East China - Shanghai

Hi all for Bb,

I read about "Small special service". Could you advice what this includes? I also read about "Xiao, the, Quan". Xiao and Quan is clear after your explanation below. Would you know if "the" is the same as "big special" ?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2003564]"Xiao special"=BB, "big special" = Anal, "Quan Neng" = BB+Anal+CIM and Swallow. Such offers in Germany FFK cost extra 100 to 200 euros, but the same price in Shanghai saunas.

I started to know such offers in Shanghai saunas existed in early 2016 (maybe late 2015). "Big special" (anal with condom) should be safe if no condom break. Good deal comparing with FKK. Other offers (no extra charges) are good deals too, but as you commented earlier, safety is a big concern. I love bb, but will be cautious. I intended to do bb with girls who do not offer bb (relative safer), not with girls who offer bb (relative unsafe, because they did bb to everyone)...[/QUOTE]

"Small special service" include sex without condom, or come in pussy (CIP or BB). Not recommended, as commented by a few senior members, unsafe, because these girls indeed allow every man to fuck them without condom and come in their pussies. Relative easier to catch HIV or STD, see link below for scientific facts.

"Big special service" = anal sex with condom (relative safe, if condom no break). Don't know they offer anal without condom (most unsafe, please read [URL]https://www.poz.com/article/HIV-risk-25382-5829[/URL], although I can quote from the link: "As for anal sex, the most risky sex act in terms of HIV transmission, if an HIV-negative topthe insertive partnerand an HIV-positive bottom have unprotected sex, the chances of the top contracting the virus from a single encounter are 1 in 909 (or 0. 11 percent) if he's circumcised and 1 in 161 (or 0. 62 percent) if he's uncircumcised. And if an HIV-negative person bottoms for an HIV-positive top who doesn't use any protection but does ejaculate inside, the chances of HIV transmission are, on average, less than 2 percent. Specifically, it is 1. 43 percent, or 1 out of 70. If the guy pulls out before ejaculation, then the odds are 1 out of 154". These are scientific results. A lot of more facts worth reading and knowing.

"Quan Neng Service" or "all included service" = "small + big services + swallow sperms".

No idea if these are offered in Shanghai saunas only or all over the China. These sauna girls said they were tested every week. No idea how long they can stay negative for HIV and STD. In Germany FKK and AO clubs, these indeed are offered with a very high price. These girls at German FKK / AO also said they were tested every week. Also no idea how long they can stay negative for HIV and STD. FYI, in Germany, a new law was passed to forbid no condom oral sex effective July 1, 2017. Things will be changed in Germany on condom free sex.

[QUOTE=Idefix;2003862]Hi all for Bb,

I read about "Small special service". Could you advice what this includes? I also read about "Xiao, the, Quan". Xiao and Quan is clear after your explanation below. Would you know if "the" is the same as "big special" ?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Idefix;2003681]I'm in Shanghai next week and get reply from Saunas in Minhang district that they are open. Do you believe that it's still a no go zone? If I ask them directly, they will of course tell me that everything is OK. Appreciate your answer![/QUOTE]They were closed before Chinese New Year, and was said would be re-open after Chinese New Year. If you go in March, please report if indeed they are re-open. When I visit Shanghai, I used to stay in the Minhang area, visited saunas in day time, and picked-up KTV girls for overnight bb sex if they look young type of school girls and tested negative.

Happy to finally be able to provide some useful information. Was in Shanghai the past few days and stopped by Bodi. Sign on the door says closed. There was a guy standing outside. He said Bodi is closed for good, the lease is up. He was handing out cards to another place, owned by the same people. Hong Feng Hot Spring Hall. It doesn't have an address on the card, but it's next to the Marriot on Hong Feng Road. Lots of security guys outside.

Inside a little nicer than Bodi, the set up is a little different. First you go and get changed, then to the room with the girls. 5 levels of pricing from 1100 to 3000 rob. Lots of girls, many pretty ones, perhaps 30 standing on risers in the room, and 6 sitting on chairs in the middle. Not sure if they were featured or what, I think they just rotate in. I picked a nice looking Chinese girl, 1800 price, but I got a 200 RMB discount with the card I got from the guy at Bodi. Then to the room and shower, and soapy body massage. I like the throw the girl off her game and insist on giving her a soapy massage as well, and ensuring everything is squeaky clean. Threw her off a bit, she took a little bit to warm up, but warm up she did. Only thing she wouldn't allow was FIV, but she liked my finger in her ass, after a bit of prodding. Very good experience. They have hot tubs and sauna but not sure when you get to partake. Either before or after?

I managed to save the discount card and we will see if it works the next time I am in Shanghai, as I would certainly return.

[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;2004245]Happy to finally be able to provide some useful information. Was in Shanghai the past few days and stopped by Bodi. Sign on the door says closed. There was a guy standing outside. He said Bodi is closed for good, the lease is up. He was handing out cards to another place, owned by the same people. Hong Feng Hot Spring Hall. It doesn't have an address on the card, but it's next to the Marriot on Hong Feng Road. Lots of security guys outside.

Inside a little nicer than Bodi, the set up is a little different. First you go and get changed, then to the room with the girls. 5 levels of pricing from 1100 to 3000 rob. Lots of girls, many pretty ones, perhaps 30 standing on risers in the room, and 6 sitting on chairs in the middle. Not sure if they were featured or what, I think they just rotate in. I picked a nice looking Chinese girl, 1800 price, but I got a 200 RMB discount with the card I got from the guy at Bodi. Then to the room and shower, and soapy body massage. I like the throw the girl off her game and insist on giving her a soapy massage as well, and ensuring everything is squeaky clean. Threw her off a bit, she took a little bit to warm up, but warm up she did. Only thing she wouldn't allow was FIV, but she liked my finger in her ass, after a bit of prodding. Very good experience. They have hot tubs and sauna but not sure when you get to partake. Either before or after?

I managed to save the discount card and we will see if it works the next time I am in Shanghai, as I would certainly return.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the head up. Too bad. I have been to Bondi several times. It is such a convenient place if you go through Pudong airport.

Jb.

I don't think this is much further away than Bodi.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2004262]Thanks for the head up. Too bad. I have been to Bondi several times. It is such a convenient place if you go through Pudong airport.

Jb.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;2004283]I don't think this is much further away than Bodi.[/QUOTE]Is this place accessible to someone who doesn't speak Chinese, and without prior arrangements? I mean is it OK to just show up there?

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2004793]Is this place accessible to someone who doesn't speak Chinese, and without prior arrangements? I mean is it OK to just show up there?[/QUOTE]No problem to just show up, that's what I did, however I had a chinese speaking companion, and the famous card from the guy outside Bodi. I think that helped, but looked like many were just showing up. It's to the left of the entrance to the Marriot, through the parking garage elevator I think.

Thanks Simon.

Is it easy enough to identify the place once you get there? I'm assuming there is no English signage and I'd hate to knock on the wrong door.

Also, does anyone know if SiYuan sauna at Merrilyn hotel is still open?

[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;2005082]No problem to just show up, that's what I did, however I had a chinese speaking companion, and the famous card from the guy outside Bodi. I think that helped, but looked like many were just showing up. It's to the left of the entrance to the Marriot, through the parking garage elevator I think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2005144]Thanks Simon.

Is it easy enough to identify the place once you get there? I'm assuming there is no English signage and I'd hate to knock on the wrong door.

Also, does anyone know if SiYuan sauna at Merrilyn hotel is still open?[/QUOTE]Look for all the security guys. I went in through the elevator in the parking garage, to the left of the main entrance to the Marriot. They will make sure you press the right button, I am sure.

Back to Shanghai for a short time again. These days not too busy so I decided to comfort me with a massage. As I had a good experience there before, I headed to Spring Massage again. The girl who showed up was quite young and slim. The face however not that beautiful. As I expected to lay on my belly most time, I did not care. Got a quick shower and went back to the small room. She was a funny girl and we had a nice chat during our session. The massage was good. Quite relaxing and comfortable. She began to play with my private parts during the massage and after laying on my back she took him out slowly and started to pleasure me. As she stood close to me, I started to touch her and went down under her clothes. She, of course, asked for extra money. As I wasn't interested in too much but just being finished, I agreed on 150 for touching her naked top body. She did a good HJ and I finished well all over my belly. She cleaned the mess and I went for another shower.

By the way, I am in contact with a girl via MoMo who is working in a massage place close to Nanjing Dong Lu. I am chatting with her for a long time already (couple of months even when I am not in Shanghai). So the shop and her employment seem to be quite long term. However, since that area is well known for fakes and rip-offs I was hesitating to go there. Any positive experiences around that area? If I have the chance, I'll give it a try the next days.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;2002836]OMG. Thank you for the Nancy review. I almost pulled the trigger but definitely will NOT!

So you know, I am 45 YO man. Decent shape - 5'10"/175# and pretty decent looking.

Ladies I have seen from SNG:

BaoBao. She really looks NOTHING like her photos and stayed a total of 20 minutes. What more can I say?

Susan. Here is my biggest gripe. She really looks NOTHING like her photos! I love redheads and she showed up with blonde hair. WTF?

Lisa. She really looks NOTHING like her photos and smells of smoke. Her performance is about a 6 and looks - 5..[/QUOTE]Maria. Also does not match her pictures, is much older than claimed, pushing late 40's, and service is not so good. BBBJ is really just so so, not that enthusiastic at all. Wants to avoid CIM, spits / coughs up after just giving you a BJ in the bathroom without CIM. Good English is really her (only) strong point.

Purple. Agree the looks are not good at all, but at least the service was enthusiastic.

Rain. Has more girls to choose from and she weeds them out if their service is not so good as it is her business and reputation.

Hi Everybody,

Does anybody know which sauna club in Shanghai has the most Russian girls if any? Thank you.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2004014]"(most unsafe, please read [URL]https://www.poz.com/article/HIV-risk-25382-5829[/URL], although I can quote from the link: "As for anal sex, the most risky sex act in terms of HIV transmission, if an HIV-negative topthe insertive partnerand an HIV-positive bottom have unprotected sex, the chances of the top contracting the virus from a single encounter are 1 in 909 (or 0. 11 percent) if he's circumcised and 1 in 161 (or 0. 62 percent) if he's uncircumcised. And if an HIV-negative person bottoms for an HIV-positive top who doesn't use any protection but does ejaculate inside, the chances of HIV transmission are, on average, less than 2 percent. Specifically, it is 1. 43 percent, or 1 out of 70. If the guy pulls out before ejaculation, then the odds are 1 out of 154". These are scientific results. A lot of more facts worth reading and knowing.
[/QUOTE]These statistics are generated for a 'general population' whose sexual activity will normalize to a few times a week, not for sex workers active many times a day. The incidence of transmission will be significantly higher with this cohort.