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[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1310291]Also, tell the mama you will tip her, say. 500, (the next day!) if the girl works out. Most mamas don't like to not get that tip.[/QUOTE]Hi WC1,
Think this is way up on the high side as 500p is not even something I normally give the girl herself for being a good performer (200p is my norm.).
I usually only give about 100p to the mama + don't forget if you have given her a LD then you have already given her more peso.
Just my POV.
[QUOTE=Smokhee2003;1310021]. And unfortunately I have spent many hours "researching" on ISG! If that means I don't have a "life", sue me![/QUOTE]Spending quality time on ISG "is" the best life there is- aside from being there in person and doing what you already read here.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1309906]Haven't been to QC Ave for a while but I was in near by Timog Sqare in Feb. Cheapest pick up on the street 500p ST. Prices in the area go from 500 to 5-6000 in some of the top KTV joints. Plenty of massage places along QC Ave as well.[/QUOTE]I was in that area in March and area was pretty dead on the streets. Didn't even find that many SW as I went hunting. Only came across about 2-3 but ugly. Went about 8:30pm so don't know if this was a good time or maybe walking around the wrong streets. Notice a few KTV but didn't partake as prices was too high for pick up. Also notice a few massage places but didn't ask for prices as they seem high end.
What streets (names) crossing QC do the SW / FL hang out as this ave is very very long.
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1309891]Its NORMAL for them to come at you in Santos especially that early in the day. They all want to break their duck and you are coming at a time when they just want to serve you as quick as possible and go to the next one hance why the 1hr offer. By letting them bombard you with their crap they probably have you pegged as a newbie. Politely tell them that you want a drink and that then you will chose. Pick who you want talk to her or talk to mamasan and make your enquiries about the girl. Be as open as possible. You know the prices and the time limits so make sure you push for that and except nothing less. You are reading the forum so I hope you are applying the advise given to you. Don't be soft with them Santos they don't respect that, especially not on Santos.
Have fun[/QUOTE]Having read a few post about Santos bars, I can tell all of you that the standard M. O and time limits have gotten stricter the last time I was there. Years ago ST was standard at 3hrs and unlimited shots within the time. Then starting about 1-2 yrs ago, ST was cut to standard 2hrs or if beg or know bar mama / owner well then still allow 3hrs perhaps. But now only "maybe" up to 2 shots if you ask nicely and standard today for a few I picked up were one shot and she leaves. No longer the guarantee 1 shot BJ CIM and another shot FS like days of the past.
Aside from the DIA site, what other sites have any of you guys used in either PI or Thailand that have gotten good results. PM me if you like.
[QUOTE=Sharka; 1310370]Hi WC1,
Think this is way up on the high side as 500p is not even something I normally give the girl herself for being a good performer (200p is my norm.).
I usually only give about 100p to the mama + don't forget if you have given her a LD then you have already given her more peso.
Just my POV.[/QUOTE]The man said he is willing to pay a premium to get what he wants. He doesn't have to tip the girl anything, unless he desires. But if the mama delivers spring-fresh tatas, then RR should follow up with the mama. Paying extra to get something you want isn't that unusual. Telling the mama she gets a cut usually gets her sharp attention. She only gets the tip the following day, assuming the girl does well. Some girls in bars will show flash their tatas anyway (I think some guy got bashed recently for posting a pic in the PG showing faces, and the girl was flashing boob). I've used this techinique before and mentioned it on the board. If you are looking for something unusual, or specific, buying a mama a drink will land you which girls will do what (and which won't) , rather than you having to buy girl after girl a drink trying to find the right one. RR let us know if you have any success.
[I]Are there any places with "guaranteed" higher level girls. At least with perky tits. In AC? I'm willing to pay a premium to save on hassle. [/I]
[QUOTE=Sharka;1310377]Having read a few post about Santos bars, I can tell all of you that the standard M. O and time limits have gotten stricter the last time I was there. Years ago ST was standard at 3hrs and unlimited shots within the time. Then starting about 1-2 yrs ago, ST was cut to standard 2hrs or if beg or know bar mama / owner well then still allow 3hrs perhaps. But now only "maybe" up to 2 shots if you ask nicely and standard today for a few I picked up were one shot and she leaves. No longer the guarantee 1 shot BJ CIM and another shot FS like days of the past.[/QUOTE]Concur. Three years ago a Santos ST was 4 hours, and LT was 8. Two years ago, they all cut it to ST 2 hours, LT either 4 or 8. In the old days, you could get two shots in, easily. You could get a shower and nap between shots. Now, you get one pop. If you do nothing, the girl will start to get dressed as soon as you pop once, and she will leave if you say nothing. If you remind her she has two full hours with you, she will come right back to bed. I was very surprised by the lax attitude of the girls and mamas a few weeks ago when I was there. Never, ever seen anything like it.
Discovered the promised land last night in some of the higher end places. Lot of hot girls in Pasha and Atlantis. Thanks for the recommendations! Took a very, very sexy 19 year old with a trim body out of Atlantis after another hottie in Pasha gave me the "ST only I have baby at home" routine. 3 pops last night, no complaints! She's still here sleeping next to me as I type this. Didn't try to talk to mama for special requests, but will tonight. Finally I can say I had a lot of fun yesterday!
BTW, is this place like Thailand where if you go back to the same bar and take a different girl you're kinda branded as a butterfly and may be subject to lesser service? Cause I saw a girl in Atlantis with an ass that would make me swim across the magma of Mt Pinatubo.
BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.
Infiniti has some hot door girls! Didn't go inside. Didn't find many mentions / reviews of this place so I'll probably hit it up later in the week. After another day or two I should be able to provide a TR with pictures.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1310416]BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.
Infiniti has some hot door girls! Didn't go inside. Didn't find many mentions / reviews of this place so I'll probably hit it up later in the week. After another day or two I should be able to provide a TR with pictures.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are getting the hang od Angeles. Really looking forward to my trip in a few weeks.
While I'm asking so many stupid noob questions, what's up with the credit card options at some of the places I've seen like Typhoon and Cambodia? Are they legit, or is there some risk of double charges and the other kind of bullshit like that? Also do they up the charge? Some mongering spots in Japan and Korea increase the price up to 20% on CC payment. But for me, CC is just so much easier and (potentially) safer, plus, what could beat getting airline miles and cash back on a fucking barfine?
More stupid questions I know. I promise to make a solid trip report at the end of this all, with photos, and will continue to contribute to Japan and Korea threads. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1310445]While I'm asking so many stupid noob questions, what's up with the credit card options at some of the places I've seen like Typhoon and Cambodia? Are they legit, or is there some risk of double charges and the other kind of bullshit like that? Also do they up the charge? Some mongering spots in Japan and Korea increase the price up to 20% on CC payment. But for me, CC is just so much easier and (potentially) safer, plus, what could beat getting airline miles and cash back on a fucking barfine?[/QUOTE]You can, and should, ask how much more is the CC payment. Most places mark up the cost of the product if you use a CC (even gas stations in the US often add a dime to the cost of a gallon of gas for CC) at least a nominal amount (and why not? Visa / MC is going to charge the merchant 1-2% of the cost of the purchase). They will gladly tell you before the purchase. Also your foreign (ie, american) CC will hit you with about a 3% FTF (Foreign Transaction Fee) for each purchase.
[quote]You can, and should, ask how much more is the CC payment. Most places mark up the cost of the product if you use a CC (even gas stations in the US often add a dime to the cost of a gallon of gas for CC) at least a nominal amount (and why not? Visa / MC is going to charge the merchant 1-2% of the cost of the purchase). They will gladly tell you before the purchase. Also your foreign (ie, american) CC will hit you with about a 3% FTF (Foreign Transaction Fee) for each purchase.[/quote]Actually, it's long been forbidden by networks like Cirrus to mark up prices when paying with credit in a lot of the world, including much of America, because it discourages people from using CCs. The same goes with "minimum purchases" that you see in a lot of small stores. That'll all change real soon though as some changes are coming this year that will again allow them to mark up as you suggest. Of course it's long been the norm in "adult places" and bars, especially in Asia, because it's much more difficult to audit. I know this because I used to work in the industry.
None of my cards charge FTFs thankfully, though they do fuck you up on foreign cash advances (more than normal even, you always get fucked on CAs).
More than mark up (unless it's something stupid like the 20% some Japanese places charge) , I'm worried about double charges, skimming, etc. That's much harder to deal with. I would have to be tied up in those kinds of battles for weeks, unable to use my cards in the meantime.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1310416]BTW, looked for Carousel last night to no avail. Can't find it on any maps that I have either. Where is this place? Very possible that I just missed it.[/QUOTE]It's on Fields, and on the same side of the road as Doll's House. It's between Doll's House and the entrance to Fields