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[QUOTE=AlexKrom;2048161]Hi guys,

I need some help please.

I am new to this scene and I am thinking about visiting one of the FKK clubs next week. Since I started reading the posts I noticed that there is a ton of options with a lot of variety that is confusing for someone who wants to decide which club to go for the first time.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could point me in the right direction or send me useful information / reviews / links, etc. In order to find the best option what should I do? Read all the threads and try to extract the useful parts or there is a place that I can find summarized information / ratings / reviews?

Let me know what your suggestions are for a first time visit. If you could throw in your own ranking based on your experience it would be great (based on facilities, size, line up, price, etc.).

Regards.[/QUOTE]I was in your shoes a couple of weeks ago. I read dozens of pages of each forum for every club I was even remotely going to be near. I sent PMs to senior members asking for advice. There is so much information here, that it eventually led me to analysis paralysis. Eventually, I chose GT because:

1) I would be relatively close on a day when I would have several hours to burn.

2) It does not have a reputation for upselling.

3) The ladies have a wide variety of ethnicity.

My review is here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2589-Sauna-Club-Golden-Time-Bruggen&p=2048211&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2048211.

I recommend you just pick a club, read up on it here so you know what to expect, and go. Any club you pick will most likely have some dead fish and some superstars. Relax. Enjoy yourself. Even if your first session is average, you'll still most likely have fun. Maybe you'll get lucky and have a fantastic session. Both happened to me.

Good luck!

Not even close to top end FKK calibre. If she's your dream girl you better bring a lot of Euro with you to FKK land.

I've been thinking about this post 24/7 since you made it, can you tell me where the top FKK calibre is? I've been at sharks everyday for 8 days straight about 10 hrs a day.

And nothing even comes close to this girl, I would love to know where these girls you were pumping up are at?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2048547]I always had better service in LR than in Babylon.[/QUOTE]I don't have much experience at Bab, but latest at LR my picks weren't so good(not on the level of last year which was great).

Last year was great no doubt, which got me hyped. Of course this depeds on your taste and who you take, and the outcomes. Samya was the better visit for me this time around. But, this may not mean much since Rose was ex-GT at Samya.

Hard to say what my service odds between Aca and Samya this time as I ran into the best provider at Aca, but definately my visit to LR was lower than the 3 this time around, at least not match last year's.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2048621]Not even close to top end FKK calibre. If she's your dream girl you better bring a lot of Euro with you to FKK land.

I've been thinking about this post 24/7 since you made it, can you tell me where the top FKK calibre is? I've been at sharks everyday for 8 days straight about 10 hrs a day.

And nothing even comes close to this girl, I would love to know where these girls you were pumping up are at?[/QUOTE]A quote, or name of the poster you are referring to, or a name of the girl (s) you are talking about might help. I am confused.

Like I've said before, one should probably sample 10 girls before rating a club on their average girls... so perhaps Optimists mentionned finca and world sucks. I just pay too much trust in some posters... perhaps Optimist is some sort of pimp king? Lol

Triptogamont: I thought you were gonna visit more than just 1 club?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2048621]Not even close to top end FKK calibre. If she's your dream girl you better bring a lot of Euro with you to FKK land.

I've been thinking about this post 24/7 since you made it, can you tell me where the top FKK calibre is? I've been at sharks everyday for 8 days straight about 10 hrs a day.

And nothing even comes close to this girl, I would love to know where these girls you were pumping up are at?[/QUOTE]I made a club ranking post that was labelled by Takedown as NRW propaganda on May 30. You will see in that post that Sharks ranked #5 on my visit, albeit a Sunday visit. I won't offend the Hessen fans again but imo there was nothing special at Sharks on my single visit. Your mistake is you went to Sharks 8 days in a row instead of going to the 10-15 main clubs in Hessen and NRW. Not sure why someone would do this? Even without a car you had many days to get around by train.

That was my post Pistons responding to a photo of his dream girl he posted on this thread on May 30.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2048850]I made a club ranking post that was labelled by Takedown as NRW propaganda on May 30. You will see in that post that Sharks ranked #5 on my visit, albeit a Sunday visit. I won't offend the Hessen fans again but imo there was nothing special at Sharks on my single visit. Your mistake is you went to Sharks 8 days in a row instead of going to the 10-15 main clubs in Hessen and NRW. Not sure why someone would do this? Even without a car you had many days to get around by train.

That was my post Pistons responding to a photo of his dream girl he posted on this thread on May 30.[/QUOTE]Sorry there are not 10 or 15 main clubs in Hessen, top clubs are Shark, Oase, World all the others are not at the same level of premises, LU etc. This is not saying that the other clubs are not worth a visit just not at the same level.

Ok, who is your Harley Quinn girl at Samya? I hardly saw anyone resembling Harley Quinn there on my 2 visits (friday and sunday). But there were 2 girls with hair up in one ponytail instead of 2 (blonde francesca and ex-oceans girl Irene (or Ingrid?) With brown hair)

[QUOTE=Pistons;2048925]Ok, who is your Harley Quinn girl at Samya? I hardly saw anyone resembling Harley Quinn there on my 2 visits (friday and sunday). But there were 2 girls with hair up in one ponytail instead of 2 (blonde francesca and ex-oceans girl Irene (or Ingrid?) With brown hair)[/QUOTE]Why, it's my big booty baroness Leya Falcon all "dolled" up!

If PL or I had a name we wouldn't be calling her Harley Quinn. She has almost silver-white hair with pink tips and tied in 2 small ponytails. She is purposely trying to look like Harley Quinn. She is around 19, 165 cm without shoes, skinny, very perky small be cups but look great on her body. I did see her with her hair down one night. Definitely not Francesca.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2048925]Ok, who is your Harley Quinn girl at Samya? I hardly saw anyone resembling Harley Quinn there on my 2 visits (friday and sunday). But there were 2 girls with hair up in one ponytail instead of 2 (blonde francesca and ex-oceans girl Irene (or Ingrid?) With brown hair)[/QUOTE]Maybe she wan't there on your visit. Medium height, light skinned with platinum blonde pigtails. We call her Harley Quin due to her hair style.

She stood out very noticibly because she was very active, dancing, moving around alot, on stage dancing as well. Hard to miss.

Pistons, PL, BB:

I believe FreeDude told everyone what Harley Quinn's club name is and rated her service level.

Pistons, so much for the "Internet information age"? It appears three of the most active ISGers missed it. Online reviews have minimal effect on the reputation of most FKK WGs, especially at the Turkish dominant clubs. Private escorts are different, since reviewers tend to be much braver.

Evita (Sharks) are probably the only ones that have an established online brand. People also tend to remember Sirioja's favorites because he mentions them a lot. For the other 95% of FKK WGs, I believe word-of-mouth still has the most effect on a WG's brand. This entails attending the clubs, and speaking with other mongers (preferably regulars). So old-fashioned networking. I can walk up to a regular, point at the WG and ask him what he knows. When he doesn't know, he walks over to one of the other regulars and asks for me.

And one might have read on the internet either admitting it or not. Many guys, myself included hides it sometimes. Lol. And again, name is not that important when we have descriptions...

PL: I was there 2 nights. I also got me a free entry ticket. Now guess how I managed that... lol

Seems FreeDude was guessing it was this Kim girl. Then again the Kim name brings only bad memories now. I asked for Kim (I know its a different club) at Oase to see who she was and all the fuzz lately, believing in descriptions from here and elsewhere only to find out the receptionist at Oase only knew 1 Kim there. An african girl. Lol! I am guessing the Oase romanian blonde Kim may be a name faker... or are the receptionists playing jokes on us?
lol! could she be the same girl as my new Ina? So many questions... lol

[QUOTE=Pistons;2049156] And again, name is not that important when we have descriptions...
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Seems FreeDude was guessing it was this Kim girl.[/QUOTE]Descriptions by themselves aren't always useful. Depends on size of the club. And distinguishable features of the WG. Slim 165 cm, dark hair, RO doesn't help anybody. There still exists the small possibility that FD, BB, PL are not talking about same WG. There could have been more than one dancing, pig-tailed Harley Quinn look alike. Sharing photos among the three eye witnesses would probably eliminate all confusion.

With regards to Lily ACA, you mentioned that she may have improved her service because she realized her negative online brand as "Barbara" affected her business. This would be valid argument only if there were many negative online reviews of "Barbara" floating around. But here's what I found: zero reports on Dutch board, zero reports on French board, two reports on German board two years ago but they were both positive.

In the end it doesn't matter what you and I think. The WGs have to believe that their online reputation has a real effect on their business, for them to change their behavior. Diana at Sharks seems to be for most upper 90th percentile optics, she's well known and reported, and generally those reports are negative. If what you believe is true, she should have changed her behavior by now. If she notices that her customer interaction start off super positive, but then a customer's body language immediately goes cold as soon as she reveals her name is "Diana", trust me she will change her behavior. But this is probably not happening regularly, so Diana hasn't changed. Maybe she will improve her offerings in the future, but WGs tend to do that once their looks fade with age.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;2048554]Well, then you are the exception. I like LR at the moment and you can find some good girls there, but there are also some duds (often from Acapulco or samya). At the top of my head: Antonia, Elli, Haicha and Sofia (former Emma) as girls that don't DFK. And with girls like Linda, Luana and in my opinion also Amira, you can hardly call it real DFK. The kissing on the couch in Babylon is normally better than what these do in the room.
.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list. I've only been with one girl in your list, Amira, and it was above average but nothing special. I know the reputation of some of the other girls (Linda, Luana, Haicha / Haifa?) and you're certainly right.

I never had any problems with DFK in Babylon but even with some "stars" of the club, Kitty and Maya, there was nothing spectacular. On the opposite side, most of my sessions in LR have been better than the sessions with those two.

Hello,

Looks like I'll have the opportunity to drive over from Holland on June 30th. I can be at GT by 5:30 pm or at LR by 6:00 pm. I've read here that GT is more of a daytime club, and I did enjoy LR at night a couple months back. Which would you pick at that time of day on Friday the 30th?

Thank you.