FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Apollo12;2313870]My first time in Artemis was very good only the first girl was a little bit too much talking about money. Annabell a red hair girl was in the beginning very lovely when we was in the room totally different. She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. A little bit too much for me so I booked the half hour for 60 but it was only 3 minutes. Never again.

The second girl was Dilera beautiful girl with Turkish roots. She is professional and I like that. I book the half hour for 160 with Analsex. Very nice experience. Top! The third girl was from Bulgaria her name is Gigi. A nice blond natural girl. I pay 110 for GFS. She give me a good time. Nice half hour without pushing.

I like Artemis because of the atmosphere. It's not boring and you have many choices. The food was okay. The spa is clean. Repeat![/QUOTE]LOL, he had a very good time. I can stop laughing from the description vs the headline. I got a lot of tan sitting under the moonlight. Oh men, you are so funny. Maybe someone else will have some energy to explain prices vis a vis good time and service. Google synonymous for this situation are chiefly, but not limited to chump, dupe, gull, mug (chiefly British), patsy, pigeon, pushover, sap, soft touch, tool. How come there are so many of you in a world dominated by the concentration of wealth and people leaving and credit. But he had a good time, LMAO. Nice dude, truly, a masterpiece. And the star Anabella or whatever her name is strikes again. Did you ask her how much she wants for anal 800?

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2314092]Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??

Said all before: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=2256743&viewfull=1#post2256743[/URL].

Ninja propose mongers reading this should get some balls, and get organized. Some ideas:

1. Whenever you go to A, chat quietly with other men and discuss prices. Tell all to chat with others. Get agreements that you will say no and walk away if 30 min with kissing, DATY, blowjob cost more than 60 EUR. If a few mongers do this, word will quietly spread and maybe "market" can get normal. This occurs because men tolerate it and pay. "Market" is not some objective thing. It emerges from behavior of men.

2. Refuse to go with girls who charge ridiculous prices. Think with brain, not dick..[/QUOTE]Ninja, my friend, but he had a good time. LMAO.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2256743]Look, you and others can pay what you want, and you must decide value. Time pressure plays big role. But, since law change (which we now know is silly and not enforced) girls take advantage. Big picture is this. Look at multiple websites in Berlin -bordello home pages, kaufmich, Berlin intim etc. And you will find well over 3000 girls working here. They charge about 140 ish for a fine hour with most extras. That is competitive market price now in Berlin. For years, Artemis prices were about this level. (To be fair, prices for girls both in and outside A in Berlin have changed little in over 15 years so with some (very) slight inflation maybe 5-10% would be reasonable).

Since new law (which has not changed prices in "outside" Berlin market at all) some Artemis girls seem to be getting away with almost double this, if you include portion of 80 Eur entrance fee. They do this because conditions inside distort market which means some ideal notion of simple supply and demand do not work. An incomplete list. Imperfect, asymmetric information; barriers to entry and exit; oligopoly, collusion, poor enforcement of contract; too many buyers chasing too few sellers; and and and (sounds like conditions for Trump company). There is story that during a Logistics Messe, crowding was so bad and girls so scarce inside that they were able to charge 200 for 30 minutes and guys were paying. Management was not happy..[/QUOTE]We should post this every day next to Apollo 400 offer from Anabelle until management decides to take action to save their club or globe / sharks / Goldentime time will decide to open another club in Berlin. I will even like it if oceans will move their club to Berlin.

NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2314092]Glad you had good time, but it is insane to pay these prices. A prices are getting near more than 2 X normal price in Berlin (not including 80 Eur entry)! WTF??[/QUOTE]I don't think the price is the problem. Paying 100 extra for anal is a choice. Paying extra for extra service is not strange. Especially if you have a good time. Your suggestions are a bit strange. In weekends each and every night Artemis receives a hundred or more new visitors who are overwhelmed by the scene. They will eagerly pay extra. What are you going to say to them: Don't pay extra, accept mediocre service and in time the regulars will have a better time? Really? Artemis goes up and down and the story of TheGreenArrow is better than most recent posts. I have been to other places in Berlin. Just believe me: Artemis is the better option.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2314210]NookyNinja. I hope visitors will listen to your voice of experience.[/QUOTE]Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.

Well put, Nooky Ninja!

This should apply to other clubs as well even if Artemis may be one of the worst at the moment.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2314287]Nah, don't expect that. There will always be many more stupid morons in the world than smart people who really understand what's good for themselves. For validation, look at the state of so many "democratic" countries around the world.[/QUOTE]Yep, not going into politics and the merits of the travelling french man, but as pertains to FKK land, I agree with you.

[QUOTE=Traveller63;2312206]So what do the regulars think re customer numbers?[/QUOTE]Who is a regular per your definition?

I was in Artemis more than three times. I find the toilet without any help and I was never in room number thirteen. I don't sit at the bar claiming to be from Italy and recommend helpless mongers a / my girl. I don't punch other mongers in the back who want to take a seat on my couch. I also don't walk around and approach girls to tell them that they should immediately approach the men behind her on the couch. I don't do twelve rooms per night to keep my side business going on discreetly. I don't ask girls what they did in the room so long with the guy for only 60 Euro. I don't ask girls what this one weird customer wanted again. I don't go to a room with my niece, to pretend that she is in high demand. I don't bone one off my girlfriends after her shift in the kino to show her my love. I don't need two brothers and five cousins to overcome the fear leaving my block and going scared alone to a nightclub. I don't marry the daughter of my uncle. I don't need Artemis as a rehab because I am depressed that I found nobody who is impressed by the bling around my neck.

I didn't shot Nidal. I pay my full entry fee. I am not a regular.

But I ask myself why you didn't have read that Artemis has up to 100.000 visitors per year. The Club is open for 361 days per year, which makes an average of about 280 guests per day.

Rudloff is locked up for scamming investors. So don't care much about numbers.

If you are able to ignore all the minor side roles needed to do the presentation of the scripted spectacle right, Artemis is quite empty.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2312073]Dead right. I cannot for the life of me understand why guys go to clubs where decent service only starts at 80 or 100 per half hour when there are still clubs with lovely non-sharks around (of course in Berlin there are not other FKK options).[/QUOTE]Some mongers also wonder about why Bulgarian farmer daughters who inform themselves detailed before they move to Germoney to start living their dream -spreading legs for nice rich men, nearly like those who write here -choose to work in 30 Euro service miracle clubs. Clubs where they have to deliver the good grandpa service fifteen times per day, instead of working in a Club where they get payed double the rate for doing half of the work.

Tough choice for independent young women. The dying Pott need more support. The agency should write more stories about the heaven, the joy, the 7th world wonder a monger can experience outside of the very only Club in Germany which is nix good.

[QUOTE=TheGreenArrow;2314058]... I hope for my Kollege hier a perfect time with real beauties, please go even Hawaii, Living room, Aca, or GT to know what is real woman, real, service girls. ...[/QUOTE]Hawaii is a very nice club too. They even sponsor their own monger board with an awesome writer to generate good reviews. Not quite dumb. The best club of the world.

The free alcohol in LR may help to judge the lineup as "out of this world". You just need to keep the balance on the bar stool, then you can pop 9 times without going to the room. So beautiful. The best club of the world.

Aca, Velbert? Still open? Or Gold?

Doesn't matter. The best clubs of the world. Fair extra prices for bareback activities delivered by supermodels who don't like modelling.

GT the best club of the world. Only orderly people. The place to be for former comrades who know how to greet with their right arm. Open till late in the night. Amazing.

Thanks for the hints. I would go there every day.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2314098]Did you ask her how much she wants for anal 800?[/QUOTE]I am not Apollo12. But he wrote in his report:

[QUOTE=Apollo12;2313870]She say we can stay one hour with full service for 400. ...[/QUOTE]From my understanding "full service" includes anal. He declined this offer.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2314411]Hawaii is a very nice club too. They even sponsor their own monger board with an awesome writer to generate good reviews. Not quite dumb. The best club of the world.

The free alcohol in LR may help to judge the lineup as "out of this world". You just need to keep the balance on the bar stool, then you can pop 9 times without going to the room. So beautiful. The best club of the world.

Aca, Velbert? Still open? Or Gold?

Doesn't matter. The best clubs of the world. Fair extra prices for bareback activities delivered by supermodels who don't like modelling.

GT the best club of the world. Only orderly people. The place to be for former comrades who know how to greet with their right arm. Open till late in the night. Amazing.

Thanks for the hints. I would go there every day.[/QUOTE]I cannot really understand your post. These are not the best clubs in Germany, but they are definitely top for service. Hawaii, I agree less, but had some good times there.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2314421]I am not Apollo12. But he wrote in his report:

From my understanding "full service" includes anal. He declined this offer.[/QUOTE]Well, as much as I do appreciate your understanding, from your few extreme responses here, I don't really trust your view or understand your multiple incoherent rants.

I will entertain a post from you for the last time, full service by default definition, means including sex. FKK doesn't have that full service vocabulary, but it could mean all extras included, it could mean only strong GFE included with kissing licking etc. For anyone that knows Anabelle, she doesn't give strong GFE and doesn't offer all extras and services that other girls offer. Therefore, the question "what does she want 800?" It doesn't matter at this point what's her service as it becomes irrelevant.

I wish you luck. You are added to my ignore list.

Hi guys,

I haven't been to Artemis in about a year. Is it still good on a Friday / Saturday late night? Which do you recommend for amount of girls / quality? Oase, Artemis, Sharks or FKK world?

Does anyone know the drink prices in Artemis?

Thank you.