Santo Domingo

GBP and places it like cost 1,000 pesos for one girl and 1,500 pesos for two girls. Sosua does not cost less than that. You can pay 3,000 or more in the capital. But it's not necessary. The capital is a city. One of many many things you can do there that you can't do in Sosua is go to the cinema. There are also museums, a university, different kinds of restaurants, the National Theater, supermarkets and corporate headquarters. I am going to stop now because if I go on I will get sarcastic.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599899]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talion;1599929]Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.[/QUOTE]You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599929]In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.[/QUOTE]Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down the street in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.

I agree with Mr. E and Gogo about going to Santo Domingo. E said rent a car you have too and Gogo said you have to have some game and speak some Spainish. I do not talk a lot any more as I do not want to fight with anyone just want to be helpful, but it never seems to work. Not sure if this is my last post, but here are my thoughts. First, the problem with people coming to Santo Domingo is they have a terrible plan, which results in failure and disappointment a lot of times. To think you will come to Santo Domingo, hire a driver to take you around you limit yourself because that cost can get expensive. Also, you do not know what will be good or not and sometimes you need trial and error. So, what happens is you just hang around the capital area hoping to pull a hot chick or you go to the strip clubs and overpay. Not a good plan. As Gogo said, you need to learn Spanish and move around and as Mr. E said rent a car to keep costs low. I wrote a piece a while back on driving around and I very rarely get stopped. Also, Santo Domingo is huge area there are so many places to go, but the problem is people come to the capital have a driver take them to what they know and that is it. If that is the plan, it is better for you to go to Sousa. There is nightlife all over the city where you can me hot chicks just being cool and presentable, but that is all on you. Santo Domingo is not for everyone.

Now let me say one more thing about the police. People have said it on this board. Be careful and some people have not really taken their concern seriously. Their is a great series people should watch called the "Wire" it is about the drug game in Baltimore and all the corruption and crime that comes with it.

In one episode, this guy has his name as the owner of the drug bosses strip club, but he gets mad that he feels he can make more money and decides to start selling drugs. Long story short, he gets caught by undercover police and is taken to jail. Now, the corrupt lawyer who works for the drug boss tells the guy you need to sign the backdated ownership over of the club now as he sits in jail because strip club owners cannot have criminal records. The guy say's no he will not sign he say's what do I get for signing and the lawyer looks at him and say's you want me to tell the drug boss you will not sign over ownership of the club as you sit here in jail. He quickly realizes he better sign now or he will be killed in jail. He signs. As the lawyer leaves he says a great line "you wanted to be in the game now you're in the game". The point I making here never play cops for fools. Who is the say they do not wait until you leave your hotel and walk down the street and decide to search you and say we just found this package of cocaine on you. Now you will argue not mine and they will say yes it is and take you to jail. Now you will get to jail and they will give you one chance to pay them some huge amount and you will refuse because you will stick to your morals and are cheap and think you can get out of it. What you do not know is once you are arrested you do not have to see a judge for 90 days, but you argue and say you want to call the embassy and they say okay maybe a couple days later you are allowed to make a phone call. Embassy tells you sorry for your problem we can give you a couple of Lawyers to talk too. Now the lawyer tells you he can get you out just needs a big down payment of course less than the cops are offering. You agree. Now you get to court for the first time, and low and behold the prostitute who you did not pay in the hotel room is there and she says to the judge you did not pay for her services and you also have a drug charge against you. Now tell me who is the judge going to believe you or the police and you do not speak Spanish. The judge orders you back to jail for another 90 days. Player you do not know the game do not try to play it and fight with the police you will lose badly. I know I seen people in jail who thought they knew the game. People on the board keep warning you but you're not listening. Player trust me it will end badly for you Punta Cana police are tourist friendly other places are not.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599941]What is the deal with Badoo? [/QUOTE]I have used that since 2011 (paid). I do not use that any longer I. E. , use the free service and then convert to whatsapp etc. The Pimentel girl was like that. I got to know her on Monday from home and Friday, I was in the cabana with her. Of course, I also had a similar situation in SD, that turned out to be a no show. But then she contacted me again. Go figure.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599936]Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. ?

WTF?[/QUOTE]Well, one reason why I like to choose women not off the streets in Sosua is that I like to kiss and women if they feel the closeness kiss with abandon. However until this trip, I have not had this sensation. The woman who came to stay the night in SD on Thursday had many things in her bag. Clothes and shoes but no toothbrush and so I noticed that. It again happened with the Pimentel women so suddenly, I am like. WTF. I also remember a girl who stayed the night in Santiago and she specifically picked a brush as we went to Supermercado central for dinner.

By the way, suddenly the SD thread is showing signs of life. What gives?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599941]
What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?[/QUOTE]Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.

SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.

You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1600002]SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1600013]You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.[/QUOTE]Old kool always respected your game. You having a driver is different as you have hot chicks coming to see you and you always have a good plan. You are always respectful to women and treat them well more people should learn that approach that is why the women you hang with love you and always are happy to see you and never screw you over. Now that is real game. People have to understand some people do not have bad stories. there is a reason they are smart and choose women wisely. Not to say it cannot happen but a lot can go wrong picking up a sw late at night. I just want people to have fun and be safe and not make stupid mistakes or have confrontations for no reason - not worth it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599950]You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, and you make a valid point about comparisons relativ to your knowledge base of places, but again that wasn't why I mentioned the others, which I did once again to frame the question. It would appear that the value proposition you describe is a variety of chicas open to the experience of casual meetings with foreigners and still in a big city environment. That's a good thing, and I understand that. Thanks again for the thoughtful response.

My world view changes with each new place I visit, but I can still examine each individual place based on its own merits. Every place has its own advantages and disadvantages, as well as it's own flavour. You don't have to have been to a lot of different places to appreciate the one you're in. Travelling widely brings a different perspective, but doesn't diminish your stop in any particular city. I appreciate your feedback and your viewpoint, so thanks.

Now, completely outside out the question, and as an actual comparison this time, your last statement about not having women jump into a strange car and just go with you in any place other than th DR is incorrect, as Cubanas will also go with you at the drop of a hat if they're so inclined. It makes Cuba a wonderful place to visit as well.

I look forward to my visit to Santo Domingo, and if you're around I'd be happy to meet up and buy you (and anyone else around) a beer or two to say thanks.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1599980]Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1600002]SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1600014]I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.[/QUOTE]It has changed recently. I currently have a 3 month sub with DC. Auto renew is now set automatically. You have to go into your account and change the billing. I just did mine. When I'm ready for another sub, I will get it when its most advantageous for me

My next preference is to sign up when I am already in country or soon to be. That way if she is real cute I can set up a meeting quickly. The guy right there in country trumps the guy talking to the same chica for weeks or months before he can get anywhere near the juice.

You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1600309]For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1600366]You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct in my regard. I do not need a dating service / website. However, I use and enjoy dating services / websites. I like the convenience of them. I don't think anybody here said they needed them, or that they haven't already had a friend to have a girl introduce other girls? I've done that many times. Them for me, and me for them. Dating websites / services exposes one to a lot more choices and places to visit than simply relying on a friends girl. Why limit myself to relying on a friends girl, when I can use any and all options that gets the job done?