Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1312348]In my country a single man can't say he wen't to Pattaya with out people knowing he is a sex tourist. I have to make up a story about going some place else in Thailand. Still working on my cover for going next month.

You guys have any good ideas or suggestions?[/QUOTE]It'll be more believable if it fits what they already know about you. Like the sea? Fishing? Snorkeling? Say you went to Phuket. How you back that up is your problem. Need dental or medical treatment at a reduced rate? You're in the right place. Go home with a sex change operation and who could deny your cover story? Sorry, I was being helpful up until then.

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[QUOTE=The Scout;1312163]Wow! That's an interesting insight. I always thought the families knew what they were getting themselves into and try to mostly stay in Phratunmak or Jomtien. But I noticed the majority in these areas seem to be Russian or Eastern European. I've seen the Asian family tourists stay near 3rd road and Naklua.[/QUOTE]I met a girl in China online, good girl university student who dreamed of visting other countries. She booked a tour to Thailand / Cambodia using all her savings, for her this was a hugely extravagant expense. The tour put them in Chinatown in Bangkok, often took them to jewelry shops and malls where they'd be let loose for shopping time (I'm sure there were kickbacks for this) , to some major sites in BKK like palace, what Po etc. Kanchanaburi was on the itinerary for one day trip. And Pattaya a few days, where they saw a lady boy show (?) , went to the beach and of course yet more souvenir shopping. The Cambodia leg? Koh Kong casino, not even 1km inside the country, for a short day trip, then back to Thailand. To make that seem like a legitimate tourist expreience, they had Khmer dancers perform for them at the hotel / casino.

Middle class people I've met in Vietnam have told me about their own trips to Thailand that had similar itineraries. One VNese friend of a friend even got hit with the jet ski scam in Pattaya for $600, which is devastating for someone who saves for a few years to be able to make that trip. I can't wait for one of those jet ski guys to pull that on the wrong Russian mafia thug, end up strung up on a light pole.

p.s.: Dear Jackson, the spell checker on the forum is a bit overzealous. It automatically changed the name of the most famous tourist site in Thailand from its proper spelling/capitalization to the word 'what' all lower case.

I have used "koh samui" on my wife.

[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1312348]In my country a single man can't say he wen't to Pattaya with out people knowing he is a sex tourist. I have to make up a story about going some place else in Thailand. Still working on my cover for going next month.

You guys have any good ideas or suggestions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BambiJacobson;1312348]In my country a single man can't say he wen't to Pattaya with out people knowing he is a sex tourist. I have to make up a story about going some place else in Thailand. Still working on my cover for going next month.You guys have any good ideas or suggestions?[/QUOTE]My friends all know where I go and why I go there. I have travelled and punted with some of my best buddies for years and some of them are wilder and crazier than I am. But I understand from bitter experience that appearances have to be maintained for certain straight laced business associates and conservative family members. It is not wise to divulge too much personal stuff to these individuals. They are still hardwired into the MATRIX and if told the truth, they will do you harm. I don't even like telling these folks I am going to Thailand. Even the dumbest and most naive ones will catch on sooner or later."Natty, you are going to Thailand, AGAIN? Didn't you go there last year and the year before and the year before. And the year before that? You must really like it there, you go so often. What do you do there?" So I make up fictional itineraries for these folks. Last year for example, I went to Southern China and visited Dali and Lijiang. I had a make believe great time. Actually I did visit HKG and Macau so I wasn't too far off. LOL. Another year I was trekking in Nepal. The year before that I was visiting Bagan and Mandalay, Burma. Fortunately I have been to all these countries so I can describe things pretty good and have a hard drive of pictures to back it up. My storys hold up because I have been traveling for decades and I am known for being well travelled. Most people don't really care about where you go as long as you are not going somewhere hedonistic and naughty, so big elaborations are not necessary. Just tell them you had a good time, the country was very beautiful and the people were friendly. The conversation will quickly move on to more mundane topics.

Be sure to set your Skype account to show your home cell phone number as your caller id.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1313117]. But I understand from bitter experience that appearances have to be maintained for certain straight laced business associates and conservative family members.[/quote]I will always remember the look at me from a German immigration agent when I handed over my passport and boarding card of the TG flight to BKK :"Bangkok. Ts ts ts" and a glance that said all ("you bastard don't tell me you go for business, I am envious") LOL

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1313117]Be sure to set your Skype account to show your home cell phone number as your caller id.[/QUOTE]Thanks HenryV, Natty Bumpo and Bionicman for suggestions.

My cover has to be so that when I use my cellphone, which I must, to text or call home it will say 0066 infront of my number (Thailand area code) so it has to be a place in Thailand.

My current favorite picks are Koh Samui or Koh Chang. I am leaning towards Koh Chang because I have a divers license and :" I really want to explore the beautifull ocean bed there."

Which is kinda true in that there in all likelihood will be beds and (muff) diving involved in my travels.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1313117]Most people don't really care about where you go as long as you are not going somewhere hedonistic and naughty, so big elaborations are not necessary. Just tell them you had a good time, the country was very beautiful and the people were friendly. The conversation will quickly move on to more mundane topics.[/QUOTE]Even if you go somewhere hedonistic and naughty most people don't care. It seems as if you guys just think you will be embarrassed though, but I have never found that to be the case. My mother and 2 of her sisters visited me in Pattaya this year and they had a great time. They are not blind or stupid. They could see all the old foreigners with the young Thai girls and all of the lady boys at night on Walking Street. But they didn't give a rat's ass. And they are all church ladies. I even took them into my disco hunting grounds.

Whenever ANYONE outside of Thailand asks me if I have a girlfriend or wife in Thailand I tell them that there are enough women in Pattaya alone that I can have a different one every day for the rest of my life so how could I choose just one.

Yesterday I sent a "girlfriend" of mine in BRAZIL of all places a youtube video of Pattaya and she thought it was funny and interesting, but not shameful:

Mari said.

Sleep? Sleeping now?

Now I know why you live in Thailand. Girls. Girls. Girls. Naughty girls, right?

Mrenternational x_x_x said.

Funny.

Brasil. Girls. Girls. Girls. Naughty girls tambem!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1313338]Even if you go somewhere hedonistic and naughty most people don't care.[/QUOTE]The matter is if the people you are talking to are "prude" or not, open minded or not, they immedaitely link Thailand to sex (only) or what.

I started to go to Thailand visit a good friend of mine who runs a bar on an island, fully "legitimate" trip as I was nearby and a few days to kill without returning back home.

Wife was ok with it. She never been to Thailand and will never go, for a fact.

Whether she thinks I avail of some fun, I don't know, maybe she thinks, maybe she doesn't. Even when I stay in BKK for few days. I jsut say I like the atmosphere, realx, food, people (see? I do not lie, people includes also girl, LOL)

Still when we talk with friends and I mention Thailand, some give "that smile". See what I mean? She commented once "I do not know what he does there."

But it is hedgy as some can imagine.

Of course I do not share by all means with family friends anything that might induce "bad thinking", I slip the subject.

But she once said: "heard about sex with minors is sometime offered in those countries, that is absolutely bad". So she make a firm statement like "don't care what happens there, but stay away from that"

If we see passers by in the hot areas of Pattaya, Phuket and BKK indeed we see families.

It is all visible and clear. It is inevitable somebody will ask her / himself: "is this guy not taking any of these when he is here"?

[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1313225]Thanks HenryV, Natty Bumpo and Bionicman for suggestions. My cover has to be so that when I use my cellphone, which I must, to text or call home it will say 0066 infront of my number (Thailand area code) so it has to be a place in Thailand.

My current favorite picks are Koh Samui or Koh Chang. I am leaning towards Koh Chang because I have a divers license and :" I really want to explore the beautifull ocean bed there."

Which is kinda true in that there in all likelihood will be beds and (muff) diving involved in my travels.[/QUOTE]Sometime the intl code does not come out, sometime I have strange numbers visible and can't see what it is (surely some intl provider generic switchboard ID)

You can always say it is some funny switchboard number as with digital phone lines nowadays, phone connections get funny routes.

Onlyu have to be careful on the background noise. First time I went to Thailand, officially I was in KL. Got a call from home when I was on the beach and the daughter of my friend was about to shout my name in the back ground. I quickly moved away. Difficult to explain why somebody in KL was calling me, with seawave noise in the background.

Always call home first, taking advantage of time difference, saying you soon go to bed) so that you do not get a call whilst you are in a bar with the noise and shouting in the background. Do not answer to calls if at night you are somewhere naughty, you just have to say you went to bed early. And if a girl is diving in your bed before you pick the phone just say "home calling", she'll keep quiet.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1313359]Sometime the intl code does not come out, sometime I have strange numbers visible and can't see what it is (surely some intl provider generic switchboard ID) You can always say it is some funny switchboard number as with digital phone lines nowadays, phone connections get funny routes.[/QUOTE]This happens especially when calling from Skype. When I am outside of Thailand and call someone in Thailand they say a Thai number shows up. They try to call it back and get shit. When I call my mother in the States from Skype she says that sometimes all 0s come up. It seems like these caller IDs have taken over so much that people can not longer just answer the phone and ask who is calling. It works when you have never been anywhere and are just used to talking to people in your local circle, but it is shit for people who are on a global scale. When I left Thailand last month everyday I called a chick and she would never answer the phone. When I got back last week I chewed her out. She said she never got my calls because she did not see my number in her phone. I had to explain to her there is no way she can see my Thai number if I am not calling from my Thai phone IN Thailand. Sheesh. But can I really expect them to know any better?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1313374]This happens especially when calling from Skype. When I am outside of Thailand and call someone in Thailand they say a Thai number shows up. They try to call it back and get shit.[/QUOTE]I refer to cell phone calls to eitehr ground or cell lines. Happens often, not only in Asia, the display number is "non-sense" and not even much related to the country.

[quote=bionicman;1313359]sometime the intl code does not come out, sometime i have strange numbers visible and can't see what it is (surely some intl provider generic switchboard id)[/quote]yes, it's true, sometime inter calls are looks funny and confusing. here is my 2 bhts, might be explained a bit. this may clear some clouds for other posters too.

every country has own phone regulatory authority. this authority provides phone channels for themselves and for other phone operators too. when some one dials using generic country code and the voice runs through the generic channel than the receiver will get the original call destination has been dialed out. and it was the standard way was in practice since from the phone service was born.

now a days there are some other phone call in practice, is called voip. voice over internet protocol. it's a cheap phone service and in every country has legal or illegal providers doing huge business. they using various channels provided by the phone operators for voice routes. it is very simple and easy method for a known person using simply a high speed pc with internet and some ip (s) (provided by the phone operators). they handle millions of voice channels just throwing them in their convenient low cost routs available that time. that's why some one receiving a phone call in his bed while he was rimming a pussy in pat, showing unknown numbers or a number from malaysia. when he hear the voice from other end, he shocked and immediately pulled out his finger because, it was his wife from home in another country.

it happen just bcuz, some one used cheap call service instead of using straight generic country code. or the phone operator from any part diverting the phone calls to any voip service. off course you can not call back in this numbers because the voip providers using the sim you can call dead sim. these are used for call generation only not for receiving.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1311980]Freeler, glad you had a good time. Most of us think Pattaya still rocks, but your report left out some key critical information like the names of bars you hung out in and that you thought rocked, how many girls were available in these places, their quality and attitude.[/QUOTE]I don't hang out is bars. Bars are for losers. I strolled along Beach Road and a whole bunch of gals I had before wanted to cum with me gladly. For the unknowing at what may seem 7-ties prices, but they are really 2012 numbers. Learn to speak some Thai, be nice, make them happy too and enjoy like me. I didn't like Pattaya much over the past 6 or 7 years, but now. DAMN!

F:)!

[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1312023]Pussy for 300bt Freeler? You didn't, did you? No surely not. Not a Bush babe?[/QUOTE]Don't you know that by now even Thai-Chinese chicks shave? Only way upcountry some girl still keep their Bush.

F:)!

[QUOTE=Freeler; 1313779]Don't you know that by now even Thai-Chinese chicks shave? Only way upcountry some girl still keep their Bush.

F![/QUOTE]When Bumholes mentioned a Bush Babe he wasn't talking about public hair. He was talking about the women who hang at the crack shacks up in the Bush across from the go cart racing thing.