FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Jolokia;2232048]No constructions yet from my visit last week. Entry still 75. Front desk lady saying it may start? Next month. A few nice stunner girls, excellent food with nice selection of many fresh fruits (no flies all over food like Oase), facilities seemed very clean. Just not appearing to be very busy. And same filthy stained yellow wrist keys.[/QUOTE]I confirm for really good foods, with melon, and more attractive woman type looks than in other Hessen clubs.

No works, no discount.

A club for the night, slow in afternoon.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2228430]I've been going to FKK's for 15 years but the last time I visited was just before they passed the new law.

I just want to know what's going on and if the girls are enforcing it or asking for extra to give a BBBJ?

I have some regulars that will know me at Palace so I could probably get a BBBJ from them, but not sure about the others.[/QUOTE]Girls can work for CIM extra for 50. Many girls prefer to get CIM than kissing which is more intimate for them. Smart girls kiss to make illusion, stupid girls say: I don't sell love.

This is simply my observation based on what I read (and see as a trend) on this and the famous German board, as I didn't get a chance to get out of the sex prison for last 4-5 months. Any comments / suggestions from first hand experience will be helpful (at least to me in my next trip).

Only few weeks back we were reading that many sharky girls in Sharks are / were "asking" for higher (double of triple) than the "standard" rates and they would not budge to the standard rates. Now (for last 1-2 weeks) we read that some of those sharky girls left Sharks because most guys asking for 50 e /30 minutes sessions with the "standard" rates (or most customers asking for only 50 e /30 m sessions) and moved to Mainhattan and Palace to continue their sharky practice. One important (to my observation) differentiator happened in between was that we discussed the "standard" rates on the Sharks thread to it's death LOL.

So, could it be that the discussion of "standard" rates on the Sharks thread actually made some effect for many of the Tourists (and for some of us here)? Think of these:

1) Most Tourists are English speakers, readers and writers.

2) In today's world, most Tourists tend to do some research on the internet before visiting a new place of interest.

3) This ISG board comes in Google and all other search engines pretty quickly when you try to search for mongering options in Germany or Europe (that's how I found ISG decades back LOL). More so if you know FKK names like Sharks, Oase, Mainhatan, Palace, World etc.

So hoping that our "standard" rates discussion did have some (even if only 50% or less) effect on maintaining the "standard" rates at Sharks and "maybe", just maybe it will again have some impact in Mainhattan, Palace etc FKKs, here I will repeat the "standard" rates any monger should stick to IMHO. After all it is always a buyers market like in any business. These girls (even the most beautiful girl in any FKK) need our 50 e more than we need the BBBJ or DFK or whatever else they are trying to scam you as extras.

Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.

I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL. And she also enjoyed the activities, besides making what she wanted to make.

Hope this helps some of my fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=Jbalvin;2226735]Current offer of the moment of the works take place until the month of November (reconstruction of the bar and the living room) the daily ticket is currently available for only 50 euros instead of 75 euros.[/QUOTE]No confirmation of this so far.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2232383]No confirmation of this so far.[/QUOTE]Entry 75 on last Saturday. No information about discount on desk.

Goods foods and really beautiful rooms which increase pleasure when You are with a beauty.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2232383]No confirmation of this so far.[/QUOTE]I asked front lady for 50, she said no it's 75 until construction start. So I pay 75.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2232361]50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. [/QUOTE]I have never had such luck getting all these for just 50 e.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2232179]A club for the night, slow in afternoon.[/QUOTE]There is a huge difference between day and night, it is really slow and with very few girls before 6 pm.

Also I confirm the food is always nice, never been disappointed.

Now should I go Palace or Mainhattan here is the dilemma.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2232361]Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for reminding us all of the correct rates. I wish this could be a sticky note on top of every FKK thread on ISG.

I was particularly happy about your last sentence that "that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is". This is exactly my experience and an important note to every firsttimer to FKK Clubs. There are some frequent posters lately claiming that you "need to" pay double price to get good performance from the hottest girls. This is utterly BS. First of all, if there is any correlation at all you will find more scammers among the least attractive girls. And there are plenty of the hottest girls that give great service at a standard rate. The best girls simply do not need to BS you. If a girl, pretty or not, is trying some BS, just be patient and find someone hotter than her.

Some girls will not kiss. Some will not permit FIV. Some will only provide CBJ. We have to respect that (and say politely "no thank you" and move on to a better performer). What we should not respect is that services as DFK or FIV (or BBBJ) only come with an extra fee. That's a scam and such girls should be avoided at all costs.

The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience in the clubs. It's as simple as that. Your choice.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2232361]This is simply my observation based on what I read (and see as a trend) on this and the famous German board, as I didn't get a chance to get out of the sex prison for last 4-5 months. Any comments / suggestions from first hand experience will be helpful (at least to me in my next trip).

Only few weeks back we were reading that many sharky girls in Sharks are / were "asking" for higher (double of triple) than the "standard" rates and they would not budge to the standard rates. Now (for last 1-2 weeks) we read that some of those sharky girls left Sharks because most guys asking for 50 e /30 minutes sessions with the "standard" rates (or most customers asking for only 50 e /30 m sessions) and moved to Mainhattan and Palace to continue their sharky practice. One important (to my observation) differentiator happened in between was that we discussed the "standard" rates on the Sharks thread to it's death LOL.

So, could it be that the discussion of "standard" rates on the Sharks thread actually made some effect for many of the Tourists (and for some of us here)? Think of these:

1) Most Tourists are English speakers, readers and writers.

2) In today's world, most Tourists tend to do some research on the internet before visiting a new place of interest.

3) This ISG board comes in Google and all other search engines pretty quickly when you try to search for mongering options in Germany or Europe (that's how I found ISG decades back LOL). More so if you know FKK names like Sharks, Oase, Mainhatan, Palace, World etc.

So hoping that our "standard" rates discussion did have some (even if only 50% or less) effect on maintaining the "standard" rates at Sharks and "maybe", just maybe it will again have some impact in Mainhattan, Palace etc FKKs, here I will repeat the "standard" rates any monger should stick to IMHO. After all it is always a buyers market like in any business. These girls (even the most beautiful girl in any FKK) need our 50 e more than we need the BBBJ or DFK or whatever else they are trying to scam you as extras.

Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.

I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL. And she also enjoyed the activities, besides making what she wanted to make.

Hope this helps some of my fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]50 euros for 30 minutes including BBBJ if you are a regular customer? I think many mongers on this forum will laugh, more or less impossible to get in Shark from the top girls.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2232439]T

Some girls will not kiss. Some will not permit FIV. Some will only provide CBJ. We have to respect that (and say politely "no thank you" and move on to a better performer). What we should not respect is that services as DFK or FIV (or BBBJ) only come with an extra fee. That's a scam and such girls should be avoided at all costs.

The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience in the clubs. It's as simple as that. Your choice.[/QUOTE]I hope you are right but from my experience I find it very difficult, not to say impossible, to find a girl that will let us put a finger in her vagina and lick her pussy just for 50 e including also fucking of course and BBBJ and DFK. I feel like I will keep on moving to find a better performer which will never be there. All the girls I have met ask for an extra fee for DATY (which I want always).

[QUOTE=Jolokia;2232405]I asked front lady for 50, she said no it's 75 until construction start. So I pay 75.[/QUOTE]I just found this, don't speak German but I think it says that works and cheaper entry fee start from October 15th.

[URL]https://www.fkk24.de/the-palace/aktionen/umbauarbeiten-ab-1510-tageskarte-bis-november-fuer-nur-50-euro-erhaeltlich[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shark16;2232439]And there are plenty of the hottest girls that give great service at a standard rate.[/QUOTE]Standard rate is ambiguous. If three customers were to pay the following: 50 EUR per 30 min. 100 EUR per 60 minute. 600 EUR per 6 hours.

All three customers would have paid "standard rates". Nobody tipped or paid more than market rate. But in most cases, the guy paying 600 EUR per 6 hours would be the most desirable.

Would you feel comfortable rephrasing your original statement to "there are plenty of the hottest girls that give great service for 50 EUR 30 min"?

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2232417]There is a huge difference between day and night, it is really slow and with very few girls before 6 pm.

Also I confirm the food is always nice, never been disappointed.

Now should I go Palace or Mainhattan here is the dilemma.[/QUOTE]Palace is far higher level for me, also than Oase and Sharks at the moment. At least, at Palace, You can see beautiful women, not GND little girls.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2232439]Thanks a lot for reminding us all of the correct rates. I wish this could be a sticky note on top of every FKK thread on ISG.

I was particularly happy about your last sentence that "that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is". This is exactly my experience and an important note to every firsttimer to FKK Clubs. There are some frequent posters lately claiming that you "need to" pay double price to get good performance from the hottest girls. This is utterly BS. First of all, if there is any correlation at all you will find more scammers among the least attractive girls. And there are plenty of the hottest girls that give great service at a standard rate. The best girls simply do not need to BS you. If a girl, pretty or not, is trying some BS, just be patient and find someone hotter than her.

Some girls will not kiss. Some will not permit FIV. Some will only provide CBJ. We have to respect that (and say politely "no thank you" and move on to a better performer). What we should not respect is that services as DFK or FIV (or BBBJ) only come with an extra fee. That's a scam and such girls should be avoided at all costs.

The more pushover you are, the more upselling you will experience in the clubs. It's as simple as that. Your choice.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words Shark16. Hope that eventually all these scamming goes away and everyone (including the girls) is happy.