Jakarta

Well, I was kind of sure that there exists only one Emporium in Jakarta that is famous and mostly has all positive reviews only, in this Forum.

But it seems there's more to it. Jakarta100 Bars website tells me there are 2 Emporium Spas in the city and Google Maps suggest they are located about 2. 5 Kms apart from each other.

Now, Which one of these two is the one that regulars here are all praises about?

Also, I have a query about the the the'Heaven Spa. Is there any difference in Quality of Girls between their Kelapa Gading and Grand Wijaya properties?

Looking for inputs from regular members here.

Thanks in advance.

Chuck.

The Emporium that many people have referred to here is on Japan Pecenongan near to Alila Hotel or Red Top Hotel.

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1962546] Well, I was kind of sure that there exists only one Emporium in Jakarta. Jakarta100 Bars website tells me there are 2 Emporium Spas in the city. Now, Which one of these two is the one that regulars here are all praises about [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1962338]I often visit Jakarta and have already been there five times. I always stay up North, mostly along or near Jalan Gajah Madah / Jalan Hayam Wuruk. Would you mind sharing the details of the brothels where one can get very good looking and young girls as you mentioned. Thank you.[/QUOTE]They are mentioned here all the time. Malioboro, Alexis, Classic, Travel, King Cross, etc. Of course there are many more, but those are some of the big ones.

Hello?

I would like to ask How much do you normally spend time at Malioboro, Classic, Travel, Alexis and King Cross?

I read a lot of reports and it seemed like you guys go there, sit then drink few beers then go up to do sessions and then call it a day because I did not read any reports about the dancers (what kind of dance they dance, live music bands, etc).

Or maybe it is not worth mention? Or even maybe they are not the places to sit, relax, watch the shows and listen to the musics? Due to mamasan's push or their shame looks at you?

Oh, I know all these places. I thought you were referring to 'real' brothels like you see in Amsterdam, Mumbai, Kolkata or Kalijodo.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1962841] They are mentioned here all the time. Malioboro, Alexis, Classic, Travel, King Cross, etc. Of course there are many more, but those are some of the big ones.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1962977]Oh, I know all these places. I thought you were referring to 'real' brothels like you see in Amsterdam, Mumbai, Kolkata or Kalijodo.[/QUOTE]Have you been to the Pen J area which is near the Jayakarta communter train station. Seven moderate size bars, more downmarket than not, no entry fee and about 20 to 50 girls each from 280 k (ok promo rate) to 380 k. IMHO lots of young women and you will run into a stunner once in awhile. I personnally have stepped in, take a quick look and then move on if someone doesn't strike my fancy.

I went to Tematik spa recently. The girl they gave me was friggin awesome! For some reason, that place never gets any mention here. I won't share her number yet because I want to have her available when I return. Gems can be found anywhere in town. I'd marry her if she would have me. haha You can google search spa tematik and they have a blog site that shows their therapists.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1962989]I personnally have stepped in, take a quick look and then move on if someone doesn't strike my fancy.[/QUOTE]No Japanese dance instructor dudes there that met your fancy? (just kidding).

Frankly speaking, it's the first time I hear of this place. There are so many places to explore in Jakarta. I may try it during my next trip.

Well, I asked about the brothels since Smoothy mentioned beautiful girls can be found there. Otherwise, since I usually stay near Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Hyam Wuruk, there are lots of places with decent looking girls around.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1962989] Have you been to the Pen J area which is near the Jayakarta communter train station. [/QUOTE]

Although I have heard of this place, I have never visited it. While I was staying at FM 7 Hotel near the airport couple of years ago, one taxi driver did propose to take me there but since the hotel already had a good selection of girls, I declined.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1963013] I went to Tematik spa recently. The girl they gave me was friggin awesome! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1963026]No Japanese dance instructor dudes there that met your fancy? (just kidding).[/QUOTE]I'll live, too old to let much of anything bother me now.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1963046]I usually stay near Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Hyam Wuruk, there are lots of places with decent looking girls around.[/QUOTE]Yes, there isn't any one special place that has the young good looking girls. But most of the brothels up north like Malioboro, Classic, etc have plenty of young good looking girls. From Gajah Mada plaza, you can easily walk to some very good places, so I am sure this is not news to you.

Is Jakarta's Christian Chinese Governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama good or bad for mongering? He still leads the polls for the next election. Would a Muslim be a better Governor? Though Basuki Tjahaja Purnama was formally named a suspect in a blasphemy investigation on Wednesday, after allegations that he insulted Islam sparked a violent mass protest by Muslim hardliners in the Indonesian capital, chances that he is found guilty are little. It's a compromise.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1963303]Is Jakarta's Christian Chinese Governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama good or bad for mongering? [/QUOTE]

Obviously bad, perhaps even disastrous. Mongering options have notably declined under his tenure (and before when he was Jokowi's deputy).

Demolishing Kalijodo (the larges low-end RLD in Jakarta) is one of his latest achievements. Not a raid with a few arrests, but bulldozing the entire neighborhood down to the ground. He's actively suppressing the sex industry.

With the religious hardliners, I get an impression that they would just make a lot of noise and fake outrage, perhaps do a few raids for show (with warning in advance), but still happily accept the brown envelopes to let things go on as before. No such luck with the enlightened progressive bunch like Jokowi and Ahok.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1963910]Obviously bad, perhaps even disastrous. Mongering options have notably declined under his tenure (and before when he was Jokowi's deputy).

Demolishing Kalijodo (the larges low-end RLD in Jakarta) is one of his latest achievements. Not a raid with a few arrests, but bulldozing the entire neighborhood down to the ground. He's actively suppressing the sex industry.

With the religious hardliners, I get an impression that they would just make a lot of noise and fake outrage, perhaps do a few raids for show (with warning in advance), but still happily accept the brown envelopes to let things go on as before. No such luck with the enlightened progressive bunch like Jokowi and Ahok.[/QUOTE]No question that Ahok is bad for the hobby, but he may be the best from among the candidates for governor, the others of whom I have been told (unverified) lean towards hardline Islam. I guess this depends on whether indeed the non-progressive crowd would continue to let things be so long as the brown envelopes keep getting filled. Given some of the unfortunate changes generally in the degree to which the hardliners are asserting themselves, whether or not brown envelopes will continue to be sufficient to keep these places open is probably subject to debate (and by saying this I am not taking a side in the debate, as I don't really know which way these things are going).

As to Kalijodo, there are a couple of mitigating factors in terms of extrapolating to the entire hobby. First, as noted it was a low-end RLD and it is therefore unclear whether similar efforts will be made with reference to higher-end places. Second, I spoke with an Indonesian friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about such things and his reaction was it was as much a matter of it being zoned as a green area and the effort to make it that, as it was an anti-prostitution move. Although this latter reason sounds like only part of the story, it would not be out of the ordinary for a progressive politician to start enforcing zoning laws that affect the environment. But yeah, I suppose there are many other zoning violations that are not being similarly enforced.