FKK Artemis - Berlin

I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url]. I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2236629]I don't know who that bartender girl is actually. Anyone seen Geraldine Hungarian or Coco Albanian lately?[/QUOTE]Is she still working at the Artemis?

[QUOTE=RichMan1;2240086]Is she still working at the Artemis?[/QUOTE]That was my question LOL. Have you seen Geraldine from Hungary recently at Artemis? She was one of the best provider in room.

Very interesting post!

So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2239340] We left the room after ca. 15 min, I paid her 60 E and that was the end of the evening. I should have taken the warning signals, I should have chose someone else, but I didn't. So all my skepticism about the club came true. I have had many good moments in the club before; now it was totally different. When I left at 10 pm I told the house lady about the bad experience. Her reply was more like "the girls are independent". Next time I'm in Berlin I'll do something else.[/QUOTE]

Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.

Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).

Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the €160, but I would skip kissing next time.

Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.

Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard €110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker.

I took a three hour break and a nap. I came back around 10, armed with a small dose of VitaminV. (You can leave and return same day). My first go was again a mistake, but not as huge. I can't recall her name, but an exceptionally tall blond with deep brown eyes and pouty lips. There were a couple warning signs that I blew I right past and the experience was pretty much OK. Kissing was lame again, but she did offer DATY as part of the kissing bundle. Altogether pleasant enough but pretty transactional. Finished by hand, while she moved sexily in doggie position giving a good view of her pussy. Very helpful. LOL.

Last girl was a solid win, but could have been an upsell disaster in the wrong hands. I had just finished with my Russian girl so it was too early. This really pretty Romanian in a red fishnet top caught my eye and latched on pretty hard (in a good way). Her name was Karina and she was undeterred when I said I just got back from a session. Just chose to hang out with me and cuddle and drape herself all over me until 20 or so minutes later we agreed to a room.

Again it was important as others noted that we agreed up front. We decided on an hour (it being my fifth go in 8 hours) and €220 for kissing and the usual other extra. This was overall a really nice experience. Early she tried to upsell me to the prostate massage and even tried to shame me a bit when I declined -- which about got her the boot -- but I told her no upselling. Only what we agreed. That must have gotten her attention because a minute later she said "69?" and I said, only if it's not extra and she said "no darling that is included of course" Anyhow, after this rough spot it was as close to GFE as Artemis gets I think. She wasn't very good at tongue kissing, but the kisses were sweet and felt passionate, not forced. We did a whole lotta stuff in that hour, with help from VitaminV and a very strong finish. All in all a really good hour, after the initial miscues.

I would repeat with Salome, Tatiana, and Karina- avoid the other two.

Tomorrow I'll summarize a few Artemis tips, plus report on my aborted Paris No 5 visit and my super nice Angentur Liberty visit.

Steve 9696.

Nice report Steve. Artemis has clearly evolved to a proper ripoff place nowadays. I have had hundreds of sessions at Artemis the last ten years, normally very good sessions including DFK & BBBJ but the apparent price structure is just crazy and it just doesn't make sense to frequently visit anymore. I will be in Berlin in four weeks time for leisure and will probably visit then as well, but after that visit I can't see any reason to visit Berlin in the near future as it feels as Artemis is dead as we know it.

No reason to pay 80€ entrance when proper sex is overpriced, if you don't mind covered BJ and bad attitude then you are OK. I for one will rather spend my euros in Spain where you get an hour for 100€ everything included from a Latin girl which I prefer over the Romanians in FKK-land, just sad that FKK's don't exist in Spain, why don't they anyway? Just not the same to visit apartments when you are used to facilities such as Artemis. But the sun and the prices in Spain makes it my preferred destination.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2242181]Short story: There is no question that the majority of Artemis girls are sharks and the overall girlfriend vibe is lacking. If you only have one or two shots, you are rolling the dice. If you are there for longer than that, you can have at least one good experience. Not great. But solid.

Rolled in to Artemis about 4 PM on a Sunday. Maybe 15-20 girls and at least that many guys and growing by the minute. I had a thirties-ish Brazilian girl court me for a bit. Wanted 130 for the usual extras. A little thick around the middle and clearly older so I said I was hanging for a bit. Several other non-starters (remember for me any thing but brown eyes is the kiss of death).

Eventually hooked up with Salome. Clearly about 10 x better on the optics than most of the girls there. Given my aesthetic. Nice heart shaped face, huge brown eyes, and a full set of lips. Her tits are clearly DD+ all natural. She was not backing down off 160 for kissing and the usual extra for a half hour. I caved and said lets go. On balance a very fine experience. Some upsell that I quickly squashed. No real illusion of BFGF and the kissing was distinctly lame. But the BJ and the mish and the doggie were all mighty fine. I am a bit girthy and some girls are too tight to get a good slip and slide going, but she was just right. Had a super nice bare back tittle fuck to finish. Was actually worth the 160, but I would skip kissing next time.

Second girl was a mistake. Nikki from Hungary. Been at it for 12 years. Thought that might be good for a pro- level BJ but was wrong. Won't even recount this disaster, except to say she is beyond thick and he BJ is 90% HJ. Avoid.

Tatiana saved the day. She is a tight little brunette Romanian with bangs. I'd seen here around and she didn't do it for me, but when I walked past her in better light I was like whoa, beautiful eyes. And the more I chatted her up, the more she appealed. Given my prior lame kissing I decided to skip that and got the standard 110 offer. And this girl was true to her word and a trooper. No in room upsell. We did several positions, but she really had to work the BJ for a long time -- no hands, unlike my Hungarian girl, and brought a spectacular finish. I tipped her 20 because she was an awesome hard worker..[/QUOTE]Viagra to fuck a prostitute? Sorry if you can t means better you save your money, you overpaid all the girls, you got quantity but not quality at least for me, Artemis is a nightmare for most of the senior mongers.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2241196]Very interesting post!

So you agreed to 110 E. But then essentially only paid 60 E, because of your dissatisfaction with the service, right? And the WG was not climbing on the barricades and screaming at you? Instead she simply took the 60 E. Which was a decent per-min price of 4 E per min,.[/QUOTE]I would have banged her hardcore for good 30 min from back position and cut the session at 30 min due to bad service and pay her 60 euro for 30 min.

I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.

So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.

More tonight after visit #2.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2242424]I should note that I've been almost everywhere worldwide and to Oase, World, and Sharks. So my view is pretty jaded. If you have never been to FKK before it will be awesome. And the facilities are top notch. I'the say the "fit and finish" of Artemis is top notch.

So much about life is about expectations. Go in with high expectations and you will be disappointed by the sharkiness and service level. Go in not expecting much and some girl is sure to surprise you in a positive way.[/QUOTE]Even with your experience, you go on slowest, weakest lineup days of the week Sun-Tues? "Chill" aspect of slow days has its charms, but lineup much better Thurs-Sat. Before 2300 not crowded. Not fair to generalize from slow days. Sometimes more hardened, more money pressured girls work slower days (sometime not...). But in general choices better on power days. All FKKs basically the same, some up some down, girls move around. Easy to blame venue. But many factors under your control:

"Game" (how to make girl relax not feel like steak, and so you not just tourist with cock and euros),
"Choice" ( how to get everything clear up front before heading to room or walking away if vibe not right)
& "Chemistry" (must feel some minimal mutual attraction-from girl, take time to sense it or not)

All big suc(k)cess factors.

You seem like decent guy so should be able to find some good times. Before wizened souls come back with usual negatives, remember; like life, some people find way to enjoy, some don't.

Totally agree with you Nooky and Steve.

For a newbie the Artemis experience would probably still be very exciting and mind blowing, I can still remember my first visit in 2009 I felt like a kid in a candy store LOL.

I agree that your expectations sometimes can be to high especially when you have been there so many times before, because you expect it to be as before but it will probably never be like that again. The disappointing part with Artemis is when you compare it with other FKK's in many of those clubs the girls give good service if you choose to stay 1 hour or longer, but in Artemis it seems that many girls wants additional charge for everything, even DATY with a few girls that I talked to! It fast becomes extremely expensive if you want good service, if you are ok with covered BJ I can almost guarantee you that many girls will try to upsell you in the room which at least for me becomes very stressful and takes away the fun and momentum of the session, when that happens I most times abort and cut short.

As said if you are a first time visitor or not care about the amount of money you spend you will probably have a very good time at Artemis, I know I had at least.

Just as Nooky mentioned it can't be echoed to many times, do the Q&A and try to get to 'know' the girl before you agree rooming with her and don't be afraid to walk away if it doesn't feel right, trust your gut feel. Treat the girls respectfully and agree on everything before your session and you will be OK. Remember to have control of your wallet just because the girls want a certain amount of money doesn't mean you can't make them a counteroffer and stand your ground, after all they want your money!

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2239686]I am sorry but you should trust the recent reviews. I went in July and it really sucked. Very bad service from the girls, a lot of upsetting, rude attitude. Regarding the service and the look from the WG I think it's not even in the top 15 FKK clubs in Germany. Next time in Berlin go to an erotic massage studio, it will be much better.[/QUOTE]What a bad luck that we didn't met each other, I bet it would have been unforgettable. I was also in Artemis in July but not the whole July. Did you saw the ugly guy wearing a Bordeaux robe, it was me.

My performance in room wasn't optimal as always, but I kept on improving. At least that's what the girls said, of course all the girls and I pay just basic rate for compliments.

I didn't notice any unfriendly hookers beside the usual kidding, fun making and middle finger raising. Playground reality but far from being "Dracu".

My visit didn't sucked. And since it is written now on ISG (if this post is passing censorship) everybody has to believe it. No choice I am sorry.

But I promise not to search for the passwords of my other never used nicknames to confirm multiple times that also "other" guys are alright with Artemis.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2240049]I visited Artemis last Thursday. It was too cool to use the outdoor pool, so I satisfied my self with the indoor pool. When I got into the main bar lounge I thought there was plenty of girls with good figures, enough for me to be interested in. The last two visits were OK, but today it felt like my first few visits to Artemis. I alternated between the lower Kino and watching the action at the main bar. When I was in the Kino I was approached by Alessandra from Spain. We soon retired to the room at the back of the Kino. The action was short, and sharp and intense. This was a repetition with this girl because I had the same kind of session on a previous visit. I wanted to have another session before grabbing a bite at 18.00 hrs. Sometime after 17.00 hrs I met Mandy from Berlin. I had a good session with her on a previous visit, and she remembered me, so I went with her again. Another good session ensued. It would appear that if you get to know some of the girls you can get better service and a good session need not be longer than 30 minutes. Both sessions were for 60 euro. Mandy supplied information that she does not turn up till 17.00 hrs and that there is a room in Artemis for (CodeWord118). I did not know this before. I spent nearly 6 hours there. Artemis is still a good place for picking up girls.[/QUOTE]Nice report Warmstone. I had one room with Alessandra about three years ago. She is friendly.

Sure NN, I would choose different days if I could, but business travel dictates the schedule. That said, fair point to not judge too harshly based on a single day. And in fact, tonight was Artemis redemption night. (bearing in mind it was good the other night, but had some of the sharkiness other's have noted). Went around 11 PM and stayed till four (Tuesday night).

Wasn't there more than 10 minutes before Salome found me. God, that girl is good looking. And on balance I had a really nice time with her on Sunday, brief though it was. I forgot to mention she is a real pro at what she does and as my first visit after a week of abstinence, on Sunday, she literally had me ready to come in 5 minutes. She was actually pretty understanding and took direction to stave that off, but still had me blowing at the 15 minute mark.

Tonight, she wiggled up to me at the bar and we kinda just body to body rubbed a bit and I was ready for a room. This being my 7th session in 3 days, it was not like the first one. I told her no kissing, so it was only going to be 110 but she upsold me in the room on cum in tittle fuck and go nice and slow. Still we only took twentyish minutes for the actual deed. She gives a great BJ, has a wonderful feeling pussy, is super sexy and accommodating and has an unmatched tittle fuck finish. Very happy to spend 160 for her quality.

Took a short nap and had a massage, which was quite good. Not long after re-entering the bar area, my other girl from Sunday, Karina found me. God, she is cute too. It was a little early for another room, but she convinced me. We went for a 160 half including kissing, which again was sexy if not top notch. In the room it was really comfortable. She tried to sell me the prostate thing again, but not very hard. In general good BJ and nice sex in a few positions tho for some reason her pussy doesn't feel as nice as Salomes. The funny part of this experience was I was terribly hard to finish. At one point nearing the time limit I went to take things in my own hands and she said "No! I will keel you!" And she meant it, swatting my hands away. Even five minutes later I was ready to call it, but she persisted -- "here, touch my pussy" etc while she kept on. She ran a serious 10-15 minutes over the half hour and got it done! Now that is a gal for me!

She said no more sex for me, and that was the plan. I went downstairs and was just going to hang out. Way in the back there is a seating area and stage. It was 215 by now and the girls had a couple of bottles of champagne and probably 15 of them were putting on a dance party. Honestly it was so much fun to watch these girls having such a great time. All of them pretty much naked and dancing up a storm and really truly joyful. I watched for probably 45 minutes and was just struck by the spirit of the whole thing. It was awesome.

I have to admit all this sexy tit shaking got me turned on, but I was pretty sure one girl would not be able to finish the deed at this point. I ran into a smoking hot Bulgarian girl. Just the slimmest frame and lovely well done lips. I told her I didn't really want to pay for kissing because of my bad experiences and she said she could change my mind. She melted my mind with her sexiness, but also offered kissing for 20. So that sealed the deal. So 130 was the plan. We had her friend join who was a bit more milfy, but not unattractive. She was also 130. Had a really solid time with these two. I guess the 20 doesn't get you DATY or much FIV, which seemed to be included in other girls 50 for kissing add on. But that was ok. Having two girls we were pretty busy kissing (both were good!) and getting BJ.

They did go for the CIM upsell and it being two of them would be 100. Which I declined. The "mom" was smart enough to then back it off to just the young girls mouth at 50 and I took the offer. It was really sort of amusing to, watch the interaction. Mom did a bit of BJ coaching with her young charge and this was sort of sexy. She also did dirty talk in my ear like "fill her mouth with you cum". (good English!) and boy that girl was a trooper. Kept at it strong and with a bit of manual assist, our little trio accomplished the impossible 9th shot.

Really I have to say I really enjoyed tonight. Having two go-to girls helped a lot and I got lucky on the duo. And the vibe and scene with the dancing was just great. Really nice time at Artemis tonight!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2242716]Sure NN, I would choose different days if I could, but business travel dictates the schedule. That said, fair point to not judge too harshly based on a single day. And in fact, tonight was Artemis redemption night. (bearing in mind it was good the other night, but had some of the sharkiness other's have noted). Went around 11 PM and stayed till four (Tuesday night).

Wasn't there more than 10 minutes before Salome found me. God, that girl is good looking. And on balance I had a really nice time with her on Sunday, brief though it was. I forgot to mention she is a real pro at what she does and as my first visit after a week of abstinence, on Sunday, she literally had me ready to come in 5 minutes. She was actually pretty understanding and took direction to stave that off, but still had me blowing at the 15 minute mark.[/QUOTE]Thanks to completely destroying the price policy by overpaying that way.