Seoul

In Seoul on my first visit now, after Dubai, Bangkok and Jakarta this place is a struggle. Lot of the places in reviews (Kiss bangs) are closed now. At least I could not locate them. No sign boards in English is another major issue for foreigners here. Escort services charge a bomb, and massages are not common at all. Will try the Anma over the weekend as a last resort.

Definitely not a "must repeat" city for me.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2387542]I haven't been to the hill in eons, I don't even think I've been this year. Miari is still running, the mamasans are as aggressive as ever. Haven't been to Yeongdeungpo in years.

I'm now firmly in the SE Asia camp. It makes too much sense in terms of cost, ease of access from Korea, quality and variety of pussy. And you definitely know how I feel about Korea's escort scene LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LustyRodeo;2387495]Hello all,

My first post with this account.

Met a couple of girls online who gave their kakao ids and on chat, were offering FS for 150,000 full night and 3 hrs for 80,000. Tell a station to come to, book a motel and call them. Sounds too good to be true. Is it a scam?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a scam to me. 150 k KRW is the low end of what an officetel girl will make in 1 HR.

[QUOTE=LustyRodeo;2387495]Hello all,

My first post with this account.

Met a couple of girls online who gave their kakao ids and on chat, were offering FS for 150,000 full night and 3 hrs for 80,000. Tell a station to come to, book a motel and call them. Sounds too good to be true. Is it a scam?[/QUOTE]It's a scam.

Once you're in the motel, they'll ask you to transfer money to a bank account before the girl can be 'released' to come to you.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2387584]In Seoul on my first visit now, after Dubai, Bangkok and Jakarta this place is a struggle. Lot of the places in reviews (Kiss bangs) are closed now. At least I could not locate them. No sign boards in English is another major issue for foreigners here. Escort services charge a bomb, and massages are not common at all. Will try the Anma over the weekend as a last resort.

Definitely not a "must repeat" city for me.[/QUOTE]Seoul is a great place for many things, including mongering. The problem with mongering here is the cost and effort to access is nowhere near worth it, unless you're using the corporate card.

Haha. Corporate card, I wish!! .

BTW do the locals indulge / monger here? Was wondering if I should buddy up with some local in office to see the scene.

Also, are there any confirmed locations for kiss bang places? I tried calling a couple via opstar10 but had no luck with English.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2387737]Seoul is a great place for many things, including mongering. The problem with mongering here is the cost and effort to access is nowhere near worth it, unless you're using the corporate card.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2387584]In Seoul on my first visit now, after Dubai, Bangkok and Jakarta this place is a struggle. Lot of the places in reviews (Kiss bangs) are closed now. At least I could not locate them. No sign boards in English is another major issue for foreigners here. Escort services charge a bomb, and massages are not common at all. Will try the Anma over the weekend as a last resort.

Definitely not a "must repeat" city for me.[/QUOTE]Are you conversant in Korean? Generally speaking you need to be nearly fluent in order to go to Kiss Bangs and get your bang for your buck. And they have euphemistic signs at best, often none at all, that's how it works, you certainly don't go in and bargain as you would an anma, advertising is done online and booking over the phone. You cannot just come on over from abroad and think everything will fall in your lap.

Found that the hard way. Called listed number of kiss bangs from opstar website, and could not even talk to the person that received the call. Korean speaking is a must.

Going back to massagerepublic options now.

[QUOTE=Seoul2012;2387836]Are you conversant in Korean? Generally speaking you need to be nearly fluent in order to go to Kiss Bangs and get your bang for your buck. And they have euphemistic signs at best, often none at all, that's how it works, you certainly don't go in and bargain as you would an anma, advertising is done online and booking over the phone. You cannot just come on over from abroad and think everything will fall in your lap.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I can't help you with kiss bangs other than what you've been told. I don't know how long you're in the country for. If only for a few weeks, keep your dick in your hand till you leave (or visit the hill, Miari or Cheonho). Otherwise you'll end up paying 300 bucks for pussy and service that is worth 80 bucks at most.

If you're here more long term, keep to the aforementioned RLDs. Also start working on your korean language skills. By the time you start ordering food delivery on the phone, you'll be linguistically capable of arranging appointments at officetels, kiss bangs etc.

If you're still intent on spending 300 bucks on one round of sex, remember that same amount of money will get you a flight to Manila and accommodation for a weekend, where you have an unlimited supply of willing women, an extra 100 will get you Angeles City. And you'll be back at work on Monday morning with a massive grin on your face, ready to do it all again a few weeks later.

My 2 cents.

Agree, nothing beats SE Asia for value.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2387968]Dude, I can't help you with kiss bangs other than what you've been told. I don't know how long you're in the country for. If only for a few weeks, keep your dick in your hand till you leave (or visit the hill, Miari or Cheonho). Otherwise you'll end up paying 300 bucks for pussy and service that is worth 80 bucks at most.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMania;2387968]If you're still intent on spending 300 bucks on one round of sex, remember that same amount of money will get you a flight to Manila and accommodation for a weekend, where you have an unlimited supply of willing women, an extra 100 will get you Angeles City. And you'll be back at work on Monday morning with a massive grin on your face, ready to do it all again a few weeks later.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]It is good advice. I love Manila and for years my company sent me there twice a year. Amazing variety of beautiful women and while it isn't the cheapest play area, it is so much more affordable than Seoul. Plus in Manila, essentially all options are available for white dudes. I'm tired of anmas not being open to white clients. When I lived in Seoul about 14 years ago, anmas and rlds were cool with white guys.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2387727]It's a scam.

Once you're in the motel, they'll ask you to transfer money to a bank account before the girl can be 'released' to come to you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up. Evaded this luckily although I was wary at the unbelievable offer since the beginning.

Frustration drove me to ping a couple of MR girls. This one was very quick in replies and fixed up a meet in my hotel. She came in as planned after 11 pm. She was a smoker which I forgot to check while on emails. So DFK was out of question. I find it repulsive. After a quick shower for both, she gave a decent service overall. Tries hard to please, lot of moaning which did not seem completely made up. Great riding in WOT. Chatted with translation on the phones for a while before sending her off. MR rates are negotiable, with 2-3 days of emails had got her down to $200 which some might feel is still too high.

Realized Korean girls are sometimes more skinny than I like, her boobs were quite good. Could have used more flesh in the legs and back for my liking. Plan to try another couple before my trip ends in a few days.

I've been thinking about MR as an option if I can't find any anmas that will accept me. What drove your frustration with the Seoul scene?

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2389554]Frustration drove me to ping a couple of MR girls. This one was very quick in replies and fixed up a meet in my hotel. She came in as planned after 11 pm. She was a smoker which I forgot to check while on emails. So DFK was out of question. I find it repulsive. After a quick shower for both, she gave a decent service overall. Tries hard to please, lot of moaning which did not seem completely made up. Great riding in WOT. Chatted with translation on the phones for a while before sending her off. MR rates are negotiable, with 2-3 days of emails had got her down to $200 which some might feel is still too high.

Realized Korean girls are sometimes more skinny than I like, her boobs were quite good. Could have used more flesh in the legs and back for my liking. Plan to try another couple before my trip ends in a few days.[/QUOTE]

Went to the Yeongdeungpo RLD, its enroute from office to hotel. Did not really find much open or good. Really older ladies there, not even girls.

Called / messaged the opstar listings, no reply or lack of Korean conversation went nowhere. Saw a couple of Thai massage places around, called them but again no English.

Got some contacts via Badoo and Tinder, pinged them on Kakao but not sure of authenticity. I have used MR other places and have more confidence there. Finally went with MR.

Castle Anma is planned for weekend, hope it is the highlight of the trip.

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2389669]I've been thinking about MR as an option if I can't find any anmas that will accept me. What drove your frustration with the Seoul scene?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the additional details. Definitely let us know how Castle goes. From what I've read it is open to foreigners but you never know. I'd really like to get into some of the other anmas like Ga-in, donuts, or Tiffany. Seems to be Asian only places.

I lived in Seoul in 2006 and always had no issue with anmas in Gangnam and even then the RLDs had a good selection. Times change I guess.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2389887]Went to the Yeongdeungpo RLD, its enroute from office to hotel. Did not really find much open or good. Really older ladies there, not even girls.

Called / messaged the opstar listings, no reply or lack of Korean conversation went nowhere. Saw a couple of Thai massage places around, called them but again no English.

Got some contacts via Badoo and Tinder, pinged them on Kakao but not sure of authenticity. I have used MR other places and have more confidence there. Finally went with MR.

Castle Anma is planned for weekend, hope it is the highlight of the trip.[/QUOTE]