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[QUOTE=Johnnyboy84; 1542564]Maybe FruitNinja visited during a time when the limited amount of women available weren't free to foreigners. Keep in mind that not every girl is free to do so. I do know of some people who managed to use Happy Berry just fine with no Japanese language abilities at all. If in the event Happy Berry tells me their services for Japanese nationals only, I will show them my membership card.

It's not just business policy but the choice of the girl to not do business with foreigners. Money may not always talk but people need to understand Japan is a free market and regardless, businesses and their employees have a choice in who they conduct business with.

But yes, communication is a majority of the reason and also understanding the culture. Another reason is that foreigners may think they may get FS when in fact it is illegal.[/QUOTE]That's a logical explanation that I had not considered. Good point. In the end, it is probably best for everyone that Mr. Fruit Ninja did not get accepted. He likely would have screwed it up for the rest of us.

Ultimately, you need Japanese street smarts to get in a good number of businesses and thankfully I got that.

If a guy starts trouble, the police do get involved and the person gets blacklisted and pays a heavy fine. The shop takes a picture of you and you have to write an apology essay they keep on record as well as other personal information. I saw this in a documentary and never had to experience it myself. These practices is also why some businesses refrain from serving foreigners.

As for his experience at Happy Berry, it must have been bad timing. Like it has been noted, if you look at the profiles in the homepage, it indicates with a globe mark who is foreigner friendly and he must have been there on a time when there were no girls present. But like I said, private businesses and ultimately their employees have the right to refuse service for whatever reason. And soaplands also have the right to "tax" us. It's their store.

Of course communication and lack of understanding the laws are one thing. And diseases is also a factor though it could happen to anyone.

[QUOTE=Johnnyboy84;1542564]I do know of some people who managed to use Happy Berry just fine with no Japanese language abilities at all.[/QUOTE]That's interesting.

On my first visit I was grilled quite extensively on my knowledge of the industry, time in Japan and asked to read aloud the card shown to me. On some subsequent visits I've been given the batsu sign before pulling out my members card then I've been treated quite warmly.

[QUOTE=Shibuya; 1542501]Name was Misaki. However when I went back tonight the lift no longer stopped at the third floor. Was around 7. 30pm so should have been open, no phone number so couldn't call.

I'd like to hear about better options around Kanda if you have a few?[/QUOTE]Thanks. Regarding the closed floor, that happens sometimes when there has been a recent police raid or there is the expectation of one. The cops make it an annual habit to hit sketchy massage places in the Spring and that is happening now. Crescent 2F also seems to not be doing business: home page is not working although it was a couple days ago, and there was no answer when I tried calling.

[url]http://www.kanda-fei.com/[/url]

As for recommendations in Kanda, there is no easy answer. Some swear by Mugen, and while the girls there are above average attractive their "kanyoudo" ("lenience level") tends to be low. You might give them a try if that sounds like your scene.

By the way the Vivian phone number is on their home page.

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[QUOTE=Dreams; 1542082]Indeed.

The good news is that our "friend" has now left, so this thread can now reverse to what it has always been, I. E a nice place to share info.[/QUOTE]I'm gone but there in spirit. In a much more friendly mongering destination. Thanks for all the help.

I agree regarding language and culture. From my perspective, if you've taken the trouble to learn the language you most likely know the cultural nuances and will not have any "surprises" because you already know the rules. Some of the rules are very different, especially in the legal health places where FS is just not tolerated. Those legal licenses are very precious and they don't want to lose them. Even the protocol in soaps, where FS is part of the deal, the protocols are sometimes difficult to communicate. A lot of tencho just figure it is not worth the trouble, because they have had bad experiences.

[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico; 1541849]Mr. Fruit, one occasionally hears "Nihongo dake" but "Nihonjin dake", while it does occur, is a much rarer phenomenon and generally disappears after a minor display of language skills and civilized demeanor.

I think that most longtime Tokyo mongerers realize there are 3 types of players.

1. Fluent / High Level Japanese Speakers: There are very few establishments that don't want your business and for you, Tokyo is truly paradise on earth. It's not cheap but neither is filet mignon.

2. Limited (or No) Japanese / Positive Attitude: Your choices are limited. Essentially to pink salons, Chinese shops and the few Japanese places (reviewed extensively on these pages) that speak enough English to get the deal done. Not so bad, really.

3. No Japanese / Lousy Attitude / Entitlement Mentality: Everything here is too expensive, everyone is a racist and your failure to launch is everyone's problem but your own.

For the type 3s, I'm sure things are way better where you come from and you can't wait to get back. Please don't let me keep you.[/QUOTE]

In town for just 2 days. I had a year of Japanese in high school so have the language skills of a local 2 yr old. I love the culture but after reading thru the most recent exchanges this sounds like the difficulty level far exceeds my abilities.

I am looking for a good massage from a cute Japanese girl with a happy ending. Outcall to my hotel would be perfect.

Please PM if you can help.

Staying at the Hilton Tokyo.

Cheers!

If I may share my experience in relation to us, foreign lot, being provided with service; I have never been turned away from any places, I have visited. I know where my limitations are, so I stick to what I know or I read this forum over and over before trying a new place. My Japanese level is very low but I get around and get things done. I consider the experience to be educational. Go somewhere, learn a bit, graduate and then try somewhere else. The funny thing is that I have learnt more Japanese by going to some service places than I have learnt during my office hours! However, I know that the young 22 years old Japanese superbabe is still out of my league. I accept that.

Enough said about that. Now a little report about some new-ish ladies at New-york New-york. I had a "japanese lesson with benefit" with Sayaka a few weeks ago. She is very friendly and enthusiastic. The usual service was provided. Also, she seemed to enjoy me playing with her. I received a lengthy praise at the end of it all (was it customer service? Who cares? It put a smile on my face). Several weeks before enjoying some time with Sayaka, I was given Rumi. I was hoping to get her for a while. She looks playfully naughty on her profile. I can only say that the session was ok. She kept on going away from the playground at crucial moments. However, she was unbelievably wet down under.

Always be nice to the ladies and happy hunting.

I dropped by Raku yesterday in the early evening and it was pretty much as has been described here. Rang the buzzer on the 2nd floor and the tencho quickly ushered me in. I mentioned that I speak a little Japanese and this seemed to reassure him. The waiting room has a placard with their current promotional pricing. I chose the 12K for 65 minutes. After waiting 5 minutes or so I was lead to the room. No line up or selection.

The girl, well lady really, was mid-40's in my estimation. Almost as old as my wife! Fortunately, this lady was much more service-oriented. Started with massage and the shower which included a good scrub down. Back to the room for pretty mechanical CBJ and CFS. Back to the shower and then more massage until time was up.

Her attitude was good as was the tencho's. And you can't beat the price. Having tried it, though, I'd prefer to spend more to get a girl elsewhere.

A couple of JP reviews got me curious about this place, as the reviews focused on how most of the girls seem to have large racks.

[url]http://www.k-koakuma.net/[/url]

60 mins for the discount price of 12000 yen + 2500 for the rental room.

(Website says it should be 11000 yen, but it's actually 12000 on a number of directory sites, so I guess their HP is out of date).

Called and made my appointment, the tencho told me to check into a rental room in 15 mins and call them back.

I called and the girl, Maria, turned up at the door within a minute.

Maria: [url]http://www.k-koakuma.net/profile.php?id=maria[/url]

Maria looks exactly as the photographs on the website show her. She's not close to 22. I would guess late 30s or maybe even 40s, but her skin is in good condition, and she does indeed have a great rack. Totally artificial however, so if you're turned off by that, avoid!

The session starts off with her stripping down and taking a shower together with you. Maria is a thorough washer, and gives the impression she's smart about hygiene. The shower took about 10 minutes, including her washing herself while I was getting dried. After the shower, she gave me an oil massage. This was pretty reasonable. Not the best massage I've had, but far from the worst. The massage lasted for 20 minutes or so. Then the "kaishun" play kicked in. She started at first with the feather-light touching all over which I love, though some people might find ticklish. Then she started rubbing her tits all over my back and backside. She got me on all fours, and continued to rub her tits in my nether regions, then started teasing with her hands again. After this had gone on for about 10 minutes, she told me to flip over and then came up to kiss me. Some good french kissing, then she started kissing down my body, focusing on my nipples for a bit, then moving further down for a BBBJ. She gives a good BJ, and mixed it up with some good old-fashioned tit-fucking. This went on for about 10 minutes, then she started to go full throttle with an HJ until I finished. After that, we got in the shower again together and parted ways.

Maria's Japanese was ok. She says she's been in the country for three years, and we could converse about really basic things, but she didn't talk at all during the massage. Her fake tits and over made-up face were a little distracting, but the service was pretty good. 7/10. I'd like to try the shop again and maybe see one of the other girls, though I assume they are all using implants.

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1544002]. Now a little report about some new-ish ladies at New-york New-york. I had a "japanese lesson with benefit" with Sayaka a few weeks ago. She is very friendly and enthusiastic. The usual service was provided. Also, she seemed to enjoy me playing with her. I received a lengthy praise at the end of it all (was it customer service? Who cares? It put a smile on my face). Several weeks before enjoying some time with Sayaka, I was given Rumi. I was hoping to get her for a while. She looks playfully naughty on her profile. I can only say that the session was ok. She kept on going away from the playground at crucial moments. However, she was unbelievably wet down under.

Always be nice to the ladies and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Can't agree more. Since I started learning basic Japanese (currently at JSPT level 4-5) , my mongering life when in Japan has tremendously changed. Not only this has helped in accessing more places, but also has considerably increased the enjoyment of the encounters. Japanese girls in this business are so relieved when they realise that the gaijin they are going with can speak and understand them.

And yes, rather than paying high prices to get a consversation session in a language school, I rather pay a little more to get the same conversation session, completed by the sex services.

A specific question concerning NYNY: Have you asked for a specific girl when you go there? I got the imopression that it would not be possible. So far, I asked, in my broken Japanese, if I can have a "young and busty" girl. I usually get a nod, and is directed towards the waiting room. By asking this, I ususally avoid the "old" and flat chested women.

At the end, for 9600 Y, an hour of conversation with a Japanese woman, supplemented by BBJ, massage, DATY and Sumata is not a bad deal.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1544830]Can't agree more. Since I started learning basic Japanese (currently at JSPT level 4-5) , my mongering life when in Japan has tremendously changed. Not only this has helped in accessing more places, but also has considerably increased the enjoyment of the encounters. Japanese girls in this business are so relieved when they realise that the gaijin they are going with can speak and understand them.

And yes, rather than paying high prices to get a consversation session in a language school, I rather pay a little more to get the same conversation session, completed by the sex services.

A specific question concerning NYNY: Have you asked for a specific girl when you go there? I got the imopression that it would not be possible. So far, I asked, in my broken Japanese, if I can have a "young and busty" girl. I usually get a nod, and is directed towards the waiting room. By asking this, I ususally avoid the "old" and flat chested women.

At the end, for 9600 Y, an hour of conversation with a Japanese woman, supplemented by BBJ, massage, DATY and Sumata is not a bad deal.[/QUOTE]Yes you can ask for a specific lady. When I do, I usually name the lady. But most of the time I go along with the luck of the draw. Interestingly, the staff has started to ask me if I want to name one. They must recognize me now.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1544830]Can't agree more. Since I started learning basic Japanese (currently at JSPT level 4-5) , my mongering life when in Japan has tremendously changed. Not only this has helped in accessing more places, but also has considerably increased the enjoyment of the encounters. Japanese girls in this business are so relieved when they realise that the gaijin they are going with can speak and understand them.

And yes, rather than paying high prices to get a consversation session in a language school, I rather pay a little more to get the same conversation session, completed by the sex services.

A specific question concerning NYNY: Have you asked for a specific girl when you go there? I got the imopression that it would not be possible. So far, I asked, in my broken Japanese, if I can have a "young and busty" girl. I usually get a nod, and is directed towards the waiting room. By asking this, I ususally avoid the "old" and flat chested women.

At the end, for 9600 Y, an hour of conversation with a Japanese woman, supplemented by BBJ, massage, DATY and Sumata is not a bad deal.[/QUOTE]I agree with Dreams.

As my Japanese proficiency increased, it gave me more access to so called Gaijin unfriendly premises.

Recently, I went with one escort for erotic massage with no FS (only HJ) with 16000 yen for 60 minutes.

I ask for small lady since I also quite a small guy. They sent me a perfect girl. My first flying with color results after several failures.

The girl was so relieved when realized I can speak Japanese a little. At least make the girl to be more comfortable.

She allowed me to touch her a little on private part.

The key is to be patient and control your aggression.

After 60 minutes unfortunately I still cannot ejaculate and she asked whether I want to continue or not.

I negotiate and agreed with additional 5000 for another 30 minutes.

I popped up and we went bathing together, and now she even allowed me not only touch but do anything I wish for.

She said to me it is a secret and don't tell the tenchou.

I agreed, and we spent another one and half hour, back to the bed and to cut it short, she is yours.

In the end, I asked her we spend nearly 2.5 hours and I was worried because I don't have any penny anymore to pay because I already overlimit of the time.

She replied, it is fine and we just have to keep things quiet.

Another surprising things is I don't have to pay additional fees for the love hotel (I booked 2500 yen for one hour).

Before dismissed, I said to her I wish to be your regular but I don't have big salary and therefore could not afford it frequently.

She replied `I understand` and please mentioned my name when makes reservation so she could know it was me and willing to do similar SOP again.

Maybe she also have financial trouble, I am not sure. Things don't go smooth nowadays. But, she is a nice girl, very nice in my opinion.

Fruitful day for me in the beginning of Spring.

Do they have FS option?"Maria's Japanese was ok. She says she's been in the country for three years," which country was she from? Not Japanese.

[QUOTE=Hot Bot; 1544403]A couple of JP reviews got me curious about this place, as the reviews focused on how most of the girls seem to have large racks.

[url]http://www.k-koakuma.net/[/url]

60 mins for the discount price of 12000 yen + 2500 for the rental room.

(Website says it should be 11000 yen, but it's actually 12000 on a number of directory sites, so I guess their HP is out of date).

Called and made my appointment, the tencho told me to check into a rental room in 15 mins and call them back.

I called and the girl, Maria, turned up at the door within a minute.

Maria:

[url]http://www.k-koakuma.net/profile.php?id=maria[/url]

Maria looks exactly as the photographs on the website show her. She's not close to 22. I would guess late 30s or maybe even 40s, but her skin is in good condition, and she does indeed have a great rack. Totally artificial however, so if you're turned off by that, avoid!..[/QUOTE]

Hey folks,

I'm visiting Tokyo next week from Osaka. I have passable Japanese. What's the best place for a simple HJ and BJ in Tokyo? In Osaka I can usually get a HJ with body massage for around 4000 yen for 30/40 mins. Is it the same over in Tokyo?

Cheers