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Hi,
I know in some sauna clubs (MP) in Shanghai, there are services of sex with no condom provided. Is that safe for catch HIV / STD? They use liquid condom inside girls pussy to prevent pregnancy. Not sure if it will cause HIV / STD risks? I heard that now a day, scientific findings say that man caught HIV from woman through virginal sex is very rare, chance is lower than hitting by a car on streets.
Please comment!
Thanks!
Hi,
I know in some sauna clubs (MP) in Shanghai, there are services of sex with no condom provided. Is that safe for catch HIV / STD? They use liquid condom inside girls pussy to prevent pregnancy. Not sure if it will cause HIV / STD risks? I heard that now a day, scientific findings say that man caught HIV from woman through none protected virginal sex (no condom sex) is very rare, chance is lower than hitting by a car on streets.
Please comment!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=AllForBb;1995030]Hi,
I know in some sauna clubs (MP) in Shanghai, there are services of sex with no condom provided. Is that safe for catch HIV / STD? They use liquid condom inside girls pussy to prevent pregnancy. Not sure if it will cause HIV / STD risks? I heard that now a day, scientific findings say that man caught HIV from woman through none protected virginal sex (no condom sex) is very rare, chance is lower than hitting by a car on streets.
Please comment!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Excuse me, these girls are hookers. They see more mileage than most. Using Condoms are not the end of the world. Not using them can be.
Each to his own, take your chances but I never will.
Shanghai is pretty dangerous. Put on the jimmy and be happy.
[QUOTE=AllForBb;1995030]Hi,
I know in some sauna clubs (MP) in Shanghai, there are services of sex with no condom provided. Is that safe for catch HIV / STD? They use liquid condom inside girls pussy to prevent pregnancy. Not sure if it will cause HIV / STD risks? I heard that now a day, scientific findings say that man caught HIV from woman through none protected virginal sex (no condom sex) is very rare, chance is lower than hitting by a car on streets.
Please comment!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Mothers teach us to look both ways before crossing the street. That's not enough to keep you safe in China. Even the scooters avoid the street and ply the sidewalk. They frequently get nailed at the intersections. Wear your raincoat and cross in the middle of the block. A Korean woman who rammed my car said "your fault, I go".
I am visiting China and planning to stay in Shanghai for one night. Can I request guidance on following;.
1. Which are nice clubs with good girls, who like to drink, dance and accompany on bed.
2. Which is the best area to stay, keeping clubbing in mind and any recommended hotel in 100 USD range.
3. Ate there any working girls who like to hang out for fun?
Thanks a lot in advance. My PM is active in case you like share any contacts.
[QUOTE=AllForBb;1995030]Hi,
I know in some sauna clubs (MP) in Shanghai, there are services of sex with no condom provided. Is that safe for catch HIV / STD? They use liquid condom inside girls pussy to prevent pregnancy. Not sure if it will cause HIV / STD risks? I heard that now a day, scientific findings say that man caught HIV from woman through none protected virginal sex (no condom sex) is very rare, chance is lower than hitting by a car on streets.[/QUOTE]While vaginal sex has a lower risk level than anal sex, it is much more likely to catch HIV from a WG even doing only vaginal sex because:
- They have multiple partners daily, some of which will practice very rough sex which can lead to micro damage / bleeding in the woman's genitals and then your risk is as high as anal sex since you have direct blood exposure.
- Some WGs keep working during their periods to earn more money / as some saunas will charge them if they miss a day at work.
- WGs are very likely to catch other STDs due to repeated uncovered sex and repeated sex / washing which by itself amplifies the risk of infections of all sorts.
While they have these STDs some of them multiply their risk to catch / transmit HIV (due to sores, damage, bleeding and such).
- A WG is a population at risk with a higher % of STDs / HIV cases but what do you think of customers aiming WGs going for no condom. You just mix high risk populations with high risk populations and multiply your chances to catch something.
So its just basic logic, you have very little chances of getting ran over by crossing the street, but if that street is a highway, you're just asking for it. And while some people will get away with it, is it really worth the risk? If you think so, save yourself the trouble, buy a gun and play the russian roulette.
Thank you for the comments (advise)!! I agree with all your points that no condom sex with those sauna girls who offer this is probably more risky.
How about with KTV girls? Those KTV girls do not like sauna girls who may fuck 10 -20 man a day. Many of these KTV girls are students who like to make quick pocket money. They may fuck only one man per night or per a few nights. They usually insist the condom usage. However, we man, if skillful, can make condom flip off during the sex, if you want this and if you are experienced.
Be honest, sex without condom will feel much better than with using condom. My questions is, should no condom sex with KTV girls be relatively / or much safer than with sauna girls who offer this? If indeed a low risk, is it worth the risk for joy?
[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;1995324]While vaginal sex has a lower risk level than anal sex, it is much more likely to catch HIV from a WG even doing only vaginal sex because:
- They have multiple partners daily, some of which will practice very rough sex which can lead to micro damage / bleeding in the woman's genitals and then your risk is as high as anal sex since you have direct blood exposure.
- Some WGs keep working during their periods to earn more money / as some saunas will charge them if they miss a day at work.
- WGs are very likely to catch other STDs due to repeated uncovered sex and repeated sex / washing which by itself amplifies the risk of infections of all sorts..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AllForBb;1995903]Thank you for the comments (advise)!! I agree with all your points that no condom sex with those sauna girls who offer this is probably more risky.
How about with KTV girls? Those KTV girls do not like sauna girls who may fuck 10 -20 man a day. Many of these KTV girls are students who like to make quick pocket money. They may fuck only one man per night or per a few nights. They usually insist the condom usage. However, we man, if skillful, can make condom flip off during the sex, if you want this and if you are experienced.
Be honest, sex without condom will feel much better than with using condom. My questions is, should no condom sex with KTV girls be relatively / or much safer than with sauna girls who offer this? If indeed a low risk, is it worth the risk for joy?[/QUOTE]Yes that is perfectly ok, go for it (is this guy for real? )
1. Manhattan, Judy's, Zapatas, Muse 1 and 2.
2. Stay in Puxi, Jingan district. Search Agoda for price.
3. Working girls don't hang out just for fun. There are some (very few English speaking ones) where you can pay for their time and take them out to clubs.
[QUOTE=PgNightlife;1995303]I am visiting China and planning to stay in Shanghai for one night. Can I request guidance on following;.
1. Which are nice clubs with good girls, who like to drink, dance and accompany on bed.
2. Which is the best area to stay, keeping clubbing in mind and any recommended hotel in 100 USD range.
3. Ate there any working girls who like to hang out for fun?
Thanks a lot in advance. My PM is active in case you like share any contacts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamCan;1995915]Yes that is perfectly ok, go for it (is this guy for real? )[/QUOTE]I confused. What do you mean "is this guy for real"? Sarcastic? I just want to consult you guy for expert opinions. You can simply say "no, it does not worth it", if it is your "scientific" opinion.
[QUOTE=SamCan;1995915]Yes that is perfectly ok, go for it (is this guy for real? )[/QUOTE]Well, yes. Apparently he is for real. Reading his posting history, They are mainly about the BB FKK scene in Germany (of which I have no knowledge). Almost all of his posts concern BB sex and he appears to have a high degree of paranoia about BB sex, but desires to continue the practice.
But I think that any guy who goes bareback (in Southern China where I have resided for 12 1/2 (included 4 years in HK) is a fool. And I think that any guy who deceives a girl by surreptitiously slipping the condom off during sex is despicable.
I imagine that there is also a big difference between the more sophisticated and sexually knowledgeable German scene than girls working in Chinese KTV and sauna, who in most cities are relatively uneducated and have little knowledge about sexual diseases and risk of transmission. Many of their practices are little more than superstition. For example the use of a certain brand of toothpaste to prevent STD infections.
I would also add that these WGS are also being banged by many Chinese guys who show total disregard for sexual safety and usually go bare back with girls from all sort of backgrounds from 元50 to 150 BBS girls to 5000 KTV model types.
In conclusion, there is a high rate of STD (including HIV) infections in China because of the ignorance of uneducated rural WGs and (young) Chinese guys who don't seem to care about sexual safety. I think that this would be a world of difference to the scene in FKK clubs in Germany.
BTW you claim that you develop a "xiao san" relationship with KTV girls. I think that the girls would be more accurately described as "ernai" which, certainly in Southern China, is the term generally applied to mistresses who are, or were WGs.
Ikks.
Anyone have a new Wechat contact for Red House Sauna? I know they moved to a new location earlier this week, but it seems like the manager deleted his old Wechat account though.
[QUOTE=Optional;1996019]Anyone have a new Wechat contact for Red House Sauna? I know they moved to a new location earlier this week, but it seems like the manager deleted his old Wechat account though.[/QUOTE]Nevermind. Ignore my question. I found it.
[QUOTE=AllForBb;1995937]I confused. What do you mean "is this guy for real"? Sarcastic? I just want to consult you guy for expert opinions. You can simply say "no, it does not worth it", if it is your "scientific" opinion.[/QUOTE]There is a reason it is called safe (or in your case unsafe) sex. Everyone has their own level of risk they are willing to take. KTV girls, hookers, bar girls or even an honest date with a girl you just met. , there is no set solution on what girl is safer than the other. Does the KTV girl use IV drugs and share needles? Did the KTV girl have a boyfriend that practiced unsafe sex every day at the barbershops?
I know a massage girl that was a good friend of my Chinese girlfriend (at the time). She had been a virgin and had only had sex with her boiyfriend. she only did HJs (at the time) at the MPs... She got the clap from her boyfriend who was a DJ at a KTV in Shanghai and had access to many ktv girls. so much for your theory...if you can get the clap, you can get HIV.
When we talk about sex without a condom, it is similar to playing russan roullette (as said by another poster) The rates of HIV have been rising in China. That is a "scientific fact" you can look up. I personally have never been able to understand someone thinking that sex without a condom was worth losing your life over. Or infecting your partner at home if you have one. I also don't look down on anyone that chooses to make these choices. They are theirs to make.
There is also a place on the forum for safe sex questions. You may find more facts there.