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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2342646]What do you think the top clubs are in NRW. Sorry to post this in the Berlin section. Going back to Berlin and Artemis next month, but 'might' try a road trip for 48 hours.[/QUOTE]Not enough reasearch done to answer your question. If you can survive without 9's and 10's, Living Room in Kaarst. Easy access from Dusseldorf HBh to IKEA Kaarst with S-bahn. Sky Saunaclub in Wuppertal is also underrated. Samya is ok but too many cocks per sqm and loud Turkish music.
Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.
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[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2342975]Not enough reasearch done to answer your question. If you can survive without 9's and 10's, Living Room in Kaarst. Easy access from Dusseldorf HBh to IKEA Kaarst with S-bahn. Sky Saunaclub in Wuppertal is also underrated. Samya is ok but too many cocks per sqm and loud Turkish music.
Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.[/QUOTE]Wow I have a lot of 'research' to get through. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2342976]Wow I have a lot of 'research' to get through. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Lots of valuable info in the Reports of Distinction part:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2019-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ZimmerBaby;2342975]Next and first visits: Dolce Vita, Magnum, Golden Time, Acapulco Gold, Bernds and Oceans. There are more clubs available too, some with shitty reviews, but I don't care, have to see them by myself.[/QUOTE]I would really suggest Acapulco over Acapulco Gold now that it reopened last weekend. And perhaps somewhere like Babylon or Sixsense is better than Bernds. As for Magnum type of club, Villa Vertigo (it has a new name I forgot) or PHG might have better girls for the day. Similar type of clubs, so lineups change a bit. Can be lucky anywhere in the clubs mentioned, but its a risk seeing lineups are smaller in average in nrw. Best have a car and backup plans if you are choosy. But entry fees can add up unless you are smart about checking for discounts.
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[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2342716]I have been only for the first time in 2017. I was back in summer 2018. I will be back again this summer.
There were many ugly old sharks as you mentioned. Tattooed hustlers from eastern bloc and Turkish girls hustling.
I was still able to have fun by just avoiding those girls and avoiding the bar.
Last summer I had an amazing Latina that I ended up sessioning with twice.
An actual German girl from Berlin.
A nice Polish girl.
All young and (relatively) fresh.[/QUOTE]I frequented Artemis from year 2009 till 2015. It used to be my favorite club because of following:
1: facility was big and good enough for me to stay all day and I can even work out. And plenty of escape place to just relax and chill away from girls. I used to enjoy laying on garden bed and watch stars / sky between sessions.
2: Line up was so diverse back then with about 2 to 5 stunner level girls in line up and new ones often get added each week or two, so each visit provided me few new stunner level beauty to fuck.
3: Food is not good, but I am not there for food and I often took in Turkish meal from outside. Also I met some nice guys there during meal for casual chats. I liked those meetings that you only meet then and gone forever. Memorable chats.
4: Upsell was always there, but all the best of best dirty service I got in FKK were in Artemis and palace. These tourist upsell club offer good service if you give into upsell that was reasonable enough.
5: Beside smokes, I love the set up of main bar where I can sit on sofa and look at girls walking in and of course stairway area where slot machine is with good lighting to see all the girls walking into main bar.
6: Good steam room separated from main building where you get away from it all. It is good if you stay long time.
However, in 2015. Somehow stunners in lineup vanished and it was left with mostly just older plastic monster girls with too much paints on their body. And upsell became just too extreme beginning to try to charge you for every little actions, I could negotiate and get what I want, but I got tired of dealing with the deal girls offer that only serve them. So I decided to move on to Hessen then to nrw.
I am returning in late summer this year to Artemis too. I hope it will be good visit.
Either way, I have so many good memories in Artemis that it is nostalgic for me just being there. Some stunner girls I sessioned with are long gone, but I will still see their shadows here and there when I will be in Artemis, this is something I like about FKK mongering, I am there for pure sex, but I do enjoy these nostalgic moments.
You meet these stunners that blow your mind, take her to upstairs, do most dirty first night of honeymoon sex, share some memorable moment that last inside your head eternally, go down stairs, pay reasonable amount, kiss and she is gone forever soon or later. Then on to the next stunner.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2343081]I would really suggest Acapulco over Acapulco Gold now that it reopened last weekend. And perhaps somewhere like Babylon or Sixsense is better than Bernds. As for Magnum type of club, Villa Vertigo (it has a new name I forgot) or PHG might have better girls for the day. Similar type of clubs, so lineups change a bit. Can be lucky anywhere in the clubs mentioned, but its a risk seeing lineups are smaller in average in nrw. Best have a car and backup plans if you are choosy. But entry fees can add up unless you are smart about checking for discounts.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Definitely on my list.
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Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.
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[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2343443]Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.[/QUOTE]OK, I got to go through Berlin for transit, so I might as well as hit my old fav. I will give out feed back like in late September. It is hit and miss, but I hope I will get lucky.
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[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2343443]Mr Ho.
Only stunner that was left on my recent visit was Carrie (BUL) and even if I has been with her on several occasions over the years she is not GFE and upsells BBBJ and the younger pretty girls at Artemis I wouldn't call stunners, none of them are above 7/8 out of 10 in my book.
Visit Spain instead much better value and prettier girls imo.[/QUOTE]Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.
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Danny.
I agree what you are writing about Carrie, she was better looking when she was younger and I have seen her blow people off and rejecting customers is common for her. But for some reason she has always treated me very well and I have had many sessions with her over the years. I think she is very attractive, not seen many better looking girls at Artemis over the years but of course we all have different taste in women. But her service level is questionable as I pointed out she upsells BBBJ just as 98% of all girls at Artemis do. But her delightful little tight pussy is very tasteful, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2343489]Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.[/QUOTE]True, her attitude can be a problem. I always wondered what the deal was. But her body is or at least was quite spectacular at its height. I think she started the same year as I visited Artemis first time also, 2012. And I saw her in the online lineup as early as February that year. Not sure about her skin, but I did like her hair the last time I saw her, and it seemed as if she had toned down the hatred a bit. Sometimes she could just click and almost scream out. I tried asking her something once, and she was busy talking to a friend of hers. So I patiently waited 10 sec. Apparently it was extremely rude of me to wait. Since I obviously was listening to what they were talking about. As if I even knew Bulgarian. And since then she hasn't gone with me, telling me no, LOL! Oh well, at least her friends always were in a great mood with me and excused her acts.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2343489]Carrie from Bulgaria works at least 7 years at Artemis. She is always grumpy. Upsells is an understatement. She used to be very pretty, but IMO not a stunner 9.5/10. Never passed 8. 5/10. But I also see most of the rest as 6/10, so my curve is lower anyway. 6 years ago Carrie had a good skin on the face. Now she is just old and wrinkled with layers of make up. Her behavior is absolutely terrible. But she is in good company at Artemis. I'm not negative just realistic, honestly.[/QUOTE]FKK make girls old fast. Smokes especially in case of Artemis, working hours that are insane, too much pussy and anal pounding on daily basis and stress it causes to their Hormones. Surgeries, money pressure, food, late night coffees girls drink mess with their adrenal gland and so on. I mean it is worst environment for young girls.
One odd thing I noticed. When girl come to FKK first, their waist line is thin and fit, but years of pounding. Their not waist fat, but I think their waist bones get wider and bit bigger. I realized this. I wonder if it is constant penis pounding into pussy somehow make their waist bones some how wider and ass bit bigger? It is not them gaining weight, it is more bone structure that changes.
Generally, girls are Artemis has good attitude outside room beside up sell, inside room is different story sometimes LOL but I have come across very few rude ones, well I got to say these girls are very stressed, so it does not justify their attitude, but it explain where that attitude comes from.
Some girls complain about business being low. I mean if they throw attitude, upsell extremely, act different once in room, all the cheap hustler tricks they try on you. I mean what do they expect.
I have much fond memories of girls in early 2010's, but in 2014 and 2015. Artemis was just terrible. 4 years of absent, I will see this year. At least give me beautiful girls line up, I just need 3 or 4 girls like stunner level, then I am happy monger.
I mean what is Kennan doing with all these rather fat older plastic tattoo girls? What we client want is young beautiful model look girls. Like once Artemis had few of.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2344142]One odd thing I noticed. When girl come to FKK first, their waist line is thin and fit, but years of pounding. Their not waist fat, but I think their waist bones get wider and bit bigger. I realized this. I wonder if it is constant penis pounding into pussy somehow make their waist bones some how wider and ass bit bigger? It is not them gaining weight, it is more bone structure that changes.[/QUOTE]This is one of the most funny things I have read, it made my day thanks buddy LOL.
Yes too much penis in their pussy makes their waist go wider and the bones softer. The more they get fucked the bigger ass they get LOL LOL.
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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2344379]This is one of the most funny things I have read, it made my day thanks buddy LOL.
Yes too much penis in their pussy makes their waist go wider and the bones softer. The more they get fucked the bigger ass they get LOL LOL.[/QUOTE]Well it make sense, it affect muscle and fat around their pussy and make them wider and kind of push waist bones to side ways making their ass and waist wider and bigger as they stay long time in FKK.
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Any men here who are not characterised by too much talk and not enough walk? No? I know. Nevertheless I am asking.
Are curvy hookers around at the moment? Hookers who know how to shake on the floor what mama gave them? Hookers who are able to let them big tits bounce while their walk around? Hookers with curves like status symbols, wiggle wiggle, you know? No? I know.
I am talking here about real butts for men and not about slim young Mädchen ass. My bear hands need something to grab and not something they could hurt.
Are there hookers around screaming for more instead of starting to close their legs after 7 seconds because the rip-off business is wanted by consultant pimp?
Impotent pimp had his last erection back in the 80's as he saw for the first time what young slim Mädchen looks like under her Burka. Pimp don't like customers who enjoy penetrating his property.
Any hookers there who deserve to be called a hooker? Or only Mädchen who are doing what pimp is telling 24/7? No? I know.
In Artemis are hookers who believe they have a Hooker-ID because psycho pimp said so. You know? You know.
Germany has pretty crazy house rules for everyone. But only the not so cool dumb ones are following.
The Rest, needs to get rich, yearns for respect, but is still stateless.
Next time I spread some hate from the bottom of my heart for big time cheaters.
Empty promise, FKK Club syndrome.
You know.