Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=EvanAlaska;1687006]During my first trip last June, I have been bareback when I couldn't cum for a second or a third shot. I did this three times, once in Mango, twice in Snow White 2. The girls were OK because they wanted me to finish. Going bareback turned me up and after 10-20 sec I managed to cum.

I got an STD, it was like pissing boiling water for 10 days. I have been under two antibiotics for 3 weeks. Plus the exam at the hospital in Bkk extremely painful and expensive: 17 000 Bath. And no sex for two weeks.

I won't do it again. And thanks for sharing this experience with us Dog, I won't go to this place.[/QUOTE]A few questions come to mind:

What STD did you contract?

Did you just ignore it at first?

What hospital did you visit?

What does a 17,000 baht exam involve, and why was it so painful?

Did you hear people at the hospital say som nam na?

Did you tell the girl or the parlor about it?

For what it's worth, I figure on six months being a long enough incubation period for an STD to show symptoms &/ or turn up on a blood test. Should a bare back encounter occur, be it as a result of a broken condom or poor judgment, that means a blood test, half a year of safe sex or no sex, and another blood test.

First of all there is a safe sex thread for all of you who enjoy, worrying, and going on and on about this topic. Second of all if you are all so naive to think that the providers that you see in any of these shops practice safe sex 100% of the time then, I've got one bridge for sale that you might be interested in. I see most of the safe sex complaints on this forum coming from newbie posters or lurkers who make no contributions to the forum whatsoever and as for traveller 1234 sticking up for them when he knows better that there is a section in the forum designed for this is beyond me. This section is for reporting and that section is for talking about safe sex. I'm sick amd tired of hearing all the whining. There are many photos posted in the photo gallery with members bare backing and I don't see anyone flaming or commenting on them. So don't be so naive. However there were a couple of really intelligent posts derived from this discussion and they should be posted in the correct thread for all to see who enjoy reading about it. Everyone have a good day and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=OldPhart;1687076]A few questions come to mind:

What STD did you contract?

Did you just ignore it at first?

What hospital did you visit?

What does a 17,000 baht exam involve, and why was it so painful?

Did you hear people at the hospital say som nam na?

Did you tell the girl or the parlor about it?

For what it's worth, I figure on six months being a long enough incubation period for an STD to show symptoms &/ or turn up on a blood test. Should a bare back encounter occur, be it as a result of a broken condom or poor judgment, that means a blood test, half a year of safe sex or no sex, and another blood test.[/QUOTE]Having evaluated the research on this issue, I'm somewhat between the two extremes of those who pontificate re same, but with regard to your post, "C'Mon. " We need to be guided by reliable data rather than extreme and exaggerated ideology.

[QUOTE=OldPhart;1687076]A few questions come to mind:

What STD did you contract?

Did you just ignore it at first?

What hospital did you visit?

What does a 17,000 baht exam involve, and why was it so painful?

Did you hear people at the hospital say som nam na?

Did you tell the girl or the parlor about it?

For what it's worth, I figure on six months being a long enough incubation period for an STD to show symptoms &/ or turn up on a blood test. Should a bare back encounter occur, be it as a result of a broken condom or poor judgment, that means a blood test, half a year of safe sex or no sex, and another blood test.[/QUOTE]To Oldphart.

That is lesson learn doing Bareback with a WG in Asia is a dead wish, Thailand one of the highest AID and STD rate in Asia don't think he will do that again.

Fast eddie 48.

I understand why guys prefer BB. It feels better. Stopping to put on a condom in the heat of the moment is a drag. Frankly, if that is what you like, there are plenty of girls in the hard core oily MPs, and elsewhere who offer BBFS.

I can understand why guys get upset with the bare backers. It is a very a risky practice. Eventually the hammer is going to hit the loaded cylinder.

If someone is going to do it, it's not likely anything anyone says will persuade the guy not to. However, I think it would be more responsible not to mention the names of girls who offer BBFS in a report. As recently as a couple of years ago it seems guys kept that information private. For example awhile ago there was a well known lady who got a number of excellent reviews. I don't recall any of these reports mentioning that she was indifferent about practicing safe sex. It only came out after she disappeared along with a suggestion that her regulars may wish to get tested.

For what it's worth, on my last visit Ice and I were just hanging out in my room drinking and talking. Eventually our conversation wandered to a discussion about BBFS. She was adamant about always using condoms. I pushed her by insisting she must have BBFS with some of her regulars, which she denied. I have no idea how truthful she was, but she sure got emotional. At one point she remarked about being in the business for a long time and knowing too many ladies who had many STDs, eventually became HIV+ and died of AIDS. She summed it up by saying she had too many people to support and couldn't afford to get sick and die.

[QUOTE=OldPhart;1687076]A few questions come to mind:

What STD did you contract?

Did you just ignore it at first?

What hospital did you visit?

What does a 17,000 baht exam involve, and why was it so painful?

Did you hear people at the hospital say som nam na?

Did you tell the girl or the parlor about it?

For what it's worth, I figure on six months being a long enough incubation period for an STD to show symptoms &/ or turn up on a blood test. Should a bare back encounter occur, be it as a result of a broken condom or poor judgment, that means a blood test, half a year of safe sex or no sex, and another blood test.[/QUOTE]It was the Gonorrhea.

I felt some itching two days after and it was burning like hell when peeing the third day after sex.

I immediately went to the Bangkok Hospital.

17,000 Bath includes one medical consultation, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] tests, blood tests, samples taken from mouth and Urethra (the painful one), a second consultation 3 days later, medicines (2 antibiotics, ointment, vitamins). The Gonorrhea bacteria is getting resistant to ant-biotic so they gave me two to be sure to destroy it, a third consultation after 2 weeks.

I don't know what means "som nam na", never heard that.

I sent an Email to the shop, explained everything, got no answer.

Back in my country, where healthcare is free, I have been through the standard procedure for this kind of exposure and did the HIV, Herpes and Syphilis test after 6 weeks. So I know I am perfectly fine now. And of course I spent 6 weeks, wondering about HIV. I had one week left in Thai after the STD was cured but I didn't really enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=EvanAlaska;1687006], I won't go to this place.[/QUOTE]Evenalaska, I think your reaction to not visit this place seems little extreme. Just because you found out. What about other places and girls one meets. Is there any assurance that they all practise safe sex. I don't think so. What about the local thai bfs these girls have? Do they get tested regularly or practiise safe sex. I seriously doubt.

The only protection we have is that we mandatorily use condoms and take precaution.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1687054]I have two comments:

1. Your individual decision is not without wider effects. Saying "up to you and live with the consequences" is the same wrong and stupid attitude as those dangerous "anti-vaxers" in the USA and other places who for their individual self-centered and delusional reasons refuse to vaccinate their children and (we may assume) themselves and thereby put the whole community at risk.

As long as there are no vaccines available for most of the STDs (including HIV), the use of a condom fulfills the same role as a vaccine. A vaccine not only protects you from the disease, it also stops the disease from spreading. The former is for your own account, but the latter concerns us all. As no protection is always 100% effective, the "no rubber" gang actually increases the risk for us all.

2. Of course, there is no "rubber police" in the room to check upon the girl or you, but a professional shop should educate their workers about the dangers involved and keep hammering this nail over and over again. It has been proven that this will really change the girls' attitude over time. But even the most educated lady may succumb to the lure of a premium offered by some uncaring monger and that is why I find it the duty of us all to say again and again that such behaviour is despicable and should stop.[/QUOTE]I have posted my response in the Safe Sex thread as the discussion has moved there.

Bkkdog,

Most of us do understand that commercial sex is never 100% safe.

Most of us know that these girls sometimes do have bareback, even we mongers do have sometimes in the heat of moment even it is just a brief penetration.

But one thing that you don't seem to understand is that you are one us! We are not supposed to create unsafe conditions for ourselves and must adhere to a certain minimum restrictions. I don't think I would have been alive if I did not listen to my peers many decades ago.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1687135]First of all there is a safe sex thread for all of you who enjoy, worrying, and going on and on about this topic. Second of all if you are all so naive to think that the providers that you see in any of these shops practice safe sex 100% of the time then, I've got one bridge for sale that you might be interested in. I see most of the safe sex complaints on this forum coming from newbie posters or lurkers who make no contributions to the forum whatsoever and as for traveller 1234 sticking up for them when he knows better that there is a section in the forum designed for this is beyond me. This section is for reporting and that section is for talking about safe sex. I'm sick amd tired of hearing all the whining. There are many photos posted in the photo gallery with members bare backing and I don't see anyone flaming or commenting on them. So don't be so naive. However there were a couple of really intelligent posts derived from this discussion and they should be posted in the correct thread for all to see who enjoy reading about it. Everyone have a good day and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]

Simian posted -.

There are many reasons why a girl and you will not hit it off very well. There is always a bit of luck involved in getting the right girl who suits your mood at the time and your character. Having said that, many mongerers go to places like Tulip, Mango and other similar places with a specific strategy in mind. It might be to pick a girl who has worked well before. Of course you have to try a few before you get to that stage. Or a recommendation from another hobbist. This one does not always work because what the other guy enjoyed may be tedious for you.

Invariably, I go to massage places and try to discern from the lineup which one I want to be with based on their demeanour. I never pick a girl if she does not look at me. Not looking at me, especially looking off to one side, is a clear indicator that the girl is tired, had her pussy pounded too much that day or is not in a good mood and is only in the lineup because she had to obey the mamasan when there is an "all girls on deck" call.

Some girls will look at you and kinda smile but perhaps their heart is not into it. They may want the money, they may not be in a bad or tired mood and may not have had their pussy pounded all day but they may be more suitable for the punter who wants a slow shag and a nice massage as opposed to a PSE. Although Tulip, Mango and other places have the reputation of PSE, this is not always what gets provided.

Lastly, the punter's experience may sometimes depend on his own mood. What one day appears quirky or funny may another day be a complete turn-off or deal breaker, depending on hangovers, rip-offs in another place, being bothered by the cops on Sukhumvit road or being grouchy because you are tired..... snip.


Good information. I am the same way in regards to choosing a girl. If she doesn't look at me when being presented or when talking, she is not the one. Doesn't matter if it is in a bar, gogo, oily, or a club. If the girl is looking around and NOT looking me, she is gone. Funny how they have that strange look on their face when you walk away.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1687135] I see most of the safe sex complaints on this forum coming from newbie posters or lurkers who make no contributions to the forum whatsoever and as for traveller 1234 sticking up for them when he knows better that there is a section in the forum designed for this is beyond me. [/QUOTE]The first part of your statement is over-generalization.

The second part is true but you're one of many who has spent an inordinate time / posts here on that exact subject.

And PaulK is absolutely right -- if any of the providers practicing russian roulette, I'd certainly stay away from her. No matter how PSE she might be!

Peace and be safe!

I visited Snow White mostly based on the recommendations provided here. Two days ago I stopped by and asked for Benz but she was already with a client. After asking the LB receptionist if all girls were A+ and was assured they were, I stepped into the girls parlor room. Not to impressed with what was available, I selected Mia and she followed me outside only to hear her tell LB she cannot. Not sure if she was just not available or meant she was not A+ but exasperated I decided to try on another day.

Yesterday afternoon I went again. As I walked in, I saw Benz slip into the back room so clearly she either had a client coming or not available. This time I selected Nana, an older lady with an impressive rack and big hips. Pretty face too.

We went up to room but AR never offered though anal was on menu as she offered her backside to me. Her words. Also, no kissing whatsoever and I had to prompt second round which was a nice BBBJ. I rarely do anal but she was enthusiastic so enjoyed this rare event for me but really wanted the AR (1st time for me) but no indication that was on menu. Do I need to be specific with front desk about this as I though they were all on the program?

Overall I can't complain as cost was $2200 for about an 1 1/2 total time though I paid for two hours. Other poster was right: only get an hour or at most 1 1/2 as they usually end session in under toe hours anyway.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1686844] If I have to come right out and say it again the safe sex police on the forum might come out and arrest me.[/QUOTE]Okay So you found some stupid girls willing to risk it. Its far more risky for the girl than for the guy.

Girls that fuck BB consistently (with many customers) will catch STDs regularly and HIV probably eventually. Repetition defeats the odds eventually. Another problem is taking the pill is not foolproof. Some girls still got pregnant. A significant portion of Thai girls do not get abortions and actually have the babies (religious reasons generally). I known a few girls in this category. Even girls that only do it for special customers, still risk pregnancy. The girls who got pregnant, that I know were not fucking everyone bareback (and not me). At least one was taking the pill according to her.

Guys will catch Chlamydia and Goner. Very easily, get girls pregnant on occasions, and give girls diseases on occasions, including Herpes for sure. Many guys don't even know if they ever had it. I don't know for sure if ever had Herpes Simplex Type 1 (Cold sores) or type 2 (predominately genital). I never had symptoms that were obviously either of those. Stats show that most mongers will have caught one of these some time, even without symptoms. So I guess this disease is generally more feared than necessary.

I'm surprised that mongers are sleeping with prostitutes raw. I'm planning my first trip soon and plan to frequent some massage parlors. Can anyone tell me where the girls who are BB are located so I can avoid those places.

[QUOTE=SteelDh;1688346]I'm surprised that mongers are sleeping with prostitutes raw. I'm planning my first trip soon and plan to frequent some massage parlors. Can anyone tell me where the girls who are BB are located so I can avoid those places.[/QUOTE]Sure, there's a ton of them in the States. Why don't you just stay home?