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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2055555]
a girl who ask you money doesn't love you, she just fuck your mind. My advice. Brothels and prostitutes are not the best for love. There are many girls waiting for big love in real life.[/QUOTE]You are rite French 👹.
At least she should give you CIM for free if she rly likes you, LOL.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2055559]ACA has Kondompflicht signs at front desk, inside each locker, and various other places.[/QUOTE]Signs of the apocalypse. Sounds like the Writing is on the Wall for the FKK system. Be warned though, if I see any of those signs I will squirt all over them. Then they will also have to cover the signs in kondoms -- just in case somebody accidentally touches one and catches, like, trafficking or something.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2054933][URL]http://m.bild.de/politik/inland/prostitutionsgesetz/neue-regeln-im-puff-52395980.bildMobile.html[/URL]
Sounds like some of the authorities are less than evangelical about enforcement and will be fairly relaxed so long as there is no advertising or screaming for attention, so far as the condom elements of the new law are concerned.[/QUOTE]There's an upper bound on the plans of the Evil Empress, and that's how many Stormtroopers can be persuaded to enforce the new laws. Let's face it, it can't be the most glamorous gig for Frankfurt's Finest: crouching outside a Zimmer, peeking through the keyhole from time to time, snorting indignantly at critical points in the proceedings. "Don't make me come in there!
So apparently Acapulco is the first FKK to fall.
Went there once for the 40 euro sessions. But never again.
Someone reported Samya was still OK on another topic.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2055559]ACA has Kondompflicht signs at front desk, inside each locker, and various other places. Told my regular to fetch a key, but she said "wait I have to tell you something". Then she explains the new law that forbids BBBJ. I thought she was joking at first. I tried to reassure her that nobody would know, but was unsuccessful. She smiled and apologized profusely, but she just kind of gave me the look "I need to follow orders".
A second WG that was new to me. We spoke at least 7 times, each time short 2-3 minute conversations. Final conversation, I decided to confirm that she will do BBBJ. She says "No only with". Spent about a minute or so convincing her, but again was unsuccessful.
So zero sessions. Zero upsell attempts. Men seemed to be still going to the rooms, so maybe I was just picking the wrong WGs, or BBBJ isn't that important for them. Not a huge sample size so maybe not conclusive findings, but I don't have any plans to return any time soon. My plan is to speak to other mongers I know in the coming months and hopefully get updates on the situation. I doubt it will come from the forums since ACA isn't that well reported in English, Dutch, German, or French.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2055559]ACA has Kondompflicht signs at front desk, inside each locker, and various other places.[/QUOTE]Fortunately, I don't understand German.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2055667]Fortunately, I don't understand German.[/QUOTE]I guess your post was sarcasm but for real I think it means condom duty but hasn't it been always like this. Now you need to wear condom also when the girl suck you? How about licking the girl's pussy?
[QUOTE=Guy93;2055692]I guess your post was sarcasm but for real I think it means condom duty but hasn't it been always like this. Now you need to wear condom also when the girl suck you? How about licking the girl's pussy?[/QUOTE]It shows how fragile the rules are, in regard to DATY it should be covered as it is the equivalent to BBBJ, what about rimming passively or actively, it's all BS. I truley totally understand banning unprotected vaginal and anal sex, which makes sense, but adding BBBJ alone to the ban is beyond my reasoning other than it's easier for the government to ban everything rather than specify with good solid reasoning.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2055559]ACA has Kondompflicht signs at front desk, inside each locker, and various other places. Told my regular to fetch a key, but she said "wait I have to tell you something". Then she explains the new law that forbids BBBJ. I thought she was joking at first. I tried to reassure her that nobody would know, but was unsuccessful. She smiled and apologized profusely, but she just kind of gave me the look "I need to follow orders".
A second WG that was new to me. We spoke at least 7 times, each time short 2-3 minute conversations. Final conversation, I decided to confirm that she will do BBBJ. She says "No only with". Spent about a minute or so convincing her, but again was unsuccessful.
So zero sessions. Zero upsell attempts. Men seemed to be still going to the rooms, so maybe I was just picking the wrong WGs, or BBBJ isn't that important for them. Not a huge sample size so maybe not conclusive findings, but I don't have any plans to return any time soon. My plan is to speak to other mongers I know in the coming months and hopefully get updates on the situation. I doubt it will come from the forums since ACA isn't that well reported in English, Dutch, German, or French.[/QUOTE]Speaking to some regulars at various clubs the feedback is that if they know you then BBBJ is available and if they do not know you so well or not at all then BJ is with condom as required by the law. I guess this is at the discretionary decision of the girl as the intention of the law is that the girls are at a disadvantage so need to be given some control over what they do.
So I guess that this is a test of your regular status with girls.
It is good to have asked prior to the law change where you stood as many guys have done prior to the law change.
Good that there was zero up-selling.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2055726]Speaking to some regulars at various clubs the feedback is that if they know you then BBBJ is available and if they do not know you so well or not at all then BJ is with condom as required by the law. I guess this is at the discretionary decision of the girl as the intention of the law is that the girls are at a disadvantage so need to be given some control over what they do.
So I guess that this is a test of your regular status with girls.
It is good to have asked prior to the law change where you stood as many guys have done prior to the law change.
Good that there was zero up-selling.[/QUOTE]As already forecasted, in 6 months BBBJ will be at 98% not available in Germany like in many other countries except you know well the girl or she is really desperate to earn some money.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2055510]How many Ukrainians have you met in German FKK clubs lately?
HB.[/QUOTE]I've never checked their passports. Nontheless, I didn't talk about german FKK's now.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2055555], if you want A level, pay 50 in NRW or 100 in Hessen or 200 in Switzerland, [/QUOTE]
I've had a level on Hessen for 50 most of the time you must be picking the wrong girls. (Or 55ish since I give a small tip normally).
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2055510]How many Ukrainians have you met in German FKK clubs lately?
HB.[/QUOTE]For about 12 years of busy FKK history I've seen two Ukrainian girls and many that pretended to be Ukrainian. I speak both Ukrainian and Russian and I can easily find out whether girls is Ukrainian or not. Both real Ukrainian girls were German citizens after marrying and then divorcing German guys. They weren't young. Same story applies to most of Russian girls as well.
If someone wants Ukrainian girl go to Kiev. Plenty of options for any budget.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2055726]
So I guess that this is a test of your regular status with girls.
[/QUOTE]I have a sneaking suspicion that ACA management may be discouraging BBBJ, in the way some Hessen clubs discourage WGs from meeting clients outside the club. Of course for "preferred status customers", WGs will risk being banned from the club.
Even if they can't be prosecuted, I assume neither the club nor the WG want the extra "heat" from authorities. I can't see how having authorities on-premise is good for business. So my hope is all parties are just being extra cautious, and things will change.
Of course, my interaction was just an isolated case. It could be that this WG does not like me, so the new law provides a convenient way for her to discourage me from approaching her again. WG's have banned me before, but this didn't feel like the previous occasions, hence the sneaking suspicion.
My report may not have any relevance outside of ACA. Hessen big-5 has different clientele, different scale, much bigger spenders, etc.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2055667]Fortunately, I don't understand German.[/QUOTE]You are probably just joking, but the signs are little everywhere. ACA really went overboard. It is actually animated cartoon drawing (condom with a a face), and believe the verbiage was both German and English. I guess the local Turks can claim to not know either language.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2055823]For about 12 years of busy FKK history I've seen two Ukrainian girls and many that pretended to be Ukrainian. [/QUOTE]Where were the pretenders from? Other Russian-speaking countries? Or Romania?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2055823]
Both real Ukrainian girls were German citizens after marrying and then divorcing German guys. They weren't young. Same story applies to most of Russian girls as well.[/QUOTE]Germany would have allowed these women to bring any non-adult children over.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2055806]I've had a level on hessen for 50 most of the time... you must be picking the wrong girls. (Or 55ish since I give a small tip normally)[/QUOTE]Anaconda is too big for little girls ass, but always heard usual Hessen A level rate is 100 , versus 50 in NRW with some real woman ass.
Like usual Hessen rate for CIM is 50, versus 25 in NRW, except for Oceans as say girls there. Many girls should lose money for CIM business with new law. When less and less clients, maybe crowd fall will be increasing with new law, they may also lose money about services, when some were 100 € for 15 mn specialists without fucking. Lower money for business and little girls will have to grow their vagina.
[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2055701]It shows how fragile the rules are, in regard to DATY it should be covered as it is the equivalent to BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Should or shouldn't, who cares. The law is what it is. BBBJ is illegal, DATY or rimming is not.
HB.