Seoul

[QUOTE=RainMania;2397573]It's a mixture of ignorance, racism and xenophobia, even if you speak the language.

Some bookers will be patient with you if they know your language skills are poor. If you ask them to text you the address and instructions, they usually do. Other bookers wont be as patient and would rather not bother to deal with you, business is that good for them.

The general trend goes like this:

*Korean and fluent in korean - 100% chance.

*SE Asian customer who can pass for korean and can speak korean - 80% acceptable.

*SE Asian customer who can pass for korean but can't speak korean - 70% chance if you somehow manage to get through the hoops (this also applies to gyopos and East Asian visitors).

*White western customer who speaks korean. Around 35% chance.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the breakdown, very helpful!

Officetels sound great but not enough guarantee for me to put in that efforts. If anybody has had success with a sponsor and on CL and wouldn't mind sharing their secret, I'd love to learn from you.

Anything that offers full service with Koreans is notoriously hard to get into for westerners. Put simply Korean men do not want to see foreign guys with their women.

Each establishment is different; for geonmas, lip cafes, hugaetels, the foyer, lounge and shower room offer ample chance for customers to by pass each other, the establishments can get a really bad name with their clientel if they are seen to be accepting foreign customers.

L speak Korean (TOPIK level 4, old system) and flat out get rejected when l ring up full saloons, shirt rooms, anmas and OPs. Language is not an issue. Some anmas will play ball with you if you go during unsociable hours and agree to pay the foreigner surcharge. Ones that play ball always go the same way: size, nationality, surcharge.

Also, where are you getting this info that ops are "on the way out"? There are plenty of them LOL and loads of Korean girls working at them if their adverts are anything to believe.

[QUOTE=Seoul2012;2397837]Also, where are you getting this info that ops are "on the way out"? There are plenty of them LOL and loads of Korean girls working at them if their adverts are anything to believe.[/QUOTE]I'm comparing the number of advertisements from 5 years ago. The # of advert's today has seriously gone down when I compare it to back then. Yeah there still are a bunch, but it's way, way down. From talking with other Koreans, previously if a booker was caught it was just a fine and no jail time, but now they are sentencing people to do time.

Hope I'm not breaking any rules but follow up on my own previous post. I've gotten a fair amount of responses from my CL ads from Korean, Filipina, and euro girls looking for short term sponsorship. Anywhere from 150-225 k an hour. Not cheap but also not as high as foreigners at anmas.

For the experienced Seoul guys, what are the chances these responses and conversations are some sort of sting op from Korean law enforcement? Maybe that's crazy but would seem like an easy way to bust businessmen and travellers no?

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2397662]Officetels sound great but not enough guarantee for me to put in that efforts. If anybody has had success with a sponsor and on CL and wouldn't mind sharing their secret, I'd love to learn from you.[/QUOTE]

Often find cards around hotels with girls photo and phone number. Never tried but any take from someone who has? What kind of experience did you have? Please share?

They existed when I lived there 15-16 years ago. I used to try calling but there was no English on the other end and no interest in serving a non-Korean client.

[QUOTE=MrTarzan;2398415]Often find cards around hotels with girls photo and phone number. Never tried but any take from someone who has? What kind of experience did you have? Please share?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2397182]Fair point but for someone like me who will only be in Seoul for a short time and has a bad case of yellow fever, these MR girls will do the trick. I love anmas and went to them on a weekly basis 15 years ago but now it sounds like frustration and disappointment going there and maybe not even getting in.

In other news, found a girl advertising on CL looking for a sponsor. Blonde Euro bird. Intriguing but certainly not cheap. Quoted 300 k for two shots.[/QUOTE]What section in CL?

You have to post in jobs or gigs.

CL will flag it probably within a day but if you haven't gotten any hits by then, you can just post another.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2399921]What section in CL?[/QUOTE]

Yumi.

Jesus Christ almighty. Never again. L saw Yumi from Massage Republic, wants 350,000 an hour, she was minging (British for 'ugly' no makeup or anything. I cancelled on the spot, she wanted the whole fee, l laughed and got the heck out of there pronto. She is another gyopo, full on Yank, be warned. The cheek and temerity of her to demand that kind of money is a joke.

Desperate days on the independent scene for sure.

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2400168]You have to post in jobs or gigs.

CL will flag it probably within a day but if you haven't gotten any hits by then, you can just post another.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the update, TT.

Yikes. Yeah the scene in Seoul is severely lacking, however, if you have a little patience, the Craigslist thing pays off. Had some fun with a Korean, ridiculously hot Russian, fun Colombian, and a Chinese American. All from CL responses, 150-200 k for the hour. I did overpay for Castle Anma but I wanted the anma experience and honestly the girl was a great lay.

[QUOTE=Seoul2012;2400530]Yumi.

Jesus Christ almighty. Never again. L saw Yumi from Massage Republic, wants 350,000 an hour, she was minging (British for 'ugly' no makeup or anything. I cancelled on the spot, she wanted the whole fee, l laughed and got the heck out of there pronto. She is another gyopo, full on Yank, be warned. The cheek and temerity of her to demand that kind of money is a joke.

Desperate days on the independent scene for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2400868]Yikes. Yeah the scene in Seoul is severely lacking, however, if you have a little patience, the Craigslist thing pays off. Had some fun with a Korean, ridiculously hot Russian, fun Colombian, and a Chinese American. All from CL responses, 150-200 k for the hour. I did overpay for Castle Anma but I wanted the anma experience and honestly the girl was a great lay.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, l saw what you wrote below before, will check it out.

Get the message out, stay clear of Massage Republic, like Rainmania and others have warned. The women l have met there would get the graveyard shift at a Geonma (massage shop) but nothing else.

I was talking with some people on KakaoTalk that I got contacted with through some sites on the Korean net like "Sex World", ect that advertise outcall massages to your apartment or hotel room.

Basically I was talking to them and they said foreigners okay since I could speak some Korean apparently.

Anyone know anything about outcall options like this in Seoul? I know it's out there for sure since Japanese dudes always get girls delivered to their hotel rooms. Anyone know if Sex World or the like are legit outcall agencies?

I used a thai outcall massage in the past but have lost the contact. They had 2-3 average but young providers offering a decent massage and happy ending for something like 100 k + tip. No FS available.

Anyone has a contact for similar service (any nationality ok).