London

Revol999,

just my opinion but being an American male I do best in foreign countries not because anyone likes Americans these days but because I am different than every other bloke that night that hits on her. In my home city of SF I dont do as well eventhough I should. I doubt it is you. I also find London difficult because everyone in London is a foreigner, I find women guarded. Head to spain, warsaw or portugal. Last advice, watch the movie Hitch. It is probably the truest movie on skills I have ever seen.

Best of luck,

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Is anyone aware of places where its possible to pick up women (I mean atleast above average in looks, not mingers) And..is there anything out of the ordinary that needs to be done when approaching, chatting up. Please don’t tell me tips on pick up lines, displaying confidence etc cause I know all about it. When I say I find it impossible to pick up in London I mean only London and the rest of England. For picking up when out, I'm had a substantial amount of luck in America, Mexico and Canada....

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

wow, thanks to all of you that followed up with my report on the london scene and to ripple for sending me some private feedback.

well i thought i would elaborate further and give some recommendations to you guys on various places to pull/get laid for free in london. some of guys thought i am unable to pull in london. that isn’t the case, i do pull/have free sex but it doesn’t happen as often as it should and i don’t think its worth going out every weekend for a month only for a couple of pulls.

with regard to all my suggestions below--remember it’s assuming your above average in looks, well dressed and give the impression your well off. also--the most helpful tool to use is to go with lady friend/lady friends. if i cannot find a lady friend for a certain night or there aren’t girls in the group i don’t bother going out at all unless it’s stringfellows. the chances of you pulling rises 500% if your with a girl. however ensure the friend isn’t the jealous type, its best you go with two so you don’t feel guilty about leaving the other one to talk to some girl.

clubs: avoid the west end at any cost, unless you’re a vip going to the vip section of a club and are looking to spend £1000. for clubbing, the only two places i've pulled/had a good time in london are chinawhite and funky buddha. the thing about both places is that nearly everyone out there is rich/famous etc, therefore you will have nearly every girl check you out so dress smart. i would say you can pull here once every 2-3 times your there. however, one night at such a place= min. £100 (£20 for cover, £15 for cab home, £10--£15 per drink)

pubs: too many guys and for obvious reasons unless your in the city not many women/no attractive women. an easy target here are american girls. who desire to be 'english' and go there. they are very accessible/cool. but for some reason i think young american girls in america are the hottest but the ones in london are more like 6's/10.

bars/dance bars: dance bars around fulham should enable you to pull a south african or aussie bird. far cheaper, lot of them around. but it’s unlikely to lead to anything more than just a pull/one night.

i don’t know if anyone’s noticed but in chelsea/kensington there about 3 women for every guy. infact, everywhere you look be it restaurants, bars, on the street, shops. there are women everywhere. nearly all these women are english, 26--36 and reasonably good looking but all are in groups of 4--5 women. i've heard a lot of eastern european escorts who work from the area go out too. from experience with a few russian non-escorts, emphasizing your british passport, good job and house= sex

other places for women: i've heard speed dating is big in london. however, i saw an event at onanon and another at soundbar and it appeared like half the men there are there because they have no hope of meeting a woman elsewhere. of the women, there were a few attractive ones but i don’t know if they go there to meet men or just for fun/play a game to see how many men desire them. however, i might try this out since it costs £25 for the event and you meet 20 girls and get a free drink. so there you have it guys, to summarise these should be your targets: places to go: exclusive clubs, chelsea bars and clubs

women to meet: eastern european or american.

personally, i don’t think of going out to get laid or else the night sucks. i go out to the above places and do what i've mentioned maybe 6--7 times a month. i think i pull on an average once every 8--9 times, get laid after a night out once every few months. however, remember i don’t make much of an effort to approach, buy drinks etc. if your going to do all that i'd rather just ring an escort and shag her for £150. as for longer term relationships, you always click with someone and that leads to something more.

as for the longer term stuff: american girls are best, since they are looking for a good time while here/appreciate you taking them out since the dollar weakening has made london very expensive for them.

eastern european girls will bleed you dry, remember your golden ticket is your passport, talking about job and stuff you've done that give the impression your rich. don’t waste money on these girls because they can’t speak much english or are just dumb and never even offer to pay. i dated a latvian girl i met at a bar. took her out and stuff. spent around £400 on her being getting laid. then realised what the hell have i just done so only talked about how great life would be for her here in the uk and all sorts of other materialistic things. in the end, i probably shagged her around 20 times without spending any more money on here. so rather than £400 for 1 shag, i got 20 shags for £400.

english girls are expensive to take out however are far more refined and sophisticated than the eastern european girls but not as good looking. you take your pick whether your want beauty or brains, how many lies/false impressions are you willing to give etc. generally speaking here is a chart on my returns per woman in london:

british: £200 for the 1st shag, £70 maintenance per week for subsequent shags around 2--3 times per week

american: £100 for the 1st shag (since you can go to low-end places) £40 per week for 2-3 times per week

eastern european: just lie through your teeth about everything, money+ your passport= everything for free. be careful though—she could be a working girl. however its still free.

so yeah. i hope this helps. go out with your friends, have fun and you meet someone. if you really feel the urge just use an escort. speaking of escorts, someone mentioned that this site is for guys looking to pay less for sex and £150--200 is too much. personally, you can pay less but believe me looks and quality is compromised. if you just want a hole to stick it into a blow-up doll is cheapest. and, if you start out at soho paying £20 for sex. then move to a brothel where its £70. you'll think wow this was amazing. however you have to experience a £200 session to believe it and realise what true quality is. then again. yes it is expensive but hey aren’t most good things in life.

Just to follow up with my post below. I have financially quantified the cost of the relationship, have established a target market etc making it appear easy. However, the difficulty still remains actually meeting the girl. Hopefully, this will help you ..but the actual meeting still isnt very easy in London as the girls tend to stick to each other, are on their guard etc.

Personally, I program the numbers for agencies into my phonebook. If I go out and find someone, I find them well and good. If I dont I go home or ring to meet an escort. By following what I've said below I would say you will get some non escort action 6 months in the year and the balance six just use an escort or go abroad.

Decided to attend a party in London - my first.

As it was a recent Wednesday - the sacred rose party had the time and line-up that suited. Found about it from where else ? - ISG and a previous post.

Emailed for a booking to the Wednesday night party, followed by a phone call to confirm and get directions. - there is also an afternoon one. 7:00p to 10:30 pm. 4 girls - site says a maximum of 12 guests.

Easy to find - Get out at Earls Court tube station turn right about 200 yards along Warwick Street which is one of the exits. Kaylee the manageress will give you the exact address by telephone when you arrive at the station.

Was welcomed by Fred - the gentleman/doorman and cashier, followed by the bubbly Kaylee. Introduced to the girls - who were exactly the 3 on the web-site as working that day plus the other who's picture was mounted as she was listed as New.

It is a basement flat with kitchen, living room, two bathrooms with showers and two bedrooms. Very clean and everything in order.

Soon other guests arrived - free drinks of all kinds plus nibbles available and offered. As there would be late arrivals, and there was only 6 guest and 4 girls, it did not seem to worry anyone. Kaylee had returned recently form vacation and didn't take part in the party directly that evening.

All guests received a large brown envelope for their valuables and cash etc. - There was no requirement to pay the fee for the party until then end of the party - not upfront which is a nice touch.

After a few minutes, Kaylee suggested that if anyone had come directly form work and wanted a quick shower then it was a good time to do it. A number did and all changed out of their clothes and guests wore wrap aound sarongs only - the girls had various bits and pieces.

Everyone had a drink and then Kaylee again announced that there would be some late arriving guests but why not start the party now? Why not indeed?

The girls, bless their hearts, were enthousiastic and ready for the bedrooms - all went along and had room for everyone on the large beds.

Basically, the entire evening was a free for all - join as you and the others wished - any position - BBBJ very popular and for the first round each girl managed both on multiple partners. If a quiet or not so quiet time behind a closed door is your thing, then the sacred rose parties may not be your thing.

What impressed was the very casual, no stress environment - all the guests related well - it was often after you my good man and great team work by the guests and the girls was evident.

After a session, time to relax with a beer or wine on the living room sofas and then off again as the girls were always willing or you could join a session already underway as there was usually one going for the entire 3 1/2 hours.

Plenty of time for chats in the kitchen with guests, girls and Kaylee or Fred. A great time.

So, the cost. 120 pounds sterling for the entire party, drinks and as much sex as you could handle. Got to be great value and a bonus added to the very relaxed evening.

At the party were Shannon, Claudia, Larissa and Clarisa.

Two very Welsh girls - great fun and ready at any time - great bodies as well. One Italian who just couldn't stop again a great body and loved to keep it in constant use and a Russian with a very good body - very friendly and ready to party as were all the girls.

In the end, we only had 9 guests for the 4 girls - so a great mix. Most stayed 'till the last half hour and then moved off.

Another highlight was a show put on by two of the girls - one with a strap one - as much for a laugh as erotic which it also was. Who else but the Italian lady was on the receiving end and demanding more everyminute.

A great intermezzo to the evening.

Got a final shower of several - dressed and the brown envelope with my name on it was given back from being locked up for security. Opened it and gave Fred at the door the 120 pounds and off into the night after kisses from all the girls and Kaylee. A firm and hearty handshake only from Fred because he is a bit of a minger :-))

What did I get up to? Everything and with all the girls that I wished for - some one on one - lots of 2 or more on one - all hands on the pumps. Who is counting on the number of blow jobs? The girls have great stamina - assisted by the relaxed behaviour of the guests and management.

So, first London party - and absolutely no complaints - loved every relaxed minute. Will I go again ? Absolutely, and can highly recommend the sacred rose parties. Just what any Doctor would order. Enjoy and thanks to all.

Next time, I think that I'll try the afternoon party. They also have parties on Mondays and other days - check the website, it's all there, for the times, costs and girls who will be at the party. [url]http://www.sacredroseparties.com/[/url]

your right about those parties, i attended yesterdays party its was great the moment you walked it you felt comfortable i have attended a previous party with another site but for quality of girls sacredrose is hard to beat, yesterday was clarisse,gabi and melena, three true babes all 10's in my book, non stop action for two hours, i was the last one out, hehehehe.
but guys if you want your monies worth this is the place, dont think about going just pick a party that suites your free time and give kaylee a call, i remember before i went to my first party, i was not easy calling up but surley this is the place.

try it you wont regret it!!!

i have a picture with the girls but will call kaylee and ask for her permission to post it here (i surely dont want to get in her bad books).

"I've also noticed reports on how easy girls in London are. I disagree and would be grateful if you guys can help with some advice. I've lived in London my whole life, I'm good looking too (seriously) and I've asked friends, WG's I visit etc for a brutally honest rating of attractiveness and no ones ever said less than an 8/10 or top 20% of guys around. Besides being well built and well maintained I also attended uni at Bristol and have just started off as a financial analyst in a small fund management company. My communication skills, dress code are as good as it can get ( and I am complimented). As for meetings girls I never struggle for conversation and can treat them like a gentleman. However...in all my years I have never had success in a bar, pub or club. I've visited places in just about every neighbourhood at some point in time without success"

Revol999

I am much older than you (in my mid 40's) and have lived and worked in London for over 25 years. I have never had the problems you have encountered and would argue it is not too difficult to pick up in London. Maybe you should read your post back to yourself, I think the key to your lack of success is quite obvious!!

Guys, I've been getting a lot of feedback, some of which is a tad patronising. To re-phrase what I've said before:

I have lived in American, Canada and Argentina--I never went a week without meeting some girl or the other when out. A pull or sex was the norm rather than exception.

My only question was why is it that in London its not even half as easy that and there were any secrets exclusive to London on doing so.

However, many of guys (most notably some old, out of shape ones) seem to think that it is easy--Hullo, just cause you picked up a minger once in your life doesnt
mean its easy.

Therefore, dont waste your time or use up space on this board cause quite frankly those of you who have responded to me and private messaged me have written things along the line of 'Hey, You shouldnt have any trouble picking up girls in London. I picked up a 45 year old thrice divorced size 16 woman or I picked up a drugged out ex-street worker but hey I wasnt paying so it counts as a pickup or the purpose of this board is not to recommendend £200 an hour escorts but rather trafficked £20 an hour Kosovan village girls who have unprotected sex'

Actually we should all get back to our hobby instead of commenting on Revol999 as not one of us knows him.

Here is a great recommendation - Use the site latinangelsoflondon.co.uk, very professional, great quality, photos are untouched and true. Carmen is especially a good GFE, very wild.

so you are seriously good looking, well built, well maintained, and attend uni, are a financial analyst, and your dress code is good, and your always being complimented, is there anything else? well hung as well, talk about blow your trumpet, so whats your problem then? how you got no success? you must be incredibly boring, if your all of the above, then what are you doing on this thread? fucking beats me.stop fucking moaning on and get some reports and photos on the board

Hi!

Last night I was with this 150/200 girl who didn't look very appealing. We did BBBJ and a vaginal intercourse with a condom.

Do you know if the girls are required by their agencies to perform STD tests ?

Has anyone ever had an STD experience with an "online" escort ?

Thanks

Diceman

you are flaming the wrong guy, Revol wrote this (27March) not Mortman. Look at the quotes Mortman has in his post and go back a few posts of Revol and you will see.

Great to be sarcastic Diceman, but your targeting is way off.

Pleasure

A couple of reports:

Roxy Rimming - as the title says: attractive blonde (40's) - a bit mad though ....OWC, rimming (with clingfilm- didn't do it for me,), sex 2 positions.
£150 / Kensington. Worth it for the novelty value!

Susie (also blonde, 40 - she looks like an older version of Sam from Eastenders), nice white coat, stockings and not much else underneath, good oily massage for 15 minutes, OWC with good eye contact, sex with her on top - great view, finished her from behind - nice and wet.
£100

:-)

sorry for the slating mortman, maybe you should highlight a quote next time, anyway, revol999, your the one its aimed at get a life son, before i do one of my expose's on you

Hi everybody !

I have a one-night stay in a Heathrow airport and I am looking for a massage parlour or a good masseuse close to Heathrow airport.

If you have some good spots.

Regards !