Prague

hi 2729,

on this and other czr forums there are reports which generally are bad about outcall. the main complaint is about 'bait and switch'.

if you are an experienced outcall mongerer who is able to convince the receptioniste that you will not pay unless the girl is as described, and are big enough to face down the accompanying gorilla, then it is worth a try. otherwise, outcall is a waste of time.

my tips:

when speaking to the receptioniste let her know firmly exactly the sort of lady you are after. several times.

then ask if there is a refusal fee.

then say that the refusal fee will only be paid if if if the lady is as described, and that you will not pay for anyone outside the required age/size/performance criteria.

when the lady arrives, check through the door peephole or open it just a little. only let her in if she is the right size and age. if not, keep her outside and say to her that you are ringing the agency as there seems to be some mistake.

then ring the agency and ask for an explanation of the difference.

if they offer to replace the lady at no charge, say you will wait. under no circumstances give the lady any money as she will disappear and you will not see her, or a replacement or your money ever again.

if they do not agree to any of the above, just keep the door shut, the lady on the other side and if there is any trouble, ring the front desk and let them call the cops.

if you think any of the above is too hard, then do not even attempt outcall in prague as you will get ripped off. (of course if being humiliated is your thing, then you can ignore my comments - lol).

showpark is a good place to start for first timers in prague.
taxis are almost as bad a ripoff as the outcall places unless you are similarly up to their tricks. the public transport system otoh is brilliant and cheap (and stops outside showpark).

if you like prague, then the best long term bet is to learn some czech. you will get better quality ladies and service for much cheaper than non-czech speakers. the reason for this is that obviously ladies who have the language skills will charge more for their services. they also will be able to read international forums and know what people pay in other countries - and the czechs who speak english/deutsch usw are smart enough to charge those international prices. the ladies from the back provinces who do not speak a foreign language, and the smaller agency owners likewise, can only charge what the local cz market will bear, and that is much cheaper than the international market.

Yesterday I did outcall with Prague passions. The girls look like on the picture and they exactly do as had been told over the mail. They do speak English very well if that is what is indicated in the description. Price is 250 USD per 2 hours. Maybe a bit expensive but at least you know beforehand what you are getting. I will surely do it again. I tried several other ones without pictures and I always felt ript off.

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For example, I can get the most beautiful super models tall, blond girls here in Australia for between 60 to 150 Euros per hour and in some cases I can stay all night for under $300 Euros. There are also to many free GFE opportunities to be had here and I have several girls I am seeing right now aged between 19 and 26 for free.

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Hello friend, it seems to me, that you have the heaven at your own home in Australia and that besides that CZ is something new for you, it cannot offer you something much better, I am afraid something worst...

However all it depends of your budget and how much time you have.
Considering the chance that you can take one month of holiday, I think Prague worth it to be seen for 3-4 days, maybe you will not get super GFE but the city is really nice.
It also depends if you want to travel till Europe to stay all the time in the same place or to see more than one state?

If I was you, I'd visit surely Prague for a weekend, but not the smaller city outside Prague, ( losing time, money, energy to get nothing better than in Prague, besides a bit cheaper price), than another european capital could be Varsaw, the girls are nice and cheaper than Prague.

Then surely I will not miss motherland Russia, another weekend in Moscow, expensive but there is nothing as Moscow buddy!!
Then St. Pitersburg, cheaper, even better girls with a lot of privates with cheaper price than in Prague and much much better looking girls.

In some way Ukraine, can be a good alternative too, but I prefer russian girls instead of ukranian, cause even if ukranian look a bit better, the attitude of russian ones is much better. The only thing where Ukraine wins on Russia is no need visa.

However my suggest is not to hurry, take a lot of time to read many reports to be able to choose the right places-states that will make you worth your long travel till here.

Cheers.

P.S: I wrote you a PM.

[QUOTE=Large204]Ahoj Blastoff,

To catch a non-, or semi-pro girl in Praha is, according to me, today 99% impossible. I have been successfull sometimes in Ostrava on the local party area called Stodolni ([url]www.stodolni.cz[/url]) and there it helped me all the times to speak czech language.

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Why is it impossible? Is it because the non- or semi-pro Czech girls are not interested in any men other than those from from Czech? Or, is it a language thing?

I'm asking this because I plan to move to Czech for about a year for work. I do not speak any language other than English (although I plan to learn some Czech). So, would I not have any chance at any non-pro even if I lived there???

Also, two more questions ...

1) Is Czech an easy language to learn?
2) What is the best disco to go to in Prague to see the hottest and sexiest girls the city has to offer? I'll be there for the next two weekends and want to spend at least one Fri/Sat night away from mongering -- but still want to see some prime, top-dollar ass shaking it up on the dancefloor! Where should I go???

THANKS ALL !!!!

Bill,

In case that you will move for one year to Czech Rep. the story will be different. My comment concerned only the typical 2 or 3 nights stay in Praha, jumping through city center and it's pubs and bars looking for the Czech princess to make you happy for one night.

Coming to your questions, here are my recommendations:

1.) Czech language is very difficult, but try it! Even base vocabulary will help you, as the people recognize, that you are interested in their culture and country. At least in Praha center it is no Must, but...

2.) Prague discos: I am looking for the right disco to pick up the Czech supermodel since quite a long time, but I am still seeking :-) Have a look on [url]www.livingprague.com[/url], or [url]www.expats.cz[/url] I think both pages can help you in many cases. For me MischMasch is not bad and La Fabrique has something for everybody.

If you will be successfull to find a non-pro beauty in Praha only in 2 weekends I am not sure, but if you are a good guy, during your 1 year stay your chances are increasing :-)

Have look on [url]www.lide.cz[/url], not so bad Czech online-community, but without Czech language a little bit problematic. For easy translations I recommend [url]www.slovnik.cz[/url].

Have fun in Zlata Praha and please share your experiences with us!

[QUOTE=Chill Bill]Why is it impossible? Is it because the non- or semi-pro Czech girls are not interested in any men other than those from from Czech? Or, is it a language thing?

I'm asking this because I plan to move to Czech for about a year for work. I do not speak any language other than English (although I plan to learn some Czech). So, would I not have any chance at any non-pro even if I lived there???

Also, two more questions:

1) Is Czech an easy language to learn?

2) What is the best disco to go to in Prague to see the hottest and sexiest girls the city has to offer? I'll be there for the next two weekends and want to spend at least one Fri/Sat night away from mongering -- but still want to see some prime, top-dollar ass shaking it up on the dancefloor! Where should I go?[/QUOTE]

Hi JeanClaude,

A few questions concerning Prague Passions. On their website, the rate of 250 euros for two hours is provided rather than US dollars. Did you pay in US$? Many are listed as 12 hours minimum, which woman did you choose to see?

Thanks in advance,

Fides

[QUOTE=Chill Bill]Why is it impossible? Is it because the non- or semi-pro Czech girls are not interested in any men other than those from from Czech? Or, is it a language thing?

I'm asking this because I plan to move to Czech for about a year for work. I do not speak any language other than English (although I plan to learn some Czech). So, would I not have any chance at any non-pro even if I lived there?

Also, two more questions.

1) Is Czech an easy language to learn?

2) What is the best disco to go to in Prague to see the hottest and sexiest girls the city has to offer? I'll be there for the next two weekends and want to spend at least one Fri/Sat night away from mongering.- but still want to see some prime, top-dollar ass shaking it up on the dancefloor! Where should I go?

THANKS ALL! [/QUOTE]Czech is not an easy language. However you can quickly learn the basics to communicate if you are inclined to speak foreign languages. Czech is very essential to get girlfriends. CR is good because most people are atheists and so there is very free attitude regarding sex, nudism, prostitution etc. This means that there are lots of available girls with no morals. Many of them have boyfriends but want short time adventures. Others may want some kind of sponsoring. Even married women are available.

Another great advantage of CR is that nobody cares about the neighbour's private life. So there are no comments and a lot of freedom of choices. Nobody pays attention to anyone womanizing. (contrary to more conservative polish society).

On the other hand girls may seem very indifferent and cold cause they do not have common religious values. Somebody maybe surprised by their aloofness. Anyway the bad behaviour maybe good because they only offer sex, so you have not to compensate them for such a thing like caring, cooking, politeness etc as it happens with ukrainian girls. So the situation in CR is good if you have a hard skin and you do not care about girls' behaviour but only about sex. Chances are girls have more than one boyfriends simultaneously. They combine german and slavic mentality in unique mixture. I would say at the end slavic mentality prevails. Czech girls are not strong like german girls. They are more feminine and weak like slavic girls but they rae not so emotional like the latter, they do not have so many ups snd down, they are more stable resembling german girls in this aspect. So they are a good choice.

I also think that things are better outside Prague although Prague offers many opportunities. Girls in Prague are a bit prouder and more challenging. Province is another story. Culture is very important in CR because girls estimate spiritual things etc. Many visit operas, concerts often and have read a lot of books and travelled a lot. They maybe approachable but they want a good level of conversation. They are tolerant and may pretend in many things. In general their culture is high. Discos are not a maintsream in czech culture. Most people visit pubs and girls do so as well. In pubs there is very friendly atmosphere and possibility to make a lot of contacts. Girls who visit clubs in Prague come either from province, where clubbing is more common, or from other countries or they like a special kind of music the club provides or they are prostitutes. Some discos like disco Letna have many pros which are easy to recognize.

The best discos in Prague for pick up are

1. Disco Letna

2. Disco Karlovo Lazne

The latter is a huge 5 floor disco built besides the river with a different kind of music on every floor.

Disko Letna is amazing. I visited it many times and it was always interesting.

Disco Lavka is full of tourists like americans etc. Club Roxy is for people who want to dance rave music. Lots of hot girls but they do not speak, they just dance.

RadostFx is not bad some days when some dj's play. There can be some girls but it is not very big.

Disco golden tree (I do not know if it exists anymore) has strip show and very few girls enter, most with boyfriends.

In my opinion it is better to pick up girls on the street or in cafes. Czech girls are very easy to chat. Especially province can be a heaven. Some are gold diggers but this is another story.

Like Hecker said, czech is a difficult language. Of course there are czech girls speaking english but speaking czech will help you - on a longer term - to get more contacts and "adventures" if not girlfriend.

Hecker is right with his description of the mentality and behaviour of czech girls/women having more than one boyfriends simultaneously or looking for short term adventures.

Regardings the discos :

The Golden Tree (U Zlateho Stromu) still exists and the go-go girls are still dancing till 6h00 every day.

Karlovy Lazne is like Club Lavka : filled with tourists from Great Britain, Italy, France, Germany...

Duplex also is now a disco for tourists :( More than half of the crowd is speaking english, italian, german, french, spanish, dutch...

Disco Letna closed 2 years ago and reopened after reconstruction under his former name : Misch Masch.

Kamikaze Klub (Formerly "Face to Face") has a younger crowd with their All Inclusive programme on wed., fri. & sat.

Music bars like Solidni Nejistota, Infinity, Joe´s cafe, Celnice, Double Trouble, Techtle Mechtle, Postel... can be good place where to meet czech girls looking for fun.

Pretty girls can usually be seen at K.U. Bar. and disco Mecca.

"regular czech girls" are partying in music bars like Lucerna, Meloun or Zlate Casy where there are playing oldies and czech music.

I would advise somebody who wants to pick up czech girls to travel first for some training to Ukraine. Ukrainian girls are approachable as czech girls, maybe less but they tend to date easily and most importantly they give you directions, that is they guide you how they want to be treated. Czech girls do not give such advice. So if you get properly advised on how to treat slavic girls, then you can travel to CR and apply your training on czech girls. You will know what to do because ukrainian girls will have provided you the missing information that czech girls want to see into action but they want you to posess it, not to be advised. After Ukraine I was surprised by the comparative easiness of czech girls.

Dear Fides,

I saw the girls in Prague: price is 250 Euro for 2 hours (or you can pay 9. 000 Czech Crowns or. 370 USD). Euro is the cheapest.

I saw Kate: gorgeous girl from Slovakia. Extra for anal was 50 Euro. But she was worth every penny.

I saw Anna: she definitely looks better on the picture than in real life. She is sweet but not so good in bed. But she tried really hard.

Minimum 12 hours is only for abroad.

Still waiting for your Prague report and photos. I'm back there in 2 weeks and eager to get some deas :)

Can any one tell me the time frame for Big Sister, from when you walk in the doors of the club to getting your leg over. Thank. I am what I am.

[QUOTE=Blastoff]Dear Lukasek,

Thank you very much for your honest answers and yes it has made a difference to my travel plans. For me it is not just a matter of updating my prices but I need to determine which Eastern European countries are the best value for my money as I have to travel far to get there from my country.

For example, I can get the most beautiful super models tall, blond girls here in Australia for between 60 to 150 Euros per hour and in some cases I can stay all night for under $300 Euros. There are also to many free GFE opportunities to be had here and I have several girls I am seeing right now aged between 19 and 26 for free.[/quote]Blastoff - I am due to head down to Australia, Sydney & Gold Coast for a holiday, is there any places you recommend for those prices you have quoted and where is a good place to start for free GFE opportunities?

As a Prague newbie (I arrive in Prague on the 28th of October for 8 days) I read with interest the choices between pro-non, pro, incalls and outcalls etc.

After mongering in Argentina, Russia and the Ukraine, I find that one has to decide how much time versus money versus effort one wants to experience. I loved the Ukraine because I enjoyed the company of 5 non-pros (one for a crazed sex weekend on the Black Sea) as well as pros. Argentina (BA) was incredible because the woman are beautiful, the costs are amazing and while non-pros are difficult, the fun still remains hitting the clubs and finding your date for a few hours. Russian women require no words - but both pros and non-pros are always possible.

So this is my plan for Prague:

I have an apartment in Old Town. My plan is to try the gambit of choices. Costs are not the deciding variable nor the impetus: I want to take the week and balance my experience between incall pros (various costs and agencies), clubs and Show Park. I will report everyday to give you an immediate reaction to the day’s events. Look for my next report as I detail my first day plans.

Final note: This guide is amazing and I want to thank all those vets who take the time to help newbies like me along. If anyone cares to be a wingman during my stay please PM me as I would love to enjoy a whack of drinks and swap a few stories.

Enjoy the life

Fides

Thanks JeanClaude for your message.

In France now finishing up on some business and trying to decide my first night in Prague which starts on Sunday night. The agency you choose seems to offer the "standard" pricing but good to know that an agency is not going to bait and switch.

Did you enjoy any other agencies or clubs? Let me know if you can recommend any other choices.

Cheers and enjoy the life

Fides