Prague

So, what happened to Prague? I have visited or lived in this city periodically the last 20 years. Now I have been back for a small week and much has change to the worse. Praha used to be a good city. Now everything is more expensive, there are less clubs, reduced services in the basic package in privats, much more upselling, fewer beautiful ladies and service is down. I was lucky and found a gem (came early to the club and took the only beauty). She was sweet and nice, but no extras, none whatsoever beeing a little princess, and expensive lady drinks. I could have had two club nights for this evenings bill just a few years ago.
Something is wrong when more and more ex-commie cities / eastern European cities are more expensive then cities in Western Europe. You get more value some miles south, in Vienna, and some miles west, in Germany. Praha is a lovely city, but from now I will concentrate on regulars.

[QUOTE=Hrchrister;2801298]So, what happened to Prague? I have visited or lived in this city periodically the last 20 years. Now I have been back for a small week and much has change to the worse. Praha used to be a good city. Now everything is more expensive, there are less clubs, reduced services in the basic package in privats, much more upselling, fewer beautiful ladies and service is down. I was lucky and found a gem (came early to the club and took the only beauty). She was sweet and nice, but no extras, none whatsoever beeing a little princess, and expensive lady drinks. I could have had two club nights for this evenings bill just a few years ago.
Something is wrong when more and more ex-commie cities / eastern European cities are more expensive then cities in Western Europe. You get more value some miles south, in Vienna, and some miles west, in Germany. Praha is a lovely city, but from now I will concentrate on regulars.[/QUOTE]What happened in Prague is pretty much the same that happened in the rest world Hrchrister. Higher prices, fewer clubs, reduced services, and much more upselling. Covid, inflation, feminism, supply and demand and the overall economy. Take your pick for the reasons behind all this. I am reading the same everywhere. Which club did you visit where the girl you picked did not offer any extras and was being a little princess? In Prague, I noticed that many more girls have flowed into massage places. They don't need to offer as much and get the same pay rate as a club girl. Higher cost of living has driven up prices for the girls. It is ultimately the tourist still pays the going rate. Well, if nobody does then it might force prices down. I have also seen the opposite happen where if there were no customers, the attitudes and service levels drop. There is no point comparing FKKs to what is offered in Prague. You go to Prague for a specific reason. It is just now twice as hard to find a good provider, but I'll continue to hunt. Where did you move onto now and is it that much better?

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=WillEmo;2801228]Hello gentlemen,

I stay in Prague three days next week and I am looking for an erotic massage, with a nude masdeuse, touching.

What is the best place, for you?

And place where the masseuses are open to sex with blow job, penetration.

Thanks.

W.[/QUOTE]Do not look for massage places where girls offer blow jobs and provide sex. This just won't happen. Instead, just find a good privat or club where the girl offers sex and has massage skills. A long time ago, I found a girl at Sweet Paradise who provided BBBJ, sex, ANAL sex, and a really great lingam massage finish. I will never forget it.

The best you can get in a massage place is a "pussycat" massage. You will be able to give her oral, but she will fake hers on your dick. Not my cup of tea when there are so many better options available. Just read the previous posts and you will have your answer.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2801313]What happened in Prague is pretty much the same that happened in the rest world Hrchrister. Higher prices, fewer clubs, reduced services, and much more upselling. Covid, inflation, feminism, supply and demand and the overall economy. Take your pick for the reasons behind all this. I am reading the same everywhere. Which club did you visit where the girl you picked did not offer any extras and was being a little princess? In Prague, I noticed that many more girls have flowed into massage places. They don't need to offer as much and get the same pay rate as a club girl. Higher cost of living has driven up prices for the girls. It is ultimately the tourist still pays the going rate. Well, if nobody does then it might force prices down. I have also seen the opposite happen where if there were no customers, the attitudes and service levels drop. There is no point comparing FKKs to what is offered in Prague. You go to Prague for a specific reason. It is just now twice as hard to find a good provider, but I'll continue to hunt. Where did you move onto now and is it that much better?

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]If we exclude the countries currently at war, one example left in Europe is Venna, in my opinion. Half an hour with a beauty 100 euro, 40 more for an hour. And that's with the ultimate extra; uncovered and you dump your load inside while the girl smiles "you're welcome". Much less if you take the basic package. In a Prague club half an hour without extras is the same price as half an hour with the ultimate extra in Vienna, I noticed.

Prague is better club wise since you can have (the few) beauties in your arms on the coach small talking and drinking and get to know them before the deed. Rest is down, down.

I guess you're correct about the overall situation. I have seen it in smaller eastern European countries as well, extreme rise in prices the locals can't afford. Still it's not going down. In general it is the mongers who is to blame. To many pay whatever the princess asks for. On the other hand; higher prices / fewer ladies shows that eastern Europe is getting better as societies. That's good. I believe certain countries in South America can be the place to go now (and Asia of course). Or?

[QUOTE=Hrchrister;2801901]

Prague is better club wise since you can have (the few) beauties in your arms on the coach small talking and drinking and get to know them before the deed. Rest is down, down.

I guess you're correct about the overall situation.

On the other hand; higher prices / fewer ladies shows that eastern Europe is getting better as societies. That's good. I believe certain countries in South America can be the place to go now (and Asia of course).

Or?[/QUOTE]Compared to the past Hrchister, the number of clubs and privats are down, but I still believe you can find quality if you look hard enough. Unforeseen circumstances have impacted the hobby in a negative way. That goes without saying. You are right, in general everything is down.

If Vienna remains a highlight, then I might take a side trip to see for myself. I have not been there to monger, so I will have to take your word for it. Reports have many Czech girls working there because they can earn Euros. They believe this is better than working in their home country. If they factor in the cost of living, it might actually work out the same.

Based on your experiences in other Eastern European nations, you have noticed their standard of living has improved. You say that their society as a whole has improved since they were behind the iron curtain. Girls won't just fuck you for a sandwich. Good for the girls, but you must factor in the higher prices as a monger. Here is news for you, prices in Asia and South America have crept up too, and quality has gone down. Still affordable compared to your standard of living, but I am reading higher prices overall. I have been around Asia, but I still prefer the look and service standards of the European girls. There are intangibles that give Europe an edge over Asia. I am still willing to absorb the higher costs, but I agree the fault is in the monger that is still willing to pay. Supply and demand.

FiddyCent.

Finally webpage of Melissa de Rouge works. I wish I could see her one day.

[URL]https://www.melissaderouge.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stero320;2802293]Finally webpage of Melissa de Rouge works. I wish I could see her one day.

[URL]https://www.melissaderouge.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
300 per hour? Oh well. There might be a niche market for this such as international tourists who are punting in Prague once in a lifetime. I doubt if any local, regular punters to Prague will ever pay that Price. For that price they will expect to get Stunners Czech porn stars who are still active in porn industries.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2802490]300 per hour? Oh well. There might be a niche market for this such as international tourists who are punting in Prague once in a lifetime. I doubt if any local, regular punters to Prague will ever pay that Price. For that price they will expect to get Stunners Czech porn stars who are still active in porn industries.[/QUOTE]Can someone refresh my memory when it was last time I wanted to do high volume dates (multiple men in a day) with local men? Please, do yourself a favor and think. Maybe some women do not want to have 5-6 and more men in a day, half an hour date, asking men in doors what extras they want and counting minutes until they finally get off that doors again. I read the providers board about their clients, how they do not even shower properly or turn on the shower and do not clean themselves at all. These are not the men I want to meet. I want to have great time, and my friends are just like that. Caring, sweet and great lovers. And do not let me start on the idea that I have to show the world all my holes in order to be "worthy" of 300 PH for mr Adindas. Living in Prague went so much higher but you still want the same rates from 2005.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2801313]What happened in Prague is pretty much the same that happened in the rest world Hrchrister. Higher prices, fewer clubs, reduced services, and much more upselling. Covid, inflation, feminism, supply and demand and the overall economy. Take your pick for the reasons behind all this. I am reading the same everywhere. Which club did you visit where the girl you picked did not offer any extras and was being a little princess? In Prague, I noticed that many more girls have flowed into massage places. They don't need to offer as much and get the same pay rate as a club girl. Higher cost of living has driven up prices for the girls. It is ultimately the tourist still pays the going rate. Well, if nobody does then it might force prices down. I have also seen the opposite happen where if there were no customers, the attitudes and service levels drop. There is no point comparing FKKs to what is offered in Prague. You go to Prague for a specific reason. It is just now twice as hard to find a good provider, but I'll continue to hunt. Where did you move onto now and is it that much better?

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Apart from economic growth, technology has kicked "classic" monger in the balls. Pretty girls don't need to waste time sitting in a club when they can get clients online. I used tinder / badoo / bumble / seeking to score semi-professional hottie for a dinner date + sex while escort dot cz was good enough provide professionals. After living in Finland, Estonia and Norway for last few years, Prague seems to be Paradise.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2802622]Apart from economic growth, technology has kicked "classic" monger in the balls. Pretty girls don't need to waste time sitting in a club when they can get clients online. I used tinder / badoo / bumble / seeking to score semi-professional hottie for a dinner date + sex while escort dot cz was good enough provide professionals. After living in Finland, Estonia and Norway for last few years, Prague seems to be Paradise.[/QUOTE]Agreed DwayneJohnson, some girls use technology to score dates. This cuts out the middle man. Why not keep the total fee for the meeting and not have half of it go to the club? Sure! I have used those dating apps to find girls in other cities, but I've never needed to in Prague. There was always an abundance of choices and options. Could you honestly say that you received top notch service from a semi-pro, as opposed to a privat girl who has a price list and a menu of services? You are comparing Prague to Finland, Estonia, and Norway. You should be comparing Prague to Prague. There are girls for every price level from privats all the way to pornstar escorts. Where do you rank your semi-pro date? Somewhere between a girlfriend and a professional? Not a criticism, just trying to gauge where this girl fits in to the grand scheme of things. What was your cost for the meeting, and could you have received better value elsewhere on a price per hour breakdown?

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2802701]Where do you rank your semi-pro date? Somewhere between a girlfriend and a professional? Not a criticism, just trying to gauge where this girl fits in to the grand scheme of things. What was your cost for the meeting, and could you have received better value elsewhere on a price per hour breakdown?

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Semi-pro girls cost would be less than pro if you consider time spent on a date not just sex later. If they are having good time then they generally don't watch clock and some might even stay for the night like a real GF. Price varies but generally hottest girls would be ready for close to 300 Euro. Prettiest girls on escort dot cz will be available for less than 150 Euro however quality doesn't reach close to semi-pros. Considering that I was first time traveler and had less time I could have over paid on few occasion.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2802750]Semi-pro girls cost would be less than pro if you consider time spent on a date not just sex later. If they are having good time then they generally don't watch clock and some might even stay for the night like a real GF. Price varies but generally hottest girls would be ready for close to 300 Euro. Prettiest girls on escort dot cz will be available for less than 150 Euro however quality doesn't reach close to semi-pros. Considering that I was first time traveler and had less time I could have over paid on few occasion.[/QUOTE]OK, DwayneJohnson. I would agree that is a reasonable rate for a semi-pro girl to charge. I believe that some of the outrageous asking prices are about 5000 CZK per hour or just over 200 Euros to start for some escorts. Considering the good times spent at dinner and fun afterwards, the closing price of 300 Euros is not bad at all. However, I don't expect you would receive special services above the basics, unless you and the girl really hit it off. I am used to a specific set of services which I have come to expect in Prague. For me, the semi-pro action is also something to be desired, some of the time. When I come to Prague I am looking for the extras, and I could get it all for 300 Euros easily. It is just different. Not right or wrong, but as I always say. There is always something for everyone. Good job for a first timer. You are a cut above the guys who go there and complain they cannot get any action. Now that is laughable!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=MelissaDeRouge;2802583]Can someone refresh my memory when it was last time I wanted to do high volume dates (multiple men in a day) with local men? Please, do yourself a favor and think. Maybe some women do not want to have 5-6 and more men in a day, half an hour date, asking men in doors what extras they want and counting minutes until they finally get off that doors again. I read the providers board about their clients, how they do not even shower properly or turn on the shower and do not clean themselves at all. These are not the men I want to meet. I want to have great time, and my friends are just like that. Caring, sweet and great lovers. And do not let me start on the idea that I have to show the world all my holes in order to be "worthy" of 300 PH for mr Adindas. Living in Prague went so much higher but you still want the same rates from 2005.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are right to some extents Lady MelissaDeRouge. There are also some people want to pay, EUR10 per minutes for camera flirting, chaturbate but majority are not. Also, I fully agree indeed Living in Prague become more expensive due to inflation. But did the cost of living increase 100%?

Also how much a good looking young Czech pornstar starring in a rough scene get paid for 3-4 hours work? Have any idea? That is including spanking, DAP, the three holes, gob, ass, puss are gang-banged bareback by three one foot long cocks. It is well know many of these Czech pornstars are working in Privats under different profiles so not easy to recognise, unless people have met them personally.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2802809]Yes you are right to some extents Lady MelissaDeRouge. There are also some people want to pay, EUR10 per minutes for camera flirting, chaturbate but majority are not. Also, I fully agree indeed Living in Prague become more expensive due to inflation. But did the cost of living increase 100%?

Also how much a good looking young Czech pornstar starring in a rough scene get paid for 3-4 hours work? Have any idea? That is including spanking, DAP, the three holes, gob, ass, puss are gang-banged bareback by three one foot long cocks. It is well know many of these Czech pornstars are working in Privats under different profiles so not easy to recognise, unless people have met them personally.[/QUOTE]Adindas, lets talk business. Because escorting, porn acting etc is business. There will always be people that are successful in their business, and those which are not. Should the succesful ones lower the rates because of the unsuccesful ones? Would you tell your boss (if you are hypothetically employed) to pay you significantly less because your colleagues somewhere else makes half or even less then what you are making? What makes you think that I would / should lower my rates just because there are girls (that are in bad situations or underestimate themselves) that are making 1500 czk per hour?

I am independent girl. I am working since I was 18 and I am 30. Well, I was not working 12 years in a row. I was trophy GF / SB. And imagine, there are men that will spend minimum 5,000 just for gifts in hopes that I will become their girlfriend. And they have no assurance that this investment will ever be paid in intimacy. And then you are telling me what I should or should not charge because I build my reputation without the need to make porn. I am not a newbie Adindas. My rates reflects not only my qualities but also reputation and branding. And these are only my GFE rates.

Realistically speaking, porn is not even very good strategy. Because your pool of pots are men that want to have girl they saw in movie. And those men usually waste too much time with nonsense so they don't have the money or are really selfish. If you do extreme scenes, these takes hours of preparation. Plus water fasting for the whole shooting plus 12 hours prior depending on how long the shoot is (talking a-level). In order to do such long scenes actors use relaxants, but mostly drugs. Thus a lot of actors have addiction issues. If you would want to do that with clients and do the preparations, the constant enema will eventually have effect on your health. And now we talk only physical health. Some actresses suffer PTSD, very high number develop depression or other issues and most of them end up resenting men. Porn industry is gross and the way you talk about it brings me to my final point.

Rates and branding selects clients that you will get. I do not want to meet men like you. I do not want to meet men that do not really like women but like what they are giving. I do not want to meet men which condone exploitation. I love my hobby, but I hate the work. I hate the men that will try to manipulate me. I hate those men that will try blackmail or threat me with reviews. I hate that so many women are endangered every day because they do meet those that me and other knowledgable providers refuse. I feel sad for those that do not have the knowledge or options to choose / do better. But I love meeting those sweet loving men that care about me and want to make me happy and satisfied during our time as well. They take care of my pleasure and ask me if I got home well after the date. Some even bring me my favorite flowers, sweets, or just send me photo of something that remindes them times we were together. I love that there are men I met like ten years ago and I am cringing over what I was wearing, how I was looking etc and we still have some sort of relationnship. The way I work and the men I met protected me from resenting men and intimacy.

It is absolutely fine you would not pay my rates because you do not see my value. I can not be "miss Perfect" for everyone. But do not tell me what to do because of that. Do not just assume that I should sacrifice this and that because you think it is right. Nobody is forcing you to spend a single euro on me or any other higher end providers. In market there will always be cheap, medium, hight and ultra high price for everything. And it is more than okay because different people have different needs, values and expectations. This post is not only for you, so I hope you and others will think twice before complaining about someones rates again. I might end up with new SD next week and I will be. Puff. Gone again, which would make this discussion even more pointless. I will talk more about things like this somewhere else, no point spamming this thread.

Take care,

Melissa.

P.S. : Yeah, I will be charging per minute on onlyfans as well.

Acute business lady. Indeed there is a high paying courtesan.
Like this lady Bookings with Alice, who offers services to both individuals and couples, begin at approximately $2,000. In December 2018, she revealed that she managed to book $1 million in one year, like this
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7063199/The-nations-highest-paid-legal-sex-worker-opens-job.html
But majority are courtesan wannabes, ending up with dusty phones. Wish you luck with your business.

[QUOTE=MelissaDeRouge;2803012]Adindas, lets talk business. Because escorting, porn acting etc is business. There will always be people that are successful in their business, and those which are not. Should the succesful ones lower the rates because of the unsuccesful ones? Would you tell your boss (if you are hypothetically employed) to pay you significantly less because your colleagues somewhere else makes half or even less then what you are making? What makes you think that I would / should lower my rates just because there are girls (that are in bad situations or underestimate themselves) that are making 1500 czk per hour?

I am independent girl. I am working since I was 18 and I am 30. Well, I was not working 12 years in a row. I was trophy GF / SB. And imagine, there are men that will spend minimum 5,000 just for gifts in hopes that I will become their girlfriend. And they have no assurance that this investment will ever be paid in intimacy. And then you are telling me what I should or should not charge because I build my reputation without the need to make porn. I am not a newbie Adindas. My rates reflects not only my qualities but also reputation and branding. And these are only my GFE rates.

Realistically speaking, porn is not even very good strategy. Because your pool of pots are men that want to have girl they saw in movie. And those men usually waste too much time with nonsense so they don't have the money or are really selfish. If you do extreme scenes, these takes hours of preparation. Plus water fasting for the whole shooting plus 12 hours prior depending on how long the shoot is (talking a-level). In order to do such long scenes actors use relaxants, but mostly drugs. Thus a lot of actors have addiction issues. If you would want to do that with clients and do the preparations, the constant enema will eventually have effect on your health. And now we talk only physical health. Some actresses suffer PTSD, very high number develop depression or other issues and most of them end up resenting men. Porn industry is gross and the way you talk about it brings me to my final point.

Rates and branding selects clients that you will get. I do not want to meet men like you. I do not want to meet men that do not really like women but like what they are giving. I do not want to meet men which condone exploitation. I love my hobby, but I hate the work. I hate the men that will try to manipulate me. I hate those men that will try blackmail or threat me with reviews. I hate that so many women are endangered every day because they do meet those that me and other knowledgable providers refuse. I feel sad for those that do not have the knowledge or options to choose / do better. But I love meeting those sweet loving men that care about me and want to make me happy and satisfied during our time as well. They take care of my pleasure and ask me if I got home well after the date. Some even bring me my favorite flowers, sweets, or just send me photo of something that remindes them times we were together. I love that there are men I met like ten years ago and I am cringing over what I was wearing, how I was looking etc and we still have some sort of relationnship. The way I work and the men I met protected me from resenting men and intimacy.

It is absolutely fine you would not pay my rates because you do not see my value. I can not be "miss Perfect" for everyone. But do not tell me what to do because of that. Do not just assume that I should sacrifice this and that because you think it is right. Nobody is forcing you to spend a single euro on me or any other higher end providers. In market there will always be cheap, medium, hight and ultra high price for everything. And it is more than okay because different people have different needs, values and expectations. This post is not only for you, so I hope you and others will think twice before complaining about someones rates again. I might end up with new SD next week and I will be. Puff. Gone again, which would make this discussion even more pointless. I will talk more about things like this somewhere else, no point spamming this thread.

Take care,

Melissa.

P.S. : Yeah, I will be charging per minute on onlyfans as well.[/QUOTE]