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What is the consensus on here about the Massage Republic girls? L am specifically talking about the ones who list themselves as Korean.

L messaged several of them last week, then something happened. One of the girls took exception to me using some Korean (serious, she was that petty), and started getting really personal with me. After a few back and forth the other girls.

Started emailing me as well and were referencing things that were in the emails between me and said first girl. Also the first girl was referencing things that l had not sent, disclosed or asked her as yet, it was all very strange and left me thinking that either a) this is the same girl operating under different aliases, b) the girls are all in cahoots with each other. The debacle finished with me concluding that, ultimately, what does it matter what the details are no way l am going with any of these girls regardless.

Some of the girls listed have good reviews but to all intents and purposes it is probably pretty easy to leave a review on MR so how can you tell?

Broadly speaking what do you guys think of the girls on there? Have you had good experiences or is it a scam? I am already highly suspicious.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2328228]General Info (updated May 2019).
Many different concepts and events (club orgy, threesome, relay, angel, nuru).
[/QUOTE]Please say more about these concepts.

Where do Lip cafes or any other club advertise? Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2328228]General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

Blowjob room, requires call reservation.

<Pros .

- Cheap.

- Girls range from good to hot.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- 20 minutes (reality 15 minutes).

- Robotic, No GFE.

- Switches to handjobs after 5 minutes..[/QUOTE]Please can you name all the remaining window girls red light districts left in Seoul? I Know 588 which was big closed down.

[QUOTE=Seoul2012;2328473]What is the consensus on here about the Massage Republic girls? L am specifically talking about the ones who list themselves as Korean.

L messaged several of them last week, then something happened. One of the girls took exception to me using some Korean (serious, she was that petty), and started getting really personal with me. After a few back and forth the other girls.

Started emailing me as well and were referencing things that were in the emails between me and said first girl. Also the first girl was referencing things that l had not sent, disclosed or asked her as yet, it was all very strange and left me thinking that either a) this is the same girl operating under different aliases, b) the girls are all in cahoots with each other. The debacle finished with me concluding that, ultimately, what does it matter what the details are no way l am going with any of these girls regardless.

Some of the girls listed have good reviews but to all intents and purposes it is probably pretty easy to leave a review on MR so how can you tell?

Broadly speaking what do you guys think of the girls on there? Have you had good experiences or is it a scam? I am already highly suspicious.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's the cartel you ran into. Now you know why almost everyone on MR charges the same price. And why escorts from all over the world are flocking to Korea, because they can charge rates they wouldn't dream of charging back home, at least for the level of services being provided.

The ones that aren't in the cartel work for agencies, almost all of which are run by the same group (s) of pimps, so basically a different cartel.

No doubt they have a few genuine reports, but the majority of their reports are fake.

Not sure why there were so many mistakes in that first message, sorry.

L meant to say "After a few messages back and forth the other girls started emailing me as well" and those "L"s should be "l"s too!

That is terribly disappointing; do they take your money before doing next to fuck all and telling you that you not getting hard is your problem bye bye?! Or something similar? L think the price is decent compared to the UK, where l am from, but if you are getting shit service then obviously it isn't. Also frustrating how Korean guys pay a fraction of that at OPs as well.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2328838]That's the cartel you ran into. Now you know why almost everyone on MR charges the same price. And why escorts from all over the world are flocking to Korea, because they can charge rates they wouldn't dream of charging back home, at least for the level of services being provided.

The ones that aren't in the cartel work for agencies, almost all of which are run by the same group (s) of pimps, so basically a different cartel.

No doubt they have a few genuine reports, but the majority of their reports are fake.[/QUOTE]

There are far more and far cheaper options in the UK. You have AW, viva street etc. 300k won gets me one pop with a MR escort in Korea, the same amount gets me a slot at the Phoenix club in London, a full on orgy with hot women and unlimited pops.

250 k would get me a full hour with 2 pops on usual with most escorts on AW. If I just want a one pop quickie for 20-30 minutes in the UK, which is what is falsely classified as a full hour here in Korea, I'the be paying something in the region of 90 k won, and that's with escorts on AW. Not to mention massage joints, brothels and other places where the services are much cheaper.

What we're seeing in Korea is providers jacking up rates to silly levels simply because foreigners are shut out of the majority of the local scene, and seem to have no choice but to comply. I've seen instances where new girls start advertising at 120-150 k won, which isn't too bad, and within a few weeks their rate jumps up to exactly the same as what the cartels charge.

Some girls have even complained about threats from agencies who initially 'offered' to work with them but were refused. So it seems like there is a concerted effort to keep the prices up at inflated rates. I called this out way back around 2013-4 when one of the first cartels started, a group of girls banded together. I doubt they're still in the scene or still in control, the monster they created has gotten way out of hand.

New independent on CL. Not going to visit, because it's too steep for me, given that she has to fund her travel (no place of business).

From inquiry, after seeing her ad: [URL]https://seoul.craigslist.org/bts/d/massage/6900548735.html[/URL].

It's relaxing massage with happy encore.

Duration: 45 minutes until 1 hour.

• massage ending with HJ 100,000 krw.

• massage ending with BJ 125,000 krw.

But I won't do sex.

Yes I'm female, I'm 24 years old girl, student here. 156 cm 56 kg. Living near Hongdae.

Yeah l think you definitely know more than me man. Only just getting into mongering but l assumed UK was £150 per pop. Will roll the dice on MR and see what happens. Might be best to head out to Thailand or Singapore instead l guess.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2329137]There are far more and far cheaper options in the UK. You have AW, viva street etc. 300k won gets me one pop with a MR escort in Korea, the same amount gets me a slot at the Phoenix club in London, a full on orgy with hot women and unlimited pops.

250 k would get me a full hour with 2 pops on usual with most escorts on AW. If I just want a one pop quickie for 20-30 minutes in the UK, which is what is falsely classified as a full hour here in Korea, I'the be paying something in the region of 90 k won, and that's with escorts on AW. Not to mention massage joints, brothels and other places where the services are much cheaper.

What we're seeing in Korea is providers jacking up rates to silly levels simply because foreigners are shut out of the majority of the local scene, and seem to have no choice but to comply. I've seen instances where new girls start advertising at 120-150 k won, which isn't too bad, and within a few weeks their rate jumps up to exactly the same as what the cartels charge..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2328565]Please can you name all the remaining window girls red light districts left in Seoul? I Know 588 which was big closed down.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that the following RLDs are still open for business in Seoul as of June 2019. The first two are windowed RLDs, whereas Miara is not. Listed prices are what was printed on signs at locations in each of the respective locations for short time (around 20 minutes depending on the location), but YMMV depending on how East Asian you look and how well you speak Korean.

Yeongdeungpo RLD (Yeongdeungpo Station Exit 3) - 90,000 won.

Cheonho RLD (Cheonho Station Exit 3) - 80,000 won.

Miara RLD (Gireum Station Exit 10) - 90,000 won.

Hi,

Some guy posted some BS a few weeks ago about Hooker Hill. VIP is not demolished at all, I was there last week, in fact on Hooker Hill (I only visited the lower half of the hill) no building is demolished at all. How is the current situation at Hooker Hill? When you go out of exit 3 of Itaewon station, you pass the police station, from there till the corner, all buildings are demolished, except the Starbucks building (so on the main street, not on Hooker Hill). I was on HH on a Thursday, a Saturday and a Sunday, each day between 9. 30 and 10.30 pm. Several shops were closed indeed. VIP was open on Thursday and Saturday, each time there were 3 girls present, got a nice session including CIM from a girl that's been working there for years (I don't know her name, but I've met her there years ago), she a bit plumb (but not fat), nice personality, she wanted to put on the condom before starting, but I asked for BBBJ and she agreed, some french kissing is OK, several positions, and as finale a nice CIM. Texas on the main street (where last year the famous Soo-Ae was working) was closed on Thursday and Saturday but open on Sunday, through the glass door I saw a woman sitting, but it wasn't Soo-Ae, the woman inside didn't make any effort to call me in. Unfortunately, VIP was closed on Sunday, but Ambrosia (which was closed on Thursday and Saturday) was open, besides the old woman / boss, there was one girl, face plastic, but thin, several tattoos, nice attitude, some french kissing, BBBJ and several positions. The Hill has lost lots of its former glory, but there are still several shops open, and several deliver good service. By the way, I asked the girl in VIP about the rumors of demolishing the hill, she said there is no indication at all this would happen anytime soon. The shops across VIP and Ambrosia were closed on all 3 days I visited the hill.

[QUOTE=Seoul2012;2329391]Yeah l think you definitely know more than me man. Only just getting into mongering but l assumed UK was 150 per pop. Will roll the dice on MR and see what happens. Might be best to head out to Thailand or Singapore instead l guess.[/QUOTE]Good luck man. That's all I can say LOL.

In the UK, the standard pricing for the 'better escorts' has been £150 for at least a decade. The genuinely good ones would let you have your extra pop during the hour, while the scammers wouldn't. There are also plenty of attractive, good performers in the £100-120 range.

At the very least, if an escort was charging £150 for shit service, word would get out quickly thanks to the coalition of customers known as UKP, and those guys don't play when it comes to getting ripped off. She'the be red-listed and would have to rely on the odd booking, instead of a steady stream of bookings. I learned a lot from those guys as a young and inexperienced hobbyist.

Something like that is sorely needed in Korea, but it is practically impossible due to the transient nature of foreigner stays in the country. Which means scammers and poor performers on MR literally get a clean slate every few days to scam some more.

I used to like MR.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2328399] I've seen a few korean women in Pattaya and Angeles city clubs, partying in a group of guys and local freelancers.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Saw plenty of Korean guys in AC but none with Korean spouses or Korean mistresses. Would loved to have seen Korean wives in AC because I would have hit on them just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off their hubbies.

BTW, have you found any decent Korean food on Walking Street? The two Korean restaurants that others highly touted server poor Korean food.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2329280]New independent on CL. Not going to visit, because it's too steep for me, given that she has to fund her travel (no place of business).

From inquiry, after seeing her ad: [URL]https://seoul.craigslist.org/bts/d/massage/6900548735.html[/URL].

It's relaxing massage with happy encore.

Duration: 45 minutes until 1 hour.

massage ending with HJ 100,000 krw.

massage ending with BJ 125,000 krw.

But I won't do sex.

Yes I'm female, I'm 24 years old girl, student here. 156 cm 56 kg. Living near Hongdae.[/QUOTE]I wish mongers would reply to her and tell her she has Golden Pussy Syndrome, inundate her with texts and promises of showing up and never do so.

[QUOTE=Kimchidick;2330110]Hi,

Some guy posted some BS a few weeks ago about Hooker Hill. VIP is not demolished at all, I was there last week, in fact on Hooker Hill (I only visited the lower half of the hill) no building is demolished at all. How is the current situation at Hooker Hill? When you go out of exit 3 of Itaewon station, you pass the police station, from there till the corner, all buildings are demolished, except the Starbucks building (so on the main street, not on Hooker Hill). I was on HH on a Thursday, a Saturday and a Sunday, each day between 9. 30 and 10.30 pm. Several shops were closed indeed. VIP was open on Thursday and Saturday, each time there were 3 girls present, got a nice session including CIM from a girl that's been working there for years (I don't know her name, but I've met her there years ago), she a bit plumb (but not fat), nice personality, she wanted to put on the condom before starting, but I asked for BBBJ and she agreed, some french kissing is OK, several positions, and as finale a nice CIM. Texas on the main street (where last year the famous Soo-Ae was working) was closed on Thursday and Saturday but open on Sunday, through the glass door I saw a woman sitting, but it wasn't Soo-Ae, the woman inside didn't make any effort to call me in. Unfortunately, VIP was closed on Sunday, but Ambrosia (which was closed on Thursday and Saturday) was open, besides the old woman / boss, there was one girl, face plastic, but thin, several tattoos, nice attitude, some french kissing, BBBJ and several positions. The Hill has lost lots of its former glory, but there are still several shops open, and several deliver good service. By the way, I asked the girl in VIP about the rumors of demolishing the hill, she said there is no indication at all this would happen anytime soon. The shops across VIP and Ambrosia were closed on all 3 days I visited the hill.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. How about the upper part oh the Hill?