FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2312206]So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?[/QUOTE]74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2312414]74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.[/QUOTE]I like your note. Made me giggle.

160 an hour doesn't guarantee good service anymore. It is extremely sad. Even 200 dies not guarantee good service. Of course, depends on the girls and so on, but lets assume the consensus on top girls rather than a subjective view. Even than the top Artemis girls are far off from top Hessen NRW girls. Artemis is really difficult these days.

As for numbers, while Artemis is still ATM the club with most visitors, the number of frequenters had declined and will keep declining. But let remember that most of the Artemis crowd is tourist who can't really differentiate service levels and those get kicked out of the room in 10 minutes and get 2 minutes covered BJ with another two positions sex for another 5 minutes before the girls says "you take to long, finish already and stop breathing on me. "

This trickle down economy of awareness will take more time before it is fully translated into numbers.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2312414]74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.[/QUOTE]I am fairly certain that during my last visit I saw Zhukov, Martin Bormann and Lord Lucan, all in towelling dressing gowns, watching the football in the downstairs bar.

[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2312414]74 years ago Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov liberated Berlin. Hitler, Himmler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann, Hess, Speer, SS, Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, all obliterated. These days the victors are Titty, Mimmi, Kitty and Sissy, born in 1994, weighing 54 kg walking around naked carrying small bags containing rubbers and mouthwash. Stalin must be proud.

TBH, we have received Emirates service for the price of EasyJet economy tickets with cabin bags only for so many years. The place is still packed with minimum price 160/ h. 40 rubbers are filled up every hour between 11-05. It is over. We lost.[/QUOTE]Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2312592]Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?[/QUOTE]Although I think you said this in jest you may have a valid point?

My first visit to the world of FKK was at Artemis, I loved it and returned a number of times.

However my last visit was in November 2017 and since then I have gone to Clubs in the Frankfurt (initially it was by accident) area where I found the service just as good but cheaper.

I've always wanted to return to Artemis but quite frankly the reports I've read on this and other forums have made me think twice.

Artemis was always that "bit more expensive" than other Clubs but it now appears prices have increased further with a decrease in quality services.

Just a shame I never tried Jena!

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2311699]Besides from that you only will go to Artemis if business brings you to Berlin, I have to say that I do not understand what you are saying.[/QUOTE]Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2312592]Should we request the Admin to change the name of this thread appropriately to "FKK Artemis Berlin. A lost case"?[/QUOTE]LOL, Truly a masterpiece. Well done, you should be a poet. I second the name change. Let's do it.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2312625]Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.[/QUOTE]Wolves in sheep's clothing. Well you have a lot of knowledge mister. Much obliged. I think I know this skinny one, she actually looks pretty good IMO, but you confirm my suspicions about her.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2312625]Other readers understand and answer very nice, but OK, I sorry for my English, I will try more extra for you. The boss of Artemis is not liking this situation. The WG's in the Artemis said he told to some girls that they cannot work in there more. But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon, Turkish Clara or Lara, very skinny Berlin girl also what must be out. Some the girls very humiliation for clients. The way they are when you say to them you have no interest to go in the room it is not OK, I wanted to go home from the shocking words they use. I was feeling so not comfortable. A lot work there 5+ years and they almost angry bei the clients always. One small Bulgaria girl comes late and all the time so aggressive. So it is my summary, that the boss must know to tell the right girls that they can't work there more and not send the good girls home. I am hope that this it is more clear for mister PinballMachine. If it is not good, you please say me and I do my best again.[/QUOTE]Thanks man I understand now.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2312841]Thanks man I understand now.[/QUOTE]Very nice response Green arrow, thank you. I must say that Artemis is such a great facility, it is just hard to believe that this is the situation. Everything that is directly facility management is almost perfect. There must be a serious check on girls and not just some angry reaction that send 20 girls home. Has to a long term approach with taking the right girls because no where in Germany girls have the luxury they have in Artemis. Maybe send then to Leipzig for a weekend to appreciate what you hey have, LOL.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2312625]But some girls must be out are still there; very rude girl from Lebanon.[/QUOTE]I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2313014]I met a skinny girl from Lebanon that last time I was at Artemis. I remember her well because she cracked me up! She said, "We go to the room, and I make for you the hummus"! Hahaha! Well, she really wasn't my type, and I politely declined. She took it quite well too actually. Too skinny for my tastes! And she knew it too, saying that she knew guys "like me" liked some booty, and she didn't have any LOL! Come to think of it, I also have met one other Lebanese girl at Palace years ago. A white-skinned, Christian girl. Knew she wouldn't last long in the trade! The session went a little bit over (according to her) and she wanted to charge me for another full 30 minutes. We ended up at the front desk. Her career was short-lived indeed![/QUOTE]Probably she was from France, never met any girl from Lebanon in a FKK.

My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400€. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60€ but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160€ with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110€ for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat!

[QUOTE=Apollo12;2313870]My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat![/QUOTE]A first time was very good when one girl ask 400 an hour and make you out in 3 minutes? Second girls 160 half hour must have kissing licking eating and all Apollo lust for. 3 it is 110 30 minutes and your first time was so very good. I am very apologize, you don't know FKK and you can't never give a what is called holistic review for FKK. For this money, you can go anywhere else and have some real beauties. Not Artemis pool of old women, silicon and tired from the life. Those women what in Artemis, put them in NRW and they must really work or to go home. Please don't it understand as attack Apollo, it is not and you are very nice person. It is only the Artemis trap for the people what don't know FKK real life. I wish you go to good FKK one day, I wish you will have a real the good time for your good money and then please you come again this posting and give us your review after new experience. I hope for my Kollege hier a perfect time with real beauties, please go even Hawaii, Living room, Aca, or GT to know what is real woman, real, service girls. Artemis it is a the funny joke on men not FKK. Yes, will be nice when the big boss there read this and make serious stop to this. Better go palace even get real women for this money not the greedy gold digging old silicon girls in there. Annabel it is the quite pretty girl not silicon old yes. Only fresh girl there. 400 euro 1 hour and it is blowjob only the hat of the cock and fuck is not to touch so the repunzel harre so she will not lose time on really shower after fuck and go direct in bar area to find new other sucker. Even now two old, porno stars sit in bar entry to welcome the manner. Ja danke for the 60 year old porno girls with all tattooed and all wrinkle face. FKK for grandmutter. I will make finish to this with only one question what it is the restaurant where you get the really street bahn station food and pay like the best restaurant in the complete world?

[QUOTE=Apollo12;2313870]A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.[/QUOTE]Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??

Said all before: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2256743&viewfull=1#post2256743[/URL].

Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:

1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.

2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick.

3. Complain at front desk about prices. Don't need to mention names, just that this overcharging is ridiculous. If reception hears this over and over again, they will take notice and tell girls to throttle back. If you go together in small group, impact will be greater. Say pricing gotten so crazy you will not return unless situation is fixed. Management will hear this.

4. Fill out suggestion form toward front door before reception. Write same about prices.

Some quiet resistance will change things as word spreads and as management hears it. Only 5-10 guys saying this every night would be enough.

Understand this takes away from a relaxed night of fun but would take really only a few minutes. And ice breaker to meet men with similar ideas. Crazy to just tolerate these prices. Push back on predatory pussy pricing power.