East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1990533]Hello. I was wondering if anyone has input on Helen and friends ([URL]http://www.helenandfriends.com/[/URL]). I contacted Helen and she told me only 1 rate - 1,200 for and hour. According to website that's for massage (2 hours). I am wondering if FS is on the menu at the 1,200 or if it is just a he for 1,200. If it is only a he that's pretty steep for US standards. I mean heck I can get LT from Manhattan for 1,500 so I need someone to help me. Any experiences with Helen and friends. I am looking for an alternative to Shanghai Nightlife Guide as the ladies have been very un-predictable and not as represented. Input??[/QUOTE]It's "on the menu", but you most probably have to negotiate with the girls directly. Some of the girls have reviews on ***, but I never bothered.

Lev.

[QUOTE=Levitian;1990618]It's "on the menu", but you most probably have to negotiate with the girls directly. Some of the girls have reviews on ***, but I never bothered.

Lev.[/QUOTE]Yes and negotiate most likely means more than 1200. Try SNG or Rain or go to Judy's.

Lev and Sam. Thanks! At a 1,200 rmb entry point to bargain, I will take your advice. Judy's, Manhattan and Rain In Shanghai look pretty good to me. Peace to you! H1.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1990943]Yes and negotiate most likely means more than 1200. Try SNG or Rain or go to Judy's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1991374]Lev and Sam. Thanks! At a 1,200 rmb entry point to bargain, I will take your advice. Judy's, Manhattan and Rain In Shanghai look pretty good to me. Peace to you! H1.[/QUOTE]I have done well at Judy's and manhattans a year ago at 1000-1200. I only wanted them for 2 pops and two hours. I prefer sleeping alone.

I was just there 2 weeks ago and same thing - 2 hours for 1,200 for the same reason. I want that big comfy bed all to myself when sleeping. I'm headed back in 10 days and will keep you all posted! H1.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1991412]I have done well at Judy's and manhattans a year ago at 1000-1200. I only wanted them for 2 pops and two hours. I prefer sleeping alone.[/QUOTE]

In years past, there were always special promotions in saunas for holidays, and that applied to the Spring Festival as well. I was not here for Chinese New Year Day so I cannot say if there was not an one day special. But when I tried to line up an appointment today, the places I contacted all added a premium of about 100 rmbs. I think that reflects the state of the market. With the crackdowns, it is now a seller's market, and prices had been going up all through the year, much more than the rate of general inflation.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1992698]With the crackdowns, it is now a seller's market, and prices had been going up all through the year, much more than the rate of general inflation.[/QUOTE]

Was there a big crackdown recently? Or do you just mean the general cracking down that's been going on for the last couple of years? I'm wondering if this is a (relatively) OK time to go to the saunas.

[QUOTE=Optional;1993526]Was there a big crackdown recently? Or do you just mean the general cracking down that's been going on for the last couple of years? I'm wondering if this is a (relatively) OK time to go to the saunas.[/QUOTE]Read post #10742. A lot of naughty places had closed in MinHang.

Have used them much in the past. I know Helen well. Her rules are no FS. But some of the girls will do it. But its a real mixed bag. It's strictly massage with HJ (possibly BJ or FS depending on girl) by her rules. You could also get one of the girls numbers and work separate with out Helen in the middle. Some girls will do that.

The service for what it is, and Helen is good though. She's a good gal.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1990533]Hello. I was wondering if anyone has input on Helen and friends ([URL]http://www.helenandfriends.com/[/URL]). I contacted Helen and she told me only 1 rate - 1,200 for and hour. According to website that's for massage (2 hours). I am wondering if FS is on the menu at the 1,200 or if it is just a he for 1,200. If it is only a he that's pretty steep for US standards. I mean heck I can get LT from Manhattan for 1,500 so I need someone to help me. Any experiences with Helen and friends. I am looking for an alternative to Shanghai Nightlife Guide as the ladies have been very un-predictable and not as represented. Input??[/QUOTE]

Being reluctant to face the aggression at Manhattan I went to Judy's for a beer and music last night.

The atmosphere was much more relaxed and I really enjoyed it. It wasn't a big crowd when I left at 11 but there were some nice girls there including a couple of 20 year olds. The small band featured a now slightly older April who was at Malone's before. She is still a great singer. The large Tiger draft was at 60 something rmb at a fair enough price for it's size.

I got boobed around a little of course. One very attractive and intelligent Viet offered to come to my hotel just to chat for free. Well maybe fool around a little for a very small amount, whatever I could spare, Maybe 1000. I didn't feel the sort of f--k me or die pressure that you get at Manhattan.

I recently had a history making session with YuEr in the Massage Parlor at #76 Changshou Rd, 4th floor.

I went in and the guy at the desk kept saying "massage" to make sure I knew what I was paying for. Why argue. I just said yes. When I told him I wanted to meet with number 3 he smiled and showed me to a quite nice and large enough room with a shower.

She came in, attractive face, 5 feet 7 inches in here bare feet with a nice trim body. She wrapped her arms around me and gave me a nice kiss. I gave her 200 rmb and told her in mandarin what I wanted. She said yes. She doesn't speak English but they all understand sign language. She might know a few english sex terms.

Giving her the money in advance did not dampen her enthusiasm. I was with her for more than an hour which is maybe twice the alloted time. The guy at the desk charged me a bit extra on the way out. I expected a price of 350 for a normal amount of time with probably HJ or BJ service. He accepted 400. Fair ball.

It is not hard to find. From Jing Ann metro take line 7 north 2 stops to Changshou Rd. Exit the station onto Changshou Rd. And walk east for 15 minutes to #76. You will pass a large park on your side of the street on the way.

She is a champion.

Heading over to Judy's on the 12th, anyone interested in grabbing a couple beers over there shoot me a PM.

Is the Portman Ritz-Carlton, Shanghai a girl friendly hotel? Can I invite a girl from Judy's or Manhatten for an overnight stay? Anything I should consider?

Thanks for your feedback!

[QUOTE=Idefix;1994895]Is the Portman Ritz-Carlton, Shanghai a girl friendly hotel? Can I invite a girl from Judy's or Manhatten for an overnight stay? Anything I should consider?[/QUOTE]Is it ever. Hoare central in SH to be precise. Walk out side door ands 2 minutes you are in Manhattan - 3 minutes further down road to Judys. Open slather 24/7 and nobody will ever bat an eye lid. I regularly stay there if only in SH for a day or so.

The ladies might be hotter at Manhattan but the vibe is desperate. Too many drunk ladies who hassle at Manhattan. I love Judy's. Even tho I liked the old location better!

[QUOTE=FiveAces;1994610]Being reluctant to face the aggression at Manhattan I went to Judy's for a beer and music last night.

The atmosphere was much more relaxed and I really enjoyed it. It wasn't a big crowd when I left at 11 but there were some nice girls there including a couple of 20 year olds. The small band featured a now slightly older April who was at Malone's before. She is still a great singer. The large Tiger draft was at 60 something rmb at a fair enough price for it's size.

I got boobed around a little of course. One very attractive and intelligent Viet offered to come to my hotel just to chat for free. Well maybe fool around a little for a very small amount, whatever I could spare, Maybe 1000. I didn't feel the sort of f--k me or die pressure that you get at Manhattan.[/QUOTE]