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If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.

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[QUOTE=X Man; 1435304]Thanks for the extra info Gajith. I've had some great and some bad times with the MBC ilk.

As for sitting in bed or laying in bed, not sure what that was about. Giving orders is best for gals you've known a while. From your story, it sounds like you picked a bad one. But my advice is that no matter how outrageous someone complains or confronts you, always look for the sliver of truth. That makes you a better person. And I mean that in the Philippines and everywhere else you go.

As for the photo, it seems you have paid the model fee. I suggest you post the photo, but maybe tone down your criticism. Something like,"not recommended".[/QUOTE]Yeah I understand. Since I am not a native speaker of English, I always use 'please' if I ask something and I consider without please is rude.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1435556]If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/428241/rain-plunges-parts-of-metro-manila-into-traffic-chaos[/url][/QUOTE]Lucky me, departed Manila a day before the rain. Those people whose GF can't go home are lucky and those people's GF cancelled their meeting due to the climate are unlucky. Anyway rain creates a good mood; Enjoy your job Colleagues :P

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1435556]If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/428241/rain-plunges-parts-of-metro-manila-into-traffic-chaos[/url][/QUOTE]Yup, the Manila based DIA contacts I regularly chat with keep mentioning the rain and floods around this time.

Apparently the roads in areas such as Intramuros and Ermita (my particular areas of interest for residing and punting in) are sometimes under water resulting resulting in traffic gridlock.

Hoping to schedule a trip in late August to avoid the worst.

[QUOTE=BSticks;1435162]So I finally got my paid membership here. I've seen it mentioned time & time again in this thread to reach out to senior members about traveling to Manila and trying to plan a good trip. Who'd be good to reach out to? My trips about 5 weeks away I am currently looking at the 18th of July to the 26th or so.[/QUOTE]By no means am I a senior member, but I have sent you a PM as to how I went about this as a newbie back in April.

Cheers and good luck

[QUOTE=BSticks;1435162]So I finally got my paid membership here. I've seen it mentioned time & time again in this thread to reach out to senior members about traveling to Manila and trying to plan a good trip. Who'd be good to reach out to? My trips about 5 weeks away I am currently looking at the 18th of July to the 26th or so.[/QUOTE]Guys here make it sound much more difficult than it is, and there really is no reason to have any big plans because they will go out the window when you walk down the street and a pretty girl smiles at you.

Depending on your budget go to Burgos (most expensive) EDSA (middle ground) for bar girls or for freelancers go to Havana (most expensive) or Manila Bay cafe.

Or just meet a random girl as you are out doing random stuff during the day.

There are very few things easier than getting laid in the Philippines.

I will be the first to admit. I am not so "smooth" and bursting with confidence but by no means is it easy to just walk around malls and picking up girls. I have been coming off and on to the Phiippines since 1992. When in the mall.window shopping. Woman will not even look at you. Look right past you and if you make eye contact will not even smile at you.

I have met some ladies. Prearranged meeting at MOA for lunch or dinner + movie. Dinner on the backside of MOA. Outdoors with live musica. Very nice.

Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.

There is no slam dunk or automatic.

Even after lunch and offer to buy some foods for her to take home or buy some beauty products. Shampoo plus plus does she say. "oh you are so wonderful. I want to stay with you"

I have taken girls for nice dinners, movies, bowling, enjoy moon lite walk on the mall of asia ocean walk. Never had one say. I wish to stay with you.

They accept taxi or bus or jeepney fare to return home. Not saying please call me.

I treat them with respect. Not act nasty. I try to joke or get them to smile. Always polite. Not force anything.

I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.

Yes, I know I can go "buy" a girl.

But listening to so many guys here. They talk of hooking up with 8's and 9's looking 18 to 25 year olds any time. All the time and pay nothing!

I just don't know how they do it! It had to be charisma and luck. They have the swagger!

Anyway for the new guys. Don't believe getting quality girls is as easy as some here point out.

How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise. Hard to believe.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1435963]There is no slam dunk or automatic.[/QUOTE]The non / semi-pro game is really a toss-up and you just have to play it by ear and cut your losses, cut her loose and move on, in case pussy is not delivered within your target time frame.

I keep hearing."you kanos take us filipinas for granted". OK, so maybe its better to pretend we are not. So I just try to take them, but not for granted.

Trust me if you are reasonably whitty and can carry a conversation, you will have NO problem in Manila hooking up with normal girls. They love us. Every time I walk through Robinsons or MOA or Greenbelt I leave with more than shopping bags. Like shooting fish in a barrel and I am 56 and no Robert Redford.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1435963].

There is no slam dunk or automatic.

Even after lunch and offer to buy some foods for her to take home or buy some beauty products. Shampoo plus plus does she say."oh you are so wonderful. I want to stay with you"

I have taken girls for nice dinners, movies, bowling, enjoy moon lite walk on the mall of asia ocean walk. Never had one say. I wish to stay with you.

They accept taxi or bus or jeepney fare to return home. Not saying please call me.

I treat them with respect. Not act nasty. I try to joke or get them to smile. Always polite. Not force anything.

I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.

But listening to so many guys here. They talk of hooking up with 8's and 9's looking 18 to 25 year olds any time. All the time and pay nothing!

I just don't know how they do it! It had to be charisma and luck. They have the swagger!

Anyway for the new guys. Don't believe getting quality girls is as easy as some here point out.

How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise.[/QUOTE]I am one of those guys who does ocassionally have too many ladies than I should on some days when I'm visiting Manila. I'm mid 50's, and in reasonable shape and also not bald.

I think I have two things going for me that allows me to have multiple ladies in a day.

First I'm very familiar with Manila. I have lived there, have property there, know a fair amount of Tagalog, have been visiting since 1980s and theres nothing about me that screams "newbie". I know the place and these girls know I know the place. I think that gives them a sense of comfort.

Second as I've had many trips, and have accumulated many phone numbers and have met many ladies and treated them nicely, they are generally always up for a repeat. Or they are happy to introduce a new friend. My trips usually comprise some repeats and some new ones. Nice combo.

I don't know how to rate girls. Mine are all fun and friendly and my friends seem to think they all look pretty or sweet. But scores. I don't know how to rate them.

But they all seem happy to see me and always leave with a smile.

Last trip they were 18 (virgin) .21, 22, 19, 25, 23, 19 and a disaster with Ms 21.

I don't think I have "swagger" but I'm not shy about saying hi, and they all, always seem happy to go where I'm going, which is usually to the hotel room.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1435963]I have met some ladies. Prearranged meeting at MOA for lunch or dinner + movie. Dinner on the backside of MOA. Outdoors with live musica. Very nice.

Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.

There is no slam dunk or automatic.

I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.[/QUOTE]I'm not your age so I haven't had your experience, but I know it'll come. Reading the others' replies I have hope for my sunset years.

Have you had numerous of these experiences or just a couple? If it's happening a lot. No offense m8, but you know the definition of insanity, yeah? You're repeating a losing gambit. Obviously you have enough game to get them to meet you, but closing the deal is the problem. In your pre-date communications are you just emphasizing all the treats that await her? Who doesn't like a visit from Santa? Do that shopping, if you must, [i]after[/i] You seal the deal. Perhaps all that generosity strikes the girl as desperation. I personally don't know Freebiefan, but from the comments of his I've read I'm certain he has a lot of confidence. I bet ya he's a take charge kind of guy; not bossy, but he knows how to move things long to the desired outcome. I think you need to be more direct in stating what you expect. Go ahead and mention the dinners. Movies and the moonlit walks, but make sure she knows beforehand that she'll be going to your place afterwards and she agrees to it. This may reduce the number of meetings you have, but it'll also reduce the time wasting, the expense, and the frustration. You have nothing to lose by being direct and much to gain by spending your time productively. You didn't mention your desired age but I'll surmise it's like everyone else's. Sure 18 to 23-year old 10s are great, but I find 25+ 7s and 8s even better; I often meet women in their 30s, have met a few women in their 40s on occasion, and even a 50-year-old.

[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1436101]I.

Do that shopping, if you must, [i]after[/i] You seal the deal. Perhaps all that generosity strikes the girl as desperation. I personally don't know Freebiefan, but from the comments of his I've read I'm certain he has a lot of confidence. I bet ya he's a take charge kind of guy; not bossy, but he knows how to move things long to the desired outcome. I think you need to be more direct in stating what you expect. Go ahead and mention the dinners. Movies and the moonlit walks, but make sure she knows beforehand that she'll be going to your place afterwards and she agrees to it. This may reduce the number of meetings you have, but it'll also reduce the time wasting, the expense, and the frustration. You have nothing to lose by being direct and much to gain by spending your time productively.[/QUOTE]I'm in total agreement with what Brother Hutsori has just stated, I find many Filipinas are very passive and are happy to be led.

They don't shout at people who jump queues / lines, they don't get upset when having to wait 2 hours to pay a Globe bill. They are passive.

I've often met girls, for first time in a mall, said hi, chit chat, then gone walking with them to my car and to my apartment. They've never said "why are we going in your car and where are we going". They just follow. You have to recognise you are in a different continent and different rules and a different approach apply.

Be confident, know what you want to do and don't let them dictate.

If they want to go shopping, tell them "after". Every Filipina knows what "after" means.

Then she has a choice. Goes with you and gets some shopping "after" or doesn't go, and then you haven't wasted your time.

Its not so much about being confident, more about being direct and showing that you have a clear idea of whats going to happen.

I was in Greenbelt on last Manila trip waiting for a gal. Theres a guy standing near me also clearly waiting.

His girl shows up, and they smile, introduce themselves and the guy says "shall we go for coffee". Girl happily agrees.

My gal arrives, I introduce myself, smile, and I motion we would exit GB and cross the road to my hotel. My gal also smiles.

2 hours later I walk past Starbucks in GB and the guy and his girl are still there talking and guys looking at his watch.

I think the analogy is clear.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1435963]Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.[/QUOTE]Did YOU hint? All you need to do is say something like "Hey, I want to show you something" or "I forgot something in my room". Any excuse to get them back there is fine. They know what's up, they just don't want to be the one who makes the move, and if you use some innocuous excuse they won't feel slutty even if they know they are going there to sleep with you anyway. Most girls like plausible deniability for their own subconscious.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1435963]Yes, I know I can go "buy" a girl.[/QUOTE]Sounds like what you were trying to do anyway, you were just buying her with gifts instead of cash. Don't get me wrong, it is ok to take her shopping, give her extra "taxi money", etc., but like others have said this is best done later rather than before. Make her work for her reward.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68;1435963]How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise. Hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Hard to believe? Sometimes it is hard to avoid LOL!

MangoBob68,

Rejection is part of the game, which is a numbers game.

As have been pointed out, you sometimes need to be a little firm with pinays, regardless how cute, sweet, whatever you percieve them. They actually often get wet from this. You're the guy, take control. Be macho. Macho has good connotations in a filipina's vocabulary. This is not cockblocking, femi-nazi owned territory. Yet.

The chocolates are in the hotel ref.

[QUOTE=X Man;1435304][/QUOTE]FYI: The Other Girl