Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Diviant;2647672]I wanted to ask about the Uber, I use it when I travel, so sparsely. Do you order the ride on your phone or just reimburse. On the later, I would assume they try to say it was a long. Way.[/QUOTE]There are few ways of doing it:

First of all, there is one big advantage of arranging her transportation: you know where she is and when she will arrive, vs waiting around for her to show up.

Plus, girls are more likley to show up if you pay their transportation. Some of them are flat broke.

On Uber you can select "arrange a ride for someone else" or something, but it never seemed to work that well, so normally I just get the adress and put that as the pickup adress and your own adress as the destination, then just message the driver and say in Spanish "the passengers name is xxx and her number is xxx" so he can call her if he can't find her. I found that method worked well.

You can pay credit card or cash when they arrive. Didi drivers especially seemed to prefer cash.

Sometimes drivers cancell, which is a pain. One time I couldn't find an Uber for a gal so she just jumped in a cab and I met her on arrival and paid him cash.

Taxis / Ubers etc are dirt cheap in Bogota. A 45 minute ride might cost 30,000 COP, which is $8 USD. Its so cheap its not even worth thinking about. Its the price of a Bic Mac and fries where I live.

Yelow cabs are also a good option if you are on the streets. Just hail one and go. They seem like swarms of yellow locusts, they are everywhere in Bogota.

One girl arrived on the back of a motorcycle. Cheaper than a cab I guess.

The only problem I had was with Didi. A girl from down south got a Didi to meet me. The damn car broke down in the middle of a slum half way to my place. She was panicking and didn't have the money to get home and didn't have much data left on her phone. I could have been a dick and said is your problem, but I thought that would have been mean. So I said, ok send me your location and I will come and get you. Just as we were coordinating things the driver managed to start the car, and she made it to my place. Haha.

While I'm in the mood let me just relay a little story from Bogota on New Years Eve, 2021.

I was in Bogota over the holidays, and I was having too much fun in Santa Fe, on Seeking and elsewhere.

Everything was running like clockwork. Ok, I did get robbed by a streetwalker in SF who stuck her sticky fingers into my pants pocket, but that was my own stupid fault for being careless.

So it was all fun and games, and then along came new years eve.

A girl from out of town was with me, and as it got to late afternoon the subject of what to do on new years eve came up.

I wasnt sure, so we asked the security guard at the lobby of the building. He assured us that there would be a huge party in Plaza Bolivar with fireworks and the whole nine yards. Well, that place was about 20 minute walk from my apartment so we thought tht being new years eve it would be hard to get a taxi, so we planned to walk down there.

So at about 11 pm we set off walking to the Plaza on Carrera 7 which is a pedestrianised street which is normally bustling but was now pretty quiet and all the stores were shuttered. In fact there were few people around but we guessed they would all be down near the Plaza. So we kept on walking.

After about ten or fifteen minutes as we got nearer to the Plaza the people got less and less. There were one or two cops and a few homeless and other low lifes hanging around in doorways. It was weird because we thought this is where crowds of people would streaming to the plaza. Anyway, we were committed now so we kept walking, but a bit faster now, and a bit more nervously.

Then we got to the Plaza. It is huge place, about the size of red Square in Moscow. And it was absolutely fucking deserted. There were two people in that square, and they were me and my gal.

Fuck, it must have been cancelled. For Covid, or lack of money, or who knows why. So now we were at least 20 minutes walk away from my apartment in downtown Bogota at midnight with nobody around.

But it turned out, there were people around. In fact there were several people, hanging around in shadows, in doorways, and they were looking right at us. One blond haired gringo and his gal in a place they had no business being. So we turned round and started walking back. Then my gal said two words to me:

"I'm scared".

So I said, no its fine, lets just walk back. But guess what I was thinking:

You arent the only one.

But of course a man with balls wouldn't show he was scared with his gal next to him. Right?

And the next thing I thought was:

This is going to be a fucking long walk.

I also thought I must the the dumbest fucker in Bogota.

Anyway, I rationalised, the worst that could happen is that we get robbed at knifepoint. Well maybe that's not the worst, but still.

So we kept walking, faster and faster. And those eyes kept looking.

Then she says:

" Lets get an Uber".

Get an Uber. At midnight on new years eve. In a deserted downtown. So we would probably have to wait forever for the Uber to show up. Which didn't seem like a great idea.

So we just kept walking straight down the middle of that deserted shithole street that is Carrera 7. And just then a rat scuttled across the street in front of us. And it seems he stopped for a moment as if to say what the FUCK are you doing here?

Just then we passed another couple who were standing nervously on a street corner. So maybe we werent the only people who grossly miscalculated. So we just kept walking.

Then just at that moment a cab drove by on a cross street. And we started running and waving and shouting at him like someone shipwrecked on desert island when a plane flys over. And guess what. He just kept going. Fuck. And just at that moment my gal looked like she was going to cry.

And then the Christmas miracle happened. The cab stopped a block away. And guess what. He started reversing. And he kept reversing, until he stopped right next to where we were standing. And we got in. And it just proves that praying doesn't work, because I haven't been to church for years.

Anyway, he started driving away immediately because it seemed even he didn't want to be in that fucking place. Then we gave him the adress of my place, but he seemed a little confused. It turned out the couple who were standing on the street corner had ordered this cab and he was supposed to pick them up. So we had basically stolen their cab. Not knowingly but stolen it nonetheless. But when the driver realised he said fuck it lets go. So we did.

So as we drove away I realised that in a few minutes I would be back home, safe, in my apartment with 24/7 security and Netflix. And with my gal in bed beside me.

And just when I thought we had dodged a bullet, my gal said to the driver:

"Do know any places we can go to celebrate?

And the driver said:

"Yeah, I know a place, its in the barrio".

So just at the moment when I thought we were going home safe this gal asks the driver to take us to the middle of the exact place where I had been told to NEVER set foot.

And is why, my friends, if women did not have a pussy, we would build a fortress with 50 foot walls and banish them to the outside to be eaten by wolves.

So I looked at her with a look that said, are you out of your fucking mind?

So we drove a while to some place in the middle of fucking nowhere. And it looked like the perfect place for the buddies of this cab driver to jump out and do whatever the fuck they do to dumb gringos who stumble into the wrong neighbourhood.

And it ended up that there was no fucking party, or gang of hoodlums. It was just as simple as the cab driver inflating his fare by driving round neighbourhoods letting his meter fare accumulate at the request of the dumb b**** sitting next to me.

So I said lets just go back to my place. Now.

And we did.

So we ended up in my apartment, just after midnight, without even a scratch. So maybe this cat only has 8 lives left, but hes still purring. The good news is, from my 22nd floor window I was able to look across at the barrio and see all the fireworks shooting into the sky. You could even hear the occasional rat-tat tat of automatic weapon fire mixed in with the boom-boom of the rockets. And for some reason my bed that night night felt so much more comfy than usual.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2647737]Just tell the girl you want more time, give her more money and hotel money for extended time. She would call out to someone to come and take the money.

I find it much sexier when I am with the girl on a nice, clean bed. I took this girl tel, had her walk to my hotel for an hour for 100 M.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

I tried to send you a PM, but your mailbox is full.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647858]I wasnt sure, so we asked the security guard at the lobby of the building. He assured us that there would be a huge party in Plaza Bolivar with fireworks and the whole nine yards.[/QUOTE]That is hilarious. Fireworks? New Years Eve is the quietest night of the year in Bogota. People are home with their families. Years ago you could find a club or 2 open in Zona Rosa to have a good time with friends, but those spots were torn down and stores like Nike built in their places. One night like 12 years ago I saw a lady walking really fast around the block rolling a suitcase behind her. She said it meant traveling into the new year. Maybe it is some superstitious thing to do that will get you to travel more in the upcoming year. But no, there is no grand anything there on New Years Eve. The place is as quiet as a mouse.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647591]This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much.[/QUOTE]I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2647950]I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. I will pay the $109 and start hitting them up maybe 3 days before I go to Colombia next month.

I did set my VPN to Brazil when I made the account and pulled up the cost. That had no bearing on how much it was.[/QUOTE]I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2647950]
I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money! In the title and description I put something in Spanish about meeting up. [/QUOTE]I did something similar too and put up a profile picture. I am no Don Juan and out of shape, yet I am already hit by many good looking girls in their early 20's that have viewed and favorited me. Several of them even sent me chats and request to view my private photos. I did apply a promotional boost that SA gave me upon completion of the profile.

Anyway, it will be quite a while before I can make another trip there, so I would not pay for their premium service until a week or so before until I can make the trip again. In any case, I would not be able to respond to any of the girls at this time.

Also another unscientific analysis, I noticed that Colombian girls seem to be very active and has the most number of Sugar Babies listed. Just for fun, I entered the many cities in the different countries that I would usually visit, and here is my observation and value based on the number of good looking active and new listings in the search.

Colombia / Bogota: Good.

Colombia / Cartagena: Average.

Germany / Dusseldorf: Good (though they are more dispersed in different neighboring cities).

Germany / Frankfurt: Below average.

Netherland / Amsterdam: Good.

Indonesia / Jakarta: Poor.

Indonesia / Bali: Poor.

Thailand / Bangkok: Poor.

Philippines / Manila: Good.

Philippines / Angeles City: Good (Include spillover from Manila).

Singapore: Poor.

This makes interesting analytics in terms of the potential usage and popularity of the app in different countries.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2647950]I have heard enough. You and Elvis have twisted my arm enough that I decided to make another profile on Seeking. I never paid for the site before but for some unknown reason got kicked off. Even when I tried signing up again with my normal email address it said email does not exist. So I used another address.

I only put 1 picture up and that was literally of the back of my head and 15 chicks have already shown interest. They want that money!.[/QUOTE]LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2648423]LOL. It is not just me that got a GF off of seeking. I met two before mine that I would have characterize as GF like. Kazeu met his GF off of seeking when he was in Bogota, and DonCarlos was so bowled over by a hot lawyer that he almost got married before a fellow ISGer pulled him away.

Pull them off of seeking and onto whatsapp as soon as you can and when making a search, I would filter so the girls who have been on the site the shortest come up first. The ho types tend to have been the ones on the longest and those who speak English.[/QUOTE]I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.

Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

Great report Pussycat.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647591]This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after.

A week or two before a trip I set my location to where I'm going, e. G. Bogota. Then search for whatever you want, e. G. Bogota, 50 mile radius, age 18-25, etc. Then search and just start "liking" gals you like (click the heart icon). You can also message them directly.

I usually go for average girls, girl next door types; less hassle and more willing to please than Instagram model type bitches. Remember, even the average girl in Bogota is hot compared to most western bitches.

If it is more than a few weeks away I wouldn't bother as they will lose interest. One week before is ideal.

Response rate for me was about 30% for the inital chat. Maybe 1 in ten you will actually meet.

Even though I barely speak Spanish I do all messaging in Spanish using google translate and copy and paste. You can also translate the girls mesages on your phone by touching the girls message and holding, it then lets you "select all" then "translate" to English right on the screen.

Once they reply then send a few mesages in chat such as "Hola". "Soy Pussycat", "Como Estas". (Hi, I'm pussycat, how are you).

Then just move it to WhatsApp (Which they all have) by saying "Tienes WhatsApp?

If they reply with their number just add a contact on WhatApp then start chatting there.

I usually come straight out on WhatsApp and say in Spanish " I would like to meet you for a date of two hours; if everthing is good we will make love, and I will pay you 200 mil plus Ubers". Nine times out of then they will either say "ok", or will say "make it 250 mil" etc.

As for the James Bond shit claimed by some, having "game", banging chicks for free yada yada yada. Sure, do that if you want but when time is of the essence on a short vacation just slap the money on the table and get laid. By the time you have banged one chick "for free" after having wined and dined her at expensive restaurants and hotels I will have paid for and banged five gals from the barrios. When I was 25 I was banging models for free. At 55, I just pay.

You can order an Uber / Didi to pick them up or you can reimburse them when they arrive.

I shift it to WhatApp because SA claims to ban users who "solicit pro**itution" which is of course bullshit because that's what SA is a platform for, but whatever, I wouldn't discuss trading money for sex directly on the app. Plus, gals always check messages on WhatsApp all the time whereas they might only go on SA every few days.

Another good reason to move it to WhatsApp is because if you get in a fight with a girl on the app they can report you and get you banned. If you are outside the app there is nothing they can do.

Generally any girls with English in her profile or claiming to speak English will charge more. And any girl quoting a price in dollars is trying to charge more.

Assuming you are in Bogota I wouldnt bother trying to meet anyone who isn't in Bogota. I sent $30 to one gal for a bus to Bogota and then she instantly starting begging for money so I didn't end up meeting her.

I would tell them they need an ID to meet you ("Cedula") to make sure they are 18 and that they are legit. For two reasons: pro**itution is illegal under 18 in Colombia and they are less likely to scam / rob you if you see there ID. You can even ask hem to send a picture of it if you want.

Hide / lock up all your shit when they come to you room. Don't take drugs / drink alcohol with them as they could drug and rob you. It never happended to me, but it has happened.

Almost all gals I contacted were willing to trade sex for money. This is what I got quoted or what I actually paid in Bogota (4,000 COP / USD):

Instagram model types: $150+/2 hrs (600,000 COP+).

Gals speaking English well: 400,000 COP /2 hrs.

Average girl: 200-250 k COP + Ubers (20-40 k COP).

Low end: 150 k COP /2-3 hrs.

I suggest an opening gambit of 200 k ("200 mil") plus Ubers for 2 hrs.

Typical session for me was BBBJ, CFS. Other stuff by negotiation.

A few actual gals I met on SA in Bogota:

A medical student.

An English teacher.

Several gals from the barrio (slums) in the south.

A gal claiming she had an online store.

A Venezulean claiming she was divorced from a Chinese guy and was visiting her sister in Bog.

A gal who delivered fire extinguishers.

Naysayers wil trash SA as a overpriced platform and maybe it is, but I think it has some merits. And I know, you can get a streetwalker for 30 K in SF but remember, that's a 15 minute quickie in a shitty short time room in a disgusting RLD, versus 2 hrs of GFE like experience in you own room. You can't equate the two.

No doubt many of the gals on SA could be found on other platforms / met in other ways, possibly for less money, and if you have the time and contacts to find them then go ahead. At the end of the day, it is just one of the options. If I lived in Bog I most likely would not use it. But for the average two week millionaire SA is not too bad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2648883]Funny, SA is a diamond for me. This is the same I do while in Bogota for 2 weeks.

The only difference is I skip the dinner part and just ask them to come over. Usually a 80% success rate.

Great report Pussycat.[/QUOTE]Dangerous, asking them to come over. You can get alot of fatties with thin photos, smellies, and others you would disqualify if you first met them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2644887]Of course it is all about the money if you are making that way. You sit there and talk down on someone telling them how poor they are and that you will give them money. That sounds like some uppity superiority stuff to me. Being an alpha male is not telling someone you have arrived to pay all of their bills and fix all of their problems. Being an alpha male is teaching them ways not to get into problems and showing them ways of solving problems themselves.

I had a friend in Brazil that went to an interview to get a USA visa. She told the officer how she was going to be staying with this guy and he would take care of everything. She was then asked what if something happens to that person? Visa DENIED! So if something happens to the alpha male that you describe they are right back to square one.

I approach people in a normal conversation. I would never tell someone I am here to pay their bills and fix their problems. Maybe that is why I do not get chicks where it is all about the money. If I am talking about money to a chick then you can believe 100% that she is a hooker.

Total opposite from me. I tell them I am going to give them a baby knowing full well that I can't have kids.[/QUOTE]I enjoy reading your conversations with the girls LOL. Seems like you understand what makes Latinas function well. I agree with being sympathetic to their cause, and helping them build their dreams, to help build rapport. You treat them like girlfriends, and they treat you like a boyfriend, the sex is just part of the relationship. Funny thing though, this girl is saying that she'll be there for you, as long as you say the truth, so don't let her find ISG LOL.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2648486]I read your posts and a lot of it makes sense, but how do you how do you determine, who is a working girl and who is not? If this is the quality of sex, then a prostitute can do it much better than an ordinary woman.[/QUOTE]Igor I do not recall anyone on this forum using seeking before I did in mid 2019. I would send a woman a message. We would go on WhatsApp and arrange a meeting. Early on, I cannot remember mentioning price with anyone. We would meet and some of the time just go right to bed. Other times, the women would meet and want a price. Sometimes I would tell them no. If the price was reasonable, and I was attracted to them then I would fuck them but in my mind they were a WG. The best sex seemed to always be with the women who never mentioned a price though.

I have been doing the sugar daddy thing for over 10 years now. The goal is to make women take some form of payment for sex but not feel they are hos. You want them to feel as if you are giving a gift versus paying a wage.

As far as how to tell they are hos, they have been on the website for a long time, ask for money up front, ask that you get them an uber or taxi, show their cedula without being asked when at the hotel, bring their own condoms, live in the worst parts of town, and you can say they go about having sex in a ritual or job like way with a limited amount of passion and run for the door when done.

On average, the working women perform better than seeking women but the top women from seeking beat the top working women because of the passion they bring. And the top seeking women have unsurpassed beauty. I have met three beauty queens off the site, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.

And if you want a gal like I have, you have to let go of these bullshit preconceived notions like the women want the young Colombian studs. Some do, but there are others on seeking who do not. Hell, they will say they want guys age 30 to 60 in their profile. I am late 50's, overweight, and have a young 30 something woman my friends have called a 10. She has modeled for decades and insists on being fucked 3 X a day, and when I lasted visited her, ran to me in the airport with a balloon and cake in hand. And she is the third Colombian GF I have met from the site and my 4th from South America. I have never met and found a GF or what I consider a sugar baby off of seeking that mentioned a price before we met.

I am only seeing my current gal now, but I have had sugar babies from the USA, Mexico and Colombia. In fact over the holidays four of them reached out to me and asked how things were going with me and my woman, and I know why. They wanted me taking them out again. When I said things were fine, they lied and said they were happy for me. I know they had a ball when we were together and miss the life I showed them.

That said, it is not easy. You will get stood up. You will have your time wasted, let down a rabbit hole. You may get hurt and financially taken advantage of when a ho pretends to be a sugar baby but all she cares about is money. They will fool you with their addictions and mental illness. Many of the hottest women have boyfriends and will lie about being single. My current gal hid that she had a daughter from me. This all women are hos crap is to prevent guys from being hurt but it is completely illogical. There are women out there, a distinct minority for sure, who can be trusted, and those are the ones I want to invest my time and money on. You just have to kiss a lot of frogs before you meet your princess.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2647957]I started a new Seeking account and have been focusing here in the States. In less than a week, I already had my first meet and greet set up! Wrote about it in the Seeking Arrangements thread. I can only imagine what it would be like in Colombia or Brazil or some place like that. Lots of scammers and stuff, but plenty of "legit" too. I have women from all over Latin America and the rest of the world contacting me. I hide anybody not in my area. Can't deal with all of that![/QUOTE]Why would anyone want every ho in Latin America be able to contact / bother him A SD flies above the crowd and take what he wants. LOL I spend way too many hours a day talking with hot, available girls, no time for the barrio chicks. Unless I am in Bogota. LOL YMMV but at lease change the size of the net your using.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2647591]This is how I use SA in Bog:

I have premium membership. At $100 per month its overpriced, but as I am working in the US it doesn't matter that much. You could try free membership first and see how it goes. I don't know what the differences are.

I set up my own profile with a few pics. I put a very brief intro in Spanish. I say my income etc are modest; if you claim to be a high roller you will just attract expensive girls. Not necesarily better, just more expensive.

You can put the letters "SD' if you want. It stands for "Sugar daddy", and its code for p4 p. Even in Spanish, they know what it means. The girls sometimes put "SB" (sugar baby) or just "Sugar" in their profile also. Sugar is just a euphemism for money.

You can lie about your age (e. G. Make it younger) as there is no age verification. You should do this when you set up your profile as you can't do it after..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. Does anyone know other platforms / workflow?