FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Danny227;2220195]Because people lie to make a point. They don't know a girl or visit a club once in a blue moon and provide bad reputation or false information. False information is why I write what I write. Is that not the reason we are writing here? To review and provide fellow poster correct information?

[blue]Do that but in a better way. Not offending others.

A3[/blue][/QUOTE]I believe in being blunt. False posters are the worst, but I don't want to have this discussion anymore. It is what it is.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2219355]170 for the hour.[/QUOTE]That's a good price to a great time in a one hour session at Artemis. Some girls don't room for 50, but for 150, the give heavenly service. The alternative is privates where girls charge 150-200 an hour. At least here, we can talk and choose. Paid double this in Globe last month, but can't beat the service at Globe. Worth every penny.

[QUOTE=LouieDePalma;2219805]"Now I have heard about Artemis lately, and she did promise to provide a great time for 100 Euros 30 minutes, I gave in stupidly and then she did the Amsterdam RLD, you are not hard enough trick after doing the best to kill my mood. So that is quite a lot of cheating. After her promise, when I stupidly went with the flow, she started with no kissing, not even on the cheek and then no doggy style I have to make sure you are hard and so on. ".

Interesting review. I will be frequenting the Berlin scene on a very regular basis over many years to come. So, if this is the status of Artemis now, I will certainly avoid this place, even though I loved it back in 2007 and the following years. If management is hell-bent on destroying their own business, nobody can save them. I'll try Kaufmich or whatever escort agency is around.[/QUOTE]The Hell Angels are managing the club, and they have other problems today that Artemis.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2219709] For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. .[/QUOTE]Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).

Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]There are some ladies that are booked for hours for some clients. Usually they are very beautiful and have this diva attitude drinking only champagne etc. I met one of these ladies in Palace. She was booked for 8-9 hours to a company of 2-3 men, every 2-3 hours one was fucking her for maybe 20 minutes and all other time was spent in the bar drinking and pretending they are having a 'fun party' time. So yes I guess they also sell a bar GFE experience to customers but not all of them, it depends to the girl.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune!

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Okay, fine, I'll spend 200 euros for 1. 5 hours. But are we going to spend these 1. 5 hours in the room? Certainly I won't do that. I've seen a number of clients enjoy their lady for like 30 minutes before going to the room, then go to the room for another 30 minutes, have a shot or two, then spend another 30 minutes enjoying her in the bar. I'm not sure what kind of service this is. Is it the GF experience? What should I exactly tell the lady if this is what I want? (enjoying the 1. 5 hours around Artemis with her, not just in the room. Maybe in the kino and on the bar too).

Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]It depends what you like in the room. Not all people take only 15 minutes. But, I can tell you that a 1.5 hour session involve maximum wasted 10 minutes for toilet or a cigarette break. The act of service that is not limited to netto sex (also no massage), take up most of the session. That said, you still need to do your DD with the girl, but very high chances at this rate for top service. The only thing is, one must like the Artemis type girls, less natural 18-22. Some people only need half an hour, in that case Artemis is difficult for them and it is really not the best club for them to go to. A good half an hour service starts at 100 and you still need to search good to find a trustworthy girl. I ask the same normally the opposite question, whatvcan a person do in half an hour? It is over before it begins.

[QUOTE=Canary;2220797]I wish "the sex part" only took me 15 minutes, I would save a bloody fortune![/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with that statement. But, I still like it when it take so long, I just wish that maybe half the tines will take me less and I will also save a fortune.

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2220732]Afterall, the sex part doesn't take more than 15 minutes all together. So exactly how will this 1. 5 hour be spent? How can the client utilize it the most?[/QUOTE]All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1702812.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2220954]All this "must have long session" is just silly. Was explained long time back, and still applies (as of 6 days ago - testing brand new sexy upstairs bar):

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1702812&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1702812.[/QUOTE]Scroll to Post 7576,4 April 2015 "30 Min GFE".

Glad to notice you're still alive, Nooky Ninja. - By the way: Didn't spot Vegas at our Big A for a long, long time.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2219709]For 200, 1.5 hours, I get outstanding service at Artemis and no unnecessary extras are charged. Artemis is a great club for certain type of clients. [/QUOTE]For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222083]For that deal you can get good service at almost any Club with almost every girl.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear a different perspective. I still aim for excellent service for a rate of under 50 per 30 minutes (or 60 were I to go to Artemis). :)

Thank you Danny 227 for explaining so clearly why I have not visited Artemis recently: 100 for 30 minutes to get decent service is not for me. Whilst I willingly pay several 100 to a girl it is not when 100 for 30 is the starting point

Cheers

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222083]For that deal you can get good service at almost an Club with almost every girl.[/QUOTE]I agree with RN and this is one of the many reasons I am not going to visit Artemis again in my life. I can get much better service with even less with pretty girls in Palace or Mainhattan which have also cheaper entrance and better facilities besides the girls.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1702812]Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...

there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.

You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros. You need to develop a sense of this, and avoid. But most are friendly, and also want to have a pleasant time; they do not have rules about what they will feel in 30 min vs 1 hours. You just have to tune in to what makes them tick, and somehow create a mood that you are not just another stupid tourist with a cock. And reality being what it is, sometimes a girl will simply not find you sufficiently attractive to kiss or let you lick her or whatever. It has nothing to do with "service" (itself a highly subjective concept); it just happens, and even lots more Euros won't change it. So you just roll with it, and decide if knowing this, you still want to carry on. RB would not, but many are happy enough with an optifick so that's fine for them. Common sense, really.

It does take a little practice, but really not so much as just take the time up front to talk, do a little light touching, and get things in synch, basically seducing each other, vs just grabbing an item off the shelf in a supermarket.

I have been surprised many times with real passion, even with girls who have a kind of cool, distant, tough, even intimidating personna, like Vegas, Lena, Sariah, or Lea or even some of the late Team Abdul gang. You can have a roaring good time for 30 min if you just slow it down, get things right at the beginning, and with a little talking up front before you head off, the 30 min is actually 45 or so. Just toward the closing of the deal, be clear what you want if there are deal breakers, and don't zimmer if the vibe is dubious. The good times are easy if you make the girl feel comfortable, and it's not that difficult.[/QUOTE]Wow! One of the best advice post I have ever seen. I personally already try to do the same, but this post really reminded me why I was failing some recently. Great suggestions well written. Thanks Nooky Ninja for referring to this old post.