Bogota Reports

Closing out Bogota.

Sad to be leaving Bogota, but I think I've done enough here. Have 2 tinder girls interested in maybe coming up to Medellin to visit. Both early 20's and good families so pretty much paying their own way, challenge is them getting leave from work.

On my last day, caught up again with the other board member, took a walk-through SF. It was a Monday and the first in the new year, unbelievable slow. And, really confirmed for me the SF street scene isn't for me. You might be excited by it at first, I was too, but personally, I prefer to pay more for a better experience. The SF club scene certainly has its place, there something special about going out drinking with some friends and knowing you could have any girl in the place.

My buddy asked me what my highlight was, and it was a girl from seeking. Dyed white, blonde, slightly punk look, perfect English (she lived in US for a while), petite build, and for me, the best figure of anyone I saw in Bogota. With her permission, I'm posting her name on SA, which is Tallulah (only one in Bogota at time of post). I know I'm wasting my time but. Don't be a dick.

Also made an appointment through an agency, did not disappoint. I've focused so much on non-pros; I've forgotten how nice and simple a complete pro can be.

I'm onto Medellin now, have a few (but less) contacts in the bag. Always keen for a drink. Let me know if you have questions or want to hang out.

P.S.

Seen a few notes lately on logistics, so here's mine, quickly:

- Only used Servibanca ATMs, they have a $2,000 k limit for overseas cards, which is great. I always decline conversion and get the Visa / Mastercard rate.

- Used LATAM for travel between Bogota and Medellin (Premium). Had to change my flight, and they were slow, but ultimately good to deal with.

- Uber the whole time. Benefit to Taxis (ordered through uber app) is that you can sit in the back rather than in the front – great if you have company.

- AirBnB – the check-in desk thing can be interesting, if you're trying to sign in guests. I had no issues, but as an observation, if you get your guests to act like the resident and head straight for elevator. You can sometimes bypass. My buddy had to sign me in once, hilarious.

Rounding up a short trip to Bogotá before heading to Medellin.

Hopefully works off a tiny piece of my debt to this forum.

Arrived New Year's Day. City was almost completely empty, and a lot of things were closed until 3rd. Photoprepagos was very tough to get replies, I believe a lot of the girls weren't working, but their adverts were still being posted automatically. Definitely improved after 3/4 Jan.

I'm not too serious about this stuff, so didn't really go into Santa Fe, but the little piece I saw wasn't exactly hopping either.

Saw two girls from eróticas Bogotá. Xiomy first, skinny, fairly pretty, but not full of confidence. My somewhat poor Spanish probably didn't help. Wouldn't repeat but don't regret it.

Zaira however was phenomenal. Think she's been mentioned on this board previously. Skinny, fantastic body and very pretty.

A few tattoos have been removed from the photos on their website. Extremely energetic, full of confidence and speaks great English. A pleasure in all respects. Can't recommend her enough.

[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;2647230]Closing out Bogota.

Sad to be leaving Bogota, but I think I've done enough here. [/QUOTE]I know exactly how that feels, since I felt sad too when I left Bogota. Even though I was there once for only a few days, it has begun to grow on me.

I would love to check the newer part of the city at Zona Rosa or Zona T the next time, since I like to go clubbing at higher end clubs with good techno, EDM and House music. Looks like I would have to use SA the next time to secure a girl or two to be my escorts, and improve on my conversational Spanish before my next trip.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2647207]There are 4 X as many women on seeking as men. In some countries, the ratio is much better for men. A $100 is nothing for men in the USA and a little harder for men in Mexico (though there are more Mexican men on seeking than anywhere), but it is more of a deterrent in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Last year a poster mentioned doing something that I had never thought of. Evidently Cupid price discriminates. He set his VPN to Argentina. When he went to pay on Cupid it was way cheaper using Argentine Pesos than what it costs paying from USA in USD or Europe in Euros. Maybe this same thing would work for Seeking.

[QUOTE=NoMoreNails;2647334]Rounding up a short trip to Bogot before heading to Medellin.

Hopefully works off a tiny piece of my debt to this forum.

Arrived New Year's Day. City was almost completely empty, and a lot of things were closed until 3rd. Photoprepagos was very tough to get replies, I believe a lot of the girls weren't working, but their adverts were still being posted automatically. Definitely improved after 3/4 Jan.

I'm not too serious about this stuff, so didn't really go into Santa Fe, but the little piece I saw wasn't exactly hopping either.

Saw two girls from erticas Bogot. Xiomy first, skinny, fairly pretty, but not full of confidence. My somewhat poor Spanish probably didn't help. Wouldn't repeat but don't regret it.

Zaira however was phenomenal. Think she's been mentioned on this board previously. Skinny, fantastic body and very pretty.

A few tattoos have been removed from the photos on their website. Extremely energetic, full of confidence and speaks great English. A pleasure in all respects. Can't recommend her enough.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the club. Report like yours makes this forum better.

Regarding Eroticas Bogota, I had a very good experience with both Hanna and Fernanda. Fernanda was passionate and l like her services.

[QUOTE=ClownDays;2646102]This is why most people have shitty SA / Facebook / Tinder / Badoo / Cupid dates and experiences. They are unwilling to do the mountain of work it takes to have a great experience.[/QUOTE]Great point. Some guys get upset when someone says no or they have a bad experience. I try to learn from my mistakes and just keep moving forward. Never give up or get frustrated, you will be surprised what might happen.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2646948]Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?[/QUOTE]I never met a girl with fake pics on SA. As for how to operate, set your search parameter to the women who are newly on seeking and go for the ones you like there the most. Your hit rate may not be as high as the ones who are on the site all the time but you are less likely to get that seasoned hos. If they have been on for multiple years, they probably are hos.

For the most part, I would refrain from setting a price unless you are asked. If she mentions a price, she is probably a WG. The best experiences I had were when no price was mentioned. Seeking had been perverted but the goal of it was to skirt USA prostitution laws. It is legal to give a gift after sex but not a wage. This was discovered by happenstance. I would text the girl say I was interested in meeting and then just forgot to talk price and yet many just showed up anyway. That does not work in the USA, girls only will meet if there are $ involved.

So yeah, do the carpet bombing thing. Send out short messages to as many as you like, Then when you have one respond, proceed to getting her WhatsApp number. You need to learn to use WhatsApp as everyone uses it. Some are using telegram now. I averaged 2 or 3 dates in Bogota and Medellin and as Don Carlos said was fucking so much my dick was going to fall off.

Other reason to use seeking is that you can get bareback. That is a problem with any of the working girls. I could not get the women to do it no matter how much I offered. I think I went bare with all but a few seeking women when I was there. Plan be is over the counter there, and I recommend you give the women that pill plan be when you are done. I never had any of them reject it.

At the time, I thought Colombian women were hotter than Mexicans and my goal was to fly them there and see them every week or two for a fuck fest. Thing is I had plenty of sex in Mexico and had no need to do it until I met a top of the line Colombian. Colombian women are valued by Mexicans because IMO you do not find many 10's in Mexico.

I know most guys are just going to use seeking to fuck. Thing is usually if you have the time it is wear better to dive deeper into a woman you like. Once you do that, you will find that Colombian women will not just suck your cock but worship it.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2646948]Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?[/QUOTE]This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after.

A week or two before a trip I set my location to where I'm going, e. G. Bogota. Then search for whatever you want, e. G. Bogota, 50 mile radius, age 18-25, etc. Then search and just start "liking" gals you like (click the heart icon). You can also message them directly.

I usually go for average girls, girl next door types; less hassle and more willing to please than Instagram model type bitches. Remember, even the average girl in Bogota is hot compared to most western bitches.

If it is more than a few weeks away I wouldn't bother as they will lose interest. One week before is ideal.

Response rate for me was about 30% for the inital chat. Maybe 1 in ten you will actually meet.

Even though I barely speak Spanish I do all messaging in Spanish using google translate and copy and paste. You can also translate the girls mesages on your phone by touching the girls message and holding, it then lets you "select all" then "translate" to English right on the screen.

Once they reply then send a few mesages in chat such as "Hola". "Soy Pussycat", "Como Estas". (Hi, I'm pussycat, how are you).

Then just move it to WhatsApp (Which they all have) by saying "Tienes WhatsApp?

If they reply with their number just add a contact on WhatApp then start chatting there.

I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.

As for the James Bond shit claimed by some, having "game", banging chicks for free yada yada yada. Sure, do that if you want but when time is of the essence on a short vacation just slap the money on the table and get laid. By the time you have banged one chick "for free" after having wined and dined her at expensive restaurants and hotels I will have paid for and banged five gals from the barrios. When I was 25 I was banging models for free. At 55, I just pay.

You can order an Uber / Didi to pick them up or you can reimburse them when they arrive.

I shift it to WhatApp because SA claims to ban users who "solicit pro**itution" which is of course bullshit because that's what SA is a platform for, but whatever, I wouldn't discuss trading money for sex directly on the app. Plus, gals always check messages on WhatsApp all the time whereas they might only go on SA every few days.

Another good reason to move it to WhatsApp is because if you get in a fight with a girl on the app they can report you and get you banned. If you are outside the app there is nothing they can do.

Generally any girls with English in her profile or claiming to speak English will charge more. And any girl quoting a price in dollars is trying to charge more.

Assuming you are in Bogota I wouldnt bother trying to meet anyone who isn't in Bogota. I sent $30 to one gal for a bus to Bogota and then she instantly starting begging for money so I didn't end up meeting her.

I would tell them they need an ID to meet you ("Cedula") to make sure they are 18 and that they are legit. For two reasons: pro**itution is illegal under 18 in Colombia and they are less likely to scam / rob you if you see there ID. You can even ask hem to send a picture of it if you want.

Hide / lock up all your shit when they come to you room. Don't take drugs / drink alcohol with them as they could drug and rob you. It never happended to me, but it has happened.

Almost all gals I contacted were willing to trade sex for money. This is what I got quoted or what I actually paid in Bogota (4,000 COP / USD):

Instagram model types: $150+/2 hrs (600,000 COP+).

Gals speaking English well: 400,000 COP /2 hrs.

Average girl: 200-250 k COP + Ubers (20-40 k COP).

Low end: 150 k COP /2-3 hrs.

I suggest an opening gambit of 200 k ("200 mil") plus Ubers for 2 hrs.

Typical session for me was BBBJ, CFS. Other stuff by negotiation.

A few actual gals I met on SA in Bogota:

A medical student.

An English teacher.

Several gals from the barrio (slums) in the south.

A gal claiming she had an online store.

A Venezulean claiming she was divorced from a Chinese guy and was visiting her sister in Bog.

A gal who delivered fire extinguishers.

Naysayers wil trash SA as a overpriced platform and maybe it is, but I think it has some merits. And I know, you can get a streetwalker for 30 K in SF but remember, that's a 15 minute quickie in a shitty short time room in a disgusting RLD, versus 2 hrs of GFE like experience in you own room. You can't equate the two.

No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647591]This is how I use SA in Bog:
I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.[/QUOTE]I wanted to ask about the Uber, I use it when I travel, so sparsely. Do you order the ride on your phone or just reimburse. On the later, I would assume they try to say it was a long. Way.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647591]This is how I use SA in Bog:

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No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.[/QUOTE]I greatly appreciate all these info that you had provided. Thank you.

How does it work when you want to extend sessions in Santa Fe? Do you give the girl more money and then she gets dressed, goes out to pay more money at the office, and then comes back? Or would it better to get dressed yourself, go to the office to pay for more time in the room, and then come back to pay the girl for another rato?

[QUOTE=Trim1;2647708]How does it work when you want to extend sessions in Santa Fe? Do you give the girl more money and then she gets dressed, goes out to pay more money at the office, and then comes back? Or would it better to get dressed yourself, go to the office to pay for more time in the room, and then come back to pay the girl for another rato?[/QUOTE]Usually the girl will go and pay-- If you already know her You can arrange it up front.

If you do not know her it is a good idea to do one and extend.

Just tell the girl you want more time, give her more money and hotel money for extended time. She would call out to someone to come and take the money.

I find it much sexier when I am with the girl on a nice, clean bed. I took this girl tel, had her walk to my hotel for an hour for 100 M. She was skinny but nice, fun, camera loving. Had a big erection with her and could not wait to penetrate, lasted only half hour. A wingman took a girl on taxi to his condo. She stayed a couple hours for nonstop BB sex, all for 40 M. A lot of girls would walk out of the muddy calles to your hotel if you give them some extras.

Hotel Europa is 1 star hotel on Calle 23 next to Car 15 at the edge of Santa Fe, but rooms are fairly large, nice, clean, bright, clean sheets and towels, costs only 40 M a night plus 20 M to bring in girls, but you can negotiate with that guy.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2646948]Thanks for that info. This is really helpful. I went into SA and did an initial scan of those in Bogota. Many of them in fact look good. Of course, I will never know if any of them are catfish, but I would tend filter out those that look too good to be true, such as model photo shoots.

If I may ask, how do you typically operate within this platform? Do you initiate a chat with them directly and then bring up the services that they are willing to offer etc?

What is the typical response rate from the girls in those list? How far ahead do you usually initiate contact with them?[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention, all the girls I met on SA looked exactly like their pics. Some even looked better in person. If you meet them outside your building and you don't like them, or their pics were heavily filtered, just pay them their Uber fare with maybe a little extra for goodwill and say goodbye. They arent gonna summon up the ghost of Pablo Escobar to come after you.

To me, Bogota runs like that song, "The Hills:

"Im just tryna get u out the friendzone.

Cause you look even better than the photos.

I just fucked two bitches 'fore I saw you.

You gon' have to do it at my tempo.

And I only fuck you when its half past five." Haha.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2647675]I greatly appreciate all these info that you had provided. Thank you.[/QUOTE]No problem, that's what this board is for.