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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2081761]Great report and observations from a young monger's point of view. The toothless hags in LA Caf are not worth 500 pesos. They maybe desperate but they hold out for 2,000 to 3,000 pesos and many fellas give it to them. Each day more newbies show up willing to pay higher prices to shoot their load. So, expect the trend of lower quality for higher prices to continue. Foreigners are decreasing in value because the president of the Philippines has been telling his people that most Western visitors are trash.

Now, things have changed. Even stunningly handsome young fellas with long thick cocks now have to pay higher rates for stunners. The runaway train cannot stop. As for what happened to AC, Koreans with huge amounts of cash are taking over the bar business is what happened.[/QUOTE]Yo CM, your mailbox is full.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2083465]Yo CM, your mailbox is full.[/QUOTE]So, say I. Yo CM (Chocha Monger).

Much better reading sharp, objective posts like Chocha Monger, than hype, which is misleading for the uninitiated / newbie.

"Just say it", don't string it out with fluff. Yo!

An enterprising clubfooted German monger has managed to fund his mongering trips all over Southeast Asia by displaying his enormous clubfoot on sidewalks and begging for cash. His little scheme paid for mongering in the Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong, and Indonesia.

However, his luck ran out in Thailand where he was deported and blacklisted after he was caught using a 50,000 THB charitable donation intended to fund his return to Germany to buy pussy from Pattaya bar girls instead. The Begging Monger showed his dedication to the pursuit of pussy earlier this week when he unsuccessfully attempted to board a Thai Airways flight from Zurich to Laos via Bangkok.

[URL]http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2017/09/14/most-hated-german-in-thailand-denied-boarding-a-thai-flight-to-laos/[/URL]

He is expected to return to the Philippines soon as his mongering options are now limited after deportation from Thailand, Cambodia, and Indonesia. So, beware of a begging blonde-haired clubfooted monger in his early 30's. His favorite hunting grounds for pussy and charitable souls are Angeles City and Manila.

[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/blog/2017/03/16/benjamin-holst-begging-conman/[/URL]

Unfortunately, this clubfooted monger is not alone in using creative ways to finance his lust for flesh. Many expat and backpacker mongers do their best to con others into donating cash that is quickly expended as a load in a bar girl's pussy.

As the caption says, hard to believe.

[QUOTE=LiveLaughFuck;2081560]You can get some seriously good looking Filipino girls. But on average they are far from attractive. It's not like Brazil for example where 1 in 3 are jaw dropping.[/QUOTE]I feel you. I took couple of filipinas to my hotel from Escape in HKG last February. One of them was easily a 9 and a half by my standards. I paid about 3000 HKD (almost 20 000 pesos) for a short time threesome session. That is way more than pulling two freelancers from a club in Philippines but even in retrospect it was well worth it.

I kept looking for a girl with comparable looks in AC during my short stay there but could not find one in the bars or clubs. During my short visit earlier this year I still got blown away by the GFE provided and the enthusiasm in the sack that more than made up for the lack in looks. To be honest, all the establishments I visited in AC had at least one girl I would take out. My eyes just skip over the ones that fail to meet my standards anyway. It is like an age-related vision problem: I only see the young girls.

I'm sorry to throw a little cold water on the discussions here but I think its important that members are fully aware of some of the dangers one faces in the Philippines.

You will not hear much about them as Philippines Jails are largely black holes with limited communication possibilities but there are currently around 1000 foreigners in Philippines jails. Of those maybe half are westerners and half of those are on sex related charges.

Conditions in these jails are as you might imagine horrendous. The main issue is insane levels of overcrowding (60-200 inmates per cell sharing 1 or 2 primitive CRs). The vast majority of foreigners are held in city jails on remand during the trial process. Relatively few are ever actually convicted, but the bad news is that the trials typically take 5 to 10 years. Yes you read that right. What that means is that guys can be locked away for 5-10 years on the most flimsy evidence (just "probably cause") provided the police can pin a non bailable case on him.

The primary non bailable cases are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], murder and anything to with drugs in excess of possession of about 5 g.

Of these the most dangerous for foreigners is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] as the courts are allowed to ignore distances, or anything to do with minors (under 18) where the DSWD can take the girl into custody and not allow her to desist.

Please note that both [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] are defined incredibly widely in the Phils so that they bare little or no resemblance to what you might think they are. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] can be as innocent"as taking a girl you thought was 18 to the beach when it emerges that she's-really 17. I'm afraid I'm not joking.

Having anything to do with under 18's is incredibly dangerous, and it is no excuse that you may have thought she was 18 or that she swore blind that she was 19 etc etc. If you have any doubt please insist that the girl brings valid ID with a date or birth (if necessary a NSO birth cert). Even being in a hotel room with an [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url] girl is illegal if you are more than 10 years her senior, even if she is doing nothing more than watching TV and eating a bag of cheesy whatsits.

If you plan to spend any significant time in the Phils please get the name and number of a decent Atty who you can call in case of emergency. If you do get arrested, you may have a very limited time period in order to fix things with the PNP / NBI before the case is filed with the city prosecutor at whiich point the matter becomes 10 times more difficult / expensive to resolve.

A final point. Be incredibly careful with photos. Any uploading of naked or erotic photos is directly against Phils cyber crime law and opens you up to lots of potential trouble.

Hope these tips keeps someone out of jail.

[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2089247]I'm sorry to throw a little cold water on the discussions here but I think its important that members are fully aware of some of the dangers one faces in the Philippinesl.[/QUOTE]O&W.

Your last and only other FR was deleted by admin for discouraging memeber to write.

What you state is well documented in the news, on this board and other boards. In fact so much on this board that a RTFF would find countless comments. So nothing is new in what you post Did you post somethimg similar for India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, South America etc as what you say here could be said for those palce and other countries in Asia so why post here only?

Jails are tough even in the more developed nations and rules can be similar so please can you post similar for those countries and regions I noted so those who post there are also aware of the dangers.

I doubt if you have ever visited a jail based on your writing but I would encourage you to visit them in the Philippines. That is if you ever come here and then comment from personal perspective (same for those countries I noted earlier).

However is is better to have this discourse via the PM as so I would welcome your PM and we can continue it there as your topic has been reported on many times ad nauseum so PM when you want to continue this.

Look forward to the PM.

[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2089247]
If you plan to spend any significant time in the Phils please get the name and number of a decent Atty[/QUOTE]First problem right there.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2089541]First problem right there.[/QUOTE]Correct, the attorney is more likely to be your enemy, gouging as much as he can.

If attorney, get one reco'd by your Embassy / Consulate in Manila.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2089582]Correct, the attorney is more likely to be your enemy, gouging as much as he can.

If attorney, get one reco'd by your Embassy / Consulate in Manila.[/QUOTE]Sxxxx is absolutely correct that Defense Attys in the Phils are generally of poor quality and often interested to gouge you as much as they can.

The lists of Attys provided by the embassies (and I have seen most of the lists) are not tremendously helpful. They are essentially a list of the largest, most prestigious (and most expensive).

General law practices in the big cities. If you have a real estate deal etc they could be the right ones but for the majority of criminal cases people may find themselves in in an emergency they are likely to be useless.

The problem is that only general office numbers are given so you have to struggle through the bureaucracy to try to speak to a criminal law specialist. This is difficult enough were you at home in your apartment.

But you are likely to be in a basement cell of a police jail with poor reception, possibly with a bunch of other prisoners. Many of the big firms are very choosy which cases they take on either not wishing to take on foreigners with sex related cases.

Or in the case of the big name lawyers only taking on cases referred to them by the well connected.

The second issue is what constitutes a "good lawyer" . The ones on the embassy lists will almost always be reputable firms who pride themselves on "playing by the rules". Depending on your situation this may be in their interest (a nice long trial that they will eventually win having racked up 100 ks of pesos in fees,) but not in your interest if you are rotting in jail during this process. Less well regarded lawyers have a tendency to focus on more short cut type solutions which may be more in your interest if it can be achieved.

There is no easy solution to this. I am very familiar with the lawyers in Cebu so if anyone is concerned I can provide a couple of emergency numbers for Cebu but I'm not familiar with those in Manila I'm afraid.

Sxxxx is sadly correct that Attys in Phils in general and in particular in the criminal field are focused primarily on their own profit agenda rather than their client's interest.

The Embassies (and I have seen the lists provided by 4 or 5 of them) focus exclusively on the most reputable, high end generalist firms. These maybe a good choice if you wish to negotiate a real estate deal but sadly are next to useless if you wind up in jail and in need of emergency assistance.

The problems are.

1 The Embassies give the Head Office General numbers rather than specific names of decent criminal lawyers which is what you really need.

2 Many of these firms don't want to be associated with sex related cases for foreigners.

3 Most of the big name lawyers are fully booked and will only consider business from well connected referrals.

4 You will not be trying to sort this out form the comfort of your condo, but more likely in a police cell with limited cell signal, other noisy occupants, eavesdroppers etc.

More fundamentally the "high quality" lawyers typically pride themselves on winning cases by "playing by the rules" . The problem is that the Phils legal system is so insanely slow that this could result in a long and expensive time in jail whilst due process is carried out. Depending on your situation and the charges you face a less well renowned lawyer relying on "short cut"methods may be able to get you out quicker.

There is no easy solution I'm afraid. I'm very familiar with the legal scene in Cebu so if anyone wants a couple of emergency numbers for Cebu I can help, my knowledge of Manila is second hand but I can also suggest a couple of possibilities there.

[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2089247] Snip.... I think its important that members are fully aware of some of the dangers one faces in the Philippines.
Hope these tips keeps someone out of jail.[/QUOTE]Useful tips there OlderAnd Wiser that deserve to be aired, and re-aired from time to time, no matter how long you have been in the Philippines.

A recent incarceration of a Scotsman without charge is a good example supporting the points you make OlderAndWiser. Here we have a man who has been in a relationship with a Filipina for 6 years and based on her words he has been detained without any formal charge. His phone, laptop, immigration documents, banking records and even his car have been confiscated.

For more information see: [URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/scot-imprisoned-bureau-immigration/[/URL].

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2089427] What you state is well documented in the news, on this board and other boards. In fact so much on this board that a RTFF would find countless comments. So nothing is new in what you post
Snip .....
I doubt if you have ever visited a jail based on your writing but I would encourage you to visit them in the Philippines. That is if you ever come here and then comment from personal perspective. [/QUOTE]You are pretty vigorous there Wicked Roger. No matter how new the member is I welcome postings on a variety of subjects that may appear as old news to some of us. I don't think it necessary to visit a jail (I have) to recognise how horrendous (OlderandWiser's word) that this experience would be like. We of the Western world would at least expect some legal rights of defence in our own home country justice systems. Not here in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2089706]Sxxxx is sadly correct that Attys in Phils in general and in particular in the criminal field are focused primarily on their own profit agenda rather than their client's interest.

The Embassies (and I have seen the lists provided by 4 or 5 of them) focus exclusively on the most reputable, high end generalist firms. These maybe a good choice if you wish to negotiate a real estate deal but sadly are next to useless if you wind up in jail and in need of emergency assistance.

The problems are.

1 The Embassies give the Head Office General numbers rather than specific names of decent criminal lawyers which is what you really need.

2 Many of these firms don't want to be associated with sex related cases for foreigners.

3 Most of the big name lawyers are fully booked and will only consider business from well connected referrals.

4 You will not be trying to sort this out form the comfort of your condo, but more likely in a police cell with limited cell signal, other noisy occupants, eavesdroppers etc.

More fundamentally the "high quality" lawyers typically pride themselves on winning cases by "playing by the rules" . The problem is that the Phils legal system is so insanely slow that this could result in a long and expensive time in jail whilst due process is carried out. Depending on your situation and the charges you face a less well renowned lawyer relying on "short cut"methods may be able to get you out quicker.

There is no easy solution I'm afraid. I'm very familiar with the legal scene in Cebu so if anyone wants a couple of emergency numbers for Cebu I can help, my knowledge of Manila is second hand but I can also suggest a couple of possibilities there.[/QUOTE]Tried to send this private mssg to OlderAndWiser, but it says he cannot receiev private mssgs.

Hello. I have been a 39 time visitor to Phil starting in 2004. I come about 3 times a year and stay 3 to 6 weeks each trip. I always land in Cebu (hate manila) and use Cebu as my base but like CDO, bohol, Davao and other areas for visits with chatmates I meet online. Have never had any legal problems (knock on wood) so far but I am aware that getting involved with these filipinas can lead to that no matter how careful a screening process I have. So I would appreciate the name and number of some competent lawyers that you know in Cebu. I am also thinking of possibly buying a condo there in a few years and I would need a good lawyer for that process as well.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2090002]Tried to send this private mssg to OlderAndWiser, but it says he cannot receiev private mssgs.

Hello. I have been a 39 time visitor to Phil starting in 2004. I come about 3 times a year and stay 3 to 6 weeks each trip. I always land in Cebu (hate manila) and use Cebu as my base but like CDO, bohol, Davao and other areas for visits with chatmates I meet online. Have never had any legal problems (knock on wood) so far but I am aware that getting involved with these filipinas can lead to that no matter how careful a screening process I have. So I would appreciate the name and number of some competent lawyers that you know in Cebu. I am also thinking of possibly buying a condo there in a few years and I would need a good lawyer for that process as well.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I'll try to think of a solution, I don't especially want to become paid member just for the privilege of passing mostly ungrateful dudes sound advice. Your attitude is sensible. Its a bit like skiing you can go on 20 ski trips never have any problems then one day get a bit overconfident, go off -piste then wham you are doing a Michael Schumacker. The situation in jails in the Phils has become insane. There is an American guy in jail in Cebu who has been waiting his arraignment for over 3 months (now scheduled for tomorrow) and there is a rumor that his next hearing. The pretrial before the trial even begins will be scheduled for March.

I hate to ask this question after all these reports of jail. Well anyway what is the situation concerning weed in country. I know it is against the law. Was wondering if it was to be had without to much hassle?