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I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2251075]I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.[/QUOTE]I cannot comment on the past. However I think I can give good perspective on the present. This is based on a Sunday night and a Tuesday night 4+ hrs both times. And for perspective I have been to Sharks, Oase, Palace, and World around Frankfurt.
Yes it is good. Great facilities and plenty of pretty women from my POV. It is expensive relative to the Frankfurt clubs, but everywhere is more expensive with the new law. If you are in Berlin and have coin you will have a great time — provided you have enough money to roll the dice a few times. If you are there for only one girl you could get relatively quality GFE — more likely during an hour booking — or have a dud.
I did not see a huge Romanian clique problem there. The prices were relatively standardized if somewhat high relative to other clubs.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2251075]I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.[/QUOTE]Dear Ninja,
Like Steve said, The facility is great, but you know that. Girls wise, I still support the opinion that for 60 euro, nothing happens in the room. You have a different experience. However, in more general terms, Artemis is excellent, but expensive. For 150-170 I have a great hour. But, sometimes it isn't enough, so 1. 5-2. 5 hours are required. There are lot's of Romanians and more than the average number of Germans at the Moment. There is a good amount of Hungarians and blackies / Latinas. All in all, I believe Artemis is a great facility, more expensive than most, has a great variety of ladies with a shortage in fresh teens.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2251075]I wish someone would finally explain is Artemis any good? Or too expensive? Or too many tourists? Or too many Romanians? Or too much upsell, too little GFE service? Was it good some years ago? Are other clubs better?
I can never find real answers to these questions. I wish someone would just answer.[/QUOTE]I was supposed to be in Zurich last weekend but because of a snow storm USA and missed flight connections I changed my plan and visited Berlin instead.
I was in Artemis last Saturday (November 17), spent 6 hours and did 2 half hour sessions. Club was very crowded pretty much the same way during my first visit couple of years ago. Quality of the lineup has gone way downhill since my 1st visit couple of years ago. Lineup last Saturday was average at best with only few good looking ones.
The two Romanian girls I sessioned preferred half hour sessions, didn't charge for DATY / o, kissing wasn't on the menu, one of them offered NCBJ as extra whereas other didn't offer it. Both girls are very young, petite and pretty. I didn't encounter any up selling or sharky behavior from either of them in room. Both wrapped up the session after I finished with 5-10 min still left. One the girl's name is Beatrice and I forgot the other ones name (she sits with Beatrice on the 2nd couch on the left when you enter the lounge).
Nice facilities. Many places to take a nap which is very helpful when you're tired from a long journey.
Saturday 5 pm to 1. 30 am.
Have not visited for a while.
Showed up, busy, lots of customers and good number of girls.
Smoke in the bar was thick and sent some looking for clean air.
After a while, I went with Adele 28 yo from Belgrade 176 cm tall be cup brunette. Nutty squirrel of high intellect.
Wonderful specimen.
Extended session, BB extra, toy extra, no other haggling.
Really quite superb, made wish I was better rested and in better shape so I could do her justice.
Otherwise, food was not so good.
Loud Americans in pool mit Bier. Remove by security.
5 Italians extracting 300 euro from cash machine.
Drug Russian telling one girl he would sober up and prove to he that he truly loved her. Lost sed a tear on that one.
Otherwise: Silvia of Bucharesti. Have not seen for 2 years, looked absolutely edible having returned from 2 hours plus session in room waiting to be paid. Gave her small gift as I left and told she remembered me.
Jayne from Lebanon. Would not take her shoes off in June and proceeded to talk me and bench me to death then but remember me.
Arlev. Turkish German. Still on my fantasy list after several years. Came up and kissed me flush on the lips, surprise since she never kissed in the room.
So I had limited time and had to go but could have stayed and been kept captive for ever. Other also very do able.
Did not rate club on overall line up but enough to make me want to come back.
Reality is that is you want BBBJ it will like cost you 50 euro as an extra.
Jonathan Swift.
[QUOTE=Bearsk;2251336]Saturday 5 pm to 1. 30 am.
Have not visited for a while.
Showed up, busy, lots of customers and good number of girls.
Smoke in the bar was thick and sent some looking for clean air.
After a while, I went with Adele 28 yo from Belgrade 176 cm tall be cup brunette. Nutty squirrel of high intellect.
Wonderful specimen.
Extended session, BB extra, toy extra, no other haggling.
Really quite superb, made wish I was better rested and in better shape so I could do her justice.
Otherwise, food was not so good.[/QUOTE]Giving a gift to a prostitute in a FKK? Why not but for sure she will prefer cash.
[QUOTE=Danny227;2250776]2009 palace wad phenomenal as well, but that's the trend now. I doubt the good old days will return. Some great private apartments in Berlin.[/QUOTE]I discovered Palace later after meeting palace girls in Artemis, then it made me curious to go, but I did begin to taste palace from 2014 or 2015 ish and it was still good.
I believe or like to believe Artemis still has one or two stunners in line up, but I will stay away for little more while due to reported condition and what I also experienced during my last visit quite long ago.
If upsell is too harsh, it is actually cheaper to attend globe if you are fly in monger or other cities for FKK in Germany.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2251169]I was supposed to be in Zurich last weekend but because of a snow storm USA and missed flight connections I changed my plan and visited Berlin instead.
I was in Artemis last Saturday (November 17), spent 6 hours and did 2 half hour sessions. Club was very crowded pretty much the same way during my first visit couple of years ago. Quality of the lineup has gone way downhill since my 1st visit couple of years ago. Lineup last Saturday was average at best with only few good looking ones.
The two Romanian girls I sessioned preferred half hour sessions, didn't charge for DATY / o, kissing wasn't on the menu, one of them offered NCBJ as extra whereas other didn't offer it. Both girls are very young, petite and pretty. I didn't encounter any up selling or sharky behavior from either of them in room. Both wrapped up the session after I finished with 5-10 min still left. One the girl's name is Beatrice and I forgot the other ones name (she sits with Beatrice on the 2nd couch on the left when you enter the lounge).
Nice facilities. Many places to take a nap which is very helpful when you're tired from a long journey.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2251769]Have you been to Austria? I'd check out GT Vienna or Wellcum in Villach. GT is another tourist club with big upsells, but if Artimis LU is doing the same, might as well go there for the better LU. Wellcum girls do not upsell in comparison, but both LUs are good. Personally would visit Wellcum instead of GT due to lack of upsells, with excellent food and facilities.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.
Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.
One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?
I will be theüsseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2251989]Yes, I have visited Vienna twice and tried GT and Funplast In spite of upsells, terrible rooms / facilities / food, I still visit it because of poker room next door where I spend time between sessions.
Funplast is not a bad option because of cheap entry. Strangely I didn't encounter any up charging for services that were free or up selling.
One of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger on Welcum is because of difficulties in getting there. Other reason is I wasn't sure about the quality of lineup. How is the lineup there?
I will be thesseldorf for 3 nights. I plan to visit GT / LR and maybe one other club.[/QUOTE]I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.
Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.
At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.
So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.
Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2252060]At least in Villach you have Andiamo too, so that makes it 2 clubs out in the middle of nowhere, while the easy to get to city of Berlin only has one club.
So comparing these two destinations, Villach is a clear winner at the moment.
Maybe one or two clubs in western Germany has girls offering more in the room, but I don't feel Wellcum is behind any German club consistently in looks even if it was down slightly a bit the past 6 months. The thing is, the lead Wellcum had before then was just so big. While now its more on par with the top German clubs.[/QUOTE]The drive to Villach is totally worth it, when you get close to the alps. It's quite a sight! Wellcum has a nice backdrop scenery looking from the garden. The neighborhoods though the town routes is picturisque. I was stunned! Facilities, food, and scenery just creates a luxurious feel.
Andiamo is nice to have an alternative, but it is comparatively a small scale LU. Similarly Marina in Slovenia 2 hrs away with same 70 Euro pricing for all 3. And all catering to Italians in the Area. Marina and Andiamo are similar in quantity and quality of the LU with Wellcum being the better choice.
As far as upsells in Funpalast, Lalabo is on the money, it's rare compared to GT Vien, but also, girls are more newish and amateur there. Service is still hit or miss.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2252036]I think the LU is pretty good, but the level of service is below the German clubs. My expereince is that girls don't really upsell, but also rush the room a bit. You're better off in Germany for service. It's 70 per half HR at Wellcum. If you do visit Wellcum, it's best to visit on Friday or Saturday the place doesn't bring in much outsiders besides the Italians in the area, early weekdays are slow with low attendance.
Samya is definately worth checking out if you are ok with loud music. If Fra, Sharks is worth checking out. Particularly Weds and Fridays has the fullest LU.[/QUOTE]PL,
I thought of checking out Samya today, then I read your recent posts about YY and now I am trying to decide which one to visit. Which do you think is better at the moment?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2251713]I discovered Palace later after meeting palace girls in Artemis, then it made me curious to go, but I did begin to taste palace from 2014 or 2015 ish and it was still good.
I believe or like to believe Artemis still has one or two stunners in line up, but I will stay away for little more while due to reported condition and what I also experienced during my last visit quite long ago.
If upsell is too harsh, it is actually cheaper to attend globe if you are fly in monger or other cities for FKK in Germany.[/QUOTE]While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.
[QUOTE=Danny227;2252696]While that's true. If the option exists go to another city. 60 euro customers are those effected the most. If you are on a one hour level and your willingness to pay is 150-170, then you should be good. Of course lots of landmines in Artemis, so choose carefully. Globe is more expensive, but it is also a different level of service and management. Artemis is dead for 60 euro clients, that's a certainty.[/QUOTE]Yeah my tolerance upsell amount is 150 euro and I do not mind upsell like that as long as service is delivered. I mean I am not the type who complain about going over house rate a bit, but when girls break down every service and begin charging for each, I mean I know the prices and I am not ATM toy here. And yes, for that amount, I get services to my satisfaction, of course I accept anal and CIM is optional fee and out side my demand of GFE with above upsell price I am willing to accept.
Well, I am fly in monger and I got choices, so now I monger in other city for little more while. It is too bad I got such a good memories year after year in Artemis, but hey, nothing last forever as they say. One fine day, Artemis would get back to mild upsell club like it once used to be, then I shall be back and try out the club again.