It will be useful to me. Let me add "Sancho Paisa" on the road to airport, or the always good San Carbon for a steak grilled on charcoal.
I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.
If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.
You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.
All facts.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030599]I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.
If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.
You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.[/QUOTE]
I am referring to the number of years (since 1961) it's been in business.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3030574]It's a argentinian restaurant. That is why they are old school, I guess you are referring to the uniform.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030557]Yeah it's crazy sometimes. I make most of my meals at home. I rarely eat at restaurants except in Poblado and Laureles. I was never a good cook but I got a lot better during the pandemic when there was no alternative. There was a Tostao near my building. There was always flies in the food case. The counter girls were too lazy to shoo them or even keep the case door closed so they didn't fly in. It makes me sad that most Colombians don't benefit from international level hygiene unless they live in or near a foreigner heavy neighborhood. If you aren't sure what I'm getting at, you only have to compare the condition of the rolling shopping baskets at the Exito in San Antonio with the any Carulla. Carulla and Exito are part of the same company. The Carulla baskets are cleaned every day. The Exito baskets are as filthy as any sidewalk trash bin. It reminds me of decades ago in the US when hood food shops were not regularly inspected by the Health Department.[/QUOTE]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.
I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.
I once stayed at an Airbnb in Bogota above a bakery / resto and it was full of roaches like I've never seen in my life, I asked bldg manager how often they spray.
He said we don't bother the bakery is full of them its just a waste of money. I left.
If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else.
I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw.
That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here.
Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?
Only serious replies please.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3030590]Well, to be fair, that happens almost everywhere in the world, not just in Colombia!
If you come from USA, I noted that steakhouses in Chicago or NY propose some Italian red wines, which I can buy for 10 euro in a supermarket in Italy, for 50-100 USD on the wine list. Then, you understand why usually I drink beer with my steak...[/QUOTE]It's a higher end steak house that serves literally the bottom shelf wine.
Serious response. They do have relatively-strict food health regulations, and yearly inspections are the norm. However, just as a food truck or vendor in a Chinatown (NYC) or Little Haiti (Miami) is likely to escape close scrunity and likely to have a roach problem; so is some shady food vendor in El Centro. If I was to judge Miami and NYC by that same standard, I'd write off both cities too. They also have strict regulations on the distribution system, including stricter-than-US regulations on food transport (notice how all food transport vehicles require special labeling so they cannot be dual-used, we don't have that requirement, among other things). Most colombians I know would be disgusted by what you saw and simply move on to another vendor. About the same as US residents in NYC or Miami seeing the same thing. I'll add to that, that when visiting many nicer food establishments I am surprised at the very strict safety clothing (hair nets, masks) required for kitchen workers that are beyond anything we have in the USA. McDonalds in Medellin feels almost like a hospital compared to our mess here. I think you need to take a step back and try a different pair of colored glasses in order to take a fresh look at the food situation. This is a poorer country, so judging by the poorest street food offerings is not really fair to their food culture, their pride, and their food quality.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.... If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else...I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw... That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here... Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]
I am providing my observation with context. Over the years, I only remember seeing one roach during sex in Laureles. The girl stood up on the bed and won't get down to the floor because of the cockroach. It is safe to say I have experienced more robbery attempts than I have seen cockroach. The girl is also afraid of it.
I ate all over the city, including El Centro. I am amazed at the bias. LOL.
My apartment was sprayed a month ago. I went out with a paisa last week. We took a walk in the morning. She said we should shower after then go out to lunch when I said just go directly to lunch without showing.
El Centro in the rain, beer 4.5 - 9 mil, depending where you sit.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3030615]I am referring to the number of years (since 1961) it's been in business.[/QUOTE]I thought that makes it old but not old school.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?[/QUOTE]You can search the internet for survival food kits. You'll see a variety of choices. I've never tried any of them.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?
Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]I am serious, although you probably won't take me seriously.
If you apply your same sanity standard to all other contexts as food, I'd suggest you bring to Medellin also some plastic doll, to use as a woman substitute for the few weeks you'll stay in Medellin.
When I travel, I am interested to experience the local architecture and natural parks, as much as trying local food and local women.
Relax: there are very good restaurants in Medellin, all worth to try (I'd say the same about women).
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030599]I tend to think Bogota has better restaurants and the food on the coast has more flavor, but in general I don't think most people travel to Colombia for the food. If one is having unprotected sex with crack heads in El Centro, the food in Medellin probably isn't your biggest health risk.
If you are in El Centro, you will probably see roaches along with a lot of other things you probably won't see on a reg in more upscale parts of the city. Cabs are inexpensive enough where you can get out of the roach infested areas and at least eat in decent venues around the city.
You might have to pay more to eat non local food at more upscale places, but to me it is worth it. Also, try to stay away from chains that receive everything in plastic bags and just heat up food prepared in some distribution center. Lastly, enjoy the things that are native to Colombia like the fruits, especially things like avocados and dragon fruit and the fresh bread and good coffee.[/QUOTE]I applaude your post! Standing ovation from me. Kudos. So much truth in 3 paragraphs.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.
I'm guessing they don't have any Health Dept doing strict random inspections or an FDA inspecting the food supply.
I once stayed at an Airbnb in Bogota above a bakery / resto and it was full of roaches like I've never seen in my life, I asked bldg manager how often they spray.
He said we don't bother the bakery is full of them its just a waste of money. I left.
If restaurants in Centro don't have any rules or regulations (or at least not any real enforcement) I doubt its any different in Poblado or anywhere else.
I seriously doubt most locals would've been upset by what I saw.
That's a very big problem, that tells me it isn't "safe" to eat anywhere here.
Does anyone know of a powdered food supplement I can bring to use as a food substitute for a few weeks at a time?
Only serious replies please.[/QUOTE]Colombia actually has strict rules, inspections and enforcement, so does the state of Florida yet dozens of restaurants get shut down daily in Florida. It's a fact that almost every restaurant in the world has roaches regardless of their hygiene. I was in the restaurant supply business at one time and the stories I could tell about some of the high end restaurants in Connecticut.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3030623]So what bothers me so much about seeing roaches dead or alive on food for display, is I can't help but imagine what things look like in the kitchen out of public view.[/QUOTE]Yeah well welcome to earth. Just imagine the deer that are shitting on that lettuce when it is out in the field growing. Sounds like you were neither a boy scout or in the military or have been to Asia where they eat bugs for snacks.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3030785]Colombia actually has strict rules, inspections and enforcement[/QUOTE]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.
On an unrelated topic, I've lived in Medellin for about 8 years now and have experienced numerous tremors and have never seen anyone walk around inspecting buildings or asking questions so I'm always interested when someone suggests that there are inspections of things.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030800]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.[/QUOTE]We are going way off topic. But Google "Resolucion 2674 de 2013", issued by the Ministry of Health, and enforced by INVIMA and local health secretariats such as Medellin's Secretaria de Salud. Medellin itself runs a program called "Establecimientos Seguros y Abiertos al Publico" that you can also google.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030800]Interesting. What is your source? I live in Colombia so I'd like to know more about this if you can share where you got this information. Also, if you have information about restaurants that have been closed due to a failed inspection.
On an unrelated topic, I've lived in Medellin for about 8 years now and have experienced numerous tremors and have never seen anyone walk around inspecting buildings or asking questions so I'm always interested when someone suggests that there are inspections of things.[/QUOTE]I live here in Colombia too. My "source" is my baby mama. She works in the industry. One day we were at a food court in Manizales having lunch with my daughter and her brother and several restaurants suddenly closed one of which was Frisby and that is what the kids wanted so there was of course some discussion and I asked her what was going on and she said it was inspections by the health dept. ,I forget the official title. She went on to tell me how strict they are.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3030957]I live here in Colombia too. My "source" is my baby mama. She works in the industry. One day we were at a food court in Manizales having lunch with my daughter and her brother and several restaurants suddenly closed one of which was Frisby and that is what the kids wanted so there was of course some discussion and I asked her what was going on and she said it was inspections by the health dept. ,I forget the official title. She went on to tell me how strict they are.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Based on what I've seen in places, the conditions must have been pretty bad or maybe something else behind the scenes. I wonder how they deal with spots in the barrio populares and up in the mountains.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030959]Interesting. Based on what I've seen in places, the conditions must have been pretty bad or maybe something else behind the scenes. I wonder how they deal with spots in the barrio populares and up in the mountains.[/QUOTE]Short answer is they don't. The difference between a wealthy country or state and a poorer one. In a wealthy location (say California), they are able to get near 100% full enforcement. In a place with limited resources like Colombia, they focus first on high-traffic highly-impactful places (malls, tourist centers, business centers, etc.) and then fawn out from there as their resources best allow. Meaning that they are less likely to get to small, farther, lower impacting locations on the desired level of frequency (like a food stall in el Centro). As the government's economic situation improves, then they can hire more resources and improve enforcement. You see the same thing in any other country and even in the states (compare enforcement in Alabama to say Massachusetts). BTW, in Medellin there is a circular green sticker you will see in locations that shows last date of inspection.
Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol
[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol
[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL][/QUOTE]That was funny. Bogota has a lot more normal travelers and Cartagena has a lot more normal tourists. They know all the freaks go to Medellin.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol[/QUOTE]I have a feeling the bondage equipment is what pushed him over the top, since it creates a perception of potential violence or rape. That combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap), and his inability to have a credible story explaining all he brought or why, just put him over the top. Denying entry is more of a grey area. Likely we in the USA might also deny someone for the same reasons under the same circumstances (I mean pre-Trump, not the current more aggressive environment). If you are bringing a small store of 'whatever', have someone lined up you can message as the recipient and dress like a local. Not a sex tourist.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3031199]combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap)[/QUOTE]Seen dudes go through Medellin and Bogota security with durags on their head and pants sagging so I don't think immigration pays much attention or cares about attire of tourists.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031194]That was funny. Bogota has a lot more normal travelers and Cartagena has a lot more normal tourists. They know all the freaks go to Medellin.[/QUOTE]True Bogota has more of a business clientele and more "normal" tourists. I think the outliers I see are dudes that have been listening to you guys telling people to fly to Bogota and get through immigration faster and then transfer to Medellin LOL.
Cartagena hmmm. A lot of riff riff and crazies go through there too but year, they probably get more normal folks and beach goers. Meddy has a bad rap.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031180]Finally started flagging people because of their luggage. Wonder if they are as diligent in Cartagena and Bogota. Funny, they crack dude's bag and he has the stereotypical Victoria Secrets, rubbers and baby oil lol
[URL]https://youtu.be/k_C_qotp294?si=uYejNnDPNiM8uxs0[/URL][/QUOTE]On my last trip when I was leaving MDE the security guy saw all of the stamps in my Passport and was suspicious. He asked if I had luggage and I said yes. He took a phot of my passport and let me go.
Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3031419]On my last trip when I was leaving MDE the security guy saw all of the stamps in my Passport and was suspicious. He asked if I had luggage and I said yes. He took a phot of my passport and let me go.[/QUOTE]Has happened to people I know at MDE and they went through their checked bag.
There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.
It just isn't sustainable for me to pay $500 for that in the US, especially when I can pay 20% of that for a full-blown service with someone just as attractive in Colombia.
Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.
On another note, I had my first solid experience with seeking. Submissive 19 year old who told me she would do whatever I wanted her to. Pretty good start.
[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? [/QUOTE]Any weather app or a search of the weather will answer your question. I suggest that you do that.
I'm reading this forum and it seems that the mongers are talking about anything but putas. They are talking about healthy foods, immigration issues, and everything under the sune but boom boom. LOL I kinda of figured that guys who are lonely or need to vent about something had their facebook to talk about these things. Oh well, just waiting for a good post about putas.
[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.
It just isn't sustainable for me to pay $500 for that in the US, especially when I can pay 20% of that for a full-blown service with someone just as attractive in Colombia.
Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.[/QUOTE]No! Leave that shit where it is. When in Rome. Don't try importing culture from one place to another. You guys continually shoot yourselves in the foot. They tried to start that bullshit in Sosua too. As soon as chicks see some morons are willing to give them a bunch of money just for dancing, guess what? The fucking goes out of the window or the price for fucking gets jacked way up. If you want a chick dancing on you, then rent her to fuck and have her do it to you in the room before you fuck. Stop adding additional costs and pricing to something (fucking for money) that should be simple.
You could change the pattern. Oh well, just waiting for you to do that.
[QUOTE=Andres901;3031712]I'm reading this forum and it seems that the mongers are talking about anything but putas. They are talking about healthy foods, immigration issues, and everything under the sune but boom boom. LOL I kinda of figured that guys who are lonely or need to vent about something had their facebook to talk about these things. Oh well, just waiting for a good post about putas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3031199]I have a feeling the bondage equipment is what pushed him over the top, since it creates a perception of potential violence or rape. That combined with his 'passport bro' look (t-shirt, shorts, baseball cap), and his inability to have a credible story explaining all he brought or why, just put him over the top. Denying entry is more of a grey area. Likely we in the USA might also deny someone for the same reasons under the same circumstances (I mean pre-Trump, not the current more aggressive environment). If you are bringing a small store of 'whatever', have someone lined up you can message as the recipient and dress like a local. Not a sex tourist.[/QUOTE]Funny that the immigration officials take their picture right next to the person they caught, very proud of themselves. I think the Trump regime is going to notice and start doing the same, imagine ICE agents taking selfies with a peasant farmer they just caught.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3031751]Funny that the immigration officials take their picture right next to the person they caught, very proud of themselves.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new. It happens almost all over the world.
[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?[/QUOTE]It's never cold in Medellin. Cool in Bogota, but no different now than any other time of year.
[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia? Where do you look for the girls in such a weather?[/QUOTE]Check the weather app. But yes, it's very rainy in October. In Medellin, it's been raining about every day. Sometimes it might be a shower or very light while other days might be heavier. I've balked on taking some weekend trips around the country because I prefer to wait for better weather. People in Colombia are used to rain in October so it doesn't stop parties or hookers from coming out to make money.
It usually starts between 2 and 4 pm and can go until 9 am the next morning.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031806]Check the weather app. But yes, it's very rainy in October. In Medellin, it's been raining about every day. Sometimes it might be a shower or very light while other days might be heavier. I've balked on taking some weekend trips around the country because I prefer to wait for better weather. People in Colombia are used to rain in October so it doesn't stop parties or hookers from coming out to make money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]There is something addicting about the American strip club experience. Getting teased for a half hour from a girl who knows how to perform a lap dance is an amazing experience to me.[/QUOTE]I am so sad for you.
[QUOTE=JohnnyJohn1992;3031690]Is anyone else a big of a fan of strip clubs and lapdances and been able to figure out a way to get that satisfaction in Medellin? Finding lap dance style dancers in MDE has been tough but I feel like they must be there.[/QUOTE]They're not and most Latinos are not going to pay money to get teased when they can get sex at a fairly low price. They only exist in the Yew Ess because prostitution is not legal.
Hey guys. Feliz Día de la Raza y de la Hispanidad (or, as the woke Presidente Gustavo Petro has renamed it, "'Día de la Diversidad Étnica y Cultural de la Nación Colombiana" and back in the USA homeland, still known, by the skin of its Italian-American teeth, as Columbus Day. 😊.
Perhaps this day offers an appropriate occasion for us aficionados of the Colombian P4P scene to step back, ponder and celebrate what we find to be most special about the mongering culture here in Latin America in general (and in Antioquia's Paisa Pussy Land in particular).
Speaking for myself I would single out the following special attractions as common among our indigenous putas and semi-pros when compared with the working girls to be found on other continents and climes:
--A certain, sensual, uniquely Latina, vivaciousness of personality in the best of our local chicas of the night;.
--An unselfconscious coquetry; a ready enjoyment of flirtatious banter.
--An uninhibited, readiness and skill in dressing to display one's feminine charms to best (most provocative) advantage;.
--The prevalence of mind-blowing, twerking skills generously displayed both during foreplay (warmup activities) and during the act itself--especially in quatro (doggie) and cowgirl.
--The sensuality of latin dance as it carries over into sex (sessions that begin with my request "Bebé, por favor, baila para mi placer." [Baby, please, dance for my pleasure.]
[QUOTE=Gbs123;3031524]Isn't it cold and rainy right now in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard of Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta before?
Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately. So, I followed the advice on a post here and bought an aged account on [URL]accsmarket.com[/URL] that was registered with a USA IP address.
1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.
2) Can anyone PM me a profile (or a few) to get started with? Would greatly appreciate it as I'm starting from scratch.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032079]Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately. So, I followed the advice on a post here and bought an aged account on [URL]accsmarket.com[/URL] that was registered with a USA IP address.
1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.
2) Can anyone PM me a profile (or a few) to get started with? Would greatly appreciate it as I'm starting from scratch.[/QUOTE]I never had a problem setting up a second account for my Colombia adventures. I did use a different computer to set it up so that the IP address wasn't the same. I definitely would not use my real name or other identifiable information. Remember the ol' adage. "Two people can keep a secret. If one of them is dead!
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032079]Hey all, I tried opening a second facebook account and, as is common, it was banned almost immediately.
1) Has anyone else gone down this route? Did you change the name or anything else in the profile or will that lead to a quick ban? The profile name is a random Indian name which I assume will cause confusion or suspicion when I contact or meet women on there as someone not-at-all Indian.[/QUOTE]Chicas in Medellin change their Facebook name constantly. They don't get banned. If you use a different email address and a different profile photo, I think you can create a second account. That's what I did.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3032170]Chicas in Medellin change their Facebook name constantly. They don't get banned. If you use a different email address and a different profile photo, I think you can create a second account. That's what I did.[/QUOTE]If not, how could twins have accounts.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3032065]Have you ever heard of Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta before?[/QUOTE]I am American and that is like when chicks ask what time is it in your country now. I get that they do not know geography and that a few countries have more than one time zone though.
So I have been following the reports from dcbornrob on youtube and here as well and it looks like many solo foreigners are having there phones checked once they land in Colombia. Agents are going through their phone and apparently looking for anything that could incriminate the phone owner with human trafficking or under age prostitution. I have a trip booked for the end of the year which is fully refundable. I am having second thoughts due to possibly having my phone run through, who knows who the Colombian government could due to your phone once it is unlocked. I know I am being paranoid, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me you could be denied entry even if they find an older text message where you engaged in prostitution and they than ban you from entering due to bad current relations with USA. I heard they are also adding you to a travel list where every time you travel you will go through secondary searches. Or worse they put bogus shit on your phone which falsely incriminates when you try to leave. Again, I am totally aware of how stupid this all sounds, but it is so easy to cancel and pick a different location which doesn't have the "heat" on it at the moment.
So has any one here got info on how likely it is you will have your phone checked upon entering Colombia? If they are picking 1 out of 10 solo tourists, then to me, it wouldn't be worth it. I wouldn't want to be sweating the whole trip that they aren't following all the shit you do on your phone if they pick you. And no, I am not a burner phone guy. If that is the case, I would just pick a different local as well.
Doesn't sound good.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]That is because it is a BS story. If him and "hundreds of others" were refused entry on October 8, then you would have heard about it in more places than the one facebook post. The person mentioned someone coming into the room talking about pics on their phone, but never mentioned anything about them taking their phone or more importantly having them unlock the phone. Of course it would take more than 2 hours for them to get into the phone and also go through it. Especially if phones were taken from any of the "hundreds of others. " Who packs credit cards in their suitcase? Who looks for drugs going into Colombia? You also can not get anyone in a plane in the 15 minutes they claimed they were given.
Don't let AI have you believing this fake stuff.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]The last time I arrived in MDE, there was only one guy at Immigration, trying to handle a planeload of incoming tourists. The line took 3 hours.
It seems hard to believe that MDE Immigration would have the resources to search incoming passengers' baggage or telephones.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Not true. This would be in the news if it was. Hundreds would overwhelm the capacity of airlines to fly back. Typical flights only have a handful of empty unsold seats. An individual was denied and is now trying to blow it up. Ignore and pass.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3032413]Not true. This would be in the news if it was. Hundreds would overwhelm the capacity of airlines to fly back. Typical flights only have a handful of empty unsold seats. An individual was denied and is now trying to blow it up. Ignore and pass.[/QUOTE][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/ciudadano-estadounidense-inadmitido-en-rionegro/[/URL]
Playing victim card.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3032345]
So has any one here got info on how likely it is you will have your phone checked upon entering Colombia? If they are picking 1 out of 10 solo tourists, then to me, it wouldn't be worth it. I wouldn't want to be sweating the whole trip that they aren't following all the shit you do on your phone if they pick you. And no, I am not a burner phone guy. If that is the case, I would just pick a different local as well.[/QUOTE]I posted this news story several days ago which indicates there is heightened scrutiny at MDE. Regarding phones specifically, I've only seen people talking about it on social media but I haven't seen anything specific from the government. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_C_qotp294[/URL].
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Hundreds refused is not true. This is how lies are spread and get people to believe it. I'm sure the name was intentionally cropped out of the picture for a reason.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032427]I posted this news story several days ago which indicates there is heightened scrutiny at MDE. Regarding phones specifically, I've only seen people talking about it on social media but I haven't seen anything specific from the government. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_C_qotp294[/URL].[/QUOTE]Like I said, I know I am being a bit paranoid. That being said, I cancelled my trip. I don't feel like sweating that bullshit when its easy to just book a different spot. If Colombia was the only option, I would def still risk it, but too many other places to choose Colombia right now.
Sucks, feels like the day of the monger king mega weekend trips to Medellin may be coming to an end. I posted the same question in the Sosua forum, if Medellin dies down, where will the next hot spot be? I think Cuba needs to get with the free world and open up and turn Havana into the next Medellin.
I think for this trip I am going to follow the trail of TomJackin and check out El Salvador. Seems like a safe alternative.
It's not entirely clear whether the passengers who were denied were for associations with CP / SA along with the suspicious luggage or whether some were denied ONLY for suspicious luggage. I don't pack anything crazy, but that pic in the video the other day looked like mostly condoms & lube which doesn't seem outlandish -- I definitely pack a bunch of condoms at the very least and usually lube. (Pic is screenshot from the video, not my luggage).
Decided to head downtown today, as I haven't been down there during the week in several months. Stopped in a couple of casas as well as went around the church. Saw a couple on the street that I would do. When checking out the casas, saw a really cute girl with a thick body so I decided to pull the trigger. Cost has gone up to 80,000 for a half half hour since my last visit. It was worth it as the girl had a sweet personality and the sex was good as well as an unexpected BBBJ. I didn't take any pics but I did capture a couple while I was getting dressed and she was in the shower. I got a bunch of cards but threw them away. I did find one in my pocket when I got home so I took a pic. No rain today. The weather is pretty nice.
[QUOTE=ElPostino;3032423][URL]https://telemedellin.tv/ciudadano-estadounidense-inadmitido-en-rionegro/[/URL]
Playing victim card.[/QUOTE]Yup. There's probably a bit of truth to the story, but the guy is likely leaving some key facts out.
Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]
In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks.
I then went to the X / Twitter account of Colombian Immigration which confirmed the story. I attached a screenshot from the X account.
Have tourism plans. Pack discretely. Plan for searches of luggage, electronics, etc.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]
In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. [/QUOTE]I admit, your version is much more comical, but the article says 80 foreigners have been denied entry, not that an 80 year old brought a suitcase full of perversion.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3032522]I admit, your version is much more comical, but the article says 80 foreigners have been denied entry, not that an 80 year old brought a suitcase full of perversion.[/QUOTE]The article talked about a specific individual, as well as mentioning the 80 foreigners denied entry. The specific individual appears to have had previous convictions in the US or elsewhere, and so would have been identified through cooperation with external consultation. Interpol or US authorities.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;3032532]The article talked about a specific individual, as well as mentioning the 80 foreigners denied entry. The specific individual appears to have had previous convictions in the US or elsewhere, and so would have been identified through cooperation with external consultation. Interpol or US authorities.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand your point. Did I say something incorrect? Nowhere does it say an 80 year-old man with a dirty mind was denied entry.
Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]
In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks..[/QUOTE]
Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Someone here said to search the reviews for "guest policy" or "security", but that did not work for any of the listings I was looking at. If they list this as their policy, is it not reasonable to assume guests are fine:
[QUOTE]Guest access
-The whole apartment and the communal amenities are available to all guests.
Entry Requirements:
-All guests and visitors must present original ID at reception.
[/QUOTE]Trying to book something last minute so would prefer to avoid contacting all the hosts and waiting for responses. Plus is it not sometimes an "ask for forgiveness not permission" situation when it comes to inviting 2-3 guests in a day and drawing attention?
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032347]Doesn't sound good.[/QUOTE]Why is this no where else or from other people? In any case have not heard anything like this in Bogotá and I have met about 10+ ISG guys in last couple months.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032655]Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Someone here said to search the reviews for "guest policy" or "security", but that did not work for any of the listings I was looking at. If they list this as their policy, is it not reasonable to assume guests are fine:[/QUOTE]If you scroll down, there is a section that says "House Rules. "
2 foreigners alleged to be sex predators. If I had this much sex toys in my suitcase I would be a predator. They should have said they were gay and the toys were to be used on each other!
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032607]Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]I think I speak for many of us hear, could you elaborate on what exactly they searched and how this process works? Would really help out us who plan to travel to Colombia once this shit blows over. Not going to lie, Parque Lleras is a hell of a time and not many places like it outside Colombia.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3032655]Is it necessary to always contact the Airbnb host about their guest policy before booking? Trying to book something last minute so would prefer to avoid contacting all the hosts and waiting for responses. Plus is it not sometimes an "ask for forgiveness not permission" situation when it comes to inviting 2-3 guests in a day and drawing attention?[/QUOTE]In the Airbnb listings, "guests" refers to the renters (guests of the host). People who visit the apartment are referred to as "visitors". There are two areas in the listing to pay attention to. First is the description on the first page of the listing. Second is under "Things to know", "House rules" at the bottom of the listing. That's the only two places I've seen any restrictions listed. If neither of those places say anything about visitors, chances are very good that visitors are allowed without a problem. When you request to rent, you must agree to a statement from Airbnb which basically says they discourage sex tourism, but it doesn't say it is prohibited.
COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.
I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.
I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem.
The 17,000 peso bus to town runs 24 hours and so easy. Love it.
Stayed at Hotel Soberano around the corner for 50,000 p. Stayed there years before and the room I had was pretty decent. Not this time. Cockroaches everywhere. I stayed there because I was afraid to walk across Botero Park with all my stuff at 9 pm. I saw a girl I did in the past who was staying at the same hotel and we exchanged info. Took shower and went to her room seeing if she wanted to come visit me and she said later. Two days later and no messages.
I checked the price at Hotel Mandala which has rather small dark rooms clean for 92,000 p. They have a breakfast using the resto next door and they have a foosball table in the office area.
I chose to stay at the Big Balcony Hotel near the church. They have had several owners with several names but everyone knows the one. Hotel Mandala had just boughten it 2 years ago and added free coffee and tea. Then they added a cereal breakfast with prices keep going up. I think it was 90,000 p at the time. I return and see I know the receptionist from the hotel nearest the church and the next day see another receptionist from the same hotel so I feel safer thinking less chance of any room theft. Next day I see the owner and he sees me. He remembered me and bumped fists. It took me a minute to remember him. He and his buddies own the hotel nearest the church (they kicked me out when they changed it to a 100% ST hotel), the Big Balcony hotel, and the hotel as you walk down the side of the church to the casino at the corner and turn left and it is the very first hotel. That hotel is a dark mini maze. You know if you have been there.
Hotel Big Balcony is better now for 70,000 p and my room has a refrigerator. FYI if you have a room with no ref and one is available they will move one to your room. They do not turn on the big outside front lights at the top of the building so it is actually dark at night on the top front facing floor. They fixed my window hinge and electrical plug in (grounding hole plugged) that day I mentioned it. I did not want them to think I broke the window hinge. Loud music stopped at 10:00 pm and then 10:30 pm the next night so I expect even later during the weekend. I have stayed 5 weeks in the past but only 2 days this trip and yet to see a cockroach.
Less than 24 hours here and already seen some guy pissing on a tree, one guy blowing snot from his nose, 2 people picking their nose, endless amounts of homeless druggies. I nearly died from the stench from the 3 porta potties under the metro near Hotel Nutribara. Horrible! The place is a complete circus.
First day and took a repeat from 2 years back. No condom. Came on her back. She asked for 90,000 p and I gave it. She has always been a super sweet girl to me even though the price seemed a little high since we have been together 7 times now.
Second day saw a woman at 5:30 am looking for a customer. 2 hours later and 3 hours after that still at the same location waiting. I tried a new girl. Very pretty. Wanted 60,000 p. At the halfway mark of condomless sex she says cuatro (4). 60+40= 100,000 p. Ok. I finish on her back and clean the mess with a paper towel. Less than thrilled when she washed up her snatch using my sink. I give her 100,000 and she says 300,000 ($77). We have a low level argument and I tell her policia we passed on the main floor. I give her a soda and a hug. All is well once she learned I was not a newbie.
Scotia / Colpatria Bank only let me take out 900,000 p. Used it 2 years ago with the same cards and received 1,500,000 p.
Street scene not as good as 2 years prior. It is early but I see less diamonds in the rough (possibly the cold and rain). The policia always checking the girl's IDs even when of age. I assume this has ran some of the girls away. Police everywhere. Both days had police stay in the hallways of my hotel from 2 pm - 8 pm.
My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.
I think this is the intended purpose of the investigation program.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032607]Not going back to MDE again. Was there a week ago, got pulled out and let's just say the search was super intrusive. I was in the clear but not a pleasant experience and I will just say I will take my dollars to places that are more visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]
I can remember being asked the what is the purpose of your visit question and the follow up question of what sort of attractions do you plan to visit as long ago as 2008.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;3032521]Yes, it is all over Colombian news that Colombian Immigration is looking for people engaged in sexual tourism and trafficking.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/extranjero-inadmitido-medellin-juguetes-sexuales-maleta-GC29813757[/URL]
In this article, it highlights an 80 year old American (with no criminal history or negative information in various systems) was denied entry after his luggage was searched and he was interviewed but did not give information about his tourism plans. The article states: It turns out that this foreigner brought in his suitcase a whole arsenal of toys and sexual articles, from condoms, lubricants and gels, to whips, handcuffs, dildos and vibrators. "During the immigration interview, the foreigner did not provide clear answers about the purpose of his visit. After a baggage inspection, with the support of the Police, elements were found that allowed to determine that he intended to enter for the purpose of sexual exploitation," they added from the Migration social networks..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]......My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]You planned on staying 6 months in El Centro? My hat's off to you.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3032713]I think I speak for many of us hear, could you elaborate on what exactly they searched and how this process works? Would really help out us who plan to travel to Colombia once this shit blows over. Not going to lie, Parque Lleras is a hell of a time and not many places like it outside Colombia.[/QUOTE]I was randomly (or not randomly, who the fuck knows?) pulled out of the immigration line with 2 dudes from Brazil and was escorted to the back room. The searched my carry on, then asked me to retrieve my checked bag (I was escorted to the carousel and back to the room), then they asked me to unlock my phone and a few agents went over all of my photos, including hidden folder, WhatsApp messages, social media, etc. Went through my checked bag. After about an hour I was escorted back to the immigration line, straight to the kiosk, gave my passport to the lady at the kiosk, she stamped it and let me in. Also, while in the back room I was asked multiple questions about what I do for living, my purpose of visit, place of stay, etc etc. Obviously they didn't find what they were looking for. I didn't have any lingerie or sex toys in my luggage. Maybe a couple of condoms. I heard them commenting on the photos they found in my hidden folder. I guess they were looking for pics of underage girls which I didn't have because I don't mess with kids. I haven't been to Colombia for over a year now, I want to come back but I don't want to deal with this BS again, and who knows maybe I have something on my record now, like a red flag.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3032720]In the Airbnb listings, "guests" refers to the renters (guests of the host). People who visit the apartment are referred to as "visitors". There are two areas in the listing to pay attention to. First is the description on the first page of the listing. Second is under "Things to know", "House rules" at the bottom of the listing. That's the only two places I've seen any restrictions listed. If neither of those places say anything about visitors, chances are very good that visitors are allowed without a problem. When you request to rent, you must agree to a statement from Airbnb which basically says they discourage sex tourism, but it doesn't say it is prohibited.[/QUOTE]One of the places that I stay has the "No sex tourism" stuff but when I got their I got a wink and a nod from security after I gave him some money.
Concerning Immigration at MDE, my next trip, I will enter Colombia via Bogotá, not because of possible searches at MDE, but because MDE Immigration has multi-hour lines. Last time I went, there was only one person working Immigration at MDE.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3032847]I was randomly (or not randomly, who the fuck knows?) pulled out of the immigration line with 2 dudes from Brazil and was escorted to the back room. The searched my carry on, then asked me to retrieve my checked bag (I was escorted to the carousel and back to the room), then they asked me to unlock my phone and a few agents went over all of my photos, including hidden folder, WhatsApp messages, social media, etc. Went through my checked bag. After about an hour I was escorted back to the immigration line, straight to the kiosk, gave my passport to the lady at the kiosk, she stamped it and let me in. Also, while in the back room I was asked multiple questions about what I do for living, my purpose of visit, place of stay, etc etc. Obviously they didn't find what they were looking for. I didn't have any lingerie or sex toys in my luggage. Maybe a couple of condoms. I heard them commenting on the photos they found in my hidden folder. I guess they were looking for pics of underage girls which I didn't have because I don't mess with kids. I haven't been to Colombia for over a year now, I want to come back but I don't want to deal with this BS again, and who knows maybe I have something on my record now, like a red flag.[/QUOTE]Exactly the same type of stuff for me as well. They asked if I had Viagra, condoms etc and painstakingly went through all the Whatsapp groups etc. May be this is just pay back to whatever shit we are doing (as in US). Couple of suggestions. Don't fly directly from US. Coming from Panama may be better and don't have your US passport hanging out in the open. Last. Just clean your phone / use burner and reset as you go inside. Needless to say. Unpleasant shit that I don't want to deal with ever.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;2998439]Great input, thank you!
I am meeting up with one girl from Tinder tonight, waiting for her to arrive at my hotel (Hotel Ofix) in Laureles. Will write up how it goes.[/QUOTE]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:
I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.
She was chubbier than she looked on her Tinder photos, but at least she was the same chica in the photos and attractive enough to me. She seemed a bit nervous or shy when we got up to my room, so I sat with her on the bed and we talked a bit. She asked if I had any alcohol to drink or weed to smoke, but I just had water and coca-cola. I also had made it a point to myself to not have drinks with a pro I didn't know well, for safety reasons, after all the bad stories about getting scoped that I've read on here.
After a few minutes she warmed up and we started kissing and undressing and getting down to it. She let me suck on her big tits, gave me BBBJ, and then sex. After I cummed, we lay there and talked for a few more minutes. Then she got up and started getting dressed.
I asked her where she was going, since I had paid for 2 hours with her and wanted to go again when I was ready. This was just over half an hour since she arrived. She told me that I had already finished, and that this was just for "1 polvo" - if I wanted more, I'd have to pay her extra.
This was my mistake, not asking her about the number of "polvos" or "relajaciones" included when we were setting up the meet. I have just become so accustomed to the chicas I've been with in Bogota and Cartagena usually being down for 2 or unlimited pops during the time we have together, that I just didn't think to ask about this. Lesson learned.
She said if I had something to drink or smoke she could chill for a while, but since there was nothing, she was just going to go. I was pissed, but there was nothing I could do about it, so I paid her. She also asked for extra for taxi fare, which wasn't something we had agreed to before. I refused but she kept insisting, and I didn't want to keep arguing with her in my room, so I gave her money for the taxi and then sent her on her way and deleted her number.
The sex wasn't bad, she was cute and curvy, but her attitude in person was colder than what I look for, and I felt like I got scammed on the money.
She was one of many chicas I talked to on Tinder before and during my few days in Medellin. I matched with a lot of chicas on there, significantly more than in Bogota, so Tinder seems to be very active in this city. About half the chicas on there seem to be pros, and the other half non-pros (compared to maybe 1 out of 5 being pros on Tinder in Bogota.) There were many non-pros I matched with who were beautiful and who I had good rapport with during our chats and who I'd love to date. But that requires a lot of time to put in to get laid, and I only had a few days for this trip, so I decided to only meet up with pros in order to make the sex quick and easy to obtain.
I got their quotes on Whatsapp, most of them quoting 400 k or more, some a little less, with various degrees of service offered (including some fine with multiple pops, and others trying to get me into threesomes with one of their friends). Some of the chicas, if I didn't reply to them after they quoted me prices, would message me again telling me they'd give me a discount if I was free right then. One chica, absolutely stunning, was offering toda-la-noche for $200 US. Didn't sound like a bad deal for a high-class escort type experience of dinner and dancing and sex all night until morning, or whatever combination of that I wanted. I didn't end up seeing her, but maybe I'll hit her up if I'm ever back in Medellin.
To sum up, my experience is that there are tons of attractive women in Medellin available on Tinder, but it can be VERY time-consuming. A lot of these chicas won't reply for days or more between messages. And it can take quite a bit of back and forth with these messages to set up a meet, especially if you're looking for non-pros or aren't sure if the chica is a pro or not. This was similar to my experiences in Brazil and Peru as well, with women being very slow to respond on Tinder and time-consuming to set up actual meets. I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies. So I guess Tinder (and DominicanCupid and ColombianCupid) activity varies between different countries / cities. But in Medellin, if you're someone looking to be more efficient with your time and put in less effort, then street-walkers in Parque Lleras and El Centro, or casas / strip-club chicas, are probably a better bet for you.
Like I said before, I only had a short time in Medellin for this trip, so this first disappointing experience didn't encourage me to immediately set up other meets off Tinder (although I might try again if I go back.) So instead, the next day I tried out El Centro, and ended up having an awesome time with a Venezuelan street-walker at one of the motels down there. So good, that I had her come over to my hotel the following day so we could have another go at each other. I'll post a report about that experience too (eventually.).
Anyway, I hope you guys find at least some of this info useful. I still feel kind of new at this, even though I started mongering almost 2 years ago (after my divorce). Feels like I keep making rookie mistakes, but still having a great time getting laid with sexy and sometimes fun and affectionate pros, in between the great dating experiences I've been having with non-pros. Stay safe out there and have fun!
That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.
Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:
I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.
I got their quotes on Whatsapp, most of them quoting 400 k or more, some a little less, with various degrees of service offered (including some fine with multiple pops, and others trying to get me into threesomes with one of their friends). Some of the chicas, if I didn't reply to them after they quoted me prices, would message me again telling me they'd give me a discount if I was free right then. One chica, absolutely stunning, was offering toda-la-noche for $200 US. Didn't sound like a bad deal for a high-class escort type experience of dinner and dancing and sex all night until morning, or whatever combination of that I wanted. I didn't end up seeing her, but maybe I'll hit her up if I'm ever back in Medellin.
[/QUOTE]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.
It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.
Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".
[QUOTE=Combo;3033033]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.
It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.
Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".[/QUOTE]It drives me nuts to hear people talk about "service" on Tinder. If they are truly non-working girls why would want that type of experience. Anyone who says that want an amount of money for an hour probably is worth seeing.
It's probably not a good idea to spend an entire night with someone you've never met.
[QUOTE=KrisMonger;3032945]Exactly the same type of stuff for me as well. They asked if I had Viagra, condoms etc and painstakingly went through all the Whatsapp groups etc. May be this is just pay back to whatever shit we are doing (as in US). Couple of suggestions. Don't fly directly from US. Coming from Panama may be better and don't have your US passport hanging out in the open. Last. Just clean your phone / use burner and reset as you go inside. Needless to say. Unpleasant shit that I don't want to deal with ever.[/QUOTE]The tension between the US and Colombia is very high right now. The highest it has ever been. Trump attacked a Colombian vessel and called the Colombian president a drug leader. Its going to get worse for US tourists, especially single males.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]She was one of many chicas I talked to on Tinder before and during my few days in Medellin. I matched with a lot of chicas on there, significantly more than in Bogota, so Tinder seems to be very active in this city.[/QUOTE]Of course it is more active because there are more scammers. People in Bogota have real jobs and do not have the time to be sitting around on Tinder waiting for someone to scam. Smart thing that you were not down for the drinks. Her M / O may have been to get you off your square that way. Seems after you threw a monkey wrench into her plans, it did not take long for the real her to come out. Were you there to party or to fuck? Seems to me your mission was accomplished and hers was twarted, though 240 K plus taxi money is a very good take for her.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3033002]That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.
Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.[/QUOTE]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies.[/QUOTE]Well Dominican Republic is an island. And in island life they don't have shit to do and ain't going anywhere. That is why there is volume and speed. Beware of when you arrive though. The volume and speed gets lower and the excuses get higher. They will need money to go to the salon before they come see you.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]I'm having a much better experience with this right now for my upcoming trip to the Dominican Republic, though, since I seem to be in high demand with the chicas there, both in terms of volume and the speed of their replies.[/QUOTE]Well Dominican Republic is an island. And ias island life goes, they don't have shit to do and ain't going anywhere. That is why there is volume and speed. Beware of when you arrive though. The volume and speed gets lower and the excuses get higher. They will need money to go to the salon before they come see you or start talking about some kind of medical procedure that they need. If a broad there is telling you anything besides where and what time to meet up, then it is a scam.
[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]Maybe grok does not understand that border laws are not the same as everyday citizen in the public laws, same as USA.
[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]Anybody that has spent any time in Latin America knows that laws are only suggestions in a lot of cases. Besides, what are you going to do if the Immigration agent tells you to hand over your phone, quote him the law, that is laughable, or tell him no and go back home? No, you're going to hand him your phone like every other person that thinks that they don't have to hand over their phone.
[QUOTE=Combo;3033033]Chances are very high the $200 toda la noche girl would have bolted after an hour or so. Nothing stopping her from doing so.
It's almost better to do short time for an initial encounter. If you are really into it, you can usually extend the session.
Also if you insist on booking on all-nighter, it's better to say "amanecida. ".[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. And I agree with you about the benefit of a shorter initial encounter. Thank you for the tip about the amanecida!
You could have left the Viagra at home too. It is available here at any pharmacy at very competitive prices.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3033002]That really sucks. Going through hidden images folder on iphone is insane.
Just to avoid selection bias, I'll add that I flew in yesterday with zero problems, guy didn't even ask me the purpose of my trip or where I was staying, just glanced at the check-mig, stamped, and waved me through. Line was about 1 hr20 min. Packed condoms and viagra, but left the dildos and VS panties at home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.
I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.
I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem..[/QUOTE]Great report and very nice information, can you please exactly tell the name of "Big Balcony Hotel" , I normally stay at hotel nutribara but every time I visit their prices are going up and level of service is going to trash.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]
Like I said before, I only had a short time in Medellin for this trip, so this first disappointing experience didn't encourage me to immediately set up other meets off Tinder (although I might try again if I go back.) So instead, the next day I tried out El Centro, and ended up having an awesome time with a Venezuelan street-walker at one of the motels down there. So good, that I had her come over to my hotel the following day so we could have another go at each other. I'll post a report about that experience too (eventually).
[/QUOTE]On the second day of my Medellin mongering back in April, I decided to check out El Centro in the afternoon, since I had read some positive reports about it here. The area is packed with the big museum, various churches and statues, busy vibrant markets, and other things to sight-see, so it might be worth it to visit just for that if you're interested. I also read about how dangerous / crime-infested it's supposed to be, so I made sure I had my eyes open and spidey-sense up while I was walking around there.
I had the Uber drop me off in front of the museum (was around 4 pm or 5 pm) and walked around for a while, towards the direction of all the motels, which I had checked on Google Maps beforehand, and had seen in some walk-through videos on Youtube. There were definitely a lot of working chicas all over the area, including in front of the museum / churches. Many of them looked like sketchy crack hose. And there were some others that looked cleaner, but older and / or overweight. But there were a few I saw who looked attractive to me.
After doing a walk around a couple of blocks checking out the talent, I came back the way I came and spotted one of these attractive ones I saw earlier still standing around between a motel and a bus stop. She turned out to be Venezuelan, in her late 30's, curvy body (including some recently-added fake tiddies), big pretty smile, long blonde ponytail. I started chatting her up with an "hola" and "como te llamas", followed by "how much for some time with you" in spanish. She was very friendly and confident, straight-forward talker with good energy right off the bat. For price she offered me 30 minutes for 100 k. I asked her about longer, she said we could do 1 hour for 200 k and that I could pop twice with her.
I agreed and she took me to a motel where the staff knew her well, but it looked like a dump to me. I told her I'd rather go to another motel nearby that I had read (on here) was recommended. She agreed and followed me, although asked me a couple of times how close it was, she seemed a little nervous about going someplace with a guy she had just met. I told her "just around the corner" (which it was) and when we found it, she recognized it and was fine with it. Inside it also turned out to be a dump, LOL, but a little bit nicer and cleaner looking than the previous place. I paid for the room for an hour, and they gave me the key and some condoms (that's a nice touch).
Once inside the room, we chit-chatted a bit while she used the bathroom to wash up, then got down to kissing and the action. She looked and fucked like a slutty porn-star. Very fun chica. While she was blowing me, she would take my cock out of her mouth and smack it against her face and lips, and kept calling it "sabroso. " We did it in multiple positions and went at it for two rounds. Each time I blew my load she happily told me in spanish "you're hired!" as I was coming back down to Earth.
We talked some more between rounds and afterwards about each other's lives. After the second round we took showers to clean up. She kept telling me that I should be watching my things more closely, since you can never tell who will rob you. And that I shouldn't keep turning my back on her because "girls around here will slit your throat. ".
Her service was excellent, and I liked the chemistry we had together, so I got her number and then went on my way and she went back to the street. After that I stopped at the Sports Bar at the San Peter to check it out for dinner, since I saw it mentioned here a few times. The chicken wings are indeed excellent. There were two chicas hanging out there who looked like they were probably pros, although they weren't pretty enough for my tastes to make me want to chat them up. There was a bartender working there who was very hot, but she didn't seem flirty at all.
Later that night, I messaged that Venezuelan El Centro chica, to set up a meet at my hotel the next morning. I offered her 200 k for 1 hour, just like we did earlier that day. She told me she usually charges 300 k for hotel visits, but for me she would do it for 250 k (and taxi fare). I agreed and we wished each other a good night. In the morning, she messaged me early that she was getting ready for me and sent me a photo of herself in a tight white outfit with short skirt and boots, asking me if this was good enough for her to wear with me. I told her that she looked great in it and to come on over. I met her downstairs outside the hotel to pay her taxi driver, and then we went up to my room. Another two rounds of great BJ and enthusiastic sexo, and again she told me "you're hired!" after each time she made me cum, LOL.
We also engaged in more fun talk about each other's lives, side hustles, family situations, etc. She was a very down to earth, mature, and fun woman, and she told me "you know, you're really cool. " After we wrapped up, I escorted her downstairs to the taxi waiting for her, and we both told each other we hoped we'll see each other again. Then I walked in search of a late breakfast, feeling happy and satisfied. I flew out of Medellin that evening, but I'll definitely message her for more meetups if I ever go back.
Hope you all found this interesting and / or useful. Stay safe and have fun!
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3033139]I met her downstairs outside the hotel to pay her taxi driver, and then we went up to my room. Another two rounds of great BJ and enthusiastic sexo, and again she told me "you're hired!" after each time she made me cum, LOL.
Hope you all found this interesting and / or useful. Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]Congrats! I've fucked well over 100 chicas in Medellin and never gotten "hired". Never heard that one before. Anyone else been "hired" (contractado)? But I have only very rarely done a chica de Venezuela. Maybe that's a saying from over there? Thanks for sharing all the details. Enjoyed reading of your experience.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3033151]Congrats! I've fucked well over 100 chicas in Medellin and never gotten "hired". Never heard that one before. Anyone else been "hired" (contractado)? But I have only very rarely done a chica de Venezuela. Maybe that's a saying from over there? Thanks for sharing all the details. Enjoyed reading of your experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and glad you enjoyed the story, haha. (Made myself horny going through the memories and writing about it).
I have been with quite a few Venezuelans in Colombia, maybe 1 out of 3 chicas I have sessioned with turn out to be Venes. I don't specifically seek them out, but I do like curvier women, and in my experience the average Vene I've met tend to be curvier (and / or taller) than the average Colombiana, so that might have something to do with my ratio. But I've also never heard "contractado" from any other chica, so that might just be her own shtick.
I still have a lot of reports to write for Bogota (I've already posted a few in the past) and Cartagena. And I'm hoping I'll have several satisfying and memorable hookups during my upcoming trip to Santo Domingo DR to write about, too.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3032998]Okay, so here's a looonnnng overdue report on this meetup:
I matched with this chica on Tinder a few weeks before my trip to Medellin. We chatted for a bit on there, and she was pretty forward about being P4 P (which isn't always the case.) I saved her whatsapp for the future, and then contacted her after I checked into my hotel. She was in her mid-20's, from Medellin, and available that night to come over whenever I wanted her. She quoted me 240 k for 2 hours, which I thought was a really great value considering what I had read on here about Medellin prices. I agreed and sent her the hotel address, and she arrived about an hour later, I met her outside as she was getting out of the taxi.........................[/QUOTE]Nice report overall. Like many have said already be careful with Tinder, or avoid entire in mde if you can. With every crime and drugging that's reported against tourists in mde there are likely 5 not reported. Likely. Also the going rate is 50 k in el centro for 30 mins, so you paid double the going rate LOL. She spotted you as a newb a mile away, even in your words here we can tell you were new to the scene. All good, that area is cheap anyway so paying double aint shit. It's about that time for my Annual trip but hesitating w so much happening. I might go to BOG first then smooth sail to Mde.
[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3033175]Nice report overall. Like many have said already be careful with Tinder, or avoid entire in mde if you can. With every crime and drugging that's reported against tourists in mde there are likely 5 not reported. Likely. Also the going rate is 50 k in el centro for 30 mins, so you paid double the going rate LOL. She spotted you as a newb a mile away, even in your words here we can tell you were new to the scene. All good, that area is cheap anyway so paying double aint shit. It's about that time for my Annual trip but hesitating w so much happening. I might go to BOG first then smooth sail to Mde.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's possible that she saw me as fresh meat. I remember reading on here before that 50 k for 30 minutes was the usual rate in El Centro, so I was a bit surprised when she quoted me double that price. I figured maybe my info had been outdated and the prices had gone up considerably. Or maybe it was because she didn't look like a skinny dirty crack hoe like many of the others did. Most of the ones working around there definitely didn't look like the instagram-ish Parque Lleras chicas, that's for sure. She stood out to me in looks, and her service and personality were well worth the money in the end.
Regarding what's going on between the US and Colombia right now, I'd say bide your time and see how things go. Everything flip-flops so much with our wannabe king. So within a few weeks or months, the situation could be much smoother, or much worse.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3033181]Yeah, it's possible that she saw me as fresh meat. I remember reading on here before that 50 k for 30 minutes was the usual rate in El Centro, so I was a bit surprised when she quoted me double that price. I figured maybe my info had been outdated and the prices had gone up considerably. Or maybe it was because she didn't look like a skinny dirty crack hoe like many of the others did. Most of the ones working around there definitely didn't look like the instagram-ish Parque Lleras chicas, that's for sure. She stood out to me in looks, and her service and personality were well worth the money in the end.
Regarding what's going on between the US and Colombia right now, I'd say bide your time and see how things go. Everything flip-flops so much with our wannabe king. So within a few weeks or months, the situation could be much smoother, or much worse.[/QUOTE]You're right man, if you're already there then cool, otherwise it might not be too smart. Braz is just as good so Imma make my way there instead for a while and just watch first how things develop. Glad you had a good exp. Seriously I miss my centro chicas like a crackhead on forced therapy, some still write LOL. Just know that many of them dress up better and go post in Parque Lleras at night. Not all, but a good chunk of them. If you hang in mde enough you'll know who they are, looking for 400 k victims. They'll smile at you knowing you won't pay that since you already fuckd them for 50 k or 30 k. The going rate is still the same.
I am getting a little worried about all the immigration problems being reported when you arrive to Medellin, my trip is next Tuesday, what countermeasures do you think I should take??
Arriving in Bogota definitely a better strategy if you can do it. A male arriving in MDE is assumed to be traveling for pussy and they are trying to stop that. In Bogota, you're less likely to get that same treatment. And the immigration lines moves way waster.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3032843]You planned on staying 6 months in El Centro? My hat's off to you.[/QUOTE]I normally stay in Laureles for 7 days to visit the online girls and the brothels. Then spend 1-2 weeks in another city. The amount of new girls in Centro is practically nill compared to 2 years ago. Going to Periera for a week to try the street scene there again and visit the hot springs. Fly out of Colombia Oct 29 for a total of 15 days stay. I like to do numbers and in 7 days I have had only 1 new girl. All the others are repeats from 2 years ago. Boring for me. One sexy black girl I had to cancel in my room when she asked for advanced payment. I thought there would be a problem. Hot body and pretty face but her whitish friend had poisoned her mind. That is why I never saw anyone take her. Some guy talked to her for 5 minutes before walking away. Then I tried 5 minutes later and learned why. Pay first is nearly always a horrible experience.
[QUOTE=Ullo200;3033123]Great report and very nice information, can you please exactly tell the name of "Big Balcony Hotel" , I normally stay at hotel nutribara but every time I visit their prices are going up and level of service is going to trash.[/QUOTE]Between the church and the museum. 7 day stay and I did find a small cockroach in my room. Most music noise ends 10:00-10:30. Friday and Saturday night 1 am. 2 years ago it was 1-2:00 am every night. But you have loud druggies yelling in the middle of the night nearly every night for 5 minutes passing by. Mornings are also noisy at times. Try 1-2 nights and change if needed. First girl free and 20,000 after that.
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If you are carrying a US passport I am not sure it is a great idea to do Colombia now -given the back and forth between the governments.
Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.
[QUOTE=Combo;3033339]Arriving in Bogota definitely a better strategy if you can do it. A male arriving in MDE is assumed to be traveling for pussy and they are trying to stop that. In Bogota, you're less likely to get that same treatment. And the immigration lines moves way waster.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobo3;3033433]Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.[/QUOTE]It is frustrating when one posts something with such generalities that nobody can understand what you're trying to say. Were all Americans on the plane detained? Was one American detained? Were all Americans stopped while their phones were searched? Was it just one person? A little more detail, a little more clarity would help and go a long way for people to understand the situation. The only advice that has been posted that seems practical is simply not to have anything on your phone or laptop that could raise a question or suspicion. Applications can be easily deleted and reinstalled afterwards. The information is retained in the cloud, disconnected from the phone.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;3033433]Came in yesterday and americans had their phones searched in line and they we're detained. They have an entire team chat checks these online forums like this one. So any tricks you tell the whole world to skirt the process will eventually be gone because they read what you dummies post.[/QUOTE]I just recently came through Bogota this month and they aren't checking shit. Americans weren't being detained. Phones were not being checked. There is no team looking at online forums.
I arrived yesterday at 5 pm on Copa. There were no other passengers from other flights at immigration. I was first in line in the old folks lane and advanced to the agent almost immediately. He asked two questions, are you on vacation, and in what city. I answered and asked if he needed the address of where I would be staying. He said no, stamped my passport, and I was out before any bags arrived. I had filled out Check-Mig even though there was e banner on their website saying it was undergoing changes.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3033703]I arrived yesterday at 5 pm on Copa. There were no other passengers from other flights at immigration. I was first in line in the old folks lane and advanced to the agent almost immediately. He asked two questions, are you on vacation, and in what city. I answered and asked if he needed the address of where I would be staying. He said no, stamped my passport, and I was out before any bags arrived. [/QUOTE]See. All of the hysteria for nothing. Brother Ram even canceled his trip. Bad Idea to cancel a trip because of internet rumors. Stay off the internet and live your life.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3032732]COPA airlines had the right price and the right landing time but could not purchase ticket on their website. Then I remembered I had the same problem once years ago and went to one of their office locations located nearby. I learned you can easily buy a COPA ticket using Expedia.
I was sleeping when they delivered a small dinner during the flight. Nobody tried to wake me. I asked the stewardess when she was picking up the after dinner trays and she said yes but it never happened. On the way off the plane being one of the last off I said "I missed dinner" as I passed by her and she did not look up from staring at her phone. Fcuk COPA Airlines! I was shocked when I walked around the Panama City Airport and a simple hotdog with packets of relish, mustard, and ketchup cost $7.
I landed and immigration stopped me (my fault). I had been to Colombia 5 times with no problems. But I overstayed 1 week on visit 6 and fined around $150. Then on my 7th visit I overstayed 2 weeks and they walked $320 but I did not pay and signed paper acknowledging so and informed this would accrue interest if I returned. I did not think I would return but changed my mind around 2 years later. The fine jumped to $640. Paid and no problem.
The 17,000 peso bus to town runs 24 hours and so easy. Love it.
Stayed at Hotel Soberano around the corner for 50,000 p. Stayed there years before and the room I had was pretty decent. Not this time. Cockroaches everywhere. I stayed there because I was afraid to walk across Botero Park with all my stuff at 9 pm. I saw a girl I did in the past who was staying at the same hotel and we exchanged info. Took shower and went to her room seeing if she wanted to come visit me and she said later. Two days later and no messages.
I checked the price at Hotel Mandala which has rather small dark rooms clean for 92,000 p. They have a breakfast using the resto next door and they have a foosball table in the office area.
I chose to stay at the Big Balcony Hotel near the church. They have had several owners with several names but everyone knows the one. Hotel Mandala had just boughten it 2 years ago and added free coffee and tea. Then they added a cereal breakfast with prices keep going up. I think it was 90,000 p at the time. I return and see I know the receptionist from the hotel nearest the church and the next day see another receptionist from the same hotel so I feel safer thinking less chance of any room theft. Next day I see the owner and he sees me. He remembered me and bumped fists. It took me a minute to remember him. He and his buddies own the hotel nearest the church (they kicked me out when they changed it to a 100% ST hotel), the Big Balcony hotel, and the hotel as you walk down the side of the church to the casino at the corner and turn left and it is the very first hotel. That hotel is a dark mini maze. You know if you have been there.
Hotel Big Balcony is better now for 70,000 p and my room has a refrigerator. FYI if you have a room with no ref and one is available they will move one to your room. They do not turn on the big outside front lights at the top of the building so it is actually dark at night on the top front facing floor. They fixed my window hinge and electrical plug in (grounding hole plugged) that day I mentioned it. I did not want them to think I broke the window hinge. Loud music stopped at 10:00 pm and then 10:30 pm the next night so I expect even later during the weekend. I have stayed 5 weeks in the past but only 2 days this trip and yet to see a cockroach.
Less than 24 hours here and already seen some guy pissing on a tree, one guy blowing snot from his nose, 2 people picking their nose, endless amounts of homeless druggies. I nearly died from the stench from the 3 porta potties under the metro near Hotel Nutribara. Horrible! The place is a complete circus.
First day and took a repeat from 2 years back. No condom. Came on her back. She asked for 90,000 p and I gave it. She has always been a super sweet girl to me even though the price seemed a little high since we have been together 7 times now.
Second day saw a woman at 5:30 am looking for a customer. 2 hours later and 3 hours after that still at the same location waiting. I tried a new girl. Very pretty. Wanted 60,000 p. At the halfway mark of condomless sex she says cuatro (4). 60+40= 100,000 p. Ok. I finish on her back and clean the mess with a paper towel. Less than thrilled when she washed up her snatch using my sink. I give her 100,000 and she says 300,000 ($77). We have a low level argument and I tell her policia we passed on the main floor. I give her a soda and a hug. All is well once she learned I was not a newbie.
Scotia / Colpatria Bank only let me take out 900,000 p. Used it 2 years ago with the same cards and received 1,500,000 p.
Street scene not as good as 2 years prior. It is early but I see less diamonds in the rough (possibly the cold and rain). The policia always checking the girl's IDs even when of age. I assume this has ran some of the girls away. Police everywhere. Both days had police stay in the hallways of my hotel from 2 pm - 8 pm.
My rose tinted glasses are fogged up. I think my possible 6 month stay will be shortened to 5-6 weeks.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Likewise, there are people saying I don't understand why people fuck prostitutes. Disgusting. Yet here we all are on this forum.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]The majority of people worldwide think prostitutes are ugly, disgusting, invested, and all druggies. Most of us know better than that. Yet here you are on this very site. One of the sweetest sexiest girls I have ever been with I found in Centro. I wish I could post her picture. But I won't because I know someone somewhere has taken her home and looking to marry her. Could be one of you. One never knows. I can tell you that if I was in my 20's I would have fallen in love with that girl and I would be wrapped around her finger. Thank the almighty one I was in my later years when I found her.
Now if you are talking about the area (not the girls) then yes I would agree it is not easy. But I try to stay as near as possible to the women I am hunting.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3033756]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.[/QUOTE]I don't think the vast majority of the girls are the same in the Poblado and Centro areas. On my two trips to Medellin, I spent time walking through both areas and even if most of the centro girls changed dresses, they wouldn't look like the girls you usually see in Parque Lleras. Facically the girls in Lleras are much nicer. I would say that even the girls at the casas like Real Life, although they come in all shapes and sizes, facially are still nicer in my observation than most of the girls who hang around centro.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3033742]Likewise, there are people saying I don't understand why people fuck prostitutes. Disgusting. Yet here we all are on this forum.[/QUOTE]I love this post. Such a long time I don't send a kudos to you.
Assuming you are not on a watch list, you only need to be able to respond to routine questions without exhibiting signs of fear or evasiveness. By routine questions, I'm referring to "what is the purpose of your visit, how long are you planning to stay, what is the address of where you are staying?" Common follow up questions include "what attractions do you plan to visit, how much cash are you carrying?" You need to be able to respond without obvious signs of confusion or struggle. By now I expect everyone knows it's not a good idea to bring a year's supply of sex toys.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3033323]I am getting a little worried about all the immigration problems being reported when you arrive to Medellin, my trip is next Tuesday, what countermeasures do you think I should take??[/QUOTE]
I can see it now. "But officer, grok says you can't look at my phone."
[QUOTE=QueRico;3033102]Just asked grok about this: apparently a phone search in Colombia is illegal without cause or warrant.[/QUOTE]
I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3033734]I don't understand why people stay in el centro with the infestations and druggies. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034092]I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3033756]The El Centro crowd would say I don't understand why people stay in Poblado and pay the girls 8 times what I pay them in El Centro because they are the same girls.[/QUOTE]The girls in Centro are mostly Venniess. Ii find them more friendly and down to earth. I know that Colombians in Medellin know about El Centro and look down on the people working there.
I suppose my sense of humor is somewhat warped. The way they presented the situation and edited the video is what made me laugh. The random shot of the cockroach and the scene of the police chasing down and beating up a robber at dusk added funny flavor to their background narrative. They don't take themselves seriously and I appreciate that.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3034118]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.[/QUOTE]
I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).
My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034089]Assuming you are not on a watch list, you only need to be able to respond to routine questions without exhibiting signs of fear or evasiveness. By routine questions, I'm referring to "what is the purpose of your visit, how long are you planning to stay, what is the address of where you are staying?" Common follow up questions include "what attractions do you plan to visit, how much cash are you carrying?" You need to be able to respond without obvious signs of confusion or struggle. By now I expect everyone knows it's not a good idea to bring a year's supply of sex toys.[/QUOTE]Thank's for answering my message. Yes I think I can answer all the usual questions, I just hope they don't take my cell phone, I don't have any pictures of videos to worry about. But I do have hundreds of contacts in my Facebook and Instagram accounts.
I was thinking erasing all my social media apps, and then I started to think that not having any social media apps may be more of a red flag to immigration, anyway, I am freaking out over thinking this sh*t.
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Medellíand this week for the first time with a group of friends to celebrate a close friend's birthday.
I just realized it's the rainy season, and the forecast shows rain all week — definitely some poor planning on our part!
Does anyone have suggestions for good places to meet besides Laureles Park?
Thanks in advance for the tips!
Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).
My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034092]I found this instagram post about Centro lodging extremely funny: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/rkbackpacking/reel/DQAccYLDvbr/[/URL].[/QUOTE]That is the second place I stayed in Medellin. I stayed there like 3 times in a row. There were no bugs in it back then though. You could go on the roof and holler at chicks coming off the Metro to meet you at the bottom. The rooms are very small but I never intended to spend all day in the room.
[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).[/QUOTE]Why would you assume that? The more you make, the more you spend, so the more you have to make more. Price has nothing to do with how many dicks they are taking. And it is safe to assume that since people are paying so much, then they all have your mindset and are going to want to go raw.
So you would rather rawdog a $100 chick that has rawdogged 70 other dudes in the past month, than get a $20 chick that has used condoms with 100 dudes in the past month.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;3034209]Thank's for answering my message. Yes I think I can answer all the usual questions, I just hope they don't take my cell phone, I don't have any pictures of videos to worry about. But I do have hundreds of contacts in my Facebook and Instagram accounts.
I was thinking erasing all my social media apps, and then I started to think that not having any social media apps may be more of a red flag to immigration, anyway, I am freaking out over thinking this sh*t.[/QUOTE]You are seriously overthinking this shit. I have been to Colombia well over 100 times in 20 years and once they have pulled me in the back room when I was leaving Medellin to do a body scan.
There are a few tens of thousands of people entering that country everyday. What makes you think they are going to single you out for a 3 hour rooter to tooter inspection? Stay off the internet and live in the real world!
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3034245]I'm heading to Medelland this week for the first time with a group of friends to celebrate a close friend's birthday.
I just realized it's the rainy season, and the forecast shows rain all week definitely some poor planning on our part![/QUOTE]The forecast always shows rain everyday. It may rain for 3 minutes or 0 minutes, same as Florida in the USA.
[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).
My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I flat out wouldn't negotiate barebacking with a women I haven't been with yet. Too many uncontrollable things once you've agree to pay a certain amount.
What is far better is, if you find one that you get along with well, and you know it will be worth its, then broach the subject. And you may not even need to bring it up yourself. It's very common for the chicas to hop on without protection once you've been with them a few times and they are comfortable with you. Which to me is a good reason not to repeat too often.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3034263]Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]I think escorts are the least likely to do BBFS. They see guys who are "one offs" why would they put themselves at risk for a few extra pesos. They are also more aware about risks so it would be a hard sell even if you had a test.
I prefer Seeking and Tinder because you can negotiate it. If they say "no" you can move on. The girls who have jobs and need supplemental income are the ones that I find will provide a more gee experience.
Anyone who asks about how much time you want and those types a questions is a "pro" and no-go for me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034279]There are a few tens of thousands of people entering that country everyday. What makes you think they are going to single you out for a 3 hour rooter to tooter inspection? Stay off the internet and live in the real world![/QUOTE]I can imagine him sweating, top suspicious character approaching the immigration line, immediately spotted by the experienced eyes of police trained to detect those who have something to hide.
Midnight Express, if you have seen it.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3034118]Tourist pays $15 for a night in a hotel and find out it's a shithole. Not sure what's funny about it.[/QUOTE]Nostalgy for the old times I went to a REAL shithole in Centro with a young one, in a room for 5000 COP.
Since those old times, I have never spent less than 10000.
[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I will be traveling to Medellin for the second time in a couple weeks with the intention of barebacking at least one girl on my trip. In the interest of minimizing risk, I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites to do this with since I assume they have lower mileage, so to speak (also on PreP and will be bringing DoxyPep on my trip).
My question for those with experience: what's the best time to negotiate barebacking? For any other special request I'd ask ahead of time to not be disappointed later on but in this case I feel like I risk scaring the chica off if I do that. But if I wait until she's already in my hotel room I feel she might be more willing to negotiate now that she's already made the trip (also seeing that I'm relatively young compared to most mongers could help). That's my reasoning anyway. I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on and I am determined to finish inside her and would be willing to pay a serious surcharge for the privilege and I really don't want to screw things up. Would appreciate advice from anyone who's negotiated this sort of thing in the past. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I bring it up when I am in bed naked with the chica. I invite chicas over to my hotel or Airbnb & we have a nice relaxing time. A cocktail or 2, listening to music, some time on the balcony chitchatting, then to the couch for making out & slowly getting the clothes off. We adjourn to the bed & after BBBJ & dining at the why I bring it up before it is time to put it in. I tell them I like it & it is easier to leche for me that way & shockingly some will say ok. If they hesitate I will tell them I have had a vasectomy & my sexual health if excellent. If that doesn't work I tell them I will be more generous if we bareback. Some are a flat out no, others will say make me an offer. I will offer another $20 usd or so, if still a no, then we move on. I think if they have spent some time with you, feel comfortable & you have treated them right there is a better chance of a yes. This has worked for me with many chicas in mde & sjo. Good luck!
Hey Fellas!
The last time I was in Colombia was about 10 years ago. Had a great time at the Medellin Mansion a few times. I was recently putting together plans to go again, and lo and behold, it is now gone for good. The building demolished even.
Just wondering if there are any venues in Medellin that have taken its place. I really liked that it was a small, secure, contained hotel with vetted girls in house, and a bar downstairs. Anything else like that in Medellin?
Or anywhere in the world? A long time ago there was a place in the DR that I really like called Oxygen. Same deal, but more upscale and in a tropical setting.
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Manny51;3034411]Just wondering if there are any venues in Medellin that have taken its place. I really liked that it was a small, secure, contained hotel with vetted girls in house, and a bar downstairs. Anything else like that in Medellin?
Or anywhere in the world? [/QUOTE]Try Jaco, Costa Rica or Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata.
[QUOTE=Pascal1111;3034154]I'm going to likely choose a relatively expensive prepagada from one of the online sites ... I won't lie, there's one chica I've set my sights on [/QUOTE]How much have you talked to this chica? Because my experience trying to book the best looking chicas online from places like Pasion Prepagos earlier this month was that they would string me along, then at the last minute say, "Sorry, I can't make the appointment anymore, but I do have this friend who is available. " and send a photo of a girl significantly less attractive and older. If I said, how about tomorrow etc, it would be the same thing. It's a pretty classic game of bait and switch. When I gave up on them and booked a chica through mileroticos, she showed up and was of course not the girl in the photos. She wasn't overweight or anything, but not as slim and 5/10 face.
Hope and wish it didn't ruin the trip.
Any backup suggestions?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034281]The forecast always shows rain everyday. It may rain for 3 minutes or 0 minutes, same as Florida in the USA.[/QUOTE]
That's good strategy. I was referring to the aftermath.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3034309]I think escorts are the least likely to do BBFS. They see guys who are "one offs" why would they put themselves at risk for a few extra pesos. They are also more aware about risks so it would be a hard sell even if you had a test.
I prefer Seeking and Tinder because you can negotiate it. If they say "no" you can move on. The girls who have jobs and need supplemental income are the ones that I find will provide a more gee experience.
Anyone who asks about how much time you want and those types a questions is a "pro" and no-go for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;3034487]How much have you talked to this chica? Because my experience trying to book the best looking chicas online from places like Pasion Prepagos earlier this month was that they would string me along, then at the last minute say, "Sorry, I can't make the appointment anymore, but I do have this friend who is available. " and send a photo of a girl significantly less attractive and older. If I said, how about tomorrow etc, it would be the same thing. It's a pretty classic game of bait and switch. When I gave up on them and booked a chica through mileroticos, she showed up and was of course not the girl in the photos. She wasn't overweight or anything, but not as slim and 5/10 face.[/QUOTE]You forgot the trick of pictures taken 20 years ago when she started selling her pussy.
Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.
With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.
1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).
2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?
3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.
4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.
Thanks for your input.
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3034491]Hope and wish it didn't ruin the trip. Any backup suggestions?[/QUOTE]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3034662]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would also recommend bringing some light clothes just in case, and don't be ashamed of wearing shorts when the weather is hot (no matter how much some expats might look down on you as a "gringo tourist".) When I was in Medellin in April the weather was surprisingly hot and humid. The City Of Eternal Spring felt like summer, and I was sweating balls almost as much as in Cartagena.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3034662]I would never let rain in Medellin alter my plans in any way. It's never strong like it can be in the United States. It doesn't always last forever. Just bring a light rain jacket and you're good to go. Even outdoor night activities seem to just go on uninterrupted, just that more people move indoors into clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]It can absolutely piss for hours upon hours or days at a time in Medellin. There are several deaths per year directly attributed to the rain. Thankfully, you can always spend a buck or two on a plastic capa which are sold in abundance throughout the city when it is raining. Also, traffic is insane when it rains because most locals are already bad drivers, then mix in poor drainage, bad windshield wipers, and thousands of motorcycles.
That being said, I would change any plans because of the expectation or forecast of rain, as the OP stated, but it can definitely come out of nowhere and change your plans for you.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3034710]It can absolutely piss for hours upon hours or days at a time in Medellin. There are several deaths per year directly attributed to the rain. Thankfully, you can always spend a buck or two on a plastic capa which are sold in abundance throughout the city when it is raining. Also, traffic is insane when it rains because most locals are already bad drivers, then mix in poor drainage, bad windshield wipers, and thousands of motorcycles.
That being said, I would change any plans because of the expectation or forecast of rain, as the OP stated, but it can definitely come out of nowhere and change your plans for you.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I was in MDE in January several years back and it rained hard almost non-stop for four days straight (and January is supposedly less rainy than most months).
If you spend time in MDE, you learn to deal with the rain. Buy an umbrella and have clothes that can work with rain. And have a comfortable place so chicas can come to you.
Okay yes it rains a shit ton in MDE, but the pussys are wet. Don't let the rain scare you away.
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3034650]Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.
With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.
1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).
2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?
3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.
4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]IMO, very few women in Costa Rica compare favorably to the women in Medellin, both in appearence and performance.
I stopped going to casas years ago because I didn't find quality.
Plaza Botero is in el Centro. You'll likely find some women in el Centro who compare in appearence to Ticas, but not many. They're on the lower scale of women in Medellin.
Why would you plan to change hotels for a three-day visit? My recomendation is to stay in el Poblado (Parque Lleras is located there).
Forget about finding non-pros. If they will have sex with you the day you meet them, they are not non-pros.
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3034650]Hi mongers. I am torn if to go to MDE for the first time vs Costa Rica in mid December. Been to Costa Rica a handful of times and stayed at Taormina and Jaco to make my life easier. However I know I am paying a premium for that convenience but I can only stay for 3 days max.
With that being said, my plans are the following. Feel free to add your two cents.
1) between night clubs - (glow, the isla club) and casas, besides the time of the day which one is more convenient and what casas do you recommend (looking for quality).
2) People tell me to go to el centro and plaza botero in the afternoon before heading to lleras at night to check the talent. Are el centro and plaza botero the same?
3) Was planning to stay at a hotel nutibarra at el centro and haven hotel in el Poblado specifically. Unless AirBnB outweights these two? If so feel free to PM for recommendations.
4) during day time to meet non. Pros, I was going to go to the shopping centers or download tinder and bumble. Which do you recommend.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]For both of my trips to MDE, I stayed at the former Mansion hotel in Poblado but took the public transit during the daytime to centro. From there I walked to New Life casa where I had decent sessions both times I visited. I did fast walk throughs centro just to gawk as it was more of a cultural experience than a mongering one. Plaza Botero is part of centro where the fat sculptures are. After New Life and a quick bite at a local cafe, I simply took the transit back to Poblado. Do really no need to stay in centro in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3035048]For both of my trips to MDE, I stayed at the former Mansion hotel in Poblado but took the public transit during the daytime to centro. From there I walked to New Life casa where I had decent sessions both times I visited. I did fast walk throughs centro just to gawk as it was more of a cultural experience than a mongering one. Plaza Botero is part of centro where the fat sculptures are. After New Life and a quick bite at a local cafe, I simply took the transit back to Poblado. Do really no need to stay in centro in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Aahhh, the good old days! I was very happy with the talent at the Mansion, particularly during the weekdays. I only strolled to the square or nightclubs on the weekends, when the Mansion wasn't staffed, or to eat. The Ajiaco at Mondongo's! Or at that mall way down the street, where the food court had a super awesome bandeja paisa.
And there was this MILF that gave fantastic massages. I can't remember her name, but you guys know who I am talking about.
How am I supposed to know where the casas are? I'm aware of the "well known" places through looking on here, but what about the rest? Are they easy to spot when walking by? If not then how?
I'm expecting these places will do a line up when I drop in?
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035104]How am I supposed to know where the casas are? I'm aware of the "well known" places through looking on here, but what about the rest? Are they easy to spot when walking by? If not then how?
I'm expecting these places will do a line up when I drop in?[/QUOTE]You will not know a place is a casa when walking by. You need an address to find the casas. The addressing scheme is fairly easy once you know the concept. Calle (CL) runs one way and Carrera (Cra) runs perpendicular to it. House numbers start counting from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life address is CL 56 #43-39. It is on Calle 56, #39 from the intersection with Cra 43. Even numbered houses are on one side of the street, odd numbers on the other side.
Most casas will do a line up if enough ladies are there. You will probably have to pay for the lineup or buy a drink.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3035124]You will not know a place is a casa when walking by. You need an address to find the casas. The addressing scheme is fairly easy once you know the concept. Calle (CL) runs one way and Carrera (Cra) runs perpendicular to it. House numbers start counting from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life address is CL 56 #43-39. It is on Calle 56, #39 from the intersection with Cra 43. Even numbered houses are on one side of the street, odd numbers on the other side.
Most casas will do a line up if enough ladies are there. You will probably have to pay for the lineup or buy a drink.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. Paying for a line up seems crazy.
So, is it a case of booking a particular girl in advance from a web advert? I have been assuming that I'd be just dropping in and then choosing a girl from a line up (or one-by-one introductions.) I'm slightly disappointed if that's not how they operate.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3033353]I normally stay in Laureles for 7 days to visit the online girls and the brothels. Then spend 1-2 weeks in another city. The amount of new girls in Centro is practically nill compared to 2 years ago. Going to Periera for a week to try the street scene there again and visit the hot springs. Fly out of Colombia Oct 29 for a total of 15 days stay. I like to do numbers and in 7 days I have had only 1 new girl. All the others are repeats from 2 years ago. Boring for me. One sexy black girl I had to cancel in my room when she asked for advanced payment. I thought there would be a problem. Hot body and pretty face but her whitish friend had poisoned her mind. That is why I never saw anyone take her. Some guy talked to her for 5 minutes before walking away. Then I tried 5 minutes later and learned why. Pay first is nearly always a horrible experience.
Between the church and the museum. 7 day stay and I did find a small cockroach in my room. Most music noise ends 10:00-10:30. Friday and Saturday night 1 am. 2 years ago it was 1-2:00 am every night. But you have loud druggies yelling in the middle of the night nearly every night for 5 minutes passing by. Mornings are also noisy at times. Try 1-2 nights and change if needed. First girl free and 20,000 after that..[/QUOTE]I got it, it Casa Botero, I have tried it in the past, its cheaper but not good as nutribara, also when I left outside someone stole my new cloths from room and they don't take any responsibility for that.
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035158]Thank you for the reply. Paying for a line up seems crazy.
So, is it a case of booking a particular girl in advance from a web advert? I have been assuming that I'd be just dropping in and then choosing a girl from a line up (or one-by-one introductions.) I'm slightly disappointed if that's not how they operate.[/QUOTE]Paying for the line up is only there to prevent people who have no intention of going with a chica or spending any money. And it is a very small amount in any case. Not worth worrying about. And the casas generally do not have online picking available. That is for other types of businesses with online escorts. So you would be picking from a line up or from whoever is available.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;3035171]Paying for the line up is only there to prevent people who have no intention of going with a chica or spending any money. And it is a very small amount in any case. Not worth worrying about. And the casas generally do not have online picking available. That is for other types of businesses with online escorts. So you would be picking from a line up or from whoever is available.[/QUOTE]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035188]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?[/QUOTE]New Life casa was on Google Maps and the entrance is an iconic blue door next to a cafe. I believe all better known casas can be found this way.
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;3035188]Fair enough but if there's no online selection then I suppose I have to return to my original question: how do I know where the casas are located?[/QUOTE]Under the ISG Forum for Colombia you can find at least 3 other threads or blogs with maps and lists for casas and strip clubs in Medellin. Look especially for posts by World Travel 69. Any newcomer is also well advised to peruse the Reports of Distinction thread.
It's been a solid few months in Antioquia this year. I've covered the whole oriente small towns, backroads, the works. A lot's shifted since pre-pandemic, but the core game's still recognizable.
When I first rolled in, Fase II was 190 mil, independents 150 mil standard. GFE was the default; half the time money never came up until the end, and 150 was fine. Travel companions were a text awaydomestic trip for the price of two quick sessions.
I stay out of Lleras now. Word is the girls there shark harder than ever.
Veracruz and the Laureles / Beland casas still deliver. Plenty of cute floaters passing through, easy to swap contacts. The best-looking Colombianas I've met this year all came from those spots. Catch is, they vanish fast.
The top 5 cutest of this trip were not expensive dates. I just got lucky.
Curiosity pushed me onto a romance app. Breaks my rule: stick to the agenda, stay safe.
Some sharp 30-somethings will play for a glamping weekend, no cash exchanged.
Younger and cute? They're waiting for the offer. Took ten out for coffee or ice creameight of them were eager to hear my cash proposals. The others never "charged," but Rappi orders and Guatap overnights added up quick.
The girlfriend act is bait. They want a guy who believes the broke-college-girl sob story. That's how setups happendrugged, rolled, gone.
*Warning: walking out of a short-stay motel, a cop flagged me down, made me unlock my phone, scrolled my gallery for ten seconds, shook my hand, and waved me off. No words, no hassle, just a reminder who's watching.
2 weeks after my return to the USA. My 12th trip to Colombia in 5 years. I was there for 1 month.
It began in Bogota. Including sessions with LaCelestina, LasIncredibles and other girls I found on-line. Over 2 weeks I also visited Lido (quite often) , Loutron, Mora Mora and others in Zona T (Hooters) . I had to cancel on 3 of them (my favorites from previous visits) because I ran out of time. I highly recommend anyone that wants quality to save your money, get their phone numbers and wait to do the deed outside their clubs. I know everyone wants info on $. So If you are picky. PPM costs $75 usd / hour with a #9 or #10 working as an escort. At the clubs they will ask for insane prices. If you have personality you can find real gems if you take them to dinner and then bed. Maybe $100 Quickies. Are cheap in Santa Fe. Not cheap at Lido. $200 usd + I will admit I focused on one amazing dancer (professional 18 years old) I got her number and bought her a ticket to fly to Medellin. Circumstances changed. She danced for me 2 nights nonstop, Everyone in the club was watching us. I gave her 300 cop in total over 2 nights. Hope to see her again. IMHO Lido compares to Sao Paulo clubs quality with fewer girls and mixed with subpar, but the hot ones are amazing. Except for the prices they will quote you, Ignore that.
I had a doctor friend of mine meet me in Bogota. We traveled together for 2 weeks and I showed him around both Bogota and Medellin.
In Medellin for 2 weeks I went to La Isla and Fase Dos but after the girls I had met elsewhere. It felt like a complete waste of time. 3 years ago it was terrific. Not anymore, too many gringos from Florida. LOL Those girls want at least 500 cop, some 1 mil. I took my friend to see Loutron, but he seemed shy. I think they wanted 500-600 cop there. The streets of Poblado are swarming with a combination of fat & ugly girls along with others that are semi hot but by this time I had one in my bed so I did not care. My traveling friend scoped up 2 there. I did one, 500 cop.
I met a girl in Medellin (X cam girl and also a teacher) and we stayed together for 8 nights. She was an ideal travel partner, interpreter and fun to be with. Sleeping next to her naked every night was an experience I did not plan on and I stayed a week longer because of it. Probably more than a fling. Went to Parque Arvi etc. We will see each other again. Happy person and fun.
A week in Medellin with a "normal" beautiful girl cost me nothing but dinners, tours and I bought her some clothes. $350 COP We stayed in Humers hotel / then an Airbnb.
So now I am looking inwards. Asking myself how much longer do I want to do this? The Medellin girl could be a full time relationship. She wants it. Time will tell.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3035298]I met a girl in Medellin (X cam girl and also a teacher) and we stayed together for 8 nights. She was an ideal travel partner, interpreter and fun to be with. Sleeping next to her naked every night was an experience I did not plan on and I stayed a week longer because of it. Probably more than a fling. Went to Parque Arvi etc. We will see each other again. Happy person and fun.
A week in Medellin with a "normal" beautiful girl cost me nothing but dinners, tours and I bought her some clothes. $350 COP We stayed in Humers hotel / then an Airbnb.
So now I am looking inwards. Asking myself how much longer do I want to do this? The Medellin girl could be a full time relationship. She wants it. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Its fun to do guatape, jardin, Santorini in doradal, or just stay in the city with a calm and quiet Colombiana presenting herself in the "novia" wrapper.
The risk is that so many will spin the relationship in this context. They know they will get more out of this type of deal versus a one time rate if the guy gets his feelings involved.
A couple chicas from the dating app bragged to me how guys will paypal them money, bring ebay refurb macbooks, spend big money going to Santa Marta, Cartagena, Mexico, and even Spain / Italy.
The thing I always ask myself: is she only doing this stuff with me?
I'm sure someone will reply and tell me how wonderful their Paisa / Rola novia is an angel, but this is not my experience. Most of them show signs of a personality disorder when a serious type relationship develops. They are secretly very jealous of foreigners with the means to travel and spend.
If the extranero lives here, has Spanish, dances merigue / cumbia, and can navigate their childish behavior = it may have a chance of being somewhat "real".
I don't trust any of them out of my sight or even within my sight. The excuses: have to work late, stomach ache, head ache, have class late, family dinner today, mama is upset, sister broke an ankle, lets take things slow, and on and on and on. These chicas are just playing the game.
One of them that I kinda trusted found a business card from a San Andresito jeweler on my counter top. I caught her looking through my bedroom closet 15 minutes later.
Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.
Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.
Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.
Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.
Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!
Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]
Lolitta Spa. Cra. 86 #44 see-58 Apt 201 Did not visit.
Santa Spa (house) I was there 3 years ago and yesterday. The girl I wanted was not there or was so photoshopped I was not interested in the real girl so walked out. Cra. 80 #32 EE-21.
Golden House (house) Did not take because the black girl I wanted was not there because she never existed to begin with or quit long ago. Bait and switch crap! Cra. 80 A #36-21.
Cropolis 9 building Apt 604 is the presentation room. Basically there are like 4 rooms and they have the whole floor. The security people know why you are there if you are asking to go to the 6th floor. I texted I would be there in 30 minutes. The super hot girl was not there or did not exist. I was willing to take a different girl but then they tried to increase the price 20,000 p and that took me over the edge and I walked out. Bait and switch with a price increase pissed me off so much that I refused to give them my money. Cra. 69 see #32 see-80.
Angeles Spa. Cra. 81 #42-60 Never went. They want a 30,000 presentation fee that will applied to the girls fee if you take a girl. I hate that crap!
Took a girl from another one of these places but forgot the address. So took 2 girls in 2 days and the 3rd day I was so pissed off at my wasted time I took a bus to Centro. Had a good F and returned to Laureles to my hotel since it was paid for and I like the area.
I have done this off and on in many cities around Colombia and only for 3 days and give up. Only 20% match their pictures. That is an 80% failure rate. Some of that was during covid when I was here for and so had no choice in the matter.
The names of the brothel / spas do not matter. The names change and sometimes they use multiple company names for the same location. Whatsapp numbers do not matter because they use a million different numbers and most the time it is the person running the place and not the real girl anyways. They will always tell you the girl you want is there now waiting for you. Pictures do not matter because they were taken years ago, photoshopped to death, or the picture simple taken off the internet. Price also means little. It is just a guide. One place listed 100,000 but not for how long. I got there they listed their prices for 15,30, and 60 minutes. Funny how none matched with the 100,000 p listed on the website. So the answer is the paragraph below.
Try this. Go to Google maps. Enter all the addresses I listed above and save each one with the "SAVE" button. Then take 2-3 hours and walk to 3 of them between 3-6 pm. Not as many girls as after 6 pm but easier to find. It is a nice walk through residential areas and you can find some nice neighborhood restaurants and hotels this way. Relaxing walk. After 3 spas you will love it or hate it. You should notice that they all have roughly the same quality. Mostly a little thick (plump) and ages 22-33 with many fake boobs. Most are 170,000 p.
Every advertisement you see on Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka, etc, ask if there are other girls at that location because you want a presentation to see ALL the girls.
I never tried doing this in El Poblado, but should have. I did go once 3 years ago for a short girl with REAL (not fake) big boobs for 180,000 and saw her twice. Picture was 100% correct. Higher prices in El Poblado but MAYBE have higher rate of real pix being used.
I was supposed to stay 2 months but 2 weeks was enough. Not returning for this level of crap. Too many problems for too little success in quality and quantity I wanted.
Sad. The day I was leaving I found a hot young (18-20) girl with her mom sitting on the bench next to me. I got her to the room and she asked for the much dreaded PRE-payment. Walked out and had a repeat girl instead. The one who briefly demanded 300,000 for no condom sex before figuring out I was not going to pay. Funny thing is I finally remembered why she seemed so familiar. I used to do her friend (4 times) 3 years ago. I wanted her 3 years ago but I had a bad vibe about her but tried to take her once and I could tell just while waiting to pay for the room she was going to be a pain in the ass. She asked for a drink, would not look at me, and some other stuff. Before paying for the room I walked out. But 3 years later and taking her for the second time she was great. Yes, I know that is very rare.
In Feb 2008, my first visit to MDE, the immigration guy, after asking why I was there and me saying "turismo", he says, "well, you know, there are a lot of pretty girls here and I think you should take advantage of that!!
So different!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3032830]I can remember being asked the what is the purpose of your visit question and the follow up question of what sort of attractions do you plan to visit as long ago as 2008.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.
I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Quick Pereira visit for 4 days. Only visited the street scene at Parque Libertad several times one Saturday on a nice partly sunny day from 2-8 pm. Only saw 4 doables and did 2. First was an 8. Told her tip if she was good. It did not help. She looked at her imaginary watch on her wrist at the 10 minute mark. I came but not thrilled. Gave small tip. Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. But just below it where the stretch marks I could not see until it was too late. Good attitude with no problems. 3 years ago there were twice as many doables but I only visited one day so not a fair comparison.
Medellin Laureles brothel / spas.
Dating House. CL. 42 #71-08 They were asking 220,000 hour price which seemed high. I expected the same crap I had been getting elsewhere so skipped it since the others were asking 170,000.
Unknown name (Sugar Spa?) Cra. 74 #49-107 Was there 3 years ago. Do not knock. Use buzzer / bell. Once in there is nothing but a staircase to the 3rd floor that ends at their door. Nothing else. Nowhere to go but to the top to their door. Simple!
Took this girl but should not have. She was ok. Problem was they gave me a presentation of the girls and she was not in it. So I asked for the young girl and they finally brought her. She looks 16. Different ads have different ages (20,22). But in real she looks 23. See fake pix below.
[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/laureles-estadio/flaca-exotica-educada-y-complaciente-tu-amante-perfecta-id-r5pgu[/URL]...[/QUOTE]
I don't think that is a new policy. The enforcement may be more stringent. I think you will be fine if you keep it discreet. If you are worried there are always places like the San Peter and the other punter clubhouses around town.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. Has anyone had issues with this new policy? So now you can get denied entry and waste your money because most Airbnbs are not refundable on a short notice, even if you have travel insurance. On top of that, Airbnb can kick you out any time if they somehow find out you invited a sex worker / sugar baby. Wow. RIP trips to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Time to review which hotels are guest friendly in central Medellin.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035350]Took a thin black girl in bikini top where I could see her belly button. [/QUOTE]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?
Sorry if this has been answered. Basic q.
Is there any difference between chicas in parque Lleras clubs vs outside? Quality service baddie rating etc?
What's the incentive for a chica to go in vs standing walking outside? Better client chances? More $?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3035426]I haven't been to Colombia for over a year, and when booking an Airbnb I just noticed they have a new rule, basically saying that Airbnb is against sexual tourism, prostitution, paid sex, etc at any property that is listed. Violation of the said policy will result in your account removal and cancellation of your reservation. So this new policy applies to ANY Airbnb property in the country, even if individual host's policy or building policy doesn't prohibit visitors as long as they are 18+ and provide ID. [/QUOTE]Airbnb has had that policy for awhile. As I remember what a renter has to agree to, Airbnb says they don't approve of sexual tourism, but it doesn't forbid it; but a host's listing may be suspended if they advertise for sexual tourism. I'm currently in an Airbnb apartment in Laureles and I haven't had any problems with ladies visiting me.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3035319]Its fun to do guatape, jardin, Santorini in doradal, or just stay in the city with a calm and quiet Colombiana presenting herself in the "novia" wrapper.
The risk is that so many will spin the relationship in this context. They know they will get more out of this type of deal versus a one time rate if the guy gets his feelings involved.
A couple chicas from the dating app bragged to me how guys will paypal them money, bring ebay refurb macbooks, spend big money going to Santa Marta, Cartagena, Mexico, and even Spain / Italy.
The thing I always ask myself: is she only doing this stuff with me?
I'm sure someone will reply and tell me how wonderful their Paisa / Rola novia is an angel, but this is not my experience. Most of them show signs of a personality disorder when a serious type relationship develops. They are secretly very jealous of foreigners with the means to travel and spend..[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree and in my 15 years here in Medellin have seen it all and SO for myself the "ILLUSION" is gone, yet my reasoned / balanced / sound advice always falls on deaf ears so as you may have noticed whereas at one time (8 to 12 years ago on these forum boards and in person to visiting friends and acquaintances) I have all but given up here on ISG.
My advice. It is all an ILLUSION, all of them / all of it.
Take it for what it is, simply hit it and forget it. She is not your girl rather it's just your turn.
Trust me it is ALL transactional. Forget any thought or idea about finding a soul mate, romance, lover, trusted friend, wife, confidant and partner.
I am not saying that they are working girls, no! But consider this:
The typical paisa is what they called harlots in past generations yet they give the ILLUSION that they are a Proverbs Chapter 31 woman ready and available for a relationship.
I said enough, stay safe.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3035495]Did the Black girl in Parque Libertad have a tattoo of writing down her leg?[/QUOTE]Tats do not jump out much on a black girl so I did not notice. There are very few black girls. Even fewer that are skinny with a narrow pretty face, easy going, and friendly girl. Best I can do to describe her.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3035427]I think the best part of your guidance is go see which girls are available and don't rely on online photos or you will suffer bait and switch scams. I know where you are coming from about the frustration of spending so much time for so little return. I don't see a way to justify it if you are visiting from out of town. The casas are the better use of vacation time in my opinion. I'm a Centro Rat at heart. As much as I enjoy it I understand how it doesn't really work for guys who are here for only days at a time.[/QUOTE]This is a much faster and easier method than most of that online dating site BS. I find Centro the best for me with a few limited brothels second best for selection and speed to get her into bed. What I listed are mini brothels that are not well known. A few guys will think it is awesome if they are into thicker older girls with a few fake boobs thrown in and a nice daytime stroll through the neighborhood of Laureles. I had all the time time in the world and could stay 6 months if I wanted to but I knew I could do better elsewhere so I went elsewhere.
That's been done many times here. At one time there was a thread just for that. Maybe there still is.
I do not do the online dating sites, El Poblado scene, drinking, or overnight stays. But was thinking about the scoping stuff so many worry about. This is simply what I would do if I played in that sandbox.
Before you even bother to meet her get her Facebook account where her friends and family are. If she will not share it there is a problem. If she has less than 20 friends there is a problem.
Once you meet, tell her she is super sexy and to pose for some pictures. Why? Because her pictures on the website will be slightly Photoshopped making clear identification difficult. Also, make sure her tattoos on the photo match what she really has. Easy way for her to get away when she shows the police her tattoos do not match the ones in the Tinder or Bumble pictures or pictures shows tattoos and in real she has none.
Tell her you are scared because of all the scoping happening that you wanted a current clear picture of her face that you sent to your friend. Tell that way she will be easy to identify and find when her picture is shown on the local TV news. She does not want to be caught and does not want all her friends and family to know. If she has no ill intentions this should not bother her. If she is a scoper she will leave right then and there (suddenly sick haha).
Tell the office staff or security guard to not let her out unless you are with her. Make sure she hears this.
You made it to your room. If she tries to get you drink before sex that is a bad sign. Your best bet is to go straight to the bedroom. These scoping chicks do not want to have sex with you and will fight tooth and nail for a drink first. She wants you drugged as soon as possible.
Lastly, buy a $20-$50 mini spy camera you can buy Amazon, ebay, and everywhere so you can watch the LIVE video from your phone. Aim one above and one to the side of where you place your drink and test the picture before your date. Open bottle / can or pour a drink into a glass. Open the spy camera app on your phone so you do not miss a second of what is happening. Say you need to go to the bathroom. Place the drink somewhere away from her so that she has to physically stand up and cross the room to put something in it. This makes it clear to you and the police why she went to your drink versus you leave it at the table you are both sitting at. If she reached over for your drink she can simply say she wanted to know if it was cold because her drink was hot or that she was simply reading the ingredients or wanted a closer look because she thought the glass was cool looking. Hard to explain to you and the police why she got up and touched your drink placed across the room. If she is bad call security downstairs to call the police (or call directly) from the bathroom and get her arrested!
BONUS ROUND!
Now if we use my method and we get 5 of these girls arrested within a short time frame of less than a year, then the word will get out that the gringos are dangerous. This should cause these scoping problems to drop considerably once these girls personally know a girl who has been arrested.
Keep in mind that even if you have been with her on many visits there will always be a 5-10% chance of being drugged. Why? Simple. Her kids, friends, and family will always mean more to her. If any of them are in the hospital, you instantly turn into an ATM card. Also, there are a few that play the long game trying to get banking info and such.
Today is a holiday here in Colombia. Things are pretty chill. I was reflecting on old times sitting here looking at old cards and thinking about all the casas and 2 4 1 specials that seem like just yesterday but disappeared about 6 years ago. Crazy times we're in now reading posts about getting Scoped, immigration questions and the rest. I'll probably venture out and hit what's left of El Centro this week for some fun later this week.
This year I have had several swear up and down they would never accept cash.
But they all did and then claim it was my idea and not theirs.
"Looking for a serious relationship, family, finca in rio negro, and a dog".
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;3035545]Trust me it is ALL transactional.[/QUOTE]
I've never paid bareback in Medellin. I usually lay back and ask them to start in cowgirl with the condom visible. Either she grabs the condom or she jumps on me. A surprising number will just hop on without saying a thing. Some will have a half assed talk about being clean before jumping on. I've literally been pulled ontop of / into chica raw before without a chance to grab a condom even. Back in 2022 I had a chica arguing with me that I didn't need a condom since she had her tubes tied. The ones that are most open to raw tend to be the most barrio ones (doesn't mean not hot). I also find when there is good chemistry and repeat that many will do the second or third time raw. I've had a few long term amigovias and dated a chick and raw usually is the norm in those situations but depends on the girl. I've yet to have a raw trio, though I haven't really pushed for it.
[QUOTE=Shemp;3034366]I bring it up when I am in bed naked with the chica. I invite chicas over to my hotel or Airbnb & we have a nice relaxing time. A cocktail or 2, listening to music, some time on the balcony chitchatting, then to the couch for making out & slowly getting the clothes off. We adjourn to the bed & after BBBJ & dining at the why I bring it up before it is time to put it in. I tell them I like it & it is easier to leche for me that way & shockingly some will say ok. If they hesitate I will tell them I have had a vasectomy & my sexual health if excellent. If that doesn't work I tell them I will be more generous if we bareback. Some are a flat out no, others will say make me an offer. I will offer another $20 usd or so, if still a no, then we move on. I think if they have spent some time with you, feel comfortable & you have treated them right there is a better chance of a yes. This has worked for me with many chicas in mde & sjo. Good luck![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogLife;3035342]Second time in Medellin this year. Braced for the rumored phone searches at immigration. Turns out, no drama. Just pura vida and a quick stamp.[/QUOTE]You were in Costa Rica or Colombia.
We visited Medellin from October 30th to November 3rd. The immigration process was smooth, with no issues or extensive searches to report. The lines were long, however, so be sure to allow at least an hour for processing. Otherwise, we had no complaints.
I think we were lucky to have avoided rain interrupting our plans. It rained intermittently, but never enough to alter our activities. The weather was awesome and the environment was perfect for everything we wanted to do.
NewLife stands out from other similar establishments thanks to its wide range of options. Over two days, we explored several places in the area, but ended up choosing NewLife both times. For the bargain price, the service exceeded expectations—no complaints at all.
We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long!
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035923]We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long![/QUOTE]A lots of place are like this in south america. Things are celebrated in family and not in public place. Best place on earth for holidays like halloween and christmass for vacacation is probably Pattaya.
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035923]We were in Colombia for Halloween and thought it would be all about wild parties and packed streets. Turns out, the locals celebrate the whole weekend with different traditions and names, so Halloween night itself was surprisingly chill. It was mostly tourists out and about, which caught us off guard at first. Later, we found out that a lot of Colombians prefer spending Halloween evening with their families, so the local crowd is way smaller compared to other nights. Still, the girls and I had a blast exploring, dancing, and soaking up the festive vibes all weekend long![/QUOTE]It is not a Colombian thing. Only has been at all due to influence of media and US tourists. The Day of the dead is the next day and may be more of a traditional thing, although not as much as in Mexico I think.
Halloween is an American thing, and more or less the same in Canada, but in other places in the world it is only even known about because of American influence.
[QUOTE=RacShack;3035790]You were in Costa Rica or Colombia.[/QUOTE]Colombia.
United Airways. Houston to Medellin non stop.
[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3035921]NewLife stands out from other similar establishments thanks to its wide range of options. Over two days, we explored several places in the area, but ended up choosing NewLife both times. For the bargain price, the service exceeded expectationsno complaints at all.[/QUOTE]I don't know which were the days you went. Went both on Sunday and Monday.
Sunday was slim pickings with the B or C team.
Monday was a disaster as there were only 4 or 5 girls, bottom of the barrel. With 15 guys waiting. Learnt it was a National holiday: All Saints' Day.
Maybe the earlier robbery last month at this location has impacted the establishment.
Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.
My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036375]Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.
My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.[/QUOTE]In all my trips I've found it's luck of the draw.
Went through Bogota last night and was worried as I had a tight connection. Until I saw absolutely no lines, for Colombianos or extranjenos.
Made it with a few minutes to spare to find my connection was also delayed but that's Colombia.
The absolute worst time in my experience during a shift change.
Hey guys,
Very long story short: my ex was a crazy sex-addict, we had an open relationship. We were living in Philippines, and had our 'lifestyle' for 2 years while living in Thailand.
She could see guys like once a month or so, sometime with me (had a few threesomes and even foursomes) sometime without me, especially since I was abroad for a few months sometime. Always filming it for me, so she was kind of my girl and my pornstar. Always secure, always 100 % honest. Very addictive shit. Broke up for other reasons and. I guess in 'cheating-Paisa-land', some woman could be receptive to this kind of idea, no? But I have an hard time realizing if I just was so crazy lucky, and if apart from prepagos, no women would ever do that. What would be my best bets to meet such women here (please don't say Parque Lleras) that are NOT prepagos. I mean, I would maybe not mind a prepago / webcam girl / actual pornstar (I think that industry is getting huge here lately) but would have no idea how to meet them, and scared of too much drama.
Cheers, thanks for your advices.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036375]Last time I waited 3 hours to get through immigration. Arrival was 2 pm or so. This time I decided to try early morning arrival mid-week. Big difference. There were 6 immigration agents working and it only took 10 minutes which is the shortest that I have ever encountered.
My guess is that early morning or late night would be best for shorter lines. The day of the week and holidays are also a consideration if you want shorter lines.[/QUOTE]2 pm is the worst in the early afternoon. I think before 12 pm is best.
For those who don't speak Spanish, it can be a bit overwhelming trying to understand what people are saying. I would just try to use Google Translate to try to understand what I am being asked to and to answer. Of course, the ultimate solution is to learn Spanish but some don't have the time to learn it or can't make the effort. I know that people say that it is easy to learn Spanish but especially for the older gents, it is not that easy but you can easily learn some basic phrases and that is better than nothing.
I know that people always like to talk about taking that bus from the airport to the mall and then taking a taxi to save some money but I am usually tired after that flight and with luggage, I just want to get to the hotel as soon as possible without any hassles. White taxi for 118 mil direct to your hotel. It is worth it to me but if you are tight on cash, yes, I would take that bus.
You can get cash from the ATM at the airport. I like the green ATM upstairs. I don't remember the name of the bank but it starts with a S. You can withdrawn 2,000,000 pesos so you will be flush with pesos from day one.
I have a SIM from a previous trip. Wi-Fi is available at the airport. I don't know if you can buy a SIM card at the airport or load. Last time I got a SIM card, I was informed that it needed to be registered or there would be issues in the future. So I did go to the cellphone company outlet to register my SIM card. I usually just buy load from a convenience store when I get into town. It is relatively cheap to buy load.
I actually had an issue with my Abnb. The wrong address was provided because the owner did not want to give out the correct address to Abnb due to concerns. Now, the owner usually messages the correct address directly to the renter but in this case, she forgot. So I am at the wrong address and I don't have load on my cellphone and there is no one there. Eventually I found a place with WiFi and was able to contact the owner to get the right address. She apologized and said she forgot. A little bit of stress there on my first day!
I had arranged for one of favorite girls to visit later that afternoon and she came on time, looking great as usual. 19 years old, pretty, great body, great in bed. It was a good way to start the trip.
Afterwards I had some wonderful tacos. That is my favorite meal here.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3036471]2 pm is the worst in the early afternoon. I think before 12 pm is best.[/QUOTE]There have been many stories of phone searches and a large number of questions as to the purpose of your trip. I will only tell you how my experience with immigration went.
Just in case, I deleted all chats on WhatsApp and Messenger related to girls, and I deleted all pictures of girls on my cellphone and on Google Cloud. Everything is on a thumb drive that I left at home.
After my ten minute wait, I go to the immigration officer and give him my passport. I had filled out the MIG form so he has the information that he needs. He doesn't ask me any questions and doesn't ask to inspect my phone. After a minute, he gives me back my passport and that is my experience.
There is a final part where you are directed to the left where your luggage is x-rayed or directed to the right where you just walk out with your luggage. The officer tells me to go to the right and there is no luggage inspection.
All in all, it went very well and quickly without any hassles. Of course, your experience may differ.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036581]There have been many stories of phone searches and a large number of questions as to the purpose of your trip. I will only tell you how my experience with immigration went.
[/QUOTE]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.
[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL]
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.
[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medellíand a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]Agree. A single male traveler entering MDE is susceptible to more scrutiny. Why take any chances? No condoms, no Viagra, no x rated videos on phone.
And I would think everyone knows you need a 6-month buffer on the expiration of your passport.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036516]You can get cash from the ATM at the airport. I like the green ATM upstairs. I don't remember the name of the bank but it starts with a S. You can withdrawn 2,000,000 pesos so you will be flush with pesos from day one.[/QUOTE]I can tell you that the Davivienda ATM upstairs will also give you 2 mil pesos with a small handling fee (be sure to decline any conversion offers).
[QUOTE]I have a SIM from a previous trip. Wi-Fi is available at the airport. I don't know if you can buy a SIM card at the airport or load. Last time I got a SIM card, I was informed that it needed to be registered or there would be issues in the future.[/QUOTE]There is a CLARO outlet right at the airport as you walk out (right side) which can sell you a SIM and register your phone properly. Failing to register a phone officially if using a local SIM means they will eventually lock it from use. In any country even back home. This is why I just don't bother and I use an eSIM instead (for faster data).
[QUOTE]I actually had an issue with my Abnb. The wrong address was provided because the owner did not want to give out the correct address to Abnb due to concerns. Now, the owner usually messages the correct address directly to the renter but in this case, she forgot. So I am at the wrong address and I don't have load on my cellphone and there is no one there. Eventually I found a place with WiFi and was able to contact the owner to get the right address. She apologized and said she forgot. A little bit of stress there on my first day![/QUOTE]This is why I use a cell phone carrier (T-Mobile) that always has data in every country. I can get a 2nd eSIM or physical SIM for higher data speeds, but my phone works just fine wherever I go.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.
[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.
Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".
[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]...... brought no condoms .......[/QUOTE]I did not watch the video, they send you back for condoms? I usually travel with a stack. Have not been able to find Trojan Bareskins in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3036814]I did not watch the video, they send you back for condoms? I usually travel with a stack. Have not been able to find Trojan Bareskins in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I have nekkid pictures of tutes on my phone. I also like to bring my own stash of condoms and massage oils in my checked bag. Guess I won't be going to Colombia hahaha!
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.
Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".[/QUOTE]I also suspect they don't reveal all the facts. Eg they leave out that they also had handcuffs in their luggage.
I see references in the local press about something called "Angel Watch." I'm not so sure how real that is because there is a surprisingly high amount of BS published by official sources here.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036669]Looks like they got another passport bama at the airport. I wonder if they put these dudes on some type of list. Well, at least he still has Sosua.
[URL]https://youtu.be/0zJL39qKcC8?si=zg9cICKIuqRbKzyR[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's stupid to bring Viagra To Colombia. Viagra by itself is not a sign of a sex tourist. There are many guys who have local girlfriends. Even condoms is not really a big factor for the same reason. It is usually something more in addition to Viagra and condoms.
At the same time, first you need to be searched by officials. Yes, you have heard a few stories here and there but how many of us in terms of percentage actually get stopped and searched? I know that I have never been searched or interrogated in my past visits to Colombia for the past 4 years or so. I don't know anyone personally who has been searched in that manner. But yes it does happen to some, the unfortunate few.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3035694]I
Tell the office staff or security guard to not let her out unless you are with her. Make sure she hears this.
.[/QUOTE]What are the odds that a Colombian security guard will risk his job / life to physically restrain a girl, in order to protect a gringo's possessions.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3036884]I see references in the local press about something called "Angel Watch." I'm not so sure how real that is because there is a surprisingly high amount of BS published by official sources here.[/QUOTE]Colombia is pretty slow as far as enforcement. I'm surprised even this much has been done.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story in a clear, linear, logical manner and without using slang that will not translate ('homeboy' is going to translate as 'boy at home', I bet that really confuses them, why would you bring condoms for a boy back home? First his phone has nothing, then some girls from DR may have sent something, etc. I wonder if the agents just get frustrated because the person can't keep their story straight, they find impossible to understand them, and they just send them back for that.
Also, every time someone recounts being denied entry, they always say "it wasn't just me" and say 3-4 other guys were rejected too. One guy tried suggesting half the plane was sent back. Yet in real life, when we all go through immigration, we don't see anyone turned around. I think there is a human psychological thing about seeking comfort in numbers. "It can't be just me".[/QUOTE]You don't see anyone turned around because this is happening in the back room where you get questioned and searched. There is a process in place and one can be detained for a day or two before being sent back home. Besides that, immigration lines are oftentimes 300-400 people long, if they pull out, say 10 people, you won't even notice. And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036968]And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.[/QUOTE]I would say half is being generous, especially if a flight just pulled in from the USA. It's basically like fishing in a bucket for immigration. Also, I wonder if a red flag occurs when they pull up your passport information at the desk and see the number of times you've entered the country and/or if you are on the pedi list which might trigger inspections? They could potentially screen everyone entering using a certain criteria when they see your passport information and not just some random people in line or a combination of both.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036973]I would say half is being generous, especially if a flight just pulled in from the USA. It's basically like fishing in a bucket for immigration. Also, I wonder if a red flag occurs when they pull up your passport information at the desk and see the number of times you've entered the country and/or if you are on the pedi list which might trigger inspections? They could potentially screen everyone entering using a certain criteria when they see your passport information and not just some random people in line or a combination of both.[/QUOTE]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.
I know this is off-topic but I don't know where to post it. I'm doing it here because it is one of the busiest forums on the site.
When you look in the Argentina sub-forum it links to a separate website, [URL]ArgentinaPrivate.com[/URL]. However, that website is dead. Anyone have any suggestions on where to get good info on Argentina mongering?
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3036810]I always find it interesting that the guys sent back and recounting their story seem to have the same issue that they can't explain a story[/QUOTE]Very few people living in or touring this country can explain anything clearly at all.
In regards to all of the robbery stories, they are all missing very important details.
I often see many guys sloppy drunk out on the street. I wonder if they didn't just pass out in their apto versus actually being drugged.
It is the same with the USA port of entry phone search stories. No clear details as to what was said or why, nothing.
I understand that it must be very embarrassing to lose funds electronics and jewelry to some hood rat on a dating app.
Do these people not realize that a new iPhone is worth killing for here?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036968]And yes, half the fucking plane are sex tourists that can be easily sent home, they just don't have enough resources to check every single guy in the line.[/QUOTE]Flights I've been on, maybe 10% are non-Hispanic males without a female partner. I'm always in the first six rows of seating, and I have Priority boarding, so I see almost all the people getting on the plane.
[QUOTE=ILikeButts;3036988]I know this is off-topic but I don't know where to post it. I'm doing it here because it is one of the busiest forums on the site.
When you look in the Argentina sub-forum it links to a separate website, [URL]ArgentinaPrivate.com[/URL]. However, that website is dead. Anyone have any suggestions on where to get good info on Argentina mongering?[/QUOTE]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.
Ventured down to El Centro today since the weather was pretty nice. Saw a handful of older white gringos while I was walking around. Decided to check out whatever casas I could find. I used to hit one on about every other block back in the day. Today I came across a few. Settled on a nice Veny and had a good session. Prices have gone up and I got the sense that things are a bit more business like now which is probably the result of a lot more foreigners. But anyway, had an excellent session. Great BBBJ and good sex, very affectionate and pleasant. El Centro was very crowded with Christmas approaching. A lot of vendors on the sidewalks. Walked around the church and down around the hot spots. Those that know, know. Decent talent.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037006]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.[/QUOTE]It's working right now from the USA.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3036893]I don't think it's stupid to bring Viagra To Colombia. Viagra by itself is not a sign of a sex tourist. There are many guys who have local girlfriends. Even condoms is not really a big factor for the same reason. It is usually something more in addition to Viagra and condoms.
At the same time, first you need to be searched by officials. Yes, you have heard a few stories here and there but how many of us in terms of percentage actually get stopped and searched? I know that I have never been searched or interrogated in my past visits to Colombia for the past 4 years or so. I don't know anyone personally who has been searched in that manner. But yes it does happen to some, the unfortunate few.[/QUOTE]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3037024]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.[/QUOTE]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it!
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036971]Mfs like you should be sent back home. Colombia no longer welcomes sex tourists, they don't want you there. And instead of keeping low profile you mfs keep packing your suitcases with oils, condoms, dildos, and handcuffs thinking you will never get searched. I will be laughing my ass off when you finally get kicked out.[/QUOTE]Hey I think you clicked on the wrong forum, this is not Faith and theology, it is the International Sex Guide. I know, its rather embarrassing.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037006]After doing some research, I found the Argentina site moved to the new address on 05-03-2005, more than 20 years ago. I suppose the outage is a temporary condition. I noticed I get a different error message when I try to access it from Colombia and from a VPN in the US. That could be a result of how the ISP treats the error message it receives.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the effort at funluvr. I am in Chile in the moment and tried it without a VPN and then with a VPN from both US and Argentina. I got the same error message for all:
This page isn't working.
[URL]argentinaprivate.com[/URL] is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 502.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3037001]Flights I've been on, maybe 10% are non-Hispanic males without a female partner. I'm always in the first six rows of seating, and I have Priority boarding, so I see almost all the people getting on the plane.[/QUOTE]10%? Haha. Put your glasses on and look at the immigration line. Maybe 10% are those visiting family or traveling for business. And that's on a good day.
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Adding my experience: I flew in over the weekend around midnight. Immigration took me about 15 minutes. My friend that arrived the following day in the afternoon did have to wait about 3 hours. Entry went like this: Why are you here? Tourism. Go ahead, have a nice day.
Honestly some of you guys remind me of my boomer parents that buy into every conspiracy theory they hear without anything to support it and double down on it when there is evidence to the contrary. I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. Common sense. Do you see a lot of people out? Stores open? Women and kids and police still around?
[QUOTE=Huacho;3036714]Flat out stupid to bring Viagra TO Colombia. Regarding the guy whose passport was "out of date," guessing it was not expired but did not have the three or is it six months left that Colombia requires. No sympathy there either. I was just in Medelland a couple of weeks ago. Erased all my Whatsapp, erased my browsing history, brought no condoms and no Viagra. Was asked no questions whatsoever, nor for proof of onward travel (which I did have). But I am old, and white.[/QUOTE]Stupid to bring Viagra why? I've travelled around the world bringing an assortment of meds like Viagra and antibiotics and it has never been an issue. I'll note I bring it in a checked bag, not carry on.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it. There are legit drugstores around the world. This is where common sense comes in. Drugstore chain selling a drug that's legal to sell OTC? Probably legit. Guy that looks like a junkie trying to sell you something on the street? Probably don't buy it. Consider you can often order medications online that are Indian or Turkish branded. Those are from legit pharmacies. I'm amazed that you can have travelled, seen how countries in the world have basically everything the USA does just as nice and at times nicer, but still think only the US has real Viagra?
Lastly it's not even just pinching pennies. Depending on the medicine you need to go a doctor. There's a copay. That could mean missing a bit of work for the visit, gas driving there, then they refer you to a specialist. There's another copay, more time, etc. Finally even with a prescription and insurance the medicine itself might cost more.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036979]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.[/QUOTE]This literally the confirmation that search is random and mostly based on your profile. If they think you look suspicious then they pulled you out. Different arrival time when it's less busy is the safe thing to do for now, because the afternoon arrivals are the sex tourists lol
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3036979]They pulled me out before they even checked my passport. I wrote about it recently, I was searched and questioned in the back room but was granted entry. The black dude that I met in the back room got denied.[/QUOTE]Has anyone witnessed a non black male get denied?
I'm planning a trip there and although I don't look like pookie and have traveled all over the world, there seems to be a pattern from what I've witnessed.
[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]Adding my experience: I flew in over the weekend around midnight. Immigration took me about 15 minutes. My friend that arrived the following day in the afternoon did have to wait about 3 hours. Entry went like this: Why are you here? Tourism. Go ahead, have a nice day.
Honestly some of you guys remind me of my boomer parents that buy into every conspiracy theory they hear without anything to support it and double down on it when there is evidence to the contrary. I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. Common sense. Do you see a lot of people out? Stores open? Women and kids and police still around?
Stupid to bring Viagra why? I've travelled around the world bringing an assortment of meds like Viagra and antibiotics and it has never been an issue. I'll note I bring it in a checked bag, not carry on.
You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it. There are legit drugstores around the world. This is where common sense comes in. Drugstore chain selling a drug that's legal to sell OTC? Probably legit. Guy that looks like a junkie trying to sell you something on the street? Probably don't buy it. Consider you can often order medications online that are Indian or Turkish branded. Those are from legit pharmacies. I'm amazed that you can have travelled, seen how countries in the world have basically everything the USA does just as nice and at times nicer, but still think only the US has real Viagra?.[/QUOTE]Why you ask? What kind of safety protocols do they have for prescription drugs? You don't know and don't either. You can get ED drugs from several approved and reputable providers without any co- pays or visits. It can be done online and these companies have oversight. Doesn't cost more than $20 so if that's a problem than Penny pinching is an issue. I don't travel internationally with prescription drugs without a prescription. To each his own.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3037161]10%? Haha. Put your glasses on and look at the immigration line. Maybe 10% are those visiting family or traveling for business. And that's on a good day.[/QUOTE]Certainly won't be hard to send sex tourists home if they make the effort.
[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]I went to El Centro last night. Got dark at 6 pm, I stayed until 9 pm when I was ready to go, it was totally fine. But one of you will blindly repeat don't be there after dark. [/QUOTE]It is always fine. I have been out downtown as late as 4 am, but some people are afraid of how it looks and afraid to see drug addicts.
[QUOTE=CohenD607;3037225]You don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America why? This is too easy to disprove. Viagra costs pennies to manufacture. There's no reason to fake it.[/QUOTE]I thought the same thing when I bought a phone charger off the street in Honduras. Brand new in the box. Phone chargers are cheap to make. It is only a couple of wires. Who would go through the trouble of faking one along with making a box for it. But sure enough, the charger was just an empty shell. Can't remember if the wire part worked. Also thought the same thing when I was in Peru and handed the taxi driver a 5 soles coin. He told me it was fake and showed me how ro tell. I thought who the hell is going through all that trouble minting fake cheap ass coins. But stranger things do happen.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037268]I don't travel internationally with prescription drugs without a prescription. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Whether a drug is a prescription drug or not is relative to what country you got it from. One country's prescription is many other countries' over the counter. For instance, I do not know many countries where you need a prescription for amoxicilin. But countries like USA you have to go through a doctor to get it. For a narcotic, then yes have a prescription. But ain't nobody checking for a prescription for dick pills that can easily be bought in a USA gas station or on Amazon.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3037349]It is always fine. I have been out downtown as late as 4 am, but some people are afraid of how it looks and afraid to see drug addicts.[/QUOTE]You should not depict it that easy. I believe the majority of who reads here and then ventures to Medellin is the type of tourists for which a stay at the old Mansion is top brave adventure in an alien range. You should not put those people in danger by downscaling the danger.
I have been walking around Centro at 2am since old times 10-20 years ago, and I can tell IT IS DANGEROUS. It is not the junkies. It is the groups of desperate who can attack at any time if they see an easy prey. "No dar papaya!"
[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3037226]This literally the confirmation that search is random and mostly based on your profile. If they think you look suspicious then they pulled you out. Different arrival time when it's less busy is the safe thing to do for now, because the afternoon arrivals are the sex tourists lol[/QUOTE]I entered MDE immigration last week. One question politely asked, I responded "tourism", and admitted with smile.
During the 1 h long waiting time, I spent my time looking at people queueing before me. Only one was pulled apart for additional questions and checks, and it was exactly the type I would have questioned if I were the screener: gringo and (to my eyes) suspicious character LOL. Maybe one who reads here.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.
Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.
Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.
You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3037079]Sometimes cheaper isn't always better. I don't trust meds from anywhere outside of America. You can get ED meds here for $20. You get a legal prescription that you can take with you. Too many people trying to be very cheap (pinching pennies) for questionable medications. Why would you ingest something like that. Not worth it![/QUOTE]Ethnocentric nonsense.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.
Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.
Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.
You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.
And BTW my pharmacy is about 50 meters from my office.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3037024]Name a country where Viagra is cheaper than Colombia. Not the country these bros came from.[/QUOTE]Brasil is cheaper.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.
Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.
Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.
You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Generally, if you have health insurance in the USA, it would be able $1 per pill so about the same price. The patent for Viagra has expired so generic Viagra is available and that is what health insurance companies pay for so Pfizer usually does not benefit from these prescriptions anymore.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3037472]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.[/QUOTE]Ethnocentric as noted before for another person. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Your work field must be not related to any in the area of chemicals, farmaceutical, etc.
Regardless what claimed by "experts" on Facebook, "generic" is EXACTLY the same substance as patented "original". The problem is with generic produced by low-quality uncertain industries.
The production quality of top-tier Colombian farma industry is better than cheap mass brands in USA. Me, for one, I would go back to my country on foot rather than accepting to be hospitalized in a 2-nd tier hospital in USA, the worst place to get seriously sick in the world unless with millions to spend.
Wanting to pay more for a logo on the box is wishing to give a gift to a company that does not need to be subsidized, but there is freedom to put money where one wants. So, be happy and buy only Pfizer made in USA.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3037518]Generally, if you have health insurance in the USA[/QUOTE]But you pay to the insurance much more than what you save on the pill.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037549]So, be happy and buy only Pfizer made in USA.[/QUOTE]AI says, "The majority of Pfizer's brand-name Viagra (sildenafil) is manufactured in Ringaskiddy, County Cork, Ireland. While the company is headquartered in the United States, its primary manufacturing facility for this specific drug is located in Ireland. "
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[QUOTE=Huacho;3037553]AI says, "The majority of Pfizer's brand-name Viagra (sildenafil) is manufactured in Ringaskiddy, County Cork, Ireland. While the company is headquartered in the United States, its primary manufacturing facility for this specific drug is located in Ireland. "[/QUOTE]The EU safety protocols for quality control are the strictest in the world.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;3037441]As noted by Mr. E already, you don't know what you are talking about.
Colombia farma industry has excellent reputation. I add that there's no need to show a prescription to buy ED drugs at farmacies, then that's why I buy my supply in Colombia whenever I can travel there.
Last week, I bought 50 boxes x4 pills generic Sildenafil 50mg produced by Genfar for less than 12.500 COP / box from La Rebaja (). I choose Genfar because it is the only that places 4 pills in one blister (I keep only blisters and throw away boxes to save space). It could be cheaper, but I did not have the time to make a market search.
You prefer to pay $20 instead of $80c? For the same?? Well, subsidizing Pfizer budget is not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the protocols for how they handle drugs in Colombia and Tijuana. I also only carry prescriptions so it doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3037465]Ethnocentric nonsense.[/QUOTE]No, it's common sense. I only travel with prescriptions.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3037472]I never take generics in the USA I most certainly wouldn't take them in a 3rd world country, not even if you put a gun to my head.
And BTW my pharmacy is about 50 meters from my office.[/QUOTE]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3037623]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.[/QUOTE]Are you now going to argue with a retired pharmacist? I buy 100 MG Maxifort in Tijuana for less than a dollar a pill. It is made in Mexico. Lots of Tijuana guys use it. It works great for me and I also bring it with me to Medellin.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3037625] I buy 100 MG Maxifort in Tijuana for less than a dollar a pill. [/QUOTE]A good pharmacy to get Maxifort and Figral in Tijuana is at Piri across from the Wax Museum.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;3037645]A good pharmacy to get Maxifort and Figral in Tijuana is at Piri across from the Wax Museum.[/QUOTE]That is where I buy it. They have the best price. All those pharmacies on Revo try to rip a gringo off. Which do you like better the Maxifort or the Figral or do you think they the same?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3037673] Which do you like better the Maxifort or the Figral or do you think they the same?.[/QUOTE]I've had good results from both with Maxifort having a slight edge in quality over Figral. Both are at a great price at Piri.
[QUOTE=Hossi36;3037513]Brasil is cheaper.[/QUOTE]There's more fake ED drugs in Brazil. Never had an issue anywhere else but in Brazil it's fake and ineffective a lot of times.
Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.
Seeking has been giving lots of trouble lately. I was forced to create a new account and now they are asking for ID verification / selfie etc; talk about invasion of privacy. And it seems that they will ban / suspend your account without any reason. They are impossible to work with. What's a safe sugar dating site that's being used in Colombia? Especially in Medellin?
Anyone else experiencing major problems with seeking lately!
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]I've been to a lot of MP's & every 1 I have been to offers extras. Plenty of them in the Rio shopping center in Poblado. Anything from a hand job to anal action. The casas, mostly in centro & Laureles, are basically brothels so anything goes depending on the chica. The stripclubs, besides la isla, Face Dos, Conejitas in centro & other lower enders in centro all have rooms in the back for your dirty desires. I have been going to mde in my 40's, 50's & 60's & have never been asked for an ID. I do carry a copy of my passport just in case I have a policia encounter, but in 20+ trips over 20 years, that has never happened.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately few, it any, provide extras. Of course you'd know the answer if you RTFF jajaja
The ID question is a good one and a little less clear... I have used a photocopy of my passport and an expired drivers license with success. I currently just use a (valid) passport card or expired military ID.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3037623]I'm a retired pharmacist & I always use generics either prescription or non prescription. Most of the powders for drugs are made outside the US. The various companies just stamp out the pill or capsule. It's all the same, especially Colombian drugs.[/QUOTE]I was a process engineer in pharma production. We sent bulk batches to the US for packing at the US site. I guess they stamped it made in the USA.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;3038314]Seeking has been giving lots of trouble lately. I was forced to create a new account and now they are asking for ID verification / selfie etc; talk about invasion of privacy. And it seems that they will ban / suspend your account without any reason. They are impossible to work with. What's a safe sugar dating site that's being used in Colombia? Especially in Medellin?
Anyone else experiencing major problems with seeking lately![/QUOTE]The site has changed a lot I have been on there over 10 years. I took a break for a few months (only once) and when I came back they made me change the name of my profile. I had mentioned on my profile that I am not interested in buying pics and their BOT flagged me for that. It was a good site for years but has gotten more expensive not just that membership but the amount of money the girls are asking for.
You have to be careful how you talk on there. They suspended my profile and I asked what I did wrong and was reinstated. That site is only good if you need to meet someone ASAP like when the weather is bad.
I have have found Tinder / Instagram more useful and it's less money.
[QUOTE=Shemp;3038334]..... I have been going to mde in my 40's, 50's & 60's & have never been asked for an ID. I do carry a copy of my passport just in case I have a policia encounter, but in 20+ trips over 20 years, that has never happened.[/QUOTE]I've never been asked for ID to enter an establishment but I have been by police on the streets, it has happened to me as far back as 17 years ago.
[QUOTE=KillArmy;3036429]Hey guys,
Very long story short: my ex was a crazy sex-addict, we had an open relationship. We were living in Philippines, and had our 'lifestyle' for 2 years while living in Thailand.
She could see guys like once a month or so, sometime with me (had a few threesomes and even foursomes) sometime without me, especially since I was abroad for a few months sometime. Always filming it for me, so she was kind of my girl and my pornstar. Always secure, always 100 % honest. Very addictive shit. Broke up for other reasons and. I guess in 'cheating-Paisa-land', some woman could be receptive to this kind of idea, no? But I have an hard time realizing if I just was so crazy lucky, and if apart from prepagos, no women would ever do that. What would be my best bets to meet such women here (please don't say Parque Lleras) that are NOT prepagos. I mean, I would maybe not mind a prepago / webcam girl / actual pornstar (I think that industry is getting huge here lately) but would have no idea how to meet them, and scared of too much drama.
Cheers, thanks for your advices.[/QUOTE]They do exist. Certain women make rules for some men and break these same rules for others. Your best bet is by living there and getting to know people as a local in my opinion. If. You leading with your wallet, of course you can ask those working girls in the casas or online if they are interested. Good luck.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;3038029]There's more fake ED drugs in Brazil. Never had an issue anywhere else but in Brazil it's fake and ineffective a lot of times.[/QUOTE]In that case, we have had very different experiences.
There has been a lot of talk about ED meds. All I would say that is that they are easily available at the drugstores for a reasonable price and the generic version seems to work fine.
The weather is generally nice. Sunny with rain here and there. The rain seems to finish in a short period of time and is not all day.
The immigration line can be long if you arrive at popular times usually the afternoon or the weekend or Friday so if you don't want a long time, you need to try to arrive early morning or late night and avoid holiday weekends. Last time I arrived here on Wednesday at 2 pm and it was a 3 hour wait. This time I arrived early morning on Tuesday and it was 10 minutes. You could also do research on how many flights are arriving at a certain time and day but that is a little more effort.
I generally see online girls and it is about the same as last year in terms of quality of the girls and prices. There seems to be a pissing match whenever you mention prices with guys saying that you are overpaying so I am going to avoid that topic. I am content with the prices that I am paying for the quality of the girls online. For those trying to save money, you should go to El Centro and see girls on the streets or in the casas for 50-70 mil. And you can believe that these girls are the same as the girls walking around Parque Lleras and you are so much smarter than the simps in Poblado who are overpaying. It may be true in some cases, but it is not true in all cases.
It is your money so you can spend it the way you want, and I would not worry about what anonymous guys say.
Guys generally seem happy to be here and so far no one I have met has been whining or complaining about Medellin. It seems to be an online thing.
Hi,
I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help.
PP2.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3038710]I generally see online girls and it is about the same as last year in terms of quality of the girls and prices. There seems to be a pissing match whenever you mention prices with guys saying that you are overpaying so I am going to avoid that topic. I am content with the prices that I am paying for the quality of the girls online. For those trying to save money, you should go to El Centro and see girls on the streets or in the casas for 50-70 mil. And you can believe that these girls are the same as the girls walking around Parque Lleras and you are so much smarter than the simps in Poblado who are overpaying. It may be true in some cases, but it is not true in all cases.
It is your money so you can spend it the way you want, and I would not worry about what anonymous guys say.
Guys generally seem happy to be here and so far no one I have met has been whining or complaining about Medellin. It seems to be an online thing.[/QUOTE]The Lleras girls are basically the old-school "Facebook types" or what you swipe on the apps now — flashy, know they're hot, and usually start at 400 k+. I've paid it recently for a chica who was legit stunning, but most of the time I just pass. Not worth the fight or the precedent it sets. Pay 400 once and good luck ever getting her for less, ask for 300 and she shows up pissed off or flakes.
Centro girls are definitely more "hood" vibe, lots of Venezuelans, cute in their own way, and now it's pretty much 80 k minimum instead of the old 50-70. Still way cheaper though.
I usually just look for whoever's cute, reliable, good in bed, and doesn't hit me up every five minutes for Rappi, Uber, snacks, etc. I'll try the "frequent flyer" discount pitch with the ones I like, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Their brain has trouble processing the "hey can I buy in bulk" rationale.
At the end of the day it's the same story in Bogotá now too, so can't even fully blame the Lleras bachelor-party crowd anymore LOL.
[QUOTE=PeterPan2;3038852]Hi,
I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help..[/QUOTE]Can you clear your unbox?
You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3035255]It's been a solid few months in Antioquia this year. I've covered the whole oriente small towns, backroads, the works. A lot's shifted since pre-pandemic, but the core game's still recognizable.
When I first rolled in, Fase II was 190 mil, independents 150 mil standard. GFE was the default; half the time money never came up until the end, and 150 was fine. Travel companions were a text awaydomestic trip for the price of two quick sessions.
I stay out of Lleras now. Word is the girls there shark harder than ever.
Veracruz and the Laureles / Beland casas still deliver. Plenty of cute floaters passing through, easy to swap contacts. The best-looking Colombianas I've met this year all came from those spots. Catch is, they vanish fast.
The top 5 cutest of this trip were not expensive dates. I just got lucky.
Curiosity pushed me onto a romance app. Breaks my rule: stick to the agenda, stay safe.
Some sharp 30-somethings will play for a glamping weekend, no cash exchanged..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3039075]You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]When did he ever mention a casa in his post?
Are you seeing things or hearing things?
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3039075]You mentioned casas at Veracruz Laureles and beland. How do I find them on google maps. Would a taxi driver know? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]My bad, he did mention casas. My experience with an el Centro casa is at New Life located at: CL. 56 #43-39. I never went wrong there. Keep in mind that they will charge you a "looking" fee if you don't choose a girl but I've always found one to my liking.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3038912]Can you clear your unbox?[/QUOTE]Hi, I cleared my box. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3038279]Will be in MDE for a week next week just wanted to know about any massage places that provide extras? Also I know most of the sc are damn near brothels so what are some good ones: la isla is the only one? Really excited for my trip. Also do you need a physical ID to get into the clubs or can I bring a copy instead I really just want to carry bills and my phone to be honest.[/QUOTE]Fase Dos is the other strip club that is high end like La Isla. Any casas like New Life & Energy, couples of others provide service. There are several massage places in Poblado in Rio Sur Mall that provide extras, but it is expensive. I've never been checked for ID, always carry paper copy of passport & DL.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3039179]Fase Dos is the other strip club that is high end like La Isla. Any casas like New Life & Energy, couples of others provide service. There are several massage places in Poblado in Rio Sur Mall that provide extras, but it is expensive. I've never been checked for ID, always carry paper copy of passport & DL.[/QUOTE]Fase dos is less expensive. Tourists usually go to la isla. La sial is closer to what you can see in american stip club but you can fuck the girls in the room and vip. If you want to throw 500 $ to 1000 $ in a night you will probably have a far more better experience at la isla.
I too will be going to Medellin December 14. Let me know if anyone wants to meet up. Don't mind checking few places with a wingman. I can do casas alone but strip clubs intimidate me a little. DM if you are free those dates.
[QUOTE=PeterPan2;3038852]Hi,
I am coming to Medellin from Europe and have been reading the forum. Seems to me that current local knowledge about the scene, the clubs, the girls and possibilities is what I need. So I put its to you all: does anybody know of a reliable local guide to show me around, help me find the best places and girls and keep me safe? I am more than willing to spend some of my budget on this kind of help.
PP2.[/QUOTE]
Really short and sweet for people that are looking for actionable advice not runaround answers for MDE. First I will say I didn't venture down to centro quite yet but so I can speak on that just yet. As far as Parque Lleras goes most girls are going for under 300 mil pesos MAX, if you are paying anything more for an hour I don't think that's a smart business decision most girls will try to quote 100 usd but I always talk them down to south if 300 mil like I said. As far as my non Spanish speakers life will be more enjoyed if you speak it, I don't so take my advice and at least know how to stumble through sentences. It makes the whole interaction better when you can communicate with the chica. As far as girls goes literally stand out in the park and wave girls down simple conversations and exchange contacts and invite or whatever you want to do. Uber is fine out here for haven't had a problem and it's relatively cheap like south of 10 mill pesos. Whoever said the food is trash has zero taste buds. (this is a joke) but no seriously the food is not bad I've had a great meal every day and hope it continues. If you get a chance go to mall and interact with locals it's really a pretty country and you should see more than culo when your here.
Benji.
Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.
Benji.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039558]Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.
Benji.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the massage place you went to? Is it close to parque lleras?
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039394]Really short and sweet for people that are looking for actionable advice not runaround answers for MDE. First I will say I didn't venture down to centro quite yet but so I can speak on that just yet. As far as Parque Lleras goes most girls are going for under 300 mil pesos MAX, if you are paying anything more for an hour I don't think that's a smart business decision most girls will try to quote 100 usd but I always talk them down to south if 300 mil like I said. As far as my non Spanish speakers life will be more enjoyed if you speak it, I don't so take my advice and at least know how to stumble through sentences. It makes the whole interaction better when you can communicate with the chica. As far as girls goes literally stand out in the park and wave girls down simple conversations and exchange contacts and invite or whatever you want to do. Uber is fine out here for haven't had a problem and it's relatively cheap like south of 10 mill pesos. Whoever said the food is trash has zero taste buds. (this is a joke) but no seriously the food is not bad I've had a great meal every day and hope it continues. If you get a chance go to mall and interact with locals it's really a pretty country and you should see more than culo when your here.i.[/QUOTE]What are your accommodations? K.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3039614]What's the name of the massage place you went to? Is it close to parque lleras?[/QUOTE]It's called jade place I would text the number and wait on the corner where it is so they can let you in. It's 500 ft from the park.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3039668]What are your accommodations? K.[/QUOTE]What does that mean?
Hello,
I would really like to visit Colombia this summer.
I'm a huge fan of Thailand and I go there every year.
However, two things make me hesitate for Colombia: safety and the language barrier.
When I travel alone in Thailand, I don't go to the specialised bars for ST. I prefer going to nightclubs, enjoying the nightlife, meeting girls on the dance floor, and continuing the night with someone if we have a good connection. At the hotel, many times she go back after long sleeping and at this moment I give money.
Is a similar nightlife experience possible in Medellíand? And for money too?
Which nightclubs would you recommend?
Is it better to book an Airbnb in Parque Lleras or stay in a hotel?
Do you have any other advice? And what do you think about going there without speaking Spanish?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=MxTH9;3039794]Hello,
However, two things make me hesitate for Colombia: safety and the language barrier.[/QUOTE]It depends on your native language, which does not seem to be English. English is not widely spoken in Colombia, but almost no other languages are spoken at all.
Medellin can be safe and it can be dangerous. It depends on how you behave. Walking around Poblado and Laureles, I have always felt safe. Yet at the same time, I am on my guard and making sure that I know where my wallet and cellphone are. It is always late night and walking down isolated streets that can be dangerous in any city.
Being drugged and robbed is always something you need to be on guard for. The biggest issue is drinking with the girl. You might want to avoid this to decrease the odds. Security at your place is also another factor. Especially if you are new to Medellin, it would be best to have security at the front desk.
The standard advice of chica proofing your room applies here. Don't leave anything of value in a place where a girl can take it. If you don't give a girl the opportunity to steal from you, you don't have to worry.
There is also this issue of having an agreement with the girl prior to coming to your room. I often have girls chat with me online and want to meet without any discussion of price. I am usually the one to bring it up because I don't want any misunderstandings. Negotiations after services have been rendered is always much more difficult. I like to know how much it will be and her expectations prior to meeting. I think that having no agreement may be a strategy to getting more money out of you after the act assuming that it is not a normal date. At the same time, if a young attractive girl wants to go out with you and you are old enough to be her father or grandfather and you are just average looking, you have to remember that if it is too good to be true, it probably isn't' true.
It isn't that I am so smart. It is that I have made a lot of mistakes in the past and have learned from them.
Good luck to all and stay safe!
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039558]Day 2 and 3 were just as good as 1. My friends and I hit the massage place 1 I think I forgot to mention and it's cheaper than the park girls in el Poblado about 200 mil for completa servicio. During day two we went to comuna 13 (if you don't like walking don't go) and day three we hit Laureles which has a more local and had a big Colombia feel too it it's a beautiful city and for all the people saying it's dangerous it totally is stay away (kidding) just be on your P.S. And qs like any other big city and you'll be fine they are lookin for a sucker don't be one of those. Every chica I offered 300 mil pesos to has said yes I'm pretty sure you could get less but that's what I'm willing to pay. By the way I get why men come here and fall in love with the chicas. They are beautiful and honestly really cool since being here for 3 days I've picked up on some key phrases so I'm not completely loss but again speaking Spanish fluently could lead to really good benefits if she like you / tolerates you. And trust me I'm no sucker I don't struggle to get female attention anywhere on the globe and I know the dinero is what they admire. Still feels good. Key points: Travel in duos if you can, don't over pay even for the finest chicas just talk them down, and know she's not yours, it's just your turn. Unless you want to turn a hoe into a housewife then be my guest LOL I don't blame ya these chicas are fuego.
Benji.[/QUOTE]Nice weekend. Glad you had fun and it worked out for you. I have not been to Medellin yet. But I have been to Bogota twice. Your advice is good. The first time I went to Bogota alone it was real fun but I felt out of place sometimes. The second time I went with a friend I trusted. We had a blast. My Spanish is sub par his is fluent so that helped. It was good because we found non working girls to hang out with also. And I also use sites like seeking arrangements, to find some good quality woman that I can vibe with for one night. Other than that cheers to you. Also guys just saying, reports like these get me ready for my next trip and put on my explorers hat. Medellin in coming on the list next year.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3039935]Medellin can be safe and it can be dangerous. It depends on how you behave. Walking around Poblado and Laureles, I have always felt safe. Yet at the same time, I am on my guard and making sure that I know where my wallet and cellphone are. It is always late night and walking down isolated streets that can be dangerous in any city.
Being drugged and robbed is always something you need to be on guard for. The biggest issue is drinking with the girl. You might want to avoid this to decrease the odds. Security at your place is also another factor. Especially if you are new to Medellin, it would be best to have security at the front desk.
The standard advice of chica proofing your room applies here. Don't leave anything of value in a place where a girl can take it. If you don't give a girl the opportunity to steal from you, you don't have to worry.
[/QUOTE]Best to get your agreement in writing, notarized and witnessed and have a liquidated damage clause, all drafted by an attorney. And specify all the services she will perform. Never trust a hoor. Then they want the $$ up front and upsell after your pants are down and tell you extra for more than a simple hand job. Better to do only short time, the girl can pretend she has to leave early instead of staying all night, and be a real whiner if you don't let her run.
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[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3038898]know they're hot, and usually start at 400 k+. I've paid it recently for a chica who was legit stunning, but most of the time I just pass. Not worth the fight or the precedent it sets. Pay 400 once and good luck ever getting her for less, ask for 300 and she shows up pissed off or flakes.[/QUOTE]The hot ones won't come down, and they are all covered usually because others are paying for them. If you don't go for the hottest looking ones, their price are inline with facebook. I saw the so-called stunners maybe 2 out of 5 trips. I met this one elsewhere but she works at Lleras. They can be flexible with price in my case. I consider these the A team because they do well financially. We go out and they will ask to pay for Uber and things. The price of the be team will be lower. She would come to my apartment before going to Lleras. They came, took my phone to the bathroom to take pictures. I know this girl usually go covered because I heard they were discussing condom. I don't negotiate anything with the second girl and the main girl negotiate everything for me.
Just to clarify something, I pay less for happy hour price. I am pretty sure these more popular girls won't stay later than 10 or 11 PM on weekdays, and earlier on weekend for what I paid. Some girls have better business sense and these are more flexible. They usually stay 2 hours or more.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3040007]Best to get your agreement in writing, notarized and witnessed and have a liquidated damage clause, all drafted by an attorney. And specify all the services she will perform. Never trust a hoor. Then they want the $$ up front and upsell after your pants are down and tell you extra for more than a simple hand job. Better to do only short time, the girl can pretend she has to leave early instead of staying all night, and be a real whiner if you don't let her run.[/QUOTE]No agreement necessary. Meet the girl, have sex and then you can just pay her what you want. She will do everything you want as if she has read your mind and agrees to everything. She will leave with a smile on her face or might turn it down saying she should be paying you for the pleasure that you are giving her. She will stay all night and then you will have to kick her out.
Midnight is Alborada.
You can go to Parque del Rio to see the Christmas lights If you are in Medellin this month.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3040050]No agreement necessary. Meet the girl, have sex and then you can just pay her what you want. She will do everything you want as if she has read your mind and agrees to everything. She will leave with a smile on her face or might turn it down saying she should be paying you for the pleasure that you are giving her. She will stay all night and then you will have to kick her out.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that's funny shit well done.
I think there's a couple reasons some guys prefer to not make a deal beforehand. First is to feel like it's a regular date and they just choose to give a gift afterwards. Feels better than agreeing upfront to pay a girl for sex. These guys will still pay market rate but feel good about helping out the girls.
Second some guys are hoping to get away for cheap or free if it's possible. Maybe she's new to the game and will be afraid to ask afterwards. Maybe the guy has some sales skills and convinces her she will come out further ahead playing the long game. Or he can say he thought she liked him and it was free. Lots of ways to play it for the guy but also for the chica too. If she turns out to be an old pro at this game it can get ugly. And the police don't speak English.
Yeah in Thailand you might need to kick her out the next day. Not so much in Medellin jaja.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3040183]Hahaha that's funny shit well done.
I think there's a couple reasons some guys prefer to not make a deal beforehand. First is to feel like it's a regular date and they just choose to give a gift afterwards. Feels better than agreeing upfront to pay a girl for sex. These guys will still pay market rate but feel good about helping out the girls.
Second some guys are hoping to get away for cheap or free if it's possible. Maybe she's new to the game and will be afraid to ask afterwards. Maybe the guy has some sales skills and convinces her she will come out further ahead playing the long game. Or he can say he thought she liked him and it was free. Lots of ways to play it for the guy but also for the chica too. If she turns out to be an old pro at this game it can get ugly. And the police don't speak English.
Yeah in Thailand you might need to kick her out the next day. Not so much in Medellin jaja.[/QUOTE]I fondly remember the days before the Gringo invasion where you needed to kick them out the next day.
Hey guys, lost access to my old acct (stupid yahoo email). Got this one working and can finally DM. Feel free to DM if you have any questions.
[QUOTE=Toastmonger69;3024526]I feel like if she was a working girl she would have asked me for $$$ on the spot before I left MDE. She has her own family business, a small shop and she advertises it on whatsapp. Other girls who work regularly advertise themselves (she does not), seems to me like she was just a chcia who wanted extra cash rather than a pro such as the ones in parque de lecheras. After being in this hobby for over 20 yrs, can get a read on people.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3038912]Can you clear your unbox?[/QUOTE]I could use some help, too. Willing to pay for support.
[QUOTE=Ratalert;3040410]I could use some help, too. Willing to pay for support.[/QUOTE]I can recommend someone but I think you need to buy a membership for private messaging.
I haven't been to Medellin in a while. The last time I was there, there was a place called the Mansion that had a club which had a lot of women. I guess they closed. Where are good places to monger? Has anyone ever pulled someone from the outdoor crowd at Lleras?
Has anybody found a reliable hotel near Poblado since the Mayor's decree? I've been doing some research and both the Charlee and Du Parc have implemented very guest unfriendly policies. Is Hampton Inn still good? Any recent reports on guest friendliness in hotels would be appreciated:
1. No (or low) joiner fees. And I'm going for 2-3 girls per day.
2. No problem with ID check. But I don't want to be limited to 21+. I'm into the 18-19 year old crowd.
3. Don't really want to have to do Air BNB. I want daily maid service (2-3 girls per day necessitates it.).
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3039758]What does that mean?[/QUOTE]Where are you staying? The hotel or Airbnb.
Went by Parque Lleras yesterday. Was there early about 4:30 pm. Talent was definitely subpar. Maybe because it was early but I don't remember that many ugly girls being in park, ever. The girls working in the bars and restaurants look much better than the park girls did.
In general, I'm not a fan of being in Meddy during the holiday season and even less now because everything is more crowded with tourists and the traffic is worse. The gringo invasion is in full swing with plenty of sighting of single female travelers or small groups and herds of sexpats and mongers in El Poblado and Laureles. Considering bouncing to Asia for the holidays.
On a side note, the flight into Meddy from the states wasn't bad. The tourist line for immigration was a little long. Also when you got through immigration there was a another long line after bag pickup. See attached pic.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;3040595]I haven't been to Medellin in a while. The last time I was there, there was a place called the Mansion that had a club which had a lot of women. I guess they closed. Where are good places to monger? Has anyone ever pulled
someone from the outdoor crowd at Lleras?[/QUOTE]Nope once the mansion went down. There's no where else to. Go. Its a dead town now.
Around which dates in December do things slow down? Is there still plenty of talent before Dec 22nd? Or would you just go Mid January at that point?
Poblado may be full of tourists and mongers but you don't have to stay in Poblado. If you are sick of seeing gringos everywhere, you can stay in another neighborhood where gringos are rarely seen. Just do your research before venturing to new places.
Laureles is a well known neighborhood that has some gringos but not to the same extent as Poblado. I am currently in Belen and there aren't that many gringos hanging around here. It seems to be a safe neighborhood with plenty of places to eat and shop.
You don't need to be in Park Lleras to find girls. There are the girls in El Centro who can take care of your needs for a cheap price. There are also girls online who will travel to where you live. If you can find girls that you like online, then it really doesn't matter where you stay.
For guys new to Medellin, it is best to stick with Poblado because it is the easier place to stay and more people speak English there. In other neighborhoods, most people don't speak English so you will need to get out your cellphone to use Google Translate if you don't speak Spanish.
Spanish makes life easier here but you can manage with no Spanish with your cellphone. It is a hassle but it is doable.
The Christmas holiday has not affected the number of girls available online. In fact, I think that they are more eager to meet with gringos because they want money to buy presents for Christmas. That has been my experience so far.
Take care and stay safe.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;3040595]I haven't been to Medellin in a while. The last time I was there, there was a place called the Mansion that had a club which had a lot of women. I guess they closed. Where are good places to monger? Has anyone ever pulled someone from the outdoor crowd at Lleras?[/QUOTE]Since they closed it's horrible and not many girls at all to choose from, disappointing!
[QUOTE=Ratalert;3040410]I could use some help, too. Willing to pay for support.[/QUOTE]I sent you a slew of information for you to get by bud!, enjoy.
I wish every monger on here a Merry Christmas. I hope you all find the best girls. Being a true expert at the craft. I'll be offering my experience to you normal morons. Fill free to dm me and I'll be posting my awesome wisdom soon. Stay tuned.
I speak decent Spanish and have been there before. I'm looking for a building with security, booked a good one last time- either that or Ill get a second Airbnb just for boning.
My question was about the party scene- LA 70 and other venues to meet civilians / non pros / Semipros. I'm going to post a separate question for this one.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3040917]Poblado may be full of tourists and mongers but you don't have to stay in Poblado. If you are sick of seeing gringos everywhere, you can stay in another neighborhood where gringos are rarely seen. Just do your research before venturing to new places.
Laureles is a well known neighborhood that has some gringos but not to the same extent as Poblado. I am currently in Belen and there aren't that many gringos hanging around here. It seems to be a safe neighborhood with plenty of places to eat and shop.
You don't need to be in Park Lleras to find girls. There are the girls in El Centro who can take care of your needs for a cheap price. There are also girls online who will travel to where you live. If you can find girls that you like online, then it really doesn't matter where you stay.
For guys new to Medellin, it is best to stick with Poblado because it is the easier place to stay and more people speak English there. In other neighborhoods, most people don't speak English so you will need to get out your cellphone to use Google Translate if you don't speak Spanish..[/QUOTE]
Is it still possible to meet Regular girls or maybe semi-pros In-person in Medellin? In places other than the grocery store or hooters? Any "cultural exchange" meetup events in Provenza or other places? Or do I need to go deeper in- Sabaneta, Belem, Envigado?
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3041261]Is it still possible to meet Regular girls or maybe semi-pros In-person in Medellin? In places other than the grocery store or hooters? Any "cultural exchange" meetup events in Provenza or other places? Or do I need to go deeper in- Sabaneta, Belem, Envigado?[/QUOTE]Most any night of the week one can find an Intercambio (in a bar, restaurant, hostel, language school in Poblado, Laureles or Envigado) where locals and expats go to exchange conversation in English and Spanish. The crowd usually includes some attractive, younger chicas who have come more with an eye to meeting a gringo than with any care about improving their language skills. But most all the ladies will speak at least some English.
By far the largest such event (more of a massive Happy Hour) used to take place (still does???) in the Vintrash Bar on Tuesday and Thursday nights in the Provenza pedestrian zone of Poblado. I last attended a couple of years ago and recall 100 or more participants, filling the multi-story bar and spilling over into an outdoor seating area and the street. If you google "Gringo Tuesdays, Medellin" it seems that the event may have gravitated a few doors down on Carrera 35 to the Teatro Victoria. The "Gringo Tuesdays" event is billed as a "Language Exchange and International Party. " 5:00 PM to 3:00 AM.
As always, Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3041261]Is it still possible to meet Regular girls or maybe semi-pros In-person in Medellin? In places other than the grocery store or hooters? Any "cultural exchange" meetup events in Provenza or other places? Or do I need to go deeper in- Sabaneta, Belem, Envigado?[/QUOTE]It is possible, but if you don't live here, it can be a lot of sunk time and cost.
The truth is 99% of the hotter chicas screwing foreigners are interesadas or prepagos.
If you're willing to compromise on attractiveness or age, it will be easier. Many "mid" chicas will be happy with a meal and a place to take a hot shower.
With good Spanish and dancing skills, the clubs in La Setenta on a Friday or Saturday are good.
Be careful with anyone offering you a "good deal"these are often thieves disguised as girlfriends or prepagos.
This is the less obvious issue with dating apps: a foreigner in Poblado wants free sex and matches with some Manrique hood rat. They have no shared agenda or idea what the expectations are. Many girls are embarrassed to ask for money upfront.
Her options are to slowly rinse the guy for Ubers and food, steal from him, drug him, or just ask for money.
Many will play the girlfriend angle first to see how it goes. They'll go on a few dates and then ask for a MacBook "for school. "
She sees the interaction as a way to get something.
Try talking to the 3040-year-olds or slightly thicker chicas. This works much better.
It was absolutely required in Philippines, I'm wondering if it's the thing to do in Colombia or does it make you look like a tourist / easy to snatched?
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3041404]Many will play the girlfriend angle first to see how it goes. They'll go on a few dates and then ask for a MacBook "for school. "
She sees the interaction as a way to get something.[/QUOTE]Can always learn to say no. Chick in Barranquilla asked me for $400 for school right as we were about to fuck. I told her we will see. Skeeted all in her and somehow she is still in school without me giving her 1 peso though.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3041415]It was absolutely required in Philippines, I'm wondering if it's the thing to do in Colombia or does it make you look like a tourist / easy to snatched?[/QUOTE]I believe it'll make you look too touristy & a target. I wear Clothing Arts pick pocket proof pants in all my travels.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3041415]It was absolutely required in Philippines, I'm wondering if it's the thing to do in Colombia or does it make you look like a tourist / easy to snatched?[/QUOTE]Say what? I have been to the Philippines 100 times and have never worn any shit like that. I put my money in my pocket like a normal person would.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3041514]I believe it'll make you look too touristy & a target. I wear Clothing Arts pick pocket proof pants in all my travels.[/QUOTE]If you are not Latino, you will look like a tourist regardless of what you wear. Walking down the street, it is easy to pick out the gringos. Sling bags are very useful for carrying a number of items such as your cellphone, wallet and keys. I wear one and I have not had any problems so far. But if a guy approaches you with a knife or gun, it doesn't matter whether you have a sling bag or pick pocket proof pants.
[QUOTE=ElBacano;3041202]I wish every monger on here a Merry Christmas. I hope you all find the best girls. Being a true expert at the craft. I'll be offering my experience to you normal morons. Fill free to dm me and I'll be posting my awesome wisdom soon. Stay tuned.[/QUOTE]How kind of you El Bacano. Do you have any awesome advice for abnormal morons, too? Just curious.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041525]Say what? I have been to the Philippines 100 times and have never worn any shit like that. I put my money in my pocket like a normal person would.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to the Philippines a hundred times but probably over 20 times and I have found sling bags to be great because you can put your wallet and cellphone and other things together. Pickpocketing is not unusual in the Philippines and putting money in your pocket is easier to steal. Everyone can make their own choice. There really is no right or wrong answer.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041525]Say what? I have been to the Philippines 100 times and have never worn any shit like that. I put my money in my pocket like a normal person would.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you went in Philippines but when I went, there was not a single foreigner that didn't have a sling wallet.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3041415]It was absolutely required in Philippines, I'm wondering if it's the thing to do in Colombia or does it make you look like a tourist / easy to snatched?[/QUOTE]I wear one so I don't have to worry about pick pockets or losing / misplacing things. I use it for the airports to have my documents on me in accessible way. I don't put my passport in a carryon bag. It's very unlikely that you'll come across someone who will try to grab your wallet even much less approach you with a weapon.
Here's the latest as I arrived yesterday. At 2:40 pm. The line was long but it moved fast. There were groups of people so it went well. There's been a lot of discussion about people being detained and turned away at immigration.
I was nervous because the last time I was here the security guy took a photo of my passport as I was leaving! I don't know if he thought I was transporting anything but he was alarmed when he saw all of the stamps on my passport.
So, when I arrived I was sweating profusely like the dude in Midnight Express. The room behind checkpoint was unlit and empty so that relaxed me. But, eventually the lights came on and I saw two dudes with stern looks on their faces directing a guy to the room.
I have never noticed this before but when you are first in line, there are a few seats on the left. I saw two guys sitting there. That's where they make you wait when you go to back room.
I could tell there was something wrong and others noticed too by how flustered and confused the guy was as he was led to the room. I think it is worth repeating here that you MUST do your Check Mig before you arrive and have address, phone number of the place where you are staying entered correctly. You also MUST have place to stay confirmed before you arrive. You can't look for place when you get here. (it's a problem for some).
You have to stick to the script. That is: you are here for "Tourism. " You don't need to say anymore than that. I was nervous and uneasy it was a long trip. You need to have your ticket and passport ready and that will help. That's where crossbody wallet really helps. (people don't like those) LOL.
I hope that helps.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041525]Say what? I have been to the Philippines 100 times and have never worn any shit like that. I put my money in my pocket like a normal person would.[/QUOTE]This is not the Philippines forum.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3041697]There's been a lot of discussion about people being detained and turned away at immigration.
I was nervous because the last time I was here the security guy took a photo of my passport as I was leaving! I don't know if he thought I was transporting anything but he was alarmed when he saw all of the stamps on my passport.
So, when I arrived I was sweating profusely[/QUOTE]A quite ridiculous discussion about people being detained IMHO. If you have not done anything wrong, then what is your worry? What exactly were you nervous about to the point of sweating? It is immigration, not a torture chamber. I have 2 active passports with tons of stamps. Never seen anyone get alarmed because of the amount of stamps. And you said security. All they do is make sure you have nothing you are not supposed to? Why not ask the person why they took the picture? A simple question can alleviate all of your anxiety and nervousness. It is okay to talk to the people.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3041697]I think it is worth repeating here that you MUST do your Check Mig before you arrive and have address, phone number of the place where you are staying entered correctly. You also MUST have place to stay confirmed before you arrive. You can't look for place when you get here. (it's a problem for some).[/QUOTE]It may be worth repeating, but that does not make it true. I have not filled out checkmig in 2 years. Also if you have done it once, your information stays in the system. Several times upon entering without filling the form out, they have asked me are you staying at such and such again? I say you know me like a book. Whenever I travel somewhere and do not know where I am staying and there is a form to fill out, I just put Marriott or some big hotel chain. Don't make this out to be complicated or scary.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041792]A quite ridiculous discussion about people being detained IMHO. If you have not done anything wrong, then what is your worry? What exactly were you nervous about to the point of sweating? It is immigration, not a torture chamber. I have 2 active passports with tons of stamps. Never seen anyone get alarmed because of the amount of stamps. And you said security. All they do is make sure you have nothing you are not supposed to? Why not ask the person why they took the picture? A simple question can alleviate all of your anxiety and nervousness. It is okay to talk to the people.
Whether you think you have done anything wrong is besides the point. We don't know what they are looking for. Yes, it's immigration but doesn't have to be torture to cause concern. I am sure you haven't seen anyone who has been alarmed but you haven't seen everybody.
It may be worth repeating, but that does not make it true. I have not filled out checkmig in 2 years. Also if you have done it once, your information stays in the system. Several times upon entering without filling the form out, they have asked me are you staying at such and such again? I say you know me like a book. Whenever I travel somewhere and do not know where I am staying and there is a form to fill out, I just put Marriott or some big hotel chain. Don't make this out to be complicated or scary.[/QUOTE]It doesn't make it wrong either. Not everyone has been to Medellin multiple times like you or I. It doesn't hurt to fill out the Check Mig form. I get your point the airlines no longer require you to do this but it's not difficult to do. Also, I not fluent in Spanish. So I can't engage in the back and forth that are accustomed to.
I never said or implied that entering Medellin was complicated. Nor am I trying to "scare" people as you suggest. This information isn't useful for you but might help others.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3041792]
It may be worth repeating, but that does not make it true. I have not filled out checkmig in 2 years. Also if you have done it once, your information stays in the system. Several times upon entering without filling the form out, they have asked me are you staying at such and such again? I say you know me like a book. Whenever I travel somewhere and do not know where I am staying and there is a form to fill out, I just put Marriott or some big hotel chain. Don't make this out to be complicated or scary.[/QUOTE]Checkmig is broken for me: my information never stays in the system. Further the options available don't include my visa category, but it doesn't matter: most (all?) of the information you (or, at least, I) enter never gets seen by the entry agent. I do try and fill it out but I have forgotten on occasion and it seems to make no difference.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3041415]It was absolutely required in Philippines, I'm wondering if it's the thing to do in Colombia or does it make you look like a tourist / easy to snatched?[/QUOTE]I'm a gringo: I look like a tourist with or without a cross-body bag. I use one everywhere I go, not just in Colombia. In fact I've been stolen from less in Colombia than in Spain.
I entered at MDE last week. I travel to Medellin 3-4 times a year. The agent definitely spent more time typing stuff and checking his computer screen than I have ever seen but I got in no secondary inspection. It takes me less than 5 minutes to fill out checkmig on my PC and if there is even a small chance that it helps keep me out of secondary its worth the 5 minutes it takes. The government does want you to do it. The only question he asked was where I was staying.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3041697]I could tell there was something wrong and others noticed too by how flustered and confused the guy was as he was led to the room. I think it is worth repeating here that you MUST do your Check Mig before you arrive and have address, phone number of the place where you are staying entered correctly. You also MUST have place to stay confirmed before you arrive. You can't look for place when you get here. (it's a problem for some).
I hope that helps.[/QUOTE]It would help if it were correct. Here is what Colombia's official immigration site says right now: 'Estamos realizando mejoras tecnológicas al aplicativo Check-Mig. Por lo tanto, en este momento no es necesario diligenciarlo. Te esperamos en nuestros puestos de control migratorio para que realices con normalidad tu proceso de ingreso o salida de Colombia. ' So it isn't even being used now, and hasn't been used for at least six or seven weeks. Most likely you got ripped off by a third party provider. I have entered Colombia maybe eight times, including in late Oct. Of this year, and have never been asked where I was staying. Of course, they certainly have the right to ask you whatever they want.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3041894]It would help if it were correct. Here is what Colombia's official immigration site says right now: 'Estamos realizando mejoras tecnolgicas al aplicativo Check-Mig. Por lo tanto, en este momento no es necesario diligenciarlo. Te esperamos en nuestros puestos de control migratorio para que realices con normalidad tu proceso de ingreso o salida de Colombia. ' So it isn't even being used now, and hasn't been used for at least six or seven weeks. Most likely you got ripped off by a third party provider. I have entered Colombia maybe eight times, including in late Oct. Of this year, and have never been asked where I was staying. Of course, they certainly have the right to ask you whatever they want.[/QUOTE]Wow very good intel. I am impressed.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3041894]It would help if it were correct. Here is what Colombia's official immigration site says right now: 'Estamos realizando mejoras tecnolgicas al aplicativo Check-Mig. Por lo tanto, en este momento no es necesario diligenciarlo. Te esperamos en nuestros puestos de control migratorio para que realices con normalidad tu proceso de ingreso o salida de Colombia. ' So it isn't even being used now, and hasn't been used for at least six or seven weeks. Most likely you got ripped off by a third party provider. I have entered Colombia maybe eight times, including in late Oct. Of this year, and have never been asked where I was staying. Of course, they certainly have the right to ask you whatever they want.[/QUOTE]It works for you because you speak and can read Spanish. The airlines don't require it anymore but I would not tell someone not do it. There's a lot of this following statement" No one says anything to me and I have been there several times."
You cannot guarantee someone will have your experience. Especially folks who not Spanish. I have been here dozens of times and cannot recall a time when immigration did not ask where I was staying. Also, I think I saw signs that said you provide information on where you are staying.
It sounds like you are being treated more favorably than those of us who are "gringos."
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3041877]I entered at MDE last week. I travel to Medellin 3-4 times a year. The agent definitely spent more time typing stuff and checking his computer screen than I have ever seen but I got in no secondary inspection. It takes me less than 5 minutes to fill out checkmig on my PC and if there is even a small chance that it helps keep me out of secondary it's worth the 5 minutes it takes. The government does want you to do it. The only question he asked was where I was staying.[/QUOTE]It only take a few minutes so why would you not do it? There's no upside in not doing it unless
[QUOTE=Huacho;3041894]It would help if it were correct. Here is what Colombia's official immigration site says right now: 'Estamos realizando mejoras tecnolgicas al aplicativo Check-Mig. Por lo tanto, en este momento no es necesario diligenciarlo. Te esperamos en nuestros puestos de control migratorio para que realices con normalidad tu proceso de ingreso o salida de Colombia. ' So it isn't even being used now, and hasn't been used for at least six or seven weeks. Most likely you got ripped off by a third party provider. I have entered Colombia maybe eight times, including in late Oct. Of this year, and have never been asked where I was staying. Of course, they certainly have the right to ask you whatever they want.[/QUOTE]When I go to their site now I see that pop up message but it was not there a little over 2 weeks ago. The site worked fine. One thing I can tell you is that if you do fill it out the agent has all that info on his computer. I asked one once and he confirmed that but I also still print out the confirmation page and give it to them. Anything to stay out of secondary.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042036]It works for you because you speak and can read Spanish. The airlines don't require it anymore but I would not tell someone not do it. There's a lot of this following statement" No one says anything to me and I have been there several times."
You cannot guarantee someone will have your experience. Especially folks who not Spanish. I have been here dozens of times and cannot recall a time when immigration did not ask where I was staying. Also, I think I saw signs that said you provide information on where you are staying.
It sounds like you are being treated more favorably than those of us who are "gringos."[/QUOTE]Did you pay a third party site for CheckMig? It is flat out not being used, is not required, and is not a thing at this time. I am an obvious gringo, albeit a Spanish speaking gringo.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042038]It only take a few minutes so why would you not do it? There's no upside in not doing it unless[/QUOTE]Neither is there and upside in doing it.
I have been to Colombia well over 100 times and have never been to any secondary inspection. Once before I even checked in for my flight, I was walking around the airport in Medellin and a military guy took me to a back room to do a body scan. Other than that, nothing ever.
I arrived in Bogota 2 days ago. The line was long as shit. I went to the disabled line and was first up. I did not fill out any checkmig. The guy asked me the purpose of my trip. I said tourism. He said where are you staying. I know the address by heart and told him. He said is this a hotel or apartment or what? I told him hotel. He asked if I had a reservation. I said yes. He wanted to see it and I was confused since I have never been asked this before, so I did not have anything ready to show. I started looking through my phone for an email or screenshot and when I found something he did not want to see it. He asked me why I came through the kids line. I looked at him confused. He said this is the kids line. I said I thought this was the handicap line. He said it is. I said and I am disabled. He said you do not look like it. I said would you like to see my ID card? He said no and gave me my passport back to proceed to customs.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3042227]Did you pay a third party site for CheckMig? It is flat out not being used, is not required, and is not a thing at this time. I am an obvious gringo, albeit a Spanish speaking gringo.[/QUOTE]I never had to use a third party for the check mig, I always used the official website without problem: [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/en[/URL].
Checkmig has always been free to use. It is in fact optional. It populates the immigration agents' system with the data you input. Those data are basically the questions the agents ask you. Sometimes they will confirm the information the way Colombians do when they ask your name 10 seconds after you introduce yourself. It can save a bit of time in the immigration hall. I use it when I have time and when I remember. Back on the core topic, there is a new spinner at Amigas Sexxy I enjoyed meeting a couple of days ago.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3042390]I never had to use a third party for the check mig, I always used the official website without problem: [URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/en[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3042366]Neither is there and upside in doing it.[/QUOTE]The upside is that I don't get asked the questions you listed in your comment. Occasionally, the agent will ask me where I'm staying. I always have it written on a piece of paper, and show him when asked. He never types anything into the computer when he looks at the address. When I arrived in August, after the improvement message was put on the check-mig website, I asked the agent if he could see the check-mig information. He said he could. Even though that message is on the site, you can still fill out the form.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3042406]Those data are basically the questions the agents ask you. Sometimes they will confirm the information [b]the way Colombians do when they ask your name 10 seconds after you introduce yourself.[/b][/QUOTE]They also ask how you are doing 4 times during the first minute. Don't know if I sound like an asshole by saying you already asked me that, but it grinds my gears being asked the same thing over and over.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3042366]Neither is there and upside in doing it.
I have been to Colombia well over 100 times and have never been to any secondary inspection. Once before I even checked in for my flight, I was walking around the airport in Medellin and a military guy took me to a back room to do a body scan. Other than that, nothing ever.
I arrived in Bogota 2 days ago. The line was long as shit. I went to the disabled line and was first up. I did not fill out any checkmig. The guy asked me the purpose of my trip. I said tourism. He said where are you staying. I know the address by heart and told him. He said is this a hotel or apartment or what? I told him hotel. He asked if I had a reservation. I said yes. He wanted to see it and I was confused since I have never been asked this before, so I did not have anything ready to show. I started looking through my phone for an email or screenshot and when I found something he did not want to see it. He asked me why I came through the kids line. I looked at him confused. He said this is the kids line. I said I thought this was the handicap line. He said it is. I said and I am disabled. He said you do not look like it. I said would you like to see my ID card? He said no and gave me my passport back to proceed to customs.[/QUOTE]Do you talk back to the screen when you go to the movies? Everyone's experience is different. I've never had the type of back and forth with immigration that you had when you landed in Bogota. It takes less than 5 minutes to do and I am done. I don't speak Spanish so I don't can't be debating or arguing with immigration. It's not worth it and after a long series of flights I am too exhausted.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3042227]Did you pay a third party site for CheckMig? It is flat out not being used, is not required, and is not a thing at this time. I am an obvious gringo, albeit a Spanish speaking gringo.[/QUOTE]It's interesting that you asked if I used a 3rd party site for Check Mig. The first time I travelled to Medellin 3 tears ago I did not do Check Mig. I was not allowed to check in at SFO. When I went to the site it would crash or not allow me to continue. I would have missed my flight if I did not use the IVisa app. I had to pay for an expedited Check Mig within the hour for $60.
For awhile it was thing, I would watch confused passengers forced to register before the flight at FLL. It can take a lot of time to get through and it's distressing when your flight can leave without you.
The airlines don't insist on it now. But, I can see that the immigration officer is comparing my Airbnb reservation with what is on the computer. They always ask where I am staying and in some instances the phone number.
Completing that form gives me the peace of mind knowing that I can be admitted quickly.
If you had to rank the Casas how would you rank them?
Loutron.
Newlife.
Energy.
Amigas Sexi.
Any others I missed. Looking for a few good options.
TIA.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3042593]It's interesting that you asked if I used a 3rd party site for Check Mig. The first time I travelled to Medellin 3 tears ago I did not do Check Mig. I was not allowed to check in at SFO. When I went to the site it would crash or not allow me to continue. I would have missed my flight if I did not use the IVisa app. I had to pay for an expedited Check Mig within the hour for $60.
For awhile it was thing, I would watch confused passengers forced to register before the flight at FLL. It can take a lot of time to get through and it's distressing when your flight can leave without you.
The airlines don't insist on it now. But, I can see that the immigration officer is comparing my Airbnb reservation with what is on the computer. They always ask where I am staying and in some instances the phone number.
Completing that form gives me the peace of mind knowing that I can be admitted quickly.[/QUOTE]I think it was late 2021 when I experienced a lot of problems with the official website. It was pretty wonky. I finally used a VPN with a Colombia connection and was able to complete the form. Did not work with VPN with a Yew Ess connection. I was in Guatemala at the time. In fact of all the times I have flown to Colombia, it has never been from the Yew Ess and maybe that is why I don't get questioned. Maybe. I don't have any passport stamps from Thailand, DR, Mexico etc. Either in the latest passport. That might also factor in. Plus I am old and white.
Just came back from the trip. Visited the below casas.
Highest priced for 440 k is loutrong, best variety, presentation and service and mostly 7-9's.
Energy is next next to laureles. About 200 k and 400 k for two girls. Mostly 6-8's.
Lower tier and below 100 k ranked are where locals monger are.
Amigas sexii and playmates both near plaza boater. They still had cuties but you can see anywhere from 1-8's here.
I didn't have the chance to go to newlife unless it's also called playmates which are walking distance to each other.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042599]If you had to rank the Casas how would you rank them?
Loutron.
Newlife.
Energy.
Amigas Sexi.
Any others I missed. Looking for a few good options.
TIA.[/QUOTE]
Main two strip clubs are Isla and FAse 2.
AT ISla I had to get a bucket of beer around 250 k to sit in a table. Also had a hookah for fun. Entrance 50 k. Girls are 500 k for 1 HR and to take them home about 1. 5 million. Girls are good looking anywhere from 5 to 9's. I had the pleasure of seeing a shortie called Valentina. Actually I got her number and saw her after her working hours. Paid 400 k for that experience for 2 hours. She was GFE and I enjoyed my time.
FAse 2 is in a bad part of town but you can arrive safely. I have never spent so much money to strippers but it's easy to get carried when you are thrown 2 mil pesos that are worth 50 cents. I probably spent around 100 dollars in tips for these girls but they were swarming me and looking for attention. Cover is 30 k, prices are 500 k to take a girl upstairs and 1. 2 million to take them home for few hours.
Also had to buy a bucket of beer for 230 k and I liked the vibe better here than Isla. More girls to guys ratio although the Isla girls were hotter. Had the pleasure to take a Venezuelan upstairs, badass body her name was Barbara. You can also get their number and negotiate to meet outside the club.
Did not go to Barra ejective but heard is a a lower tier class and more accessible.
Was new life the casa the got robbed earlier this year?
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3042622]Main two strip clubs are Isla and FAse 2.
AT ISla I had to get a bucket of beer around 250 k to sit in a table. Also had a hookah for fun. Entrance 50 k. Girls are 500 k for 1 HR and to take them home about 1. 5 million. Girls are good looking anywhere from 5 to 9's. I had the pleasure of seeing a shortie called Valentina. Actually I got her number and saw her after her working hours. Paid 400 k for that experience for 2 hours. She was GFE and I enjoyed my time.
FAse 2 is in a bad part of town but you can arrive safely. I have never spent so much money to strippers but it's easy to get carried when you are thrown 2 mil pesos that are worth 50 cents. I probably spent around 100 dollars in tips for these girls but they were swarming me and looking for attention. Cover is 30 k, prices are 500 k to take a girl upstairs and 1. 2 million to take them home for few hours.
Also had to buy a bucket of beer for 230 k and I liked the vibe better here than Isla. More girls to guys ratio although the Isla girls were hotter. Had the pleasure to take a Venezuelan upstairs, badass body her name was Barbara. You can also get their number and negotiate to meet outside the club.
Did not go to Barra ejective but heard is a a lower tier class and more accessible.[/QUOTE]I kind of like Barra Ejectiva. And I have run into some pretty good looking girls there. But I'll agree with you that Fase 2 is the better vibe. It's not that bad a part of town. It's just an industrial part of town. There is a nice brewery right around the corner.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042655]Was new life the casa the got robbed earlier this year?[/QUOTE]Yes it was. I wouldn't hesitate to go there though, almost every place in Medellin gets robbed eventually. They have been in business for many many years and this is the first time that they have been robbed. Casas like New Life are the safest places to bang chicas.
The site appears back to normal whatever that is. I filled out a form this am and no issues, heading back to the US after being here 4 months. Recently received my Pensionado Visa if anybody has a question about the process which seems to change frequently.
Enjoy!
That is the place. Even though I haven't been in the place in close to two years, I remember the man trap style steel gates with magnetic lock controls. It makes me suspect there might have been some insider activity behind what happened. Anyway I think it's unlikely that sort of lightening will strike twice in the place. In my opinion it is neck and neck with the bar at the San Peter building as the #1 place to be around other gringo punters.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042655]Was new life the casa the got robbed earlier this year?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoleRanger;3042778]The site appears back to normal whatever that is. I filled out a form this am and no issues, heading back to the US after being here 4 months. Recently received my Pensionado Visa if anybody has a question about the process which seems to change frequently.[/QUOTE]Yep, the pop up message is gone. What a disorganized country. Fun though. The beer needs a lot of work.
What would be a red flag in Fotoprepagos for you? Trying to Guage how safe it is to go a Chicas place.
Photoprepagos (I think it's spelled with "ph") is a good resource. You can rely on the reviews. Normal precautions (don't bring a lot of extra cash or valuables and keep track of what you do bring) are generally sufficient. No positive reviews would be a red flag.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042804]What would be a red flag in Fotoprepagos for you? Trying to Guage how safe it is to go a Chicas place.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys, for this holiday season, I'm visiting Medellin from the Dec 22nd 'till Jan 10th. I'm in a weird position this year, where I have nobody to celebrate the holidays with back home. Being a non-Spanish speaker, does anyone have any suggestions on what to do during Christmas and NYE? Any fun events? Suggestions for activities (including mongering, like what's open or where I should look if I want to bust a quick nut, or just normal fun things), will be appreciated.
Also, has anyone checked out Gringo Tuesdays? I want to meet up with other mongers, not sure if that event is worth it?
I've been wanting to learn some Spanish while I'm here, anyone have any tips or things that really helped them learn while in Medellin?
Thanks all.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3042791]That is the place. Even though I haven't been in the place in close to two years, I remember the man trap style steel gates with magnetic lock controls. It makes me suspect there might have been some insider activity behind what happened. Anyway I think it's unlikely that sort of lightening will strike twice in the place. In my opinion it is neck and neck with the bar at the San Peter building as the #1 place to be around other gringo punters.[/QUOTE]When I am visiting mde the LAST place I want to be is around other gringo punters. Any type of place that caters to mostly locals is EXACTLY where I want to be.
[QUOTE=BluePillow;3042980]Hey guys, for this holiday season, I'm visiting Medellin from the Dec 22nd 'till Jan 10th. I'm in a weird position this year, where I have nobody to celebrate the holidays with back home. Being a non-Spanish speaker, does anyone have any suggestions on what to do during Christmas and NYE? Any fun events? Suggestions for activities (including mongering, like what's open or where I should look if I want to bust a quick nut, or just normal fun things), will be appreciated.
Also, has anyone checked out Gringo Tuesdays? I want to meet up with other mongers, not sure if that event is worth it?
I've been wanting to learn some Spanish while I'm here, anyone have any tips or things that really helped them learn while in Medellin?.[/QUOTE]Like other mongers suggested. Try fb and tinder or SA. Also frequenting a place like a soda, restaurant or coffee shop with a hot local brings familiarity. Just play casual strike a conversation and see if she is willing to hang out after or before work. It has worked for many here including me. Lights around plaza del Rio is pretty. Say you want to check it with her and see how it goes. The thing is that for most Colombian women they tend to travel to their places for noche buena until new year so you might not find as many until after new year. Good luck.
[QUOTE=LightPanda1234;3043083]Like other mongers suggested. Try fb and tinder or SA. Also frequenting a place like a soda, restaurant or coffee shop with a hot local brings familiarity. Just play casual strike a conversation and see if she is willing to hang out after or before work. It has worked for many here including me. Lights around plaza del Rio is pretty. Say you want to check it with her and see how it goes. The thing is that for most Colombian women they tend to travel to their places for noche buena until new year so you might not find as many until after new year. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Sweet Georgia Cafe is having a Christmas buffet of turkey, fried chicken. Mashed potatoes, Mac and cheese plus other sides for 100,000 cop on Dec 25th.
[QUOTE=Shemp;3043006]When I am visiting mde the LAST place I want to be is around other gringo punters. Any type of place that caters to mostly locals is EXACTLY where I want to be.[/QUOTE]I avoid Gringos and where they congregate. These guys travel to a foreign country and act like they never left and bring their bad attitudes, arrogance and sense of entitlement. They could care less about the local culture and traditions. It's only about "them".
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042804]What would be a red flag in Fotoprepagos for you? Trying to Guage how safe it is to go a Chicas place.[/QUOTE]A good tip is to try and google their contact and see what other site it might cross refrence with. Sometimes youll find that multipple girls will use the same canned responds so you can from there figure out of its a casa or maybe a fly by night one that has just a couple of people. Also a lot of the better indepdneants tend to work out of the same aparmtent complexes. Safe bets are the ones in Las Palmas or in Poblado at Bel monte or that other one near Ciduad Del Rio. I would not visit providers in Bello, or too far south. There will be a lot of providers near Estadio and near Unicentro, that is whre I would be more cautios and watch uour back with mostling how you move. Getting in and out of your taxi, waiting outside the door before they open it etc. Just extra street smarts and trust your gut.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3042804]What would be a red flag in Fotoprepagos for you? Trying to Guage how safe it is to go a Chicas place.[/QUOTE]Safe is highly subjective. I never feel 100% safe.
Most of the risk is bait-and-switch. Never be afraid to walk away. Never sleep with someone you don't like.
I always screenshot and send the exact picture of who I'm interested in. Ask about upsell costs. Sometimes they have a better attitude when paying for the full hour versus half.
Sometimes they quote slightly cheaper rates to a +57 country code inquiry.
The listings with blurred-out faces can be frustrating. I ask them for a better photo; if they refuse, I tell them I need to decide in person.
Most of the time, these listings will lead you to a casa or massage parlor.
Usually, they have a personal WhatsApp number or social media. They may have cute friends.
I do not do domicilios before meeting these chicas. If you do this, meet her outside. If she doesn't look good, just offer 50 mil to go away.
I did have one instance in Cali where it was a bait-and-switch. I went into her private apartment. She demanded 50 mil, and I demanded to leave.
She blocked the door, and I finally offered her 10 mil to move out of the doorway.
I try to find places around my apartment. Get to know them and they will come by my place for 50 mil extra.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3044180]If she doesn't look good, just offer 50 mil to go away.[/QUOTE]50,000 pesos to go away? You might as well fuck them since it costs that much to fuck in a lot of places anyway.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3044180]Safe is highly subjective. I never feel 100% safe.
Most of the risk is bait-and-switch. Never be afraid to walk away. Never sleep with someone you don't like.
I always screenshot and send the exact picture of who I'm interested in. Ask about upsell costs. Sometimes they have a better attitude when paying for the full hour versus half.
Sometimes they quote slightly cheaper rates to a +57 country code inquiry.
The listings with blurred-out faces can be frustrating. I ask them for a better photo; if they refuse, I tell them I need to decide in person.
Most of the time, these listings will lead you to a casa or massage parlor.
Usually, they have a personal WhatsApp number or social media. They may have cute friends.
I do not do domicilios before meeting these chicas. If you do this, meet her outside. If she doesn't look good, just offer 50 mil to go away.
I did have one instance in Cali where it was a bait-and-switch. I went into her private apartment. She demanded 50 mil, and I demanded to leave.
She blocked the door, and I finally offered her 10 mil to move out of the doorway.
I try to find places around my apartment. Get to know them and they will come by my place for 50 mil extra.[/QUOTE]I agree, most adds are fake and a big deception on place. Girls who could earn a millions cop in a night at a high end brothel with safety would no sell themselve alone at home for 30 000 cop.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3044276]I agree, most adds are fake and a big deception on place. Girls who could earn a millions cop in a night at a high end brothel with safety would no sell themselve alone at home for 30 000 cop.[/QUOTE]The last reports are a bit disappointing for me, who goes to Medellin soon and like to arrange meetings online. Is it really that bad with these adds? I had great experiences in Centralamerica with [URL]wanuncios.com[/URL] and [URL]skokka.com[/URL].
Is Tinder a thing to ask straightforward what you are you looking for and offer recompensation?
Some years ago, there were a great massage / brothel in Carrera 70 A Laureles, seems it doesn't be there anymore. Liked the professional and friendly atmosphere with a price list for different kind of services. Anyone want to share some good places to go? Read below that New Life, Energy or Amigas Sexy should be good.
I also want to check the girls in el centro, I can remember that most of them weren't my type, but I saw one or two worth trying. I'm not sure how it works there? Do they have rooms nearby always and what are the rough prices for service and accommodation there? Is it safe (speak good Spanish)?
Lots of questions. Going to give back after my trip. Thanks.
[QUOTE=PSAddict;3044293]The last reports are a bit disappointing for me, who goes to Medellin soon and like to arrange meetings online. Is it really that bad with these adds? I had great experiences in Centralamerica with [URL]wanuncios.com[/URL] and [URL]skokka.com[/URL].
Is Tinder a thing to ask straightforward what you are you looking for and offer recompensation?
Some years ago, there were a great massage / brothel in Carrera 70 A Laureles, seems it doesn't be there anymore. Liked the professional and friendly atmosphere with a price list for different kind of services. Anyone want to share some good places to go? Read below that New Life, Energy or Amigas Sexy should be good.
I also want to check the girls in el centro, I can remember that most of them weren't my type, but I saw one or two worth trying. I'm not sure how it works there? Do they have rooms nearby always and what are the rough prices for service and accommodation there? Is it safe (speak good Spanish)?.[/QUOTE]My experiences with dedicated websites aren't bad. Overall, they probably involve the least amount of drama and offer the prettiest women for their rate.
Tinder and Bumble have produced the most drama. There are a lot of chicas who will go silent when propositioned. It's safe to say that if you're a foreigner, they either want dinners, drinks, trips, gifts, cash, or to rob you. It's very unlikely that a hot paisa is on there looking for a fling with no strings attached—I know it does happen sometimes. There are chicas there looking for a real boyfriend.
Many of them will play the girlfriend angle first and accept dinner invitations. They will avoid sex until you offer money. These types might be willing to go on multiple dates and string you along indefinitely.
A direct proposition of cash weeds these types of dabblers out. Be careful if her price seems "off" or a "great deal."
Some of them will say they aren't a prepago, but they will do it for some high rate. I truly believe they believe themselves. They may not be a prepago, but they are very similar to the Facebook types from years past.
I would not allow them inside my apartment first time. A lot of guys do. Before I host someone at home, I get ID, social media, home address, workplace, school—all of it. It's too easy to get drugged now. They know the police won't help foreigners.
If you let one sleep over, plan on her checking your phone for a biometric unlock while you sleep, or rifling through closets and the kitchen.
The scam is to build trust and collect info, then hit the guy for everything after he thinks it's true love.
The centro scene outside of the usual casas and discos—I assume streetwalkers.
The hotter ones in Plaza Botero that I've found were just walking around. They were dressed a little better than the ones leaning out of the short-term hotel entrances in booty shorts and a tube top. Sometimes I can't tell if she's working unless she smiles and makes eye contact. There's very little time for hesitation.
The Veracruz chicas come out by 9 am And steadily increase as time goes by. Most want 50 to 100 mil. The short-term room is 30 to 40 mil. After one session in the STH, some are willing to travel to your place—just pay their taxi and normal rate.
Beware: There are a lot of minors working this area, and Medellin is looking to make examples out of foreigners lately. They all have fake IDs too. Avoid at all costs.
Earlier this month, I spent 10 days in Medellin. Stayed near Lleras in an AirBnb. Most of the time, I was with girls I met on earlier trips but I did venture out to a few "massage" places. Initially, I went to the Centro casas but the quality was much lower than I was used to on earlier trips. Visited New Life and the place on the second floor of Caracas mall but went out again both times without making a choice.
Afterwards, I visited a few spas in Laureles and they were much better (although pricier). The local mongers forum Catador Colombia ([URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL]) was a great help in finding these places. They rarely mention addresses but they do mention phone numbers. A short Whatsapp message (Hola.) usually led to full info about girls present (with photos). To get the street address, I had to ask where they are located. Used a Colombian phone number. Most of these places prefer that you make an appointment with a specific girl but you can also just show up and ask for a "presentacion".
The place I liked most on this trip was Tantra Massage: decent neighborhood, friendly reception and several very doable girls. I went there 4 times (repeated once with one girl). At the presentation, I saw six girls. Price 180 k for 1 hour (plus 50 k for BBBJ). That is on the high side for a Medellin spa but I really liked the quality and attitude of the girls.
Another really good place was Ellas Erotic in Belen. It is a clean place and recently renovated. There, I had a very good session with 18 yo Mariana. She was totally service-minded and with a body you might expect from a girl of her age. Price: 160 k (plus 50 k for BBBJ). While I was waiting for her, I saw several other girls, some of which also looked exactly like their photos. Also went to their other site (in Colores) but did not like it: decrepit rooms and listless girls. But I may have been there on a bad moment. YMMV, as always.
On another day, I went to Angeles Spa on Cra. 81. Prices were 170 k. If you don't pick a girl, it is 30 k for the presentation (they mentioned this to me when I got in). Had a great session with 22 yo Hanna. Good GFE with DFK but again 50 k extra for BBBJ.
I visited all of these places in the afternoon, making use of the metro, metrobus and electric bus (all within the metro system). Easy and cheap.
Next time, I'll check out more of these spas. There must be dozens of them all over Laureles and Belen.
Unfortunately there are not dozens. There are 10 or so of similar quality to those you mentioned. You can negotiate that extra charge down to 30 k or so with repeat visits. There are two Ellas Erotica locations. Overall I think they are the most popular of the lot and I think it's for the reason you mentioned, the facilities are recently renovated. Congratulations on posting the best report here in a long time.
[QUOTE=Bucanero;3044364]Earlier this month, I spent 10 days in Medellin. Stayed near Lleras in an AirBnb. Most of the time, I was with girls I met on earlier trips but I did venture out to a few "massage" places. Initially, I went to the Centro casas but the quality was much lower than I was used to on earlier trips. Visited New Life and the place on the second floor of Caracas mall but went out again both times without making a choice.
Afterwards, I visited a few spas in Laureles and they were much better (although pricier). The local mongers forum Catador Colombia ([URL]https://catadorcolombia.com/[/URL]) was a great help in finding these places. They rarely mention addresses but they do mention phone numbers. A short Whatsapp message (Hola.) usually led to full info about girls present (with photos). To get the street address, I had to ask where they are located. Used a Colombian phone number. Most of these places prefer that you make an appointment with a specific girl but you can also just show up and ask for a "presentacion"..[/QUOTE]
I went to Golden House casa at Cara 80 A - #36-21 . Only one girl, Sophia, was available. She seemed to be in good spirits. I was quoted 120 k for 30 minutes and 170 k for 1 hora. I chose 120 k and ordered three beers for 12 k each. Sophia is 22 year old She has one baby, so a little bit of baby fat still on her. Really bib boobs, dark complexion. She was obedient and did everything as I wanted. It was a normal experience, neither good nor bad.
I met Alejandra from tinder. I was initially skeptical about meeting anyone from tinder, but she agreed to do a video call and was ok with showing her cedula to the front desk, so I took a chance. She charged me 250 k for 2 hours. The date started off well and she was chatty and affectionate. I gave her a short massage that made her hot. We fucked for about 45 minutes before I came. Then she asked for food and I ordered a pizza. But she was not up for the second round and said first she has to eat. After eating she said "time's up". Kinda bummed me out. But oh, well. You learn something everyday.
I think I will keep some food with me everyday so if the chica wants she can eat and I don't waste time waiting for crap.
[QUOTE=Bucanero;3044364]I went to the Centro casas but the quality was much lower than I was used to on earlier trips. Visited New Life and the place on the second floor of Caracas mall but went out again both times without making a choice.
[/QUOTE]Nice report. Yeah, El Centro used to be a crazy about 10 years ago. Not only the casas but the strip clubs and SWs. I've been to the casas in Laureles, but that was a few years ago. Glad you had a good time.
[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;3044498]I met Alejandra from tinder. I was initially skeptical about meeting anyone from tinder, but she agreed to do a video call and was ok with showing her cedula to the front desk, so I took a chance. She charged me 250 k for 2 hours. The date started off well and she was chatty and affectionate. I gave her a short massage that made her hot. We fucked for about 45 minutes before I came. Then she asked for food and I ordered a pizza. But she was not up for the second round and said first she has to eat. After eating she said "time's up". Kinda bummed me out. But oh, well. You learn something everyday.
I think I will keep some food with me everyday so if the chica wants she can eat and I don't waste time waiting for crap.[/QUOTE]Could you say a little about Alejandra? Hot or not, short, tall, face, body?
[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;3044498]I met Alejandra from tinder. I was initially skeptical about meeting anyone from tinder, but she agreed to do a video call and was ok with showing her cedula to the front desk, so I took a chance. She charged me 250 k for 2 hours. The date started off well and she was chatty and affectionate. I gave her a short massage that made her hot. We fucked for about 45 minutes before I came. Then she asked for food and I ordered a pizza. But she was not up for the second round and said first she has to eat. After eating she said "time's up". Kinda bummed me out. But oh, well. You learn something everyday.
I think I will keep some food with me everyday so if the chica wants she can eat and I don't waste time waiting for crap.[/QUOTE]ALWAYS have snacks. They love to pull this time up nonense. I once had a chick who I would bone come over. She ask for wings as soon as she arrived. I was like fine we will wait for food. Then while waiting she attacks me and drains my cock soo fast that she finished before the Rappi could come. The wings arrive and she goes to the bathroom freshesns up, grabs the bag, calls her own uber and fucking bounces!!
Fucking cunts, always have food and snacks ready, even have chicken nuggets and fries you can throw in the airfryer so they don't do that bullshit of dine and dash.
[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;3044498]I think I will keep some food with me everyday so if the chica wants she can eat and I don't waste time waiting for crap.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your money. It is obvious the chick was ready to leave. A prime rib buffet would not have kept her around.
[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;3044498]Then she asked for food and I ordered a pizza. But she was not up for the second round and said first she has to eat. After eating she said "time's up". Kinda bummed me out. But oh, well. You learn something everyday.
I think I will keep some food with me everyday so if the chica wants she can eat and I don't waste time waiting for crap.[/QUOTE]She's there to fck not to eat. Sounds like she wasn't going to work anymore.
Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). Granted, the girls are hot.
I am by no means an expert about these punter paradise places. The question I would pose is, assuming the Parque Lleras girls aren't vastly better, why not go the La Isla and Fase Dos route? Besides the cost advantage, I've never heard of anyone getting drugged and robbed by a girl sourced from the upmarket strip clubs.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044655]Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). Granted, the girls are hot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044655]Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). Granted, the girls are hot.[/QUOTE]I remember when guys used to complain because girls in Costa Rica wanted $100.
Prices in Medellin will continue to go up. The girls realize they can name damn near whatever price and dudes will pay it because they think the girls are hot and they flew all the way to Colombia. It's not only hookers, the price of everything is bumping up. This morning I took a walk to the supermarket and saw at least 8 foreigners in 15 minutes in Laureles which has become about as bad as El Poblado in terms of Gringos. There is zero Gringo novelty like there used to be. Parque Lleras is ground zero for Gringo ripoffs.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044769]I remember when guys used to complain because girls in Costa Rica wanted $100.
Prices in Medellin will continue to go up. The girls realize they can name damn near whatever price and dudes will pay it because they think the girls are hot and they flew all the way to Colombia. It's not only hookers, the price of everything is bumping up. This morning I took a walk to the supermarket and saw at least 8 foreigners in 15 minutes in Laureles which has become about as bad as El Poblado in terms of Gringos. There is zero Gringo novelty like there used to be. Parque Lleras is ground zero for Gringo ripoffs.[/QUOTE]Plus the dollar is down to around 3,750 pesos and has been steadily dropping since April when the stupid tariffs were announced. So everything is more expensive now.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044655]Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). [b]Granted, the girls are hot.[/b][/QUOTE]Take them to the bathroom where the light is, then come back and tell us how hot they are. They are just normal chicks. The setting and wardrobe is what makes them hot. Same chick was at the mall working in her regular job, you probably would not pay her any attention. And that is where I come in; to pay them attention on her regular job so I will not be asked for a ridiculous 1 million pesos.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3044784]Plus the dollar is down to around 3,750 pesos and has been steadily dropping since April when the stupid tariffs were announced. So everything is more expensive now.[/QUOTE]Good point. We're getting screwed all the way around. Flights are also increasingly more expensive.
But compared to US the prices are still good. If a 55-year-old average-looking guy (Me) wants a hot 25-year-old, I need to have a million-dollar boat in Miami.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044769]I remember when guys used to complain because girls in Costa Rica wanted $100.
Prices in Medellin will continue to go up. The girls realize they can name damn near whatever price and dudes will pay it because they think the girls are hot and they flew all the way to Colombia. It's not only hookers, the price of everything is bumping up. This morning I took a walk to the supermarket and saw at least 8 foreigners in 15 minutes in Laureles which has become about as bad as El Poblado in terms of Gringos. There is zero Gringo novelty like there used to be. Parque Lleras is ground zero for Gringo ripoffs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3044784]Plus the dollar is down to around 3,750 pesos and has been steadily dropping since April when the stupid tariffs were announced. So everything is more expensive now.[/QUOTE]The US dollar has been depreciating for the past year against most foreign currencies so for Americans, even if the price in pesos remains the same, it will cost you more. One year ago, it was 4400 pesos to the dollar. Now it is 3715 pesos to the dollar.
Not much you can do about that. As for gringos in Laureles, it is the second most popular neighborhood but it is still nothing compared to the number of gringos in Poblado. Keep in mind that you don't need to stay in the two most popular neighborhoods for gringos. There are other neighborhoods where you can stay and barely see any gringos. If you don't want to see so many gringos, don't stay in Poblado or Laureles.
As for the prices that the girls are asking, they can ask for as much as they want. That is their right and you can't blame them for asking for as much as they think they can get. It is up to the guy whether he wants to accept the offer or not. If it is too much for you, you can counteroffer or just walk away. There are plenty of girls who are available and you can find girls who fit your budget with some effort. Or you can just go down to El Centro and pick up the streetwalkers or hit the casas for much less.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044797]But compared to US the prices are still good. If a 55-year-old average-looking guy (Me) wants a hot 25-year-old, I need to have a million-dollar boat in Miami.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And that's the mentality that helps push the prices up because tourists compare the prices in Colombia to the USA. Same thing happened in Sosua and other places where guys didn't mind paying $100 because it was still less than they were paying at the strip clubs in Atlanta.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3044799]As for gringos in Laureles, it is the second most popular neighborhood but it is still nothing compared to the number of gringos in Poblado. Keep in mind that you don't need to stay in the two most popular neighborhoods for gringos. There are other neighborhoods where you can stay and barely see any gringos. If you don't want to see so many gringos, don't stay in Poblado or Laureles.
.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. My issue is that I've lived here for over 8 years and I'm comfortable. Laureles was much different when I first moved here but change is constant. I'm not disillusioned into thinking things will remain the same especially with the spread of information on the internet and social media these days. When I do leave Laureles, it will probably be for another city in Colombia or another country.
Medellin.
This is my most recent trip and it has been awhile since I has reported anything. It may be more useful for newbies than experienced mongers. I do not have any experience at cases or any of the clubs nor do I visit Parque Lleras. I have already discussed the state of immigration at the airport in MDE. So, won't add anything to that here. Overall it was nice visit not the best but not the worse.
I have a "roster" of 10 girls that I see when I am in Medellin. I have been coming for 3 years now. Some of them change their numbers or their phones get stolen so it's difficult to have a lasting connection with some especially the girls in El Centro. They are the most transient. Every time I go there I see a different girl. That is you don't normally see the same faces. I primarily see girls from Tinder, Seeking and Instagram with a few from El Centro.
The range of pay for me at my place is 200-500 mil. It's 100% GFE or sin comdon. I negotiate everything upfront usually one week in advance of arriving. Many girls I approach will not do this so I move on from them. I try to make the experience as pleasurable as possible. I have snacks, candy and sodas. I don't use alcohol and don't go out for dinner.
My preference is Tinder because it's easier to converse with the girls. I use a translator and ask pretty much the same questions such as; are you interested in mutual benefits and do you have What's App? I know there is a concern about whether the girl is a scammer or if the photos match. I haven't had problems in this area. In most instances the girls are better looking in person. However, I do try to get secondary photos without paying by letting them know I am a frequent visitor. If they have an Instagram it's even better. I had one on this tris trip that I will talk about. I forgot to say that I try to avoid "working girls. " I know that sounds silly here but anyone who asks questions like "how long do you want"? When I state in response that I don't want toda la noche or several hours. If they are persistent with that question I move on. I don't like that term "service" it drives me nuts. That's okay for cars and such but not for sexo.
I packed some things like Dude Wipes and Manscaped shaver for my huts and product call "balls preserver. " The girls really like that I am clean down there. I stay at few different places and all but one has security so I "grease" them with a few extra pesos. If the girls know that you security even though it really isn't it keeps them honest.
Day 1.
Jess Tinder 27 yrs.
It's my 3rd time seeing Jess. Very light complexion 5' has purple hair pierced nose and various tats. She works Thursday-Sunday at a nightclub. I pay her 300 k cop. Jess has a nice meaty pussy that is wet. I like seeing her on my first visit because that's when I am most horney. She lets me take photos and videos of her. Recently, before my visits she has been vocal about wanting to fuck. I know it's about the money but she is okay with staying for as long as I want. I was so tired from the trip after I was sliding in her wet pussy I pulled out and was laying on the king size bed she moved down to waist and couldn't hold it it in. She don't suck my dick bur slurped my cum. I could hear and see her it felt so good. After a short break I inside of her and pulled out and came all over her.
She says cip is available but I don't like to do that with multiple shots. I don't like to be sloshing my dick in a cum filled pussy. I thought I could get in a third but no mas leche. She was getting comfortable so I let her hang out awhile. She used the other shower and I got an Uber when she was done. I always use Uber because I like to know when they are arriving. I was using the RO cherry tablets that are like cialos and viagra combined. It lasts for 18 hours and and I also use wipes to keep me from cumin to fast. Sometimes it works and sometimes not.
It was late and I was tired. I did not go to Lleras and went to bed instead.
Day 2.
I went to El Centro on this day -Thursday. It's pretty much the same except I did not see any police there. A few girls I recognized from previous visits but there are always new girls here. I prefer to come here over Lleras. Even though that most of the girls in Lleras are better looking. You don't see too many ugly girls there like you in El Centro. Having said that the hottest girls you will find are in El Centro in my opinion and at a fraction of the cost of Lleras. There not not many but some of girls here in broad daylight are not wearing panties under their skirts. There was a Vennie wearing a short denim skirt about 20 with light complexion and no Tatts. She was thin but not really skinny and of course not wearing panties. I wanted to fuck her but some local grabbed her and I didn't want to do seconds.
On this day I wasn't sure which girl I wanted to see. I don't know how this happens but some girls who I don't plan to see that are on my What's app know that I am there or it's coincidental that they reach out to me to ask when I will be back. I make decisions ab9 ut how I feel about certain girl it depends on what my mood is and their personalities. I don't like when people are pushy even though I really want to fuck them. I was still tired on this day and some of the girls were acting flakey.
I get tested when I return home from a trip to Medellin. It's been a few months since I have last been there so I did not see a need to do more testing. The Seeking girls here want $600 or $1000 and I and will not pay that. Moreover, Seeking is raising their prices again. Now they want $150 a month for full access to their site. I have it set where I can see people viewing my profile but I don't get charged automatically. I only go there when I am really looking. Otherwise, it's not worth it anymore.
I digress. There are some girls who insist on testing and then when you provide it they say it's not recent enough. I am not paying for tests when I am not doing anything. I already used my arm for other unrelated testing. So, I found a site that charges $25 for a fake test. You enter information and they send it to your email. I print it out in color and it looks legit.
This girl was insisting on a newer test but I hadn't seen anyone since my last visit Enough about that I did not see anyone on this day.
Day 3.
Laura Tinder 25 yrs.
This was my first with Laura. Obviously, not the same Laura I have seen in the past. She looked liked her pictures but there was no chemistry. I had talked to her before I arrived but not as much as usually do. She has one kid. I did not take any photos of Laura. I did her her fast and sent her away. 300 k cop this was for Friday.
I went to El Centro earlier in the day and wanted to pull the trigger on few girls there. I don't have many shots available to me on given day so it was a waste. The problem I mostly have is with scheduling. I don't like meeting during day nor do I like meeting too late.
DAY 4.
Yoli Tinder / Instagram 18 yrs.
This is a new girl that I found on Tinder and she gave me her Instagram. I was guarded about this one because she wanted 600 k crop and recent tests. I told her my test was a few months and that I was inactive. I get that people want more recent but I didn't feel like doing another one. The money she wanted was also an issue. Her photos are Instagram and Tinder looked good she wears the outfits and makeup for Carnaval type events. She asked if I had preference for a shaved / unshaved pussy. I told her not shave.
We talked some more on Saturday but I didn't think she would show up. But, I received a message that she could come at 7 pm. I told her I would pay 500 k cop not 600. She agreed and came over that evening. She's pretty brown complexion but not black. She was must better in person and wore lingerie for and allowed photos but con ropa. I wanted her to relax and didn't have alcohol. She did not want me to cum in her pussy. I assured her that I would not. I went show the papers for the test and she wasn't interested.
We went to the bedroom and I used my pinky vibrator on her. I ate that pussy for almost 30 min. The pussy wasn't hairy (wouldn't matter anyway). But she had a nice triangle and sucking on that pussy until she came. The sheets on bed were light so that pussy juices went through the sheets. I had to get a large towel.
The action started with several positions and it was excellent. Sometimes it's the texture of the pussy that makes a difference for me. It was tight and soft. We were in in reverse cowgirl and I could not hold it anymore and pulled out and shot my load on and over her left shoulder. That was the best pussy I have had Medellin that I can remember. We were watching Netflix and I made her brownie and ice cream.
This worked well and she said said wanted to meet again. She was smiling and in good spirits. That was great pussy and the freshness can't be beat.
Cris- Tinder 25 yrs.
This is a new girl that I talked to on Tinder. I did not think a meeting would take place. The pics on the site weren't sexy. They were taken from the top to down a strange angle. I got her over to WhatsApp I did not feel a connection. She's a black girl about 5' 5" with see cups. More of a plain Jane. Did not have any sexy pics. The appeal of her was she is not a professional. She wasn't interested in meeting right off the bat for sex. I told her maybe we can meet for dinner. I really don't like doing that. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 200 k cop. That answers made me believe that she has not been with a gringo. There had to be a catch. The picks she sent showed her wearing dresses that came down to her knees.
It was a Sunday night and other girls I had thought about seeing flaked on me. I texted Cris and she came over that night. I had lingerie for her to change in and when she came out she had sexy legs and nice. Bid nipples and areoles. I ate her clean shaven pussy for awhile then I got the pinky vibrator. . We switched positions and I got my shoe polished. She was sucking my dick and my guts it was awesome. I had my phones and taped her while she was sucking me off. We did several positions until I nutted in cowgirl. Position I felt sensitive and had tops her off of me.
For 200 k cop it was an outstanding deal. She had a hot body that fooled me. How many times have you met a girl and not what their body looks like when you hook up? When they are hot t's the best feeling. I had her com over on Tuesday and the experience was pretty much the same. The only part I didn't like was that she comes over after midnight and that's late for me.
Monday -.
Karol- 24 Seeking / Instagram.
I have been meeting with Karol for over 2 years. She's a 5'2" brunette who is slim with a nice creamy complexion. She has some gringo guy who flies her up to Cartagena when he is there. I see the vids that she posts. It makes me want to fuck her. I am just being frank. She wear these shoelace bikinis and she looks better in person. She now allows me to take vids of her face. I pay her 400 k cop and says now we can have longer visits. I don't do Guatape or Cartagena but the gesture is appreciated. She has a younger sister who has a darker complexion that I would love to nail.
I did not bring enough meds with me so I did not last long. She has a nice wet oussy (I've said this before about others) but something different about Karol. She makes me cum so fast. I will catch her on a future visit when I am better prepared.
Wednesday.
Vanessa Tinder 22 YRS.
I like to thoroughly clean my Airbnb the night before I depart. I invited Vanesa over on my final night. I did not have any meds so I did not expect to do much other than clean. I have seen Vanesa before a Vennie with a light complexion who is 5'9" with a few tats and a brunette with short hair.
I like them in all shapes and sizes. I would not characterize Vannesa as a bow but she tall like a volleyball player. She's gay and as such not much experience with men. She dresses like a teenage boy but when the clothes come off she nice 36 DD's. She really came to get the place right.
The girls like to use the shower and I put some shampoo and fragrant soap gels that they like. I went to shower and and saw her naked. I was horney so we went to the bedroom after she dried off. She doesn't know how to fuck. Has tight pink pussy that is soft. I got my dick suck and she rubbed my cock against her pussy. I pulled out my phone to record and she sucked me until I came in her mouth.
That was my last visit. A few girls wanted to get something in on the day Incas leaving. I don't like to do that. I have to get a new driver. The guy I normally use sends his cousin when I need ride but this time he did not shown. I had to get an Uber and that cost me 185 k cop which is a far cry from 110 k cop that I used to paying.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044655]Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). Granted, the girls are hot.[/QUOTE]Yeah they coordinate prices. They used to ask 300 $ firm but guess price has gone down since they didn't find takers.
Most are full of make up and tricks to look better in the club and you might regret it once the clothes come off and there is some lighting on them.
Hi fellas, I'm coming down to Medellin with a buddy for a week. We're staying at Nutibara and hitting Botero / centro for day and evening. I'm wondering if there are any clubs or bars within walking distance to hang for the nights? Usually, we'd be in Sosua and hang at Rumbas for the night after hitting the strip. I'm curious if there's something like that in Medellin. Only place I'm seeing that comes up on Maps is Playmates. Been to Bogota and Carty, but first time in Meddy. Any club suggestions? Thanks.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3044799]The US dollar has been depreciating for the past year against most foreign currencies so for Americans, even if the price in pesos remains the same, it will cost you more. One year ago, it was 4400 pesos to the dollar. Now it is 3715 pesos to the dollar.
[/QUOTE]There was also a significant increase in the minimum wage recently. Not sure when it takes effect, but that may also affect prices for food and some other things.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044836]Exactly. And that's the mentality that helps push the prices up because tourists compare the prices in Colombia to the USA. Same thing happened in Sosua and other places where guys didn't mind paying $100 because it was still less than they were paying at the strip clubs in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]Many restaurants are charging service fee and tip to the bill, not the same with locals.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044914]There was also a significant increase in the minimum wage recently. Not sure when it takes effect, but that may also affect prices for food and some other things.[/QUOTE]Starting in 2026, the minimum monthly salary will be 2,000,000 pesos or $530 US. That is a 24% increase. How it will affect prices is unknown but it is unlikely to go down.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;3044909]Hi fellas, I'm coming down to Medellin with a buddy for a week. We're staying at Nutibara and hitting Botero / centro for day and evening. I'm wondering if there are any clubs or bars within walking distance to hang for the nights? Usually, we'd be in Sosua and hang at Rumbas for the night after hitting the strip. I'm curious if there's something like that in Medellin. Only place I'm seeing that comes up on Maps is Playmates. Been to Bogota and Carty, but first time in Meddy. Any club suggestions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are two bars with chicas / rooms just a few steps away. Walk out the hotel front door to the right and cross the street. Just a few more steps on the same street and you'll see Bar Grille Nueva or some name like that. There will be a guy at the door encouraging you to enter. Down the stairs and you're in there. Cell signal doesn't work very well underground there and it's loud so download the offline version of Google Translate if your Spanish skills are not real good. The second bar is Conejitas. When you exit the first bar turn right and go down to the corner. Can't miss their big sign and again a guy will be in front of the door encouraging you to go downstairs. There is a third club, Barra Ejecutiva, walking two or three blocks the opposite direction when you exit Hotel Nutibara same side of the street. Beers and drinks are more pricey here. Enjoy!
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3044655]Are the girls in a union or something at Gusto? Everyone wants $250 USD (1 M). Granted, the girls are hot.[/QUOTE]I was getting quoted USD250-300 or its peso equivalent at Gusto. I had a beer and left.
FYI: You'd have better luck at finding 8-9's over at la Isla for less. If I'd pay that much, I'd prefer la Isla.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3044943]There are two bars with chicas / rooms just a few steps away. Walk out the hotel front door to the right and cross the street. Just a few more steps on the same street and you'll see Bar Grille Nueva or some name like that. There will be a guy at the door encouraging you to enter. Down the stairs and you're in there. Cell signal doesn't work very well underground there and it's loud so download the offline version of Google Translate if your Spanish skills are not real good. The second bar is Conejitas. When you exit the first bar turn right and go down to the corner. Can't miss their big sign and again a guy will be in front of the door encouraging you to go downstairs. There is a third club, Barra Ejecutiva, walking two or three blocks the opposite direction when you exit Hotel Nutibara same side of the street. Beers and drinks are more pricey here. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Thanks, bud. Good info.
I been on seeking looking for new talent. I explain what I want to this one girl. She is very upset becauase she doesn't want anyone that is bb. I stated out everything is protocall with test etc. She is upset and then messages me that she is going to go to a group and tell others about me etc etc. I tell her I have no control over her actions but that I'm an adult and being discreet. Next day she tells me more terrible things and then about a minute later I get a message from other other girl I was talking to from seeking that I need to delete her pics and profile etc.
Over a decade I haven't had any problems iwth providers but this one seems to have it out and is airing me out. Anyone ever have experince with this? Is there a forum like we have or is it some other closed group where they trade stories etc?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3045015]I been on seeking looking for new talent. I explain what I want to this one girl. She is very upset becauase she doesn't want anyone that is bb. I stated out everything is protocall with test etc. She is upset and then messages me that she is going to go to a group and tell others about me etc etc. I tell her I have no control over her actions but that I'm an adult and being discreet. Next day she tells me more terrible things and then about a minute later I get a message from other other girl I was talking to from seeking that I need to delete her pics and profile etc.
Over a decade I haven't had any problems iwth providers but this one seems to have it out and is airing me out. Anyone ever have experince with this? Is there a forum like we have or is it some other closed group where they trade stories etc?[/QUOTE]I've had this happen to me while in Colombia. They use it as an extortion tactic by threatening to post all over social media my photo that I am in Colombia for working girls and unless I pay them some ransom money they will continue to post online. I sent them a better photo of myself and told them to have fun. I am a single man and have zero shame in the game. Nothing else ever came of it. They did text me from many different numbers with most being from Colombia but also some from Venezuela and DR.
[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3044964]I was getting quoted USD250-300 or its peso equivalent at Gusto. I had a beer and left.
FYI: You'd have better luck at finding 8-9's over at la Isla for less. If I'd pay that much, I'd prefer la Isla.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]When you ask a girl how much and she gives you a high price, that is just an opening bid. You don't have to just walk away. You can offer what you want to pay and then negotiate a price that is more acceptable to you that the girl is willing to take. It is just a game. The more the girl has invested in you by chatting with you, the more she might be willing to accept a lower price. You can also negotiate what you would want the girl to do and how long you want her to stay. Opening bid is not the final price and it might be much lower than that. Or you can be the first to offer a price and She can negotiate up from that.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3044935]Starting in 2026, the minimum monthly salary will be 2,000,000 pesos or $530 US. That is a 24% increase. How it will affect prices is unknown but it is unlikely to go down.[/QUOTE]Pricing is going to be more closely tied to the economy and economic desperation than to minimum wage. If the economy continues to grow, prices will increase. If the economy suffers due to inflation and more people find themselves out of work then you are more likely to see prices hold or drop. So it's really a wait and see.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;3045032]I've had this happen to me while in Colombia. They use it as an extortion tactic by threatening to post all over social media my photo that I am in Colombia for working girls and unless I pay them some ransom money they will continue to post online. I sent them a better photo of myself and told them to have fun. I am a single man and have zero shame in the game. Nothing else ever came of it. They did text me from many different numbers with most being from Colombia but also some from Venezuela and DR.[/QUOTE]Yikes!
Yeah I didn't get extorted more so as I know I had my photo / number put into a group somewheee.
I imagine after a bit of time.
It will get lost in the sauce but still I'the love to know where exactly.
It's being posted. Like a private tele or WhatsApp.
Group or is there some forum out there we don't know about.
I also didn't let it scare me but I was just surprised this is a new thing I have to be aware of.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3045096]Yikes!
Yeah I didn't get extorted more so as I know I had my photo / number put into a group somewheee.
I imagine after a bit of time.
It will get lost in the sauce but still I'the love to know where exactly.
It's being posted. Like a private tele or WhatsApp.
Group or is there some forum out there we don't know about.
I also didn't let it scare me but I was just surprised this is a new thing I have to be aware of.[/QUOTE]You should message seeking ASAP because what this girl is doing is extortion and is 100% against seeking rules. If this info gets out SDs will not believe in seeking. This business model for SA is too lucrative to let go, I'm sure they will help you out in some way.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044793]Good point. We're getting screwed all the way around. Flights are also increasingly more expensive.[/QUOTE]Add in the new 23% increase in minimum wage and everything will go up by 30% or more because businesses aren't going to absorb that and it also gives them an excuse to charge more than the increase because generally Colombian business people are a greedy lot. Taxi, metro, and bus fares went up today also. It definitely will ding my wallet but I'm not going anywhere, Colombia is my home.
Transport fares go up every year on January 1. The minimum wage increase is a tempest in a teapot. Minimum wage earners here are typically up to their eyeballs in debt at interest rates way beyond what anyone can imagine in North America. Gringos aren't going to notice much of it. The airport bus is 20,000 now, up from 17,000 for example. That's not going to break anyone's budget who can afford an airline ticket.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3045290]Add in the new 23% increase in minimum wage and everything will go up by 30% or more because businesses aren't going to absorb that and it also gives them an excuse to charge more than the increase because generally Colombian business people are a greedy lot. Taxi, metro, and bus fares went up today also. It definitely will ding my wallet but I'm not going anywhere, Colombia is my home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3045067]When you ask a girl how much and she gives you a high price, that is just an opening bid. You don't have to just walk away. You can offer what you want to pay and then negotiate a price that is more acceptable to you that the girl is willing to take. It is just a game. The more the girl has invested in you by chatting with you, the more she might be willing to accept a lower price. You can also negotiate what you would want the girl to do and how long you want her to stay. Opening bid is not the final price and it might be much lower than that. Or you can be the first to offer a price and She can negotiate up from that.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Historically in these situations I've offered half and settled on slightly over that. It still may be too much in this case, but then I also ask not to be rushed and for more time.
I got an Air BNB in the Calasanz neighborhood for my upcoming trip. Does anyone have any recommendations in that area? I've been to Energy before, and I suppose that's in walking distance. Just curious if anyone knew of anything good close by. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Alwayshard45;3045032]I've had this happen to me while in Colombia. They use it as an extortion tactic by threatening to post all over social media my photo that I am in Colombia for working girls and unless I pay them some ransom money they will continue to post online. I sent them a better photo of myself and told them to have fun. I am a single man and have zero shame in the game. Nothing else ever came of it. They did text me from many different numbers with most being from Colombia but also some from Venezuela and DR.[/QUOTE]Mf on Bumble trying to scam me right now. Who says Hello, then immediately asks for a nekkit picture and is really adamant about it? Then I tell them I know they are a scammer and they want to play stupid.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3045347]I got an Air BNB in the Calasanz neighborhood for my upcoming trip. Does anyone have any recommendations in that area? I've been to Energy before, and I suppose that's in walking distance. Just curious if anyone knew of anything good close by. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I lived in Calasanz for 4 months last year, I never saw or heard of anything there. Great place to live though, I loved it there and will be moving back there in October.
It would be a long walk. You can get a quick and inexpensive uber or didi.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3045347]I got an Air BNB in the Calasanz neighborhood for my upcoming trip. Does anyone have any recommendations in that area? I've been to Energy before, and I suppose that's in walking distance. Just curious if anyone knew of anything good close by. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Unable to use Airbnb. Any other apps good for Medellin. Is San peters still a good spot in Laureles. They didn't allow threesomes when I was there. Options for apartment or chica friendly hotel rentals needed. 12 day trip.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3045525]Unable to use Airbnb. Any other apps good for Medellin. Is San peters still a good spot in Laureles. They didn't allow threesomes when I was there. Options for apartment or chica friendly hotel rentals needed. 12 day trip.[/QUOTE]One user posted that he uses [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. You may get more responses if you posted the question in the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments section.
[URL]Booking.com[/URL] or expedia are options. Many Airbnb properties also list there. I think you can also set up a new Airbnb profile if you have a different credit card to use.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3045525]Unable to use Airbnb. Any other apps good for Medellin. Is San peters still a good spot in Laureles. They didn't allow threesomes when I was there. Options for apartment or chica friendly hotel rentals needed. 12 day trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;3045525]Unable to use Airbnb. Any other apps good for Medellin. Is San peters still a good spot in Laureles. They didn't allow threesomes when I was there. Options for apartment or chica friendly hotel rentals needed. 12 day trip.[/QUOTE]I stay at San Peter regularly because I like the location and I like that they take the girls cedulas and don't return them until I tell them all is good, the girls know this so any girl that is planning to rob or drug you isn't going to accept a date if you are staying there. The negative part of San Peter is the noise from the nearby discos, bring earplugs.
Is the same guy managing the place. I had a direct number but its been 4 years since then. Not sure, name is Joe.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3045618]I stay at San Peter regularly because I like the location and I like that they take the girls cedulas and don't return them until I tell them all is good, the girls know this so any girl that is planning to rob or drug you isn't going to accept a date if you are staying there. The negative part of San Peter is the noise from the nearby discos, bring earplugs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045418]Mf on Bumble trying to scam me right now. Who says Hello, then immediately asks for a nekkit picture and is really adamant about it? Then I tell them I know they are a scammer and they want to play stupid.[/QUOTE]She may still be a scammer and of course it is not a good idea to send selfies to strangers but she did not ask for a naked picture. In that conversation, she just asked for a selfie. 'theéjame verte todo un selfie' does not mean naked selfie. Am I wrong?
Anyway, it is always a good idea to listen to your inner scammer alert, radar, and it does not have to have a rational reason. Listening to your gut is the way to go. I know of a married friend who thought a video call would be safer, but they recorded the video call and threatened him later. Nothing bad came out of it for him, but it is a nuisance.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3045634]She may still be a scammer and of course it is not a good idea to send selfies to strangers but she did not ask for a naked picture. In that conversation, she just asked for a selfie. 'thejame verte todo un selfie' does not mean naked selfie. Am I wrong?
Anyway, it is always a good idea to listen to your inner scammer alert, radar, and it does not have to have a rational reason. Listening to your gut is the way to go. I know of a married friend who thought a video call would be safer, but they recorded the video call and threatened him later. Nothing bad came out of it for him, but it is a nuisance.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are wrong. When they first asked for the picture I sent a normal one. Then they said no and sent a nekkit one of themselves (or whoever) as an example of the kind they wanted saying let me see all of you.
Rising political tensions between Washington and Bogotá are beginning to ripple into the travel sphere, placing American visitors and travelers under increased scrutiny as security agencies reassess regional risk.
The public spat between former USA President DT and Colombian President GP, combined with heightened alertness following successful American operation in Caracas, has sharpened intelligence and threat assessments across northern South America. Colombia, a key USA Ally but also a country sensitive to sovereignty and regional stability, has emerged as a focal point.
Security sources say American travelers to Colombia are now more likely to be monitored through intelligence-led risk profiling, with immigration officials relying on expanded threat assessments rather than routine checks alone. While no official travel restrictions have been announced, USA Passport holders may encounter longer questioning at airports, closer review of travel histories, and additional verification tied to purpose of visit.
The impact is already being felt in the aviation sector. Several international carriers are avoiding Venezuelan airspace, complicating flight planning and reinforcing a broader atmosphere of caution. These reroutings, while not Colombia-specific, underscore the regional unease shaping current security decisions.
Tourism operators in Colombia are advising American visitors to prepare for delays and to remain aware of the evolving diplomatic climate. Industry representatives stress that Colombia remains open to tourism, but acknowledge that the deteriorating tone in USA –regional relations has spilled over into more assertive border and intelligence practices.
Analysts note that the situation reflects less a direct threat to travelers and more a recalibration of security posture. Still, for Americans heading to Colombia, the stakes have changed: travel now takes place against a backdrop of closer monitoring, elevated political sensitivity, and a region on alert.
I always offer food and drink before sessions at my place. I don't like dealing with that sort of thing once a session begins. Sometimes guests will decide they are hungry later. When that happens I respond honestly that I will be going out or going to bed when we are done so I won't be re-opening the kitchen. Most of the providers I've known don't routinely think ahead about whether they might get hungry or really anything that isn't happening at that moment.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3044614]ALWAYS have snacks. They love to pull this time up nonense. I once had a chick who I would bone come over. She ask for wings as soon as she arrived. I was like fine we will wait for food. Then while waiting she attacks me and drains my cock soo fast that she finished before the Rappi could come. The wings arrive and she goes to the bathroom freshesns up, grabs the bag, calls her own uber and fucking bounces!!
Fucking cunts, always have food and snacks ready, even have chicken nuggets and fries you can throw in the airfryer so they don't do that bullshit of dine and dash.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;3045815]The public spat between former USA President DT and Colombian President GP, [/QUOTE]Former President DT? Sounds like this is old and outdated information.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;3045815]Rising political tensions between Washington and Bogot ...[/QUOTE]I think this article should be in "General Information".
Lots of talent out and about Saturday, Monday and Tuesday before Christmas. Found out about GLOW right in parque Lleras reminds me exactly of dolce vita from
Cartagena . Narrow bar walking up and down the lineup of chicas trying to get your attention. Miami boys with sagging pants doing shots of don julio and waitresses with the sparklers etc. Fresh talent in the club several girls I had never seen. Honestly lineups at Fase Dos and La Isla I recognize so many girls now and have already banged 20 of the ones I liked there. Best part is when you need a refresher you step out the door right into the park scene to check out what’s on the menu out there. Was no cover free to go in and out. Took a blonde hottie out for the standard 400mil pesos short time same as the park couple girls wanted 5OOmil pesos and one hot blonde was 600mil pesos. Honestly the refreshing scenery revived Medellín for me. And as always a shout to my hooters girls love them and my favorite place for a couple beers during the day or at night.
If you like taller girls I recommend Fase Dos over La Isla and it’s not as non stop tiring with ugly old ladies constantly trying to sit on your lap for 2 mil bills.
Heiss Hotel was chica friendly at a great price. It said one girl per day but they let me take one in at 6 and 10pm after our dinner then another girl at 3am from glow lol.
[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3044964]I was getting quoted USD250-300 or its peso equivalent at Gusto. I had a beer and left.
FYI: You'd have better luck at finding 8-9's over at la Isla for less. If I'd pay that much, I'd prefer la Isla.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I was in gusto on new years that place was full of trannys! Skip gusto and try glow right in illeras it's dolce vita reincarnated.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;3046288]Lots of talent out and about Saturday, Monday and Tuesday before Christmas. Found out about GLOW right in parque Lleras reminds me exactly of dolce vita from
Cartagena . Narrow bar walking up and down the lineup of chicas trying to get your attention. Miami boys with sagging pants doing shots of don julio and waitresses with the sparklers etc. Fresh talent in the club several girls I had never seen. Honestly lineups at Fase Dos and La Isla I recognize so many girls now and have already banged 20 of the ones I liked there. Best part is when you need a refresher you step out the door right into the park scene to check out whats on the menu out there. Was no cover free to go in and out. Took a blonde hottie out for the standard 400mil pesos short time same as the park couple girls wanted 5OOmil pesos and one hot blonde was 600mil pesos. Honestly the refreshing scenery revived Medelln for me. And as always a shout to my hooters girls love them and my favorite place for a couple beers during the day or at night.
If you like taller girls I recommend Fase Dos over La Isla and its not as non stop tiring with ugly old ladies constantly trying to sit on your lap for 2 mil bills.
Heiss Hotel was chica friendly at a great price. It said one girl per day but they let me take one in at 6 and 10pm after our dinner then another girl at 3am from glow lol.[/QUOTE]I've been to Glow like 3 times and the one right next to it as well. The beer and the bottle service are very expensive for sure. It is always packed and hard to walk. There are great talent there, but it is too loud that can barely talk. It is good to collect numbers and meet them later LOL.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;3046302]I was in gusto on new years that place was full of trannys! Skip gusto and try glow right in illeras it's dolce vita reincarnated.[/QUOTE]Your joking I might have to take a trip.
There has been a nighttime curfew for minors in Parque Lleras since before the pandemic. Enforcement of it and other laws comes and goes. Because this is an election year the enforcement events are more frequent. Medellin's last mayor is a liberal ally of Gustavo Petro. He staged the same sort made for the media law enforcement events as this one, complete with crowd control barriers and police checks. If Parque Lleras is a big part of your travel plans it makes sense to keep track of these operativos because you wouldn't want to show up here and not have free access to the place. I wouldn't otherwise give it much thought.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3046868]Why doesn't Medelland simply establish a nighttime curfew for minors in entertainment districts like other major cities? There is no need for military theater or harassing tourists and local businesses. A simple ID check would suffice.
But perhaps I'm naive to assume their goal is actually to stop underage prostitution. The government seems more interested in the illusion of enforcement for their base than in a real solution. An effective curfew doesn't generate headlines; a military crackdown does. If the problem were fixed easily, the mayor couldn't claim the credit. Politicians are the same everywhere.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;3046877]They have been monitoring the park for the past few weeks. There has been a camera like system deployed on a truck or vehicle for a couple of weeks now. This major operation is certainly without precedent in the recent past. Constant harassment of chicas and tourists and now this raid. I am thinking we are probably going to say park Lleras was a thing in less than a year.[/QUOTE]I don't go there anymore and those kids hanging around make it worse.
I don't know if the government feels all the creep cam video about showing the chicks in the park looking for customers with guys giving commentary over it for all the guys who would say it's just chicks in the park. You got dudes zooming in on ass it's a bad look. That is one of the reasons the government decided to clear up Sosua.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3046937]I don't know if the government feels all the creep cam video about showing the chicks in the park looking for customers with guys giving commentary over it for all the guys who would say it's just chicks in the park. You got dudes zooming in on ass it's a bad look. That is one of the reasons the government decided to clear up Sosua.[/QUOTE]100 percent. What happens in fight club is supposed to stay in fight club. Ego and the desire to be seen as big man on campus plus guys with no other means of supporting themselves trying to make a buck off of this have brought way too much attention to many places.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;3046877]They have been monitoring the park for the past few weeks. There has been a camera like system deployed on a truck or vehicle for a couple of weeks now. This major operation is certainly without precedent in the recent past. Constant harassment of chicas and tourists and now this raid. I am thinking we are probably going to say park Lleras was a thing in less than a year.[/QUOTE]The club and restaurant owners in Parque Lleras have big time influence and power, this is a temporary thing as it always is.
I'm surprised to see so many people reacting to this like it's the first time it ever happened. When he started to really sink in the polls, the last mayor used to run these events two or more times per month. He even fenced off Lleras and Plaza Botero. It's about as impactful as raising the minimum wage to US $500 per month, which means it has no impact at all.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3047042]The club and restaurant owners in Parque Lleras have big time influence and power, this is a temporary thing as it always is.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know of an ATM in Poblado that still spits 50's? The BancoColombia ATMs have only been giving 100's the last few months. I've even tried asking for only 500 mil and still get 4 cien bills and 5 venties. I'd really like to get some 50's.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3047160]Anyone know of an ATM in Poblado that still spits 50's? The BancoColombia ATMs have only been giving 100's the last few months. I've even tried asking for only 500 mil and still get 4 cien bills and 5 venties. I'd really like to get some 50's.[/QUOTE]The Davivienda ATM's usually dispense a variety, 100, 50, 20, 10. Most of their ATM's are at a branch bank. I have gone into their bank and exchanged the larger bills I received for smaller ones. The last time I used a Servibanca inside a grocery store, I received all 50's. That may have just been how is was that day. The other Servibanca ATM's have only dispensed 100's when I've used them. I think there are several different bank ATM's inside the Curulla store on Poblado Ave.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;3047160]Anyone know of an ATM in Poblado that still spits 50's? The BancoColombia ATMs have only been giving 100's the last few months. I've even tried asking for only 500 mil and still get 4 cien bills and 5 venties. I'd really like to get some 50's.[/QUOTE]Most ATMs work the same way. They have trays for every kind of bill. When fully stocked, they are programmed to distribute a mixture of those bills as the bank may have set it to. But if the ATM is subject to a lot of small withdrawals that require a lot of smaller bills, then towards the end of its stock, it will start issuing just the bigger bills for bigger withdrawals because it's trying to make up for the lack of smaller bills. I've had the same ATM give me an even balance of bills and on a different day give me everything in 100's.
More like cleaning up the area. There is no need to have the area like this as it only invites criminal activity.
Plenty of ways to find women in Medellin, this should not be one of them.
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3047097]It's more about stopping more Venezuelan hookers than anything else. Every-time Venezuela has a political upheaval they militarize the border more so than usual and crack down on the girls on the street. They were walking around in presence in el centro last week as well.
JMDO.[/QUOTE]
Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
Has anyone had similar experiences?
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
Has anyone had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]Why do you bother with "professionals" they will rip you off?
Never pay a deposit. It is a scam request. There are more than enough fair providers who don't pull that crap.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
Has anyone had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.[/QUOTE]It is not common and it is not normal. Most likely a scam, strongly recommended to not do that. Medellin is a in-person place. You are better off going to a local strip club or club and get girls numbers for a follow up. Then you know what they are like in person.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3047342]It is not common and it is not normal. Most likely a scam, strongly recommended to not do that. Medellin is a in-person place. You are better off going to a local strip club or club and get girls numbers for a follow up. Then you know what they are like in person.[/QUOTE]What places do you recommend I visit to find paid girls to bring to my hotel? I prefer long-term girls who can stay at my hotel for several hours or even 24 hours a day.
Can you give me a list of places you recommend where there are many beautiful paid girls I can meet?
By the way, I don't speak Spanish, but I can use Google Translate with the girls.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047418]What places do you recommend I visit to find paid girls to bring to my hotel? I prefer long-term girls who can stay at my hotel for several hours or even 24 hours a day.
Can you give me a list of places you recommend where there are many beautiful paid girls I can meet?
By the way, I don't speak Spanish, but I can use Google Translate with the girls.[/QUOTE]There is a saying I am rather fond of. "You can take a horse to the river, but you can't make him drink. " In the message you are replying to is the answer you seek. Get out, meet girls, get their WhatsApp number, coordinate what you would like for another night. What you seek is within reason, though having a girl over for 24 hours is something I'd only limit to one I already know, trust, and really want to spend 24 hours with.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3047513]There is a saying I am rather fond of. "You can take a horse to the river, but you can't make him drink. " In the message you are replying to is the answer you seek. Get out, meet girls, get their WhatsApp number, coordinate what you would like for another night. What you seek is within reason, though having a girl over for 24 hours is something I'd only limit to one I already know, trust, and really want to spend 24 hours with.[/QUOTE]I think you should go to thailand, its a better place for long long time GFE like you want. With 0 spanish and no knowledge on medellin i doubt you can find a girl for 24 h without throwing a tons of money. For a first trip you should go to place lik la isla club, fase dos and Lutron. And I have no idea about your experience in this activity, but usualy more time only mean more risk to fall in love and less sex. Its probably the 2 worst things who can happen on a solo trip. In most case its less problematic to catch an std then falling in love with a prostitute, as long as its not herpess or hiv.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047418]What places do you recommend I visit to find paid girls to bring to my hotel? I prefer long-term girls who can stay at my hotel for several hours or even 24 hours a day.
Can you give me a list of places you recommend where there are many beautiful paid girls I can meet?
By the way, I don't speak Spanish, but I can use Google Translate with the girls.[/QUOTE]If this is what you're into, Thailand is good but the best place is Philippines IMO.
They're English speaking which men's you'll be able to communicate, it's painfully cheap, the dollar is at all time highs against the peso and the living conditions you'll provide are substantially better than what they're dealing with so it'll be a much more enjoyable time for her.
And the Philippines isn't as over visited as Thailand and Colombia so the girls haven't developed an entitlement. There are many men who have said they stayed with a girl for a few days and all they did was took her shopping for basic toiletries at a corner store and the girl felt like they hit the lotto. Makes for a much more enjoyable experience.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
Has anyone had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]Here it is. [URL]https://colombiaeroticvacations.com/diamond-package[/URL] (prices probably far beyond your budget).
"The girls will stay with you 24 hours a day in your villa. ".
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
[/QUOTE]I trend to agree with other its a scam. If you think about it. You agreed on certain things before hand and when she shows up and says I don't do that or this. What are you going to do? You already paid in a portion and now you either agree or move on. Regardless you will lose your money and no service.
Has anyone been to Luna Lunera recently? I'm interested in some intel, especially for the off peak hours. That was always my favorite time to come through. Thanks in advance.
'FAA warns airlines on Central, South American flights of potential military actions".
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/faa-issues-warnings-airlines-central-south-american-flights-over-potential-2026-01-16/[/URL]
If you are a frequent South American visitor you might just want to keep an eye on this it doesn't look like it's serious now but it might get that way if it intensifies.
[QUOTE=SalvatoreX;3047243]Hi, I've seen some Medellin escort sites. I contacted the girls and messaged them to arrange an appointment, but when we met, they asked me for a deposit. Is this normal? Is it a scam? And the third girl who does this. I haven't been able to schedule an appointment yet. The site is prepagos.
Has anyone had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]Many have already chimed in saying that this is a scam, but I have to say that your message is not clear. You said "but when we met". What does that mean? The girl actually came over and asked you for money before she did anything? Or when you asked for an appointment, they said when the girl comes over, you need to pay first before she does anything? What do you actually mean by but when we met?
[QUOTE=Bucanero;3044364]Earlier this month, I spent 10 days in Medellin. Stayed near Lleras in an AirBnb. Most of the time, I was with girls I met on earlier trips but I did venture out to a few "massage" places. >
Next time, I'll check out more of these spas. There must be dozens of them all over Laureles and Belen.[/QUOTE]Bucanero's reports about massage places motivated me last week to check out some high-end massage places. I used to be a big Massage guy, but in the last several years I haven't been going to the massage places. I'm typically busy with the regulars that I see routinely but last week I decided to switch it up.
As was noted on the previous post, there are a lot more maybe five times the number of massage places than I remember seeing several years ago. The quality has also gone up in my opinion in the past it was not uncommon to see a significant number of single mothers on several of these massage places, but the few I checked out had no single mothers and I found good variety of good looking under 24 girls.
I researched Des Spa in Provenza, Samadhi Spa in Laureles, Samana spa in Belen, Elite spa and Benito Spa in Belen. All of these could be found on Google maps easily. I contacted all of them by WhatsApp and all of them sent me price list and the masseuse PDFs and almost all of them were easy to communicate with them, prompt to respond and to let me know who is working at any given time.
Due to time constraints and logistics I ended up only going to Des and Samadhi.
Des is walking distance to where I live. And the line up what's to my liking. It is located in a residential neighborhood with Apple parking if you want to drive inside the place is clean decent shower facilities, comfortable white bed pleasant room. I went with Camila pretty face, great body and fantastic attitude lovely body to body massage. She did not rush and it was a very relaxing one hour and I left very happy, wanting to come back. I also saw Juliana and Catalina and I could've easily gone with either one of them and I plan to see them next week when I have some time. Professional service and I highly recommend. The girls are prettier in person than in the photographs.
Samadhi spot was also equally professional. I have my own transport so I decided to drive and it started to rain hard. The receptionist was super helpful and incredibly patient with me to help me find a parking spot during an absolute downpour. Prices were slightly less expensive here, place larger and more girls on the offer and Place seemed a bit busier than the Provenza spot. The photos in their catalog are slightly more professional. The girls are definitely pretty, but they look better in the photos than in person which is the opposite at Des. I saw Sara and I did a body to body with her as well. I left happy and I tipped her. As I was waiting and on my way out, I saw a few other girls who I would've been happy to see.
My ideal girl is a Blanca, fit, flaca, natural and sin hijos. I found my type at both places. In both places, the focus is on a decent to good quality massage with release and not on sex.
@Bucanero. Man, I tried to find the Ellas erotic in Belen, but I could not. I happen to be in that part of town on business and I really wanted to go there but despite aggressive searching, I could not locate it and the Spanish site that you mentioned was not easy to navigate. Also, I could not find the Tantra Massage as Google maps showed me three spots and two of them were closed and the other one did not respond. Anyway, thanks again for motivating me to check out massage places.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;3047237]More like cleaning up the area. There is no need to have the area like this as it only invites criminal activity.
Plenty of ways to find women in Medellin, this should not be one of them.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Some people might jump on me for saying this, but I sincerely hope that someday the city of Medellin would ban street hooking and public soliciting in or around public parks. In any city, a public park should be a place where a family should be able to take a stroll in the evening. An overnight raid and a political theater once every three months with hundreds of agents and police is not going to do anything to change the situation.
For those who may not know, the Veracruz church has been the site of street girls for several centuries.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3047933]I totally agree. Some people might jump on me for saying this, but I sincerely hope that someday the city of Medellin would ban street hooking and public soliciting in or around public parks. In any city, a public park should be a place where a family should be able to take a stroll in the evening. An overnight raid and a political theater once every three months with hundreds of agents and police is not going to do anything to change the situation.[/QUOTE]
It's good you found girls of your liking. You touched on the subject of prices without actually quoting them. Would you be willing to share that information?
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3047929]Bucanero's reports about massage places motivated me last week to check out some high-end massage places. I used to be a big Massage guy, but in the last several years I haven't been going to the massage places. I'm typically busy with the regulars that I see routinely but last week I decided to switch it up.
As was noted on the previous post, there are a lot more maybe five times the number of massage places than I remember seeing several years ago. The quality has also gone up in my opinion in the past it was not uncommon to see a significant number of single mothers on several of these massage places, but the few I checked out had no single mothers and I found good variety of good looking under 24 girls.
I researched Des Spa in Provenza, Samadhi Spa in Laureles, Samana spa in Belen, Elite spa and Benito Spa in Belen. All of these could be found on Google maps easily. I contacted all of them by WhatsApp and all of them sent me price list and the masseuse PDFs and almost all of them were easy to communicate with them, prompt to respond and to let me know who is working at any given time.
Due to time constraints and logistics I ended up only going to Des and Samadhi.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047965]It's good you found girls of your liking. You touched on the subject of prices without actually quoting them. Would you be willing to share that information?[/QUOTE]Sure. I will PM you what I paid as I don't like to get into price discussions on the forum. Des WP is 310-465-4811 and 321-516-2747.
Samadhi is 314-798-0635.
They will send you a price and masseuse catalog on WhatsApp.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047965]It's good you found girls of your liking. You touched on the subject of prices without actually quoting them. Would you be willing to share that information?[/QUOTE]I tried to send you a private message, but it said your inbox is full so here it is.
The base price for a one hour massage with panties on at Des in Provenza is 220,000 pesos and 300 for nude body body (Higher quality offering, no travel time / Uber etc for those in or around Provenza).
At Samadhi it is 200 for nude. This is a no-brainer if you're in Laureles and into massage.
Forgive me for being crude. I'm indifferent about massage. Do I have to negotiate further to fuck the girls?
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048095]I tried to send you a private message, but it said your inbox is full so here it is.
The base price for a one hour massage with panties on at Des in Provenza is 220,000 pesos and 300 for nude body body (Higher quality offering, no travel time / Uber etc for those in or around Provenza).
At Samadhi it is 200 for nude. This is a no-brainer if you're in Laureles and into massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048095]I tried to send you a private message, but it said your inbox is full so here it is.
The base price for a one hour massage with panties on at Des in Provenza is 220,000 pesos and 300 for nude body body (Higher quality offering, no travel time / Uber etc for those in or around Provenza).
At Samadhi it is 200 for nude. This is a no-brainer if you're in Laureles and into massage.[/QUOTE]People are travelling to medellin to fuc latina for cheap then they are paying 300 k for a massage. After that they wonder why girls will ask a millions for sex in less then 10 years.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047964]For those who may not know, the Veracruz church has been the site of street girls for several centuries.[/QUOTE]Veracruz / Botero is my favorite chill spot in the entire world and I'm very well traveled. I love the cultural mix of businessman, homeless, working class and of course the hookers.
300 K with no panties, 200 k+ with panties, I don't think I understand any of of it.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3048128]People are travelling to medellin to fuc latina for cheap then they are paying 300 k for a massage. After that they wonder why girls will ask a millions for sex in less then 10 years.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3048108]Forgive me for being crude. I'm indifferent about massage. Do I have to negotiate further to fuck the girls?[/QUOTE]If you are indifferent about massage, these are not the places for you. I believe sex is not offered. It says on the site and I did not try. Years ago, I remember Energy near Estadio. It may still be around. They call themselves a massage place, but it was primarily for sex. These places I reported on are not primary about sex.
I get plenty of sex in the comfort of my hotel room following a nice date and not limited to an hour. So I am not looking for that.
This is a different type of experience and it is not for everyone. There are many places around and seem to be doing ok so there must more people like me.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3048128]People are travelling to medellin to fuc latina for cheap then they are paying 300 k for a massage. After that they wonder why girls will ask a millions for sex in less then 10 years.[/QUOTE]This is why I don't post prices in my reports. Someone always turns it into a discussion about money and not about quality, service or the experience. It is like when someone posted a review about a restaurant, and imagine the discussion getting hijacked and ends up being about the cost of the bill and not about the quality of the food, ambience, or the service. That would be a shame. Don't you agree?
I don't run or operate these businesses. I'm just a customer like everybody else here. I just don't mind paying as I see a value in it. People that don't see a value in it don't have to partake. If someone wants to travel to Medellin for cheap sex, I'm sure plenty of that is available.
What people should be happy to know about Medellin are the variety of options available and that is a good thing. This forum is about sharing information and not about criticizing one's voluntary choices.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048249]This is why I don't post prices in my reports. Someone always turns it into a discussion about money and not about quality, service or the experience. It is like when someone posted a review about a restaurant, and imagine the discussion getting hijacked and ends up being about the cost of the bill and not about the quality of the food, ambience, or the service. That would be a shame. Don't you agree?
I don't run or operate these businesses. I'm just a customer like everybody else here. I just don't mind paying as I see a value in it. People that don't see a value in it don't have to partake. If someone wants to travel to Medellin for cheap sex, I'm sure plenty of that is available.
What people should be happy to know about Medellin are the variety of options available and that is a good thing. This forum is about sharing information and not about criticizing one's voluntary choices.[/QUOTE]There always seems to be guys criticizing other guys for how much money they pay girls been calling them simps or idiots. That is one reason why I no longer mention prices anymore. I don't let others dictate how much I spend because it's my money and I'll spend it the way that I would regardless of what others think.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048249]This is why I don't post prices in my reports. Someone always turns it into a discussion about money and not about quality, service or the experience. It is like when someone posted a review about a restaurant, and imagine the discussion getting hijacked and ends up being about the cost of the bill and not about the quality of the food, ambience, or the service. That would be a shame. Don't you agree?
I don't run or operate these businesses. I'm just a customer like everybody else here. I just don't mind paying as I see a value in it. People that don't see a value in it don't have to partake. If someone wants to travel to Medellin for cheap sex, I'm sure plenty of that is available.
What people should be happy to know about Medellin are the variety of options available and that is a good thing. This forum is about sharing information and not about criticizing one's voluntary choices.[/QUOTE]Its important to mention it, its very toxic for the local and regular visitor when foreign people are coming and buying every thing at prices who are x2, x3,x4 and so on. From usa perspective its not a problem, but I think it is totally legitimate to remind that the things you get for 300 000 worth in fact 50 000 to 100 000 into the best case scenario. And as a person who like to travel a lot I am always happy when someone post something like 'hey! Don't go to X! Its a tourist trap! You can get the sames girls at Y for 1/4 of the price asked by X!' this is also a reason of board like this are. For 300 000 in medellin you can get a fuc with a girls a loutron so its dumb to pay so much for a massage. Its your choice but you are only contributing to destroyone of the reason reason why people love to travel to medellin instead of going into shit holw like DR and other place ruined by people who are overpaying for services.
Thank you for getting back to me. I should explain myself. The reason I asked about sex is it is the topic of this web site. If I wanted to compare notes about other stuff going on in those spots I would look them up on tripadvisor. Thanks again for responding and enjoy your visits.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048246]If you are indifferent about massage, these are not the places for you. I believe sex is not offered. It says on the site and I did not try. Years ago, I remember Energy near Estadio. It may still be around. They call themselves a massage place, but it was primarily for sex. These places I reported on are not primary about sex.
I get plenty of sex in the comfort of my hotel room following a nice date and not limited to an hour. So I am not looking for that.
This is a different type of experience and it is not for everyone. There are many places around and seem to be doing ok so there must more people like me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3047929]Bucanero's reports about massage places motivated me last week to check out some high-end massage places. I used to be a big Massage guy, but in the last several years I haven't been going to the massage places. I'm typically busy with the regulars that I see routinely but last week I decided to switch it up.
I researched Des Spa in Provenza, Samadhi Spa in Laureles, Samana spa in Belen, Elite spa and Benito Spa in Belen. All of these could be found on Google maps easily. I contacted all of them by WhatsApp and all of them sent me price list and the masseuse PDFs and almost all of them were easy to communicate with them, prompt to respond and to let me know who is working at any given time.
@Bucanero. Man, I tried to find the Ellas erotic in Belen, but I could not. I happen to be in that part of town on business and I really wanted to go there but despite aggressive searching, I could not locate it and the Spanish site that you mentioned was not easy to navigate. Also, I could not find the Tantra Massage as Google maps showed me three spots and two of them were closed and the other one did not respond. Anyway, thanks again for motivating me to check out massage places.[/QUOTE]On my last trip to Medellin, I tried to focus on Nuru places. I was only able to see 2 nuru places. The first one was strictly nuru with an HJ release. I was disappointed but learn from your mistakes, if she kept her panties on meaning not full service option available. I did try a few times to stick my finger but was shot down.
The next place was not sure or clear. The lady was naked and figured when flipped over, see how things go. First, I was able to finger her without any objection. Since that was successful, I moved to the next step and asked about BBBJ. That worked fine; she was young and had average skills. Now that was another success I moved to next level. Had her get on top and slide around on top of me with teasing me a bit. Figured no time to waste and just stuck it in, and again, no objection. I was very surprised that happened. Flipped her over and finished inside her.
I was very shocked that it happened, and she got up and left the room to clean herself.
I don't remember the place, but I used the website.
[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/antioquia/medellin/buscar-nuru/[/URL]
Good luck in your search.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3048269]There always seems to be guys criticizing other guys for how much money they pay girls been calling them simps or idiots. That is one reason why I no longer mention prices anymore. I don't let others dictate how much I spend because it's my money and I'll spend it the way that I would regardless of what others think.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this. Glad to see a few like minded people on the forum.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3048314]Thank you for getting back to me. I should explain myself. The reason I asked about sex is it is the topic of this web site. If I wanted to compare notes about other stuff going on in those spots I would look them up on tripadvisor. Thanks again for responding and enjoy your visits.[/QUOTE]You are welcome. I rarely come on the forum, but when I do, I try to contribute in a positive way. These are erotic massages so they definitely belong here and not on trip advisor. You are perfectly right to ask about sex. You also said you don't care about massage. I was just letting you that massage is the focus and penetration was not an option. But mutual pleasuring was allowed. Since I used names I did not go into graphic detail but my experience was closer to Butch145's first experience in the post below.
Not really.
It is now comparable to Panama or San Jose Costa Rica and similar much safer Central American places.
Frequent and infrequent mongers alike know this to be true.
Your best chance to enjoy a Colombiana is now outside of Colombia.
Start by looking in your private reserved Arab harems spread throughout the Middle East.
If you have access to one.
Sayonara.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3048314]Thank you for getting back to me. I should explain myself. The reason I asked about sex is it is the topic of this web site. If I wanted to compare notes about other stuff going on in those spots I would look them up on tripadvisor. Thanks again for responding and enjoy your visits.[/QUOTE]Looks, this is Colombia. Once you are in a room alone with a girl, anything can happen between you and the girl and it is legal. So it is up to your negotiating charm. I don't think any place could qualify as 'no sex' unless it is a very official / expensive / spa commercial operation, but even then, I'm sure everything can be negotiated. For example, I've had very good luck with Masajes Mandalay (Laureles). Get to know a girl, 'try her out', get her WhatsApp and then make a good solid contact for future dates. Heck, I took the manager's WhatsApp once and dated her a couple times. Rule of thumb is the pricier Poblado type places may get prettier girls (they gravitate to the higher profit obviously), but you will still find amazing talent elsewhere. Of course everything I say is subjective, and your personal experience may vary. But the beauty of Colombia is the ladies attitude at these places, they are not insulted if you ask for more, and most are open to working something out.
There is a big difference between guys staying here for a while and those visiting for a short time. Guys staying here for a while aren't trying to maximize the number of times that they have sex. They have sex when they feel like having sex and there could be a number of days when they pass on it because they don't feel like it. That is not happening with guys on a short visit. Long term guys also can establish a relationship with girls and for those asking for money, the girls may be willing to accept a lower rate from the long term guys than the short term visitor because the long term guy will be around for a while. So, the price long term guys pay may not be the price that a short term visitor will pay.
This website is a mix of short term and long term guys but the objectives are different.
Now I am actually visiting Medellin for a few months so I can take my time. Most days are just me doing what I usually do at home. I am retired now but I keep busy with some remote work and trading in the market. The biggest different from home is that when I feel like having sex with a young attractive woman, it is easy to arrange. Does Medellin or Colombia work as a long term place to stay? Yes, but you need to start learning Spanish if you don't already speak Spanish. Most of the long term guys speak Spanish at a decent level but I am still at the learning stage. There is a big difference in life in Medellin if you can speak good Spanish. That is not a surprise but it requires time and effort to learn Spanish and most guys don't want to do it.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3048272]Its important to mention it, its very toxic for the local and regular visitor when foreign people are coming and buying every thing at prices who are x2, x3,x4 and so on. From usa perspective its not a problem, but I think it is totally legitimate to remind that the things you get for 300 000 worth in fact 50 000 to 100 000 into the best case scenario. And as a person who like to travel a lot I am always happy when someone post something like 'hey! Don't go to X! Its a tourist trap! You can get the sames girls at Y for 1/4 of the price asked by X!' this is also a reason of board like this are. For 300 000 in medellin you can get a fuc with a girls a loutron so its dumb to pay so much for a massage. Its your choice but you are only contributing to destroyone of the reason reason why people love to travel to medellin instead of going into shit holw like DR and other place ruined by people who are overpaying for services.[/QUOTE]You fail to understand that though it is the foreigners paying these inflated prices for rentals and real estate purchases it is because Colombians are setting these inflated prices. Do you think foreigners are coming to Colombia and asking to pay MORE than the advertised price? The increase in real estate sales and rental prices falls straight on Colombians, not foreigners. Furthermore 90% of rentals and real estate purchases are by Colombians and NOT foreigners so how can it possibly be the fault of foreigners? As far as chica prices go you can get laid for 50.000 pesos in El Centro and 1. 000.000 in Parque Lleras and there are prices everywhere in between so it is up to the foreign monger to decide what he wants to pay, whether he chooses to pay the 1. 000.000 or slum it in El Centro for 50.000 that is his choice. And for fuck's sakes for the thousandth time you guys stop asking these girls "how much" and nicely but firmly tell them how much you pay, act like you know what you're doing and not a clueless tourist even if you are one.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3048408]Not really.
It is now comparable to Panama or San Jose Costa Rica and similar much safer Central American places.
Frequent and infrequent mongers alike know this to be true.
Your best chance to enjoy a Colombiana is now outside of Colombia.
Start by looking in your private reserved Arab harems spread throughout the Middle East.
If you have access to one..[/QUOTE]Not been to Medellin but am planning to go in a month or so. Based on some of the pricing here action seems to start around $100 usd in the parque Lleras area. Of course centro and others will be cheaper but come with some risk.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3048408]Not really.
It is now comparable to Panama or San Jose Costa Rica and similar much safer Central American places.
Frequent and infrequent mongers alike know this to be true.
Your best chance to enjoy a Colombiana is now outside of Colombia.
Start by looking in your private reserved Arab harems spread throughout the Middle East.
If you have access to one.
Sayonara.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that the safety in Medellin is ass. I've never been there, but based on what I've read, seen, and coming to my own conclusions, it basically looks to me that every fuck-able girl you see walking in el Poblado is working with a gang and is walking specifically there to find their next target to drug and rob.
I don't know how true that is, but that's the vibe I'm getting based on everything I know.
In terms of pricing? Well, it doesn't matter what the price is.
If the risk is that you get drugged, robbed, and / or killed, the price could be $1 and it still wouldn't make sense to participate.
So pricing, is really an irrelevant factor in this discussion.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3048428]You fail to understand that though it is the foreigners paying these inflated prices for rentals and real estate purchases it is because Colombians are setting these inflated prices. Do you think foreigners are coming to Colombia and asking to pay MORE than the advertised price? The increase in real estate sales and rental prices falls straight on Colombians, not foreigners. Furthermore 90% of rentals and real estate purchases are by Colombians and NOT foreigners so how can it possibly be the fault of foreigners? As far as chica prices go you can get laid for 50.000 pesos in El Centro and 1. 000.000 in Parque Lleras and there are prices everywhere in between so it is up to the foreign monger to decide what he wants to pay, whether he chooses to pay the 1. 000.000 or slum it in El Centro for 50.000 that is his choice. And for fuck's sakes for the thousandth time you guys stop asking these girls "how much" and nicely but firmly tell them how much you pay, act like you know what you're doing and not a clueless tourist even if you are one.[/QUOTE]Sure, but it's much easier for the locals to blame foreigners.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048433]Not been to Medellin but am planning to go in a month or so. Based on some of the pricing here action seems to start around $100 usd in the parque Lleras area. Of course centro and others will be cheaper but come with some risk.[/QUOTE]You go to a foreign country it's best that you learn to use their currency. If people want to pay extra or whatever that doesn't bother me. To talk dollars in Lleras or anywhere else in Colombia is lazy. Don't assume that Colombians know the value of the dollar.
If you need help there's a conversion calculator on your iPhone if you have one.
[QUOTE=Combo;3048495]Sure, but it's much easier for the locals to blame foreigners.[/QUOTE]In Thailand my buddy got into a car accident. It was clearly the Thai lady's fault. But when the police got there, the lady told the cop that it was my buddy's fault. Why? If the foreigner would not have been there, then there would not have been an accident. If foreigners were not in Colombia, then rent prices would not be going up.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048456]My understanding is that the safety in Medellin is ass. I've never been there, but based on what I've read, seen, and coming to my own conclusions, it basically looks to me that every fuck-able girl you see walking in el Poblado is working with a gang and is walking specifically there to find their next target to drug and rob.
I don't know how true that is, but that's the vibe I'm getting based on everything I know.
In terms of pricing? Well, it doesn't matter what the price is.
If the risk is that you get drugged, robbed, and / or killed, the price could be $1 and it still wouldn't make sense to participate..[/QUOTE]Spoken like a man who has never there. Enough said.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3048517]You go to a foreign country it's best that you learn to use their currency. If people want to pay extra or whatever that doesn't bother me. To talk dollars in Lleras or anywhere else in Colombia is lazy. Don't assume that Colombians know the value of the dollar.
If you need help there's a conversion calculator on your iPhone if you have one.[/QUOTE]100% agree, always use local. I was just talking in US dollars to show relative amount here on the forum. Really reconsidering whether I should go there or not. The whole point of Medellin was it was supposed to be within my budget. For the amounts quoted here, I could go Sao Paulo instead and have a blast.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048414]Looks, this is Colombia. Once you are in a room alone with a girl, anything can happen between you and the girl and it is legal. So it is up to your negotiating charm. I don't think any place could qualify as 'no sex' unless it is a very official / expensive / spa commercial operation, but even then, I'm sure everything can be negotiated. For example, I've had very good luck with Masajes Mandalay (Laureles). Get to know a girl, 'try her out', get her WhatsApp and then make a good solid contact for future dates. Heck, I took the manager's WhatsApp once and dated her a couple times. Rule of thumb is the pricier Poblado type places may get prettier girls (they gravitate to the higher profit obviously), but you will still find amazing talent elsewhere. Of course everything I say is subjective, and your personal experience may vary. But the beauty of Colombia is the ladies attitude at these places, they are not insulted if you ask for more, and most are open to working something out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3048415]There is a big difference between guys staying here for a while and those visiting for a short time. Guys staying here for a while aren't trying to maximize the number of times that they have sex. They have sex when they feel like having sex and there could be a number of days when they pass on it because they don't feel like it. That is not happening with guys on a short visit. Long term guys also can establish a relationship with girls and for those asking for money, the girls may be willing to accept a lower rate from the long term guys than the short term visitor because the long term guy will be around for a while. So, the price long term guys pay may not be the price that a short term visitor will pay.
This website is a mix of short term and long term guys but the objectives are different.
Now I am actually visiting Medellin for a few months so I can take my time. Most days are just me doing what I usually do at home. I am retired now but I keep busy with some remote work and trading in the market. The biggest different from home is that when I feel like having sex with a young attractive woman, it is easy to arrange. Does Medellin or Colombia work as a long term place to stay? Yes, but you need to start learning Spanish if you don't already speak Spanish. Most of the long term guys speak Spanish at a decent level but I am still at the learning stage. There is a big difference in life in Medellin if you can speak good Spanish. That is not a surprise but it requires time and effort to learn Spanish and most guys don't want to do it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3048428]You fail to understand that though it is the foreigners paying these inflated prices for rentals and real estate purchases it is because Colombians are setting these inflated prices. Do you think foreigners are coming to Colombia and asking to pay MORE than the advertised price? The increase in real estate sales and rental prices falls straight on Colombians, not foreigners. Furthermore 90% of rentals and real estate purchases are by Colombians and NOT foreigners so how can it possibly be the fault of foreigners? As far as chica prices go you can get laid for 50.000 pesos in El Centro and 1. 000.000 in Parque Lleras and there are prices everywhere in between so it is up to the foreign monger to decide what he wants to pay, whether he chooses to pay the 1. 000.000 or slum it in El Centro for 50.000 that is his choice. And for fuck's sakes for the thousandth time you guys stop asking these girls "how much" and nicely but firmly tell them how much you pay, act like you know what you're doing and not a clueless tourist even if you are one.[/QUOTE]Well thought out and nicely articulated comments about Medellin mongering scene. Good job guys. The three of you spoke on different topics, but interestingly summarized pretty much my life and experiences in Medellin. Every one of us has a different style of doing things and there is no right or wrong. Your comments motivated me to share how I do things.
I don't live here, but I spend several months a year, at one to two weeks at a time approximatelyfor the last 12 -13 years. I learned decent Spanish over this time using Pimsleur app. When I'm here, I'm quite busy with work so I keep to myself and I do not socialize with any gringos. I have absolutely nothing against it, but it is the time factor. I do not have any male colombian friends either. Because my time is short, and I spend my mornings working, I dedicate all my late afternoons and evenings to hanging out with my amorcitos.
I typically spend 2 to 3 hours with a girl. I routinely eat and drink with them. I try to be a good host. I ask them if they're hungry and order food before they ask me. I get to know them, their families their life situation and I genuinely listen to them and I try to advise them. They are typically under 21, not book smart due to bumdass education in Colombia but street-smart. Most do not have fathers or any kind of mentors at home. In this culture, they do not care that you are 2 to 3 times their age. They're happy to chill or party with a papacito. If you want a girlfriend experience, you have to treat them like a girlfriend. It is not cash that buys you a true girlfriend experience.
I obviously love sex and lots of it which I make it very clear but I romance them. I have small gifts for them, get a place with Jacuzzi or hot tubs and I pamper them with a massage, if time permits. I take them out on outings and most importantly, I treat them with respect and I don't act cheap. I volunteer to call them Uber or pay for their Inddrive without asking for proof of what they paid. Ha ha. I do my best to make sure that they have a great time every time they come see me. I make them feel so comfortable and that sometimes they do not want to leave! I have to gently nudge them out with an excuse because the next one is coming. All the good vibes aside I also know that they're young adults and young adults need boundaries. I make it very clear to them that my boundaries are non negotiable. Every one of my girls know that a once they hear a no from me it is a no and they can't ever push it. I tell them I'm generous, but I'm not stupid. Because I treat them well, in return they show me an amazing time with a lifetime worth of memories. I sincerely believe in spending money to make memories.
I prioritize class over cost. When you treat a girl nicely and show some class, the next time she comes, she wants to bring a friend. Since I'm still working, my time is valuable. What more can a guy want when a beautiful girl wants to bring another beautiful girl without you searching for hours on Facebook. And so your network grows organically. And when I do find a gem, I arrange a friends with benefit relationship. That makes it more expensive but less transactional feeling. My gem is a beautiful girl with a sweet face, tight body, goes to gym, all natural honest smart, and either goes to university or has some job and lives with family. A girl who is living independently, most likely is working a bit too much from my taste. There's nothing wrong with it, but does not generally belong in the friends with benefits category. But the key factors are good energy and no drama. At any given time, I have 5 to 8 girls and I see them 1 to 3 times in a week. I don't insist on loyalty but I curate them for low frequency. If you befriend, a girl who is busy studying or working, she's less likely to be sleeping around with a new guy every day. I don't check their phones nor do I track them. I just want them to be available when I want to see them. If a girl says no to me twice, I put her on notice and the third "no' gets her off my list. I don't fight with any of them for any reason. If something is off, I just stop seeing them, as there are plenty more, but I do remain friends and I greet them occasionally and check on them during holidays and birthdays.
I bet there are a ton of guys that do what I do, but most probably they are too busy to take the time to write on this relatively thankless forum. Ha ha.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048562]Well thought out and nicely articulated comments about Medellin mongering scene. Good job guys. The three of you spoke on different topics, but interestingly summarized pretty much my life and experiences in Medellin. Every one of us has a different style of doing things and there is no right or wrong. Your comments motivated me to share how I do things.
I don't live here, but I spend several months a year, at one to two weeks at a time approximatelyfor the last 12 -13 years. I learned decent Spanish over this time using Pimsleur app. When I'm here, I'm quite busy with work so I keep to myself and I do not socialize with any gringos. I have absolutely nothing against it, but it is the time factor. I do not have any male colombian friends either. Because my time is short, and I spend my mornings working, I dedicate all my late afternoons and evenings to hanging out with my amorcitos.
I typically spend 2 to 3 hours with a girl. I routinely eat and drink with them. I try to be a good host. I ask them if they're hungry and order food before they ask me. I get to know them, their families their life situation and I genuinely listen to them and I try to advise them. They are typically under 21, not book smart due to bumdass education in Colombia but street-smart. Most do not have fathers or any kind of mentors at home. In this culture, they do not care that you are 2 to 3 times their age. They're happy to chill or party with a papacito. If you want a girlfriend experience, you have to treat them like a girlfriend. It is not cash that buys you a true girlfriend experience.
I obviously love sex and lots of it which I make it very clear but I romance them. I have small gifts for them, get a place with Jacuzzi or hot tubs and I pamper them with a massage, if time permits. I take them out on outings and most importantly, I treat them with respect and I don't act cheap. I volunteer to call them Uber or pay for their Inddrive without asking for proof of what they paid. Ha ha. I do my best to make sure that they have a great time every time they come see me. I make them feel so comfortable and that sometimes they do not want to leave! I have to gently nudge them out with an excuse because the next one is coming. All the good vibes aside I also know that they're young adults and young adults need boundaries. I make it very clear to them that my boundaries are non negotiable. Every one of my girls know that a once they hear a no from me it is a no and they can't ever push it. I tell them I'm generous, but I'm not stupid. Because I treat them well, in return they show me an amazing time with a lifetime worth of memories. I sincerely believe in spending money to make memories.
I prioritize class over cost. When you treat a girl nicely and show some class, the next time she comes, she wants to bring a friend. Since I'm still working, my time is valuable. What more can a guy want when a beautiful girl wants to bring another beautiful girl without you searching for hours on Facebook. And so your network grows organically. And when I do find a gem, I arrange a friends with benefit relationship. That makes it more expensive but less transactional feeling. My gem is a beautiful girl with a sweet face, tight body, goes to gym, all natural honest smart, and either goes to university or has some job and lives with family. A girl who is living independently, most likely is working a bit too much from my taste. There's nothing wrong with it, but does not generally belong in the friends with benefits category. But the key factors are good energy and no drama. At any given time, I have 5 to 8 girls and I see them 1 to 3 times in a week. I don't insist on loyalty but I curate them for low frequency. If you befriend, a girl who is busy studying or working, she's less likely to be sleeping around with a new guy every day. I don't check their phones nor do I track them. I just want them to be available when I want to see them. If a girl says no to me twice, I put her on notice and the third "no' gets her off my list. I don't fight with any of them for any reason. If something is off, I just stop seeing them, as there are plenty more, but I do remain friends and I greet them occasionally and check on them during holidays and birthdays.
I bet there are a ton of guys that do what I do, but most probably they are too busy to take the time to write on this relatively thankless forum. Ha ha.[/QUOTE]Your playbook is almost identical to mine, I have the most wonderful rotation of awesome girls, I'm a very happy old man, LOL.
[QUOTE=Combo;3048495]Sure, but it's much easier for the locals to blame foreigners.[/QUOTE]There are shit tons of ex pats blaming foreigners too, clueless.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048562]Well thought out and nicely articulated comments about Medellin mongering scene. Good job guys. The three of you spoke on different topics, but interestingly summarized pretty much my life and experiences in Medellin. Every one of us has a different style of doing things and there is no right or wrong. Your comments motivated me to share how I do things.
I don't live here, but I spend several months a year, at one to two weeks at a time approximatelyfor the last 12 -13 years. I learned decent Spanish over this time using Pimsleur app. When I'm here, I'm quite busy with work so I keep to myself and I do not socialize with any gringos. I have absolutely nothing against it, but it is the time factor. I do not have any male colombian friends either. Because my time is short, and I spend my mornings working, I dedicate all my late afternoons and evenings to hanging out with my amorcitos.
I typically spend 2 to 3 hours with a girl. I routinely eat and drink with them. I try to be a good host. I ask them if they're hungry and order food before they ask me. I get to know them, their families their life situation and I genuinely listen to them and I try to advise them. They are typically under 21, not book smart due to bumdass education in Colombia but street-smart. Most do not have fathers or any kind of mentors at home. In this culture, they do not care that you are 2 to 3 times their age. They're happy to chill or party with a papacito. If you want a girlfriend experience, you have to treat them like a girlfriend. It is not cash that buys you a true girlfriend experience..[/QUOTE]Sounds like a lot of work.
What if you just want to fuck them?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3048428]You fail to understand that though it is the foreigners paying these inflated prices for rentals and real estate purchases it is because Colombians are setting these inflated prices. Do you think foreigners are coming to Colombia and asking to pay MORE than the advertised price? The increase in real estate sales and rental prices falls straight on Colombians, not foreigners. Furthermore 90% of rentals and real estate purchases are by Colombians and NOT foreigners so how can it possibly be the fault of foreigners? As far as chica prices go you can get laid for 50.000 pesos in El Centro and 1. 000.000 in Parque Lleras and there are prices everywhere in between so it is up to the foreign monger to decide what he wants to pay, whether he chooses to pay the 1. 000.000 or slum it in El Centro for 50.000 that is his choice. And for fuck's sakes for the thousandth time you guys stop asking these girls "how much" and nicely but firmly tell them how much you pay, act like you know what you're doing and not a clueless tourist even if you are one.[/QUOTE]For the real estate the problem is that is somehing who should not be disponnible on the foreign market. You put a basic need limited supply on a market with potential illimited demand. Almost all poor country with high toursitic demand are condemning the future generation to poverty when they let foreigner buy real estate. Thailand tried to block this, and foreigner can't own land in thailand, but the country is so corrupted that foreigner are using a third party to get access to the market. For people who are payin a million cop for a girls. They are dumb. Someone who is going there maybe I can get it. They think its a life deal but if you go in medellin more often and continue to pay a million cop for a girls. Well you should travel in dubai instead or anywhere where you can get girls who are even prettiest then the one in Medellin minus the risk of being shot dead randomly for your shoes.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048249]This is why I don't post prices in my reports. Someone always turns it into a discussion about money and not about quality, service or the experience. It is like when someone posted a review about a restaurant, and imagine the discussion getting hijacked and ends up being about the cost of the bill and not about the quality of the food, ambience, or the service. That would be a shame. Don't you agree?
I don't run or operate these businesses. I'm just a customer like everybody else here. I just don't mind paying as I see a value in it. People that don't see a value in it don't have to partake. If someone wants to travel to Medellin for cheap sex, I'm sure plenty of that is available.
What people should be happy to know about Medellin are the variety of options available and that is a good thing. This forum is about sharing information and not about criticizing one's voluntary choices.[/QUOTE]On which planet is the service, quality of the food not related to the price. A 5 $ meal will be judged differently than a 100 $ meal if the same meal is served at those prices. Basic business reality.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048456]My understanding is that the safety in Medellin is ass. I've never been there, but based on what I've read, seen, and coming to my own conclusions, it basically looks to me that every fuck-able girl you see walking in el Poblado is working with a gang and is walking specifically there to find their next target to drug and rob.
I don't know how true that is, but that's the vibe I'm getting based on everything I know.
In terms of pricing? Well, it doesn't matter what the price is.
If the risk is that you get drugged, robbed, and / or killed, the price could be $1 and it still wouldn't make sense to participate.
So pricing, is really an irrelevant factor in this discussion.[/QUOTE]What's irrelevant is people who haven't been there giving completely clueless opinions. The next time you start with 'I have never been there, but' maybe stop and think. Or just make a fool of yourself.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048562]I learned decent Spanish over this time using Pimsleur app.... I dedicate all my late afternoons and evenings to hanging out with my amorcitos.[/QUOTE]Amorcitos would be dudes so either spend more time on Pimsleur or find a gay forum.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048433]Not been to Medellin but am planning to go in a month or so. Based on some of the pricing here action seems to start around $100 usd in the parque Lleras area. Of course centro and others will be cheaper but come with some risk.[/QUOTE]Not 'start around'. That should be the most you offer. The mistake new people make is asking how much. Girls don't have a set price. They're obviously trying to get as much as they can out of every guy. You tell them what you're offering and then stick to it and the girl will either go for it or not. Most usually they will. 300 to 400 K COP is the current Poblado norm (that's 75-100 USD with some rounding). And obviously in other places, other conditions, other times that can be lower. But never, never ask how much. Again, they don't have a set price. They're going to look at you and try to figure out how much extra they can get out of you. It's not uncommon for the girls to go around the park asking for 600 COP or more as their price, just ignore that and state / stick to what you are offering.
Another member drew a helpful distinction between living here and visiting. Speaking only for myself, the girls I enjoy hanging out with when we are not in bed are a subset of those I take to bed. My opinion is it's somewhere between very difficult and impossible to figure out which girls you enjoy spending time with when you are not in bed if you aren't here full time. The good news is that doesn't really matter if you aren't here full time. The other bit of good news, in spite of doom and gloom posts to the contrary, it's not at all difficult to find girls you are attracted to that you can fuck.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048589]Sounds like a lot of work.
What if you just want to fuck them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3048520]Spoken like a man who has never there. Enough said.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Huacho;3048624]What's irrelevant is people who haven't been there giving completely clueless opinions. The next time you start with 'I have never been there, but' maybe stop and think. Or just make a fool of yourself.[/QUOTE]You could all be right, I have no idea.
But in the event that you're wrong, and that I'm right, there is a real possibility to end up getting drugged and waking up with your online bank accounts drained.
When mongering in a different country, it's ideal that one sees zero reports of druggings and robbings of their fellow mongers. At this point, we've all seen the Colombian drugging videos on youtube by now.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048637]Not 'start around'. That should be the most you offer. The mistake new people make is asking how much. Girls don't have a set price. They're obviously trying to get as much as they can out of every guy. You tell them what you're offering and then stick to it and the girl will either go for it or not. Most usually they will. 300 to 400 K COP is the current Poblado norm (that's 75-100 USD with some rounding). And obviously in other places, other conditions, other times that can be lower. But never, never ask how much. Again, they don't have a set price. They're going to look at you and try to figure out how much extra they can get out of you. It's not uncommon for the girls to go around the park asking for 600 COP or more as their price, just ignore that and state / stick to what you are offering.[/QUOTE]Is that 300-400 k COP for the hour? Or is it for a half hour?
Just curious.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048637]Not 'start around'. That should be the most you offer. The mistake new people make is asking how much. Girls don't have a set price. They're obviously trying to get as much as they can out of every guy. You tell them what you're offering and then stick to it and the girl will either go for it or not.[/QUOTE]Then what if the girl was going to say a price less than what you offered? Who goes to buy anything and just blurts out a price before finding out what the seller is looking to get? If you walk up offering 300, they do not forget they were looking for 500. It is a negotiation. It is not whoever says the price first wins.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048589]Sounds like a lot of work.
What if you just want to fuck them?[/QUOTE]You can do just that for the girls you just met. There is a difference between bed / sex time, and staying time. There is no reason to waste time and effort If all you want is bed time. Ideally, it's better to start with sex and end with sex, then do everything in between or after sex.
Having said that, it does not hurt to be prepared when the situation arises. Go to the grocery store D1 to pick up drink and food. I strongly don't recommend ordering food as the wait time is uncertain and that may cut into your bed time if you have not clarified that in advance. Don't solve the problem with more money and time when you can solve it with less time and under $5.
I have done everything that have been mentioned here. I have a large fridge full of foods and drinks. I order food sometimes for the girl that I know well, or for occasions like birthday. Often we took Uber to go out the get them in person. But now I act after I observer first and not on auto-pilot like before.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048456]My understanding is that the safety in Medellin is ass. I've never been there, but based on what I've read, seen, and coming to my own conclusions, it basically looks to me that every fuck-able girl you see walking in el Poblado is working with a gang and is walking specifically there to find their next target to drug and rob.
I don't know how true that is, but that's the vibe I'm getting based on everything I know.[/QUOTE]I am saying this based on my experience and I have regulars working at Lleras. I would say the majority of the girls you see are not working with gang. More common is that they have husband or boyfriend.
El Poblado and Laureles are safer than El Centro. In Laureles, Estadio is safer than Suramerica. I have stayed from south to north and from east to west alone the metro lines for more than a month at a time and I walked all over the city. Overall, Sao Paulo in Brazil and Buenos Aires in Argentina are much safer than Medellin. For Centro in Sao Paulo or Rio are safter than Centro in Medellin. I have walked for more than 1 hour after or around midnight in all these areas. I have lived in all the cities mentioned no less than 6 months in the past few years.
Safety is relative. You have to know the background of the poster. A poster who goes out only during daytime and travel in limited area or always travel by Uber will have a different perspective.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3048625]Amorcitos would be dudes so either spend more time on Pimsleur or find a gay forum.[/QUOTE]
Ja ja. Ay gracias mi amorcita.
Just kidding. The word amorcito is the correct form and is used for both men and women. Just like how the word amor is gender neutral. I don’t blame you for not knowing that subtlety as you may not be used to calling anyone that.
I do however appreciate good sense of humor incase you said it in jest, even if it is deeply sarcastic. Cheers.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048540]100% agree, always use local.[/QUOTE]It depends. I would use it toward my advantage. The girl may quote 100 USD, but she may say 40 K pesos when the exchange rate is at 3700, which would you choose?
Based on what I have observed from the Lleras girls that I am familiar with. They received USD all the time. Just recently, one sent her video to me where she laid out all money she had on a table like those you see in the news when the criminal got caught. There were a lot of 100 USD bills. Occasionally, a girl would pull out a stack of bills showing me how much they made and I always saw a stack of 20's, or 100's. Initially, I thought that was all the money she had but after a while I realized that was the money the made in a couple of days that they have not put away yet.
The starting Lleras price often is 400 K or 100 USD. The most attractive girls will ask that much and more and can make a lot money like I described above, these are very difficult to negotiate because there are many takers. The service is also often limited for the same reason. For others, you maybe able to negotiate the price down to 250 K or 200 K If you are skillful with patience. The pricing can be very flexible when they are not working at LLeras. I have Lleras girls that tag alone with others for 50 K or 100 K outside of the working hours. They consider I live here so that is the perk of staying here long term and being nice. These are like Cinderalla that they will not stay after 10 or 11 PM for what I pay.
[QUOTE=ClarkCent;3048540] Really reconsidering whether I should go there or not. The whole point of Medellin was it was supposed to be within my budget. For the amounts quoted here, I could go Sao Paulo instead and have a blast.[/QUOTE]I think It depends. Mid-range and below in Medellin have good value. Higher range have poor value. Compare Scandallo to La Isla, or Gusto.
You can also find a decent looking girl in El Centro for 50K or 70K for 30 minutes. You can just pay them 100K or 140K for an hour or negotiate from there. Most will have no problem going with you to your place for 150K based on my personal experience. I have a girl who would just do her job and leave with less money than she would get if she stay longer. I adjust to her behavior and only had her come in the morning and pay the minimum and it's all bed time.
The primary target when visiting Medellin should not be Nuru. It can be a secondary entertainment. For the same or less cost, Bangkok can give you 2 hours, no upsell, in a VIP room with Jacuzzi and you can smoke weed if you want. LOL
The high end restaurants that charge 100+ USD for a meal or steak are poor value when you compare it to other major cities like Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires or even Tokyo.
Uber is cheap but the quality of the cars are bad. The metro system is not exactly cheap and it is more like a budget airline when you compare it to the metros that charge similar or lower price but are like business class in Asia, developed countries or not, or Sao Paulo
[QUOTE=SureshRaj;3048619]On which planet is the service, quality of the food not related to the price. A 5 $ meal will be judged differently than a 100 $ meal if the same meal is served at those prices. Basic business reality.[/QUOTE]Of course price matters. Money is it the center of every transaction and every thing we do and talk about here is transactional. In an ideal world every report would have the exact price somebody paid. But on this forum, people get attacked and criticized for paying an amount that is perceived to be excessive by others. Most guys on these forums that criticize others for paying a certain price, fail to see the value. For example, one may not see the value in paying three times the price for a first class seat on an airplane just to get 1 inch more recline and 4 inch wider seat and warm nuts and free drink. But there are always few people that see the value in it and they pay for it. But you would not call them stupid for doing so. Both a Toyota and Mercedes will get you from point A to point be, just like how a 100,000 peso girl or a 500,000 peso girl would both get you off. It is your choice on what or who you want to ride (ha ha. Pun intended). But you can't call a person dumb for their personal choices, or worse, being blamed for raising the prices for others. So, people have stopped posting prices rather than having to constantly justify to strangers on how they spend their own money.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048654]You could all be right, I have no idea.
But in the event that you're wrong, and that I'm right, there is a real possibility to end up getting drugged and waking up with your online bank accounts drained.
[/QUOTE]If you don't store valuable in the place that the girl can reach, not even in the safe, then there is no problem. That is what I do. Use your imagination on how to achieve that.
I had a friend who came to visit me the first time. I warned him be careful with Tinder in person. He was drugged and rubbed in less than a week and was shocked and left immediately. That maybe 1 in 100000 so it depends on which side you are on. Again, it's better to know the background of the poster.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048696]Of course price matters. Money is it the center of every transaction and every thing we do and talk about here is transactional. In an ideal world every report would have the exact price somebody paid. But on this forum, people get attacked and criticized for paying an amount that is perceived to be excessive by others. Most guys on these forums that criticize others for paying a certain price, fail to see the value. For example, one may not see the value in paying three times the price for a first class seat on an airplane just to get 1 inch more recline and 4 inch wider seat and warm nuts and free drink. But there are always few people that see the value in it and they pay for it. But you would not call them stupid for doing so. Both a Toyota and Mercedes will get you from point A to point be, just like how a 100,000 peso girl or a 500,000 peso girl would both get you off. It is your choice on what or who you want to ride (ha ha. Pun intended). But you can't call a person dumb for their personal choices, or worse, being blamed for raising the prices for others. So, people have stopped posting prices rather than having to constantly justify to strangers on how they spend their own money.[/QUOTE]Price is relative and what that means is that a lot of money to one person is not a lot of money to another person. How much you make and how much you have shapes your perception of price and willingness to pay a little more or not care as much about a few dollars. I know guys criticize other for how much they pay if guys pay more than they pay, but how much you make and how much you have affects how you feel about a few dollars. For example, if you have millions of dollars, paying an extra 100 mil or $26 more for a girl that you really like is insignificant to you. If you have a tight budget and not much in savings, 100 mil may mean a lot of you. It is not only working class men who visit Medellin, many guys with money also visit Medellin. New York City and Miami is very close to Medellin and there are plenty of guys with money from there who visit and extra 100 mil or even 300 mil is just not that much money relative to what they have, especially if they are on vacation. That is a point that many guys miss, that the guy you are calling a simp or an idiot simply makes 10 times more than you or just has a lot of money.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3048771]Price is relative and what that means is that a lot of money to one person is not a lot of money to another person....... That is a point that many guys miss, that the guy you are calling a simp or an idiot simply makes 10 times more than you or just has a lot of money.[/QUOTE]This, and I've met quite a few guys, particularly the 'young weekend millionaire' crowd who are simply horrible with money and blow all they have. I've met guys who complained about being ordered to pay $600/ mth for child support and then spent $1000 on girls / partying over the next 3 days. This noted, that's their prerogative.
Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?
Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. I even modified the time to 20 minutes later just to be a super polite so she wouldn't have to wait at all for me. So I turned up at the motel on time feeling super horny and excited after having taken the Viagra. After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! So anyway I sent her a couple more messages asking where she was, feeling a combination of annoyed with her for thinking she can make me wait and also realizing the Viagra was wearing off so I wouldn't be able to enjoy the sex as much. Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, giving me stories that she got a moto there that was involved in some kind of collision. She sent me a photo of her bruised ankle, she left that guy and refused to pay him and called another one and had to wait another 10 minutes. Got stuck in loads of traffic etc etc. Then said she had to walk home because she didn't have enough money for transport and some random man picked her up and took her home, plus she guilt tripped me by sending the photos of her bruised ankle.
So I explained to her my position that it's disrespectful to make me wait all that time, that she know's I'm a foreigner as well and don't want to hang around in the lobby of a short-term motel for 40 minutes and also about the Viagra wearing off. I told her that's why it was important that she was there at the specific time. And also why guilt trip me about her bruised ankle because it had nothing to do with me.
Anyway was I right to have left, did I do anything wrong? I feel a bit bad for her in a way because I suspect she was more naive than playing games. I didn't like it that she asked earlier if I'd pay her transport because I know girls can use that as a way of getting extra cash. She said she was going to get a motorbike for which I said I'll give you 5 K max. But looking back I wish she'd just asked for a bit more money and got herself an Uber, because I don't want to get involved in paying the drivers myself when they could be her friends overcharging me etc. Anyway we argued a bit about it on Facebook after she got home but in the end she seemed to understand my point of view. She's actually a super calm person but seems to confuse a paid sex date with a real date and kind of assumes that because she's super cute I would just be OK with her being late. I told her if it was a real date you can be half an hour late but not if you're an escort agreeing to meet me at a specific time and I'm paying you for it. Anyway, I'd appreciate others views on this and advice re. Viagra and Cialis.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play.[/QUOTE]Issues #1: Cialis works bit different. It takes long to act and long to wear off. I normally take small 5 MG daily on trips only. But I do get bad headache once in while.
Issue #2: Majority of people here will agree that Chica most of the time cannot be depended upon to be punctual. I actually get surprised if they are on time. So always keep in mind and plan that 30-45 minuets are nothing and even no-shows are possible.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?
Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. I even modified the time to 20 minutes later just to be a super polite so she wouldn't have to wait at all for me. So I turned up at the motel on time feeling super horny and excited after having taken the Viagra. After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! So anyway I sent her a couple more messages asking where she was, feeling a combination of annoyed with her for thinking she can make me wait and also realizing the Viagra was wearing off so I wouldn't be able to enjoy the sex as much. Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, giving me stories that she got a moto there that was involved in some kind of collision. She sent me a photo of her bruised ankle, she left that guy and refused to pay him and called another one and had to wait another 10 minutes. Got stuck in loads of traffic etc etc. Then said she had to walk home because she didn't have enough money for transport and some random man picked her up and took her home, plus she guilt tripped me by sending the photos of her bruised ankle.
So I explained to her my position that it's disrespectful to make me wait all that time, that she know's I'm a foreigner as well and don't want to hang around in the lobby of a short-term motel for 40 minutes and also about the Viagra wearing off. I told her that's why it was important that she was there at the specific time. And also why guilt trip me about her bruised ankle because it had nothing to do with me..[/QUOTE]A couple of things: These drugs Cialis and Viagra don't "work" the same with everyone. I use Cialis and that lasts for several hours. I usually take it an hour before a meeting. I also use a a drug from RO that combines Cialis and Viagra and lasts for 18 hours. It only takes 15 minutes to kick in. It's like cherry tablet that you suck on until it evaporates.
In South America. Sometimes the folks are not sticklers for time like we are here. These deadlines we give people from our habits here in USA might be unfair. Unless you need something like a taxi to take you to an airport. It takes women longer to get ready than it does for men. I try to factor that in and don't do the "rush and fuck" time oriented dates. I am little older than you so I like to take my time.
I always send an Uber so I know when they are coming and that they are alone. If you leave it up to them, they will take the cheapest option that always takes longer. I never heard of a local using Uber as it costs more. The girls are relieved when I offer to take care of their transportation. When I did not do this strange dudes would arrive with them. It's not worth it. At least not for me.
When I visit I do use Prepagos only freelancers. I think there is a difference. I don't like this idea of "service" it turns me off. The best experiences are when it is not a service. The only exception is if you are seeing Porn Star. That can be a service and a good experience. Also, this is me but I don't put a label on the girl just because I paid her. I am not going to refer to girl who obviously isn't working for an agency as an escort. There's no upside to refer to anyone as such. That's me. I would not want to be referred to or treated like a "John. " There's no need for labels.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048692]You can also find a decent looking girl in El Centro for 50K or 70K for 30 minutes. You can just pay them 100K or 140K for an hour or negotiate from there. Most will have no problem going with you to your place for 150K based on my personal experience. I have a girl who would just do her job and leave with less money than she would get if she stay longer. I adjust to her behavior and only had her come in the morning and pay the minimum and it's all bed time.[/QUOTE]What hotel do you usually stay when bringing girls from El Centro? I'm wondering how far they are willing to travel on uber together.
Also wondering how badly would an Asian tourist stand out walking around El Centro? I'm of Asian descent and visited Bogota before on a vanilla trip so did not partake. Although there weren't many other Asian tourists that I saw, it did not seem like the locals were surprised to see me. I honestly was expecting a second or two longer stares or the occasional "chino! Chino!" but perhaps all of that was happening behind my shoulders?
I'm thinking to hit El Centro during the day to find one to my liking that is also willing to come back to my hotel away from the area.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour.
Anyway we argued a bit about it on Facebook after she got home but in the end she seemed to understand my point of view. She's actually a super calm person but seems to confuse a paid sex date with a real date and kind of assumes that because she's super cute I would just be OK with her being late.[/QUOTE]The phrase not being able to get laid in a brothel comes to mind. Did she say she can be late because she is cute or is this Coupe66 climbing into her mind and broadcasting what he thinks he sees inside?
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]I told her if it was a real date you can be half an hour late but not if you're an escort agreeing to meet me at a specific time and I'm paying you for it. Anyway, I'd appreciate others views on this[/QUOTE]You seem to be taking it personal when it is just Colombia. Had a chick who is not a hooker supposed to meet me at the airport at 2 pm. When I landed and asked where she was, she nonchalantly said she was home. Not doing shit. No emergency, just at home. Said she would be at the airport at 2:30. Well if you think I am waiting around until 2:30 you have lost your damn mind. Stopped talking to her. She kept messaging and messaging. So I gave it another chance. Always talking about how she wants to be with me. So next time flight was due to arrive at 2 pm. We agreed to meet at the airport at 2 pm. I landed and asked where she was. At home again. I have not said a word to her since. I told her that I am 100% sure that on her job when she agrees to be there at 8 am, she does not chill at home and tell them at the last minute that she will come at 8:30. And on top of all her bullshit, she has the nerve to call me rude. I go to her city twice with plans of meeting her and she stands me up twice? The nerve of that broad calling someone rude.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]But looking back I wish she'd just asked for a bit more money and got herself an Uber, because I don't want to get involved in paying the drivers myself when they could be her friends overcharging me etc.[/QUOTE]You could have gotten her a personal helicopter ride and there would have still been an excuse. When I am nowhere around it seems all the chicks are sitting around bored with nothing to do. As soon as I arrive it seems that life hits them with all kinds of emergencies and things they must do, so fuck me being there. The other stuff takes precedence. So I just get in where I fit in and the first one who makes it to home base is the one I put my marbles on. That is why I always have a be, see, and the plan.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]and advice re. Viagra and Cialis.[/QUOTE]All of that shit gives me a massive headache so it is not worth the squeeze.
P.S. On the flipside I met a nurse in Bogota. She spent the night with me. Everything running smooth. The next day she needed to go home and take care of some business and get some more clothes. When she got back I was not at the apartment. I was literally a 5 minute walk away down at the mall. I told her I was on the way back. That broad cussed me out and left before I got there talking about how I wasted her time. Then I know a couple of chicks that just like to argue. Obviously it is them, because this happens with nobody else. Then there are chicks who are busy and you are supposed to understand. But the moment you are busy they catch an attitude. I just take it that a lot of folks have issues and move on to the next. Can't see how a guy is married or has a girlfriend and will put up with shit like this.
So I went back to Medellin Dec 19th- Dec 25th. Went LAX-CDMX and had a LAID over at the Hilton with a former Tijuana girl. Sexy as FK. Had a 6 hour gap before the flight to Panama and then Medellin. Getting laid while waiting for a flight sure as hell beats being in that shitty Salas lounge.
Anyway, I get to MDE in the early AM on a Friday. Not much of a line. Passport stamped. I met up with Blupillow. Will do a full report on Medellin later.
Anyway, Medellin was just a stopover. The real destination was Rio De Jainero for NYE and being an American Citizen, I noticed I needed a visa last minute for Brazil- which I got-phew. You'd be amazed at how hard it is to get logistically from MDE to GIG in comfort. Luckily I found a business class flight on points going through Miami and this is where the trouble began.
I have global entry. I'm a US Citizen- been naturalized for over 20 years and from a strongly allied country with the USA that is not Turk or Arab. I want to emphasize, I just look like your average white guy.
I get into MIA on Christmas Day, scan my face at the global entry counter and boom- Off to secondary. OK. Meanwhile no one is telling me what this is about. I get to a room with a detective who is interrogating me and searches my luggage. This is the second time I get shit when going through customs in Miami out of the 2 times I've been there. Maybe its because I'm from LAX? Idk.
The worst part-.
The detective asks me what I did in Medellin and where I stayed. I have him the info of the Airbnb. Somewhat standard.
Then he gives me a piece of paper / pamphlet stating that they can go through my phone and social media accounts and laptop. I had 2 phones and a shitty laptop I bought in MDE to apply for the Brazil visa because the checkboxes wouldn't load on mobile for the photo upload.
Then he has a conversation with me about women in Medellin and I understand where this is going. They are screening for Pedos so I wasn't worried one bit. He mentioned that women in MDE drug men and rob them (no shit) - I told him that I only stay at secure Airbnbs that check IDs and filter out minors- I specifically mentioned that and then he admitted that they were looking for pedophiles.
He askes me for my passcodes and I am asked to leave the room while he checks my phones. This was somewhat embarrassing. He probably saw the Hongkong chicas from Tijuana I got on there on my Cabo trips with them and some kinky shit I do with them. Asks me if I have a connecting flight- which I tell him I do for Rio De Jainero. He looks at the shitty 20 year old laptop and decides not to go through it LOL, even though I encourage him to as it literally jhad nothing on it.
About 20 minutes go by, I can hear some laughs (smh), I get my phone back, a thank you for my cooperation and transparency and am sent on my way to my flight. I go to the AA flagship lounge and take a nice hot shower after feeling violated.
I suspect they downloaded my info. Not sure if changing my passcode will even do anything.
Just and FYI for you guys.
Reports on MDE and GIG coming in the near future. Got to hangout with Vagabundo in Rio.
MDE and Rio are two completely different vibes.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?[/QUOTE]These are only my thoughts, not medical advice. Viagra was inialally developed, and is now approved, to relieve high blood pressure. It would need to be taken every day if that was the reason someone took it. So it probably is not harmful to your health if taken every day, even if taken for ED. I've never had any side effects from generic viagra. I have tried Cialis and had side effects, slight fever, dizziness. It is supposed to be effective for ED up to 36 hours. The smallest dosage you can buy is 2.5mg. You can always cut those in half; but everything I've read about it is that you should talk to your doctor about the proper dose for you.
[QUOTE]Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today that I met another time at a club. I went downtown, had something light to eat and a drink and asked her to meet me at certain time at the motel. ... After 10 minutes waiting for her I asked her where she was, to which she said 'Oh you're there? I'll come now' !? I assumed of couse that she was already on her way! ... Anyway after half an hour I left. 10 minutes later she said she'd arrived, ...[/QUOTE]I know it is annoying to wait for a chica. More often than not I've experienced them getting ready to leave their house at the time we agreed to meet. I chalk that up to their lifestyle. They also do it when they have other types of appointments. If she is someone I really want to see, not just another sex session, I will wait for her. My thinking is that she will show up in less time than if I contact another chica and wait for her. I always give them advance notice before I cancel. Like, "If you're not here in 15 minutes, don't show up because I won't be here." That usually wakes them up and they will give me honest responses if they are on their way.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804] Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?
[/QUOTE]I vastly prefer Tadalafil. I get 20 MG tablets and divide them into 4. The longer half-life is great. So you can take 5 MG the night before and another 5 MG in the morning. If you want to be sure you can repeat 2 hours or so before action and you are good to go. Never experienced flushing or a quicker heart rate etc.
As to time keeping: I laughed so hard. You are in Latin America. If you get invited somewhere for 8p.m. and you turn up at 8pm it will be regarded as impolite. Always add at least 45 min. In fact there would be no harm for you to be late and wait for her to call or message you.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?[/QUOTE]I find a daily 5 MG of Cialis work great to keep your game up. I usually take it after lunch. Plus it's cheaper (generic) in Medellin than Viagra. If I know there is a big night, a 2nd 5 MG before heading out work out great too. Sometimes I take an Aleve if I take two, since Aleve lasts 12 hours it makes sure I don't get a headache.
[QUOTE]Secondly I had an argument with this Chica today...[/QUOTE]You have to remember, mentally (regardless of physical age), they're teenage kids. Not only do you have the fact that in Latin America no one ever stick to schedules or exact times, but on top of that, they're young and time management is not a skill they've learned. I always offer and get an Uber for them to come see me. I mean, yeah, it's kind of like an extra tip, but then I have clear tracking of when they're getting there. Plus, I've learned that if I need them to be somewhere specifically at a set time (like for a reservation), I don't tell them the time they need to be there. I tell them the time I need them to leave their house and when an Uber will be arriving to get them. Then I usually message them 30 minutes before to make sure that they're getting ready. I'm very polite, so the girls just take it as me giving them extra attention, but I stay on top of it. This has worked out for me pretty good in terms of making sure somebody is somewhere at the time I need them to be there.
But if I'm not watching a clock, like if I ask a girl to meet me for a beer and I know I'm going to be hanging out there for a while, then I just chill, say, hey, meet me at eight. But I know that she might not appear till nine. Now, I might still inquire along the way to make sure she's on course, but sometimes you just have to go with the local flow. And if they're not ready in time for me to order the Uber, then I just relax and say, hey, no problem, another day. The ones who are really, really wanting to see me will immediately rush and make it work, and the other ones will be like, okay, we'll do it another day. I usually have a plan be or see in my mind for these situations. After all, I'm the one on vacation, so I'm not going to get stressed over things.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]Last night I took a Viagra and went to a club I often go to but no chicas interested me, so came home with no play. Again today I arranged to meet a chica downtown this afternoon at a short-term motel. She was late and I was annoyed so left after half an hour. So my first issue is about Viagra. I'm in my 50's and find if I take half a 25 MG it gives me a sexual boost and also makes me mentally hornier (even though the experts say it doesn't do that). Apart from the sex, even though what I'm taking is a low dose I don't think it does my health much good though and I tend to feel a bit rougher the next day, especially if I didn't have sex. Plus it's not ideal to take it one day after another. I've never tried Cialis, how does it compare? I read that it keeps you stimulated for several days which certainly isn't the case with Viagra. Is the feeling you get different on Cialis than Viagra? What's a low dosage of Cialis?[/QUOTE]There are a bunch of different analogs of via / cia that may work better. Vardenafil, udenafil, Aminotaladfil, acetadenafil, nortadalafil, etc.
Not all are approved in all countries but most are easily found online.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048891]
I always offer and get an Uber for them to come see me. I mean, yeah, it's kind of like an extra tip, but then I have clear tracking of when they're getting there. Plus, I've learned that if I need them to be somewhere specifically at a set time (like for a reservation), I don't tell them the time they need to be there. I tell them the time I need them to leave their house and when an Uber will be arriving to get them. Then I usually message them 30 minutes before to make sure that they're getting ready. I'm very polite, so the girls just take it as me giving them extra attention, but I stay on top of it. This has worked out for me pretty good in terms of making sure somebody is somewhere at the time I need them to be there.
[/QUOTE]Bravo!
You achieve what you want and at the same time you are the gentleman to them. So smooth.
I'm guessing that your itinerary history trumped you "looking like the average white guy" and set off bells and whistles. LAX / MDE / MIA. GIG is not typical, especially the three hour flight north to go nine hours in the opposite direction. From Medellin via Bogota you can get direct flights to Rio on LATAM, GOL, or Avianca. Avianca sucks but you can use Copa miles. GOL is OK and they are affiliated with American Airlines' frequent flyer program. I'm glad it was only a minor inconvenience and look forward to reading your reports.
[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3048858]So I went back to Medellin Dec 19th- Dec 25th. Went LAX-CDMX and had a LAID over at the Hilton with a former Tijuana girl. Sexy as FK. Had a 6 hour gap before the flight to Panama and then Medellin. Getting laid while waiting for a flight sure as hell beats being in that shitty Salas lounge.
Anyway, I get to MDE in the early AM on a Friday. Not much of a line. Passport stamped. I met up with Blupillow. Will do a full report on Medellin later.
Anyway, Medellin was just a stopover. The real destination was Rio De Jainero for NYE and being an American Citizen, I noticed I needed a visa last minute for Brazil- which I got-phew. You'd be amazed at how hard it is to get logistically from MDE to GIG in comfort. Luckily I found a business class flight on points going through Miami and this is where the trouble began.
I have global entry. I'm a US Citizen- been naturalized for over 20 years and from a strongly allied country with the USA that is not Turk or Arab. I want to emphasize, I just look like your average white guy.
I get into MIA on Christmas Day, scan my face at the global entry counter and boom- Off to secondary. OK. Meanwhile no one is telling me what this is about. I get to a room with a detective who is interrogating me and searches my luggage. This is the second time I get shit when going through customs in Miami out of the 2 times I've been there. Maybe its because I'm from LAX? Idk...[/QUOTE]
I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]That's more money for one night than I spend in two weeks. It's ridiculous, they think you are desperate. Why in God's name do you need an entire night with someone you do not know. Just because you pay that much doesn't mean you'll have a good experience.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3048804]I'd appreciate others views on this[/QUOTE]In your situation, you can ask her to send you WhatsApp live location to track her movement.
You can try to be more explicit. You must arriave at the hotel at x PM will register differently then Let's met at the hotel at x PM. The former is more effective.
The country won't function if most of them are not on time. There are some places that will just cancel your appointment if you are 15 minutes late. I see them line up for a 8 PM concert at 2 PM so I am pretty certain they know how to be on time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048673]Then what if the girl was going to say a price less than what you offered? Who goes to buy anything and just blurts out a price before finding out what the seller is looking to get? If you walk up offering 300, they do not forget they were looking for 500. It is a negotiation. It is not whoever says the price first wins.[/QUOTE]I want to know their price and service first. I don't even need to tell them my offer if I don't like what they offer.
In other situation, I got offer like this which I would never offer this low on my own.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048654]
Is that 300-400 k COP for the hour? Or is it for a half hour?
[/QUOTE]Default is 1 shot if not specified. LLeras default is 1 hour. Centro is 30 minutes. Casa or bar often is from 30 minutes.
In reality, it a learning process. Length is less important than the number of shots. I only ask about minimal service requirement most of the time because I am willing to invest to get what I want. Once the girl is familiar with you, you don't even need to negotiate for more.
The first is a Lleras girl. She offered to stay until 10PM because she leaves to go to Lleras at 10 PM. If you catch her at 10 PM at Lleras and if she is popular, she is unlikely to spend more time with you. This is something you will learn if you do it enough. We choose them but at the same time they also choose whom they like to make offer. I learn this because I exchange notes with others.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]Without a picture so I am going to just assume she is like all others. For 2 M, you can have 5 girls at 400 K each and have 5 shots. 400 K is already high.
[QUOTE=Omniscient;3048813]What hotel do you usually stay when bringing girls from El Centro? I'm wondering how far they are willing to travel on uber together.
[/QUOTE]It's better to just use a short time room first. The girl will take you.
[QUOTE=Omniscient;3048813]I'm wondering how far they are willing to travel on uber together.[/QUOTE]That is something you can find out yourself. Distance has not been a problem for me. I don't just pick any girl. Haha.
I found one in El Centro who is from Itagui that is at the south end of the city. She is a student and came to make some spending money after school. She has a curfew at 7 PM and I met her at 5:30 so we could not make arrangement that day.
I told her I would buy out all her time when she needs to make money in El Centro next time. A few days later, she contacted me before she arrived at El Centro and I sent a Uber to pick her up, by the time she needed to go home, I sent her in a Uber to El Centro.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]It's not a good price and more importantly, why would you want to commit that much time and money to a girl you've never even met before?
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]That seems extremely high. I would not do overnight with anyone until I have seen them a couple of times and have some level of trust.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048891]I find a daily 5 MG of Cialis work great to keep your game up. I usually take it after lunch. Plus it's cheaper (generic) in Medellin than Viagra. If I know there is a big night, a 2nd 5 MG before heading out work out great too. Sometimes I take an Aleve if I take two, since Aleve lasts 12 hours it makes sure I don't get a headache.
You have to remember, mentally (regardless of physical age), they're teenage kids. Not only do you have the fact that in Latin America no one ever stick to schedules or exact times, but on top of that, they're young and time management is not a skill they've learned. I always offer and get an Uber for them to come see me. I mean, yeah, it's kind of like an extra tip, but then I have clear tracking of when they're getting there. Plus, I've learned that if I need them to be somewhere specifically at a set time (like for a reservation), I don't tell them the time they need to be there. I tell them the time I need them to leave their house and when an Uber will be arriving to get them. Then I usually message them 30 minutes before to make sure that they're getting ready. I'm very polite, so the girls just take it as me giving them extra attention, but I stay on top of it. This has worked out for me pretty good in terms of making sure somebody is somewhere at the time I need them to be there.
But if I'm not watching a clock, like if I ask a girl to meet me for a beer and I know I'm going to be hanging out there for a while, then I just chill, say, hey, meet me at eight. But I know that she might not appear till nine. Now, I might still inquire along the way to make sure she's on course, but sometimes you just have to go with the local flow. And if they're not ready in time for me to order the Uber, then I just relax and say, hey, no problem, another day. The ones who are really, really wanting to see me will immediately rush and make it work, and the other ones will be like, okay, we'll do it another day. I usually have a plan be or see in my mind for these situations. After all, I'm the one on vacation, so I'm not going to get stressed over things.[/QUOTE]You described my M. O to the dot. Vast majority of the time I call Uber and be done with it but if I am busy in a meting or something sometimes, it can be pain to connect the teenager with the Uber driver. You get 5 donde estás, yo no vie, etc after being 5 min late to meet Uber. Ha ha.
You also made a good point about their time culture. Encontramos a las 5 PM is too general for them. Half of them assume that she leaves at 5 PM.
My fav line in your post which applies to almost everything in Medellin is. ' sometimes you have to go with the flow". They don't sweat the small stuff and any action without a consequence is small stuff for them. Like someone else correctly said, they don't miss flights or most trains. That is because it has a consequence.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048989]Without a picture so I am going to just assume she is like all others. For 2 M, you can have 5 girls at 400 K each and have 5 shots. 400 K is already high.[/QUOTE]How long is 5 shots though for time? Where I am from, it's the time not shots, the service is usually unlimited for the duration.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048682]You can do just that for the girls you just met. There is a difference between bed / sex time, and staying time. There is no reason to waste time and effort If all you want is bed time. Ideally, it's better to start with sex and end with sex, then do everything in between or after sex.
[/QUOTE]How do you tell them this? Do you pay a different amount for stay time versus bed time?
[QUOTE=Combo;3048998]It's not a good price and more importantly, why would you want to commit that much time and money to a girl you've never even met before?[/QUOTE]Is there an amount you can recommend? I just figured it's easier. $800 here gets you 2-3 hours so I figured it's a good deal.
[QUOTE=Giz99;3049036]That seems extremely high. I would not do overnight with anyone until I have seen them a couple of times and have some level of trust.[/QUOTE]Good point. Will take this into consideration. What's reasonable? I was using an online listing site so maybe the prices are higher.
[QUOTE=Omniscient;3048813]Also wondering how badly would an Asian tourist stand out walking around El Centro? I'm of Asian descent and visited Bogota before on a vanilla trip so did not partake. Although there weren't many other Asian tourists that I saw, it did not seem like the locals were surprised to see me. I honestly was expecting a second or two longer stares or the occasional "chino! Chino!" but perhaps all of that was happening behind my shoulders?[/QUOTE]You'll stand out but you won't. If anything, the way you dress and walk is what will make you stand out. If you're dressed like a local, no one will give you a second glance. If you're dressed like a tourist or passport bro, you'll get approached or catcalled down some of the streets. I think there are a couple of expats that hang out there are Asian.
I remember getting more attention for being Asian visiting Sosua, but this was some years ago.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3048891]I find a daily 5 MG of Cialis work great to keep your game up. I usually take it after lunch. Plus it's cheaper (generic) in Medellin than Viagra. If I know there is a big night, a 2nd 5 MG before heading out work out great too. Sometimes I take an Aleve if I take two, since Aleve lasts 12 hours it makes sure I don't get a headache.
You have to remember, mentally (regardless of physical age), they're teenage kids. Not only do you have the fact that in Latin America no one ever stick to schedules or exact times, but on top of that, they're young and time management is not a skill they've learned. I always offer and get an Uber for them to come see me. I mean, yeah, it's kind of like an extra tip, but then I have clear tracking of when they're getting there. Plus, I've learned that if I need them to be somewhere specifically at a set time (like for a reservation), I don't tell them the time they need to be there. I tell them the time I need them to leave their house and when an Uber will be arriving to get them. Then I usually message them 30 minutes before to make sure that they're getting ready. I'm very polite, so the girls just take it as me giving them extra attention, but I stay on top of it. This has worked out for me pretty good in terms of making sure somebody is somewhere at the time I need them to be there.
But if I'm not watching a clock, like if I ask a girl to meet me for a beer and I know I'm going to be hanging out there for a while, then I just chill, say, hey, meet me at eight. But I know that she might not appear till nine. Now, I might still inquire along the way to make sure she's on course, but sometimes you just have to go with the local flow. And if they're not ready in time for me to order the Uber, then I just relax and say, hey, no problem, another day. The ones who are really, really wanting to see me will immediately rush and make it work, and the other ones will be like, okay, we'll do it another day. I usually have a plan be or see in my mind for these situations. After all, I'm the one on vacation, so I'm not going to get stressed over things.[/QUOTE]That's great advice about Ubers, thanks a lot! But how does that work in practice, I reserve it on my name and when it arrives she has to give my name? Any other technical issues with doing that, I guess not if I'm paying them cash. Only problem is if she does something crazy it will affect my rating. Re. The Viagra alternatives I'll have to look into that. Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Coupe66;3049105]That's great advice about Ubers, thanks a lot! But how does that work in practice, I reserve it on my name and when it arrives she has to give my name? Any other technical issues with doing that, I guess not if I'm paying them cash. Only problem is if she does something crazy it will affect my rating. Re. The Viagra alternatives I'll have to look into that. Thanks again![/QUOTE]Uber has a feature, where you can order a car for somebody else in their name, but you pay and track it. You just need a name and their phone number, which I already have from WhatsApp-ing with them. I use the same feature when ordering them an Uber to send them home. There is always a risk when ordering an Uber that on the way home she tells a driver to go somewhere else and somewhere else, you know, extends it so it costs more. But you see it on the screen so you can bring it up with her if that happens. So far it's worked good for me.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]For $2 million I'd expect her to come out Friday and not leave until Monday, LOL.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3049116]Uber has a feature, where you can order a car for somebody else in their name, but you pay and track it. You just need a name and their phone number, which I already have from WhatsApp-ing with them. I use the same feature when ordering them an Uber to send them home. There is always a risk when ordering an Uber that on the way home she tells a driver to go somewhere else and somewhere else, you know, extends it so it costs more. But you see it on the screen so you can bring it up with her if that happens. So far it's worked good for me.[/QUOTE]I do exactly the same. You calling Uber also helps when girls have no data on their phones. Managing their own indrive app is a pain without data even if they have WiFi at home. (local app, popular among paisas) downside with indive. CC can't be loaded so you have to pay cash or trasferencia.
V told be about his date with W.
Be being a great wingman, so he shows V a lineup from G (1), G (2). G (100) and W is G (40) in the lineup.
The cost is represented by the index. G (1) costs 1 unit, and G (100) costs 100 units and is the most expensive.
[B]Game 1: [/B]
Condition:
V picks out 3 in the following that he considers to have the same quality as W. This is entirely based on V's perspective.
G (1), G (40), G (100).
Questions:
If you were V looking for W quality, who would you pick?
V-5 makes 5 times the money of V. If you were V-5 looking for W quality, who would you pick?
[B]Game 2: [/B]
Condition:
One more condition added to game 1.
Assume only G (30) to G (100) are available in Lleras, and you are only looking for W in Lleras.
Same questions as Game 1:
If you were V looking for W quality, who would you pick?
V-5 makes 5 times the money of V. If you were V-5 looking for W quality, who would you pick?
[B]Game 3: [/B]
Condition:
The quality is represented by the index. G (100) is the best. V defines what quality is.
You can only pick 1.
Questions:
3. 1. If you were V, who would you pick when the unit is 1. G (1) costs $1 while G (100) costs $100.
3. 2. Substitute V with V-5 in 1. Who would you pick.
3. 3. If you were V, who would you pick when the unit is 100. G (1) costs $50 while G (100) costs $5000.
3. 4. Substitute V with V-5 in 3. Who would you pick.
I don't expect any answer as this helps establish the context for my posts later.
[B]My answer: [/B]
I pick the optimal cost for game 1 and 2.
I would pick G (100) for 3. 1, 3. 2.
I am not sure what I would pick for 3. 3 and 3. 4 but I am certain 3. 4 (V-5) will have a wider selection than 3. 3 (V).
Game 1 and 2 is about getting more value with better information or access.
Game 3 is about bigger budget that can have more choice. My view is one can't determine price just like you can't determine the price of a business class ticket. The price is determined by others. All you can do is to set your budget and that budget will only buy you what fall in the price bracket.
I understand pay more to buy better quality. I don't get paying more to buy the same quality when enough information is available.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049042]How long is 5 shots though for time? Where I am from, it's the time not shots, the service is usually unlimited for the duration.[/QUOTE]I have described a base case here and it is the worst case scenario.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048988]Default is 1 shot if not specified. LLeras default is 1 hour. Centro is 30 minutes. Casa or bar often is from 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]The reality is it depends on the information and access you have. You are going to hear different answers here and they could all be right based on what they know.
An experienced person can get two shots for 2+ hours between 250 and 350 for a typical facebook girl. Let's assume 250 for 2 hours, than it is 1 M for 8 hours max.
A girl from Centro is 1 shot for 30 minutes so 1 hour will be 2 shots. If it is 50 K for 30 minutes, than it is 1 M for 10 hours for 20 shots. There is a range of the price but 70K should get you most of them.
When you get to multiple hours for the same girl, the price is very negotiable so it will be much less than 1 M. How low you can get depends on what you have access to. What I am saying is that if you can afford it, just choose the best you can get and not try to optimize it to get what others are getting. I personally don't offer overnight and what I pay won't be the price you can get. I don't like being a host to them for the extra work that I have to do. See my Value Game post.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049042]
How do you tell them this? Do you pay a different amount for stay time versus bed time?
[/QUOTE]I think most people don't. I don't and I don't negotiate time. I can get what I want at my price if the girl likes me. I know all the girls that I like very well. I have been to their home. I know some of their family. I got a 2 thumbs from a father of a girl in a video call. LOL. I have a pretty strong pull with the girls that I see often.
Stay time is the time she is with you. Bed time is the time that includes BJ, sex. Eating is not bed time. If you want multiple hours of bed time, then don't let stay time cut into it.
Look up posts by Nomars777. He is good.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3048625]Amorcitos would be dudes so either spend more time on Pimsleur or find a gay forum.[/QUOTE]Not true: amorcito as a term of endearment for a woman is perfectly acceptable, is the norm.
Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.
So, this is kind of funny, and kind of sad, being that I'm a mid-50's guy and should know better. That said, a note of caution for all my mongering colleagues.
Went to Medellin for the long MLK weekend, arriving Friday and leaving late afternoon Monday, usually a perfect weekend trip to get in, get some chicas done, and get out, with a few drinks and food in between. I had informed a few of my favorites that I'd be there, so I had 2 that booked me for Friday night.
A friend of mine let me know that a friend of his from Florida was in town and by himself, so I went to go meet him, walk Lleras, give him some pointers, and then we sat down in front of Lleras Town to watch the chica parade. By 11 PM, my 2 friends showed up and I got them some food and drinks and another mojito for me. At this point, I've had 2 and would have 1 more. I did leave my drink unattended while I ran to the bathroom, but considering the chicas I have been around several times before and this guy was a friend of a friend, I didn't think any harm would come from it.
Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.
First hour. Spectacular - like a rave / laser light show going on in my head while I fucked both of these girls, taking turns. Spectacular. At some point, I got really into the light show in my head, closed my eyes and fell asleep.
Second hour. Woke up to the darker skinned girl putting my socks and shoes on and saying, "Hey, we're at time, we have to go!" Ok, sure. Checked my watch and she was dead on, it was after 3 AM and we'd checked in about 1 AM-ish. At this point, things went south quickly. I seriously could NOT: stand, walk, think straight. In my brain I could put together sentences, but I could not actually spit them out. What I did spit out was a whole bunch of vomit, after I stopped somewhere along 10 and tossed every last thing I'd eaten and drunk in the last 6 hours. It was horrible.
We get to my hotel and the girl at the front desk is pissed because I'm obviously out of it and cannot even talk. We get to my room, it's clear the girls want money, which I do owe them, but I cannot find my money. I'm just that out of it. Unreal. In my head I'm thinking, "Hey, I know I owe you, let me sleep this off, and I'll get you tomorrow". They were NOT having it. Finally I find a card, stumble up the hill with the 2 of them, take out money (no excess, shockingly, and had all my change in the morning) and paid them, they dropped me back off to the hotel, whereupon I threw up some more in 2 open bathrooms on the way to my room and then in my bathroom.
Woke up about 4 hours later and could not sleep. I felt both terrible, for having put the girls and the front desk girl through my obvious impairment, but also just physically. Even more though, I kept thinking how fucking stupid I was and how if I had not been with 2 girls that were at least fairly well known to me, I would absolutely have been a sitting duck, open goal, clear target, whatever metaphor you want to use. I was completely incapacitated and would not have been able to resist anything or anyone.
The next day I met both girls, along with my friend's friend near Botero and gave them a little extra for their efforts in saving me, which I really do appreciate and they both related that Tussi is very strong and they had no idea I was a complete first timer, otherwise they would've suggested that I not do it.
All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!
Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again!
Of course, your mileage may vary, your experience may differ and no judgment on those who do partake, but as one of the taxi guys told me, "anything that goes up the nose, it's no good!" Yes, lesson learned!
Best of luck and happy mongering!
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3048969]I messaged a few girls for 24 h and they wanted $2 M COP for 24 h. Is that a good price?[/QUOTE]A possible reason she used that high figure is because that is what a ticket to the BB concert this last weekend cost.
If a girl likes you she goes easy but if a girl does not like you at all she give you a price like two million.
I wanted the lie flat seat which actually sucked with American Airlines because their 787 business has this fucking tray that tucks in front of you that is way too slow and keeps hitting your knees even if you slightly bend them when sleeping.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3048957]I'm guessing that your itinerary history trumped you "looking like the average white guy" and set off bells and whistles. LAX / MDE / MIA. GIG is not typical, especially the three hour flight north to go nine hours in the opposite direction. From Medellin via Bogota you can get direct flights to Rio on LATAM, GOL, or Avianca. Avianca sucks but you can use Copa miles. GOL is OK and they are affiliated with American Airlines' frequent flyer program. I'm glad it was only a minor inconvenience and look forward to reading your reports.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!
Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and taking responsiblity for your actions rather than be like some and try to blame someone else. I hope you still had enough fun to make your long weekend worthwhile.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3049246]Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.[/QUOTE]Comparing Medellin today to how it was during the pandemic is not really possible. You may want to consider reading up from this forum and seeing where current rates are at and how things work these days. In terms of finding apartments, I find last minute sometimes works better, as some people drop the rates because they haven't rented. But then again, some of my favorite apartments are only available three to six months out. So it all depends if you want a favorite place or if you want to find the best deal.
There are plenty of girls. Don't worry, you will be fine. I have no doubt you will get to do the Tony the Tiger roar here again.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3049246]Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]So, this is kind of funny, and kind of sad, being that I'm a mid-50's guy and should know better. That said, a note of caution for all my mongering colleagues.
Went to Medellin for the long MLK weekend, arriving Friday and leaving late afternoon Monday, usually a perfect weekend trip to get in, get some chicas done, and get out, with a few drinks and food in between. I had informed a few of my favorites that I'd be there, so I had 2 that booked me for Friday night.
A friend of mine let me know that a friend of his from Florida was in town and by himself, so I went to go meet him, walk Lleras, give him some pointers, and then we sat down in front of Lleras Town to watch the chica parade. By 11 PM, my 2 friends showed up and I got them some food and drinks and another mojito for me. At this point, I've had 2 and would have 1 more. I did leave my drink unattended while I ran to the bathroom, but considering the chicas I have been around several times before and this guy was a friend of a friend, I didn't think any harm would come from it.
Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.
First hour. Spectacular - like a rave / laser light show going on in my head while I fucked both of these girls, taking turns. Spectacular. At some point, I got really into the light show in my head, closed my eyes and fell asleep.
Second hour. Woke up to the darker skinned girl putting my socks and shoes on and saying, "Hey, we're at time, we have to go!" Ok, sure. Checked my watch and she was dead on, it was after 3 AM and we'd checked in about 1 AM-ish. At this point, things went south quickly. I seriously could NOT: stand, walk, think straight. In my brain I could put together sentences, but I could not actually spit them out. What I did spit out was a whole bunch of vomit, after I stopped somewhere along 10 and tossed every last thing I'd eaten and drunk in the last 6 hours. It was horrible.
We get to my hotel and the girl at the front desk is pissed because I'm obviously out of it and cannot even talk. We get to my room, it's clear the girls want money, which I do owe them, but I cannot find my money. I'm just that out of it. Unreal. In my head I'm thinking, "Hey, I know I owe you, let me sleep this off, and I'll get you tomorrow". They were NOT having it. Finally I find a card, stumble up the hill with the 2 of them, take out money (no excess, shockingly, and had all my change in the morning) and paid them, they dropped me back off to the hotel, whereupon I threw up some more in 2 open bathrooms on the way to my room and then in my bathroom.
Woke up about 4 hours later and could not sleep. I felt both terrible, for having put the girls and the front desk girl through my obvious impairment, but also just physically. Even more though, I kept thinking how fucking stupid I was and how if I had not been with 2 girls that were at least fairly well known to me, I would absolutely have been a sitting duck, open goal, clear target, whatever metaphor you want to use. I was completely incapacitated and would not have been able to resist anything or anyone.
The next day I met both girls, along with my friend's friend near Botero and gave them a little extra for their efforts in saving me, which I really do appreciate and they both related that Tussi is very strong and they had no idea I was a complete first timer, otherwise they would've suggested that I not do it.
All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!
Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again!
Of course, your mileage may vary, your experience may differ and no judgment on those who do partake, but as one of the taxi guys told me, "anything that goes up the nose, it's no good!" Yes, lesson learned!
Best of luck and happy mongering![/QUOTE]I'm 68 years old and hadn't done any kind of drug in thirty years until recently and I did tussi with a girl that I've known for a few years and we did it during several sessions and enjoyed it tremendously, especially the sex while indulging. I made sure to watch her do it first and then I did it out of the same bag that way I was sure that I wasn't going to get "scoped" or whatever. Apparently the trick is to do small amounts frequently like every hour. I have had no effects like you experienced, my guess is you did too much at once or they put something else in your drink. As much as I enjoyed the experience it is nothing that I plan on doing very regularly for all of the reasons we all know already. Say No To Drugs, LOL.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3049117]For $2 million I'd expect her to come out Friday and not leave until Monday, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have a model quality pornstar performer that I met on the Seeking app that I give $2.00.000 a month to and she comes to my place every four days and fucks my brains out no rules. My second "sugar baby" gets 1.200.000 a month and she is very pretty and also pornstar performer with no rules, I don't allow rules other than my own. The advantages of living here and willing to put in the work. Life is good.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3049246]Is 2 months long enough time to grab a decent apartment for 2 weeks? Seem like a ton of chicas available. Can I breach the norm and grab chicks for 100 k, 3 hrs. My last visit 2020. Gusto girl stayed with me a week for like nothing, I will always brag about that accomplishment LOL.[/QUOTE]Isn't 100 k like $30 USD at current rates? Am I missing something? I don't think that you'd get a random girl for 30 minutes at that price, let alone 3 hours. Then again, convincing a hot random girl fuck you for 1 week for free is God's work.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3049497]Isn't 100 k like $30 USD at current rates? Am I missing something? [/QUOTE]I remember it's one off. Near the end of pandemic.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250] It was horrible.[/QUOTE]This is likely to happen when you took the same quantity as them. It's a double-edged sword. You might not have experienced the high of the first hour if you didn't take enough but it ended up bad in your situation and you were lucky. This I think is quite common even to girls. A girl told me recently she was in the emergency room and almost died because she overdosed. There are different brands and some brands are much stronger. There is a well know brand and it is on google map as a pharmacy but there is only dealer and no pharmacy at the location. Haha.
The worst damage I have observed is the damage to their noses. They either sneeze often or have a running nose. One girl that is like my viagra would hide in the bathroom before sex just did her own thing there. She has a constant running nose. The waste basket would be filled with toilet papers after she left. One time I even found a needle on the floor
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]So, this is kind of funny, and kind of sad, being that I'm a mid-50's guy and should know better. That said, a note of caution for all my mongering colleagues.
Went to Medellin for the long MLK weekend, arriving Friday and leaving late afternoon Monday, usually a perfect weekend trip to get in, get some chicas done, and get out, with a few drinks and food in between. I had informed a few of my favorites that I'd be there, so I had 2 that booked me for Friday night.
A friend of mine let me know that a friend of his from Florida was in town and by himself, so I went to go meet him, walk Lleras, give him some pointers, and then we sat down in front of Lleras Town to watch the chica parade. By 11 PM, my 2 friends showed up and I got them some food and drinks and another mojito for me. At this point, I've had 2 and would have 1 more. I did leave my drink unattended while I ran to the bathroom, but considering the chicas I have been around several times before and this guy was a friend of a friend, I didn't think any harm would come from it.
Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.
First hour. Spectacular - like a rave / laser light show going on in my head while I fucked both of these girls, taking turns. Spectacular. At some point, I got really into the light show in my head, closed my eyes and fell asleep.
Second hour. Woke up to the darker skinned girl putting my socks and shoes on and saying, "Hey, we're at time, we have to go!" Ok, sure. Checked my watch and she was dead on, it was after 3 AM and we'd checked in about 1 AM-ish. At this point, things went south quickly. I seriously could NOT: stand, walk, think straight. In my brain I could put together sentences, but I could not actually spit them out. What I did spit out was a whole bunch of vomit, after I stopped somewhere along 10 and tossed every last thing I'd eaten and drunk in the last 6 hours. It was horrible.
We get to my hotel and the girl at the front desk is pissed because I'm obviously out of it and cannot even talk. We get to my room, it's clear the girls want money, which I do owe them, but I cannot find my money. I'm just that out of it. Unreal. In my head I'm thinking, "Hey, I know I owe you, let me sleep this off, and I'll get you tomorrow". They were NOT having it. Finally I find a card, stumble up the hill with the 2 of them, take out money (no excess, shockingly, and had all my change in the morning) and paid them, they dropped me back off to the hotel, whereupon I threw up some more in 2 open bathrooms on the way to my room and then in my bathroom.
Woke up about 4 hours later and could not sleep. I felt both terrible, for having put the girls and the front desk girl through my obvious impairment, but also just physically. Even more though, I kept thinking how fucking stupid I was and how if I had not been with 2 girls that were at least fairly well known to me, I would absolutely have been a sitting duck, open goal, clear target, whatever metaphor you want to use. I was completely incapacitated and would not have been able to resist anything or anyone.
The next day I met both girls, along with my friend's friend near Botero and gave them a little extra for their efforts in saving me, which I really do appreciate and they both related that Tussi is very strong and they had no idea I was a complete first timer, otherwise they would've suggested that I not do it.
All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!
Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again!
Of course, your mileage may vary, your experience may differ and no judgment on those who do partake, but as one of the taxi guys told me, "anything that goes up the nose, it's no good!" Yes, lesson learned!
Best of luck and happy mongering![/QUOTE]Well. Its pink cocaine. The effect depend of the dosage choose by the 'cook'. Its not a cook but a dealer mixing them in a bag or on a table.
Ketamine,
MDMA,
Methamphetamine.
Cocaine and fentanyl.
The cocain amount can be very low because its the most expensive part of the mix, you play russian roulette with your brain, health and life when you put this shit in your body. Not even talking about the possible short and long time psychological effects.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3049497]Isn't 100 k like $30 USD at current rates? Am I missing something? I don't think that you'd get a random girl for 30 minutes at that price, let alone 3 hours. Then again, convincing a hot random girl fuck you for 1 week for free is God's work.[/QUOTE]You can get hundreds of girls in Medellin for $50 K for 30 minutes, it is the standard price in El Centro,$13. Usd.
This is true. It's basically the same price as the Centro casas when you include the 10 k to 20 k for a hotel.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049612]You can get hundreds of girls in Medellin for $50 K for 30 minutes, it is the standard price in El Centro,$13. Usd.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;3049516]I remember it's one off. Near the end of pandemic.[/QUOTE]I came back to Medellin 2 months later. Covid was over, and she said papi I like the sex but I can't be staying with you all those hours for such little money. So she stayed for 2 hrs, we did a video, and I paid slightly below the base price, but much higher than previous time. I saw her in Gusto again and she made it a point to tell me she wanted to see me again. I always get one that like me but 2 weeks might be too short. I loved Brazil so I hope Medellin works out.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3049117]For $2 million I'd expect her to come out Friday and not leave until Monday, LOL.[/QUOTE]Good to know. All the ones I messaged online want over $1 m for 24 hours.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3049263]A possible reason she used that high figure is because that is what a ticket to the BB concert this last weekend cost.
If a girl likes you she goes easy but if a girl does not like you at all she give you a price like two million.[/QUOTE]Thanks good to know. I am only messaging them online right now.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049449]I have a model quality pornstar performer that I met on the Seeking app that I give $2.00.000 a month to and she comes to my place every four days and fucks my brains out no rules. My second "sugar baby" gets 1.200.000 a month and she is very pretty and also pornstar performer with no rules, I don't allow rules other than my own. The advantages of living here and willing to put in the work. Life is good.[/QUOTE]Do they stay 24 hours?
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049854]Good to know. All the ones I messaged online want over $1 m for 24 hours.
Thanks good to know. I am only messaging them online right now.
Do they stay 24 hours?[/QUOTE]Why are you trying to get chicks from online to stay with you for 24 hours? You may get together and have no chemistry, then you are on the hook for all that money. If you were in person, then it would be okay, but doing it half blind seems like a horrible idea.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049854]want over $1 m for 24 hours.
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Do they stay 24 hours?[/QUOTE]I treat this as a multi-step process. It's better to start small. Get them for a short date to use it as an interview process for the longer date. I tolerate restrictions on the first date but I don't accept any restrictions or holding back on later dates. My requirement is basic, nothing unusual. I know I get better outcome this way. I cut my small lose and move on to the next one. If you like her and she likes you, you are going to have a better outcome.
Everyone is telling you that you have to crawl before you can walk.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3049854]
Do they stay 24 hours?[/QUOTE]Hell no, I don't want a chica hanging with me for 24 hours, why? I'm 68 years old and they are in their early 20's,we would both go out of our minds after about four hours. The longest date with me is when we go out on the town or to a nice restaurant maybe once or twice a month. I pay them for sex and occasionally as a companion to go out with and that's it. Both of my girls have real jobs during the day and go to university at night three nights a week, they are not full time working girls so their availability to stay 24 hours would be very limited but I don't want that anyway.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049979]Hell no, I don't want a chica hanging with me for 24 hours, why? I'm 68 years old and they are in their early 20's,we would both go out of our minds after about four hours. The longest date with me is when we go out on the town or to a nice restaurant maybe once or twice a month. I pay them for sex and occasionally as a companion to go out with and that's it. Both of my girls have real jobs during the day and go to university at night three nights a week, they are not full time working girls so their availability to stay 24 hours would be very limited but I don't want that anyway.[/QUOTE]I love talking with womens, but talking to a prosititute for too long and bringing her to restaurant. Its her job. I don't feeel speciall when my coworker arr comming to a diner for the job, its a part of their job and the talking are usually boring. Most working girls are going to be good enough to look interested by the talking but most of time they are obviously on a timer, not mentionning that most girls who are doing this job arent the sharpest tool in the shed so the discusion are becoming very boring quickly.
All the chicas said prices got raised at the beginning of the year due to "inflation".
Chicas are now charging $50 k, although a few still offered me last summer's rate of $40 k most were at $50 k.
Room used to be $10-12 k, it's now $20 k, period.
So plan for $50+20 k = $70 k / $3.5 k per USD at the current crap exchange rate and that's $20 USD on the nose.
2023-2024-2025 this was closer to $12-15 USD, but honestly $20 USD is just stupid cheap. As I told my buddy's friend Botero / el centro is both bad and good.
Bad in the sense that most girls are not very attractive (in my opinion probably 4's and 5's, with a few 6's and 7's sprinkled in if you are patient or walk the zone and sift for gold).
Good in the sense that you can test drive them for 20-30 minutes before you commit to paying more. He took a cute 6 up to the room in Botero Real and confirmed this was true. Rode him like a champ, nice and wet, good moaning and performance, all for $20 USD. Gone for 30 minutes. He was pleased enough to think about offering to have her come to his Airbnb for an extended session, which she offered him a good rate on. Something like $200 k for 2-3 hours. I don't think he pulled the trigger on that though.
As I always say, I like el centro for exactly this, it's like a buffet, you can sample anything that catches your eye, it doesn't cost much so if the experience is not ideal, you're out very little, so no big deal.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049612]You can get hundreds of girls in Medellin for $50 K for 30 minutes, it is the standard price in El Centro,$13. Usd.[/QUOTE]
Your summary roundup is officially Centro rat approved. I confirm everything you wrote. It's worth noting that the Plaza Botero rates have caught up with the Centro casa rate (70 k to 80 k all in). The casas are now my Centro go to with Botero sifted in to keep in fresh. Plaza Botero is still fun when you have time to spare.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3050006]All the chicas said prices got raised at the beginning of the year due to "inflation".
Chicas are now charging $50 k, although a few still offered me last summer's rate of $40 k most were at $50 k.
Room used to be $10-12 k, it's now $20 k, period.
So plan for $50+20 k = $70 k / $3.5 k per USD at the current crap exchange rate and that's $20 USD on the nose.
2023-2024-2025 this was closer to $12-15 USD, but honestly $20 USD is just stupid cheap. As I told my buddy's friend Botero / el centro is both bad and good.
Bad in the sense that most girls are not very attractive (in my opinion probably 4's and 5's, with a few 6's and 7's sprinkled in if you are patient or walk the zone and sift for gold)..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3050006]All the chicas said prices got raised at the beginning of the year due to "inflation".
Chicas are now charging $50 k, although a few still offered me last summer's rate of $40 k most were at $50 k.
Room used to be $10-12 k, it's now $20 k, period.
So plan for $50+20 k = $70 k / $3.5 k per USD at the current crap exchange rate and that's $20 USD on the nose.
2023-2024-2025 this was closer to $12-15 USD, but honestly $20 USD is just stupid cheap. As I told my buddy's friend Botero / el centro is both bad and good.
Bad in the sense that most girls are not very attractive (in my opinion probably 4's and 5's, with a few 6's and 7's sprinkled in if you are patient or walk the zone and sift for gold)..[/QUOTE]If you are there at the right time you see some the hottest women you'll ever see. I see women wearing pleated tennis skirts without underwear.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3049891]I treat this as a multi-step process. It's better to start small. Get them for a short date to use it as an interview process for the longer date. I tolerate restrictions on the first date but I don't accept any restrictions or holding back on later dates. My requirement is basic, nothing unusual. I know I get better outcome this way. I cut my small lose and move on to the next one. If you like her and she likes you, you are going to have a better outcome.
Everyone is telling you that you have to crawl before you can walk.[/QUOTE]For God sakes, please follow this advice and do a short 1 hour session first to test drive the chick. Why would you commit to that much time and money w / o having an idea of how you interact.
[QUOTE=Combo;3050025]For God sakes, please follow this advice and do a short 1 hour session first to test drive the chick. Why would you commit to that much time and money w / o having an idea of how you interact.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I just figured it would be easier. I was planning 1 hour and if it's fine do 24 hour. $2 m (COP)/$500 usd is about 2 hours here so it's not that much money but I like ideas here. Just wanted to know if $2 m was a good price for 24 h.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050001]I love talking with womens, but talking to a prosititute for too long and bringing her to restaurant. Its her job. I don't feeel speciall when my coworker arr comming to a diner for the job, its a part of their job and the talking are usually boring. Most working girls are going to be good enough to look interested by the talking but most of time they are obviously on a timer, not mentionning that most girls who are doing this job arent the sharpest tool in the shed so the discusion are becoming very boring quickly.[/QUOTE]Making a lot of sense. I don't speak Spanish either.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049979]Hell no, I don't want a chica hanging with me for 24 hours, why? I'm 68 years old and they are in their early 20's,we would both go out of our minds after about four hours. The longest date with me is when we go out on the town or to a nice restaurant maybe once or twice a month. I pay them for sex and occasionally as a companion to go out with and that's it. Both of my girls have real jobs during the day and go to university at night three nights a week, they are not full time working girls so their availability to stay 24 hours would be very limited but I don't want that anyway.[/QUOTE]Makes sense.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049884]Why are you trying to get chicks from online to stay with you for 24 hours? You may get together and have no chemistry, then you are on the hook for all that money. If you were in person, then it would be okay, but doing it half blind seems like a horrible idea.[/QUOTE]I was thinking 1 hour but get an idea for 24 hours pricing. Just wanted to know if $2 m was a good price for 24 h.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3049979]Hell no, I don't want a chica hanging with me for 24 hours, why? I'm 68 years old and they are in their early 20's,we would both go out of our minds after about four hours. The longest date with me is when we go out on the town or to a nice restaurant maybe once or twice a month. I pay them for sex and occasionally as a companion to go out with and that's it. Both of my girls have real jobs during the day and go to university at night three nights a week, they are not full time working girls so their availability to stay 24 hours would be very limited but I don't want that anyway.[/QUOTE]You make several good points. He must be a younger guy because I am younger than you but there's no need for a 24 hour visit. I don't do outings like dinner but I get a nice Airbnb and we watch some Netflix and hit the sack.
I have found that if you have seen them more than once and have nice comfy apartment they are willing to stay longer and without extra "charges. " I kind of prefer chicas with jobs because it keeps them busy. Otherwise, they will bug you all day long.
I learned this years ago but I pay the women to leave.
[QUOTE=Marckj1;3050036]$2 m (COP)/$500 usd is about 2 hours here so it's not that much money. I was thinking 1 hour but get an idea for 24 hours pricing. Just wanted to know if $2 m was a good price for 24 h.[/QUOTE]It is Colombia. It [B]is[/B] that much money. Where you are has nothing to do with nothing. I was in Colombia twice in the past 2 months Both times together I did not spend 2 million pesos.
Hookers are for fucking. If you are not fucking her 24 hours, why are you keeping her around? Some people talk about a cost per fuck. I guess it makes sense to figure in a case like yours. You are going to fuck the same chick 2 or 3 times in that 24 hours. You can even say 4 times, which would be $136 each time. Look at it this way: If you met her in another venue such as Gusto's or Fase 2, would you go back to that place 4 times in 1 day and pay $136 each time to fuck that same chick? I am a variety guy myself. If I am spending that much money, then it surely would not be for one chick.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]So, this is kind of funny, and kind of sad, being that I'm a mid-50's guy and should know better. That said, a note of caution for all my mongering colleagues.
Went to Medellin for the long MLK weekend, arriving Friday and leaving late afternoon Monday, usually a perfect weekend trip to get in, get some chicas done, and get out, with a few drinks and food in between. I had informed a few of my favorites that I'd be there, so I had 2 that booked me for Friday night.
A friend of mine let me know that a friend of his from Florida was in town and by himself, so I went to go meet him, walk Lleras, give him some pointers, and then we sat down in front of Lleras Town to watch the chica parade. By 11 PM, my 2 friends showed up and I got them some food and drinks and another mojito for me. At this point, I've had 2 and would have 1 more. I did leave my drink unattended while I ran to the bathroom, but considering the chicas I have been around several times before and this guy was a friend of a friend, I didn't think any harm would come from it.
Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.
First hour. Spectacular - like a rave / laser light show going on in my head while I fucked both of these girls, taking turns. Spectacular. At some point, I got really into the light show in my head, closed my eyes and fell asleep.
Second hour. Woke up to the darker skinned girl putting my socks and shoes on and saying, "Hey, we're at time, we have to go!" Ok, sure. Checked my watch and she was dead on, it was after 3 AM and we'd checked in about 1 AM-ish. At this point, things went south quickly. I seriously could NOT: stand, walk, think straight. In my brain I could put together sentences, but I could not actually spit them out. What I did spit out was a whole bunch of vomit, after I stopped somewhere along 10 and tossed every last thing I'd eaten and drunk in the last 6 hours. It was horrible.
We get to my hotel and the girl at the front desk is pissed because I'm obviously out of it and cannot even talk. We get to my room, it's clear the girls want money, which I do owe them, but I cannot find my money. I'm just that out of it. Unreal. In my head I'm thinking, "Hey, I know I owe you, let me sleep this off, and I'll get you tomorrow". They were NOT having it. Finally I find a card, stumble up the hill with the 2 of them, take out money (no excess, shockingly, and had all my change in the morning) and paid them, they dropped me back off to the hotel, whereupon I threw up some more in 2 open bathrooms on the way to my room and then in my bathroom.
Woke up about 4 hours later and could not sleep. I felt both terrible, for having put the girls and the front desk girl through my obvious impairment, but also just physically. Even more though, I kept thinking how fucking stupid I was and how if I had not been with 2 girls that were at least fairly well known to me, I would absolutely have been a sitting duck, open goal, clear target, whatever metaphor you want to use. I was completely incapacitated and would not have been able to resist anything or anyone.
The next day I met both girls, along with my friend's friend near Botero and gave them a little extra for their efforts in saving me, which I really do appreciate and they both related that Tussi is very strong and they had no idea I was a complete first timer, otherwise they would've suggested that I not do it.
All that to say, in the words of the South Park character Mr. Mackey: "Don't do drugs kids, drugs are bad, mkay!
Even still, sex with the 2 while under the effects for the first 30-45 minutes was quite interesting, but not interesting enough for me to try it again!
Of course, your mileage may vary, your experience may differ and no judgment on those who do partake, but as one of the taxi guys told me, "anything that goes up the nose, it's no good!" Yes, lesson learned!
Best of luck and happy mongering![/QUOTE]I am sure you have read what mix is has LOL. What people do when they feel out of it, they take coke at the end of it to counter the effects. If you are in the same situation again, coke would help.
Tussi is mainly Ketamine and Ectasy, and smaller % of coke, meth, and dunno what else they cut it with. I'd stay away from it LOL /. At least, you didn't wake up on the rooftop like in the Hangover movie LOL.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3050023]If you are there at the right time you see some the hottest women you'll ever see. I see women wearing pleated tennis skirts without underwear.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt that but beauty is very subjective. El Centro is known for the lowest prices so it would be strange for the hottest women to want to work in El Centro for those rates. You will definitely see some of the ugliest looking girls working in the industry in El Centro because if you can't make it anywhere else, you have to go to El Centro. I don't think anyone would disagree that you will find some of the worse looking girls in El Centro. I guess it is possible to find some gems here and there in El Centro if you spend enough time there but I think the best you will find are above looking girls in the 6-7 range.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3050017]Your summary roundup is officially Centro rat approved. I confirm everything you wrote. It's worth noting that the Plaza Botero rates have caught up with the Centro casa rate (70 k to 80 k all in). The casas are now my Centro go to with Botero sifted in to keep in fresh. Plaza Botero is still fun when you have time to spare.[/QUOTE]I'm heading down Friday for a 10-day trip. I'm familiar with New Life, Conejitas, and Bara Executiva. Any other good Centro casas or bars I should have on my list? Thanks.
In no particular order, the other Centro casas that are currently active with reasonable quality are Zandaly, Amigas Sexxy, and Aiffe. Special wave off to the joint on carrera 45 just north of calle 57 (midway between Aiffe and Amigas Sexxy) that's on the second floor like Amigas Sexxy. It's one of the old line spots and it's always been extra grungy with generally poor quality. The last time I was in there about a year ago the manager was insistent about a viewing fee if I didn't pull the trigger. I trusted my instincts that it was a red flag that she didn't think I would want to go with anyone available. I gave her a quick thanks but no thanks and kicked rocks.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3050119]I'm heading down Friday for a 10-day trip. I'm familiar with New Life, Conejitas, and Bara Executiva. Any other good Centro casas or bars I should have on my list? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3050114]I seriously doubt that but beauty is very subjective. El Centro is known for the lowest prices so it would be strange for the hottest women to want to work in El Centro for those rates. You will definitely see some of the ugliest looking girls working in the industry in El Centro because if you can't make it anywhere else, you have to go to El Centro. I don't think anyone would disagree that you will find some of the worse looking girls in El Centro. I guess it is possible to find some gems here and there in El Centro if you spend enough time there but I think the best you will find are above looking girls in the 6-7 range.[/QUOTE]I am a regular in el centro and you are only partially correct. It is true that the majority of the working girls in el centro are below average but there are diamonds in the rough especially later on because a few of the Parque Lleras girls work el centro prior to hitting the pavement in Lleras because the busier times in El Centro are early evening and the busy time for Lleras is later.
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3049250]Come back, have my final mojito and the chicas and I went to my hotel. They said that since I'd only reserved for 2 people, I could bring in 1 of the 2, but not both. Ok, so we headed to short term Hotel 6 right on Calle 10 a couple of blocks up the hill. Checked in, they had some beers, and then they did their 2 C / Tussi. They offered me some and I said, "What the hell, sure". So, who knows exactly what combination of stuff hit me, but I had the absolute best (kinda) and worst night of my life over the next 2 hours.
[/QUOTE]Yikes, well, you kept your shoes and both kidneys so you're okay. You must be really comfortable, that seems risky for Medellin. Or anywhere for that matter.
I keep reading about the risk of spiked drinks, and you pretty much spike yourself. Glad you made it out okay.
Any casa's or strip clubs in Sabaneta, Itagui, or envisage? Staying in Sabaneta for the week. Any help appreciated.
Its extremely annoying texting with Colombia chicas and they inquire do you want to pay for pics, video, contents. I want to pay 4 p**sy I can physically touch not imagine, wish, view from afar. I guest this is in large demand. I guess guys who participate don't know how it affects the game. If I can sit at home and make money, then why take the risk of coming outdoors to make money. I guess I will continue to say no thanks.
[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3044322]My experiences with dedicated websites aren't bad. Overall, they probably involve the least amount of drama and offer the prettiest women for their rate.
Tinder and Bumble have produced the most drama. There are a lot of chicas who will go silent when propositioned. It's safe to say that if you're a foreigner, they either want dinners, drinks, trips, gifts, cash, or to rob you. It's very unlikely that a hot paisa is on there looking for a fling with no strings attachedI know it does happen sometimes. There are chicas there looking for a real boyfriend.
Many of them will play the girlfriend angle first and accept dinner invitations. They will avoid sex until you offer money. These types might be willing to go on multiple dates and string you along indefinitely.
A direct proposition of cash weeds these types of dabblers out. Be careful if her price seems "off" or a "great deal."
Some of them will say they aren't a prepago, but they will do it for some high rate. I truly believe they believe themselves. They may not be a prepago, but they are very similar to the Facebook types from years past.
I would not allow them inside my apartment first time. A lot of guys do. Before I host someone at home, I get ID, social media, home address, workplace, schoolall of it. It's too easy to get drugged now. They know the police won't help foreigners.
If you let one sleep over, plan on her checking your phone for a biometric unlock while you sleep, or rifling through closets and the kitchen.
The scam is to build trust and collect info, then hit the guy for everything after he thinks it's true love.
The centro scene outside of the usual casas and discosI assume streetwalkers.
The hotter ones in Plaza Botero that I've found were just walking around. They were dressed a little better than the ones leaning out of the short-term hotel entrances in booty shorts and a tube top. Sometimes I can't tell if she's working unless she smiles and makes eye contact. There's very little time for hesitation.
The Veracruz chicas come out by 9 am And steadily increase as time goes by. Most want 50 to 100 mil. The short-term room is 30 to 40 mil. After one session in the STH, some are willing to travel to your placejust pay their taxi and normal rate.
Beware: There are a lot of minors working this area, and Medellin is looking to make examples out of foreigners lately. They all have fake IDs too. Avoid at all costs.[/QUOTE]I frequent Tijuana, and nowhere else much to say about. Been to Asia Thailand, did not like it. What I love about Tijuana is the strip clubs provide a party atmosphere 24/7 (mostly) so Johns and escorts mingle. Chat, dance, drink, grope, kiss, grind and then they can move up to the rooms if they wanted. This is something I wouldn't want to replace for anything.
I don't read you guys in this Forum talk about such venues in Medellin or Bogota, or maybe I did not look deep enough. Can you impart some wisdom on this? Are there affordable strip clubs or brothels as such? Or the German FKK types? Tijuana has massage parlors but they do kind of suck, they are very expensive and the women are not much to write home about.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3050197]I frequent Tijuana, and nowhere else much to say about. Been to Asia Thailand, did not like it. What I love about Tijuana is the strip clubs provide a party atmosphere 24/7 (mostly) so Johns and escorts mingle. Chat, dance, drink, grope, kiss, grind and then they can move up to the rooms if they wanted. This is something I wouldn't want to replace for anything.[/QUOTE]So what did you not like about Thailand? In Pattaya there are 100 places like what you described (and it cost $30 to fuck), while in Tijuana there are only 3 (and they want over $100 to fuck).
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3050197]I don't read you guys in this Forum talk about such venues in Medellin or Bogota, or maybe I did not look deep enough. Can you impart some wisdom on this? Are there affordable strip clubs or brothels as such?[/QUOTE]Or you are possibly looking too deep because Vern just mentioned some a few posts down.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3050119]I'm heading down Friday for a 10-day trip. I'm familiar with New Life, [b]Conejitas, and Bara Executiva[/b]. Any other good Centro casas or bars I should have on my list? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3050208]So what did you not like about Thailand? In Pattaya there are 100 places like what you described (and it cost $30 to fuck), while in Tijuana there are only 3 (and they want over $100 to fuck).
Or you are possibly looking too deep because Vern just mentioned some a few posts down.[/QUOTE]Yes, Tijuana is becoming ridiculously expensive, reason why I am looking to venture out and explore some other areas. Thailand just not my thing, let's just say I am more attracted to Latinas. If MDN has affordable strip clubs like that you find in Tijuana, I am willing to risk it (given all the negative stories we hear everywhere these days) Just wanted to hear it from you seasoned gringos who know the place well.
I am reading about these places, thanks for the pointer. "New Life, Conejitas, and Bara Executiva"
[QUOTE=Blakman;3050188]Its extremely annoying texting with Colombia chicas and they inquire do you want to pay for pics, video, contents. I want to pay 4 p**sy I can physically touch not imagine, wish, view from afar. I guest this is in large demand. I guess guys who participate don't know how it affects the game. If I can sit at home and make money, then why take the risk of coming outdoors to make money. I guess I will continue to say no thanks.[/QUOTE]There are a lot more guys not in Medellin than in Medellin so it makes sense that a girl would want to try to sell pictures and videos. For those guys, meeting in person is not an option so interactive video calling is the next best thing. How it affects the game is not something that other guys normally care about, nor should they. I don't blame the girls for trying to make money. They usually do both.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3050127]In no particular order, the other Centro casas that are currently active with reasonable quality are Zandaly, Amigas Sexxy, and Aiffe. Special wave off to the joint on carrera 45 just north of calle 57 (midway between Aiffe and Amigas Sexxy) that's on the second floor like Amigas Sexxy. It's one of the old line spots and it's always been extra grungy with generally poor quality. The last time I was in there about a year ago the manager was insistent about a viewing fee if I didn't pull the trigger. I trusted my instincts that it was a red flag that she didn't think I would want to go with anyone available. I gave her a quick thanks but no thanks and kicked rocks.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking that's casa Pamela. I went there in May last year and the mamasan (late 30's?) promised me a once in a lifetime BBBJ at no extra cost which I could not refuse, and she honored her promise.
You are right. It's one of the few places that hasn't had a name change in nearly 15 years. Based on our report maybe I should pop in there and see what's up.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3050294]I'm thinking that's casa Pamela. I went there in May last year and the mamasan (late 30's?) promised me a once in a lifetime BBBJ at no extra cost which I could not refuse, and she honored her promise.[/QUOTE]
This is a no. If you can change your reservation you should consider it because you will spend a good amount of time commuting through daily traffic jams to reach any venues.
[QUOTE=SoulCust;3050167]Any casa's or strip clubs in Sabaneta, Itagui, or envisage? Staying in Sabaneta for the week. Any help appreciated.[/QUOTE]
You said a mouthful about employed vs unemployed girls. The jobless girls can be absolutely relentless. Besides obvious money motivation, I think the frequent poking is also a way for them to stave off boredom.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3050057]You make several good points. He must be a younger guy because I am younger than you but there's no need for a 24 hour visit. I don't do outings like dinner but I get a nice Airbnb and we watch some Netflix and hit the sack.
I have found that if you have seen them more than once and have nice comfy apartment they are willing to stay longer and without extra "charges. " I kind of prefer chicas with jobs because it keeps them busy. Otherwise, they will bug you all day long.
I learned this years ago but I pay the women to leave.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3050006]All the chicas said prices got raised at the beginning of the year due to "inflation".
Chicas are now charging $50 k, although a few still offered me last summer's rate of $40 k most were at $50 k.
Room used to be $10-12 k, it's now $20 k, period.
So plan for $50+20 k = $70 k / $3.5 k per USD at the current crap exchange rate and that's $20 USD on the nose.
2023-2024-2025 this was closer to $12-15 USD, but honestly $20 USD is just stupid cheap. As I told my buddy's friend Botero / el centro is both bad and good.
Bad in the sense that most girls are not very attractive (in my opinion probably 4's and 5's, with a few 6's and 7's sprinkled in if you are patient or walk the zone and sift for gold).[/QUOTE]I'll be there again myself soon enough to confirm and report back. But what's happening is as of January 1st this year, the government raised their minimum wage by 24%. Probably "inflation" yeah, but possibly political reasons as well. Not to get political here, but their president is very unpopular and this is his last year in office, so maybe part of the reason is as an attempt to appease people and keep his party in power. Petro is Colombia's first overtly left wing president. Presidents can't serve more than one term in Colombia, but someone else in his party can. This extreme of a wage hike is inflationary though. Unfortunately, I can see prices for regular things (hotels, food, taxis, etc) increasing as well, in addition to the girls. The hotel I booked for this upcoming spring was definitely significantly (percentage-wise) more expensive than the last time I went just a few months ago. Remember to do what you can to (not) overpay the girls though, this is the type of thing that can (over time) possibly ruin the bargain prices that bring us here in the first place. Look at what happened in Costa Rica as an example. The prices were cheap and then shot up in a fairly short amount of time, now it's nowhere near as popular / affordable to go.
One effect I'm curious to see of the wage hikes is on employment. I'm hearing people are getting laid off or fired because businesses can't afford to pay their employees this new minimum wage all of a sudden. Over time I'm sure it will adjust, but I want to see what happens as a result in the short and medium term, and see how it affects the number of girls working. There's also the capture of Maduro to consider. Theoretically, as things in Venezuela get less crazy over time, I would imagine a lot of the girls (since realistically the majority or at least half are Venezuelan girls who came to escape the Venezuelan dictatorship and then undercut the Colombian girls' prices out of desperation to make money) are eventually going to go back home. Reduction in "supply" with the same or increased "demand" causes increases in prices over time. Things change fast in Latin America. Contacts that I have in other Colombian cities are already telling me some Venezuelans are already slowly starting to go back. If anyone there on the ground has any more information, please share.
"As of January 1, 2026, the Colombian government has set the monthly statutory minimum wage (SMLMV) at COP 1,750,905. Including a mandatory transportation subsidy of COP 249,095, the total monthly compensation for workers is COP 2,000,000, representing a significant 23.7% increase aimed at boosting purchasing power, according to reports. "
[QUOTE=JamesDoe;3050325]I'll be there again myself soon enough to confirm and report back. But what's happening is as of January 1st this year, the government raised their minimum wage by 24%. Probably "inflation" yeah, but possibly political reasons as well. Not to get political here, but their president is very unpopular and this is his last year in office, so maybe part of the reason is as an attempt to appease people and keep his party in power. Petro is Colombia's first overtly left wing president. Presidents can't serve more than one term in Colombia, but someone else in his party can. This extreme of a wage hike is inflationary though. Unfortunately, I can see prices for regular things (hotels, food, taxis, etc) increasing as well, in addition to the girls. The hotel I booked for this upcoming spring was definitely significantly (percentage-wise) more expensive than the last time I went just a few months ago. Remember to do what you can to (not) overpay the girls though, this is the type of thing that can (over time) possibly ruin the bargain prices that bring us here in the first place. Look at what happened in Costa Rica as an example. The prices were cheap and then shot up in a fairly short amount of time, now it's nowhere near as popular / affordable to go.[/QUOTE]It is really the weakening USA Dollar worldwide for Americans that is more significant than inflation. The USA Dollar has weakened significantly against the Colombian peso over the past year from 4000 to below 3700 pesos and I find this more significant than any inflation. Girls don't act together as a cohesive whole. Each girl is different. For the most part, the girls that I have been seeing have not asked for more. It is the same prices as I have paid for the past two years for most of the girls but they are a few that have asked for more. But due to weakening USA Dollar, I am paying more.
"Remember to do what you can to (not) overpay the girls though". I really don't think a worldwide conspiracy among mongering men to pay girls a certain amount is going to work. Guys like to tell other strangers this but it is fantasy to think that it will ever work. Guys will pay what they want to pay and they are not going to listen to some anonymous stranger. Also if everyone conspires to pay X, the guy who pays X plus a few pesos more, will get all the girls. He could care less about the brotherhood of mongers and their aspirations to hold prices down.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3050391]It is really the weakening USA Dollar worldwide for Americans that is more significant than inflation. The USA Dollar has weakened significantly against the Colombian peso over the past year from 4000 to below 3700 pesos and I find this more significant than any inflation. Girls don't act together as a cohesive whole. Each girl is different. For the most part, the girls that I have been seeing have not asked for more. It is the same prices as I have paid for the past two years for most of the girls but they are a few that have asked for more. But due to weakening USA Dollar, I am paying more.
"Remember to do what you can to (not) overpay the girls though". I really don't think a worldwide conspiracy among mongering men to pay girls a certain amount is going to work. Guys like to tell other strangers this but it is fantasy to think that it will ever work. Guys will pay what they want to pay and they are not going to listen to some anonymous stranger. Also if everyone conspires to pay X, the guy who pays X plus a few pesos more, will get all the girls. He could care less about the brotherhood of mongers and their aspirations to hold prices down.[/QUOTE]That's good insight, thanks for the info. Yeah, I noticed the USD weakening against the COP as well. I'm going back soon and am trying to time when to order my pesos. It spiked all the way down to 3,533 on January 25th. It's on a slight uptrend over the past week though, and right now it's at 3,702. So (even though it's down 10% overall), I might buy double the usual to get this trip and possibly the next at this exchange rate and then wait to see what happens.
They don't act as a cohesive group, but they "kinda" do in Centro at least from what I've seen. I was talking to the girls a few years ago when the price slightly increased to what they are now, and they were all saying the same price. Of course you can always try to negotiate and sometimes I've successfully done that, but word seems to get around to ask (at least initially) for the same price. Then some girls who think they're hot shit ask for more and don't easily budge.
Fair point. I know some guys are always going to overpay, but I hope maybe I can put it one or two guys' heads to not do it LOL. I've definitely taken good advice from you guys since joining the forum.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3050391]It is really the weakening USA Dollar worldwide for Americans that is more significant than inflation. The USA Dollar has weakened significantly against the Colombian peso over the past year from 4000 to below 3700 pesos and I find this more significant than any inflation. Girls don't act together as a cohesive whole. Each girl is different. For the most part, the girls that I have been seeing have not asked for more. It is the same prices as I have paid for the past two years for most of the girls but they are a few that have asked for more. But due to weakening USA Dollar, I am paying more.
"Remember to do what you can to (not) overpay the girls though". I really don't think a worldwide conspiracy among mongering men to pay girls a certain amount is going to work. Guys like to tell other strangers this but it is fantasy to think that it will ever work. Guys will pay what they want to pay and they are not going to listen to some anonymous stranger. Also if everyone conspires to pay X, the guy who pays X plus a few pesos more, will get all the girls. He could care less about the brotherhood of mongers and their aspirations to hold prices down.[/QUOTE]The first US Americans who will feel this general lasting downward move of the US dollar is US international Mongers.
Telling mongers not to pay unnecessary high amount to working girls is futile. One group that made the prices to go ridiculously high in Tijuana is the rowdy young professional crowd that fill up the Red Zone in the weekends. Price was about $80/30 for the longest time, drinks about $8 to $9, rooms about $20. Now it is normal to see guys spending money on the girls as high as $500/2hrs, that is drinks in the clubs, $11 for a glass of water, $15 cocktails to $30 for small bottle of wine, and then sex in the short rooms. These guys come in groups from SD and LA and just go out of control. Now the long time frequenter who is semi retired is being priced out.
Remember, Colombia is still affordable, got to get your things going before it becomes too expensive.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3050391]It is really the weakening USA Dollar worldwide for Americans that is more significant than inflation.[/QUOTE]At the start of 2025, for a Dollar I could get 91 cents in Euros. As of the start of 2026, I've seen it as low as only 84 cents in Euros for a Dollar. This all adds up and hurts! The Dollar is still doing well against the Brazilian Real, but it costs more and more and more to monger in Europe!
[QUOTE=JamesDoe;3050325]I'll be there again myself soon enough to confirm and report back. But what's happening is as of January 1st this year, the government raised their minimum wage by 24%. Probably "inflation" yeah, but possibly political reasons as well. Not to get political here, but their president is very unpopular and this is his last year in office, so maybe part of the reason is as an attempt
"As of January 1, 2026, the Colombian government has set the monthly statutory minimum wage (SMLMV) at COP 1,750,905. Including a mandatory transportation subsidy of COP 249,095, the total monthly compensation for workers is COP 2,000,000, representing a significant 23.7% increase aimed at boosting purchasing power, according to reports. "[/QUOTE]FWIW a not insignificant % of the public in Colombia works for less than minimum wage. Ie off the books. It's likely this move only increases that %.
It's crazy, but a lot of Colombians are actually happy to get a minimum wage job.
It's no wonder you have Colombian men who are willing to go to Ukraine as mercenaries and risk everything to make $3,000 USD a month. It's a fortune for them (or for their family if they die or are captured and in a Siberian prison).
[QUOTE=Nomars777;3050006]All the chicas said prices got raised at the beginning of the year due to "inflation".
Chicas are now charging $50 k, although a few still offered me last summer's rate of $40 k most were at $50 k.
Room used to be $10-12 k, it's now $20 k, period.
So plan for $50+20 k = $70 k / $3.5 k per USD at the current crap exchange rate and that's $20 USD on the nose.
2023-2024-2025 this was closer to $12-15 USD, but honestly $20 USD is just stupid cheap. As I told my buddy's friend Botero / el centro is both bad and good.
Bad in the sense that most girls are not very attractive (in my opinion probably 4's and 5's, with a few 6's and 7's sprinkled in if you are patient or walk the zone and sift for gold).
Good in the sense that you can test drive them for 20-30 minutes before you commit to paying more. He took a cute 6 up to the room in Botero Real and confirmed this was true. Rode him like a champ, nice and wet, good moaning and performance, all for $20 USD. Gone for 30 minutes. He was pleased enough to think about offering to have her come to his Airbnb for an extended session, which she offered him a good rate on. Something like $200 k for 2-3 hours. I don't think he pulled the trigger on that though..[/QUOTE]I was there last year and I was paying 250 K to 350 K depending on what I wanted, natural blowjob and anal will be on a higher end. This was an La Poblado, was I paying too much?
Speaking of the weakening USD to Colombian peso right now, what are you guys doing to get the best foreign currency rates? Are you ordering your money before the trip at a Wells Fargo / Bank of America / etc branch, using some sort of online service, getting cash at local ATM's in Colombia, etc? I would especially like to know, is there a good / cheap way to get your pesos in the United States before going to Colombia? I know that airport currency exchange places have the worst rates.
[QUOTE=JamesDoe;3050552]Speaking of the weakening USD to Colombian peso right now, what are you guys doing to get the best foreign currency rates? Are you ordering your money before the trip at a Wells Fargo / Bank of America / etc branch, using some sort of online service, getting cash at local ATM's in Colombia, etc? I would especially like to know, is there a good / cheap way to get your pesos in the United States before going to Colombia? I know that airport currency exchange places have the worst rates.[/QUOTE]In 99% of countries the ATM is your best bet.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;3048095]The base price for a one hour massage with panties on at Des in Provenza is 220,000 pesos and 300 for nude body body (Higher quality offering, no travel time / Uber etc for those in or around Provenza).[/QUOTE]They just sent me their new price PDF. Base massage is now $270 K and Body to Body is $440 K.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3050589]They just sent me their new price PDF. Base massage is now $270 K and Body to Body is $440 K.[/QUOTE]People like you are the reason why girls are now asking 1 millions for sex.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3048992]It's better to just use a short time room first. The girl will take you.
That is something you can find out yourself. Distance has not been a problem for me. I don't just pick any girl. Haha.[/QUOTE]I may just need to pivot my research on casas around the city or around El Centro. I forgot to mention my Spanish is just enough to get by but not sure how comfortable I'd be talking on the street in the area. Definitely easier within the comfort of a room.
[QUOTE=L00PY;3049099]You'll stand out but you won't. If anything, the way you dress and walk is what will make you stand out. If you're dressed like a local, no one will give you a second glance. If you're dressed like a tourist or passport bro, you'll get approached or catcalled down some of the streets. I think there are a couple of expats that hang out there are Asian.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. Yeah, like I responded to Nounce, I may just need to stick with casas till I get a better lay of the land.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050604]People like you are the reason why girls are now asking 1 millions for sex.[/QUOTE]Like me? I simple had them send me their pricing. I have never used their services nor was I planning to. Read better please.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050604]People like you are the reason why girls are now asking 1 millions for sex.[/QUOTE]The asking price is typically just an opening bid subject to negotiations. It doesn't really matter what the girl is asking, only what you are willing to pay her. Often what the girl is asking is dramatically different than what she will be willing to accept. A lot of guys seem to upset with prices that a girl will ask for but if you don't ask for your dream rate, you will only get it. Isn't that the art of the dream? Ask for a crazy amount and then settle for what you were originally willing to accept.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050604]People like you are the reason why girls are now asking 1 millions for sex.[/QUOTE]TBF, that is what some guys are looking for. A supermodel hottie that gives them an erotic rubdown and a handy at the end.
I wish there was a FS studio here in Poblado besides the one on Carrera 37. The one time I was there the service was uninspired and the quality sorely lacking. Convenient, sure. But I'd rather travel to one of the casas for a better quality lady.
[QUOTE=Combo;3050464]FWIW a not insignificant % of the public in Colombia works for less than minimum wage. Ie off the books. [/QUOTE]It is used as a price index so it actually affects other things. Their central bank raised interest rate by 1% to 10.25% due the the concern about the wage increase and inflation. The interest differential makes Colombia peso an attractive investment. The effect of peso appreciation is the same as inflation from the dollar perspective.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3050130] because a few of the Parque Lleras girls work el centro prior to hitting the pavement in Lleras[/QUOTE]And there are those that only hang out in El Centro and don't work there. Some charge much more than the centro standard rate. The successful ones are not hard to spot if they are there.
[QUOTE=TheRedStar;3050501]I was there last year and I was paying 250 K to 350 K depending on what I wanted, natural blowjob and anal will be on a higher end. This was an La Poblado, was I paying too much?[/QUOTE]He is talking about the girls in El Centro. 250 is a good price at Lleras. What you pay is not bad as it is about the Facebook rate. I think the more important thing is if you are satisfied. There is a wide range of price and most of the very attritive ones would not come down in price. You would know them when you see them. I found them about half the time when I visited. LOL.
People who is desperate to pay for pics and video is also reason the price jumps to 1 mil. They just don't have a clue the spiral down effect.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;3050604]People like you are the reason why girls are now asking 1 millions for sex.[/QUOTE]
I was in El Centro today and saw many Vennies in action. I was told that a few went to the US. That sounded strange but a guy said his regulars are now in the states. El Centro is like a car lot always getting new inventory.
Any watch parties going on?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3050568]In 99% of countries the ATM is your best bet.[/QUOTE]Yes but different ATMs, banks, and locations can offer different exchange rates.
I don't care about fees because my card reimburses me. But where are the ATMs with decent exchange rates?
I know many ATMs offer you a bad exchange rate and when you say no they give you a better one but they never tell you before hand what that will be.
Are the ATMs in the airport fair? Is there a better one?
Going back to MDE after a few years.
I RTFF seem like Lleras prices are 250 k to 500 k at the moment?
Has anyone every tried to got a threesome with those girls?
I know if some girls do say yes they won't play too much with each other but still seems fun.
Is Seeking still good and similar in price range?
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There are still plenty of Venezuelans in South Florida. ICE hasn't been as thorough or visible here as in the northern states. Also, you see many Vennies complaining that they don't want to be sent back, not because it's dangerous, but because they are able to make so much more in the USA At least they're honest.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051132]Going back to MDE after a few years.
I RTFF seem like Lleras prices are 250 k to 500 k at the moment?
Has anyone every tried to got a threesome with those girls?
I know if some girls do say yes they won't play too much with each other but still seems fun.
Is Seeking still good and similar in price range?[/QUOTE]A Lleras threesome goes a couple of ways. While you are balls deep in one hooker, the other one grab your pants and your wallet and takes off. You decide whether to chase her with your dick out and swinging on the streets. Or, while you are balls deep in one hooker and eating out the second one's pussy. She rubs some scopolamine on her tits, shoves them in your face, and you become a cash dispensing zombie for several hours. If you don't die right away from complications due to preexisting health conditions.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051131]Yes but different ATMs, banks, and locations can offer different exchange rates.
I don't care about fees because my card reimburses me. But where are the ATMs with decent exchange rates?
I know many ATMs offer you a bad exchange rate and when you say no they give you a better one but they never tell you before hand what that will be.
Are the ATMs in the airport fair? Is there a better one?[/QUOTE]Your home bank or the network they use (Visa, Mastercard) determines the exchange rate, not the bank where you use the ATM. Assuming you decline the dynamic exchange offer.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051131]Yes but different ATMs, banks, and locations can offer different exchange rates.
I don't care about fees because my card reimburses me. But where are the ATMs with decent exchange rates?
I know many ATMs offer you a bad exchange rate and when you say no they give you a better one but they never tell you before hand what that will be.
Are the ATMs in the airport fair? Is there a better one?[/QUOTE]I do not think they do. But at that point it would be splitting hairs. Nobody is running all around town looking for a machine to get a rate that is 2 pesos better. Don't make it complicated. They don't offer you a bad exchange. They offer you to exchange your money for you at a rate of their choosing. If you say no, then the exchange happens on your bank's end at the normal interbank exchange rate. The only concern with an ATM should be that it gives you the amount of currency and the fee charged, which if your bank gives it back there is nothing to worry about. The only machine I do not use is BanColombia. Years ago before covid it charged my account, but no money came out of the machine. I disputed it with my bank and Bancolombia would not return the money. (Colombian banks are not known for giving money back in cases of fraud or whatever.) My bank still gave my money back. So pick a machine; any machine as long as it is not BanColombia.
[QUOTE=LR123;3051032]Any watch parties going on?[/QUOTE]You can go to Hooters.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3051164]A Lleras threesome goes a couple of ways. While you are balls deep in one hooker, the other one grab your pants and your wallet and takes off. You decide whether to chase her with your dick out and swinging on the streets. Or, while you are balls deep in one hooker and eating out the second one's pussy. She rubs some scopolamine on her tits, shoves them in your face, and you become a cash dispensing zombie for several hours. If you don't die right away from complications due to preexisting health conditions.[/QUOTE]I am afraid that he's right. You cannot engage in activities like threesomes with people you don't know. Here's an another scenario: they can extort you. I left Seeking last year after at least 15 years on there. They charge too much and the gals in Colombia are asking for 1,000,000 pesos for one hour of covered sex.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3051190]I am afraid that he's right. You cannot engage in activities like threesomes with people you don't know. Here's an another scenario: they can extort you. I left Seeking last year after at least 15 years on there. They charge too much and the gals in Colombia are asking for 1,000,000 pesos for one hour of covered sex.[/QUOTE]I had so many positive experiences with Lleras girls, I never tired a threesome with some yet. So what's a safer way to get a threesome?
I always hide all valuables in a before I even leave my apartment and use a burner phone, I though everyone knew that already.
How would they extort you?
Damn Seeking was so good in MDE just a few years ago. Is there a somewhat equal alternative to meet girl that more leaning to non pro?
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051263]I had so many positive experiences with Lleras girls, I never tired a threesome with some yet. So what's a safer way to get a threesome?[/QUOTE]Don't know about a safer way, but the best way is a termas in Brazil. But if you insist on it being in Medellin, then try a casa or strip club.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3051190]They charge too much and the gals in Colombia are asking for 1,000,000 pesos for one hour of covered sex.[/QUOTE]Key word: ASKING. Seeking has been a gold mine for me so to each their own. I am paying three girls between 1. 000.000 and 2. 000.000 a MONTH, a million for an hour?,in their dreams.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3050742]The asking price is typically just an opening bid subject to negotiations. It doesn't really matter what the girl is asking, only what you are willing to pay her. Often what the girl is asking is dramatically different than what she will be willing to accept. A lot of guys seem to upset with prices that a girl will ask for but if you don't ask for your dream rate, you will only get it. Isn't that the art of the dream? Ask for a crazy amount and then settle for what you were originally willing to accept.[/QUOTE]Don't ask them how much they want, tell them what you are willing to pay.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3051164]A Lleras threesome goes a couple of ways. While you are balls deep in one hooker, the other one grab your pants and your wallet and takes off. You decide whether to chase her with your dick out and swinging on the streets. Or, while you are balls deep in one hooker and eating out the second one's pussy. She rubs some scopolamine on her tits, shoves them in your face, and you become a cash dispensing zombie for several hours. If you don't die right away from complications due to preexisting health conditions.[/QUOTE]LOL, threesomes are overrated from pleasure standpoint. Having said that, I would advise anyone to try it at least a few times so he can grow out of it.
There are factors that determine how good the experience is. Of course safety is one. Also the chemistry between the girls is extremely important. They cannot be friends, sisters, relatives or know each other well prior. In fact it would be better to introduce them on the spot and then create the conditions hoping they like each other, they laugh, giggle, even care for each other a bit. Their good relationship should be through the monger, If not he will be excluded and become the outsider quick.
In any case, threesomes are overrated. I would rather concentrate on one woman and bang her around while she clings to me passionately.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3051278]Don't ask them how much they want, tell them what you are willing to pay.[/QUOTE]I agree. This is a pro move. Set the limit from the get go. I would not mention payment until I sense how I feel about her from a very close interaction and also her sentiment generally and more importantly what she seems to feel about me. Then suddenly I would tell her what I pay, I might move up a bit. If there is no match I am always good to let her go.
Went to El Centro / Veracruz back in November 2025 for the first. The selection was just as good as I imagined after watching youtube vids for years. I like older, bottom heavy women but I didn't see many when I went to Raudal street like I did on Youtube. I went to Raudal before noon everyday because I love having sex with a morning wood, but would the afternoon be more preferable to find a larger selection of women on Raudal?
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3051277]Key word: ASKING. Seeking has been a gold mine for me so to each their own. I am paying three girls between 1. 000.000 and 2. 000.000 a MONTH, a million for an hour?,in their dreams.[/QUOTE]Seeking was great 3 years ago but it sucks now. If someone else wants to go there that's fine with me. I have better results on Tinder.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3051334]Seeking was great 3 years ago but it sucks now. If someone else wants to go there that's fine with me. I have better results on Tinder.[/QUOTE]I will def try it if when I get a new SIM, I got banned from it for saying something about mutual benefits on my profile with my other number, its against terms.
Am I correct that money and prices should never be spoken about on Seeking because that can get you banned too?
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3051286]LOL, threesomes are overrated from pleasure standpoint. Having said that, I would advise anyone to try it at least a few times so he can grow out of it.
There are factors that determine how good the experience is. Of course safety is one. Also the chemistry between the girls is extremely important. They cannot be friends, sisters, relatives or know each other well prior.[/QUOTE]Why do you say this? In all the threesomes that I have had (paid and unpaid) the chicks knew each other well or were related. Pure fun and never any problems.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3051278]Don't ask them how much they want, tell them what you are willing to pay.[/QUOTE]It actually doesn't really matter for negotiations. You can ask them how much they want and then counteroffer with what you are willing to pay or you can tell what you are willing to pay and then they will accept or give you a counteroffer. Either way, it is basically the same outcome. Now some would ask you can either negotiate down from what she is asking or negotiate up from what you are offering. In the end, it doesn't really matter based on own personal experiences.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051369]Why do you say this? In all the threesomes that I have had (paid and unpaid) the chicks knew each other well or were related. Pure fun and never any problems.[/QUOTE]Ok. I hear you. In my experience when they know each other, I am the odd man out. Too much giggling and coded language amongst each other. When you introduce them, you are in. You are the link between them hence the treatment is much more exciting to you. They both cling on to you in bed or out of it. That is my experience.
The key point though is the chemistry between them as you introduce them, without it, there is no fun for you. I usually build up one to the other before I get them together. You also have to treat them equally at all times. Example, If you kiss one, you got to kiss the other immediately. If you are fucking one, you got to hold the other in your arms. If they are friends, they don't give a shit what you do, and that is not good for me.
If I do threesomes, this would be the only way I'd do it. There could be other experiences.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051352]I will def try it if when I get a new SIM, I got banned from it for saying something about mutual benefits on my profile with my other number, its against terms.
Am I correct that money and prices should never be spoken about on Seeking because that can get you banned too?[/QUOTE]Seeking is freaking expensive. Tried it for few Months and got out. I got hundreds of girls all from Medellin that I befriended on FB and I have never been there. LOL. Funny thing is a bunch of those girls on FB were on Seeking as well.
Although I have been seeing room full of girls in Tijuana in person for years, not a single girl wants to be a contact in FB.
You have to watch out for a second girl getting into mischief, which interferes with the session enjoyment. It's more trouble than it's worth as far as I'm concerned.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3051286]LOL, threesomes are overrated from pleasure standpoint. Having said that, I would advise anyone to try it at least a few times so he can grow out of it.
There are factors that determine how good the experience is. Of course safety is one. Also the chemistry between the girls is extremely important. They cannot be friends, sisters, relatives or know each other well prior. In fact it would be better to introduce them on the spot and then create the conditions hoping they like each other, they laugh, giggle, even care for each other a bit. Their good relationship should be through the monger, If not he will be excluded and become the outsider quick.
In any case, threesomes are overrated. I would rather concentrate on one woman and bang her around while she clings to me passionately.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051352]I will def try it if when I get a new SIM, I got banned from it for saying something about mutual benefits on my profile with my other number, its against terms.
Am I correct that money and prices should never be spoken about on Seeking because that can get you banned too?[/QUOTE]Seeking is run by bots. You cannot say anything money or coded language or they will ban you. If someone wants to meet you immediately ask for their WhatsApp. You can't discuss details of any kind on that platform.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051369]Why do you say this? In all the threesomes that I have had (paid and unpaid) the chicks knew each other well or were related. Pure fun and never any problems.[/QUOTE]I have only done four paid threesomes in my entire life (really not my thing because expensive and I would rather focus on one), and all four were absolutely great! In each case, the girls knew each other, hung out together, and in a couple of cases were even traveling together. Before I ever did even one threesome, I read and abided by the advice given by mongers here who were more seasoned in this regard. What the ones with quality experiences said is that the girls [B]should[/B] be friendly towards and like each other. That's because if it's going to be a good session, then there needs to be chemistry between the girls too. So, instead of the monger picking two girls he likes, he should pick only one, and then let that girl pick someone who she likes. I followed that formula, and it worked exceedingly well for me each time. And luckily for me, each time the girl who I picked chose someone who also had my dick hard LMAO! I documented my limited but highly successful experimentation with threesomes in old reports I wrote chronicling previous trips to Brazil (2 threesomes) and Spain (2 threesomes). Lots of muff munching and double butt fucks!
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3051426]It actually doesn't really matter for negotiations. You can ask them how much they want and then counteroffer with what you are willing to pay or you can tell what you are willing to pay and then they will accept or give you a counteroffer. Either way, it is basically the same outcome. Now some would ask you can either negotiate down from what she is asking or negotiate up from what you are offering. In the end, it doesn't really matter based on own personal experiences.[/QUOTE]I ask the girls on Tinder how much they are asking for. Before that I move over to WhatsApp. If they give me their number and it has their country code then I know they are not new to the game. If get the local number without the country code I usually means they are new.
I don't tell anyone what I am willing to pay. I would be okay with 300-400 k pesos. But, when I ask them how much they want the new girls say 200 k every time. They don't ask for transportation either but I always provide and send an Uber.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051132]
I RTFF seem like Lleras prices are 250 k to 500 k at the moment?[/QUOTE]It can be lower but not often. The last 200 I paid was new to Lleras. I asked how much, she said 200. I have several others asked for less but I found them elsewhere.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051132]
Has anyone every tried to got a threesome with those girls?[/QUOTE]I have with several. Most of them are just like girls from elsewhere. It's better to know one well, then have her bring a friend. I usually let them bring it up and the I don't need to negotiate. The new girl will do whatever the first girl does. The first girl will give instruction to the new girl so both work on you at the same time.
Lesbian sex is rare but kissing and oral among good friends are possible.
If will be safe if you have a wingman waiting outside your place during a date or something equivalent.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051263]
I always hide all valuables in a before I even leave my apartment and use a burner phone, I though everyone knew that already.[/QUOTE]That only works when you have not been drugged.
[QUOTE=JoeRoc;3051323]Went to El Centro / Veracruz back in November 2025 for the first. The selection was just as good as I imagined after watching youtube vids for years. I like older, bottom heavy women but I didn't see many when I went to Raudal street like I did on Youtube. I went to Raudal before noon everyday because I love having sex with a morning wood, but would the afternoon be more preferable to find a larger selection of women on Raudal?[/QUOTE]You must be referring to all the old Redlight Jason videos. Raudal and centro overall was a LOT better. No I feel like its 15-20% trannys, addicts, old ladies, and little girls. Very slim picking. Sunday morning and night were a bust. This morning across from the backer adjacent to the church there is a spot with a lot of older thick chicks. Problem for me is a lot of Hispanics start getting masculine features so its hard to differentiate between what you are seeing so I generally try to stay away from that type but there was a nice thick one this morning around 830 am. (photo) and I'm about to go now after I checkout new life.
P.S. : The other thing I don't like about the nice thick ones over there is the fact that you might be confined to a tiny room and bed which makes it hard to work with all that arse LOL.
I have had many 3 somes, and its far more exciting and passionate if they don't know each. Its like your first time with a women. The excitement level is very high.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3051460]I have only done four paid threesomes in my entire life (really not my thing because expensive and I would rather focus on one), and all four were absolutely great! In each case, the girls knew each other, hung out together, and in a couple of cases were even traveling together. Before I ever did even one threesome, I read and abided by the advice given by mongers here who were more seasoned in this regard. What the ones with quality experiences said is that the girls [B]should[/B] be friendly towards and like each other. That's because if it's going to be a good session, then there needs to be chemistry between the girls too. So, instead of the monger picking two girls he likes, he should pick only one, and then let that girl pick someone who she likes. I followed that formula, and it worked exceedingly well for me each time. And luckily for me, each time the girl who I picked chose someone who also had my dick hard LMAO! I documented my limited but highly successful experimentation with threesomes in old reports I wrote chronicling previous trips to Brazil (2 threesomes) and Spain (2 threesomes). Lots of muff munching and double butt fucks![/QUOTE].
Someone please populate this site with actionable and informative information.
I'm 10 pages in and all I see are discussions about exchange rates, ED drugs, dissatisfaction. Much of this discussion can be deferred to google and not sure why these topics are raised in a site titled internationalsexguide.
There are far more authoritative sources on exchange rates, ATM rules, and dick medication on the Internet versus this site. I mean, this site is not intended to be your financial advisor or a professional medical source.
For instance, my information is outdated but in 2022, I visited Medellin:
Parque Lleras was dead. I was mildly impressed by the gastronomy scene but did meet women in bars who were openly sex workers. As in, having a drink and interrupted by women announcing 'sexo' for almost everyone to hear. They were offering themselves for 300 to 400 for the night. I did take advantage twice. Both were beautiful slim brunettes and stayed until late morning.
Unlike Brasil, I did not find clubs where it was possible to preview everyone. It mostly seemed ad hoc. Women on streets, bars, not necessarily dedicated venues where it would be appropriate to approach women as a transaction.
Did you have a question?
[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3051557]Someone please populate this site with actionable and informative information.
I'm 10 pages in and all I see are discussions about exchange rates, ED drugs, dissatisfaction. Much of this discussion can be deferred to google and not sure why these topics are raised in a site titled internationalsexguide.
There are far more authoritative sources on exchange rates, ATM rules, and dick medication on the Internet versus this site. I mean, this site is not intended to be your financial advisor or a professional medical source.
For instance, my information is outdated but in 2022, I visited Medellin:
Parque Lleras was dead. I was mildly impressed by the gastronomy scene but did meet women in bars who were openly sex workers. As in, having a drink and interrupted by women announcing 'sexo' for almost everyone to hear. They were offering themselves for 300 to 400 for the night. I did take advantage twice. Both were beautiful slim brunettes and stayed until late morning..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3051557] but did meet women in bars who were openly sex workers. As in, having a drink and interrupted by women announcing 'sexo' for almost everyone to hear. They were offering themselves for 300 to 400 for the night. I did take advantage twice. Both were beautiful slim brunettes and stayed until late morning.
.[/QUOTE]Do you remember which bars this was at? Thanks. And where you stayed. Did they charge you much of a fee for bringing them back?
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3051426]It actually doesn't really matter for negotiations. You can ask them how much they want and then counteroffer with what you are willing to pay or you can tell what you are willing to pay and then they will accept or give you a counteroffer. Either way, it is basically the same outcome. Now some would ask you can either negotiate down from what she is asking or negotiate up from what you are offering. In the end, it doesn't really matter based on own personal experiences.[/QUOTE]I don't negotiate, I tell them what I'm willing to pay and if they counter I tell them nicely "no". To each their own.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;3051352]I will def try it if when I get a new SIM, I got banned from it for saying something about mutual benefits on my profile with my other number, its against terms.
Am I correct that money and prices should never be spoken about on Seeking because that can get you banned too?[/QUOTE]Use the term mutual "agreement" instead of benefits, benefits implies that she is getting paid.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3051554]I have had many 3 somes, and its far more exciting and passionate if they don't know each. Its like your first time with a women. The excitement level is very high.[/QUOTE]But the point is that experienced guys seem to believe that the likelihood of a failure and bad experience is higher too with girls who don't know each other. I wouldn't know since again, in my limited experience, the girls did know each other and it was great each time. That said, I've fucked so many women that I doubt anything is going to be like my first time with a woman ever again LOL! And now that I think about it, for me personally my best times with a woman weren't the first or earliest ones. They were actually better when both me and the girls had some experience fucking. Girls who have learned how to toss their big asses around in bed are better LMAO!
Back in Medellin after 4 years, and I was honestly shocked by the price inflation (close to 100% increase in many places) combined with noticeably lower overall quality. These days, it only feels worth it if you're already traveling here for other reasons not just for the sexaction.
I stayed at the Hilton Curio for 3 nights and got a free upgrade to a King Suite thanks to Diamond status. The room was excellent.
As an Asian guy, my tastes differ quite a bit from most Westerners, so this is very subjective. I still prefer thick bodies, big tits, and a nice ass ("cake" but I'm not into heavy tattoos or obvious plastic surgery.
Here's my breakdown of spots I checked out:
1. Plaza Botero / El Centro freelancers.
Mostly Venezuelan girls. Out of 50 I saw, only about 1 was doable for me. Didn't pull the trigger, but prices seemed to hover around 70 k pesos.
2. El Centro strip club Playmates Bar Show.
This place is mostly for local blue-collar guys. Damage is 120150 k.
Surprisingly had fun with a girl from Comuna 13 right after her dance. She was passionate, cooperative, and great at reggaeton perreocould switch to Spanish dirty talk on request.
Solid experience. Although the room is pretty simple and no hot water.
3. Massage parlors.
New life Spa: Went twice but didn't take a shot none were my type. Prices are crazy now: 85 k for 30 min, 140 k for 1 hour.
Chicas Energy Medellin: 170 k. Most girls looked over 30 not doable for me.
Tantra Medellin: 170 k for an hour. Out of 12 girls, 3 were solid 8/10's.
4. High-end strip clubs.
Fase II (preferred over La Isla).
Better premium vibe, hotter dance shows, and higher-quality girls overall. They don't pressure you to buy drinks you can just grab water and sit at the bar. Entry ticket 50 k.
Damage is 500 k for 45 min in a private room. Take-out around 1500 k (you can pay in dollars but at a bad rate).
First night: picked a passionate thick Venezuelanseductive, crazy dancer.
Second night: cute 19-year-old Colombian, short with big tits, still killed it on perreo. Great sessions both times.
I also saw a Colombian couple having threesome with a dancer. The girlfriend look pretty naive and nerdy. Unbelievable.
La Isla.
More girls (50), but in my opinion lower quality than Fase II. The venue feels too open / spacious with little privacy. They push hard for bottle service.
Didn't take any action here.
5. Parque Lleras freelancers.
Quality has dropped noticeably compared to 4 years ago. Even at 1 am, plenty were still hanging around untaken. Asking prices start at 400 k for 1 hourmaybe negotiable down to 250300 k, but.
I'd rather spend more for better quality at Fase II.
Did take one home: short Colombian girl for 500 k the whole night. We went a few rounds in my room; she had multiple orgasms, but I struggled to finish and she got noticeably pissed off the next.
Morning.
Did the Airbnb laws change? Why are the daily rate and monthly rate the same (Eg: 100 $/ Day or 3 K a month)? I thought the monthly rate would be 40-50% lower.
[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3051557]Someone please populate this site with actionable and informative information.
I'm 10 pages in and all I see are discussions about exchange rates, ED drugs, dissatisfaction. Much of this discussion can be deferred to google and not sure why these topics are raised in a site titled internationalsexguide.
There are far more authoritative sources on exchange rates, ATM rules, and dick medication on the Internet versus this site. I mean, this site is not intended to be your financial advisor or a professional medical source.
For instance, my information is outdated but in 2022, I visited Medellin:
Parque Lleras was dead. I was mildly impressed by the gastronomy scene but did meet women in bars who were openly sex workers. As in, having a drink and interrupted by women announcing 'sexo' for almost everyone to hear. They were offering themselves for 300 to 400 for the night. I did take advantage twice. Both were beautiful slim brunettes and stayed until late morning..[/QUOTE]I am here so often that there isn't anything new to report. I will post later about the arrival and departure which some people on here find helpful.
I know exactly who that woman is from my stint in Santa Fe, I even have her instagram.
[QUOTE=Icky994;3051488]You must be referring to all the old Redlight Jason videos. Raudal and centro overall was a LOT better. No I feel like its 15-20% trannys, addicts, old ladies, and little girls. Very slim picking. Sunday morning and night were a bust. This morning across from the backer adjacent to the church there is a spot with a lot of older thick chicks. Problem for me is a lot of Hispanics start getting masculine features so its hard to differentiate between what you are seeing so I generally try to stay away from that type but there was a nice thick one this morning around 830 am. (photo) and I'm about to go now after I checkout new life.
P.S. : The other thing I don't like about the nice thick ones over there is the fact that you might be confined to a tiny room and bed which makes it hard to work with all that arse LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tnfsh217;3051668]Did take one home: short Colombian girl for 500 k the whole night. We went a few rounds in my room; she had multiple orgasms, but I struggled to finish and she got noticeably pissed off the next morning.[/QUOTE]Great report. What was she pissed off about? The drugs wore off?
My bad for lack of clarity. I meant imagine new pu##y. Just like it excites a man to get new pu$$y, it also excites a woman. The passion, if you work it, is off the charts.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3051641]But the point is that experienced guys seem to believe that the likelihood of a failure and bad experience is higher too with girls who don't know each other. I wouldn't know since again, in my limited experience, the girls did know each other and it was great each time. That said, I've fucked so many women that I doubt anything is going to be like my first time with a woman ever again LOL! And now that I think about it, for me personally my best times with a woman weren't the first or earliest ones. They were actually better when both me and the girls had some experience fucking. Girls who have learned how to toss their big asses around in bed are better LMAO![/QUOTE].
Generally, the guys who stay here for the long term or for long visits that last for months are happy with Medellin. So far I haven't met any long term stay gringo who is not happy. Everyone has been able to find the type of girl that they want for the price that they are willing to pay or has a steady girlfriend. Among the long term guys, no one has been complaining about prices.
Now it is a different story with guys coming over for a week or so. If you are here for a while, you can be more patient and girls who have turned you down come back to you at the lower price when business is slow. They know that you are here for a while so you get treated differently.
As for myself, as with some other expats here, I prefer a rotation of favorite girls rather than constantly seeing new girls who may or may not be good. With a rotation of 5-7 girls, it is almost always going to be good and with the right number, there is still diversity.
Does Medellin have issues? Of course, but it's not a bad place to be.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3051682]Did the Airbnb laws change? Why are the daily rate and monthly rate the same (Eg: 100 $/ Day or 3 K a month)? I thought the monthly rate would be 40-50% lower.[/QUOTE]The owner or host decides on prices. Airbnb does not.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;3051682]Did the Airbnb laws change? Why are the daily rate and monthly rate the same (Eg: 100 $/ Day or 3 K a month)? I thought the monthly rate would be 40-50% lower.[/QUOTE]The daily rate and the monthly rate are not the same. The monthly rate is much cheaper and currently a number of places in Medellin show the discount Although it may be true that some places do not offer a discount, most do.
Hey all we are last minute coming to Medellin for a family visit with my wife's sister. We were going to head to El Salvador but now plans changed. We will be staying at the York or Click Clack we think as we heard these were guest friendly. We for sure will be staying in Poblamo as that's where her sister is staying. We typically get an escort for the two of us and I do my own thing usually as well. Two questions. First I read that Poblamo now doesn't allow prostitution anymore due to some weirdo. Will this be an issue? Second any recommendations for me solo to go to a brothel or MP? I read numerous posts but recommendations are always appreciated! For wife we get an escort usually on line as its easier then heading out and negotiating and trying to find girls that are interested. Thanks in advance for any input.
Your report is interesting, and I share your opinion. Now, when you talk about rampant inflation, that's the case worldwide. For over 10 years, I went to Thailand all the time—Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket—and since the end of COVID, prices have become insane!
So, I've been coming to Colombia very regularly for the past three years, where I find the girls much more beautiful and even much cheaper than in Thailand. And they all have sex without a condom if you pay extra.
I usually stay a week in Medellin, changing hotels two or three times during the week so I can easily bring girls back. I've noticed that in Colombia, the girls love kissing and having sex. They don't want to work a regular job with a low salary and prefer to prostitute themselves to tourists and have a good time with them.
I love El Centro because even though the neighborhood is a bit dangerous at night, there's no problem during the day, and I always stay at the Nutibara Hotel because I can bring the prostitutes from the neighborhood home during the day without any trouble. It's true that 70% of them are Venezuelan, but some are very beautiful, and it's really cheap! Prices start at 50,000 pesos, and for another 50,000, you can have sex with them without a condom! It's true that most of the girls aren't very beautiful, but you can still find very pretty girls between 18 and 22 years old every day without any problem. You just have to look around a bit and walk all the streets of the neighborhood or in front of the bars.
Then I really like having sex with girls in the casas because it's also cheap, and you can select the girls from photos since all the casas are on WhatsApp or Telegram, and you choose the girl you want. Generally, prices are between 150,000 and 200,000 for an hour, and once you're in the room, the girls agree to have sex without a condom for an extra 50,000 or 100,000.
Then I love meeting girls on Facebook or Tinder; I negotiate directly with them. That's more expensive. They usually want 300,000 and come to your hotel. And you usually have to pay an extra 100,000 or sometimes 200,000 to have sex with them without a condom. I have a girl who's become a regular escort that I see every time I come to Medellin. She's 25 years old, her name is Yadna, and she's extremely popular with men on Facebook. She works exclusively on Facebook. She's also a lesbian, but she has no problem sleeping with men. She owns a bar with her family in Bello. And she does a lot of escort work or travels with her clients. We usually go out to eat together, like we're a couple. She always dresses very sexy for me, and then at my hotel, I fuck her in the shower, in the jacuzzi, or in my bed without a condom. She lets me cum inside her without any problem. However, I pay her 500,000 pesos each time.
Finally, I love fucking Colombian porn stars, and that's much more expensive. I usually pay between 500,000 and 2 million pesos for the superstars.
[QUOTE=Tnfsh217;3051668]Back in Medellin after 4 years, and I was honestly shocked by the price inflation (close to 100% increase in many places) combined with noticeably lower overall quality. These days, it only feels worth it if you're already traveling here for other reasons not just for the sexaction.
I stayed at the Hilton Curio for 3 nights and got a free upgrade to a King Suite thanks to Diamond status. The room was excellent.
As an Asian guy, my tastes differ quite a bit from most Westerners, so this is very subjective. I still prefer thick bodies, big tits, and a nice ass ("cake" but I'm not into heavy tattoos or obvious plastic surgery..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3052034]Hey all we are last minute coming to Medellin for a family visit with my wife's sister. We were going to head to El Salvador but now plans changed. We will be staying at the York or Click Clack we think as we heard these were guest friendly. We for sure will be staying in Poblamo as that's where her sister is staying. We typically get an escort for the two of us and I do my own thing usually as well. Two questions. First I read that Poblamo now doesn't allow prostitution anymore due to some weirdo. Will this be an issue? Second any recommendations for me solo to go to a brothel or MP? I read numerous posts but recommendations are always appreciated! For wife we get an escort usually on line as its easier then heading out and negotiating and trying to find girls that are interested. Thanks in advance for any input.[/QUOTE]Poblado (not Poblamo) is a large area of the city. First, I would be very surprised if Click Clack is guest friendly. Don't know what the York is. And if you read posts here you will see hundreds of posts about chicas in Poblado. Not sure about the current status of the mayor's push against prostitution, but it doesn't seem to be stopping things if you read this forum about stuff in Parque Lleras, etc.
Logic begs the question of why would we stay if we were dissatisfied with Medellin. That said, I've been known to travel from time to time to keep things fresh. When you have the time you can find whatever you want at the price you want. I have no complaints on that front.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3051870]Generally, the guys who stay here for the long term or for long visits that last for months are happy with Medellin. So far I haven't met any long term stay gringo who is not happy. Everyone has been able to find the type of girl that they want for the price that they are willing to pay or has a steady girlfriend. Among the long term guys, no one has been complaining about prices.
Now it is a different story with guys coming over for a week or so. If you are here for a while, you can be more patient and girls who have turned you down come back to you at the lower price when business is slow. They know that you are here for a while so you get treated differently.
As for myself, as with some other expats here, I prefer a rotation of favorite girls rather than constantly seeing new girls who may or may not be good. With a rotation of 5-7 girls, it is almost always going to be good and with the right number, there is still diversity.
Does Medellin have issues? Of course, but it's not a bad place to be.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeos1;3052126]Poblado (not Poblamo) is a large area of the city. First, I would be very surprised if Click Clack is guest friendly. Don't know what the York is. And if you read posts here you will see hundreds of posts about chicas in Poblado. Not sure about the current status of the mayor's push against prostitution, but it doesn't seem to be stopping things if you read this forum about stuff in Parque Lleras, etc.[/QUOTE]We called Click Clack and they said it was a 25 dollar fee if I broke it down to usd correctly. That being said it wasn't easy to get a straight answer my wife said and seemed obvious to her it was kind of frowned upon. York we arent sure but it was listed as a guest friendly hotel. Traveling with my wife a nice hotel with a roof top pool and bar is mandatory which is why we looked at those two. If I was solo ID stay next to brothel action. If anyone knows a nice hotel that meets this please let me know. Thanks for reply feedback is always appreciated.
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3052034]Hey all we are last minute coming to Medellin for a family visit with my wife's sister. We were going to head to El Salvador but now plans changed. We will be staying at the York or Click Clack we think as we heard these were guest friendly. We for sure will be staying in Poblamo as that's where her sister is staying. We typically get an escort for the two of us and I do my own thing usually as well. Two questions. First I read that Poblamo now doesn't allow prostitution anymore due to some weirdo. Will this be an issue? Second any recommendations for me solo to go to a brothel or MP? I read numerous posts but recommendations are always appreciated! For wife we get an escort usually on line as its easier then heading out and negotiating and trying to find girls that are interested. Thanks in advance for any input.[/QUOTE]The York is guest friendly, very nice hotel. I've been there once but it was like 5 years ago. I usually stay in Airbnb's.
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3052135]We called Click Clack and they said it was a 25 dollar fee if I broke it down to usd correctly. That being said it wasn't easy to get a straight answer my wife said and seemed obvious to her it was kind of frowned upon. York we arent sure but it was listed as a guest friendly hotel. Traveling with my wife a nice hotel with a roof top pool and bar is mandatory which is why we looked at those two. If I was solo ID stay next to brothel action. If anyone knows a nice hotel that meets this please let me know. Thanks for reply feedback is always appreciated.[/QUOTE]Haven hotel is guest friendly too, with a nice rooftop pool. I'm going next week and got an Airbnb with a private pool in Provenz for 1 night, It's called Viktory boutique. Guest friendly too.
Is the weather a factor?
I don't know where to post this. I am thinking of canceling or postponing a 3 week trip in April for Bogota, mostly in Medellin & Cartagena. Because of the flooding and coastal disasters. It's still 7 weeks away. Weather projections do not sound good.
Scopolamine, thieves and traffic won't deter me me but constant rain (streets flooding, historic rain etc.) Makes me wonder if the girls, outdoor trips and sightseeing will be accessible. I have read that beaches are closed currently. What do you guys think about Medellin in April? Will the sun come out? I don't want bad experiences due to the weather.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3052188]Is the weather a factor?
I don't know where to post this. I am thinking of canceling or postponing a 3 week trip in April for Bogota, mostly in Medellin & Cartagena. Because of the flooding and coastal disasters. It's still 7 weeks away. Weather projections do not sound good.
Scopolamine, thieves and traffic won't deter me me but constant rain (streets flooding, historic rain etc.) Makes me wonder if the girls, outdoor trips and sightseeing will be accessible. I have read that beaches are closed currently. What do you guys think about Medellin in April? Will the sun come out? I don't want bad experiences due to the weather.[/QUOTE]I just returned from a 10 day stay in Medellin. There are showers almost daily, but not all day. If you check the weather apps it lists as 60-80% every day all year, but usually short showers mostly late afternoon, some evenings. Just bering an umbrella or rain jacket & cap & you'll bet fine.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3052127]Logic begs the question of why would we stay if we were dissatisfied with Medellin. That said, I've been known to travel from time to time to keep things fresh. When you have the time you can find whatever you want at the price you want. I have no complaints on that front.[/QUOTE]You actually meet a lot of dissatisfied expats in the Philippines. They are staying there but they whine and complain all the time about the PI. Why do they stay if they are dissatisfied? Because they are on a tight budget and they don't have a better place to go or they don't want to move away from what they know.
I would agree that if you put in the time and effort, you can find the type of girl that you want at the price range that you want but you may have to move away from just what you know. Guys like to complain about the girls hanging out in Park Lleras but they continue just doing the same time over and over again. If you are unhappy with one venue, it is time to move to another venue or option.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3052188]Is the weather a factor?
I don't know where to post this. I am thinking of canceling or postponing a 3 week trip in April for Bogota, mostly in Medellin & Cartagena. Because of the flooding and coastal disasters. It's still 7 weeks away. Weather projections do not sound good.
Scopolamine, thieves and traffic won't deter me me but constant rain (streets flooding, historic rain etc.) Makes me wonder if the girls, outdoor trips and sightseeing will be accessible. I have read that beaches are closed currently. What do you guys think about Medellin in April? Will the sun come out? I don't want bad experiences due to the weather.[/QUOTE]It can rain a lot in MDE at any time of year, though April is one of the rainier months on average.
I went to Cartagena in April (just once) and the weather was fine. Quite hot, but not too much rain.
If you're worried about streets flooding, Bogota might be a better bet. I'm thinking because it has such a high altitude, flooding isn't much of a concern. But I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3052188]Is the weather a factor?
I don't know where to post this. I am thinking of canceling or postponing a 3 week trip in April for Bogota, mostly in Medellin & Cartagena. Because of the flooding and coastal disasters. It's still 7 weeks away. Weather projections do not sound good.[/QUOTE]DC, I left Cartagena two weeks ago. The water from the heavy storms in Cartagena always seems to take a while to totally dry off. Their water drainage system is not the best. I joke with my gal that the thing I like best about Cartagena is after a rain storm everyone can take out two orange traffic cones, place them on the road, and mark out their own private pool.
Thing is that storm two weeks ago was different. It was so intense all the flights were delayed. If you know the area where you wait for international flights leaving from Cartagena, it was so loaded up they were not letting anyone through security because of all the flight delays. They were beyond seating capacity in the back area. Fortunately, with my gal's persistence in getting me and a few others through customs, I made my flight. A lot of others got stranded as sadly their flights were cancelled.
That said, she and her daughter went to a pre-Carnivale party in Barranquilla last week and they were walking along the beach there. We talk almost every day and she showed me the weather today and it was back to usual. With Cartagena, you do get these short bursts of rain so the forecast may show rain, but typically it is over and done with.
I have been going every month or two for the last four or five years to Colombia, and I think this was just a one time thing though. I would not let it ruin any vacation plans. The forecasters do a great job with their 10 day forecasts but beyond that, you are better off letting history be your judge, and I do not know why 7 weeks from now things would be any different.
I have not changed my future travel plans at all and will be back in Cartagena in a few weeks.
I will ask next time we talk if the beaches are open, but I think she would have said something to me if they were still closed.
Some of the guys I know who are in Asia when there after living in Latin America. The pattern among some of them that I notice is they are there for the lower cost of living. I suspect the reluctance to leave has to do with the much greater distance from Europe and the Americas.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3052296]You actually meet a lot of dissatisfied expats in the Philippines. They are staying there but they whine and complain all the time about the PI. Why do they stay if they are dissatisfied? Because they are on a tight budget and they don't have a better place to go or they don't want to move away from what they know.
I would agree that if you put in the time and effort, you can find the type of girl that you want at the price range that you want but you may have to move away from just what you know. Guys like to complain about the girls hanging out in Park Lleras but they continue just doing the same time over and over again. If you are unhappy with one venue, it is time to move to another venue or option.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blakman;3051554]I have had many 3 somes, and its far more exciting and passionate if they don't know each. Its like your first time with a women. The excitement level is very high.
.[/QUOTE]My experience has been the opposite, but this is from a and of 8-10. When the girls don't know each other I've found them to become jealous or more skeptical of the other girls hygiene and cleanliness, not to mention, less coordinated in their interactions with you. Also, some girls aren't truly attracted to women, despite agreeing to it. This has been across Costa Rica, Colombia, and Brazil.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;3052188]Scopolamine, thieves and traffic won't deter me me but constant rain (streets flooding, historic rain etc.) Makes me wonder if the girls, outdoor trips and sightseeing will be accessible. I have read that beaches are closed currently.[/QUOTE]Beaches in Cartagena are back to being open.
Hotel nutibara prices are insane now, they are charging more then double for what they were charging few days ago and for me its not worth anymore (around 70 USD per night) , Can anyone suggest a place to stay near parque berrio which is Chica friendly and similar or better then Hotel nutribara?
Thanks in advance.
I can't give out all my secrets. But girls suck dyck without knowing the hygiene's of a man all the time. Wise men know women think just like men. They just don't make it obvious. It's similar to having a bisexual girl choose a stranger in club to have a threesome. Its vibes that brings her to the decision. Remember that word vibes. You may learn something.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3052636]My experience has been the opposite, but this is from a and of 8-10. When the girls don't know each other I've found them to become jealous or more skeptical of the other girls hygiene and cleanliness, not to mention, less coordinated in their interactions with you. Also, some girls aren't truly attracted to women, despite agreeing to it. This has been across Costa Rica, Colombia, and Brazil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3052636]My experience has been the opposite, but this is from a and of 8-10. When the girls don't know each other I've found them to become jealous or more skeptical of the other girls hygiene and cleanliness, not to mention, less coordinated in their interactions with you. Also, some girls aren't truly attracted to women, despite agreeing to it. This has been across Costa Rica, Colombia, and Brazil.[/QUOTE]If you don't care about a lesbian show, I recommend doing threesomes with sisters or cousins. I developed a sub-specialty of fucking sisters when I was living in Buenos Aires, did about twelve sets including a set of 3, and did threesomes with about half of them. The best were two gals from Trujillo, Peru, who moved in with me for about three weeks. Probably the best three weeks of my life! To be clear, I do enjoy the occasional lesbian show and you're not going to get that with sisters (and if you did, it would be WAY too weird for me), but usually they are pretty comfortable with it if they are doing it at all. My deepest regret was not being able to screw both of a set of twins, but they had a strict policy of not sharing men. Maria Nieve and Maria Cristina. They looked an awful lot alike but not sure if they were identical. They were easy to tell apart, because one had fakies and the other didn't, which made my choice easy since I don't like fakies so chose MC.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3052530]DC, I left Cartagena two weeks ago. The water from the heavy storms in Cartagena always seems to take a while to totally dry off. Their water drainage system is not the best.[/QUOTE]Smelly Sewer Water on the street, especially at the corners, was there yesterday. Its their sewer system which gets backed up and cannot drain into the ocean. Smelled really bad, especially with the wind.
A lot of vendors, aggressive. I told several vendors "no moleste" and they continued. I almost punched a few, they certainly deserved it. They have nothing to lose by hounding you, and come from the island of Baru by launch every morning. There is a dock by the Hilton Hotel in Laguito, another behind Requissimos.
No desire for me to go back there. Getting hot again. January is the only month it cools off.
I'm coming to Medellin tomorrow, staying for a week. I'd like to check out New Life and potentially other casas, strip clubs, and / or prepago apartments.
I'm interested to know what is the number of polvos / rounds / fucks you normally get included in the price for an hour at New Life (and other casas / clubs in Medellin, if you know)?
In Bogota, the norm at casas and massage places, if you pay for an hour, is 2 rounds, or unlimited rounds, during the time. With the exception of some of the higher-class places near Unicentro where you usually only get 1 round, and have to pay extra to go again.
Thank you for the info, keep safe, and have fun!
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052679]
I'm interested to know what is the number of polvos / rounds / fucks you normally get included in the price for an hour at New Life (and other casas / clubs in Medellin, if you know)?
[/QUOTE]Have not personally done it. New Life has 30 minutes as a unit so you should be able to get one in 30 minutes, then extend another 30 minutes to get the second one.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3052647] But girls suck dyck without knowing the hygiene's of a man all the time[/QUOTE]Do they accept the used condom? I think that was the question.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3052127]Logic begs the question of why would we stay if we were dissatisfied with Medellin. .[/QUOTE]Just yesterday I saw the first image. Then I was looking for visa info , I saw the second image.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3052127] When you have the time you can find whatever you want at the price you want.[/QUOTE]This statement is self contradictory. Logic tells me it depends.
Back from a recent 10-day trip. I stayed in an air bnb in the Calasanz neighborhood, about a 10 minute walk from the Santa Lucia Metro station. Nice airbnb with a great view from the balcony. Guest friendly, but I didn't push it by brining over many different guests. I mostly saw my #1 girl from Facebook who I met a couple of years ago on my last trip. And one new girl from Facebook. Other than that I went to Energy twice, Conejitas once, Barra Ejecutiva once, and New Life twice. Energy was 200 mil for an hour, Conejitas 160 mil, the girl at Barra Ejecutiva asked for 250 but settled for 200, as has been reported here New Life is up to 85 mil for a half hour. My main Facebook girl 300 mil, and the new one 400. In talking with the owner of the air bnb, he said that a guy who stayed in my exact apartment was drugged and robbed a few months ago. Shit! I also found it interesting that a girl from New Life told me 75% of their customers are foreigners. Weather was decent all week. The rain came in smaller windows of a few hours when it came. Went golfing at La Macarena in Rio Negro a couple of times. Nice course, but it takes a while to drive out there. Went to a Nacional futbol game, and they won. Mostly enjoyed walking around the neighborhoods, which is easy to do in that part of town because it's mostly flat. Very nice vacation and I look forward to going back. But my next trip will be back to Cali later this year.
I am mildly surprised the New Life girl's estimate of foreign vs local customers is not higher than 75%.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3052749]Back from a recent 10-day trip. I stayed in an air bnb in the Calasanz neighborhood, about a 10 minute walk from the Santa Lucia Metro station. Nice airbnb with a great view from the balcony. Guest friendly, but I didn't push it by brining over many different guests. I mostly saw my #1 girl from Facebook who I met a couple of years ago on my last trip. And one new girl from Facebook. Other than that I went to Energy twice, Conejitas once, Barra Ejecutiva once, and New Life twice. Energy was 200 mil for an hour, Conejitas 160 mil, the girl at Barra Ejecutiva asked for 250 but settled for 200, as has been reported here New Life is up to 85 mil for a half hour. My main Facebook girl 300 mil, and the new one 400. In talking with the owner of the air bnb, he said that a guy who stayed in my exact apartment was drugged and robbed a few months ago. Shit! I also found it interesting that a girl from New Life told me 75% of their customers are foreigners. Weather was decent all week. The rain came in smaller windows of a few hours when it came. Went golfing at La Macarena in Rio Negro a couple of times. Nice course, but it takes a while to drive out there. Went to a Nacional futbol game, and they won. Mostly enjoyed walking around the neighborhoods, which is easy to do in that part of town because it's mostly flat. Very nice vacation and I look forward to going back. But my next trip will be back to Cali later this year.[/QUOTE]
I will explain further. I was referring to those of us who choose to stay and the logical conclusion that it is because we like it here. I agree it depends. It depends on whether or not Medellin suits you because no place is for everyone and everyone's personal circumstances are different. I meet more than a few foreigners who realize they don't like Colombia once the pixie dust of pulling their fill of attractive women wears off.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3052688]Just yesterday I saw the first image. Then I was looking for visa info , I saw the second image.
This statement is self contradictory. Logic tells me it depends.[/QUOTE]
This is a good question. The one hour rate is supposed to be two pops. I think the best technique is to go for a 30 minutes session then take a break and go for another 30 min session. It costs a little more but you are guaranteed two quality pops assuming neither girl is a dud.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052679]I'm coming to Medellin tomorrow, staying for a week. I'd like to check out New Life and potentially other casas, strip clubs, and / or prepago apartments.
I'm interested to know what is the number of polvos / rounds / fucks you normally get included in the price for an hour at New Life (and other casas / clubs in Medellin, if you know)?
In Bogota, the norm at casas and massage places, if you pay for an hour, is 2 rounds, or unlimited rounds, during the time. With the exception of some of the higher-class places near Unicentro where you usually only get 1 round, and have to pay extra to go again.
Thank you for the info, keep safe, and have fun![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Huacho;3052661]If you don't care about a lesbian show, I recommend doing threesomes with sisters or cousins. I developed a sub-specialty of fucking sisters when I was living in Buenos Aires, did about twelve sets including a set of 3, and did threesomes with about half of them. The best were two gals from Trujillo, Peru, who moved in with me for about three weeks. Probably the best three weeks of my life! To be clear, I do enjoy the occasional lesbian show and you're not going to get that with sisters (and if you did, it would be WAY too weird for me), but usually they are pretty comfortable with it if they are doing it at all. My deepest regret was not being able to screw both of a set of twins, but they had a strict policy of not sharing men. Maria Nieve and Maria Cristina. They looked an awful lot alike but not sure if they were identical. They were easy to tell apart, because one had fakies and the other didn't, which made my choice easy since I don't like fakies so chose MC.[/QUOTE]There are twins in Zona Norte (tijuana) who worked in the area for years. Both 8 and 9 in my measure, although now they are getting up in age. I had opportunities to have them both together, but I could not, did not want to do it. Seen them separately multiple times. I still cannot tell which is which so I always ask them, "are you the older or the younger. " The older one is very protective of her sister and she is more passionate in bed. The younger is a bit crazier and kinkier. They are still very popular with the hombres, always surrounded with a bunch guys at the clubs floors.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3052767]This is a good question. The one hour rate is supposed to be two pops. I think the best technique is to go for a 30 minutes session then take a break and go for another 30 min session. It costs a little more but you are guaranteed two quality pops assuming neither girl is a dud.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the tip! And the same to Nounce. I'll keep this in mind to try out.
Arrived in Medellin today, planned to go to New Life today and then check out Gringo Tuesdays in the evening. But exhaustion and a crazy bad headache all day has made me scratch those plans. I will probably just go to the Medellin Sports Bar at the San Peter for dinner tonight instead, and leave the start of the sexing marathon for tomorrow.
Where are hobbyists hanging out in the city these days?
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052834]Thank you for the tip! And the same to Nounce. I'll keep this in mind to try out.
Arrived in Medellin today, planned to go to New Life today and then check out Gringo Tuesdays in the evening. But exhaustion and a crazy bad headache all day has made me scratch those plans. I will probably just go to the Medellin Sports Bar at the San Peter for dinner tonight instead, and leave the start of the sexing marathon for tomorrow.
Where are hobbyists hanging out in the city these days?[/QUOTE]You prob got allititude sickness. Always have water and tylenol ready when you get off the plane to counter act it.
Gringo tuesdays are wack full of backpackers and miami scammer crypto bros. New Life has been falling off, try other casa like Eclipse or Angelas Spa.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3052914]You prob got allititude sickness. Always have water and tylenol ready when you get off the plane to counter act it.
Gringo tuesdays are wack full of backpackers and miami scammer crypto bros. New Life has been falling off, try other casa like Eclipse or Angelas Spa.[/QUOTE]Medellin is not even 1500 meters, doubt it was altitude sickness. Bogotá maybe could be.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052834]I will probably just go to the Medellin Sports Bar at the San Peter for dinner tonight instead[/QUOTE]I would go to Medellin Sports Bar on Friday between 8:00 and 10:00 pm They offer the girls the ability to win 50 k on a Friday and a free drink, so it tends to bring more of the girls out that night and more of the mongers. Not a big crowd, but you do run into some former girls from the mansion and some other people who are fun to talk to and hang out with.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;3052749]Back from a recent 10-day trip. I stayed in an air bnb in the Calasanz neighborhood, about a 10 minute walk from the Santa Lucia Metro station. Nice airbnb with a great view from the balcony. Guest friendly, but I didn't push it by brining over many different guests. I mostly saw my #1 girl from Facebook who I met a couple of years ago on my last trip. And one new girl from Facebook. Other than that I went to Energy twice, Conejitas once, Barra Ejecutiva once, and New Life twice. Energy was 200 mil for an hour, Conejitas 160 mil, the girl at Barra Ejecutiva asked for 250 but settled for 200, as has been reported here New Life is up to 85 mil for a half hour. My main Facebook girl 300 mil, and the new one 400. In talking with the owner of the air bnb, he said that a guy who stayed in my exact apartment was drugged and robbed a few months ago. Shit! I also found it interesting that a girl from New Life told me 75% of their customers are foreigners. Weather was decent all week. The rain came in smaller windows of a few hours when it came. Went golfing at La Macarena in Rio Negro a couple of times. Nice course, but it takes a while to drive out there. Went to a Nacional futbol game, and they won. Mostly enjoyed walking around the neighborhoods, which is easy to do in that part of town because it's mostly flat. Very nice vacation and I look forward to going back. But my next trip will be back to Cali later this year.[/QUOTE]I'm curious to know where the Airbnb was because I stayed in an apartment in the same area and my neighbor was supposedly drugged and robbed too. If it was the same apartment building and the same guy I got to know him quite well and question whether what he claimed is true, PM me if you want to, I can tell you where I stayed and all about that guy.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;3052914]You prob got allititude sickness. Always have water and tylenol ready when you get off the plane to counter act it.
Gringo tuesdays are wack full of backpackers and miami scammer crypto bros. New Life has been falling off, try other casa like Eclipse or Angelas Spa.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your advice. Where are Eclipse and Angelas Spa located? I couldn't find them on Google Maps. And from searching this thread, the only things with those names that turned up were:
Spa Angels Men's: Carrera 80 near Exito, Laureles.
Motel Eclipse: Diagonal 53, # 14-20, Bello.
Not sure if these are the right places. Found them mentioned in this post (old post with lots of info for places, not sure which are relevant anymore) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2472017#post2472017
What makes these places better than New Life, in your opinion? Any additional info or how to find them would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3052931]I would go to Medellin Sports Bar on Friday between 8:00 and 10:00 pm They offer the girls the ability to win 50 k on a Friday and a free drink, so it tends to bring more of the girls out that night and more of the mongers. Not a big crowd, but you do run into some former girls from the mansion and some other people who are fun to talk to and hang out with.[/QUOTE]Awesome, thank you for the info! If I don't end up with a date on Friday night, I'll probably check that out. I'm staying at another hotel nearby, so it'll be an easy place to stop by from time to time.
Best scenario, they do not mind no condom. But If its a girl who is concerned. You will have to use new condoms each switch. Even a cheapo like me don't mind that. The treat for me is seeing them both go at it passionately, and enjoying me mutually with foreplay.
[QUOTE=Nounce;3052686]Do they accept the used condom? I think that was the question.[/QUOTE]
Excellent report, thank you for sharing the information. Seems like you had a lot of fun, hope your next trip is just as fun wherever you go!
Playmates and Tantra now added to my list of places to check out. I plan to write up reports of any experiences I find useful or interesting this week.
[QUOTE=Tnfsh217;3051668]Back in Medellin after 4 years, and I was honestly shocked by the price inflation (close to 100% increase in many places) combined with noticeably lower overall quality. These days, it only feels worth it if you're already traveling here for other reasons not just for the sexaction.
I stayed at the Hilton Curio for 3 nights and got a free upgrade to a King Suite thanks to Diamond status. The room was excellent.
As an Asian guy, my tastes differ quite a bit from most Westerners, so this is very subjective. I still prefer thick bodies, big tits, and a nice ass ("cake" but I'm not into heavy tattoos or obvious plastic surgery.
Here's my breakdown of spots I checked out:
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[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052933]Thank you very much for your advice. Where are Eclipse and Angelas Spa located? I couldn't find them on Google Maps. And from searching this thread, the only things with those names that turned up were:
Spa Angels Men's: Carrera 80 near Exito, Laureles.
Motel Eclipse: Diagonal 53, # 14-20, Bello.
Not sure if these are the right places. Found them mentioned in this post (old post with lots of info for places, not sure which are relevant anymore) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2472017#post2472017
What makes these places better than New Life, in your opinion? Any additional info or how to find them would be greatly appreciated, thank you.[/QUOTE]I am in Medellin right now. Will post a review later but here is some helpful info.
Angeles Spa is Cra 81 #42-60.
Chicas Plus is calle 44 A 71-27.
Golden House 80 A 33-21.
All 3 casas are in Laureles. I thought Angeles had the hottest chicas. Also, if you can't find the address send them a WhatsApp. These casas have ads on Mileroticos. Just search for the spa and you will get info to their site with the girls' pictures and prices. Also, check out the Catadorcolumbia site for reviews. They even have an English forum.
New life has 30 chicas working. The girl quality is lower but if you play the numbers you should find a decent chica. Was surprised at the number of dudes waiting around for line ups. I found a good chica during the second line up. Was 30 minutes 85 mil+50 mil oral natural=135 mil COP (39 USD). Nice girl and good time. That price is hard to beat. Angeles Spa and similar Laureles casas are 1 hour 180 mil+80 mil oral natural. 30 minutes is 140 mil. Did not do a line up at Angeles but saw 4 chicas while waiting for my cita and they were all good 7,8's.
Excellent info, thank you! I'll look to Mileroticos for more details, thanks for the tip.
Since we're both in Medellin right now, maybe we'll run into each other at one of these places, haha. I'm about to head out right now. Deciding if I will go to New Life or Playmates Bar (Conejitas Grill), or perhaps try both if Conejitas has 30 minutes as an option.
Stay safe and have fun!
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3052961]I am in Medellin right now. Will post a review later but here is some helpful info.
Angeles Spa is Cra 81 #42-60.
Chicas Plus is calle 44 A 71-27.
Golden House 80 A 33-21.
All 3 casas are in Laureles. I thought Angeles had the hottest chicas. Also, if you can't find the address send them a WhatsApp. These casas have ads on Mileroticos. Just search for the spa and you will get info to their site with the girls' pictures and prices. Also, check out the Catadorcolumbia site for reviews. They even have an English forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3052967]Excellent info, thank you! I'll look to Mileroticos for more details, thanks for the tip.
Since we're both in Medellin right now, maybe we'll run into each other at one of these places, haha. I'm about to head out right now. Deciding if I will go to New Life or Playmates Bar (Conejitas Grill), or perhaps try both if Conejitas has 30 minutes as an option.
Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]Both is always better. Likewise, enjoy brother but let the big head do the thinking.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3052765]I will explain further. [/QUOTE]I mean one has to be realistic and willing to pay for what you want, sooner or later. This is a very poor country. It costs less to live but there is downside because of who most of us interact with are poorest of the poor.
I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?[/QUOTE]It's a bad idea, really bad. It's possible, though extremely unlikely, that you'll hit it off with the first girl you meet and happily spend four days together. A better plan is to sample a few and choose one where there's good chemistry between you, then make a deal for a longer period of time. I would recommend 1st time for one hour. If that's good, 2nd time a whole night. If that's good, a few days together.
Do you speak Spanish? Are you young and good-looking and personable?
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?[/QUOTE]You think you want that, but trust me, you don't. What you want is a girlfriend experience for the night. In other words, a girl that you can go to dinner with, have some drinks, fall in love, have a couple hours that are fantastic, and then call it a night. And then the next day, do it again with somebody else. That will be a lot more rewarding, less risky, less costly, and in the end, a much better experience.
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?[/QUOTE]Bad bad idea. They are prostitutes not girlfriends dude.
Hey fellas,
I've been talking to girls on seeking, I think 99% of them charge by the hour.
They all hit me with 600 cop per hour LOL, obviously I'm not paying that for an hour of fun. I believe I can get that much much cheaper, but wanted you to confirm.
What are the going rates near Parque Lleras? I'll be staying in Poblado for about 5 days or so next week and I will report back.
I RTFF but not too many people share their actual experiences and most importantly the rates. It will be my first time in Colombia, I do speak conversational Spanish and I don't look gringo if that matters. I am mostly interested in HHR dates since I'm a one shot guy usually, my hotel has a 200 cop per guest policy (my mistake I know). Is it better to take the girls to love motels?
Any recent up to date experience and intel is much appreciated. Cheers!
GA.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3053205]Bad bad idea. They are prostitutes not girlfriends dude.[/QUOTE]In response to
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]........I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin. Is that bad idea?...[/QUOTE].
Manizales, come on. As others have noted. Yes, bad idea to take a chica out for all-night or longer without first having a short-time, trial run. But, while most everyone on ISG understands that a puta is a puta, many (perhaps most all) of us are still seeking to obtain some form of what we would call the "Girlfriend Experience" or GFE for our money.
For a wrinkled geezer like myself that means a chica who's a decent actress, willing to pretend she's actually enjoying the sex, provides French kissing and BBBJ, and seems quite happy to hang out and chat for a while after we make leche rather than immediately showering and summoning her In-Driver.
My impression is that younger, reasonably good-looking guys, with some personality and Spanish fluency, and perhaps some latin dance skills as well, can obtain a quite genuine Girl Friend Experience. True, the chica wouldn't be there if she wasn't being paid. But at the same time, she can genuinely be into clubbing, dining, and hanging out with the guy for a day or two. The important thing for the gringo is to never forget that the relationship, at heart, remains transactional.
Of course, if I'm just hitting up multiple chicas a day in El Centro or the casas, that's a different story. Though even then, its common enough to use GFE simply to describe a good attitude (enthusiastic DFK, BBBJ, response to DATY perhaps).
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?[/QUOTE]The chicas that carry scopolamine or other drugs love that idea. Gives them privacy and a few days to find the right opportunity to drug you.
[QUOTE=Teront;3053070]I've been searching for while now, and these forum is the best. Hopefully I'll be able soon to share good information.
I love to have the girlfriend experience, and find one girl to stay the four days that I'm going stay at Medellin.
Is that bad idea?
Any advice?[/QUOTE]If you want GFE you need to go to Philippines. Medellin is the place for sampling unless you speak Spanish and are experienced.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3053217]My impression is that younger, reasonably good-looking guys, with some personality and Spanish fluency, and perhaps some latin dance skills as well, can obtain a quite genuine Girl Friend Experience.[/QUOTE]Why do folks keep talking about dancing? I have had tons of normal girlfriends in Latin America and fucked just as many hookers there, and none have ever insisted we go out dancing. I would say mostly it is personality and you can not really control that. You are who you are. And it would not help anyway, because the same as looks, people are attracted to different types of personalities. Just be yourself and don't try to fit into what you think or assume someone is looking for.
[QUOTE=GeekAuto;3053214]Hey fellas,
I've been talking to girls on seeking, I think 99% of them charge by the hour.
They all hit me with 600 cop per hour LOL, obviously I'm not paying that for an hour of fun. I believe I can get that much much cheaper, but wanted you to confirm.
What are the going rates near Parque Lleras? I'll be staying in Poblado for about 5 days or so next week and I will report back.
I RTFF but not too many people share their actual experiences and most importantly the rates. It will be my first time in Colombia, I do speak conversational Spanish and I don't look gringo if that matters. I am mostly interested in HHR dates since I'm a one shot guy usually, my hotel has a 200 cop per guest policy (my mistake I know). Is it better to take the girls to love motels?.[/QUOTE]I quit Seeking over a year ago. I was at Parque Lleras last week but did not pull anyone. I normally find girls on Tinder anywhere from 200 k -500 k. I have group of girls who I alternate during different visits some I have met from Seeking in the past and a few from El Centro and of course Tinder / Instagram.
The best experiences are girls who don't talk about how much time. I usually get girls who actually have jobs. I don't need a lot of time but I don't like to be rushed either. I like to make videos and most are compliant.
It might be best to not plan to find everything you want in the park. I leave a space for anyone who I meet spontaneously.
I wrapped up my first trip to Columbia last week. I took a short 5 day trip to dip my toe into Medellin to see what it was like. The first day it rained like 5 hours at night, like poured. Other than that weather was good and what you expect from the city of eternal spring. Overall, it was a good trip. I had been contemplating visiting for a while but put it off due to the news of it being dangerous, I. E. Robberies, drugging, etc. Before planning my trip I did a lot of research. This post is to help others thinking about visiting Medellin for the first time. I am by no means an expert, these are just my impressions or what I learned. Also, keep in mind this is from the perspective of a middle aged, fit solo traveler. What I lack in youth, I make up for in wealth. I am on PREP and have mongered in many different countries and have been at the game now for almost two decades. My Spanish right now is limited to basic conversations. Knowing Spanish is a definite plus. Not sure how guys do it with only English. There are girls that speak English but they are limited and higher priced.
Lodging:
My flight arrived at 8:15 am so immigration was a breeze, like less than 5 minutes. I booked a day place to stay until I could check into my Airbnb at 4 pm. The place I booked was Hotel Ryo74 b in Laureles. Its a legit place and very nice for 6 hours $62. Its not a sleazy by the hour place. I could see a budget traveler staying here for a week. It had a restaurant, gym, etc. In room kitchenette and all other amenities.
The rest of my trip I stayed at the Energy Living building in El Poblado. It's a nice place and 10 minutes or less Uber to chica central. They take there security very serious there, requiring registration and even take a photo of the girl. I would guess 80% of the people staying there are mongers pulling girls from Parque Lleras. I had a classy place wood floors, leather furniture, awesome mood lighting, 75 inch TVs, bar, sound system, private balcony and Jacuzzi and a great view of the city ($280/ night). That said if I come back to Medellin again I will definitely stay in Laureles. I found myself going to Laureles a lot. I thought the restaurant scene was better, more interesting areas and also the better chica houses (casas de citas), were close to or in Laureles / Estadio. The main draw of El Poblado is Parque Lleras, which to be honest was not my thing (will describe more later in the post).
Research and Resources:
There are pearls of wisdom to be sifted out the conversations on this forum. I especially like some of the "posts of distinction" for useful information.
There is a local chica review site Catador Columbia that was helpful.
Chica Venues:
As others have posted you have several options for meeting the hot ladies of Medellin. Check out the Medellin List forum for a list of these places. I will provide addresses for the places I visited so you have them but the list forum is more comprehensive.
Chica Houses. Located primarily in Laureles and El Centrol you enter (buzzed into) these non-descript places and can see a line up (presentacion) of chicas. They are sometimes called spa but its really a brothel and was never offered a massage. Very similar to the chica houses in Spain. Also, some of the houses have their own websites where you can browse the women and make a date with them for a duration and time. These websites also have the services offered and the prices clearly stated. To make a date / appt (cita) you can call the house Whatsapp or some chicas also advertise on Mileroticos or Pasionprepagos. If you reach out to a chica via Whatapp and want an in call they will direct you to the casa. You usually need to give them 1 or 2 hours advance notice for the appointment, maybe longer if the chica is very popular. Also, some of the casa chicas do outcalls to your place.
Prepagos. These are sites where you can browse for hourly escorts that offer in-call or outcall services. The most popular sites I found were Pasionprepagos, mileroticos, photopregos. If you want high end options the following sites are good and many women offer lower prices for longer durations. La Celestine, Escortsfantasia, lasnenasbogota (have Medellin listings), alacartvip. For the common three sites you Whatapp the provider and negotiate services, duration, location and prices. The higher end sites have all that listed out.
Strip Clubs. Yes, just like in the western world and you can also take them to a room onsite for full menu of services. As mentioned on this forum the two most popular joints are Fase Dos, La Isla. There are others you can see on the list forum. I was planning to visit Fase Dos but ran out of time. I went to their site and watched some videos and based on what I saw the girls didn't seem any higher quality to what I saw in some of the better casas and where much more expensive. Others saying $600 mil COP to take a chica back to room. I have it on my to do for a future trip.
Streetwalkers and Parque Lleras. Some of the main areas are El Botero in El Centro and Parque Lleras in El Poblado. I checked out El Botero and did not see anything good. Mostly bigger chicas. Parque Lleras I checked out first in the day to see what the venue was like. Its a park about two blocks long and one block wide surrounded by clubs, bars and shops. I actually saw a couple of providers out in the day, one was a real young cutie. She was eyeing me up and was tempted to see her offer and check her age but had just got back from a casas and had planned to rest at my place before going out on the night. Came back the next day at night. In and on my way to the park I was solicited for drugs four times. IMO you would have to be crazy to buy drugs here. Undeniable there are some young working girls here that are hot, usually standing around in pairs or small groups, with an occasional single woman. I went somewhat early at 10 pm on a Wednesday was probably about 30-40 chicas standing around. The scene is mainly groups of young guys there to party and then pick up chicas. Although I did see quite a few couples walking around. Like salt of the earth average couples walking the park hand in hand. I did talk to two women to see what they were offering, they were friendly and transaction oriented. Quoted me $400 mil to begin and also tried to persuade me into doing a threesome. I did not ask for cedula so not sure their ages. Overall, this scene made me uncomfortable, especially the groups of young dudes hanging out, some tourists, some locals. In general, I think you are rolling the dice if you go to PL. You can truly luck out and find a hottie that will give you good service for a good price or one that is setting you up to be robbed or drugged. I would rather pay more for less uncertainty. If you are a criminal that wants to target a rich tourist they all know Poblado and PL is the place to go.
Massage Spas. Did not partake of this venue. Its similar to the western world with happy ending to full service.
Seeking and Tinder. Read so many horror stories about using these apps and getting robbed or drugged in Medellin. May be more dangerous than Parque Lleras. Did not use these at all.
My Experiences:
I mainly visited the chica houses and the prepago scene. The two houses with the best chicas IMO were Angeles Spa and Eclipse in Laureles. I would post both of there catalog sites where you can see prices and girls but I don't think I am allowed to on this forum. Any easy way to find them is to go to Mileroticos and under Medellin search Angeles and Eclipse and their ads with Whatapps # will display. Eclipse is in Simon Bolivar Send them a text and an auto message will give you the catalog sites and can ask who is available at the time. Of course, you can always show up at the place and when they answer the door say you are there for the "presentacion". All the house charge extra for oral natural (BBBJ). Some even charge for kisses. Yes, some chicas will do BBFS for a charge, many will not. Angeles was 180 mil for an hour plus 80 mil for oral natural. Eclipse is 160 mil for an hour, 60 mil oral natural. The two chicas I visited at these locations were both hot, highly reviewed and highly rated and my sessions were both good and the ladies were very nice after the act and we had a good conversation before I took off. FYI. If you want to take a shower in the casas after you get all sweaty with the girls the water is cold. Nothing like a cold shower after sex to wake you up. LOL. Interestingly enough the only casa I visited that had warm water was New Life. Place is an institution!
I also visited the sister house of Angeles called Chicas Plus. I put the address in another post. This was right after I arrived and it was 1 pm on a Monday so only three girls working. However, two of the three were good. I went with a young flaca Morena with a great ass, beautiful face and natural be size titties. Solid one hour session! Pricing same as Angeles Spa. I wanted to hit up another Flaca at Golden House in Laureles but she was not working my last two days in town so had to pass.
I did hit El central and its a lively place during the day. Checked out Plaza Botero not much talent there lots of people. I had mapped out Amigas Sexy, New Life and Doll House as places to go. I decided on New Life since its talked about the most on this forum. I took an uber there from the plaza (about 5 minutes). Walked up to the blue door (Calle 56 #43-39) and went up the stairs. The place is an institution. A lady is there to receive you, asks if you have an appt or want the lineup and shows you to one of many small waiting rooms. I was surprised how many guys were sitting in the small waiting rooms to select a lady. Its truly the mixing pot of the world with white, black, asian, latino guys hanging out looking for a chica. I had barely sat down and was looking at the listed prices when the line up began. Six chicas came by and introduced themselves. Saw one passable lady but the rest were no bueno. Decided to wait for a second line up. Waited for a second line up with some new girls and I like the last chica in the line up and quickly told the attendance women so I could get her before someone else did. She came back and we went to the room. I decided to do 30 minutes as I wanted to head back to Poblado to prep for my in home chica visit later. Good session with a tall, not fat not slim but nice fake tits and ass chica. Sex plus oral natural solid! She had a good attitude and was nice. Warm shower, kiss and goodbye. Damage $38 and change. Pay the chica for oral and pay at an attendant at a pay counter for the 30 minutes $85 mil charge. Chicas all over the place. Easy to find back exit. The attendant told me about 30 chicas are working. I can see how people can get addicted to Medellin, especially if you are on a budget.
I had two chicas visit me at my place but I generally don't do overnights as I don't sleep well with people in bed with me, especially women who are essentially strangers. I read multiple positive reviews on both chicas. I won't out her but the first chica was from one of the casa de citas I already mentioned, easily a 7 or 8 based on what you like. Brought her to my place for three hours, had drinks, sex and soaked in the hot tub afterwards. I had a fantastic time and what a great lady. Every thing on the menu but anal and BBFS, total GFE. Price was 1,140 mil COP ($310), gave her 1200 mil plus cost of two Ubers. Would definitely repeat with this fine women.
The second chica was from the Pasion site. Taller blonde chica, not the best face but with a big ass and big tits and a total fireball. The women was crazy but in a good way and high energy and funny on top of it. I had her come over for two hours and after greeting each other and talking for 5 minutes she jumped on me. From there it was a tornado of DFK, BBBJ, sex and also anal. The women had the best head game I encountered in Medellin by far. Total deep throat and invited me to cum in her mouth and on her face. We never made it to the hot tub and spent most of the two hours in bed. I met this women on my last night in town or I would definitely have seen her again. Total Service Queen! Damage was 300 mil / hour including BBBJ and 140 mil anal total 800 mil + 2 ubers.
Safety. Call me paranoid but better safe than sorry:
I tried to keep a low profile. When I went out to meet the chicas I did not wear sneakers, sunglasses, a cap, or shorts. There are so many obvious tourists in El Poblado just screaming to be robbed. While I keep a low profile I am in no way kidding myself that I look like a local. Besides as soon as you start talking the gringo accent is not fooling anyone. If you are going solo definitely keep a low profile.
Don't walk around a lot. Always take an Uber places. Like in Laureles its easy to walk around to see things or visit restaurants / bars but there are many reports of people walking alone and being robbed at gunpoint or knifepoint. El Poblado is smaller and more condensed so you can walk it. My rule of thumb was if it took more than 10 minutes to walk somewhere I called an Uber. Don't take taxis as they are not safe. Sit in the front seat with you Uber driver. Uber legality in Columbia is muddy. Also, Uber drivers are harassed by taxi drivers and police. However, saying this Uber is still very common in Medellin. Therefore, do your driver a favor and sit in the front seat. Also, be aware they will not pick you up in the taxi area of the airport but ask you to go to the parking lot.
Stay at a Secure Lodging. This means if you plan to bring any chicas back to your place, ensure you are staying at a place that has security and makes the chica register and show ID. I stayed at the Energy Living Building in Poblado. It is excellent from that standpoint. They take a picture of the chica as part of registration and also you have to escort her out or call and let them know a women is leaving. Unless you want to get drugged having good security is a must. Be selective in who you invite to your place.
Don't get wasted or so high you leave yourself open to theft. Yes seems like common sense but I think this happens a lot.
Put things of value in a safe, lock them away or hide them. Even if your place has security a chica can steal from you without any drugs. Put money, wallet, car keys, jewelry or anything else of value that can fit in a ladies bag, in the safe or a hidden place.
Don't talk to people on the street. Many people will try to sell you stuff or beg money or want something from you. Just say no and shake your head and move on. Don't engage with them.
Outdoor seating in tourist areas, if you eat at a restaurant with outdoor seating or open air seating, don't sit at the tables close to the side walks or outside near streets. Its safer plus you won't be harassed by people trying to sell you stuff.
Last Impressions:
As I said above I can see the draw of Medellin. Vibrant, beautiful city that is very affordable. Chicas were undeniably hot and all services I received were good and the chicas were all nice. The down side is as a gringo you are a walking target, especially going solo. And as more of us go to Medellin for sex tourism the worse its going to get. You have to take the bad with the good. I have met Columbianas and even Paisas in other countries (Panama, St. Martin, Spain) and while its a little more expense its the same quality and style of women but without the danger. Would I return to Medellin? Most likely I will, but its not at the top of my list right now. I think my next visit to Columbia will probably be Bogota. I hope this posts helps all you first timers out there.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053358]
Last Impressions:
As I said above I can see the draw of Medellin. Vibrant, beautiful city that is very affordable. Chicas were undeniably hot and all services I received were good and the chicas were all nice. The down side is as a gringo you are a walking target, especially going solo. And as more of us go to Medellin for sex tourism the worse its going to get. You have to take the bad with the good. I have met Columbianas and even Paisas in other countries (Panama, St. Martin, Spain) and while its a little more expense its the same quality and style of women but without the danger. Would I return to Medellin? Most likely I will, but its not at the top of my list right now. I think my next visit to Columbia will probably be Bogota. I hope this posts helps all you first timers out there.[/QUOTE]Great report man. I thank you. Thanks for taking the time to share you experiences. It is even more interesting to me because it was your first time. You touched on all items a newbie would ask.
The way you described those casas, with dudes sitting around waiting for line-up show together, (correct? All in one room waiting?) makes me cringe. I once experienced it in SF in the US years ago and I bolted out of there felling disgusted. It is an idea I need to contemplate about before I ever go there. My style is what you described in the strip clubs. You chat up the girls, have a drink etc. And go up if you like her.
You are right, that park in the Tourist area seems to be a good scouting spot for people who want to do bad things to gringos. It could be fun but comes with danger as well. Bummer!
You did not mention FaceBook. It seems in Colombia girls use Facebook to keep contact with their Johns much more regularly and willingly than say the girls in Tijuana. I have a lot of contacts I kept and grown to hundreds of girls over the years. Around 2017 I was ready to go so I started chatting with few girls and kept them as contacts but my situation changed and the rip never happened. I continued takling the girls, moving them from FB to Whatsapp. Some even sent me some lewd videos for a small fee. They introduced me to their friends and relatives, I kept those as contacts in Whatsapp and FB. Now I am sitting with 100's of Colombian Chicas as FB contacts.
This is something I've never understood. I suspect it's some sort of alternative to conversation. When guys insist it is mandatory and indispensable it confuses me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3053273]Why do folks keep talking about dancing? I have had tons of normal girlfriends in Latin America and fucked just as many hookers there, and none have ever insisted we go out dancing. I would say mostly it is personality and you can not really control that. You are who you are. And it would not help anyway, because the same as looks, people are attracted to different types of personalities. Just be yourself and don't try to fit into what you think or assume someone is looking for.[/QUOTE]
You've done the lord's work with this post. It's an excellent first timer's guide.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053358]I wrapped up my first trip to Columbia last week. I took a short 5 day trip to dip my toe into Medellin to see what it was like. The first day it rained like 5 hours at night, like poured. Other than that weather was good and what you expect from the city of eternal spring. Overall, it was a good trip. I had been contemplating visiting for a while but put it off due to the news of it being dangerous, I. E. Robberies, drugging, etc. Before planning my trip I did a lot of research. This post is to help others thinking about visiting Medellin for the first time. I am by no means an expert, these are just my impressions or what I learned. Also, keep in mind this is from the perspective of a middle aged, fit solo traveler. What I lack in youth, I make up for in wealth. I am on PREP and have mongered in many different countries and have been at the game now for almost two decades. My Spanish right now is limited to basic conversations. Knowing Spanish is a definite plus. Not sure how guys do it with only English. There are girls that speak English but they are limited and higher priced..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3053534]This is something I've never understood. I suspect it's some sort of alternative to conversation. When guys insist it is mandatory and indispensable it confuses me.[/QUOTE]If the girls really like you beyond what you do in the sack then they will interested in activities like dancing. This can happen if you see someone on a regular basis. They will want to know you more and be with you.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053358]I wrapped up my first trip to Columbia last week. I took a short 5 day trip to dip my toe into Medellin to see what it was like.[/QUOTE]Excellent report, incredibly well done. The only thing I wonder is why you found the restaurant choices in Laureles better. I've stayed in both and prefer coming back to Manila / Poblado because of the restaurant choices, which I found quite lacking in Laureles (lots of street foot / street restaurants, but not the variety I've come to enjoy in Poblado). Of course, some excellent places in Laureles, I do go there on ocassion to eat, but not the wider variety I prefer in the Poblado area.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3053534]This is something I've never understood. I suspect it's some sort of alternative to conversation. When guys insist it is mandatory and indispensable it confuses me.[/QUOTE]That is because not everyone is the same as you. Everyone has different needs and desires. What you would like is not necessarily what others like.
Could you expand on this for having successful GFE in Medellin (your tips and suggestions to have this become possible)?
I can speak basic Spanish.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3053234]If you want GFE you need to go to Philippines. Medellin is the place for sampling unless you speak Spanish and are experienced.[/QUOTE]
Awesome detailed report! Glad you had a great time. I'm planning to write reports of my experiences here when I get more time, been busy here.
That second chica of yours from the Pasion site sounds a lot like the Venezuelan MILF I picked up in El Centro last year: total fireball, funny and crazy, great head and enthusiastic sex. I wrote a report about that one a few months back. Do you have a link to or name to search for her on the Pasion site? She sounds like my kind of chica. Thanks in advance if you can supply the info!
Hope your next trip is just as good, wherever you end up!
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053358]
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The second chica was from the Pasion site. Taller blonde chica, not the best face but with a big ass and big tits and a total fireball. The women was crazy but in a good way and high energy and funny on top of it. I had her come over for two hours and after greeting each other and talking for 5 minutes she jumped on me. From there it was a tornado of DFK, BBBJ, sex and also anal. The women had the best head game I encountered in Medellin by far. Total deep throat and invited me to cum in her mouth and on her face. We never made it to the hot tub and spent most of the two hours in bed. I met this women on my last night in town or I would definitely have seen her again. Total Service Queen! Damage was 300 mil / hour including BBBJ and 140 mil anal total 800 mil + 2 ubers.
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[QUOTE=Nottymrme;3053675]Could you expand on this for having successful GFE in Medellin (your tips and suggestions to have this become possible)?
I can speak basic Spanish.[/QUOTE]In my experience, this really depends on the chica. Some are simply more friendly and passionate and affectionate, and will give you that girlfriend feeling while you are with them. Either they actually enjoy what they do, or they are just much better actresses than the others. Other chicas will be more distant and cold by nature (although they might warm up over time with multiple sessions as you get to know each other better.) So if you are looking for GFE you need to sample lots of different chicas to find the ones you click with and who will treat you more personably and affectionately.
Besides sampling to play the odds, the other thing you can do is treat them like a human being, like a date. Be kind, be friendly, be polite, try to be charming or funny if that is in your nature. If the chica is into it, she may respond in kind. And yes, speaking Spanish helps a lot.
IME, I have gotten the most / best GFE at casas. With Tinder chicas it sometimes goes that way, but other times more cold. Streetwalkers are usually cold.
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=Nottymrme;3053675]Could you expand on this for having successful GFE in Medellin (your tips and suggestions to have this become possible)?
I can speak basic Spanish.[/QUOTE]If you speak basic Spanish I think you're much better off. In my experience you're more likely to get GFE from online escorts and possibly casas. Street walkers are going to be more distant by nature.
Being complementary and accommodating with good small talk will go a long way. The more you make it business-like, wham-bam-thank you ma'am now gtfo, then that's how she'll do too.
SE Asia is the only place where GFE is basically guaranteed. Thai women are very accommodating but Filipinas will fuck you like it's your 10 year anniversary, especially if you pay them well which is pennies in usd.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3053733]If you speak basic Spanish I think you're much better off. In my experience you're more likely to get GFE from online escorts and possibly casas. Street walkers are going to be more distant by nature.
Being complementary and accommodating with good small talk will go a long way. The more you make it business-like, wham-bam-thank you ma'am now gtfo, then that's how she'll do too.
SE Asia is the only place where GFE is basically guaranteed. Thai women are very accommodating but Filipinas will fuck you like it's your 10 year anniversary, especially if you pay them well which is pennies in usd.[/QUOTE]"SE Asia is the only place where GFE is basically guaranteed. Thai women are very accommodating but Filipinas will fuck you like it's your 10 year anniversary, especially if you pay them well which is pennies in usd. "
This is absolutely not true. SE Asia is just as hit or miss as Colombia. Thai and Filipina women can be very transactional. Filipinas are generally average in bed. The price is not pennies in USD in the PI.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3053651]Excellent report, incredibly well done. The only thing I wonder is why you found the restaurant choices in Laureles better. I've stayed in both and prefer coming back to Manila / Poblado because of the restaurant choices, which I found quite lacking in Laureles (lots of street foot / street restaurants, but not the variety I've come to enjoy in Poblado). Of course, some excellent places in Laureles, I do go there on ocassion to eat, but not the wider variety I prefer in the Poblado area.[/QUOTE]For the chains I think they have some of the same restaurants in both locations. I liked the Segundo Parque Laureles area with many good restaurants in that area. For me they were better but maybe I didn't hit the right places in Poblado. I tried to eat at Medallo in Poblado but couldn't get in there.
Gents, is this real? Some of you might have seen it.
[URL]https://x.com/kalletiRey/status/2026110938068230237[/URL]
The only segundo parque restaurant that no longer has a Poblado location is Ammazza. It closed down a few months back. All the others, Rocoto, Mistura, La Causa, Pomodoro, etc. They all have Poblado locations.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053843]For the chains I think they have some of the same restaurants in both locations. I liked the Segundo Parque Laureles area with many good restaurants in that area. For me they were better but maybe I didn't hit the right places in Poblado. I tried to eat at Medallo in Poblado but couldn't get in there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3053863]Gents, is this real? Some of you might have seen it.
[URL]https://x.com/kalletiRey/status/2026110938068230237[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like AI to me. What is up with the girl in red, what happened to her legs, what exactly is she sitting on? Look at the girl in green. Does she have only 1 leg? If she has 2, her right leg must be uncomfortably folded up underneath her.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3053863]Gents, is this real? Some of you might have seen it.
[URL]https://x.com/kalletiRey/status/2026110938068230237[/URL][/QUOTE]Not real. But would be cool if it was.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3053651]Excellent report, incredibly well done. The only thing I wonder is why you found the restaurant choices in Laureles better. I've stayed in both and prefer coming back to Manila / Poblado because of the restaurant choices, which I found quite lacking in Laureles (lots of street foot / street restaurants, but not the variety I've come to enjoy in Poblado). Of course, some excellent places in Laureles, I do go there on ocassion to eat, but not the wider variety I prefer in the Poblado area.[/QUOTE]What do you want to do, travelling to Medellin, get your dick wet? Or wet your appetite? I can stay home for a restaurant!
Does anyone know where to get cheap massages w / o sex.
I was by Pizza Hut on Calle Diez and they were saying 250-300 mil.
I thought for sure they were talking about sex, nope just massage.
(those are EU prices) for a woman standing on the street no less.
I go to a massage for a massage.
If I want sex I pay a hooker.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3053863]Gents, is this real? Some of you might have seen it.
[URL]https://x.com/kalletiRey/status/2026110938068230237[/URL][/QUOTE]100% fake. BTW, paisas would be smiling all the time trying to get your attention.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053907]Not real. But would be cool if it was.[/QUOTE]They have something like this in Seoul in Yeongdeungpo. Would be great if this existed in the Latin world.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3053910]What do you want to do, travelling to Medellin, get your dick wet? Or wet your appetite? I can stay home for a restaurant![/QUOTE]Agreed, I am not sure why people get so hung up on food when travelling for pussy. I'd rather eat a 5 ranked ass and pussy versus 5 star restaraunt.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053922]They have something like this in Seoul in Yeongdeungpo. Would be great if this existed in the Latin world.[/QUOTE]I'd say closest thing would be casas or massage spots. But they have less women obviously or I mean even streetwalkers are kinda the same thing except you got to take them back to your place.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3053918]Does anyone know where to get cheap massages w / o sex.
I was by Pizza Hut on Calle Diez and they were saying 250-300 mil.
I thought for sure they were talking about sex, nope just massage.
(those are EU prices) for a woman standing on the street no less.
I go to a massage for a massage.
If I want sex I pay a hooker.[/QUOTE]Why do guys travel overseas for a regular massage when you can get that in the USA? Just fuck pussy overseas and get a massage in USA.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053922]They have something like this in Seoul in Yeongdeungpo. Would be great if this existed in the Latin world.[/QUOTE]I was just in Seoul, and missed out. But, there will be another trip soon.
[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;3053358]The rest of my trip I stayed at the Energy Living building in El Poblado.[/QUOTE]How is their visitor policy? Is the any Chica fee? I am planning on visiting in April and this and Haven is on shortlist of lodging.
[QUOTE=Thair9999;3053938]How is their visitor policy? Is the any Chica fee? I am planning on visiting in April and this and Haven is on shortlist of lodging.[/QUOTE]My friend stayed there last year and there is no guest fee.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3053863]Gents, is this real? Some of you might have seen it.
[URL]https://x.com/kalletiRey/status/2026110938068230237[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely fake but reminds me of my first trip to Europe in 1973. RLD in Amsterdam where I could not afford the dames and had to buy mags and wank.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053927]Why do guys travel overseas for a regular massage when you can get that in the USA? Just fuck pussy overseas and get a massage in USA.[/QUOTE]They don't travel overseas to get a massage. They are overseas and want a massage to relax. Just because you can get it in the USA, doesn't mean you want to forsake it overseas. Not everyone has the same desires as you. Everyone is different with different needs and desires.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053925]Agreed, I am not sure why people get so hung up on food when travelling for pussy. I'd rather eat a 5 ranked ass and pussy versus 5 star restaraunt.[/QUOTE]Because people don't just travel for pussy at least I don't. People travel for different reasons. Visiting different places, and eating well are some of the highlights of travel.
Upon returning to Colombia, I encountered significant delays with the immigration process. After landing at 9:00 PM, the processing time took over three hours, and I was unable to exit the airport until 12:15 AM. The experience highlighted some substantial inefficiencies in the current arrival procedures.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3054022]Because people don't just travel for pussy at least I don't. People travel for different reasons. Visiting different places, and eating well are some of the highlights of travel.[/QUOTE]Colombia distinguishes itself as an exceptionally cost-effective destination for sourcing local ingredients. In my experience, it is one of the few regions where high-quality proteins are remarkably affordable; for instance, I was able to purchase 15 lbs of oxtail for under $6 USD. This single purchase provided enough sustenance for several days of meals, highlighting the country's impressive value for self-catering travelers.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053925]Agreed, I am not sure why people get so hung up on food when travelling for pussy. I'd rather eat a 5 ranked ass and pussy versus 5 star restaraunt.[/QUOTE]Why not have both? Honestly, I think the Medellin food culture has gotten so good that I would probably still return just for the food and the countryside. The exchange rate makes it possible to have some amazing restaurant experiences that in the United States would simply be not possible on a frequent basis.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3054065]Upon returning to Colombia, I encountered significant delays with the immigration process. After landing at 9:00 PM, the processing time took over three hours, and I was unable to exit the airport until 12:15 AM. The experience highlighted some substantial inefficiencies in the current arrival procedures.[/QUOTE]What day was this? Happened to me on a Friday last month. 2 hour immigration wait. It sucked and was hot.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3054021]They don't travel overseas to get a massage. They are overseas and want a massage to relax. Just because you can get it in the USA, doesn't mean you want to forsake it overseas. Not everyone has the same desires as you. Everyone is different with different needs and desires.[/QUOTE]Kinda gay to be honest.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054090]Why not have both? Honestly, I think the Medellin food culture has gotten so good that I would probably still return just for the food and the countryside. The exchange rate makes it possible to have some amazing restaurant experiences that in the United States would simply be not possible on a frequent basis.[/QUOTE]Idk I learned how to put the fork down and not eat everything. Food doesn't impress me, probably a lot of fat guys here for food as I see from pics these guys post.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053927]Why do guys travel overseas for a regular massage when you can get that in the USA? Just fuck pussy overseas and get a massage in USA.[/QUOTE]They were doing massages in Lleras Park when I was there a few weeks ago. If you want a better one they can come to your place. I don't do it because sex is cheaper.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3053927]Why do guys travel overseas for a regular massage when you can get that in the USA? Just fuck pussy overseas and get a massage in USA.[/QUOTE]For $50 in Medellin the hottest girls like to say they are "massage therapists" but no insertions. Reality is if you "respect" them enough. Often the massage is as good as full on sex. Girls like to make the massage as the warm up. I used to tell them, "I didn't fly thousands of miles for a massage" then a girl in Brazil said "shall we make a mess?" and dumped a bottle of oil on us. Then slid her entire body all over me, not using her hands as much as her body. . I changed my mind about massages. It depends on the girl and wtf she wants to do. No I'm not gay.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3054065]Upon returning to Colombia, I encountered significant delays with the immigration process. After landing at 9:00 PM, the processing time took over three hours, and I was unable to exit the airport until 12:15 AM. The experience highlighted some substantial inefficiencies in the current arrival procedures.[/QUOTE]Last time I arrived, I saw these three African-American men on the airplane, well built, in their 30's. They obviously work out at a gym often. They walked onto the plane carrying large carry-on bags without a problem and seemed ready to go down and have some real serious fun in Medellin. But when we landed and got to immigration, all three were in wheelchairs being pushed by staff. The immigration guys actually were looking at them quite annoyed. Guest what, after immigration they were magically healed and were picking up their luggage on their own and walking out to get a cab. Can't get more entitled than that, abusing the system to bypass the lines.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054195]Last time I arrived, I saw these three African-American men on the airplane, well built, in their 30's. They obviously work out at a gym often. They walked onto the plane carrying large carry-on bags without a problem and seemed ready to go down and have some real serious fun in Medellin. But when we landed and got to immigration, all three were in wheelchairs being pushed by staff. The immigration guys actually were looking at them quite annoyed. Guest what, after immigration they were magically healed and were picking up their luggage on their own and walking out to get a cab. Can't get more entitled than that, abusing the system to bypass the lines.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that really sucks. I am old enough to use the special line, but I don't. If and when I actually need it, I will. But although I am over 65 there is nothing wrong with me to where I can't stand in line like everybody else.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054090]Why not have both? Honestly, I think the Medellin food culture has gotten so good that I would probably still return just for the food and the countryside. The exchange rate makes it possible to have some amazing restaurant experiences that in the United States would simply be not possible on a frequent basis.[/QUOTE]One lesson I've learned from my time on this board is that everyone has an opinion on the 'correct' way to live. However, the economic reality speaks for itself. If enjoying high-quality, affordable food is a fault, then most of us are 'guilty. '
The cost of living in Colombia remains a major draw. Anyone claiming the price gap has closed likely hasn't stepped into a USA Grocery store lately; your budget goes significantly further here. I value the culture and the family-centric environment, and like many of us, I'm here because Colombia offers a quality of life—and a social scene—that is hard to match elsewhere. At the end of the day, the beautiful women on an affordable rate, is the real reason we are here!
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054195]Last time I arrived, I saw these three African-American men on the airplane, well built, in their 30's. They obviously work out at a gym often. They walked onto the plane carrying large carry-on bags without a problem and seemed ready to go down and have some real serious fun in Medellin. But when we landed and got to immigration, all three were in wheelchairs being pushed by staff. The immigration guys actually were looking at them quite annoyed. Guest what, after immigration they were magically healed and were picking up their luggage on their own and walking out to get a cab. Can't get more entitled than that, abusing the system to bypass the lines.[/QUOTE]The immigration process exceeded three hours, during which I witnessed a number of unusual occurrences that seemed inconsistent with typical operations.
AA Plane shot in Colombia, possibly while landing at Medellin Airport.
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.com/amp/International/colombian-authorities-investigate-bullet-holes-found-american-airlines/story%3fid=130468155[/URL]
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3054067]Colombia distinguishes itself as an exceptionally cost-effective destination for sourcing local ingredients. In my experience, it is one of the few regions where high-quality proteins are remarkably affordable; for instance, I was able to purchase 15 lbs of oxtail for under $6 USD. This single purchase provided enough sustenance for several days of meals, highlighting the country's impressive value for self-catering travelers.[/QUOTE]Starchy diet IMO. You have the typical CO meal there with potato, rice and beans on the same plate. Minimal veggies are given anywhere. I'm here for the puddy, not the food. Thailand has the best food-period.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3054206]The immigration process exceeded three hours, during which I witnessed a number of unusual occurrences that seemed inconsistent with typical operations.[/QUOTE]I am injured. It only takes 5 minutes to get through a long immigration line. They take you to a special lane it saves me a lot grief.
This is 100% AI.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3053906]Looks like AI to me. What is up with the girl in red, what happened to her legs, what exactly is she sitting on? Look at the girl in green. Does she have only 1 leg? If she has 2, her right leg must be uncomfortably folded up underneath her.[/QUOTE]
Went to La Isla for the last time; all the prices were crazy and the quality wasn't there.
If you go there expecting Sofia Vergara you might just as well stay in your hotel playing with your own Verga.
I paid 20 mil for a cab from Parque Lleras, 40 mil to get back.
I started with my regular Vodka&Red Bull, 110 mil, and paid 70 mil for a Vodka&OJ.
The girls asked for 600 mil for 40 minutes in the club, one wanted 1 million and another one wanted 1.2 million to go back to my hotel.
So those were the prices, to me it's a stripclub, I saw some guys with their girlfriends there. It is not the place to get laid. La Isla is more expensive than the clubs back in Spain and the quality of the girls is a little bit better in Spain. I would easily be down to pay the prices in Isla if they could back it up with quality.
I managed to get laid anyways, found a pretty young brown girl in Parque Lleras, 23 years, she asked for 400 but quickly came down to a more reasonable level when she noticed that I was about to leave.
I really liked her brown eyes, perfect skin, natural body and light brown skin color.
I asked her if she had any Burundanga, she said that she didn't and wouldn't drug me. Good enough for me, it was free to get her to my room but the next visitor will cost me over 400 mil, I guess I will have to go somewhere else tomorrow.
She was a nice girl, beautiful Colombian girl next door without any children or nasty surprises when the clothes came off.
Good sex, kissing, a little deep throating.
Only bad thing was that she wouldn't suck me without a condom on. But that has been experience with most Colombian girls.
Oh well, tomorrow I will go to Fase 2 and maybe Gusto.
BTW, Parque Lleras truly becomes Whormageddon after midnight and it's impossible to not get offered cocaine every 50 meters even earlier in the day. Most of the Colombian people are incredibly friendly and helpful, I just wish they would do something regarding the coke slangers.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3054352]Went to La Isla for the last time; all the prices were crazy and the quality wasn't there.
If you go there expecting Sofia Vergara you might just as well stay in your hotel playing with your own Verga.
[/QUOTE]Nah I beg to differ, IMHO La Isla is THE place to be if you're looking for a 9 or a 10. Ok, sure if you really insist on a 10, it's hard, I managed to bang a 10 twice in La Isla and both times never saw these girls again, you really need to be lucky, but it IS possible. 9's are not that hard at all IMHO in La Isla, your best bet is to go Thursday or Friday, arrive at 11 PM. I'd be surprised if you can't find a 9, there should be severable on Thursday / Friday. Sure, sometimes it takes a bit of 'effort', girls can be taken, sit with a single client most of the night, so you might need to have some patience, but they are definitely there.
Other days like Saturdays it indeed might be harder to find a 9, but still most of the days there's at least one.
What I love about La Isla is that you can get a good idea of the girls' attitude if you sit a moment with her. I think that's the reason why I pretty much always have had great sex there with hot girls that could easily be (or in fact were) models.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054195]Last time I arrived, I saw these three African-American men on the airplane, well built, in their 30's. They obviously work out at a gym often. They walked onto the plane carrying large carry-on bags without a problem and seemed ready to go down and have some real serious fun in Medellin. But when we landed and got to immigration, all three were in wheelchairs being pushed by staff. The immigration guys actually were looking at them quite annoyed. Guest what, after immigration they were magically healed and were picking up their luggage on their own and walking out to get a cab. Can't get more entitled than that, abusing the system to bypass the lines.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't play games with immigration. They will get hip to that scam and you could end up in the back room getting the 3rd degree and then sent home. That happens. Those guys got lucky.
Good to see you back here.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3054206]The immigration process exceeded three hours, during which I witnessed a number of unusual occurrences that seemed inconsistent with typical operations.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't care about that kind of shit but I know there are people who really need that shorter wait. People who are coming off long flights who have health problems being held up by selfish dumb asses makes me very angry.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3054199]Yeah, that really sucks. I am old enough to use the special line, but I don't. If and when I actually need it, I will. But although I am over 65 there is nothing wrong with me to where I can't stand in line like everybody else.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3054352]Went to La Isla for the last time; all the prices were crazy and the quality wasn't there.. I started with my regular Vodka&Red Bull, 110 mil, and paid 70 mil for a Vodka&OJ. The girls asked for 600 mil for 40 minutes in the club, one wanted 1 million and another one wanted 1.2 million to go back to my hotel. So those were the prices, to me it's a stripclub, I saw some guys with their girlfriends there. It is not the place to get laid.[/QUOTE]With those prices, does not appear to be a place to get drunk either.
OK, loooong time lurker first time poster (at least in Colombia section).
Finally, I managed to come here. Immigration was CRAZY long, like 1. 5-2. 0 hours on my feet I had to wait. I think I might have been on the same flight with the fella that posted the picture of the line. Anyway, I had pre-downloaded InDrive and I also had Uber on my phone, so I was really pissed with the taxi drivers that kept harassing me at the airport every freaking minute.
I don't have Colombian sim and had problems with airport WIFI but was finally able to manage to order InDrive, the driver arrived promptly. It was a she, I swear to God even she had a BBL. So she started talking to me in fast Spanish and I told her 'no entiendo espanol, lo siento' (which is not true, I can do basic conversational Spanish). We took off and she fucking took me El Poblado through the freaking mountains curvy roads! The speed limit was 30 and she was going like 90-100, I was carefully observing the road ahead of us.
Finally made it to the hotel safe and sound, checked in and it was already 1 AM, so I went to bed even though I didn't sleep well. I had been talking on whatsapp to this girl I met on Seeking, let's call her Carola. So my first morning in Medellin I confirmed with her and she said she would be free 10:30 AM to meet me. I think she made it at 11:10 AM to the brunch place I told her to come to but she was good with updating me all the way. So she shows up, she was taller and bigger than I expected, and she had bigger boobs too which was a plus. We chitchat I get her a coffee while I enjoy my brunch of scrambled eggs with avocado and toast. After about 1 hour of talking I suggested we head to the hotel, and we walked like 5 minutes to the hotel, which was convenient. The fugging hotel charges 200 cop per guest! I know my mistake, I realized after booking. So at the hotel, she took off her clothes, she had great boobs, and some ass on her, however, I was disappointed with her mid section. A bit thicker in the midsection than I like, and she was like only 22 years old. She gave me a shallow BBBJ but when I pushed her head against me she was able to pretty much swallow my johnson to the base, which pleasantly surprised me. We started missionary and she wouldn't let me change positions, I asked for doggy and she declined she said 'duele'. I was disappointed. Her coochy was wet and felt amazing, I was about to cum and she suggested I sit on the chair next to the bed and she hopped on top and started riding me, I was very close to nutting, especially I was watching her ride me in the mirror while I was gently slapping her butt. I couldn't hold any longer and busted a big load in her (yup BBFSCIP) and she kept going for a while. We had agreed on 700 cop three hours but the be*tch started getting dressed after the first pop. I was like, whatever, I gave her the donation and send her on her way. 700 cop + 200 cop guest fee = total damage 900 cop (crazy I know, I'm dumb, please don't butcher me). But at least it was a BBFSCIP with a 22 year old college student.
I was hungry so I walked to the nearest restaurant and got myself grilled salmon and a beer. Ahh, life's great! I'm in Medellin, the weather is amazing and I had just nutted in a young pussy, what can be better? As I was eating my second date of the day was on her way to me. Let's call her Sasha, so Sasha showed up and I was a bit disappointed by her looks, she looked way hotter on the pictures she sent me. By the way, Sasha is also from seeking. Her body was good, nice natural ass, surgically enhanced tits and she was wearing a dress that accentuated her shapes. Just her face was kinda meh. But she was in a great spirit and bubbly and I actually enjoyed her energy. I'd say she was a 5/10. She excused herself to the bathroom to clean up her touchy, we'd agreed on greek + video. She gave amazing BBBJ, DT, BLS, and she was recording herself while she was sucking me LOL. I didn't mind, I think she posted it on snapchat or something like that. Once I was hard, I covered junior up, took my phone to record, asked her to bend over and had a great time banging her culo, she took it like a champ, I even came on her face (well chin to be specific because she covered her eyes with her hands). The leche wasn't abundant because I had sessioned with Carola earlier but still a decent amount of my jizz on her chin and some on her breast. Then we relaxed and talked a bit before I was recovering, I was not sure if I could go one more round to be honest. After about 10-15 minutes I felt some life in junior and motioned her to give me a BJ, this time she gave me a good albeit short BBBJ and got me hard and strapped me up with a condom for round number 2. This time I again put her on her cuatro and penetrated her vaginally, kept pushing and I filled the bag in a few minutes. Total damage 750 cop + 200 cop guest fee = 950 cop total, yup a lot but it was worth it for me. I was done for the day.
Day 2:
I went to Angeles Spa around 11:30 AM and there were three girls but they weren't ready so I waited about 30 minutes outside and got back there and asked for presentacion. Then four girls took turns by walking into the room where I was sitting and greeting me, so I could get a preview. I went with a thicker taller girl, I forgot her name Sammy or Sumy. Opted for hhr + BBBJ, the damage was 140 + 80 cop for BBBJ. I asked her if she did anal and she said yes for extra 500 cop (obviously I passed). She gave me an OK but very short BBBJ, then covered me up, I fucked her in doggy and missionary and filled the bag. All in all, I was out in about 8-10 minutes tops. 220 cop is around 60 usd, not bad I thought.
Then I walked outside and went to a small restaurant and got a Sancochos for lunch, the beef was a bit tough to chew but the price was great, only 20 cop. In the evening I set up with another early twenties chick from seeking. She arrived around 8:30 PM, checked her in, paid the fucking 200 cop AGAIN of course. We walked into the room, small chit chat and we got straight down to business. She gave me an amazing BBBJ, with a lot of action to the boys, then she hopped on me reverse cowgirl, yes it was raw (pre-arranged of course), she was grinding me as I was recording. Then I got tired of recording and put the phone down in order to properly enjoy her. She felt amazing, wet and tight and young, you guys know that feeling. I fucked her in multiple positions and as I was close to coming I decided to pull out and came on her tummy (even though CIP would be preferred by me, I just decided not to risk it since I don't know if she's on birth control). OMG, one of the better sexes of my life. Amazing girl, total GFE / PSE, I'd marry her in a heartbeat but I understand she's half my age and she's doing it for money, not because she likes me LOL. After the pop she got dressed, I was a bit disappointed because she agreed to 1 hora why media but was leaving in 45-50 minutes. I didn't want to make a scene and gave her 500 COP we had agreed on. Then we walked outside and she walked me to a restaurant cause I was hungry and then she left. Definitely will be seeing her again before I leave if I can.
Went to parque Lleras and to be honest it's not my thing, I just liked window shopping. The girls seem to ask for 400 cop everything covered 1 hour. So I don't know, it is just not my vibe.
I'll report on day three and perhaps day four next week.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=ShooBree;3054352]Went to La Isla for the last time; all the prices were crazy and the quality wasn't there.
If you go there expecting Sofia Vergara you might just as well stay in your hotel playing with your own Verga.
[/QUOTE]I was there again last night (Friday), so many hot ones again, I think I saw at least 10 chica's that I consider a 9. Honestly if you can't find a high-end model like chica at La Isla on a Friday night, I think you're just not really into Colombianas. But again, other nights are different, La isla on a Saturday is not the same La Isla as on a Friday. On a Saturday it indeed might be harder. Friday is really the best night there.
[QUOTE=GeekAuto;3054476]OK, loooong time lurker first time poster (at least in Colombia section).
Finally, I managed to come here. Immigration was CRAZY long, like 1. 5-2. 0 hours on my feet I had to wait. I think I might have been on the same flight with the fella that posted the picture of the line. Anyway, I had pre-downloaded InDrive and I also had Uber on my phone, so I was really pissed with the taxi drivers that kept harassing me at the airport every freaking minute.
I don't have Colombian sim and had problems with airport WIFI but was finally able to manage to order InDrive, the driver arrived promptly. It was a she, I swear to God even she had a BBL. So she started talking to me in fast Spanish and I told her 'no entiendo espanol, lo siento' (which is not true, I can do basic conversational Spanish). We took off and she fucking took me El Poblado through the freaking mountains curvy roads! The speed limit was 30 and she was going like 90-100, I was carefully observing the road ahead of us.
Finally made it to the hotel safe and sound, checked in and it was already 1 AM, so I went to bed even though I didn't sleep well. I had been talking on whatsapp to this girl I met on Seeking, let's call her Carola. So my first morning in Medellin I confirmed with her and she said she would be free 10:30 AM to meet me. I think she made it at 11:10 AM to the brunch place I told her to come to but she was good with updating me all the way. So she shows up, she was taller and bigger than I expected, and she had bigger boobs too which was a plus. We chitchat I get her a coffee while I enjoy my brunch of scrambled eggs with avocado and toast. After about 1 hour of talking I suggested we head to the hotel, and we walked like 5 minutes to the hotel, which was convenient. The fugging hotel charges 200 cop per guest! I know my mistake, I realized after booking. So at the hotel, she took off her clothes, she had great boobs, and some ass on her, however, I was disappointed with her mid section. A bit thicker in the midsection than I like, and she was like only 22 years old. She gave me a shallow BBBJ but when I pushed her head against me she was able to pretty much swallow my johnson to the base, which pleasantly surprised me. We started missionary and she wouldn't let me change positions, I asked for doggy and she declined she said 'duele'. I was disappointed. Her coochy was wet and felt amazing, I was about to cum and she suggested I sit on the chair next to the bed and she hopped on top and started riding me, I was very close to nutting, especially I was watching her ride me in the mirror while I was gently slapping her butt. I couldn't hold any longer and busted a big load in her (yup BBFSCIP) and she kept going for a while. We had agreed on 700 cop three hours but the be*tch started getting dressed after the first pop. I was like, whatever, I gave her the donation and send her on her way. 700 cop + 200 cop guest fee = total damage 900 cop (crazy I know, I'm dumb, please don't butcher me). But at least it was a BBFSCIP with a 22 year old college student.
I was hungry so I walked to the nearest restaurant and got myself grilled salmon and a beer. Ahh, life's great! I'm in Medellin, the weather is amazing and I had just nutted in a young pussy, what can be better? As I was eating my second date of the day was on her way to me. Let's call her Sasha, so Sasha showed up and I was a bit disappointed by her looks, she looked way hotter on the pictures she sent me. By the way, Sasha is also from seeking. Her body was good, nice natural ass, surgically enhanced tits and she was wearing a dress that accentuated her shapes. Just her face was kinda meh. But she was in a great spirit and bubbly and I actually enjoyed her energy. I'd say she was a 5/10. She excused herself to the bathroom to clean up her touchy, we'd agreed on greek + video. She gave amazing BBBJ, DT, BLS, and she was recording herself while she was sucking me LOL. I didn't mind, I think she posted it on snapchat or something like that. Once I was hard, I covered junior up, took my phone to record, asked her to bend over and had a great time banging her culo, she took it like a champ, I even came on her face (well chin to be specific because she covered her eyes with her hands). The leche wasn't abundant because I had sessioned with Carola earlier but still a decent amount of my jizz on her chin and some on her breast. Then we relaxed and talked a bit before I was recovering, I was not sure if I could go one more round to be honest. After about 10-15 minutes I felt some life in junior and motioned her to give me a BJ, this time she gave me a good albeit short BBBJ and got me hard and strapped me up with a condom for round number 2. This time I again put her on her cuatro and penetrated her vaginally, kept pushing and I filled the bag in a few minutes. Total damage 750 cop + 200 cop guest fee = 950 cop total, yup a lot but it was worth it for me. I was done for the day.
Day 2:
I went to Angeles Spa around 11:30 AM and there were three girls but they weren't ready so I waited about 30 minutes outside and got back there and asked for presentacion. Then four girls took turns by walking into the room where I was sitting and greeting me, so I could get a preview. I went with a thicker taller girl, I forgot her name Sammy or Sumy. Opted for hhr + BBBJ, the damage was 140 + 80 cop for BBBJ. I asked her if she did anal and she said yes for extra 500 cop (obviously I passed). She gave me an OK but very short BBBJ, then covered me up, I fucked her in doggy and missionary and filled the bag. All in all, I was out in about 8-10 minutes tops. 220 cop is around 60 usd, not bad I thought.
Then I walked outside and went to a small restaurant and got a Sancochos for lunch, the beef was a bit tough to chew but the price was great, only 20 cop. In the evening I set up with another early twenties chick from seeking. She arrived around 8:30 PM, checked her in, paid the fucking 200 cop AGAIN of course. We walked into the room, small chit chat and we got straight down to business. She gave me an amazing BBBJ, with a lot of action to the boys, then she hopped on me reverse cowgirl, yes it was raw (pre-arranged of course), she was grinding me as I was recording. Then I got tired of recording and put the phone down in order to properly enjoy her. She felt amazing, wet and tight and young, you guys know that feeling. I fucked her in multiple positions and as I was close to coming I decided to pull out and came on her tummy (even though CIP would be preferred by me, I just decided not to risk it since I don't know if she's on birth control). OMG, one of the better sexes of my life. Amazing girl, total GFE / PSE, I'd marry her in a heartbeat but I understand she's half my age and she's doing it for money, not because she likes me LOL. After the pop she got dressed, I was a bit disappointed because she agreed to 1 hora why media but was leaving in 45-50 minutes. I didn't want to make a scene and gave her 500 COP we had agreed on. Then we walked outside and she walked me to a restaurant cause I was hungry and then she left. Definitely will be seeing her again before I leave if I can.
Went to parque Lleras and to be honest it's not my thing, I just liked window shopping. The girls seem to ask for 400 cop everything covered 1 hour. So I don't know, it is just not my vibe.
I'll report on day three and perhaps day four next week.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Now I see why these chics be asking for these amounts. 750 k for one nut. I pay chics 200 k for 2 nuts and I meet them all on Facebook and all of them are gorgeous. I may pay them an extra 50 or 100 k to go raw. Even if she stayed overnight she would not get 750 k. That's straight crazy. You could have stayed in your country for that.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3053910]What do you want to do, travelling to Medellin, get your dick wet? Or wet your appetite? I can stay home for a restaurant![/QUOTE]I guess then you can't get pussy at home? Damn shame. Probably so ugly that you can't even pay for sex at home. The country has a lot to offer besides sex. You pay airfare, lodging and food and sex, you could just stay home and use that money to pay for sex in your country but we know why you don't. Fugly LOL.
Might be a little long. I've been mongering for years. Mainly Dr and Colombia. I'm not going to get into how you should spend your money because it's your money and your time. But. You don't have to spend more than 300 k on these chics. When you spend these high amounts, they actually think you're foolish since they fucked the guy before you for half of what you're paying and you both got the same service. More money doesn't equate to better sex. Just like the better the chic looks doesn't mean the better the sex is going to be. Just keep that in mind. Those of you that are married or have a female that live with you, obviously have to move differently. The casas, strip clubs or lleras is best for you. The casas being the cheapest. Stay off sites like tinder if you are networking online. Facebook is your best source. Trust me on that. You get to see if these chics are real and you get to see their life versus the fake profiles on tinder. Once you link up with chics on Facebook, you can then request their family and friends and fuck all of them. It's that simple. I pay 200 k and I fuck twice. I pay a little more if I go raw and do anal. Those chics tend to be non pros. I've met quite a few that have never been with a gringo. There are 100 chics turning 18 everyday that are getting in the game. I prefer to deal with chics just getting in the game. There is a lot to do in Colombia besides fuck chics. The dudes that can't get pussy at home even if they paid for it, will never appreciate the other things that Colombia has to offer. If you are spending 500 for airfare, another 500 for lodging, money for food, drinks and pussy, you could have just saved that and stayed home and bought pussy there. It would be cheaper actually. Massages, the food, the sights are amazing. Don't think you can't enjoy those things. That's what makes Colombia great so don't listen to the clowns that can't even buy pussy in their country so they have to travel to a poorer country where the women need the money and it makes them feel like they accomplished something by paying for pussy. Impressive would be them traveling to Colombia and the women are paying them 500 k or more instead. That will never happen. Safety. Never do 2 chics at one time. More than likely they are trying to dig and rob you especially if they imitated the 3 some. Never use biometrics for your phone like fingerprint or eye scan. Always use a passcode. When you are drugged they will just use your fingerprint to access your phone and your accounts. Always stay in a place where they check ids. Never accept a contraseña nervous those can be fake. Always accept a seeédula as proof of ID. If you go out, you should pick the restaurant. At your place, don't let them near your drink. I would suggest you don't even drink of you know you are a sloppy drinker. You will get careless and you will get drugged. I've fucked well over 100 chics there and 95% of them from Facebook. I've never had a problem with a chic trying to drug me or rob me. I don't drugs and I barely drink and if I did, I wouldn't do it with them. Another thing. Stay away from other gringos. Most of them have their own agenda which might not coincide with yours. Not that they're bad, some are but you might be moving differently so it causes conflicts and who needs that on vacation? If you don't want to learn Spanish at least learn some basic shit besides Hola. They respect you more if you try especially in establishments. Unfortunately, some of you don't have basic survival skills so will get scoped and robbed but if you stay focused you will be OK. Enjoy the country and be safe.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3054506]I was there again last night (Friday), so many hot ones again, I think I saw at least 10 chica's that I consider a 9. Honestly if you can't find a high-end model like chica at La Isla on a Friday night, I think you're just not really into Colombianas. But again, other nights are different, La isla on a Saturday is not the same La Isla as on a Friday. On a Saturday it indeed might be harder. Friday is really the best night there.[/QUOTE]It's not that. We all have different tastes. My 10 quotient be a morena with wavy hair, slim and petite. I don't care for big asses or big tits. I like them about 100 lbs and more more than 130 lbs. So of I go in la isla and I don't see those type of girls then I will say the place is corny. You who might like the opposite will be fine. Different taste. I'm only paying money on what I find attractive not what other people think is attractive. Most chics in la isla tend to be thicker than I like so it's a wasted trip for me and I'm definitely not going to pay what they charge in there to fuck. That shit is crazy. I'll get the same nut for 200 k. A nut is a nut.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054559]Might be a little long. I've been mongering for years. Mainly Dr and Colombia. I'm not going to get into how you should spend your money because it's your money and your time. But. You don't have to spend more than 300 k on these chics. When you spend these high amounts, they actually think you're foolish since they fucked the guy before you for half of what you're paying and you both got the same service. More money doesn't equate to better sex. Just like the better the chic looks doesn't mean the better the sex is going to be. Just keep that in mind. Those of you that are married or have a female that live with you, obviously have to move differently. The casas, strip clubs or lleras is best for you. The casas being the cheapest. Stay off sites like tinder if you are networking online. Facebook is your best source. Trust me on that. You get to see if these chics are real and you get to see their life versus the fake profiles on tinder. Once you link up with chics on Facebook, you can then request their family and friends and fuck all of them. It's that simple. I pay 200 k and I fuck twice. I pay a little more if I go raw and do anal. Those chics tend to be non pros. I've met quite a few that have never been with a gringo. There are 100 chics turning 18 everyday that are getting in the game. I prefer to deal with chics just getting in the game. There is a lot to do in Colombia besides fuck chics. The dudes that can't get pussy at home even if they paid for it, will never appreciate the other things that Colombia has to offer..[/QUOTE]I appreciate your post but you have break it down with actual paragraphs. It depends on how often you go there. I don't like one offs. I pay between 200 k and 500 k. If you pay a girl 300 k and the next guy gives her 500 k she might be done with you. It depends on the girl and I really like her. I pre fed to choose chicas who have real jobs.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054559]Never accept a contraseña nervous those can be fake. Always accept a seeédula as proof of ID.[/QUOTE]If you interperse your narrative with Spanish words, it will help others to understand if the words are used correctly and spelled correctly. Contraseña translated is password. I have no ides what a nervous password is. I suppose you mean cedula when you write seeédula. Cedula is a Colombian ID card.
My favorite part of your advice is stay away from other gringos. It's valid on several levels.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054559]Might be a little long. I've been mongering for years. Mainly Dr and Colombia. I'm not going to get into how you should spend your money because it's your money and your time. But. You don't have to spend more than 300 k on these chics. When you spend these high amounts, they actually think you're foolish since they fucked the guy before you for half of what you're paying and you both got the same service. More money doesn't equate to better sex. Just like the better the chic looks doesn't mean the better the sex is going to be. Just keep that in mind. Those of you that are married or have a female that live with you, obviously have to move differently..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054554]Now I see why these chics be asking for these amounts. 750 k for one nut. I pay chics 200 k for 2 nuts and I meet them all on Facebook and all of them are gorgeous. I may pay them an extra 50 or 100 k to go raw. Even if she stayed overnight she would not get 750 k. That's straight crazy. You could have stayed in your country for that.[/QUOTE]It was his first time in MDE. Give him another visit or two and he'll likely get comfortable and pay a lot less. That's the typical progression.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3054577]If you interperse your narrative with Spanish words, it will help others to understand if the words are used correctly and spelled correctly. Contrasea translated is password. I have no ides what a nervous password is. I suppose you mean cedula when you write seedula. Cedula is a Colombian ID card.[/QUOTE]The latter, seedula, is an autocorrect 'feature' and spelling Spanish words 'correctly' on the site is not possible if diacritics (accent marks, etc.) are used. Your spelling isn't correct either since see e the you l a contains such a diacritic. It's a conundrum. That word is also not specific to Colombia and is used all over LatAm.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054554]Now I see why these chics be asking for these amounts. 750 k for one nut. I pay chics 200 k for 2 nuts and I meet them all on Facebook and all of them are gorgeous. I may pay them an extra 50 or 100 k to go raw. Even if she stayed overnight she would not get 750 k. That's straight crazy. You could have stayed in your country for that.[/QUOTE]I agree that 750 k is a lot of money especially if you only get 1 pop, or if it is CBJ / covered sex. And especially if a girl looks mediocre. However I can pretty much guarantee that you are not fucking models for 200 k, maybe girls next door types, at best. Most of the chicks that go for 200 k I wouldn't even do for free. Of course, I would be happy to pay as little as possible, who wouldn't? But generally speaking you get what you pay for. Really hot ones, true stunners, know they can charge much more and get higher offers in their DMs every day. 750 k wouldn't be a bad deal for an overnight date with a hottie and all inclusive.
[QUOTE=MisterJam;3054561]It's not that. We all have different tastes. My 10 quotient be a morena with wavy hair, slim and petite. I don't care for big asses or big tits. I like them about 100 lbs and more more than 130 lbs. So of I go in la isla and I don't see those type of girls then I will say the place is corny. You who might like the opposite will be fine. Different taste. I'm only paying money on what I find attractive not what other people think is attractive. Most chics in la isla tend to be thicker than I like so it's a wasted trip for me and I'm definitely not going to pay what they charge in there to fuck. That shit is crazy. I'll get the same nut for 200 k. A nut is a nut.[/QUOTE]Sure. But we were talking about models, so the type of girl you might see on the cover of a magazine. If you want to fuck girls like that in Medellin, la isla still is your best bet.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3054578]My favorite part of your advice is stay away from other gringos. It's valid on several levels.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For some reason other gringos love hanging out with me and want to spend more time with me than chicas it is so gay haha. Just ruins my trip.
New members: please remember that travelling to Medellin is about your personal enjoyment. It's easy to get caught up in the 'more is better' mentality, but true satisfaction is rarely found in matching someone else's lifestyle. We advocate for defining your own version of success. Trying to meet the expectations of others is a quick path to burnout—stay true to what makes you happy."
Maybe this question is more for those that have made Colombia their home.
Is it possible to find a working girl that you could eventually settle down with?
I know that's very unlikely, but curious if anyone was able to make that work, or knows someone that pulled that off?
Alternatively, what's the possibility that the working girls help to introduce you to regular girls (like being your wing women?) so you can find deeper connection?
I'm thinking long term beyond the fantasy life and curious on any thoughts people may have about this topic.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3054590]Sure. But we were talking about models, so the type of girl you might see on the cover of a magazine. If you want to fuck girls like that in Medellin, la isla still is your best bet.[/QUOTE]If you ask me, the term model is overused. If they've never been in a magazine, they're not a model. Instagram doesn't count.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054569]I appreciate your post but you have break it down with actual paragraphs. It depends on how often you go there. I don't like one offs. I pay between 200 k and 500 k. If you pay a girl 300 k and the next guy gives her 500 k she might be done with you. It depends on the girl and I really like her. I pre fed to choose chicas who have real jobs.[/QUOTE]What happens when the 500 k guy is done with her? Suddenly your phone starts ringing. Question is, will you be in town when it rings?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3054578]My favorite part of your advice is stay away from other gringos. It's valid on several levels.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say stay away completely. Just be aware of the intentions of whomever you're hanging out with. Whether they're gringos or Colombians.
Most people enjoy human contact. And no matter how many Viagras you pop, you can't fuck all your waking hours. Having people to hang with, whether Colombian or visitor, male or female, can be a nice thing.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054688]What happens when the 500 k guy is done with her? Suddenly your phone starts ringing. Question is, will you be in town when it rings?[/QUOTE]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.
It is easy to let your guard down in a city as seamless as Medellin. To maintain your edge, approach your environment with deliberate focus and remain selective about your associations. Ensure that your inner circle is composed of individuals whose incentives align with your own, thereby eliminating unnecessary vulnerabilities. Vigilance is a prerequisite for sustained success here. Stay safe & Have Fun. PN.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054714]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.[/QUOTE]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054793]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.[/QUOTE]I would say don't worry about what others are spending. Just make more money. I would also say let the girls make more money from any other sources. There are guys who want to make the girls suffer financially in a number of countries so that the price of pussy can go down. It is a bit selfish that you would want others to suffer so you can save a few dollars.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054714]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that creating a stream of income on Only Fans or Instagram or by webcamming is doing nothing. It takes a lot of effort to create entertainment that others are willing to pay for. There is intense competition because there are no barriers to entry so to make money, you really need to work hard at it. For guys who are not in Colombia, they are not getting nothing. They are getting interactions with the girls and entertainment.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054569]I appreciate your post but you have break it down with actual paragraphs. It depends on how often you go there. I don't like one offs. I pay between 200 k and 500 k. If you pay a girl 300 k and the next guy gives her 500 k she might be done with you. It depends on the girl and I really like her. I pre fed to choose chicas who have real jobs.[/QUOTE]This is completely not true. The girls know that the going rate is 300 K. But that doesn't change the fact that if there's no better deal floating around, they'll compromise maybve take 200 K. And if they can get 500 K or more out of him, then fantastic. But it doesn't mean that it changes the fact that they know the average cost is 300 K. In the same evening, I've seen the same top-looks girl take 700 k off one guy and then agree to 200 k off the second guy as the night was gertting late. Same girl I then saw a couple days later for 300 K without even asking or negotiating, I just asked her out and gave her 300 K and she didn't bat an eye. Doesn't mean that some girls are pickier and stand their ground for 400 K, but I've never had a girl stand their ground for anything above that.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3054578]My favorite part of your advice is stay away from other gringos. It's valid on several levels.[/QUOTE]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054793]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.[/QUOTE]Ha, I didn't even think about that but I think this is actually an important point. AI is already getting crazy good, biggest problem is currently that most clips are short, but tech to make them longer already exists and it's only a matter of time before that really is going to have a big impact on the porn sector. And then logically it will become tempting for these girls to go back to hooking again. Interesting!
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054801]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.[/QUOTE]I guess the point is that gringos don't represent the culture of the country you're in. If you really wanted to hang out with gringos, there's plenty of time to do that when you go back home. I'll hang out with a gringo every once in a while, and its a nice change once in a while, but I spend 90% of the year travelling. If you really want to get to know the country that you might live in, the advice is still good. Avoid the gringos, go find some local friends. Or you're never going to learn the spanish that will open up so many more opportunities for you.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054800]This is completely not true. The girls know that the going rate is 300 K. But that doesn't change the fact that if there's no better deal floating around, they'll compromise maybve take 200 K. And if they can get 500 K or more out of him, then fantastic. But it doesn't mean that it changes the fact that they know the average cost is 300 K. In the same evening, I've seen the same top-looks girl take 700 k off one guy and then agree to 200 k off the second guy as the night was gertting late. Same girl I then saw a couple days later for 300 K without even asking or negotiating, I just asked her out and gave her 300 K and she didn't bat an eye. Doesn't mean that some girls are pickier and stand their ground for 400 K, but I've never had a girl stand their ground for anything above that.[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment. What a girl will eventually accept depends on the particular circumstances and how busy she is. If there is plenty of business at the higher rate, she won't take less. If business is slow, she will likely take it but she may not take it next time when business picks up. Of course, when we talk about girls, not all girls are the same, and they know where their worth based on age and attractiveness.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3054797]I would say don't worry about what others are spending. Just make more money. I would also say let the girls make more money from any other sources. There are guys who want to make the girls suffer financially in a number of countries so that the price of pussy can go down. It is a bit selfish that you would want others to suffer so you can save a few dollars.[/QUOTE]I do make more money and pay more than I ever have for sex. I admit I am selfish, I think those that don't admit it are deluding themselves. Its just human nature.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3054577]If you interperse your narrative with Spanish words, it will help others to understand if the words are used correctly and spelled correctly. Contrasea translated is password. I have no ides what a nervous password is. I suppose you mean cedula when you write seedula. Cedula is a Colombian ID card.[/QUOTE]Clarification for those who don't know:
In Colombia, a contrasena is a temporary document that serves as proof of identification while a citizen is waiting for their official national identity card (Cedula de Ciudadana) to be processed or renewed.
So if chica never had cedula (just turned 18) or lost her cedula she receives contrasena first and cedula later. Old style yellow cedulas were issued before end of 2020 with DOB on the back and the new ones have it on front side. So if chica less than 25 years old and has old style cedula it's fake for sure.
Contrasena is easier to fake, so OP was right advising to avoid them. But even if chica has fisical cedula you aren't guaranteed that it's real -there are a lot of fake cedulas in Medellin. It's cheaper and faster to get fake cedula than the real one. Over the years my front desk stopped more than 10 chicas with fake cedulas (verifying against police database).
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;3054882]Clarification for those who don't know:
In Colombia, a contrasena is a temporary document that serves as proof of identification while a citizen is waiting for their official national identity card (Cedula de Ciudadana) to be processed or renewed.
So if chica never had cedula (just turned 18) or lost her cedula she receives contrasena first and cedula later. Old style yellow cedulas were issued before end of 2020 with DOB on the back and the new ones have it on front side. So if chica less than 25 years old and has old style cedula it's fake for sure.
Contrasena is easier to fake, so OP was right advising to avoid them. But even if chica has fisical cedula you aren't guaranteed that it's real -there are a lot of fake cedulas in Medellin. It's cheaper and faster to get fake cedula than the real one. Over the years my front desk stopped more than 10 chicas with fake cedulas (verifying against police database).[/QUOTE]Fake or real, no hotel or any other business will accept a cedula contraseña so if that is all a chica has for an ID it should be a dead deal right then and there. When I was approved for my cedula it was during the time when they were having problems producing the cedulas and they passed a law stating that the contraseña was a legal document and had to be accepted by businesses and they gave you a document along with the contraseña stating this and they told me to show it to any business that refused to accept the contraseña,it was useless, toilet paper. I showed it to the folks at Claro, Bancolombia, etc. And they just refused it. I couldn't get a Nequi account opened either because they require a photo of both front and back of your cedula and the contraseña only shows the front. Major hassles for me, it took these clowns eleven months to get me my cedula.
It is not a binary choice. I enjoy an active social life and I see as few or as many women as a like at any given time. I don't socialize with gringos on any regular basis but I understand how it can be important to hang around other gringos. It's just nor for me. I have a small circle of gringo friends. You might see it differently if you were a resident rather than a visitor.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054801]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.[/QUOTE]
More often than not, random interactions I have with gringos here leave me feeling uneasy. An extreme example of what I try to stay away from are the foreigners who hang around together at Plaza Botero. I mean wtf, seriously? LOL!
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3054664]Agreed. For some reason other gringos love hanging out with me and want to spend more time with me than chicas it is so gay haha. Just ruins my trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3054960]Fake or real, no hotel or any other business will accept a cedula contrasea so if that is all a chica has for an ID it should be a dead deal right then and there.[/QUOTE]You're probably right about banks, but most hotels (not 5 star) and doormen at edificios/Airbnb will accept contrasena or even a photo of the cedula on chica's phone. Confirmed by my experience and the experience of my friends. It's your responsibility to make sure she is over 18 to avoid huge problems.
Has anyone been to any of the adult cinemas in Medellin? I want to check them out on the next trip out of curiosity but if it's just dudes whacking to porn there clearly is no need LOL.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3054960]Fake or real, no hotel or any other business will accept a cedula contrasea so if that is all a chica has for an ID it should be a dead deal right then and there. When I was approved for my cedula it was during the time when they were having problems producing the cedulas and they passed a law stating that the contrasea was a legal document and had to be accepted by businesses and they gave you a document along with the contrasea stating this and they told me to show it to any business that refused to accept the contrasea,it was useless, toilet paper. I showed it to the folks at Claro, Bancolombia, etc. And they just refused it. I couldn't get a Nequi account opened either because they require a photo of both front and back of your cedula and the contrasea only shows the front. Major hassles for me, it took these clowns eleven months to get me my cedula.[/QUOTE]That is actually not true based on my experience. Your statement is NO hotel will accept a cedula contrasea. Last time I stayed at an established hotel, they accepted a girl's contrasea twice during my stay. So the fact that they did means that your statement is false. Maybe it could be true that some hotels or most hotels will not accept it but I don't know.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3055001]Has anyone been to any of the adult cinemas in Medellin? I want to check them out on the next trip out of curiosity but if it's just dudes whacking to porn there clearly is no need LOL.[/QUOTE]That's insane!
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;3054981]You're probably right about banks, but most hotels (not 5 star) and doormen at edificios/Airbnb will accept contrasena or even a photo of the cedula on chica's phone. Confirmed by my experience and the experience of my friends. It's your responsibility to make sure she is over 18 to avoid huge problems.[/QUOTE]None of the higher end hotels that I stay at would accept my contraseña,I had to use my passport. Doormen at Airbnb's,those clowns would accept a gum wrapper if you slip them a 50,LOL.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3055007]That is actually not true based on my experience. Your statement is NO hotel will accept a cedula contrasea. Last time I stayed at an established hotel, they accepted a girl's contrasea twice during my stay. So the fact that they did means that your statement is false. Maybe it could be true that some hotels or most hotels will not accept it but I don't know.[/QUOTE]Okay maybe I should have stated "most" won't but just because the one hotel you stayed at accepted it doesn't mean much. I stay at higher end hotels and seeing as I actually had a contraseña I can tell you that NONE of them would accept it. I had to use my passport.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;3055101]Okay maybe I should have stated "most" won't but just because the one hotel you stayed at accepted it doesn't mean much. I stay at higher end hotels and seeing as I actually had a contrasea I can tell you that NONE of them would accept it. I had to use my passport.[/QUOTE]You're comparing apples to oranges. It's one thing to register at a hotel with contrasena being a gringo, another to be a visitor with contrasena being colomniana. It was written on your contrasena "de Extranjeria", wasn't it? Just stop by or call hotels that you mentioned and ask if they allow colombian visitors with contrasena and tell us the result. I rest my case. Peace.
I've never been to Medellin and concerned about safety.
Do I need a tour for Medellin? Or solo travel is OK?
Has anyone booked a tour with naughty Medellin? How was the experience?
[URL]https://naughtymedellin.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;3055106]You're comparing apples to oranges. It's one thing to register at a hotel with contrasena being a gringo, another to be a visitor with contrasena being colomniana. It was written on your contrasena "de Extranjeria", wasn't it? Just stop by or call hotels that you mentioned and ask if they allow colombian visitors with contrasena and tell us the result. I rest my case. Peace.[/QUOTE]I stay had 4 star hotels when in Medellin. All demand the girls have cedulas.
No cedula no entry.
There is just no reason to take the risk of dealing with a gal who does not have a cedula. I spent a weekend in jail in Medellin, although not for anything related to chicas, and I promise you, you don't want to be in that situation. Zero upside. Plenty of gals have cedulas, so avoid the ones who don't.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3055292]There is just no reason to take the risk of dealing with a gal who does not have a cedula. I spent a weekend in jail in Medellin, although not for anything related to chicas, and I promise you, you don't want to be in that situation. Zero upside. Plenty of gals have cedulas, so avoid the ones who don't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;3054882]
Contrasena is easier to fake, so OP was right advising to avoid them. But even if chica has fisical cedula you aren't guaranteed that it's real -there are a lot of fake cedulas in Medellin. It's cheaper and faster to get fake cedula than the real one. Over the years my front desk stopped more than 10 chicas with fake cedulas (verifying against police database).[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I wrote, just keep in mind that not ALL of cedulas are real.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3055148]I've never been to Medellin and concerned about safety.
Do I need a tour for Medellin? Or solo travel is OK?
Has anyone booked a tour with naughty Medellin? How was the experience?
[URL]https://naughtymedellin.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]It's safe enough if you take the usual precautions and read up on this forum. Probably most important: stay away from El Centro at night and don't 'show papaya', which means don't show anything that might be interesting to steal, like don't wear an (expensive) watch. And read up on how not to get drugged, plenty of useful tips here.
This is one of those conversations that never end on this web site.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3055292]There is just no reason to take the risk of dealing with a gal who does not have a cedula. I spent a weekend in jail in Medellin, although not for anything related to chicas, and I promise you, you don't want to be in that situation. Zero upside. Plenty of gals have cedulas, so avoid the ones who don't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3055390]This is one of those conversations that never end on this web site.[/QUOTE]He is 100% correct. The locals know the game and everyone including the Vennies have ID. If someone doesn't have one I guarantee they are trouble.
My hotel was IDing all the chicas I brought, and their photos were taken. I felt pretty safe because of that though none of the girls I brought gave me a reason to doubt.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3055001]Has anyone been to any of the adult cinemas in Medellin? I want to check them out on the next trip out of curiosity but if it's just dudes whacking to porn there clearly is no need LOL.[/QUOTE]Why? I went to an adult theater once, very long time ago where I live in the US, surprisingly with a girl I used to date, upon her insistence. I guess she was curious and realized she can only do it with me once in her lifetime. The place was dirty, depressing and full of homosexuals. Never went back there or anywhere in the world. Then, soon after that the internet took off and pornography followed it. I am surprised, forget adult theaters, that even movie theaters still exist.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3055443]I am surprised, forget adult theaters, that even movie theaters still exist.[/QUOTE]At the one I go to here in Thailand, in the last 17 years I have never seen more than 10 people in the room. So I always buy the cheapest seats, then help myself to a sofa.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3055443]Why? I went to an adult theater once, very long time ago where I live in the US, surprisingly with a girl I used to date, upon her insistence. I guess she was curious and realized she can only do it with me once in her lifetime. The place was dirty, depressing and full of homosexuals.....[/QUOTE]In its dying days in the '90's adult theaters on 42nd street were taken over by gays. I dared not enter.
[QUOTE=Medclubber;3055382]It's safe enough if you take the usual precautions and read up on this forum. Probably most important: stay away from El Centro at night and don't 'show papaya', which means don't show anything that might be interesting to steal, like don't wear an (expensive) watch. And read up on how not to get drugged, plenty of useful tips here.[/QUOTE]I'll search here for more info.
Ok before I start I need to say a special thanks to DiscoverFl. Your recommendations for transportation, restaurants, money exchange, and girls you recommend have been a game changer. Me and my wife will be back to Medellin and I owe you a night out. THANK YOU. We are currently half way through a 9 night trip. For starters I would say we have been treated by customs, locals, and ladies with nothing but respect. I was worried that as a US citizen we may have issues. So far not the case at all. I am american and my wife is from Venezuela so the spanish she speaks here has been a huge help. But again maybe we are lucky but we have been shocked by how nice everyone has treated us. We have felt safe everywhere we have been and of course have been very careful with obvious issues. We don't take valuables or wear things to be a target. I also am a pretty big guy and power lift etc but don't think that's why. But maybe it helps. Ok on to the report.
Hotel. We are staying at the York Luxury Suites. Beautiful views, roof top pool and bar. Great service. Chica fee bad at 50 bucks. We would likely return but next time we will stay closer to the action at Provenza and Parque Lleras. The hotel by the way is.
15 minute uber ride to get there.
Loutron. 1. 3 mil for a couple, 470'cash for a single guy. Wow. We paid as we already were there. Place was unreal and a mansion. The girl we chose was a 9. She tried to upsell oral without a condom which I don't do anyways. Besides that it was an incredible experience.
Profenza and Parue Lleras. Been twice to each and pulled a chica each time. Price was 400 k each time. Prices they asked were insane and up to 1000000. Of course as night wore on they took 400 k. Both were solid 7's. Both great experiences. We way preferred provenza over parque lleras.
DiscoverFl recommendations. We so far have seen one. Great experience and may actually meet her again. Terrific with my wife I may add.
We still have 4 more nights and are headed to Guatape. Will send a final report when we leave as we will try Jade Palace spa and maybe one more MP.
During my recent trip, I had an unexpected encounter with a contact from years ago. In the past, our arrangements typically ranged between 50,000 and 150,000 COP. However, she was quick to inform me that her professional standing had evolved; her current rates now start at 350,000 and can reach 600,000 COP.
Curiosity and a bit of nostalgia led me to agree to the new terms. We settled on a total of 400,000 COP for the evening. Despite the significant price increase, her energy was unmatched—so much so that within just over an hour, I realized I had met my limit. Recognizing that I needed to conserve my energy for the rest of my trip, I decided to conclude the session early. I provided her with a 50,000 COP tip for her time and bid her a polite farewell, jokingly admitting that her intensity was more than I could handle for one visit. She knocked my socks off & even more. Have fun my brothers!
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3055605]
We still have 4 more nights and are headed to Guatape. Will send a final report when we leave as we will try Jade Palace spa and maybe one more MP.[/QUOTE]I would recommend Lujuria on Wednesday night, if you can. Enjoy. La Isla could also be fun, but it's expensive and can sometimes be full of passport bros.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3055694]I would recommend Lujuria on Wednesday night, if you can. Enjoy. La Isla could also be fun, but it's expensive and can sometimes be full of passport bros.[/QUOTE]We looked into Lujeria prior to coming here. Wife decided not to go this trip as she didn't want to pack a dress and heels. We will be going on our return trip for sure. La Isla is on our short list and we may go this trip. Sunday election day here and no alcohol! We did stock up on booze though but missing the bars. Guatape tomorrow morning and then headed out Monday night for some fun. Loving Medellin.
Less men are going to Cartagena these days because of high prices and bad service (high volume putas). But now those same girls who were frustrated with the lack of men in Cartagena have come to Medellin and are trying to increase the prices in parque lleras and other places in Medellin. This is a basic market economics problem because men only have so much money and if another city emerges as a cheaper destination men will flock there. Also it is becoming harder to justify going to Colombia if it's cheaper just to stay in your city and mess with the workers there. When you add up expensive airbnbs, flight costs etc. , any man who's financially literate will see that it's cheaper in the US. In other words, the women who used to work in Cartagena are crashing the Medellin economy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3055454]At the one I go to here in Thailand, in the last 17 years I have never seen more than 10 people in the room. So I always buy the cheapest seats, then help myself to a sofa.[/QUOTE]Movie rental places like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video died quickly, not sure if they survived past year 2000. They were a major social activity centers. Drive In Cinemas died even before that. Movie theaters, with their ticket prices sky high, and bad expensive food, are still around. I have not been to one in 20 years. Funny that it is teenagers who frequent these places in the US. You would think it is old fashioned but not so.
[QUOTE=Hobo3;3055731]But now those same girls who were frustrated with the lack of men in Cartagena have come to Medellin and are trying to increase the prices in parque lleras and other places in Medellin. This is a basic market economics problem because men only have so much money and if another city emerges as a cheaper destination men will flock there.[/QUOTE]No they won't. There are already plenty of cheaper places, but no flocking.
Random comment as I just got back from sosua. I noticed a lot of guys walk around sosua like their shit don't stink and they act like tough guys and all big and fearless (ctg too).
When I see guys walk around medellin they walk all nimble and soft and more of a nervous walk hahaha.
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3055715]We looked into Lujeria prior to coming here. Wife decided not to go this trip as she didn't want to pack a dress and heels. We will be going on our return trip for sure.[/QUOTE]Just FYI, many women there are in towel-only and barefoot, others towel & flip flops, panties & towel, bra & panties, etc. She'll be fine any way she plays it. Oh, they also have flip flops you can use.
Touched down in Laureles today. Went to new life and wanted a presentation, Sami was the first girl to come out. Tall, long black hair, tiny waist, huge hips and fat ass. Told mamasan that was all I needed to see.
I'm going to try not to blow all my money on this woman but it's going to be hard.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3055811]No they won't. There are already plenty of cheaper places, but no flocking.[/QUOTE]Can I ask you about this post?
No they won't. There are already plenty of cheaper places, but no flocking.
I think Lima sucks Bogota sucks Tijuana sucks, Angeles City sucks and Pattaya is on life support.
So where are the cheaper places? Are they worth visiting? Why doesn't anyone want to flock there?
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3055866]Random comment as I just got back from sosua. I noticed a lot of guys walk around sosua like their shit don't stink and they act like tough guys and all big and fearless (ctg too).
When I see guys walk around medellin they walk all nimble and soft and more of a nervous walk hahaha.[/QUOTE]You go to other countries to Guy Watch? I didn't know dudes traveled to check out how guys walk around in other countries and evaluate them LOL.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3056034]You go to other countries to Guy Watch? I didn't know dudes traveled to check out how guys walk around in other countries and evaluate them LOL.[/QUOTE]I look at everything when I travel I am an observant guy. Chill out you just trying to attack me from the sosua thread. Gay haha.
Day 6 goes down as a complete rarity for us in the picking up of chicas game. I always work out 5 days a week when we visit other countries just as if I was at home. This was my third day at this gym. One of the working girls happened to be from the same town as my wife in Venezuela. As my wife rarely works out she spent most of her time chatting with girl. When we were getting ready to leave she asked my wife what we were doing that night. Wife told her going to Parque Lleras and Provenza which we do pretty much nightly. She said are you going for food and drinks or company? Wife laughed and said both. She made a joke about going with and my wife invited her. They exchanged whatsup numbers and she messaged two hours later she was ready to meet. Long story short wife offered her 400 k for two hours at our room and she happily accepted. Great time and she was a solid 8. Great performance, attitude etc. Asked we wouldn't mention anything at her job ever. Of course not. This is our first time ever meeting someone in this fashion and we have been to Thailand, DR, Costa Rica, Aruba, Curacao when Campo was open and Aruba. So our question is was this nornal here or a huge one off? Either way we are having an amazing time. DiscoverFL we are seeing the same recommendation again tonight as she is my wifes favorite. Will post last report when we leave.
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3056039]Day 6 goes down as a complete rarity for us in the picking up of chicas game. ...This is our first time ever meeting someone in this fashion and we have been to Thailand, DR, Costa Rica, Aruba, Curacao when Campo was open and Aruba. So our question is was this nornal here or a huge one off?[/QUOTE]That is fairly normal in Medellin. I have picked up store clerks, bartenders, waitresses, and ride-share drivers. Many women there consider companionship a job. I've also been rejected by ladies in those occupations.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3056044]That is fairly normal in Medellin. I have picked up store clerks, bartenders, waitresses, and ride-share drivers. Many women there consider companionship a job. I've also been rejected by ladies in those occupations.[/QUOTE]Yes it is normal as this guy said. 80% of women in medellin are for sale.
[QUOTE=Masseys1;3056039]This is our first time ever meeting someone in this fashion and we have been to Thailand, DR, Costa Rica, Aruba, Curacao when Campo was open and Aruba. So our question is was this nornal here or a huge one off? Either way we are having an amazing time. DiscoverFL we are seeing the same recommendation again tonight as she is my wifes favorite. Will post last report when we leave.[/QUOTE]Masseys1 - you have unlocked one of the best cheat codes to life. I have just as much with my wife on trips as I do with the bros. I can't *yet* confirm its normal for MED, but I've been to Thailand, DR, and Costa Rica with my wife and we have had great success. In my experiences, the hook has been a little different each place. Thailand. Easy (if you are in BKK or PTY), DR. Tinder, CR. Took her to Cocal last year, a girl I had been with on previous trips put quite the effort in warming up to my her, and we spent the next 1. 5 day with her (I had no intentions on pursuing, but she made it obvious that she was down). I'm certain we would have had a few more, but I fucked up our vibe with some dumb shit the 1st day which set things back while we reconciled. We are headed back again next month. We went to CTG, for New Years in 24/25 but I think the action was way down because of the holidays. I'm looking forward to giving Columbia another shot in the next year or so.
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3055930]Can I ask you about this post?
No they won't. There are already plenty of cheaper places, but no flocking.
I think Lima sucks Bogota sucks Tijuana sucks, Angeles City sucks and Pattaya is on life support.
So where are the cheaper places? Are they worth visiting? Why doesn't anyone want to flock there?[/QUOTE]Tijuana doesn't suck if you are dialed in with some chicas but it is not cheap compared to other countries. I live in San Diego and drive down there almost every week. And I am not talking about HK.
I booked an Airbnb in El Poblado and when I checked in I notice a bunch of police in the hallway. The host called me tonight and said someone was caught with an underage girl in his unit, the police shut down the entire building forcing him to cancel the reservation. To make a long story short Airbnb completely fucked me over as it took 2 hours for them to help and within that time all the suitable places were snatched up, I had to get somewhere further than I wanted for over 200 dollars more!
Anyway I'm curious if the police are setting up stings for gringos. I'm not saying I feel sorry for him, but I'm curious as to how the police knew we're to find him, unless someone tipped them off.
I also remember someone here mentioning the times it seemed like the only girls out seemed young with a cop in the background.
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3056046]Yes it is normal as this guy said. 80% of women in medellin are for sale.[/QUOTE]To paisas, passing up a good side hustle is almost sacrilegious. They aren't actively marketing themselves as pros, they aren't actively seeking the business, but if it falls into their lap, the vast majority of unmarried women in Medellin will take the offer.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;3056074]To paisas, passing up a good side hustle is almost sacrilegious. They aren't actively marketing themselves as pros, they aren't actively seeking the business, but if it falls into their lap, the vast majority of unmarried women in Medellin will take the offer.[/QUOTE]Yes bro you said it perfect. Even some married women or women that have a boyfriend will take the opportunity $ for it.
[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3056072]Anyway I'm curious if the police are setting up stings for gringos. I'm not saying I feel sorry for him, but I'm curious as to how the police knew we're to find him, unless someone tipped them off.[/QUOTE]I suspect someone tipped them off. Probably someone saw them together and called the police. I had that happen to me in a restaurant on Cra 70 in Laureles, and the lady I was with was 20 years old.