Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=MS Clive; 1238536]Yes, but peso is more important than espanol. Learn a few phrases. That will maximize your fun. Don't behave like a stupid gringo. Except when it is a strategic move.

Like when I was ion Colombia and was not enjoying the 3-some and the chicas wanted to leave after 3 hrs of continuous sex and the only thing stopping them was them getting paid. They had tried everything including faking orgasms, a headache, declaring that the chica had a period but I had agreed on a full night. So I acted like a gringo who did not understand spanish and kept them working for 2 more hours until I had to catch a plane. Bitches got my digital camera and the liquor in my room, though![/QUOTE]Only your digital camera and all of your liquor? Looks like they got the better end of the deal. Look on the bright side, you can't take liquids on the plane anyways.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]You're saying this to a guy that trolls the cheapest Haitian massage parlors, looking for a deal. Had to get you atleast once in 2012 frannie, Happy New Year LOL.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]I wasn't really serious, but then again I almost never buy a girl a drink. If I did I would get mobbed by girls every time I went out. Obviously the reason why the girls are allowed to hang out in bars is that the proprietors hope that this will attract men who will buy drinks, which is fine and if you go into a bar you have to buy something in exchange for occupying a seat, which the girls don't. At the Merengue bar you can have coffee for 50 pesos, versus a bottle of water, which is 100 pesos, plus whatever tip you give the bar staff. Beer is maybe 150 pesos, and then mixed drinks are some ridiculous price that I don't even want to think about.

On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard. Then again, I think the girls would really prefer to have the cash than the beer, because when they have the cash in their little hands, they sure don't go back and buy themselves another beer.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1238918]You're saying this to a guy that trolls the cheapest Haitian massage parlors, looking for a deal. Had to get you atleast once in 2012 frannie, Happy New Year LOL.[/QUOTE]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.

I caught these two having it off in the street.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238925]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.[/QUOTE]This one (Haitiana in the white top), and the second photo with the chica in the peach-colored pants and yellow high heels is what I like about Haitianas!

But I think knowing that a particular one spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving BJ's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me. :(

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1238921]At the Merengue bar you can have coffee for 50 pesos, versus a bottle of water, which is 100 pesos, plus whatever tip you give the bar staff. Beer is maybe 150 pesos, and then mixed drinks are some ridiculous price that I don't even want to think about.

On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]Santo Libre's are 150 pesos!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238921]On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]I don't mind that the 150 pesos would go to the bar owner. It's what keeps the place running and gives us a place to hang at. Keep in mind that you would have to fly all the way to Thailand for the same setup places like Merengue Bar and Latinos has (music, putas and Presidente's in an open-air bar). I have much respect for them even more given that these places did not fold as a result of the crack down. I would hope other mongers would continue to support these establishments because without them we have nothing!

Of course you could always sit inside your hotel room and drink, but where's the fun in that? Most of my note-exchanging with other mongers about chicas has taken place right at the bar of Merengue with a Santo Libre in one hand and my cell phone in the other. :)

Its like this, Always look her in the eyes and be prepared to throw the man look (I aint going to stand for this shit!). Theyre reading you based on experiences, therefore you switch on in an animated fashion as to rush up and crowd their personal space. Its done with reflective body movement as though your getting ready to rumble but keep your distance. When your body language doesn't match what theyve experienced you will see their second thought take place, like (Oh shit! A real man what the fuk I'm getting into?) here's where you take your options with little resistance.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238925]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.[/QUOTE]I don't think so, because I've noticed there is a day shift that rests at night, and a night shift that rest during the day. Also I've seen alot of Haitian massage parlor girls who would never make the Latinos or Classicos muster (the two girls in the pic are examples). Most Haitian massage parlor girls are very poor and trying to keep from being deported (hence hiding in a massage parlor). But I still say Haitianas are "World Class fuckers' and alongside the Brazilians as the best.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239006]I would hope other mongers would continue to support these establishments because without them we have [b]nothing[/b]![/QUOTE]You make a fair point that mongers who want that sort of environment should expect to have to pay a premium to keep it in existence. Obviously enough other people think the same way as you as the Merengue Bar has kept going despite economic problems and successive crackdowns.

But I wouldn't want newbies or those undecided about making a first trip to Sosua to think there is "nothing" else. A friend of mine has just left after a three-week stay there. He enjoyed end-to-end chicas at affordable prices and never went near the Merengue Bar, Clasico, Latino (now Velero?) or Passions either for that matter, and I know many others like him.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239006]Of course you could always sit inside your hotel room and drink, but where's the fun in that? Most of my note-exchanging with other mongers about chicas has taken place right at the bar of Merengue with a Santo Libre in one hand and my cell phone in the other. :)[/QUOTE]You don't have to drink (alcohol) in bars to have a good time in Sosua. Right now I am sitting at a table with a delicious glass of unsweet iced tea laced with fresh leaves of spearmint in my hand. I rarely drink alcohol, but if I do it is usually at a restaurant with a meal. I hardly ever use a cell phone either. Once a chica gets your number, they will bug you to death. If you are a visitor to Sosua, you can get their number and call them from a centro de llamadas easily enough.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1239004]This one (Haitiana in the white top) , and the second photo with the chica in the peach-colored pants and yellow high heels is what I like about Haitianas!

But I think knowing that a particular one spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving BJ's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me. .[/QUOTE]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 a.m. and a very cute young thing catches your eye, then how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion? I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.

I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac..., I mean preju..., oh never mind. Just to say that if you go into a beauty salon and there are four Haitian girls there, they may each have quite different personalities, levels of education, personal and family histories, and so on, and really all they have in common is that they or their families came from Haiti, probably for economic reasons and that limited employment opportunities have led them to take the only kind of employment they can get. This is like working in a call center in the US. All I am saying is that it makes more sense to take each chica on her own merits, than prejudge based on place of origin, skin color, language, hair style, clothing, regardless of whether they are Haitian, Dominican, or something else. And regardless of where you first encounter a girl, or where she works, Sosua is a small place and you will run into her in other locations.

I was talking to a Haitiana the other day, and explained to her that last Monday was a public holiday in the US for Martin Luther King Day. She had not heard of him, so I explained who he was and what he had done, and how when he was active in civil rights black people in the US could not sit in the same cinema, use the same bathrooms, or stay in the same hotels, as white people, and had to sit at the back of the bus. She looked puzzled and then asked: "Why not?". So I guess some progress has been made.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1239127]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 a. M. And a very cute young thing catches your eye, then how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion? I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.

I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac, I mean preju, oh never mind. All I am saying is that it makes more sense to take each chica on her own merits, than prejudge based on place of origin, skin color, language, hair style, clothing, regardless of whether they are Haitian, Dominican, or something else. And regardless of where you first encounter a girl, or where she works, Sosua is a small place and you will run into her in other locations.

I was talking to a Haitiana the other day, and explained to her that last Monday was a public holiday in the US for Martin Luther King Day. She had not heard of him, so I explained who he was and what he had done, and how when he was active in civil rights black people in the US could not sit in the same cinema, use the same bathrooms, or stay in the same hotels, as white people, and had to sit at the back of the bus. She looked puzzled and then asked: "Why not?". So I guess some progress has been made.[/QUOTE]You and I think alike. I have visited Haiti and plan many return visits. I had also been planning to visit DR until I saw this PBS like documentary about "Black in [name the country-they covered Haiti, DR, US, Colombia and a few other places but I only saw the one on Haiti and DR]. I have now changed my position and do plan to visit DR this year but I will likely avoid the night clubs. I know how to go to places and meet friendly women without going the route of the nightclub. I am tentatively looking at early May but again those plans are very tentative at this point. Thanks for the posts. This is a sample of what I like to taste in Africa and I have posted my experience in Haiti in that forum along with pics.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]Great advice sir. Let her do the ordering and you sit back and observe: does she ask for permission or does she act as if it is her right etc. In life as in a bar I let people reveal themselves.

Yesterday. At Classicos I met this hottie called Paola. She ordered 2 beers off me: 1st with my permission and 2nd as if it was her right. A bit of a flag. Then she ordered a cocktail without asking me permission. I heard her but did not look at the waiter who actually came to our table and generally neglected this happened. When the drink came I did not offer to pay but looked the other way. She reached into her purse and paid for the drink! I think it must have been 250 pesos. Anyway serves her right!

She looked well dressed and very hot indeed. After 15 minutes she asked me if I wanted to do fricky-fricky in an information gathering sort of way: sign of an amateur and puta wannabe. I said yes and then she named her price: US$100? I showed shock. I can afford that and this chick was so hot I could care less. But then her direct approach told me she would me major cold fish in bed. Also there was more fish in the ocean that was passing us by with every wave. My shock worked and "In Dominican it will will 3, 500 pesos" she declared. Now I knew I could bargain her down to 2, 500. La Passions price if I wanted but I thought there was more money and less chemistry. I did not bargain and on that cue I walked out on her. I spent Road 300 on chica drinks but at least that helped me screen out the *****. Eventually the other fish I ended up catching was Jessy. And such a woman. Topic of another report.

Cmon Frannie, we know you like to stir the pot with bullshit, but drop the race card thing? The people involved in this conversation, me and Savepros, both fuck Haitian girls, just not the low budget ones that cheap guys take advantage of. If there were aliens fucking in massage parlors for 100pesos, they would be your favorite. You don't have a phone because you are cheap, you drink the cheapest beverage served when about. I'm willing to bet you stay in some cheap rat hole.

You are in Sosua constantly, what happened to the wife and Prince the dog? Don't want them calling you? Hiding out in Sosua licking your wounds after la esposa Dominicana emptied your bank account?

Damn dude, I am trying to be nice in 2012, but don't throw the race card out there so freely, your not qualified.