American Politics

We are still waiting patiently for Elvis and other Repubs to explain how Biden and the Dems did this to countries all around the world and to those Law and Order, Rule of Law well managed, high crime rate Red States:

[B]Rising inflation is a global problem
U.S. policy choices are not to blame[/B]

[URL]https://www.epi.org/blog/rising-inflation-is-a-global-problem-u-s-policy-choices-are-not-to-blame/[/URL]

[B]U.S. inflation rate is in the middle of the pack globally[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2022/06/13/inflation-rates-around-world-us-china-eu-japan[/URL]

[B]Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones: study[/B]

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html[/URL]

[B]SC makes list of states with highest rates of violent crime[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxcarolina.com/2022/10/18/sc-makes-list-states-with-highest-rates-violent-crime/[/URL]

And we never did hear how Elvis missed out on the stock market gains from late 2016 right up until the first of 2022. Since the Fed was raising rates beginning in late 2016 and tons and tons of money was being printed every year under Trump, mostly with absolutely nothing to show for it (fewer jobs were created after he and the Repubs added so much more to the deficit and Annual Real GDP Growth never increased by even 1 percentage point) then surely he must have shorted the market early and has been sitting on the sidelines all this time.

Unless his usual coin flip for these matters sent him in a different direction that time, of course.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2756065]So what?

Again, what are you talking about? A spokesman for Pfizer was deposed in Europe and said the vaccine does not prevent transmission.

Here is the science. When the vaccines were approved by the FDA, they were done with a strain of Covid where vaccines did prevent transmission. That was gone about 6 months later. The vaccines had zero to do with death. In fact, people getting the vaccine had a higher death rate than people who did not get it (the placebo group). That is the science. Period.

Once the vaccines were below being 50% effective, they should have been thrown in the trash. However, Biden and his merry band of followers doubled down on the vaccines working and said that if you get the vaccines, you will not get Covid. And of course, since then, every government and pharmacy advocate blowhard who was vaxxed x infinity has gotten Covid.

If you were to actually get out of your shell and educate yourself on both sides of the equation and watch right wing media, or even guys like Jimmy Dore, you would see countless videos of people telling you how not to get Covid and then the videos of announcement of their coming down with it themselves. That you still want to worship these so called experts says all we need to know about you. You sir are the one who is not educated. The latest so called expert to come down with Covid is CDC director Rachel Wallensky..[/QUOTE]Covid sucked, I do agree the worst part about Covid is the long-term consequences for Kids, the financial repercussions run a close second. It is so sad they are still making kids wear masks in Mexico.

My last trips to CDMX 2 Didi Drivers made me put on masks, when will it end. I prefer Didi, in Mexico because they are not as strict about the mask. Uber in CDMX is very strict about the mask.

I think it will probably get worse financially before, economies start to improve, but everything depends on the War and Gas, but with Biden who knows.

[QUOTE=Elvis 20008;2756089][QUOTE=Tiny 12;2755650]And sorry. I've resolved not to argue with Democrats, Trumpsters and cult members. This was bugging me though. [/QUOTE] I am not sure we have any Trumpstes here outside of MDS. ... [/QUOTE]

WOW! Breaking news...Elvis declares, he's [b]not sure we have any Trumpsters here!!! [/b] Outside of MDS1, of course.

Your denial, w/r to the number of "Trumpsters" here, is just hilarious. I haven't laughed and chuckled, this hard in a long time.

I can just imagine the look on MDS1's face, when he read that ridiculous statement....kkkk!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2756065]So what?

Again, what are you talking about? A spokesman for Pfizer was deposed in Europe and said the vaccine does not prevent transmission.

Here is the science. When the vaccines were approved by the FDA, they were done with a strain of Covid where vaccines did prevent transmission. That was gone about 6 months later. The vaccines had zero to do with death. In fact, people getting the vaccine had a higher death rate than people who did not get it (the placebo group). That is the science. Period.

Once the vaccines were below being 50% effective, they should have been thrown in the trash. However, Biden and his merry band of followers doubled down on the vaccines working and said that if you get the vaccines, you will not get Covid. And of course, since then, every government and pharmacy advocate blowhard who was vaxxed x infinity has gotten Covid..[/QUOTE]Under whose watch was the vaccine developed? Donnie the Dumbass' watch, that's who.

Remember that Donnie the Dumbass said that he "really 'got' this stuff" when asked about COVID, vaccines, etc. So how come Donnie the Dumbass let all of these faulty vaccines be developed? He [B]knew[/B] that they were faulty from the get-go, right? Or was he lying again when he said he understood what it was all about.

You complain about how the vaccines weren't worth spit but seem to conveniently forget who was in charge when they were developed and how "smart" that person claimed to be.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2756224]WOW! Breaking news...Elvis declares, he's [b]not sure we have any Trumpsters here!!! [/b] Outside of MDS1, of course.

Your denial, w/r to the number of "Trumpsters" here, is just hilarious. I haven't laughed and chuckled, this hard in a long time.

I can just imagine the look on MDS1's face, when he read that ridiculous statement....kkkk![/QUOTE]Every admitted Repub, Bothsider and Neithersider is a Trumpster whether they know it or not. They help Repubs get elected. And all Repubs have a preponderance of Trump DNA in them and would do every disastrous thing he did if given the chance.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2756289]Under whose watch was the vaccine developed? Donnie the Dumbass' watch, that's who.

Remember that Donnie the Dumbass said that he "really 'got' this stuff" when asked about COVID, vaccines, etc. So how come Donnie the Dumbass let all of these faulty vaccines be developed? He [B]knew[/B] that they were faulty from the get-go, right? Or was he lying again when he said he understood what it was all about.

You complain about how the vaccines weren't worth spit but seem to conveniently forget who was in charge when they were developed and how "smart" that person claimed to be.[/QUOTE]Here are the facts PVM: the FDA will not approve a vaccine if it is less than 50% effective. At first, it was 95% effective, and it went down over time. It was apparent in the Fall of 2021 the vaccine was less than 50% effective. This is when the vaccine should have been pulled. This was Biden's decision and the right thing to do would have been to pull the vaccine and the mandates.

Instead, the bone headed decision was made to give even more vaccines I. E. Boosters. The ultimate example of this failure was Biden himself. He was boosted x 2 giving him 4 vaccines in total, and he got Covid even after blabbing that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Making matters worse is Fauci, the CEO of Pfizer, and now the head of the CDC all got Covid after saying it was not possible to get it after being vaccinated.

Unlike the other douches here, I want to compliment you on acknowledging the vaccines were no good at some point.

Yes, you reverted to the same old tired douche line about it all being Trump's fault, but there was a small, very small acceptance of fact. That is progress with any of you guys.

I just read an article from Matt Taibbi who did an interview with super Democratic douche Tim Robbins. He had his come to Jesus moment and here are a few quotes.

I realized that we have been programmed in a different way in this country, to think that if someone doesn't get the vaccine, they must be a Nazi.

Throwing your doors open for the public means you throw them open to everybody. And once, no one even thought twice about that. It's the decent thing to do. Then during the pandemic, I heard people saying, "If you didn't take the vaccine and you get sick, you don't have a right to a hospital bed. ".

And I just started thinking, "What about all the junkies?" That's the choice they made, too. It's their own fucking vein. Are we kicking them out? No. You take care of them.

And then there was this howler of a line:

I believe that if the vaccine helps you, that's great. But, I have kind of a hard line on freedom. You can't over-regulate people's lives. I don't know what that makes me, what label that puts on me, but I am an absolutist on freedom.

End of quotes. At this point, I wonder what you names you all will call him.

I am not sure how someone believing mandating shitty vaccines, denying care to sick people, and censoring doctors voicing their opinions equates to freedom, but at least we are seeing a few Dems express regret and acknowledge some responsibility for their actions.

The "everything is Republican's and Trump's fault" douche lines are wearing thin, and it is just a matter of time before the public rejects them. Thing is a lot of people voting Republican may leave Trump behind but not you douches. You cannot quit Trump. Who else do you have to blame if anything else goes wrong?

Great discussion on Inflation, Imperialism & Worker Resistance in the USA (and some of it worldwide):

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BI9OhpzQQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2756317]Every admitted Repub, Bothsider and Neithersider is a Trumpster whether they know it or not. They help Repubs get elected. And all Repubs have a preponderance of Trump DNA in them and would do every disastrous thing he did if given the chance.[/QUOTE]Joe Biden is the biggest Trumpster *whether he knows it or not* - he is playing the biggest role in getting Chump re-elected.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2756356]Here are the facts PVM: the FDA will not approve a vaccine if it is less than 50% effective. At first, it was 95% effective, and it went down over time. It was apparent in the Fall of 2021 the vaccine was less than 50% effective. This is when the vaccine should have been pulled. This was Biden's decision and the right thing to do would have been to pull the vaccine and the mandates.

Instead, the bone headed decision was made to give even more vaccines I. E. Boosters. The ultimate example of this failure was Biden himself. He was boosted x 2 giving him 4 vaccines in total, and he got Covid even after blabbing that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Making matters worse is Fauci, the CEO of Pfizer, and now the head of the CDC all got Covid after saying it was not possible to get it after being vaccinated.

Unlike the other douches here, I want to compliment you on acknowledging the vaccines were no good at some point.

Yes, you reverted to the same old tired douche line about it all being Trump's fault, but there was a small, very small acceptance of fact. That is progress with any of you guys.

I just read an article from Matt Taibbi who did an interview with super Democratic douche Tim Robbins. He had his come to Jesus moment and here are a few quotes.

I realized that we have been programmed in a different way in this country, to think that if someone doesn't get the vaccine, they must be a Nazi.

Throwing your doors open for the public means you throw them open to everybody. And once, no one even thought twice about that. It's the decent thing to do. Then during the pandemic, I heard people saying, "If you didn't take the vaccine and you get sick, you don't have a right to a hospital bed. ".

And I just started thinking, "What about all the junkies?" That's the choice they made, too. It's their own fucking vein. Are we kicking them out? No. You take care of them.

And then there was this howler of a line:

I believe that if the vaccine helps you, that's great. But, I have kind of a hard line on freedom. You can't over-regulate people's lives. I don't know what that makes me, what label that puts on me, but I am an absolutist on freedom.

End of quotes. At this point, I wonder what you names you all will call him.

I am not sure how someone believing mandating shitty vaccines, denying care to sick people, and censoring doctors voicing their opinions equates to freedom, but at least we are seeing a few Dems express regret and acknowledge some responsibility for their actions.

The "everything is Republican's and Trump's fault" douche lines are wearing thin, and it is just a matter of time before the public rejects them. Thing is a lot of people voting Republican may leave Trump behind but not you douches. You cannot quit Trump. Who else do you have to blame if anything else goes wrong?[/QUOTE]So you agree that Donnie the Dumbass [B]lied[/B] when he said that he understood all of this stuff. He didn't understand vaccination any better than you do. But We've come to expect that from a charter member of the Moron Brigade.

[URL]https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-few-vaccines-prevent-infection-heres-why-thats-not-a-problem-152204[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2756397]Joe Biden is the biggest Trumpster *whether he knows it or not* - he is playing the biggest role in getting Chump re-elected.[/QUOTE]And exactly how did Biden do that?

Was it anything like the same way Biden caused hyper-inflation in countries all around the world and forced Repub Red States to rank among those with the Highest Crime / Murder Rates?

I notice you haven't explained how Biden and the Dems managed to do that per my previous post question.

Oh, I know! It's because Biden actually did sign and pass historic, bipartisan Infrastructure legislation in the first several months of his presidency after Trump failed to pass even a teeny trump weeny one over four miserable years.

Or maybe it's because Biden's stewardship has actually created more jobs in his first 21 months in office than all three of the previous Repub so-called potuses combined (and possibly soon to be all four) while Trump's stewardship resulted in the first time since Repub Herbert Hoover that a so-called president left office with fewer jobs in the country than when he took office.

Or that Biden is dramatically cutting the deficit annually after Trump added billions and billions to it every year with absolutely nothing positive to show for it.

Please, do tell us what it was that Biden did to help Trump get re-elected.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2756356]Here are the facts PVM: the FDA will not approve a vaccine if it is less than 50% effective. At first, it was 95% effective, and it went down over time. It was apparent in the Fall of 2021 the vaccine was less than 50% effective. This is when the vaccine should have been pulled. This was Biden's decision and the right thing to do would have been to pull the vaccine and the mandates.

Instead, the bone headed decision was made to give even more vaccines I. E. Boosters. The ultimate example of this failure was Biden himself. He was boosted x 2 giving him 4 vaccines in total, and he got Covid even after blabbing that if you got the vaccine, you could not get Covid. Making matters worse is Fauci, the CEO of Pfizer, and now the head of the CDC all got Covid after saying it was not possible to get it after being vaccinated.

Unlike the other douches here, I want to compliment you on acknowledging the vaccines were no good at some point.

Yes, you reverted to the same old tired douche line about it all being Trump's fault, but there was a small, very small acceptance of fact. That is progress with any of you guys.

I just read an article from Matt Taibbi who did an interview with super Democratic douche Tim Robbins. He had his come to Jesus moment and here are a few quotes.

I realized that we have been programmed in a different way in this country, to think that if someone doesn't get the vaccine, they must be a Nazi.

Throwing your doors open for the public means you throw them open to everybody. And once, no one even thought twice about that. It's the decent thing to do. Then during the pandemic, I heard people saying, "If you didn't take the vaccine and you get sick, you don't have a right to a hospital bed. ".

And I just started thinking, "What about all the junkies?" That's the choice they made, too. It's their own fucking vein. Are we kicking them out? No. You take care of them.

And then there was this howler of a line:

I believe that if the vaccine helps you, that's great. But, I have kind of a hard line on freedom. You can't over-regulate people's lives. I don't know what that makes me, what label that puts on me, but I am an absolutist on freedom.

End of quotes. At this point, I wonder what you names you all will call him.

I am not sure how someone believing mandating shitty vaccines, denying care to sick people, and censoring doctors voicing their opinions equates to freedom, but at least we are seeing a few Dems express regret and acknowledge some responsibility for their actions.

The "everything is Republican's and Trump's fault" douche lines are wearing thin, and it is just a matter of time before the public rejects them. Thing is a lot of people voting Republican may leave Trump behind but not you douches. You cannot quit Trump. Who else do you have to blame if anything else goes wrong?[/QUOTE]How many Americans do you suppose died from Covid as the result of getting vaccinated and boosted simply because they weirdly latched onto just those few early times Biden and Fauci said "you won't get Covid if you get vaccinated", ignored the hundreds if not thousands of other times scientific reports and statements were made even by Biden and Fauci elaborating that the vaccines were meant to lessen the symptoms, the need for hospitalization and the risk of death from Covid yet they did get vaccinated on that earlier stated premise anyway?

I mean, compared to the likely hundreds of thousands who died from Covid because they went with Trump's nearly year long repeated assurances to the world that "it's disappearing, we've got this under control, it will go away without a vaccine" and therefore they didn't bother to get vaccinated at all?

Which ones do you supppose were more pissed off at themselves for following the lead of which president and scientist?

Was it the people who believed Biden and Fauci's earlier statements but weirdly heard nothing else about it, got vaccinated and, darn it all, tested positive a few months later but only had a stuffy nose and a mild headache for 3 days?

Or was it the people who believed Trump, didn't bother to get vaccinated and, darn it all, tested positive for Covid a few months later only to find themselves in a very expensive private hospital room or Emergency Room with desperately overworked staff shoving a ventilator nozzle in their mouth and an even more desperately overworked priest standing by ready to administer the Last Rites?

I'll go out on a limb and say the latter had to have been more pissed off at themselves for being so stupid.

Meanwhile, Biden and Fauci following the lead of Biden and Fauci got vaccinated, boosted and when they happened to test positive for Covid months later they indeed only suffered little more than symptoms of a common cold, if that.

By contrast, Trump following Trump's lead, mocked and ignored most mitigating measures, wasn't vaccinated and had to be Dumbo Dropped by a helicopter into a hospital with teams of scientists and doctors at the ready to snatch him from death's door with every conceivable treatment and drug still not readily available to most people.

Do you know why there was such a big difference in the reactions for each of those positive test cases, great for Biden and Fauci vs near death for Trump thanks only to the immediate care and extraordinary treatment he received keeping him alive?

Because the vaccines worked.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2756512]And exactly how did Biden do that?
Please, do tell us what it was that Biden did to help Trump get re-elected.[/QUOTE]There are many policies that he implemented that fence-sitting USAns don't like and would vote against him for. For me the most obvious 2 are:

- ruining millions of lives and livelihoods thru the vax mandates;.

- taking the world to war to crashing the global economy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2756520]

Because the vaccines worked.[/QUOTE]Am sure Elvis can defend hisemlf here, but I just want to point out that you are missing the entire point. I for one accept the vaccines helped some at-risk people to live a few years longer. BUt they certainly did not do as they were promoted to do, which was to prevent transmission. They are not even a vaccine for that reason, so much so that they had to try to change the definition of what a vaccine is to incorporate the health-boosters that they were peddling. The global vax mandate policies were built on false or shaky evidence and showuld never have been forced on to society. Most of the world could have gotten along just fine by follwoing the dictates in the Great Barrington Declaration. But that idea was silenced by a captured press and social media. Something I will never forget.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2756581]There are many policies that he implemented that fence-sitting USAns don't like and would vote against him for. For me the most obvious 2 are:

- ruining millions of lives and livelihoods thru the vax mandates;.

- taking the world to war to crashing the global economy.[/QUOTE]Biden has more than recovered the millions upon millions of livelihoods Trump's horrific stewardship that created Trump's Pandemic destroyed.

Biden pulled us out of the war Trump surrendered fully and completely to the Taliban more safely and efficiently than any withdrawal of the losing side from any occupied country in history.

What war are we engaged in now, please?

Trump was the so-called potus who contributed more to crashing the global economy than any world leader ever. Biden is the one who recovered America from Trump's Great Repub Crash in record, historic fashion.

Nobody can even find the USA "recession" that Repubs have been telling us we were in the middle of for the past 21 months. Trump's Fed Chairman appointee can't even artificially induce an iddy bitty one when we might benefit from one because Biden's roaring jobs creating economy is so strong.

For a classic Bothsider you seem fairly worried that Trump might occupy the White House again. Why should it bother you either way? Dem or Repub, they're all the same to you, right?

Recession, Recession, Who's Got The Recession?

The most accurate prediction for when so far has been "someday in the future", which anybody could have accurately predicted at any time in history.

[B]USA Economy seeing a 'mitigation' in growth not a slowdown, says Bank of America CEO.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/28/us-economy-seeing-a-mitigation-in-growth-not-a-slowdown-says-bank-of-america-ceo.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Youre seeing a mitigation of the rate of growth, not a slowdown. Not negative growth, Brian Moynihan told CNBC.

Consumers still have strong credit, unemployment is low, wage growth is strong and corporations are still in good shape, he said, though there are recessionary risks.

The Fed will take the funds rate to around 5% and then let it work, Moynihan said.[/QUOTE]