East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1989330]Thanks Sam. I will be back in the area Feb 10 - 20. Lets grab a beer. Love to finally meet you.

H1.[/QUOTE]Good for you. Unfortunately, I am looking at March 18th or so arrival. My first time since November 2015 I am ready.

I usually go the SNG site to see if any of the girls are offering discounts that day. Also, if you are able to contact the girl directly instead of through using Judy, the English speaking operator, you may be able to negotiate a better rate. Both Maria and HuJing have offered me lower rates after they met me the first time and I treated them respectfully. Again, don't expect a lot from SNG girls. All 5 SNG girls I've met gave me okay BBBJ, multiple positions, and decent GFE, but none were anything super great. BTW, if the girl isn't showing her face clearly on the site, it's probably because she isn't great looking (e. G. , HuJing). And yes, Beverly's oral skills are fantastic. I usually just meet her for that. And while she waits for you to recover for the 2nd pop, she'll chat with you and show you videos of her niece.

Min-Hang area sauna still in rain?

How about K-TV and Sauna club in Chinese New Year period, still open? Less top players?

Don't want to start a spat here, but why do you post that the girls give lower rate in public forum. Just makes troubles for the girls with SNG. Use private message system.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1989421]I usually go the SNG site to see if any of the girls are offering discounts that day. Also, if you are able to contact the girl directly instead of through using Judy, the English speaking operator, you may be able to negotiate a better rate. Both Maria and HuJing have offered me lower rates after they met me the first time and I treated them respectfully. Again, don't expect a lot from SNG girls. All 5 SNG girls I've met gave me okay BBBJ, multiple positions, and decent GFE, but none were anything super great. BTW, if the girl isn't showing her face clearly on the site, it's probably because she isn't great looking (e. G. , HuJing). And yes, Beverly's oral skills are fantastic. I usually just meet her for that. And while she waits for you to recover for the 2nd pop, she'll chat with you and show you videos of her niece.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marty47;1989564]Don't want to start a spat here, but why do you post that the girls give lower rate in public forum. Just makes troubles for the girls with SNG. Use private message system.[/QUOTE]Thought the same.

I think it's totally legitimate that Steven takes a cut, here. Without the website we wouldn't know.

I had some good experience with some girls, and rather mediocre ones with other girls from SNG. I won't disclose any names, I think it sometimes also depends on the chemistry.

Rain: she is the telephone operator herself, and she sometimes can be rather rude.

Lev.

Lev, Marty,

The SNG girls that I'm referring to are the ones that book their own appointments, prices, etc. Some use SNG's service (I. E. , Judy) to do this, others don't. The ones that don't, the truly independents and usually the ones that can speak decent English, simply pay a rental feel to Steven of some sort. I'm not trying to squeeze out the middleman. Especially when there isn't one. For example, I would never directly contact Rain's girls since it's not even an option on her site. But with Steven, he openly publicizes some of his girl's direct contact info.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1989564]Don't want to start a spat here, but why do you post that the girls give lower rate in public forum. Just makes troubles for the girls with SNG. Use private message system.[/QUOTE]And why shouldn't he?

Its not like SNG found HuJin. She was recommended on a Singapore Forum long before he put her up his site.

The listed price on SNG was several 100's higher than her previous price reported on the said forum.

Same goes for several others, included Jolin, also listed on this Singapore Forum at 700 and ending up on SNG or whatever its Private girls website was called for 1200 RMB!

In the past years several KTV girls from some singapore ebonkie pimp ended up on SNG for several 100's higher than the listed price from the pimp.

So lets cut the BS on that. This forum is to share info.. (not just a place for SNG or yourself to advertise your websites trying to monetise our reports).

I'm curious about the service offered at #98 Rong Hua road (Near Shuicheng Road metro station) by the various girls. Which ones offer BBBJ or FS and which ones only do he. Please pm me only with this info.

Rain.

20+ girls, but her site doesn't reveal who's available and who's not. So you really don't know how many of these girls were available at any time, this is a problem especially now that CNY is around the corner. Chinese girls only, no foreign girls. Only way to book the girls is through Rain. Rain isn't exactly the most polite person on the phone or wechat, well documented in this forum by several members. No customer reviews on her website. 1st hour price - 1200 to 1500 rmb.

I'd tried 2 girls with Rain, both were very good so no complains there. But like everyone else, my complain was with Rain herself. During my last call to her, the girl I had in mind was not available, and when I tried to describe to her (first in English then in Chinese) the type of girl I wanted, she was impatient, short and obnoxious even though I was a repeat customer. So Rain if you're reading this, brush up on your customer service and you might get more customers. If you get impatient with us asking you who's available, then list it on your website. Adding a customer review section will also cut down on some of our questions if you find them too tedious to answer.

SNG.

30+ girls, shows their availability. You get a variety of girls. Chinese, Russians, Vietnames, Thai. Two ways of booking, those who can speak / write English and you book them directly; those who can't speak / write English and you book through Judy. How they charge the girls is probably different, but that's not something for me to worry about. Judy probably went through a course in Customer Service, at least she's not rude to the customers. Customer reviews of individual girls are available on the website, but they are censored and it's also well documented and debated here. 1st hour price. All over the map, from discount prices of 999 to 5000 rmb.

I'd booked a lot more of Steven's girls. I tended to go for the true independent girls with direct contact numbers. For the few times I had to book through Judy, she was alright. Service of girls were generally good with only two bad ones (one is no longer on the website, the other still on). As for censoring the reviews, Steven has his reasons and I'm not here to argue about it. I go to other websites if I want to read up more reviews on the girls.

This is review and comparison of their websites. My preference is SNG, but I'm not here to promote either. As far as website and customer service is concerned, both have their good and bad.

As for the girls, this is a people business. You won't click with everybody. Your language (Chinese) skills, the way you treat the girls, how you take care of yourself, even your body odor, all come into play. I'd found some girls who were highly rated here to be so-so, and had great experiences with a couple of them who had bad reviews. I've also had guys who told me the girls I recommended were horrible lays.

Hi AZ123,

I recently discovered that Rain is on Wechat. You can find her in Wechat using her cell #. On her wechat, she regularly announces who is available. And guess what?! She regularly announces discounts! I had no idea. Several of her girls can be had at discounted rates on various days or times. And I totally agree that Rain is rude. Half of her texts to me are rude even though she knows that I am a serious customer and a repeat customer. I am guessing that she has to deal with a lot of nonsense from others, but I don't know why she has to take it out on us or why she doesn't hire an operator to handle correspondences. By comparison, Kitty in Beijing is great to work with directly, and if you opt to go with her phone operator, that person is also courteous and efficient. This is why I've used Kitty's almost every week when I am working or visiting Beijing, and why many others are loyal Kitty customers.

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1989712]Rain.

20+ girls, but her site doesn't reveal who's available and who's not. So you really don't know how many of these girls were available at any time, this is a problem especially now that CNY is around the corner. Chinese girls only, no foreign girls. Only way to book the girls is through Rain. Rain isn't exactly the most polite person on the phone or wechat, well documented in this forum by several members. No customer reviews on her website. 1st hour price - 1200 to 1500 rmb.

I'd tried 2 girls with Rain, both were very good so no complains there. But like everyone else, my complain was with Rain herself. During my last call to her, the girl I had in mind was not available, and when I tried to describe to her (first in English then in Chinese) the type of girl I wanted, she was impatient, short and obnoxious even though I was a repeat customer. So Rain if you're reading this, brush up on your customer service and you might get more customers. If you get impatient with us asking you who's available, then list it on your website. Adding a customer review section will also cut down on some of our questions if you find them too tedious to answer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1989810]Hi AZ123,

I recently discovered that Rain is on Wechat. You can find her in Wechat using her cell #. On her wechat, she regularly announces who is available. And guess what?! She regularly announces discounts! I had no idea. Several of her girls can be had at discounted rates on various days or times. And I totally agree that Rain is rude. Half of her texts to me are rude even though she knows that I am a serious customer and a repeat customer. I am guessing that she has to deal with a lot of nonsense from others, but I don't know why she has to take it out on us or why she doesn't hire an operator to handle correspondences. By comparison, Kitty in Beijing is great to work with directly, and if you opt to go with her phone operator, that person is also courteous and efficient. This is why I've used Kitty's almost every week when I am working or visiting Beijing, and why many others are loyal Kitty customers.

.[/QUOTE]Rain offers special rates for some of the girls, they are normally always the same, Monica, Coco, etc. This doesn't mean that the other girls are not available. I assume she owns a Korean Karaoke bar somewhere invMinjang, she once mentioned that the girls normally are working there. Rain herself has been in the business for many years, and she occasionally is also still available. I have seen her once in person, she is quite attractive.

Lev.

[QUOTE=Levitian;1989872]Rain offers special rates for some of the girls, they are normally always the same, Monica, Coco, etc. This doesn't mean that the other girls are not available. I assume she owns a Korean Karaoke bar somewhere invMinjang, she once mentioned that the girls normally are working there. Rain herself has been in the business for many years, and she occasionally is also still available. I have seen her once in person, she is quite attractive.

Lev.[/QUOTE]What does Rain herself charge for her services? I actually respect her.

Hello. I was wondering if anyone has input on Helen and friends ([URL]http://www.helenandfriends.com/[/URL]). I contacted Helen and she told me only 1 rate - 1,200 for and hour. According to website that's for massage (2 hours). I am wondering if FS is on the menu at the 1,200 or if it is just a he for 1,200. If it is only a he that's pretty steep for US standards. I mean heck I can get LT from Manhattan for 1,500 so I need someone to help me. Any experiences with Helen and friends. I am looking for an alternative to Shanghai Nightlife Guide as the ladies have been very un-predictable and not as represented. Input??