American Politics

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2452708]If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.
[/QUOTE]My name is Stewie Griffin and I must confess. I hate Trump so much that I travelled back in time 150 years in my time traveling machine to create a newspaper with the only goal of discrediting DonaldTrump back in 2019. And you guessed. That newspaper is the New York Times.

In any case guys, I want to thank you. Really.

When I look at my country and see the huge mess the Government has made managing this crisis I think "we are the dumbest in the galaxy".

But then I just need to take a look at the good old USA. And I feel smarter. Not by much to be honest, but a little. The whole thing with the face masks is even better than the one the spanish Health minister has organized. And that was a tough one.

I never thought I would say this. But long live the Vietnamese Communist party (0 deaths and a nice border with China).

If people were not dying this would be so laughable.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2452672]The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to. [/QUOTE] I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2452672]Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that. [/QUOTE]The problem is that left wing and right wing posters often have a different view on what the real facts are.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2453019]To keep people from hanging outside in groups on those mats drinking and eating and spreading corona.[/QUOTE]Do some people only see one side of life? I'm sure if there wasn't a curfew 3rd road the local clubs would be packed to the rim since business don't get going until 10 pm and that doesn't include all the Thai clubs further up 3rd road towards Pattaya Nua and then you got Naklau even more local clubs that cater to the underage if a Thai need to find their son a first place to look is head there.

Darkside, BBQ Jim June places packed to the rim no social distance anywhere to be seen it is like the wild west slowly opening they must not have gotten the word because it seem they are already on the 4th stage?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2453059]I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.[/QUOTE]It would be interesting to know the breakdown of ISG members between right wing or left wing, conservative or liberal, Pro Trump or Anti Trump. From those expressing views I feel it's pretty much an even split but with the edge given to the conservatives when it comes to feelings of righteousness.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2453059]I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.[/QUOTE]I don't consider myself to be far left or far right. I can't stand either side really. I would say that I'm mostly left of center, but still so close to the center as not to be anywhere near a "leftist". I tend to feel most comfortable with left leaning candidates around the center, followed by right leaning around the center.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2453741]True, that is what it is called at the beginning in politics after the relationship it turns into an Entitlement it is the same if you take the same girl more than once![/QUOTE]There is a school of thought that it is because US super power status is being challenged. It is how a treaty or law works, and it often has unintended consequences. One of it is that China is still classified as developing nation so it takes advantage of the status. This probably will all be fine if they don't challenge US technologically and militarily. Of example is quantum satellite and similar event has happen before. Russian is the first to send satellite to space and you can read about it on NASA web site to see how US react.

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I have no problem with someone else becoming the leader of the world other than the USA In spite of America not being perfect do their share of nation-building but this has been going on long before there was any America. In today's world I still would like them to lead if any of you want China or Russian I say knock yourself out!
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[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if the Pattaya thread is a good place to talk about politics. I always thought this thread was for guys with needy dicks in search of hot chicks, who want to cash in on their good looks and their willingness to do it with guys.

But I suppose, politics plays a role in the kind of sexual freedom Pattaya has. Governments in most places don't allow consenting women and men nearly as much sexual freedom as the Thai government allows.

And this is my problem with so-called leadership by USA or any other country. This leadership usually turns into imperialism and international despotism. The leader country tells everybody and every country what to do, or else. And this often affects the sexual freedom of people as well. Because the leader country imposes its moral standards and hypocrisies on everybody else, under the threat of various sanctions and penalties.

US leadership hasn't yet led to restrictions on sexual freedom in Thailand. But the risk for this is always there, as long as USA remains the leader. Because the US government has been sanctioning various countries for many different issues. It might be only a matter of time before some newly elected US government decides to start sanctioning and punishing Thailand for its sexual freedom.

I'd rather have diversity in the world, where various countries and jurisdictions are free to arrange their laws and freedoms the way they like. Because this way you can leave tyranny and go to a place where you can be free.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2453827]I'm not sure if the Pattaya thread is a good place to talk about politics. I always thought this thread was for guys with needy dicks in search of hot chicks, who want to cash in on their good looks and their willingness to do it with guys.

But I suppose, politics plays a role in the kind of sexual freedom Pattaya has. Governments in most places don't allow consenting women and men nearly as much sexual freedom as the Thai government allows.

And this is my problem with so-called leadership by USA or any other country. This leadership usually turns into imperialism and international despotism. The leader country tells everybody and every country what to do, or else. And this often affects the sexual freedom of people as well. Because the leader country imposes its moral standards and hypocrisies on everybody else, under the threat of various sanctions and penalties.

US leadership hasn't yet led to restrictions on sexual freedom in Thailand. But the risk for this is always there, as long as USA remains the leader. Because the US government has been sanctioning various countries for many different issues. It might be only a matter of time before some newly elected US government decides to start sanctioning and punishing Thailand for its sexual freedom.

I'd rather have diversity in the world, where various countries and jurisdictions are free to arrange their laws and freedoms the way they like. Because this way you can leave tyranny and go to a place where you can be free.[/QUOTE]Politics usually not but with the Virus not a whole lot of dick and such being talked about reason most likely this has gone on as long as it has. As I noted someone would have noted start a new thread I'm sure you heard that before.

As for diversity in the world, don't hold your breath it will never happen in my lifetime or yours! Freedom is just a word some define it with more some with less but truly free it is overrated just a dream. Everybody needs somebody no man is an island? Politic is here to stay it might be just as old as the profession it is the reason we are getting pussy at all? It depends on how you look at it?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2453846]...As for diversity in the world, don't hold your breath it will never happen in my lifetime or yours! Freedom is just a word some define it with more some with less but truly free it is overrated just a dream. Everybody needs somebody no man is an island? Politic is here to stay it might be just as old as the profession it is the reason we are getting pussy at all? It depends on how you look at it?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why you would say this about diversity in government and politics. Because even now we have enough diversity in the world to have sexual freedom in Thailand and some other places too.

So, I can leave my country where this kind of stuff is prohibited and find my freedom in Thailand, at least temporarily and at least enough to satisfy my need for companionship and sex enough not to feel desperate and depressed about it.

Perhaps the word 'freedom' is too general and too abstract to have much meaning. You need to be more specific what freedom exactly you are talking about. Because even in Thailand, people might have sexual freedoms, but their other freedoms might be restricted.

It all depends on what kind of freedom you need, so that you can go to a place where such freedom exists and experience it.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2453827]I'm not sure if the Pattaya thread is a good place to talk about politics. [/QUOTE]Unless it's Pattaya specific it should not be in the Pattaya Reports section. At the very least put it in the General Reports or Lounge section. Just looked and there is actually a "Thailand Politics" thread. Maybe we should use that as the political thread. Sorry to sound like Admin but I absolutely hate talking about politics and imo should be discussed on political boards, not a SEX board (unless it's about Bill Clinton).

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453869]Unless it's Pattaya specific it should not be in the Pattaya Reports section. At the very least put it in the General Reports or Lounge section. Just looked and there is actually a "Thailand Politics" thread. Maybe we should use that as the political thread. Sorry to sound like Admin but I absolutely hate talking about politics and imo should be discussed on political boards, not a SEX board (unless it's about Bill Clinton).[/QUOTE]With the state of my blue balls politics is beginning to sound very sexy.

Remember the show 'Family Ties' in which Michael J. Fox was an ultra Republican Nixon supporter. He subscribed to a politics magazine and in one episode he received an issue of that magazine in the mail which had a centerfold of Nixon, the photo was not shown on the screen but Michael's lustful expression looking at it was shown. Are there some Trumpites who would do the same now?

Now back to sex with those hot Walking Street girls.

Oh Fuck it, I'll join in the politics stuff and this will become a politics thread. No more Pattaya info.

So why is Trump such a conceited dickhead? Is he right in reopening America? Not sure if he's a left winger or a right winger? Why doesn't he just play Center?

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2454024]Opening America now is a clever Trump economic decision. Everybody will get COVID-19, the young working people will do fine, the old retired people will die. Social security quickly becomes solvent because nobody collects retirement. Trump is rushing, he can't let a vaccine save us old farts first![/QUOTE]USA is #1 economy in terms of GDP in the world and they #1 military in the world. But here is catch, they are also #1 in healthcare expenditure in the world and their economy is only 2nd behind (Hong Kong <-- Still belongs to China) in terms the service sector (80% of GDP) and #1 in service sector output or productivity. So, you've found the weakness. If you can't beat the army, then attack the service sector industry with something health related. A second wave or spike would pretty much destroy the USA and plummet us into a depression.

So, is this the thread where we can point out that (as of today) the Dow has only logged an average annual gain of about 7.9% since Trump became president 3 1/2 years ago and only about a 0.6% average annual gain since he passed his first economic "stimulus" legislation on December 23, 2017?

Cool.

I didn't even notice there was a thread like this here.