Santo Domingo

I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.

I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599826]I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.[/QUOTE]The people I know who are Dominicans that live in the DR like going to Santo Domingo because it has way more of everything because of it's size. But for me it is one big hassle the women cost 4 times as much as they do in Sosua and other parts of the DR and the 5-0 is every where.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599826]I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.[/QUOTE]Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599426]I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.[/QUOTE]I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1599896]Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.

The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".

I get back to my place at 11 and call another person I had called earlier. She is nice on the phone, says she is free but given the rush, she needs a cab. She is from Pantoja. Very far from zona colonial. I have not had any dick exercise since I landed and so in my stupidity, I say ok .400 pesos. She shows up at 1230 finally and I pay the cab. Then I realize, I made a mistake. She looks nice, 19, very nice pair of knockers but has a long face. I thank her for her coming at such a short notice. I wanted to go eat at a local place but she says she eats chicken everyday. Another warning. Landed at villar Hnos. Bad vibes there too. Moral of the story paid 700 pesos for the meal, rarely spoke during meal and then gave her money to get straight back to where she belonged. Bad judgment on my part. I do not like prima donnas.

The evening turned out to be much better. A woman I knew a year back, a 21 year old from Bonao, who lives in Higuey now, came to SD for the night. A beer in the room and the much anticipated exercise. Was hungry by 8 PM and went looking for a place recommended by BoricuaOL but it was closed. Wound up at the open air place at Villar – a great fish in garlic sauce plus rice. The woman asked for only a sancocho, speaking of attitudes. We walked back as she ate an icecream from Bon, and I sipping my coffee. Ah, the previous woman did not find the pork chops she had ordered to her liking so I asked her to pack it and take home – she dithered. I got it packed and after I walked back to parque independencia, gave it to a little boy panhandling.

Friday, the woman left for Bonao at 10 ish after one lst round. Enjoyed the 4 exercises. The great thing about this is, she is texting and I take my dick close to her mouth, she does not miss the hint. And drops the phone and gets busy.

I too packed and called car rental from Nelly to come and pick me up. Idiotic newbie, took for ever to rent a car and finally left SD at 2. Terrible weekend traffic at that hour and rain as I head towards Bonao. Get off highway at Piedra Blanca, on to Cotui and finally Pimentel – night stay there. The 20 year old, a 40 DD was waiting. Same story. Speak normally and every now and then nudge her head to the required destination and she keeps you warm.

Beautiful drive from Piedra blanca to Cotui – the mountainous part and later the green rice fields from Cotui. Sleeping at a cabana in Pimentel 850 pesos – Las terrenas next.

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1599898]I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.[/QUOTE]Asis rooms I think all have the same mini split units, if you get a large room or if you get a room at the upper level you will have problem cooling down your room. The room I got is a freezer, if I come back here I am going to request this room.

Yesterday night there were more girls in both malecon and Independencia. There were a couple of cuties in Sheraton parking, one asked for 2000 pesos short term.

Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599909]Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.[/QUOTE]Have not had such genuine experience so far. Went to a girl's house (dad / mom /12 year old sister / even abuelo) living together. In Montecristi, a couple of years back. Mom wanted to make dinner, ended up inviting all to a seaside restaurant. Yours sound more interesting.

SD is a monger killer as I found out on my first two trips. Luckily two vets who no longer post on this board (Jao and Bq) took me under their wing and showed me all the secrets of la capital. SD and Cuba are running neck to neck as my future retirement home.

Once SD is opened to you then you will understand what few who have the patience now know. SD is not a quick hit, most likely it will get you if you are rushed. It has every amenity that big American cities have.

With the outter towns to draw from, you have an endless supply of fine ladies to draw from. But you better have your game tight when hunting in SD otherwise you will be headed to the airport crying for Sosua.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599899]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE]Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering. Of the guys who would, you can best believe 99% of them speak Spanish. The 1% that does not speak Spanish has probably never been to Sosua before and is afraid to branch out. From my experience, if you are a guy who can speak Spanish then there is no need to monger. You can pick up regular chicks with ease, so it probably would not matter where you went. However, if you were into picking up regular chicks it would make more sense to do that in Santo Domingo because it is so large. Every other city is the DR is so small and the hangouts are so minimal, that if you wanted to have more than one regular chick then it is not a question of if you would get caught, but when. I am a history/culture kind of guy, but as many times that I have been to Santo Domingo I have never taken in one touristic site.

When the word vacation comes to mind what do you think of? I would say that most do not think of a big city environment with the sound of car horns from 7 am until the night time. Most probably think of a relaxed beach environment which Sosua offers. An environment where you don't need a car because everything is within walking distance. For those Santo Domingo guys who want a beach then Boca Chica and Juan Dolio are a close drive away, with Boca Chica having many cheaper P4P GFE options if need be.

As for me, my first two trips to DR were to Boca Chica without a car. On the first trip I did have a girl with a car who took me around Santo Domingo. For most of the chicks I would meet online they would always say Boca Chica was too far for them to go after being at work all day. After the first two trips I started to fly into Puerto Plata and frequent Sosua. I started renting cars there because the taxi wanted $20 from the airport and $15 to the airport for the 10 minute ride. Hell it was only about $23/day to rent a car and I could go where the hell I wanted. So that was a no brainer for me. My third time on the south coast and hanging in Boca Chica, I took 2 gua guas into Santo Domingo and then the Caribe Tours bus 5 hours to Sosua. I vowed to never do that again, and have been renting cars ever since.

Since it was still the same story from the online chicks that Boca Chica was too far, I finally bit the bullet and decided to get to know Santo Domingo. A guy from the board named Jaosousa was kind enough to meet up with me and drive me around and show me the ropes in Santo Domingo. After that, I started hanging with MrGogo who showed me more ropes. With the help of those two guys along with google maps on gps these days, and countless non-pro options, I am comfortable hanging out in Santo Domingo and using it for a base in the south instead of staying in Boca Chica. When I am up north I may fall through Sosua anywhere from a few minutes to see what is going on up to two days max.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1599908]

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.[/QUOTE]LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.

My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her: drink a couple of beers at the nearby bar, watch divertido con jochy on tv. They almost never arrive on time, they are spending time getting ready for you. Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours, maybe more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599920]Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering...[/QUOTE]Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.

In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599926]LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.[/QUOTE]Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. I'm trying to think though about the banos in some of my gf's houses. Were there any toothbrushes there besides my own?

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599926]My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her:Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as [b]some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours[/b], maybe more.[/QUOTE]WTF?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1599908]The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".[/QUOTE]I guess she will know next time.

What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?