Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1672862]For those of us who have been doing oilies since the Baron's and early Tulip days, the bar for performance is quite high. So many of the current gals just don't live up to the standards set by gals like Nong, Yok, Nestle, etc. And some of the original Mango gals like Bo who not only had amazing skills but went at it each and every session like it was the last thing they would ever do. I miss those days when I could walk into a PSE establishment knowing I was going to get amazingly skilled service provided with enthusiasm every time, no matter which gal I chose. Just not the case at all anymore.[/QUOTE]I really think you expect way to much. The reason for a forum is to publish which girls perform reliably, and those that don't. Its a pity when guys discuss far too much other irrelevant crap. There will always be ones that don't perform to your particular liking. What you like may well be very different to what I like. YMMV depending on chemistry with the girl. They are not all Robots.

What's more Aey at Annies states that some girls give poor service, but cannot be fired due to being very popular with customers that have a completely different style. Aey just doesn't recommend these girls for the average customer.

Get used it. Service levels vary. Even in the days of the famous girls at Tulip, I had the odd weak session with some other girl. Name escapes me now, but yeh, shit happens. New girls may be inexperienced. I had a crap session with Vodka (was it? - not remembering too clearly now) at Cherry some time back. She was tired and completely unmotivated. Sure I was disappointed but allow for the possibility that she might perform well sometimes with some guys. She seemed skill-less at the time. Looks were not too special for me either. Average.

My solution is to collect girls that always perform consistently well for me, and be contented. Get used to reality.

My favourite bargirl in SW was very lacklustre on the bed the first time. Seems she was not keen on my and influenced by some gossip. I was disappointed. Some months later I detected a big change in her attitude to me and that it seemed she now decided she liked me. I tried her a 2nd time and she was vastly better on the bed. The lesson is that not all girls are Robots (like Bo) and sometimes they have to actually like you in order to give their best performance. Money was not sufficient motivation, especially when the girl can get lots of customers very easily due to extraordinary looks. Maybe this is why some guys claim that very pretty girls perform poorly. Sometimes they are just not motivated.

With my best girl right now (not the bargirl), there is a strong intimacy developing that adds to the experience, so that now she feels virtually like my 2nd GF. She gives me preference and I give her preference in return. No one can out perform her in any department. She welcomes me to just start fucking her while she is still sleeping. Its a nice way for her to wake up, she says. I was looking for a girl with this attitude the whole life. LOL I feel I am getting her best performance because she likes me and we have a good chemistry.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1672931]Isn't it odd that a line of work that requires considerable physical and social skills to perform well does not come with a standardized orientation and job training program that ensures workers have the basic skills needed to perform the job at a high standard. It would not be very difficult to create a job training program. A laptop with a good collection of porn flicks, a realistic dildo formed to look like an erect male penis, a knowledgeable and experienced mentor and a motivated apprentice are all you need.
[/QUOTE]Paul,

You should know that shops like Tulip, Mango, etc. Do have training for new girls with not much experience (or did have when I last discussed such topics with a girl. Maybe some time ago). You have to allow though for variations in natural ability and how fast girls learn. No amount of training will fix a dud girl. The really dud girls will either leave quickly or be kicked out before too long from the shops trying to maintain a service level, but initially the shop will not know that a girl is crap for all customers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1674028]I really think you expect way to much. The reason for a forum is to publish which girls perform reliably, and those that don't. Its a pity when guys discuss far too much other irrelevant crap. There will always be ones that don't perform to your particular liking. What you like may well be very different to what I like. YMMV depending on chemistry with the girl. They are not all Robots.

What's more Aey at Annies states that some girls give poor service, but cannot be fired due to being very popular with customers that have a completely different style. Aey just doesn't recommend these girls for the average customer.

Get used it. Service levels vary. Even in the days of the famous girls at Tulip, I had the odd weak session with some other girl. Name escapes me now, but yeh, shit happens. New girls may be inexperienced.

My solution is to collect girls that always perform consistently well for me, and be contented. Get used to reality.[/QUOTE]The problem is Syn, reality has changed and keeps changing for the worse. There are fewer and fewer gals that perform. Again, in the Baron's and early Tulip days the vast majority of the gals in the shop performed. There were very few "duds. " There was very little YMMV at that point. Your above statement is in agreement with what I am stating. You had the "odd weak session. " It was rare to have a weak session. 9 out of 10 at Tulip were outstanding. Now we have the odd amazing session.

Irrelevant? The fact that girls don't perform as they used to? I think that is very relevant. Perhaps with a little urging from the members on this forum, the owners, managers, and mamasans will again take the time to ensure that skill sets are up to par and the new ladies are aware of what they are getting into.

Some of us like variety as opposed to taking the same gals over and over again, and like to know that we will be satisfied most all of the time. That is why we go to oilies as opposed to taking FLs or GoGo gals, where there is really no standard of performance.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1674032]Paul,

You should know that shops like Tulip, Mango, etc. Do have training for new girls with not much experience (or did have when I last discussed such topics with a girl. Maybe some time ago). You have to allow though for variations in natural ability and how fast girls learn. No amount of training will fix a dud girl. The really dud girls will either leave quickly or be kicked out before too long from the shops trying to maintain a service level, but initially the shop will not know that a girl is crap for all customers.[/QUOTE]I don't think they are kicking out girls who don't perform. Why? Because quite a few are still there. Numbers however are turning in our favor. There were 19 gals working in Mango today and over 15 in Snow White. I was told that most gals are not getting the number of customers that they would like. So there is a little incentive to knock the socks off the customers you do get so they will repeat.

There are three things at play here: skill sets, attitude, and enthusiasm. You can't teach enthusiasm. The gal either has it or she doesn't. Skill sets can be taught. The perfect example of a gal who has very little enthusiasm left but still has an amazing skill set is Golf at Tulip. She obviously has very little gusto left for the job after the meters and meters of penis she has taken, but she still gives one hell of a BJ and can screw with the best of them. Enthusiasm is a nice bonus, but really when it comes down to it the session is about me. I am the paying customer and the focus is on my pleasure. In order to achieve that a good skill set needs to be present. A good attitude is important as well. Perhaps more important to me than enthusiasm and less than skills. We should never forget, its a business and these gals are providing a service for us.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1674038]Irrelevant? The fact that girls don't perform as they used to? I think that is very relevant. Perhaps with a little urging from the members on this forum, the owners, managers, and mamasans will again take the time to ensure that skill sets are up to par and the new ladies are aware of what they are getting into.
[/QUOTE]You misunderstand. By "irrelevant" I was not referring to this or any other mongering topic post. I was referring to numerous posts in the Bangkok thread that have nothing to do with particular girls, establishments, or mongering in general. Just general chat. Like the Bangkok Thread has been taken over by non-mongering topics. I would like to see a lot more reports on particular girls or places for mongering.

As for Oilies, I don't think there is any standard of performance there either. The exception maybe the specific "PSE shops". I hadn't been using PSE shops that much lately due to difficulty to find the looks. However I have noticed a big improvement in looks of girls recently at Mango, so maybe I should keep trying. I had not visited Mango for far too long Since Cat's and Cherry's time there due to weak line ups for a while, for looks. Being highly looks motivated, a PSE athletic performance from a girl like Bo is not enough for me any more. Never saw her again since the sillies. Tried Cheer, but despite her best efforts, I was bored. Dao did not have the looks to really keep me interested, and never ever tried Nestle who looks vastly better to me well after she retired. I think she reversed some face adjustments, or fixed up some previous adjustments. Sadly I missed out on the famous Nong.

I never tried Baron's in the old days, and at Tulip basically stuck to my favourite Yok, so I am perhaps blissfully unaware of the massive standard in the earlier years. I am aware of how inexperienced bargirls were sometimes very keen on Farangs 20 years back, due to possibly never experiencing full sexual service from Thai boys, who were often considered typically wham, bam, thankyou mam, types. I still remember the newbie bargirl with no English that kept waking me up though the night wanting another round of sex and more orgasms, like she was a virgin on heat. O.K. Never happens in the modern day.

I still find/collect bargirls that are pretty and perform good enough for me. I admit that these are the exceptions rather than the rule. Certainly cannot afford to keep switching them. Crazy House is not a good place to look for them. Only ever found 3 great girls on the bed from there (not looking for PSE). However one Nat was absolutely stunning which made it very worthwhile. Pity she disappeared. She was way better than Cherry's stunner Angie (previous Angie) for face looks and performance, body similar but slightly better tits.

Buddhist philosophy is to accept things for what they are, realise what you cannot influence, and get on with finding the best from your day. O.K. I don't really adhere to all Buddhist teachings especially when it comes to "Gileet" (กิเลส) or the lust for pleasure. Harmless pleasure that doesn't hurt anyone, can't be bad, surely. Some people get it from food. For me playing with naked beautiful girls is a pleasure and I help support these girls, and its only harming my future wealth and using up my time that I could waste some other far more boring way. I never got any girls pregnant, or gave any girl a disease beyond a cold. So the worst things I ever did as a monger would be bruising some girls uterus and putting her out of action for a couple of days, despite being a very gentle fucker. Made sure girls took morning after pill once or twice after condom breakage accidents so my conscience could be clear. Even got tested for STDs on occasions.

[QUOTE=OldPhart;1674008]Miss Game is receiving some good reviews. Now I'm intrigued and thinking she might have fun with any toys I bring along.

I feel like I'm starting a "Ginger or Mary Ann" debate by asking this, but, who would you prefer at Cherry: Game or Bell?[/QUOTE]Having had the two girls at the same time and Bell with other ladies and alone, my preference is Bell. Bell is older, but I find her more attractive and more skilled. Game is younger and speaks better English. Also, I was with Game when she was new. That was a couple of months ago. She was motivated and eager to please, so I expect she is even better now. I felt she had a lot of potential when I was with her. Try them both, together or individually and give us your opinion. I'm just one guy with one opinion.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1674032]Paul,

You should know that shops like Tulip, Mango, etc. Do have training for new girls with not much experience (or did have when I last discussed such topics with a girl. Maybe some time ago). You have to allow though for variations in natural ability and how fast girls learn. No amount of training will fix a dud girl. The really dud girls will either leave quickly or be kicked out before too long from the shops trying to maintain a service level, but initially the shop will not know that a girl is crap for all customers.[/QUOTE]As for the oily MPs that cater to tourists, you'd think they would. I don't know if it's widespread and effective. It seems the gogo bars don't do this, though I think the best girls may take it upon themselves.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1673788]Good to hear. How was your session?[/QUOTE]Was my second session with Porn, the first being about 10 days ago. Went back for her a few times but she was never there. Porn is a fun girl, likes to joke and kid around. She is short, somewhat dark, nice body and ass, very pretty (does not have the typical square Thai hooker face, but more Latina looking). Very nice person with good service. Had a great time.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1673909]Perhaps you intended to attach a different photo as the photo of Bell you used is also the same as on their website.[/QUOTE]Yes Bell too, I was her first customer on the day Bell started work at cherry. The mamasan happens to be an old friend, since the days she was a WG herself. There got to be some privileges you see.

55555 (see the smirk on my face?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1674303]Was my second session with Porn, the first being about 10 days ago. Went back for her a few times but she was never there. Porn is a fun girl, likes to joke and kid around. She is short, somewhat dark, nice body and ass, very pretty (does not have the typical square Thai hooker face, but more Latina looking). Very nice person with good service. Had a great time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Yes, I am not a "square-head" fan. Something you find on a lot of Isaan gals. That square jawline behind the ears is just not attractive to me.

So Addict, BBBJ, two shots, rimming all standard?

After a long day of checking out what was happening in various establishments I decided my first massage would be at Bamboo. It was around 8 Pm when I wondered in. I had looked in earlier and saw a few I liked. When I did arrive back I picked Yum Yum (I believe that was her name). Attractive girl with a little experience. It.

Was a couple of weeks ago so as I try to remember things it is becoming a little distant. I do remember a decent body and I had no complaints. I didn't ask for A+ so.

Not sure if she was willing to participate in that. The question is did I get value for my Baht. I believe I did as I don't recall any bad memories. Would I recommend Bamboo, yes. Next on my list for tomorrow was Mango. Report to follow later.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1674447]... I decided my first massage would be at Bamboo. It was around 8 Pm when I wondered in. I had looked in earlier and saw a few I liked. When I did arrive back I picked Yum Yum (I believe that was her name). Attractive girl with a little experience. It.

Would I recommend Bamboo, yes. Next on my list for tomorrow was Mango. Report to follow later.[/QUOTE]Just had an outcall session with Bang at Bamboo recently. Stopped in the afternoon and selected her. She was ontime and was a few minutes early. One tip for outcall you should specify if you want lotion verses oil as I guess it's oil by default and she didn't have any lotion with her other than oil, lube and condom. Bang is a spinner with a nice tan (if I remember correctly) with some see sized boob implants. BBBJ, DATY, CFS. She got wet after a few minutes of DATY when she started to really get into the session. I would recommend and her english is good enough to hold a conversation. I believe the outcall is a minimum of 2 hours. I would recommend anytime you plan on having a guest to call ahead and request extra towels. I had a an overnight guest later and had to call to get an extra towel for her to shower with.

JR

Took her yesterday. Wanted someone. She has a girlie face and slim body which I liked. Once the clothes went off, found that she has sagging boobs and baby tummy. But overall her service was out of the world. Never said no to anything. For the 2 hours I was there, her tongue was in my arse for 15 min, my dick was in her mouth for more than 45 min (while I was rotating fingers in her ass), dick in her ass for 30 min and in her pussy for 10 min. Really enjoyed my stay. She is also very vocal, to the extent that you fear that someone outside will think you are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her.

Damage - 2300 b for 2 hrs.

WIR. Will like to try someone else next time.

SW has never disappointed me and seems to be training their girls the best.

Based on advice of another forum member here, went to this place. Nice selection. Since it is inside the road, prices are slightly lower than the soapy parlors on the main road. Took a 19 yr old. She had a amazing curvy & tight body. Boobs were smallish, but perky nipples. Bad massage. I had negotiated for BBBJ at the counter. She seemed to be doing it for first time, had her fists clenched when my dick was in her mouth. But I thought it was worthwhile for her to learn this skills, so continued for sometime.

Had my dick in her pussy and fucked her thoroughly for 20 min. She was not liking the fucking but I took my sweet time. Finally came in the rubber.

In hindsight, while soapies have better looking girls, the service attitude of oilies girls is so much better. Guess you can either go for service or looks.

I want to have my first A+ experience and I do not know which massage I should visit.

I'm hesitating about Mango, Bamboo, Tulip, Bongkot and Snow White.

Maybe someone can give me Details about the girls. I like skinny girls, prefer small breasts and decent looking.

Thanks