Angeles City

[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1322090]Forget about what others say does it happen to you or ANYONE on this forum. Can we discuss this, how often it happens because I believe its just another muth.

Althought others will argue this I think staying in nice hotel helps but even when I have stayed in shithouses its been the same which is contradicting I know but I feel like when in nicer place its lot easier.[/QUOTE]I agree with you McD.

Rare that it ever happens and if so a genuine reason. Most like to stay in a nice hotel and have breakfast. Some order a huge breakfast and then box to take home.

Now in other parts of the world (for example, UAE and with Russian / CIS ladies in particular) my friends have always had major problems (the girls bugger off when the guys are asleep and sometimes steal as well).

In PI the ladies like to stay IMHO and sometimes there are issues in getting them to leave before the next one arrives.

So if the girl wants to go early maybe she does not like the man. But is too 'ashamed and shy' to say anything about his attitude etc

Couple images of a quiet night on Fields.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1322090]Forget about what others say does it happen to you or ANYONE on this forum. Can we discuss this, how often it happens because I believe its just another muth.[/QUOTE]My experience is similar to yours and WR. Over the years, they have only run at sunup on occasion (and I've had several who either left right after the first pop, or wanted to). However, on my last 3 AC visits, I've sat at Kok's or Phillies and met multiple gents who complained bitterly of being in town for several weeks, and all of their girls getting the F out of the room at sunup. Comments were like: "Man I've had a dozen girls and not one has stayed into the morning. Its a pissoff you get her from the bar at 2am. Then buy her something to eat and go for a drink somewhere. THEN at 6am she's telling me about getting home to her son and I payed a 3000 barfine." Really fella, ALL of them?"Ya I have the worst &$% luck." For some gents, this is how they see AC. In June of 2010, a gent at Kokomo's was telling me a similar tale (think I reported it here) , saying it was his virgin trip to AC, he's planned a month's trip there, he'd found a cheap long-term rate at a hotel. He'd been there for 3 weeks, taken a girl most nights, and every girl either ran after the first pop or left at sunup; and he was never coming back to AC. He seemed like a nice chap in talking over a late lunch (and not pangit) ; I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1322406]Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?[/QUOTE]Maybe as he was staying at a cheap long term hotel. Girls do notice these things regardless of their social status. Girl I know in Cebu says that some oif the Japanese / Koreans may pay well but they stay in s*tholes. So they want to get out of there as fast as possible.

Now. If you have a reasonable hotel or better they like to stay for breakfast. Although at times when the guest brings the LB to breakfast (as reported before) you may wish they did leave at 6am LOL

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1322406]I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?[/QUOTE]Guys often seem great to other guys, the guy isn't paying to fuck us. So he doesn't have expectation / demands. But the way SOME guys treat the bar girls. Is much different.

I'd say anyone who is in AC on a LONG term and MOST of the girls are runners has a significant problem.

These girls sleep / live in the miserable conditions. Many on bunk beds with no mattress, just the slates. Or the floor. No AC. Probably no music or TV. No hot water, and ramen noodles for breakfast on a GOOD day.

If a guy treats the girl with the least bit of a decent / nice way and she does NOT have a [B]legitimate[/B] Reason to leave.

99% would not leave a comfortable bed, able to watch TV (their favorite pass time) , a [B]HOT[/B] Shower, possible breakfast and / or a GOOD tip in the morning.

One or two girls leave. Sure. There will always be a girl or two that just might not vibe with a guy no matter what.

But when it becomes the MAJORITY of the girls you take, especially with the conditions they live. The guy need to look at himself and the way he treats the girls.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1322427]Maybe as he was staying at a cheap long term hotel. Girls do notice these things regardless of their social status. Girl I know in Cebu says that some oif the Japanese / Koreans may pay well but they stay in s*tholes. So they want to get out of there as fast as possible.[/QUOTE]I can fall for some of that Roger. The hotel can make a difference. But not all of the time, and not with a dozen girls straight. I've stayed in nice places, average places, and sh*tholes, and I've had girls sleep in and then stay for late breakfast and the mall and the afternoon at all of those (and some have left at sunup). AC bargirls are usually provincial girls who are used to living in a sh*thole. Another mistake gents make (or not, depending on your outlook) is that they don't make clear the expectation (say, she stays until 9am, or such) [I]before [/I]barfining the girl.

The last time I was in Manila (which was a long, long time ago) many of the dancing bargirls were topless on stage. I will be in Angeles City at the end of the year and was wondering if I am likely to see any topless performances by the Fields Avenue girls?

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1321942]Arrived in AC earlier this week. On the first night I walked along Perimeter and Fields just to try and put the information of this forum into context. So many bar names, places etc. Still ealy days for me in Philippines. I also had a short list of names of Tagged ladies whom wanted to catch up.[/QUOTE]I tried to PM you but couldn't. I will be there again in October and have been unsuccessful getting contacts so far through Tagged. Mind sharing their Tagged I'd's and housemaid's contact?

Hope you can PM me.

Day 8, Saturday: Cebu / Angeles.

It's a great feeling spending the night cuddled up to a gorgeous young girl. I was concerned that she might attempt to leave first thing in the morning, without any sex, but I needn't have worried.

She woke and we were soon kissing. She was a good kisser and before long our hands were stroking each other. She had small tits but her nipples were erect. Her pussy was wet so I inserted a finger and slowly fingered her as we continued to kiss. After a while I was erect, so I rolled a condom on, climbed on top and slid inside. Her pussy was tight and we had the kind of 'girlfriend sex' I'd been craving, with lots of kissing and eye contact. We fucked in a variety of positions including her on top, slowly grinding her hips on mine. After a while she put both feet on the bed and rode me in 'Asian cowgirl', bouncing up and down on my dick as she closed her eyes tightly. I usually like to climax with the girl on top but I flipped her over in one movement and fucked her hard in missionary, her ankles on my shoulders. She groaned as I pounded her pussy hard until I came. It was a fantastic session with a truly gorgeous girl, one of the top 10 girls I've met in Asia.

We cuddled for half an hour before she showered and got changed. I took some photos and slipped her a generous tip before she left. What a girl. If I was staying in Cebu for longer I would have got her mobile number and arranged to meet again.

My flight to Clark was late afternoon. During the one hour flight I saw one of the prettiest stewardess I have ever seen. She had an amazing face with sexy slanty eyes so I tried to photograph her when the cabin crew did their usual mid-flight games. The photo was blurred and didn't capture her beauty but if I could bar-fine any girls as pretty in Angeles, I'the be happy. I was excited to be returning to the 'Gogo Capital of the World'. There are many bars and thousands of girls. I met some stunners there two years ago and along with Pattaya in Thailand, it is Asia's 'supermarket of sex'.

From Clark Airport I got a taxi to Fields Avenue and walked to my favourite hotel, APPARTELLE. It doesn't look promising from the outside as it's just a door sandwiched between two gogo bars, but you climb stairs to the reception and the rooms are spacious and surprisingly quiet. My Standard Room cost 1450 pesos per night and had cable TV, a well-stocked mini-bar and, best of all, a large mirror next to the bed. Executive Rooms are 1990 pesos and a Jacuzzi Room is 2490 pesos. It was 8. 30pm so I had a quick wash and went to Jollibee for a snack. I wanted to get to the gogo bars as soon as possible.

It was 9pm when I entered ATLANTIS, the standout bar two years ago. There were 60 girls on stage, firing balloons at customers and the place had a party atmosphere. I got chatting with the manager, also from England, who ordered me a free drink. He told me that prices have stayed the same in Atlantis for years, the only thing to go up is the price of drinks (125 pesos for a San Miguel) to keep away 'cheap Charlies'. Wishfully I looked for 'China Doll', a beautiful girl I'd bar-fined twice two years ago. She was the most affectionate girl I've ever met on my travels and, as an added bonus, also had the biggest natural tits. Sadly I couldn't see her.

The girls were all young and lots were pretty. They wore number tags and were separated in to those you could bar-fine for 3000 pesos and those that cost 1800. I saw a gorgeous girl nearby (2397) but she was with a middle-aged Korean man. On stage I spotted a 10/10 doing a sexy dance routine. She had fair hair and a dazzling face but a waitress told me that she was already with a customer (surprise surprise, another Korean). Missing out on good-lookers to Koreans is what I call 'early bird syndrome' (the early bird catches the worm). I made a note of her number (2850) and decided that I'd return to Atlantis tomorrow to buy her a drink.

Next I went to CRYSTAL PALACE. It's like a smaller version of Atlantis with 40 girls crowded on stage and more girls stood on a balcony above. All girls were young and a number of them were cute. I didn't see any 8/10's or higher but there were some nice bodies and the place had a fun atmosphere. My San Miguel cost 95 pesos and there was a two-tiered bar-fine of 1800/3000 pesos depending on the girl.

TROPIX was busy with customers and at 10. 50pm there were 40 girls on stage. There were some cuties but the problem with seeing a 10/10 early in the night is that the bar is set high. To bar-fine a girl from Tropix is good value at 1500/1800 pesos. At one point an eccentric white-haired Japanese man wearing a high-visibility vest walked up to the stage and made a penis shape out of one of the balloons. The girls all laughed but security ushered him away.

DOLLHOUSE was another of my favourites two years ago. It has tiered seating surrounding a circular stage and is a good bet to find pretty girls. There was a 'catwalk show' when I entered and when it finished another set of girls did an impressive dance routine involving metal rings. Every fifteen minutes something new happens so it's a good way to see the talent on offer. I noticed a pretty blond perched on a stool next to the stage, next to a tall girl with great legs. The bar-fine is either 1800 or 3000 pesos which seems the going rate for the bigger bars in Angeles. The only drawback of Dollhouse is that there is too much pressure to buy lady-drinks.

At 11. 15pm I entered FORBIDDEN CITY. It is similar in layout to Atlantis but there is far more pressure to buy lady-drinks. Within a minute of taking my seat, a waitress sat next to me and asked for a drink. There were about 50 girls on stage and the quality was good. Girls slid down a firemans pole from the balcony above and the bar-fine is 2000/3000 pesos. At one point the DJ introduced 'the Cherry Girls' and four fresh-faced young girls walked on stage and shuffled self-consciously to 'Like A Virgin'. One was very cute. These girls can be bar-fined but you can't have sex with them.

It was great to be back on Fields Avenue. Pretty 'Hello Girls' called 'hello mister' as I walked past and the place was a blaze of neon and music. Vendors walked past carrying trays filled with items ranging from chewing gum to viagra, peanuts to large cuddly toys, while sexy 'Promo Girls' from Perimeter Road bars handed out flyers for 'happy hour'. Young freelancers, always walking in pairs, tried to catch my eye. I considered going back to Atlantis to see if the 10/10 girl was free but I knew it would be a waste of time. She'd be in bed with her Korean customer by now.

PASHA is a smaller bar but sometimes I prefer intimate venues. 20 girls were crowded on stage and every minute they all shuffled to the side, meaning I got a great view of all of the girls. When they left the stage (to be replaced by 20 more girls) , they paraded in single file around the bar giving me a close-up view of their faces. They were all young and I saw a few pretty ones. To take a girl from Pasha you have to buy them a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. In effect, you're paying their bar-fine. It's just a way for the bar to cover their back as in recent years bars have been raided in Angeles and closed down as sex venues.

It was getting late. I went to CAROUSEL, one of the must-visit bars. 40 girls were on a rotating stage, like a merry-go-round, and three of them caught my eye. One had a very pretty face but looked too serious, another had a perfect figure and hair down to her waist and the third was the youngest with a fresh-faced appeal. I bought a San Miguel (95 pesos) and two 'Tequila Girls' in sexy red outfits and fishnet stockings asked if I wanted to buy the waitress on my table a shot. One was very pretty and her hair was tied up in a side ponytail. Waitresses and 'Tequila Girls' can also be bar-fined for a 2000 peso bottle of 'Party Animal'. After seeing the 10/10 in Atlantis though, I was on the hunt for perfection.

There were about 75 girls in BLUE NILE. Some danced on stage, the sexiest danced on the tables but most were sat on couches at the side. I bought a beer and was joined by a blond girl in a dress that left little to the imagination. Although she was older than the rest and had the look of a hard-faced pro, she had a slim body and danced suggestively. I felt myself getting hard as she grinded against me. I bought her a lady-drink (250 pesos) but she had a bad attitude. I asked her about the bar-fine and she said 'no need to shout' (I had to raise my voice to be heard over the loud music). Another time I asked her to repeat something she said and she snapped 'listen this time' like I was a naughty schoolkid! The bar-fine for the girls on stage was 2000, those on tables cost 2500 and apparently she was the only girl who cost 3000.

Suddenly I felt tired after a long day and a few too many beers, so I decided to go back to my hotel. My intention had been to visit plenty of bars and I'd achieved that. A girl would have been a bonus but I wasn't desperate after my session with Rosalyn earlier. I was glad to be back in Angeles. It's an exciting, vibrant place with many pretty girls. I slept well.

Answer NO.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1322748]Answer NO.[/QUOTE]On the bottom, various types of bikini bottoms, shorts, or sarongs. On top is usually a bikini top. No topless in AC, I think.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1322739]After seeing the 10/10 in Atlantis though, I was on the hunt for perfection...... [later] Suddenly I felt tired after a long day and a few too many beers, so I decided to go back to my hotel. [/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me on the first night I visited AC. I had just spent 5 nights in Macau shagging Chinese stunners. I arrived in AC late, around midnight, and went hunting. My target was a Filipina 10. Like you, I hit the most likely spots: Atlantis, Blue Nile, Golden Nile, and Crystal Palace and had similar results. I threw in the towel around 1:45am and retired to the ABC alone. Oh, the Walk of Shame! LOL. Next day I adjusted my sights and as a result had a great time the rest of my stay. I now look for above average (6* to 7*) girl next door gone bad types who are up for a good time and willing to give me the GFE. These girls are what AC is best for and why I am coming back for my third trip in February.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1322406]My experience is similar to yours and WR. Over the years, they have only run at sunup on occasion (and I've had several who either left right after the first pop, or wanted to). However, on my last 3 AC visits, I've sat at Kok's or Phillies and met multiple gents who complained bitterly of being in town for several weeks, and all of their girls getting the F out of the room at sunup. Comments were like: "Man I've had a dozen girls and not one has stayed into the morning. Its a pissoff you get her from the bar at 2am. Then buy her something to eat and go for a drink somewhere. THEN at 6am she's telling me about getting home to her son and I payed a 3000 barfine." Really fella, ALL of them?"Ya I have the worst &$% luck." For some gents, this is how they see AC. In June of 2010, a gent at Kokomo's was telling me a similar tale (think I reported it here) , saying it was his virgin trip to AC, he's planned a month's trip there, he'd found a cheap long-term rate at a hotel. He'd been there for 3 weeks, taken a girl most nights, and every girl either ran after the first pop or left at sunup; and he was never coming back to AC. He seemed like a nice chap in talking over a late lunch (and not pangit) ; I don't think his personality was driving girls away. Why does this man have such a vastly different experience than many others?[/QUOTE]because it crap. I think people just like to complain sometimes. I really find it hard to believe that anyone would have such luck in AC. I can understand making rookie mistakes on your frist trip but even that happens within limits. AC is one of the easiest places in the world to learn and understand and the system is stright forward.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;1322522]The last time I was in Manila (which was a long, long time ago) many of the dancing bargirls were topless on stage. I will be in Angeles City at the end of the year and was wondering if I am likely to see any topless performances by the Fields Avenue girls?[/QUOTE]Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeter

Where are they?

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1322801]Not on fields or perimeter. Other Filipino bars have full nudity at times but they are not walking distance from fields / perimeter[/QUOTE]