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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Depending on my mood I can shoot 3 times in a 90days session :) (which is still far from the 5 or 6 times I have read some young chaps shoot at the Eden club).I am already getting too old at 30 LOL[/QUOTE]Nic:The most I can do now is twice a day, but that means 180 times in 90 days compared to your three times in 90 days, and I'm somewhat more than half a century.Canyon
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I hope you meant 90 minutes, not "90 days," Nic. Even I can shoot more than 3 times in 90 days. :)[/QUOTE]Aaarrghhh... yes LOL of course I meant 90 minutes, Thanks for correcting
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Taking a long time to make it is actually a problem, although not a well known one. One ex-GF many years ago was incompatible with me because she could cum twice in 10 mins and after that was too sensitive and had essentially had enough. I was only just getting started.[/QUOTE]My body is very inconsistent... there are times when I can ejaculate in a few minutes, while at other times, I can go a very long time without being able to come.I remember a lady for TOY bar complaining that I was the longest customer she ever had. I just could not come (had no alcohol), she tried HJ, BJ, FS, BJ, HJ, FS all of it several times and just could not finish.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy].....I remember a lady for TOY bar complaining that I was the longest customer she ever had. I just could not come (had no alcohol), she tried HJ, BJ, FS, BJ, HJ, FS all of it several times and just could not finish.[/QUOTE]Milked dry earlier? ;) or nervous in the public bar?
[QUOTE=Zauberfee]Though I will "sacrifice" myself, do some field researches at Chao Phya III and will report here later.[/QUOTE]I will be waiting anxiously for your report. I live in Thonburi and have been to most of the MPs on that side of the river. I have also been once in CP3 but walked prompty outside because the girls did not look nice. Maybe it was due to the fact that I arrived late (around 9pm) and the good ones were taken. However even at 9pm there were lots of girls. The mamasan was nice, though I usually prefer papasans.I have also been in Krungthon Complex. There are some cute girls there, however the sessions go for only 90 minutes including the fishbowl girls. I can speak Thai and I specifically asked the nice papasan if two shots are allowed. You have to talk to the girl and usually a second shot goes for 500B. However, I do not like to squeeze 2 shots in 90 minutes. I find it a little tight in terms of time. Usually in MPs I go for 2 hour sessions unless I see a sideliner to die for!
[quote=mick licker]milked dry earlier? ;) or nervous in the public bar?[/quote]hahaha... not even. she did give me a hj and the start of a bj in the bar (while her friend was covering with a pillow), but i decided to take her to the hotel. once there, it took a long time for me to come. i was on the verge a lot of time but could never achieve my goal, i let her go as i felt i could not come at all (i did @ [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] a little after).as far as i can remember i did not even have sex that day so no explaination. the same think happened to me @ akane a few months back. the girl called a colleague for help and even then they could not make me shoot. one of the ladies suggested i see her for a fuck session after the mp closes but i never took her seriously.
Once in a while people in this forum mention how they hide and conceal their sexual desire for other women, when they are in the presence of a massage lady they've been with before. I've been in similar circumstances. And I've also had to hide like that.The way I've dealt with this fear of possibly offending the lady I've been with before was to go to another massage parlour, even if that other massage parlour wasn't my favorite one. And this is probably what a lot of other men do.I think a lot of massage parlours loose their customers unnecessarily because of this fear effect. Once a man chooses a lady. Then he doesn't feel free to spread his seed among the other ladies he also likes there, even if that's what he really, really wants to do. And to fulfil his natural desire to have many women, this man often ends going to other massage parlours.The original lady doesn't get any more business from the man due to his fear of offending her. Because the man simply goes to another massage parlour in order to avoid offending her. The other massage ladies in that establishment loose a potential customer. Because the man doesn't feel free to propose to them. And of course, the whole establishment looses too. Because their customers don't feel comfortable with having many ladies from the same place.I know that at some massage places it's possible to take out two or even three ladies at the same time. But this kind of excessive gorging during a short period of time is not what most men want. Most men want to have many women, but not necessarily all at the same time. I'd like to have 10 women over a period of 10 days. But I certainly wouldn't want to take out 10 women for a 2-hour massage. To cum 10 times within two hours is too much for any man.And this brings up a question I have. Is there a massage place in Bangkok that is better than most in encouraging their customers to butterfly among their ladies freely and without any fear of offending the ladies?I like to butterfly and have many ladies. But I don't like the fear of butterflying.
Friday night, time for a break from work and needed some relief. Checked the forums for soapies near the hotel and found 2 recommendations, JC and New Versailles.Followed the notes and grabbed a taxi to Montien hotel, saw JC, did not go look for Versailles. This was around 8pm, the streets are full of foreign tourists.Only saw 4 girls available, 2 regulars and 2 in the sofa section (side-liners?), then remember it's the Buddhist holiday. Sat down at a sofa, chit chat with the papasan a bit, and waited for a few more girls to turn up (or come down as the case may be), even then the choices were very limited, overall their looks were so-so. Ordered a Pepsi, 40 bahts, tip 20 bahts.I didn't want to go back empty-handed, so picked the most busty girl, May #19, after checking with the papasan that they are real, rather have them real and small, and not big and enhanced. She was so-so in looks, probably about 23-25 years old, and later found out she was C if not D cup. Paid the cashier, and slipped the papasan a tip.The room upstairs was large and clean, large bathtub and a nice king-size bed. Ordered another Pepsi for me and water for the lady, 100 bahts, 20 bahts tip. Of course, the tub took forever to fill, so we sat around and tried to make small talks, her English was very limited. A lady came in with the basket of soap and stuff, my girl tipped her 20 with her own money, I was not sure what the protocol should have been there, as I already hung up my pants with my wallet.The bath was nice and relaxing, the massage was non-existent. Overall the service, although not mechanical, was average, with a few different positions. I brought my good camera, and asked to snap her in the nude but she politely said No, and cheerfully posed with her clothes on (Sorry, I tried).Would not repeat as I want to try different girls and different places, but she was friendly and smiling, busty on a small frame. I gave her a small tip, she seemed happy with it, smiled, wai'ed, and kissed me on the cheek.fly
First time i passed this street, i wasn?t able to find the place, this time i was lucky (its in the beggining of the street).Arrived, a lady showed me the menu, i choosed, and asked if i could choose "lady", she was not to happy (i wondered if she was planning to do the service ?), and without i noticed a line up with 8-9 girls was arranged.For a parlour that has so many ladies , it seemed very little, but later i discovered its Buddha day, so that may be an explanation.The line up was very weak, i just noticed one interesting, choose it.She told me was working there just for a week (photo, not still in the website), massage was OK, special service was a total deadfish experience !Its the first time i see someone so "dead" !But i have mixed feelings about the experience, she was so cute, probably the cutest ever. She was nice, during the massage and after, it was strange, but i left Thonglor happy.ISG teorics, can evaluate this all issue.Last thing, i agree with Dan 7373 post, i was at Angels, and the girl (also very cute), made clear she wanted me to repeat when i return, since i have little time, and want to add experiences, i havent return to Angels, but i dont think it is possible to make a parlour encourage buterflying, everything is already too much artificial, if we dont allow girls feelings, it becomes even less natural.MonteCristo
[QUOTE=Montecristo]....Last thing, i agree with Dan 7373 post, i was at Angels, and the girl (also very cute), made clear she wanted me to repeat when i return, since i have little time, and want to add experiences, i havent return to Angels, but i dont think it is possible to make a parlour encourage buterflying, everything is already too much artificial, if we dont allow girls feelings, it becomes even less natural.MonteCristo[/QUOTE]What's artificial and what's natural is different for men and for women. I think men are naturally inclined to spread their seed and have as many women as they can have. And butterflying from one sexy lady to another is the most natural way for men to behave. But women benefit the most from a man who sticks around and supports them for a long time. And women naturally want to prevent their men from seeing other women. It's one of those cases where men and woman are different from each other. And that which is natural for men is not natural for women.But polygamy is a well-established tradition in many cultures. Which means that women can and often do modify their natural behavior when it suits them. And actually polygamy used to be practiced in Thailand up until the 20th century. I see no good reason why massage women would rather have their men go to other massage places to look for other women, than exchange these men between themselves and have these men stay with their group.Men will butterfly with many women anyway. Because this is natural for them. And the only thing to be decided is in what way will the men butterfly? Will they keep going to many massage places? Or will they stay with one massage place and butterfly among the ladies there?It seems to me that massage women would benefit the most by exchanging their men with each other and keeping these men within their group for a long time. This would by like polygamy and polyandry all rolled into one. And who is to say that this is not natural? There are human cultures where polygamy and polyandry exist naturally.
[QUOTE=Dan7373]Once in a while people in this forum mention how they hide and conceal their sexual desire for other women, when they are in the presence of a massage lady they've been with before. I've been in similar circumstances. And I've also had to hide like that.The way I've dealt with this fear of possibly offending the lady I've been with before was to go to another massage parlour, even if that other massage parlour wasn't my favorite one. And this is probably what a lot of other men do.I think a lot of massage parlours loose their customers unnecessarily because of this fear effect. Once a man chooses a lady. Then he doesn't feel free to spread his seed among the other ladies he also likes there, even if that's what he really, really wants to do. And to fulfil his natural desire to have many women, this man often ends going to other massage parlours.The original lady doesn't get any more business from the man due to his fear of offending her. Because the man simply goes to another massage parlour in order to avoid offending her. The other massage ladies in that establishment loose a potential customer. Because the man doesn't feel free to propose to them. And of course, the whole establishment looses too. Because their customers don't feel comfortable with having many ladies from the same place.I know that at some massage places it's possible to take out two or even three ladies at the same time. But this kind of excessive gorging during a short period of time is not what most men want. Most men want to have many women, but not necessarily all at the same time. I'd like to have 10 women over a period of 10 days. But I certainly wouldn't want to take out 10 women for a 2-hour massage. To cum 10 times within two hours is too much for any man.And this brings up a question I have. Is there a massage place in Bangkok that is better than most in encouraging their customers to butterfly among their ladies freely and without any fear of offending the ladies?I like to butterfly and have many ladies. But I don't like the fear of butterflying.[/QUOTE]I do not care at all, and take many different ladies from the same place.Read my lips. You are paying for sexual services. She is taking the money.Therefore, do not be shy, do not be in fear, walk in, choose which one you want, if you see the ones you took before simply smile at them (please do not avoid looking at them. That is naughty) and say hello.There is no reason in the world anyone should have any fear. You are paying for sex. If she wants to fuck you for free, then yes, you should not be butterflying around as she has given up income in order to get serviced by you, but in the event you are paying, well, carry on doing whatever you want.Do not try to apply "ethics" to prostitution. They fuck for money, you pay for fucking - ENJOY!
[QUOTE=Dan7373]And this brings up a question I have. Is there a massage place in Bangkok that is better than most in encouraging their customers to butterfly among their ladies freely and without any fear of offending the ladies?I like to butterfly and have many ladies. But I don't like the fear of butterflying.[/QUOTE]I am a big butterfly too and never had a problem anywhere. Most oilies have a Book system so the original massage girl you had last time can never know you were there unless you walk in their area to see girls in flesh.Akane is very relax for that, the girls I have had before always come and sit with me after my session (even though I did not choose them this time), kiss and fondle, as a reminder that they are still here and want my business.
[QUOTE=Dan7373]...I like to butterfly and have many ladies. But I don't like the fear of butterflying.[/QUOTE]Don?t be fooled. As dedicated (w)hore mongers, we men must not forget that the girls we play with are ? well? *****s. GFE is part of the illusion we are paying for. Paying them automatically gives us the privilege to butterfly without fear. Look at it from the opposite perspective. For every time you play with one of them, she plays with 100 other guys. If that bothers you, you shouldn?t be a monger. And if your butter-flying bothers her, she shouldn?t be a (w)hore.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Don?t be fooled. As dedicated ***** mongers, we men must not forget that the girls we play with are ? well? *****s. GFE is part of the illusion we are paying for. Paying them automatically gives us the privilege to butterfly without fear. Look at it from the opposite perspective. For every time you play with one of them, she plays with 100 other guys. If that bothers you, you shouldn?t be a monger. And if your butter-flying bothers her, she shouldn?t be a *****.[/QUOTE]Well some Mongers are just recommending what they do without thinking about the girls too much at all.Dan7373 is allowing for girls psychology somewhat, no matter how difficult this may be. I don't care who the girl is screwing when I am not there with her (as long as she is doing it safely). When I want her and she is not available that can be annoying.On the other hand I am not naive enough to believe that all girls are totally unaffected by the sight of one of their customers butterflying.A girl may develop a "special" feeling towards you if she believes that she is your special favourite at that venue.Thats if you want her to believe that.My Utopia girl knows I will choose her if she is available however has started asking questions about do I have a GF etc. since I don't see her that often.Some working girls do have feelings toward their favourite customers. An ex-GF of mine was a Soapy girl and she was extremely jealous, which led to our split. She was very angry any time she suspected me of playing up.In her logic when she was working, it was just work. So that was not "butterflying".Another factor is that in some bars a girl may refuse to go with you for fear of upsetting her friend who you went with previously. A lot of bitching happens in bars re one girl trying to steal another girl's customer. Now this is ridiculous but it happens!Fortunately this is not true of Massage Parlours.
[QUOTE=Flyhere]Friday night, time for a break from work and needed some relief. Checked the forums for soapies near the hotel and found 2 recommendations, JC and New Versailles.Followed the notes and grabbed a taxi to Montien hotel, saw JC, did not go look for Versailles. This was around 8pm, the streets are full of foreign tourists.Only saw 4 girls available, 2 regulars and 2 in the sofa section (side-liners?), then remember it's the Buddhist holiday. Sat down at a sofa, chit chat with the papasan a bit, and waited for a few more girls to turn up (or come down as the case may be), even then the choices were very limited, overall their looks were so-so. Ordered a Pepsi, 40 bahts, tip 20 bahts.I didn't want to go back empty-handed, so picked the most busty girl, May #19, after checking with the papasan that they are real, rather have them real and small, and not big and enhanced. She was so-so in looks, probably about 23-25 years old, and later found out she was C if not D cup. Paid the cashier, and slipped the papasan a tip.....Would not repeat as I want to try different girls and different places, but she was friendly and smiling, busty on a small frame. I gave her a small tip, she seemed happy with it, smiled, wai'ed, and kissed me on the cheek.fly[/QUOTE]Maybe should have checked Versailles if so little choice at JC. I had a good time with Red #20 Jip with C cup naturals:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=723406&highlight=versailles#post723406[/url]She was better than the JC girl I have tried too!