Kyiv

[QUOTE=AColonizer;1331249]I really don't know which famous Italian fashion brands are still manifacturing in Italy with Italian fabrics and with Italian workers![/QUOTE]Pal Zileri (Gruppo Forall). I made a real-estate deal with them a few years ago and had the opportunity to visit their factory in Vincenza (they also fabricate for Zilli and Zegna by the way). They produce the finest quality clothing, and this is defined by their simple label: Made in Italy.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1331466]Ask any dev why the defense towards foreigners, number one reply. "They won't marry you".[/QUOTE]Not every girl is looking for love and long-term relationships. Fortunaly, casual sex is as common as ever in FSU, and most girls know exactly what they are getting into when dating and / or fucking foreigners.

Dear members,

This forum was made to increase sexual practices only.

Your adolescent crises are not welcome.

[QUOTE=Prosal;1331471]I can speak only from my experience, but I find that by-and-large, the lower on the food chain the girl is, the sneakier she is. And consequently the relationship lacks of "passion" and of spontaneity. Lower class / poor girls are most often one-track-mind goldiggers. I remember that Doctor Skank said once that it's in their blood and called survival. Contrarily, higher social class girls often put out uncomplicated and passionate relationships. The bills are paid, they have no materialistic expectations or financial problems to solve and they only feel they need hot adventures otherwise they are missing out on life.[/QUOTE]Well, than I can assume you have no concept of the "jewel in the rough theory". In twenty years of post communism, you are assuming that folks in FSU have the same social securities as people out West. Skank just made a generalization, seems uncultured of you to stereo type people and not judge a person by his / her individual qualities.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1331561]Well, than I can assume you have no concept of the "jewel in the rough theory". In twenty years of post communism, you are assuming that folks in FSU have the same social securities as people out West. Skank just made a generalization, seems uncultured of you to stereo type people and not judge a person by his / her individual qualities.[/QUOTE]I don't stereotype. I just depict how the world runs. I always been stunned by how some travellers (not just to FSU) can be genuinely disappointed to find that people in traditionally poorer countries actually have the same aspirations (and a desire to enjoy the same kind of lifestyle) as they do. For me they are missing the point. Poorer girls want to get higher on the status food chain. Period. And it's just normal. That said, I agree that for many of those girls, the way to get ahead is to work hard, be smart, innovate, learn, ect. But admittedly, many also try to harpoon a foreigner ONLY because they see a financial benefice to do so.

Some need to wear Fucking Nappies as well.

Tonight in Shooters, Irish Lad will be wearing 501's from Levi's and a T-shirt from M&S. Bound to score)

[QUOTE=Irish Lad;1331644]Tonight in Shooters, Irish Lad will be wearing 501's from Levi's and a T-shirt from M&S. Bound to score)[/QUOTE]Bound to score for sure. The Irish Lad on a Wednesday night, usual table at Shooters.

Its not the label you wear, its the Looks and the Style, Got it?

Now repeat after me the above and jog on.

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul;1331354]Sadly I never got to experience Shooters as I was denied entry LOL.[/QUOTE]Can't you look like an Irish Lad?

[QUOTE=Irish Lad;1331644]Tonight in Shooters, Irish Lad will be wearing 501's from Levi's and a T-shirt from M&S. Bound to score)[/QUOTE]Thanks to get back on tracks (smilie). How is Shooters on a Wednesday night?

1) First pic is Julia from Mamba, not my girl but a fellow monger's taken at Sky Bar on Friday. Next to her is a girl I wanted but could not get that night.

2) Blonde is Natsy from Mamba $200 for all day & night and she has a amazing flat stomach. She's actually off to China soon with a Turkish guy she has never met yet.

Just got back from all the strip bars,

Arena city cabaret has the most beautiful women, so friendly! I fell in love with my stripper! She wrote my email and gave me free private, whch was more of a romantic kiss seshion.

Shooters, Wednesday is gurls night! Men can't come till 12. But it is crazy bumping! Hookah bar in basement is nice to bring your women for quiet.

Uhmm lots of expats in shooters as well. Most of them horny old men LOL!

I've had plenty of sex in Kiev and never spent money for it. I only complain about how much money I spent partying.

Make up some half assed lie if you need, seem innocent and different. You will win.

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul;1331354]Sadly I never got to experience Shooters as I was denied entry LOL.[/QUOTE]I also was declined on a Wednesday night at 12:30. I saw two different groups of guys about my age, well dressed, turned away. If you look at their photo gallery, the crowd is mostly twenty and thirty somethings. I have never been in the place, but if I was to guess, the days of this place being monger friendly are over.

If I was to try again, I would go on a day other than Wednesday and a lot earlier. I'm sure older expats have no problem entering once the door people know you. The door man clearly looked at only one thing, and that was my age.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1331845]I also was declined on a Wednesday night at 12:30. I saw two different groups of guys about my age, well dressed, turned away. If you look at their photo gallery, the crowd is mostly twenty and thirty somethings. I have never been in the place, but if I was to guess, the days of this place being monger friendly are over.[/QUOTE]Just one question. Why you guys continue to go to Kiev repeatedly? I mean, there is many other places in FSU (and even in Ukraine for that matter) that are not invaded by sex-weaned tourists, where there is no disdain or distrust towards foreigners (or at least where it is not so blatant) , and where the women are not so spoiled and equally beautiful. Just asking, no polemic here.

[QUOTE=Prosal;1331889]Just one question. Why you guys continue to go to Kiev repeatedly? I mean, there is many other places in FSU (and even in Ukraine for that matter) that are not invaded by sex-weaned tourists, where there is no disdain or distrust towards foreigners (or at least where it is not so blatant) , and where the women are not so spoiled and equally beautiful. Just asking, no polemic here.[/QUOTE]For me, I have to begin somewhere and Kiev seems just fine. The basics are all here: beautiful women, cheap sex, and needy girls.