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I want to go back for 2 weeks in Dec - Does anyone know of another cheaper hotel with a pool that is not too old? - looking for tiled floors ... 2 weeks at $48 is a little steep …
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You can save by staying out on Perimeter. Places like the Clarkton, Hana, Sunset Gardens are 20-35 a night. Yes, they can be older, but not really that bad and rooms are generally large. You will also save money going to the Perimeter Bars. People seem to think there are prettier girls on Fields, but I disagree. There are MORE girls in the Fields Bars, but it is mostly the lights and more makeup. I go 4 times a year for 2-3 weeks each time by using this method. Even take side trips to Cebu and Boracay with a girl and still don't spend more than $3500 a trip.

[quote]I want to go back for 2 weeks in Dec. Does anyone know of another cheaper hotel with a pool that is not too old?. Looking for tiled floors. 2 weeks at $48 is a little steep.

It is a scene and I had a great time. The drive to airport was on 50 minutes at 12:30am midnight departure.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]To Coremine

Central Park sister hotel of Pacific Breeze last time I stay there 32 usd a night just around the corner they will give you a pool pass to go use the pool at pacific but the room is smaller and not as nice there same management same good service.

Fast eddie 48

Is there any place that does the "soapy" massage like in Thailand? I will be headed out to angeles and manila late dec to early January. Which would be better for new years? Also I am looking for a number of a reasonable and reliable driver. Thanks for the help.

I am looking for a massage parlor that does the "soapy" massage like in thailand. Any place that you guys know of that fits the bill?

Back home from my recent first trip to AC, which was fun and interesting in different ways than I had imagined it would be. From what’s posted on this thread, I don’t have much to add so here are some quick thoughts, experiences, and memories from my trip (from the viewpoint of an early 30s, ABC):


TRANSPORTATION

I took a taxi from Clark Airport to Pacific Breeze’s front door and the young taxi driver didn’t turn on the meter. At first I was kind of nervous, but after chatting with him in a friendly manner the whole 15 minute ride, he quoted me 200 pesos at the end, which sounded like the right price.

Riding around on Fields Ave on the trikes cost 50 pesos to go a very short distance, like from a bar on Perimeter back to my hotel and cost 100 pesos to go a bit farther, like my hotel to AC 1 gym. Trikes never wanted to bargain and would just ride off if I tried. Guess business is pretty good…

HOTELS AND ACCOMIDATION

I stayed at the Pacific Breeze’s Jacuzzi room and they are big, spacious, and provides a good view of the pool, but overall, were not an efficient use of money ($75/night). The huge queen (king?) bed was useful for when I brought more than one gal home, but the jacuzzi takes forever to fill up and the water never gets hot enough. The staff are nice and efficient, especially the sweet cleaning staff.

I would go back there if I had a longer-term GF or someone special to spend time with, otherwise for the usual bargirl, I’ll get something at about 50% of the cost in any of the nearby hotels like Central Park, Orchid Hotel, or Swiss Chalet.

Plenty of laundry places to wash, dry, and fold your stuff at about 30-45 pesos per pound (kilogram?) of clothing. A bit more if you do it through your hotel but I enjoyed walking around the town and to/from the laundry place.

One more thing is that as soon as you check into any hotel, I would recommend you clear out the fridge and put all the drinks, chips, snacks etc. in an isolated area in your room, probably the closet. Then go to the local grocery store and stock up on your own drinks and snacks. After the first night drinking and eating the hotel stuff with a bar girl, I realized what a rip-off it was, at an average of 50-100% markup over retail price. Same goes for bathroom toiletries. Amazingly, things like toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, and razors are NOT included in the price of the room but are “helpfully” available in the bathroom at 50-100% markup over retail. Stock up on toiletries the same time you buy drinks and snacks.

FOOD

The majority of the food in the Fields area is “greasy-spoon diner fare” in my opinion, with pizza, burgers, subs, wings, ice cream and beer the staples. Fresh fruits and vegetables were a rare sight in any of the local places I saw. No wonder countless obese Filipinas and foreigners were out and about everyday…it was like being back in the States in many ways. I’m based in China now where it’s rare to see more than 1-2 truly obese people per day, so it was an interesting change of pace.

Without being overly careful with what I spent on food, I averaged about 250 pesos +/- 50 pesos per meal. I thought it wasn’t too bad but overall, eating at the nearby SM Mall turned out to be the best value. Incredibly, eating at the food court at the mall cost from 150-200 for the equivalent (or usually better) of what was available on Fields. The mall is only about 10 minutes walk from my hotel/heart of Fields, but I guess that’s too much of a deterrent for a lot of folks…

SERVICES

I brought my quad-band mobile phone and it was easy to buy a Globe SIM card and start calling and sending txt messages. Recharge stations are everywhere and you could recharge amounts as small as 20 pesos which a convienent use of pocket change, although the shop owner will be wondering if you are a local, a cheap-ass, or a poor-ass if you are charging 20 pesos to your mobile, ha....

Coming from China, decent massage at great prices are everywhere so I assumed that it would be too much of a drop-off in AC, but I was wrong. I tried two food massages, across from the Jollibee (98 pesos) and directly across from Margarita Station (350 pesos). The oily body massages I tried were Joy’s across from the Mister Frostee (400 pesos) and the massage place next to Wet Spot bar (500 pesos).

At every place, the massage gal tried her best, but I was left with the feeling that an inexperienced girlfriend was trying to make me happy; it was earnest effort, but lacking professional skill. They were all nice and friendly and good to chat with but the massages were largely forgettable and not very hygienic or professional in execution.

Experiencing the bar atmosphere for the first time was interesting because I expected a bit more wildness and energy. Instead, the vast majority of the bars were small, unevenly lit places where 10-20 girls in bikinis shuffled/stood/leaned on an elevated stage. The girls definitely reflected whatever energy you gave, but if you didn’t want to be “the life of the party”, there was going to be no party in most of these bars, ha ha…

I estimate that 70-80% of the bar girls on stage from any random bar were fat/ugly/unattractive/unfuckable. I was amazed that they would be on stage and in a bikini. I have no idea how these gals made money beyond a daily salary…who would want to buy them a ladydrink much less barfine?? But that being said, there were more plenty of attractive bar gals but you needed to use time and energy to find them. I was told the best looking gals are all in Manila and I would agree that the majority of AC bar gals have either a too young/too innocent/too fat/too countryside/too ugly/too hardened look about them but that probably is one of their main attractions, too.

Overall, I found the most attractive Filipinas were several mall workers in the SM Mall, particularly at the Watsons, a certain woman’s clothing shop, and the Kenny Rogers Roasters (!). All were friendly and open to chat and exchanging phone numbers within 10 minutes of conversation. The main problem I had was what to do with the gals after arranging dates…neither they nor I wanted to go bar hopping and so I ended up doing things I usually don’t do, as in watching a movie at the mall (great bargain at 100 pesos), shopping at the mall, and having a facial at the mall. These mall girls are pretty practical and know what’s going on in the Fields bars so pushing for sex was expected and rewarded. And actually, more than a few of the mall workers have second jobs as waitresses or bar girls.

“The Filipina GFE” was touted as “guaranteed” by many of my friends who love AC and I do agree the average Filipina experience in AC was more warm and passionate than in other places but there was also a lot more emotional drama from normal gals and bargirls alike if you treated them too well and nicely because they would then assume you are their honeyko or semi-boyfriend, even after one night. And damn if you don’t reply to their mobile phone txt messages in 5 seconds or less! You’ll get another 3 asking what is wrong with you, ha…

My favorite bars in no particular order: Las Vegas, Lancelot, Dollhouse, Neros, Blue Nile, and Lolipops. I only checked out about 20 bars during my weeklong stay, so I know there are many more to explore next time. I was kind of confused about the barfines, too, because they ran from 1200 to 1300 to 1350 pesos. I know that certain bars have been increasing the barfines recently and it seems to be an unstoppable trend that has many of the longtime AC mongers steamed.

*****

Overall, an interesting experience and I didn’t even mind the random shouts of “Korean!” or “Japanese!”, ha ha…I would usually walk over to whoever said it and chat with them to let them realize I was born in the USA, which seems to be a big positive in their eyes, especially with regular gals and bar gals. I will be back soon and hope to expand my Filipina experience.

Below are some pics I took.

1. innocent gal (beautiful face and body but was too inexperienced and service was non-existent)
2. innocent gal again
3. innocent leg
4. innocent breast
5. double trouble (excellent tag-team service)
6. double trouble 2
7. double trouble tall and fit gal
8. double trouble medium height and big breasts gal
9. Fields in the glorious daylight
10. SM Mall


Thanks again for all the useful information posted in this thread but most of all to my non-posting buddy who showed me around AC, you know who you are...

J

I have been to AC many time but never really found a non-smoking restaurant.
since July the Uk has been totally N/S. Prior to AC i will be in Davao which is also N/S, so it will very hard to going into smokey restaurants again. r there any good N/S restaurants in the S & M mall?

I was in Treasure Island last week during the afternoon, and most of the dancers were cherry girls. I was told 4 or maybe 5 out of 6, if my memory is right. At least some of them will do BJ according to the waitresses.

I just did a waitress instead.

[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]TRANSPORTATION

I took a taxi from Clark Airport to Pacific Breeze’s front door and the young taxi driver didn’t turn on the meter. At first I was kind of nervous, but after chatting with him in a friendly manner the whole 15 minute ride, he quoted me 200 pesos at the end, which sounded like the right price.

J[/QUOTE]

What airlines did you use to arrive at Clark and from where did the flight originate? I am looking at flying in to Clark next time I visit.

Mugroso

[QUOTE=Mugroso]What airlines did you use to arrive at Clark and from where did the flight originate? I am looking at flying in to Clark next time I visit.

Mugroso[/QUOTE]


Tiger Airways, Macau to Clark. Very cheap, fast, and convienent. Check their website.


J

[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]Tiger Airways, Macau to Clark. Very cheap, fast, and convienent. Check their website.
J[/QUOTE]
Tiger also from Singapore into Clarke and Air Asia from KL and KK.
Usually I have less than an hour between touchdown and first shot. :D
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Bold Focker] r there any good N/S restaurants in the S & M mall?[/QUOTE]Even San Francisco doesn't have a S & M mall. (hehe) SM (formerly ShoeMart) is clean and smoke free (although I have occasionally seen a smoker at the coffee kiosks). There are plenty of non-fast food restaurants to enjoy. Check the restaurants in the south central semicircle and outside the mall past the west central "food fair". Outside are Ikabud for authenic Filipino food, Yellow Table Pizza, and couple of other places with interesting menus.

Also: Asiana (Inchon), Cebu Pacific (Cebu City), SEAIR-South East Asian Airlines (Manila, Boracay)

Ekspat,. You wrote a comment in pic gallery:

"Me as a boobs lover, which bar is the girl in pic#8 from?

My catch last weekend from Jakarta. "

I am also a boobs lover,. And mongered all over latin american and russia, urkaine. Now I'm considering asia, and checking all the pic galleries. I'm New at this forum. My basic question to you, and all others here,. Is how do breast sizes and form compare between the chicks of phillipines, indnonesia, thai, cambodia, etc? (I'm pretty picky about finding very hourglass shaped gals,. Kinda slim, but with a full set of 'peach' or 'oranges'-sized bosom. What are my chances in these countries? ) I like asians, but their frontal fruit often lacks compared to, say, the mulattas and negritas of Columbia, DR, Cuba, etc.

(PS. Ukrainians looked good on dating sites but many had stuffed bras when I undressed 'them. And columbians have a lot of plastic silicone ones!)

[QUOTE=Drignotum]I am looking for a massage parlor that does the "soapy" massage like in thailand. Any place that you guys know of that fits the bill?[/QUOTE]

try Star Trek in Paranaque Manila near Air Force 1, a little pricey but a treat every now and then.

[QUOTE=Johnnykon666]HOTELS AND ACCOMIDATION

I stayed at the Pacific Breeze’s Jacuzzi room and they are big, spacious, and provides a good view of the pool, but overall, were not an efficient use of money ($75/night). The huge queen (king?) bed was useful for when I brought more than one gal home, but the jacuzzi takes forever to fill up and the water never gets hot enough. The staff are nice and efficient, especially the sweet cleaning staff.

I would go back there if I had a longer-term GF or someone special to spend time with, otherwise for the usual bargirl, I’ll get something at about 50% of the cost in any of the nearby hotels like Central Park, Orchid Hotel, or Swiss Chalet.



Coming from China, decent massage at great prices are everywhere so I assumed that it would be too much of a drop-off in AC, but I was wrong. I tried two food massages, across from the Jollibee (98 pesos) and directly across from Margarita Station (350 pesos). The oily body massages I tried were Joy’s across from the Mister Frostee (400 pesos) and the massage place next to Wet Spot bar (500 pesos).

At every place, the massage gal tried her best, but I was left with the feeling that an inexperienced girlfriend was trying to make me happy; it was earnest effort, but lacking professional skill. They were all nice and friendly and good to chat with but the massages were largely forgettable and not very hygienic or professional in execution.

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The part you talk about the hotel is a point I keep trying to make on this forum. Spending $75 on a room is unnecessary in the Phils. I have stayed in very expensive hotels in the US (and paid for them personally), but you will almost always be disappointed in the Phils. Even if you have a special girl, don't do it. You don't need to impress them that way. That is part of the test you give them. If they are disapponted staying in a $25 a nite room, then dump them. Let them be impressed by you, not what you spend.

For a good massage, go to Royal K near the Casino. It is off MacArthur near the ATM machines.

By the bars you listed, you didn't go to the Perimeter Bars. You will have a great time out there, if you have the right attitude. Don't be a bump on a log and expect the world to bow to you. Where else can you ring a bell and have every girl in the joint take their clothes off? Fields controls the fun, the Perimeter you can make your own party.