FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Danny227;2237917]The club is absolutely a rip off. But for 170 an hour, which is not cheap, I get good service. This isn't easy.[/QUOTE]Artemis now can be total rip off club if full GFE service including DFK, DATY, condom fuck passionately is not offered for such up sell prices of around 100 euro. Also 30 min should be 30 min, not 20 min.

As for Globe, it is reasonable rate considering they do give you promised passionate service and 30 min is 30 min without any deception or cheat or annoying negotiation.

If it is 100 euro 30 min and Artemis give same service as globe Zurich then it is fine, and if it is 30 min is 30 min.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238100]There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?[/QUOTE]There are actually two: One Blonde named Anja, she can pass for German when talking but has a Ukrainian face IMO. And, Katya with the bangs (I actually forgot about her for a second). Both sit together, both worked in GT before, both should be good service. Normally sitting on the bar in the main side and on the last two chairs before the bar curves right.

It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238100]There was one petite brunette (below 1.55 probably) who claimed for a long time she was Ukrainian, but I figured out she indeed also were Romanian. Who is this real Ukrainian then?[/QUOTE]

Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;2238320]It's been a couple years since I saw her but I asked recently on here about the girl. She has dark hair, bangs, is tall (taller than the Romanian with bangs girl). She holds hands with another girl and walks around. Easy going. I was told she is there still. Hopefully that is the case.[/QUOTE]So many other girls around the best is not to concentrate on one.

What did the 2 local racist Turkish Germans do?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]The club is owned by the HA or so, most of the girls are veteran and in relation with the gang members so they reduce the competition by refusing top sexy new girls, on top of that they face the same issues than everywhere in Europe, less new girls need to be prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2238381]Problem at Artemis seems to be lack of options. New recruitment fell through the floor 2-3 years ago. Perhaps the competition at large from other FKK clubs throughout Europe was a main reason for it.

5 years ago, many girls told me Artemis was the club they made the most money in in all of Europe. I don't know if this is still the case. I doubt it. And as long as they can't get the best lineup any longer, spending won't increase.

Plus a few new bad apples ruining it like the 2 local racist Turkish Germans I tried. Horrible experience. One was an optic though.[/QUOTE]You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2238623]You had a bad experience. That happens. Artemis has some pretty good girls and new girls keep coming. And after Globe, this is the club women make the most money in. The issue is; 110 euro for half an hour (BJ considerations); a good hour should be 170 and it is not guaranteed. It depends on the girl you choose. So, My feelings is to leave Artemis for the visitors and stay home. This is getting disproportionately expensive.[/QUOTE]How many shares have you from Artemis or I can t understand how you can support this club just have a look on the German forums, the reports are getting worse and worse which I was thinking is not possible knowing how bad the club is for 3 years at least. Now if you like it don t hesitate go and spend your money.

It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min"..[/QUOTE]Girls are independent, but must adhere to house rules. You should ask for the manager at the reception. Management will treat you better than the receptionist. But, all in all, you paid her 60 and not 110, so you didn't chicken out. Only when you take her to the manager and say what was the original agreement, this can be a lesson for her. But you also had a bad pick. For 110 30 min you should be fine. That's still expensive to my taste.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes.[/QUOTE]I would have just fucked her for 30 min and paid standard price of 60 euro.

When upsell become rip off, one should pay original price but finish the 30 min session and pay 60 euro house price, after that it is all she said he said.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes..[/QUOTE]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340]It is probably a year ago since I was at Artemis last time. After reading the Artemis thread I wasn't sure I would go there, but being in Berlin I gave it a try Sunday evening. I arrived at ca. 6 pm and my first thought was "This is slow and quiet". However, for me an evening can be good even with few girls around. I relaxed in the sauna for a while, then had something to eat (and I really mean "something") and then sat down in the lounge and looking around. First two Romanians approached me, Claudia and J (she said "J" only). Typically Romanian looks, but Claudia claims to be Polish and J said she was from the middle-East. Interesting to see how the "middle-East" J had to translate English for the "Polish" Claudia in Romanian. Then a couple of other girls approached me, but I still said I needed to relax. At the end of the day I most probably should have taken one of these opportunities. Then Sasha approached me. Tall, blond, natural see cups, sits at the sofa to the right of the main entrance to the lounge. She was quite hones to say 60 e for 30 minutes and 50 E for extra service. I was tempted and went for 110 E for 30 min, as you have said on this thread is the normal in Artemis nowadays. On our way up the stairs she went quickly in front of me and didn't pay any attention to me- first warning. Then I became skeptic. Up on the first floor I said to her I would take a shower, but she said "Why? I lick you clean" - second warning. A girl who doesn't care much about a guys personal hygiene and his slightly sweat odour might not want much body contact. In the room she started immediately to ask about CIF, CIM etc and I reminded her about what we agreed downstairs "30 min, 110 E". Then she started with a CBJ. "Hey, what's this? What have I paid 50 E extra for? Then she replied "If you want BBBJ it is additional 50 E extra and a total of 160 E for 30 min". Jeezes. What my original 50 E extra should cover she never told me. We did some 69 which was OK for a few minutes, then DATY in normal position where she squeezed her thights against my chins and more or less wanted me to lick her stomach and not her pussy. At this stage I stopped, said to her this is a total rip-off and my momentum was totally gone. We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that Artemis remains in the top position for the cheating clubs that obviously I will never visit again.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2239686]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.[/QUOTE]I think it's the overall situation in Berlin. The last couple of times I've been there have been very negative. The rude WG's are all over town. Don't know if it's something in the water or what it is, but Berlin is no fun anymore. My last trip to Germany went to Frankfurt. Won't go back to Berlin.