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Haha, UH. Do I detect a note of sarcasm? My "talent" such as it were is limited to copy / pasting a link and jotting down a few facts from that article. I would leave the heavy lifting (I. E. Evangelizing the attractions of FKK, and spreading the word about these beacons of pleasures to young Italian damsels) to far more enterprising individuals such as yourself. After all, you are already well known to many such ladies at at least one such fine establishment, while I am a virtual unknown to 99% of the ladies at even the one Club I (infrequently) attend which is Sharks.

As for the serious point you make, which is that most young ladies in Italy or Greece do not know about FKKs, fair enough. But necessity is the mother of invention as they say. A less developed, less connected nation like Romania doesn't suffer from this lack of knowledge. Perhaps the fact that several thousands of Romanian ladies are doing the evangelizing and that is what is lacking when it comes to Italy?.... A spark plug....Once a few Italian ladies come, understand what a great life it is (ahem) and go back and whisper the secret to their younger, more impressionable cousin sisters.... Soon, a trickle becomes a torrent.

Let us hope.

I'm planning to go to Oktoberfest for opening weekend and staying for 2 days.

Since I'm going to be in Germany anyway, going to visit some FKKs.

Should I go before Oktoberfest starts (before Sept 22)? Or after it all ends? During? Does it get crowded during these 2 weeks?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2193461]Zero in FKK as I never tried, but I am beginning to think about it with few, though I still have to ask some of the girls I know at FKK discretely and I don't know if they will let me go bareback, but if I look back there are few I would have asked and some may have let me but most likely with bit of extra euro like 100 euro more.

However, I fuck nice Eurasian girls here back home and I go bareback often, so far no STD, but I know the origin of these girls and they are fresh in the industry girls like 18 if I am lucky but mostly 19 to 22 years old.

Next time in FKK, I may try to ask some of the girls I know.[/QUOTE]It seems you love European pussies. Or Eurasian Pussies. You don't mention Asian or Japanese pussies much. Aren't they lovely too? Just curious.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2193510]It seems you love European pussies. Or Euroasian Pussies. You don't mention Asian or Japanese pussies much. Aren't they lovely too? Just jurious.[/QUOTE]Well. Yes and no, I love beautiful girls and I love Europeans and Eurasians hybrid girls the most.

So I basically goto EU to fuck European pussies and Eurasians I do them here back home when I find stunner level as I only like stunner level girls.

I do however, like some Asian girls who is stunner, but it is so hard to find Asian girls that are stunner level. I like about 170 cm, model body, structured beautiful small face etc at around age 18 to 24 max, so it is hard to find stunner level, but once in awhile I do find stunner level and I often get both Asian stunner or Eurasian girls bareback when I find them, which is hmmmm few times per year as I am selective.

Fortunately in FKK in Europe, it is easier to find stunners, though it is getting harder to find comparison to before.

Beside European white girls in FKK, I also like half immigrant nation and half white type of beautiful girls which are quite few in German FKK due to open immigration policy, that serves my exotic tanned girls type taste, also Romanian also can serve in that sense as some of them are tanned girls and exotic type of beauty.

My favorite is German blondes, but these are much harder to find nowadays compare to early 2010's. I wonder why this is?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2193483]10% of (20-34 age group) a large country like Italy yields a large enough number -- in hundreds of thousands...

And yet, I never see a real Italian girl in FKKs. A few Roms who claim to be Italian, but almost zero true Italians.

It takes a LOT for a girl to sell her body -- even when they are this broke, so few of them are doing it. Perhaps some of those girls ply this trade inside Italy discretely, but none in FKKs.

Ditto Greece -- so broke for so long, and yet not enough incentive to offer sex for money.

So, guys here should be thankful that Romanian girls, whether due to local economy or because they have less scruples about selling pussy, are so available. When the Romanians stop coming, they can convert Sharks back to the warehouse and Oase to a school.[/QUOTE]Good point you raise, but I think it is also due to a mix of a few other things.

1: these unemployed people are probably educated, but still cannot get jobs. So they try for years to get a relevant job. But with no success.

2. Moving down on the wealth ladder takes a long time to mentally agree upon. In their minds they probably still think they are rich even if they are not. Because they are Italians. And to them, being Italian means anything but being poor.

3. Religion in Italy is very strong. Go to a less religious country, and girls would be far more open to this work.

4. Prostitution is illegal in Italy, so girls instinct due to social and legal norms is to look elsewhere for work. (In Germany, a much richer country, the rates are lower, but still you find some German girls in this work).

5. Information is scarce. Most of the potential girls in Italy probably arent as informed as romanians or german girls.

6. Many of the unemployed are perhaps less attractive. If they would be more attractive, they probably work in a shopping mall, at a hairdresser or somewhere hot girls congest at, where the employers hire based on looks.

7. My first ever P4's girl was an Italian. A student in Barcelona. Context goes a long way, and back then there were no Romanians or Bulgarians around.

Sylvana is Italian, one Italian with tattoo in back at the moment at Sharks. Italian Anna tried at Wellcum on August 2016, beauty, but not so good in bed.

I m always surprised because many Romanian girls believe in god, with their job I would only believe in devil and hell.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2193503]Jnpr30, a clear need exists for enterprising individuals to travel to Italy and Greece to advertise the economic opportunities available in nearby countries.

Perhaps no one is actively advertising to all these young folks in Italy and Greece. I mean, 99% of Americans have absolutely no idea that FKKs even exist. It wouldn't surprise me if young ladies in Italy and Greece had no realistic information about FKKs.[/QUOTE]Al-salaam barak-Alabama, Mr Happy. Meanwhile in Romania they are teaching the girls about FKKs in the schools.

I think FKKs are tremendously lazy about advertising opportunities, not just in Italy and Greece, but in Latin America, southeast Asia, all over the world in fact. I keep saying they could multiply their applicant pool 10-100 times if they only unfurled their map.

Currently there is a narrow Funnel that goes from Romania to FKK-land. Nobody knows what it's called or who operates it, but the FKKs are abjectly dependent on it. This Funnel is like a pussy that has been banged a thousand times a day and is all worn out. What will it take for the FKKs to take on the Monopoly System?

As long as the system works, nobody cares. But as the clubs become dominated by gangs of surly Romanians, I think more and more people are going to start asking questions. The FKKs are a shadow of what they once were.

Different persons have different tastes regarding to stunner. I like / love Japanese AV type girls, like Tokyo Hot Web Site girls or KPOP girls. Personally I feel they are better than European girls. Although, I use FKK girls a lot.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2193521]Well. Yes and no, I love beautiful girls and I love Europeans and Eurasians hybrid girls the most.

So I basically goto EU to fuck European pussies and Eurasians I do them here back home when I find stunner level as I only like stunner level girls.

I do however, like some Asian girls who is stunner, but it is so hard to find Asian girls that are stunner level. I like about 170 cm, model body, structured beautiful small face etc at around age 18 to 24 max, so it is hard to find stunner level, but once in awhile I do find stunner level and I often get both Asian stunner or Eurasian girls bareback when I find them, which is hmmmm few times per year as I am selective.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2193602]

I think FKKs are tremendously lazy....But as the clubs become dominated by gangs of surly Romanians, I think more and more people are going to start asking questions. The FKKs are a shadow of what they once were.[/QUOTE]You are correct in all points (probably someone will object to your use of the word "surly", but I think it is an ok, if sweeping, generalisation as you are contexting it historically with past groups of workers).

But despair not my perceptive comrade. There is still good service, and nice clubs, and good atmosphere to be found, but it takes a lot more effort to find. Recently an ISG member lectured me, as if I didn't already know this, but he was right to allude to Living Room (even in modern times), others mention Bernds, and I mention the red carpet clubs (although they also are becoming infected by the Precious Princess virus which pervades some of the most frequented clubs).

Personally I am glad that FKK does not advertise worldwide for customers. And they cannot advertise worldwide for women to come and work as immigration rules are unfortunately now strictly enforced in FKKs.But as UH points out, the absence of say, Greek workers, is odd (there are several cultural and organisational explanations which can be discussed and infinitum to no effect on the real world)

My point is, we can find the best service and report (which, apologies, I have been unable to do for a couple of months)

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2193503]Jnpr30, a clear need exists for enterprising individuals to travel to Italy and Greece to advertise the economic opportunities available in nearby countries.

Perhaps no one is actively advertising to all these young folks in Italy and Greece. I mean, 99% of Americans have absolutely no idea that FKKs even exist. It wouldn't surprise me if young ladies in Italy and Greece had no realistic information about FKKs.

Perhaps this could be your calling Jnpr30? Think about how many young people you might be able to save from their economic plight and possible starvation.

Perhaps some Italians could explain why they do not export any of their own young ladies to Germany? Surely there are some Italians here who would be willing to shed some light on the situation? Plenty of Italians in the clubs every weekend, so surely a few are browsing ISG when they're done reading their Italian equivalent versions of ISG?[/QUOTE]Of course they have all the infos thez just like the French women they don t want to be a prostitute being fucked so many times every day, to work in a club is destroying not only the body but mainly the brain, just have a objective look at the girls after several years in a club. They are looking like old bitches, with low power and no energy to build their life. Are you willing one of your family member to work in any FKK, for me obviously not. Most of them earn good money but less than in the past and the competition is more and more hard between the girls. After several years in a FKK many of them have nothing, 60 percent of those girls have a BF or a pimp.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2193495]

I am not certain why a Greek or Italian lady would travel to a German FKK to work. While some of the local guys are poor, there are likely enough wealthier locals, traveling businessmen, and tourists to provide them enough business in those two countries.

I would guess that the FKK places are cliquish and would guess that the Romanians / Eastern European ladies might be less than friendly to ladies of other nationalities? Or maybe Romanian and Eastern European ladies just like clubs. I get amused by inaccurate media articles stating that 50-60% or more of Spanish sex workers are Eastern European. My guess is that it is more like 5%. The writer usually indicated that he or she went to two clubs to do research and completely ignored the massive escort and small brothels in Spain, that are almost entirely local ladies and South Americans.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Optimist;2193634]YAnd they cannot advertise worldwide for women to come and work as immigration rules are unfortunately now strictly enforced in FKKs.But as UH points out, the absence of say, Greek workers, is odd (there are several cultural and organisational explanations which can be discussed and infinitum to no effect on the real world)
[/QUOTE]Some posters have touched on various reasons but a thesis can be made by understanding poverty and culture. You do not see Greeks and Italians because those countries lack a poverty culture.

The people of Italy and Greece have not been living in poverty like the Romanians and other Eastern Europeans, well, not long enough to develop a culture of poverty. While they have not been as rich as the French, British, and Germans in modern times, the economic situations in those countries have been fairly recent events. Romania meanwhile went straight from poverty during Soviet communism, to poverty in Ceausecu's communism in the 80's, to poverty in their chaotic version of capitalism in the 90's and 2000's. Poverty has been a way of life there for quite some time. The same goes for southern Spain and South America. ; hence why you also see so many of those nationalities in Spain. Heck, you see more Southeast Asian girls in Europe than Italians and Greeks.

In essence, while many people have become financially poor in Greece and Italy, there is not a [B]culture of poverty[/B] that brings the girls there. For girls from countries like Greece and Italy to be willing to immigrate to sell their bodies, poverty has to brew for another generation for the existing culture to change. Poverty has to be normalized for the institution of prostitution to become normalized.

As an addendum, while not discussed, the reason you see more Romanians than other Eastern Europeans is because of a combination of the above thesis and the network and infrastructure that has been so effectively built by our Romanian "businessmen" counterparts.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2193505]After all, you are already well known to many such ladies at at least one such fine establishment, while I am a virtual unknown to 99% of the ladies at even the one Club I (infrequently) attend which is Sharks..[/QUOTE]This explains so much. Fighters (wrestlers, judo, jujitsu, mixed martial artists) all understand that time on the mat is the [B]single[/B] most important thing you can do to become better. Studying techniques, cardio, and weight training while helpful, do not in themselves allow you to become a better fighter. I think this concept applies to and is a perfect metaphor for [U]hardcore[/U] FKK mongering and understanding the various nuances of the hobby.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2193602]I think FKKs are tremendously lazy about advertising opportunities, not just in Italy and Greece, but in Latin America, southeast Asia, all over the world in fact. I keep saying they could multiply their applicant pool 10-100 times if they only unfurled their map.[/QUOTE]While cruising along Walking Street in Pattaya, I did see the attached e-Billboard, which I took a picture of. So, at least one FKK has attempted to expand its reach. Of course, Magnum is not one of the top tier German clubs, so maybe a little desperation?

Wa 'alaykum, it's not (just) about a "culture of poverty", it's the fact that Romies love to Roam. Even in Japan, you will find thousands of Romanian girls entertaining their hosts.

Did you know that Romanians originally came from India? A thousand years ago they crossed over from the Punjab. Much of the Romanian language is still Sanskrit.

Anyway, it looks like they are continuing their westward expansion. Since Romania joined the EU 10 years ago, 17% of the population have emigrated -- the highest after war-torn Syria. When a Romanian finds herself in a new country she is going to need a job and it might not be easy, so an FKK is going to be an option. My concern is that they should be able to operate as individuals in a Western-style free market, rather than being managed by loverboy networks and bringing over corrupt economic patterns from the former Eastern Bloc.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2193727]Wa 'alaykum, it's not (just) about a "culture of poverty", it's the fact that Romies love to Roam. Even in Japan, you will find thousands of Romanian girls entertaining their hosts.

Did you know that Romanians originally came from India? A thousand years ago they crossed over from the Punjab. Much of the Romanian language is still Sanskrit.

Anyway, it looks like they are continuing their westward expansion. [/QUOTE]I think the Romanian people would probably attest to this statement very much. You are mixing up Romanian people with Romani / Romas / aka gypsies. Romanians were indigenous peoples, mostly Dacian (I. E. The Romanian car company), who were conquered by Romans. Some WGs are in fact also gypsies but certainly not all Romanians are Romani.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people[/URL]

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians[/URL]