Warsaw

Ravein, firstly thanks for such a detailed and honest report, it appears that you took a lot of hits for the team and your home run rate was not good!!

Hence why I always rely on reports on here plus am more inclined to hit clubs in Warsaw, you see the goods, see if theres any eye contact, smiles, may only see someone for 1/2 hour........come back later stay for an hour, find out her days on or get her phone number.

So on day one...visit a few clubs, get a feel, if the mama speaks English, let her know you are in town for a few days, if service good, you will come back. Effectively build up a bit of a rapport, smile, be pleasant leave a girl who is gud a tip.

So unless you know for certain an indie is reliable/good...then don't make indies your first punting choice.....my 2/4/6/8/ cents worth!

Thanks again, respect from all LOPA mongers !!!

Just a couple of sites...not seen these links recently...


[url]http://www.sexoferty.com.pl/prywatne-sex-oferty.php[/url]

[url]http://www.sekretki.pl/ogloszenia.php?id=178[/url]

[QUOTE=Ravein2]
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I am quite disappointed by the whole scene. Unusually high miss-rate, especially when compared to, say London or Berlin. Yes, these places, London in particular, are much (!) more expensive, but at this point I am more willing to accept that. Will I return to Warszawa? Not for mongering, that’s for sure!
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I AGREE with you Ravein2.
I should say that I've never tried to use services of the "expensive" agency Avocadoescort (whose rates are similar to Czech agencies') , but had tried many meetings with ladies I saw on the Web : my first meeting at WaW was the only one that let me a good souvenir of WaW , the lady was Eliza ; I tried many times to meet her again but unsuccessfully.

Be careful, the club Imperiumx use her photos at
[url]http://www.escort.net.pl/eliza1.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.callgirl.net.pl/eliza1.htm[/url]
when I called this phone number , I could get an appointment and saw that the adress the taxi led me to was Imperium : Eliza I met there was NOT "my" Eliza (I was informed later by email that the lady I met was "Elizax" [url]http://www.escort.net.pl/elizax1.htm[/url] and not "Eliza1".

By the way, I put a similar notice on these following websites :
[url]http://www.sexyescortads.com/user_profile/show/245892/[/url]
[url]http://www.relaxladies.com/Escort-151[/url]

but "relaxladies" did NOT publish it.

A quick update on Warsaw.

There have been a lot of new faces on Odloty over the last few months. Maybe I've been unlucky, but I don’t seem to get a reply from more phone numbers than before. Also I just haven’t done so well recently, so most of this update is a list of places to avoid.

Tried 3/6 Plac Contituczy twice. Both times quite late, but each time only two or three ladies, none younger than about 35. Didn't stay.

Same story at 33/102 Wilcza.

Tried both Natasha and Patrycia at 51/56 Wilcza, because Karolina wasn't there. Natasha had quite a nice figure, but smaller tits than Karolina, and gave a reasonable service but nothing special. Patrycia had a tense, unhappy look to her, and did only a limited BJ before she moved onto sex. She wouldn't do many positions, and got bored pretty quickly. Conclusion: Karolina is the one to look for there, IMHO.

Moving a bit more upmarket, had a good session for 150 ZL with Iwona23, who has a flat on Marzialkowska. She answers the phone, and also uses SMS intellligently to send her address and so on. She's probably about 30, with quite a sharp but attractive face and a good figure with incredibly firm plastic tits. You could sprain your fingers holding them if you weren't careful. But she gave a good service, with quite a long CBJ, sex in several positions and no rushing.

A contrast to Marteczka at the other end of Marzialkowska, also 150 ZL. She is friendly, speaks good English, with a nice attitude, offers drinks and clean towels and so on. She is very clear that she does what she likes, and doesn't do what she doesn't like. Unfortunately she doesn't like a lot of things. So no licking her nipples ("this is sex, not being with your wife"), no deep penetration ("I don't like it deep"), no deep BJ, not too many positions, and so on. After 20 minutes or so she asked me "do you eat Viagra? " and explained that men who ate Viagra took too long to come and so ended up having to wank themselves off because she had done enough. I can take a hint, so came quickly, showered and was out, in 60 minutes to the second almost since I rang the bell. Perfectly friendly, but not a very rewarding experience – I wouldn’t go back.

I was interested to read the comments about Djikushka – when I visited her, she was definitely the girl in the photo, but smaller than I expected, and tanned all over rather than the bikini strip in the photo. Did a reasonable service, CBJ, nothing particularly special but OK.

Klaudia18 seems to have retired as she's not on Odloty any more. Does anyone know where she's gone? I would love to get my hands on those fantastic tits one more time.

Similarly, there seems to be pretty rapid turnover elsewhere. I tried several girls who were at Lucka 14a the week before to be told that they had retired. I also had two poor experiences trying to meet Kinga at Zelzana 67/20: I went out there on two successive days, having been told that she was available, only to be told that she was now "busy" and would be "one hour, two hours". Probably not worth the trip.

Incidetally, has anyone been with a girl called Patryzia, who looks just like Paris Hilton? Is she just selling looks, or does she hqve performance as well?

Tried Natalia 22 sexi at Ul. J Bema. Tall, slender, slightly washed out girl, with a firm body, small tits, nice face and attitude. Friendly, spoke English but incredibly passive. Really just stood or lay there and waited for you to do things, with no reaction at all. Did some deep BJ, a lot of positions, but eventually got bored with feeling like I was in the room on my own, so came and went. A matter of taste, I suppose.

A couple of weeks before I had been with Olga22 at the same place. Nice, smallish body with good tits; a bit cold at the start, but following a slow massage gave quite an enthusiastic CBJ followed by quite participative sex in several positions.

The one real (re)discovery was Iza25. Not IzaPrivat referred to below- who was pretty good on the first visit, and even better on a rematch. She is really friendly (limited English, though) and obviously really enjoys what she does. She gave a really exciting BBBJ, banging her head down to get it right up to the hilt, and then some really exciting and sweaty sex in a lot of positions. Very unhurried, really friendly, worth every zloty – all in all one of the best experiences in years. I think that she came at least once. Well worth a visit, IMHO.

And last but not least Agnieska21, who remains charming and full of good grace despite the attentions of legions of mongers such a myself. Friendly, unhurried, with a girl next door face and a trim little body, seeing her remains the highlight of my visits to Warsaw. If you see her, please treat her well, as she's worth it.

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Fellow Mongers,

After reading some negative report I feel that I have to take part in the discussion.

First things first:
WE, the "Tourist wellpaying-monger customers" are the one's who pays for the wages of these curtisans.

If they do not deliver, to the money that we pay, then there are others that do deliver.

I truly beleve that Poland are one of the last european countries where you can bang a good girl for a bargain cost. Lets start putting this fact in our favor, and not against us.

Maybe we should have a register here on the forum about brothels, and girls who lie/underdeliver, and anotheone forum of those who DO deliver.

I hope that "voting with the feet" will make a diffrerence in the approch of us, - the one's who are paying their paycheck.

With consumer power, and the knowledge of bad reporting/ good reports here on the forum, The hope is that at least some of these places will change there mind.

And for the others places that don't? - Fuck them. If they don't want to ern our money, then it their problem, not ours.

I had mixed feelings about Warsaw after my last visit, still, my god, I'm on my way back again. -Hopefully with some experiences from last time, to make my trip ever better.

Happy hunting, and don't forget who are paying!

-WE THE CUSTOMERS DEMAND SERVICE, OR WE USE OUR FEETS! :)

Best Regards / Ken Apples

[QUOTE=Top Caat]

[url]http://www.sexatlas.pl/paula26;en[/url]

My first visit to an apartment was to Paula who claims in her ad to be 26. I estimate her to be closer to 30. [/QUOTE]Top Caat,

There have been numerous posts on this forum, that Paula's pictures are fake and she is much older shorter and fatter than on her hugely attractive photos. What was your impression. Are the pictures fake and how would you rate her looks?

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]Fellow Mongers,

After reading some negative report I feel that I have to take part in the discussion.
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Maybe we should have a register here on the forum about brothels, and girls who lie/underdeliver, and anotheone forum of those who DO deliver.
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[/QUOTE]Well, to be honest, THIS is the register: when a fellow mongerer tells his experiences, the register is already there.

What you are proposing looks more like a "black list". I am not against it in principle, BUT we should be very careful about whom to put in it and WHY. We often forget that these girls do a tough job: if one day one of them is not in the right mood, should she immediately be put in the black list? I try to seee things from their side: it is summer, there are ordeals of mongerers who go to WAW, these girls could at some point feel a little bit tired. Or not?

HOWEVER, I would be favourable to make a black list of those girls who have really deceived some of us. Like that girl who came to the hotel, took the money for the all night, pretended also to have dinner at the restaurant, and vanished with the money when the fellow mongerer went to the loo for 2 minutes ( I read the story in another forum- it was not me, but it could have happened to me). These are the girls to be avoided, I think.

But not a girl who simply tells the customer that she does not like to be kissed in some parts, because "she is not your wife". This is a different thing, she is not making harm to anybody.

I'm minded to agree with Euroknight. I suspect that most working girls would much rather be doing something else to earn a living but circumstances often dictate otherwise. To expect them always to be bright and smiling and ready for whatever intimate action we ISG guys have in mind is unrealistic. Sometimes we hit gold as I did some years ago in Warszawa when by pure chance I found the most utterly beautiful, delightful WG and then of course managed to make a compete prat of myself and blew it! But she worked to support her two kids and a sick father. And yes, we've all heard that one before, but I know this was true from other corroborating evidence. And I'm delighted to say that she is out of the business. But what a stunner...

So yes, it you get robbed or truly ripped off, then warn the rest of us; but if the girl isn't wildly enthusiastic, then c'est la vie. Move on to the next one but don't just blame her unreasonably. Let's face it, we can at least make some sort of choice as to whether or not a particular girl is to our taste: but I reckon the number of occasions a WG will think, wow, that guy is great, are few and far between. I think we should just be thankful that we hit it lucky as often as we do.

Just my 2d - YMMV!

Digital and Euroknight, You guys absolutley have some good/strong points here - A girl should not be put on a blacklist just based on poor performance.
(and what is "poor performance" anyway? Guess it comes down to the expectations of the specific customer, and that is very individual)

But as Euroknight added: Rip-off artists should be marked, as well as stripjoints/other venues that put on a regular scam for their customers.

And you should not have to read thru the whole Poland-forum to find that kind of information.

Regarding performance also to be in the calculation:
The wage for one hour "work" can be more money than what the average Polish girl makes for a week of traditional work.
And at that price, to have a girl doing the rip-off over and over again, at least in my eyes disqualify her as someone I would like to spend time with.

Maybe the solution is to go into the semi-pro market, students who wish to make some extra $$.
A good referenceguide where to meet semipro's and how to lay them would be a goldmine in any forum, in any country.

As it would be a by far better way to meet "real" girlfriend material.

Hope that I can bring some light into that after next travel :)

Best regards / ken Apples

[QUOTE=Slickrick D]Top Caat,

There have been numerous posts on this forum, that Paula's pictures are fake and she is much older shorter and fatter than on her hugely attractive photos. What was your impression. Are the pictures fake and how would you rate her looks?[/QUOTE]I'm a bit undecided, it could be the same girl using older photos, taken a few years ago. She's certainly a wee bit heavier than the photos appear. She's no Miss Poland but in terms of performance, was very good indeed

hi guys,

i am new at this community but i can safely say that i am quite experimented on mongering in warsaw. i will first try to share my experiment in hotel action in warsaw and then i will ask a recommendation for my next stay in town in mid of august.

in the last two years, i made six regular visits to that city, mostly on spring and autumn times. but i count to visit warsaw one last time in mid august.

i know from other experinces and from the wordings of the working girl, that summer time is not a decent season for mongering in warsaw. the reason is so simple; some of the working girls are students, some others come from ukraine and belarus for a limited time, and during the summer break, they either go to their home base, or either they go to vacation to sunny beaches or so.

but my next visit will be a business opportunity, first to warsaw then to krakow, then i can't miss to be in warsaw one last time. untill then, i stayed mostly in radisson-sas which has a quite good price/performance ratio. and this hotel is also girl guest friendly, even they adapted recently a new keycard system to the elevators (you have to get down the lobby and pick your girls up). radisson is not at the very center but in a walking distance to emili platter, plac culture, allee jerozolimskie and marsalkowska. it is even close to the old town, plac zamkovy and nowy swiat street which i may suggest to see and have a rest on the pavement coffes. i should add that radisson offer free wireless broadband to the customers, which is 15-20 euros in other competitors hotels.

i stayed in my first visit in hyatt regency. this hotel is not on downtown, in uliza belwederska and not very girl friendly. there are even some places nearby hyatt such as pulawska brothels (privat-lux, a cheap but dirty place, can not recommend at all) and close to marsalkowska 55, but i prefer to be on the center heart.

once i aslo stayed in intercontinental, which i choose it beacuse radisson was fully booked those time (i don't remember the reason behind). intercontinental has better location, better decorated and high rise skyscraper than radisson but has the same story with keycard at the elevators. no problems with the security to bring your girlfriends upstairs. i also read at another forum that there were nice hookers at the lobby bar but i didn't notice any during my stay. if there were any, i know that the prices should be higher than mongering like the locals do it. the pool of intercontinental is at the roof, to 39th floor or so. so you have a nice view of town while swimming or bathing after a nice fuck session. wonderfull way of relaxation.

this was a few info about some hotels in warsaw, but i will keep posting and sharing my previous mongering experiences on later post. i didn't prepare a real map of brothels, because mostly i like and i feel more comfortable at hotel actions.

one last tip for hotel booking. as warsaw is a business centre, the hotels price are higher during weekdays, but during weekends, you may catch nice deals for any 5 star hotels. i mostly book my hotels from [url]www.destinationpoland.com[/url] or [url]www.hotelia.pl[/url] and since yet, i didn't had any problem with bookings. this system works quite fine in warsaw, no double bookings, no cheating etc.

so, my question will be related to my next trip. in mid august, i will come back one last time to warsaw and time, i intend to stay in a cheaper place in order to save money for more on girls. i intend to stay in hotel companile, near central train station. any of you guys, did had any experience in that hotel? about the service, the comfort level, whether there are a free internet connection in the room (a must for searching the target in poland) whether is it possible to accept the girls to upstairs etc. any info can help me.

many thanks

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Very good report, Creature, keep the good work.
If you want to same money for the girls, I would recommend you to stay in apartment:
[url]http://www.warsawapartments.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.hotelinwarsaw.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.topwarsawhotels.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.warsawshotel.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.hotelsofwarsaw.com/[/url]

These are serious companies (I don't know yet the last one). You can bring who you want in your place, and buy cheap local food instead of going to the restaurant.

Usually no internet in the apartment, except a paid option in [url]http://www.warsawapartments.org/[/url]. Someone knows a polish dialup ISP without subscription? (calling a local phone in Warsaw and use prepaid card)

AT,

Thanks for the links of the apartments. I will try some of them.

I will hit Warsaw at 18th of August, at last. This will be my sixth trip to that damn city. Since yet, all of my experiments was with the pros, either outcall or incall. But this time, I will try to pick-up some local freebie girl from a nightclup or from street, metro, tram etc. Last time, I visit the city in Spring time, at mid of May exactly and the streets were full of beautiful blond Polish chicks, and blieve it or not, the freebies on the streets are far more beautiful and fancier than pros. I will have of course pros as a contingency backup at the other hand.

Would you please advice me some decent places to pick-up blond chicks. I have a well knowledge of the town and some basic Polish at beginner to intermediate level.

I heard recently that Dekada and Cinnamon are fancy places but as I don't have any experiment on that subject, I am not sure whether I may score over there. At least, eyecandy would be warranted! As I am turning over 40 nowadays, there should be some stiff competition to pickup a girl and get her back to the hotel, but anyway worth trying, I guess.

Did you had any experience on that area of mongering in Warsaw. Can you recommend me other nightclubs besides Dekada and Cinnamon, where it is easy to hit a score.

[QUOTE=Creature2]AT,

Thanks for the links of the apartments. I will try some of them.

I will hit Warsaw at 18th of August, at last. This will be my sixth trip to that damn city. Since yet, all of my experiments was with the pros, either outcall or incall. But this time, I will try to pick-up some local freebie girl from a nightclup or from street, metro, tram etc. Last time, I visit the city in Spring time, at mid of May exactly and the streets were full of beautiful blond Polish chicks, and blieve it or not, the freebies on the streets are far more beautiful and fancier than pros. I will have of course pros as a contingency backup at the other hand.

Would you please advice me some decent places to pick-up blond chicks. I have a well knowledge of the town and some basic Polish at beginner to intermediate level.

I heard recently that Dekada and Cinnamon are fancy places but as I don't have any experiment on that subject, I am not sure whether I may score over there. At least, eyecandy would be warranted! As I am turning over 40 nowadays, there should be some stiff competition to pickup a girl and get her back to the hotel, but anyway worth trying, I guess.

Did you had any experience on that area of mongering in Warsaw. Can you recommend me other nightclubs besides Dekada and Cinnamon, where it is easy to hit a score.[/QUOTE]

You might want to try to meet people via internet. [url]www.sympatia.pl[/url] used to be free, but now charges a small fee, but it is a good place to meet people.

[QUOTE=Creature2]AT,

Thanks for the links of the apartments. I will try some of them.

I will hit Warsaw at 18th of August, at last. This will be my sixth trip to that damn city. Since yet, all of my experiments was with the pros, either outcall or incall. But this time, I will try to pick-up some local freebie girl from a nightclup or from street, metro, tram etc. Last time, I visit the city in Spring time, at mid of May exactly and the streets were full of beautiful blond Polish chicks, and blieve it or not, the freebies on the streets are far more beautiful and fancier than pros. I will have of course pros as a contingency backup at the other hand.

Would you please advice me some decent places to pick-up blond chicks. I have a well knowledge of the town and some basic Polish at beginner to intermediate level.

I heard recently that Dekada and Cinnamon are fancy places but as I don't have any experiment on that subject, I am not sure whether I may score over there. At least, eyecandy would be warranted! As I am turning over 40 nowadays, there should be some stiff competition to pickup a girl and get her back to the hotel, but anyway worth trying, I guess.

Did you had any experience on that area of mongering in Warsaw. Can you recommend me other nightclubs besides Dekada and Cinnamon, where it is easy to hit a score.[/QUOTE]

Bars, night clubs and discos are traditionally fertile territory for hooking up with the opposite sex but as you say the competition wil be stiff. Your other options are however worth considering based on my own perception of ladies in Warsaw.

I was particularly surprised by the number of all ages on their own in Lazienki Park especially on sunny days. They were clearly ordinary ladies enjoying the surroundings rather than wgs looking for business. What was more surprising was making eye contact and getting a shy smile off some of them. There was most probably nothing more in this than a polite gesture but it did occur to me at the time that it was enough to break to ice and pave the way for conversation.

Sadly I've never been particular adept at talking to strangers let alone chatting ladies up so I passed the opportunity by despite being physically attracted to many of them. These rated 5-7 on the attractiveness scale but there was one who was a 9 who seemed the easiest one to approach judging by the way she looked back at me. I am not an adonis by any standard and wondered whether she was an off duty escort.

Your knowledge of Polish will undoubtedly work in your favour. I have a very limited command of the language but my attempts to communicate in it (mostly to waitresses and female shop assistants) have always elicited a few smiles and a friendly response. Several waitresses engaged in more conversation than I would have expected but I put this down to their natural friendliness. I was smitten by one of them and I have considered on several occasions jumping on a plane back to Warsaw to renew my acquaintance with her but then the rational side of me tells me that I might be heading for disappointment if I were to do this.

Good luck!!