Nairobi

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1123019]It is my very sad duty to report that Nairobi is not longer a premier mongering destination. I have decided to bite the bullit and face reality. I accept that many will trenchantly disagree with me and will make incisive counter arguments.

However, things have changed so much in the last 10 years in Nairobi that it is just not worth visiting anymore.

There are so few places to go now in the City. Gone are the two primary hunting grounds of Buffalo Bills and the Bavarian Hotel. Never to be replaced. Where hundreds of pretty amateur girls congregated in Florida 2000 now one only finds tired wornout camels.

You can now go to Simmers. All tough weatherbeaten pros and New Florida. All tough weatherbeaten pros. I fucked them all 10 years ago. The all sit on the same stools.

Black Diamond in Westlands is a great new disco. Lovely openair terrace but regrettably just hosting the best of the pros of Simmers and Floridas- and asking for big money in the leafy salubrious confines of Westlands.

Nairobi has in the region of 8 Universities now. They churn out thousands of graduates each year. They are all professional people and no longer desperately need of the sugar daddies of old. You will get the very odd drunken or cunning exception.

And please. The posts on the Nairobi forum have become so tedious and boring that I am turning to drink to sedate my nerves.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Rafikis but the truth must be told. Thats why we come to this site. We seek the truth.

If anyone. And I'm sure there will be many building a scaffold for me. Wish to dispute. Then let them name just one. Just one place in Nairobi during daylight hours where one can buy and beer and peruse willing amateur or semi pros.

So raise a Toast to Nairobi as we mourn her passing. Boo Hoo![/QUOTE]Sadly, you have a point. At least you experienced the good times. Black Diamond is the best but you are right in its description. This is why I only stay a couple of days in Nairobi before moving to the coast or to other pastures new.

Where do you think these girls have gone? Are they looking for Mzungu sausage more on the coast?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1123197]Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.[/QUOTE]I did the Afro test in several countries over several years. Last in 2009 in Uganda and Kenya. I met several girls. Most were working. 2 of them I met at work. I was a "hairdresser", but met me in the afternoon, fucked me silly for two hours and left without wanting taxi money and knowing she wouldn't see me again. One was a hardcore hooker with a fake photo, so kicked her out immediately.

One of the office girls just wanted me to bring her a vibrator, which I gladly did. The other office girl just asked me to buy her a girl for lesbian fun, which I also did,

Of course it took time to sort ut the good from the bad. Of course I wasn't searching in hookers paradise Mombasa.

That said I also had several prostitutes. Then it was clear from the beginning that I would pay. Like everywhere.

But it is defanitely possible to score for free (of course you pay for food and drinks) for a few days in Kenya. But I guess only if you also have some game in your home country.

Hello,

Kenya is great and kenyan girls are even better.

I met my wife at Afro. Very nice slim girl with no children. Good job where she makes around 150 000 ksh per month. I know that several of her female collegues would be very happy to meet nice muzungus up to 50 years old as long as they are well behaved and have some money.

I also met Afri women in Uganda and in different european countries. Always a nice way to find beautiful freebies and most know how to fuck!

Africa is the last paradise for muzungus where you can find well educated, beautiful girl just for being a nice white guy.

Enjoy!

There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every initial sexual coupling. In fact, only those which begin with a man and a prostitute (or a woman and her gigolo) and progress to LTR would fit this model.

Now, if all intimate, long-term relationships are power / financially based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1123571]There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every sexual coupling.

Now, if all intimate relationships are power / financial based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest. [/QUOTE]As 'Donnachaa' quite rightly mentioned onwards with enthralling adventures on love safari. 'Willyboy' in his own unique and entertaining way is just saying be careful out there and the health warning is with regards most Kenyan girls and their sisters wherever you maybe in the world but note not all. Mere realism, when a young hottie is with an older mzungu. When some of the guys used to come and visit me in South America and new / not sure about the P4P scene, I used to say to them what is more expensive free sex or paid for sex and they soon understood. These girls on Afro, if given the opportunity to find a chink in your armour are trying to play for much higher stakes. Even if it only ends up with drinks, nice meal, movie and cab fare this is still more than pulling and paying for a hottie as a one off and playing hide the sausage with her! Any girlfriend or wife worth her salt will always cost you considerably more. My ex wife topped the charts on how much sex cost with her on average per event in between headaches and I am still paying to this day without any of the benefits!

I don't see any logic explaining your position to the member because this debate,

From the early life of this website, will hold forever. No winners no losers and clearly no logic!

The camp of guys that don't pay like myself are generally get artillery fire from others that pays.

So the best thing is to leave out of the forum. Its complex issue and logic is the last variable in the equation.

Anyway I like to thanks again for the "afro" idea. It will be tested next week in Uganda follows by a reports.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1123197]Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.[/QUOTE]So what the ladies you find on certain websites, in nightclubs and beaches are cheap. Isn't that what you're looking for? Easy going, cooperative, cheap company and sex with no strings attached.

Malayas will always follow the mongerer and visa versa, that doesn't say that there are no sincere non- or semi professional girls out here. After tagged now also Afro is stuffed with malayas, what dating site next?

Afro probably started with some serious girls and now it gets flooded with malayas too, obviously because mongerers discovered Afro. The fact where you find malayas on Afro doesn't mean that, because you found them there, all of them are just the same. Probably this dating site started with a number of sincere girls, they find mongerers looking for semi or non-prof, than proffessional malayas looking for mongerer finds Afro and there we go, they are all malayas!

I won't deny the percentage of what is considered prostitutes in western perspective is very high but people are different, you can not generalize if among thousands there is even one sincere girl. How do you approach girls and do you count the ones that never replied?

Isn't it the same with us mongerers. We operate from different motivations, we have different ages, different approach. One pays too much, the other pays nothing at all, one is happy to be offered free sex, the other insist he pays. Some of us are old, some are athletic and young, some enjoy other features of Kenya while others hate the country and just come to fuck. I prefer non. Or semi professional, the other chooses hard core malaya. Can a Kenyan say we are all the same?

No matter what kind of girl you're looking for, you will find her in Kenya. Only if you're looking for a sincere girl, the 'market' is getting tight and do not assume your money will buy everything. You can get a malaya, you can get a semi-prof very easy, a smile will do, but when it comes to a sincere girls, stop looking on the tourist beaches, bars and nightclubs, tagged, Afro and places where other mongerers are looking for malaya and malaya are looking for mzungu money. If you're looking for an innocent girl for cheap sex, keep on dreaming guys, the fake malayas follow wherever you step and the shy sincere girls don't even get the chance to talk to you.

It's a service for money or expectation thing.

You can't judge a malaya for asking money for a service. What you top up on dinner and drinks is your own choice, you wand sex only or you also wand their company? Didn't you already know they might expect something to pay the rent, to buy chapatti or milk for the child? It is fair guys.

If that's too much to ask, why come to a country where as a mzungu you can feel good being appreciated by just being yourself and get the best fuck, company or not, for the cheapest money.

Better watch out, these forums are full with warnings about cheeky girls looking for 'serious relationship' with western union mzungu while they just keep on fucking around with fellow mongerers and boyfriends. Now it seems it's us against them in terms of sincerity. You can not blame a girl for dreaming of a better life, why do you think they start to do prostitution, really to stay hungry but at least sexually satisfied? Aren't all women all over world ambitions and why should that be different in Kenya!

Fact is, you come to Kenya for sex, you will what you wand, so don't complain if you're just getting what you're paying for and what you're looking for. It's a service for a service, not us against them.

Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1126046]Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.[/QUOTE]Well you know what to say, when writing to her and don't hold back. I have had a look at Afro recently and most of the good looking ones, I have spotted selling their pussy in some joint or other. Maybe a good idea to say," I actually meant 200 KES"! One of those who thinks you are not only the froth on one cup of capuccino but probably the whole month's worth from a well known coffee outlet. I am looking forward to next week in Black Diamond. There are always one or two there who try it on. Don't get me wrong still the best place in Nairobi, just adds to the entertainment.

Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

Pete

[QUOTE=Petepunter; 1127239]Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

Pete[/QUOTE]NOT go to hotel 680, mistake.

I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?

B,

Go to Mombasa if you can, it's no point in staying 5 days in Nairobi if you really want to have pussy only. Take a short flight to Mombasa, low as 40USD one way and book a hotel close to the action. Nairobi is expensive, and most of the girls are pretty spoiled IMHO. In Mombasa you will get more action for your cash.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Biffa;1135275]I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Biffa;1135275]I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?[/QUOTE]Nairobi is too much damned effort these days. And prices are getting silly. If you just want pussy, then there is much more on offer, and more variety, in Mombasa.

If you do stay in Nbi (and it IS a great place) go out of the town centre. There are some great street-girls on Argwings Khodek Road (if you want to save buying drinks first). About 200 metres away from the petrol satation, heading towards the Ya-YA, you'll usually find a really hot Luo babe called Mary (she's the one in the business suit at 9:00pm). She's 30 something, but goes all night long for 3, 000bob. There are also some very young girls on that street (too young to get into clubs).

There are still a lot of great girls / women in Roasters on Thika Road, which is much more relaxed than the places in town. Or if its the weekend, and you are into slightly more mature women, go up to the Blue Posts in Thika. If you meet a couple of cousins called Margaret and Elizabeth, who are often there on a Saturday, you had better be in good condition!

Or, you could head up-country. Best hunting ground in Kenya is still The White Rhino in Nyeri. If you can't score in that bar, you are never going to score anywhere. And at the weekend you are spoiled for choice. Or Nakuru. The Kuntse is a well-named hotel if you want a couple of young hot Masaai babes (but ask to see some I'd. A couple are mature looking, but on the dodgy side of legal). Or the Stem Hotel if you are looking for some mature action.

Ah, Kenya. When's my next leave due?

Sounds interesting, quick googlemaps check shows the Silver Springs Hotel at the end of that road.

Is that a monger friendly, or too upmarket? (in Africa?)

If I've only a couple of days this sounds like a good hunting area.