Safe Sex

Hi, folks, for those of you who like 3somes, how do you make sure that no vaginal fluid gets in contact with your penis when switching from one girl to another. It seems to me that it is very easy to get in contact with vaginal fluid when changing condoms, either you do it yourself or the girls do it for you. Are there any special method or techniques to make sure that no fluid gets on your penis. What is the possibility of being infected with STD with this minimal exposure if it happens. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Leo Ryder;1538496]Hi, folks, for those of you who like 3somes, how do you make sure that no vaginal fluid gets in contact with your penis when switching from one girl to another. It seems to me that it is very easy to get in contact with vaginal fluid when changing condoms, either you do it yourself or the girls do it for you. Are there any special method or techniques to make sure that no fluid gets on your penis. What is the possibility of being infected with STD with this minimal exposure if it happens. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I guess you will just have to use your common sense and be extra cautious. But again, this will certainly take some fun out of it.

[QUOTE=Kitty Seeker;1550961]I guess you will just have to use your common sense and be extra cautious. But again, this will certainly take some fun out of it.[/QUOTE]Taking these precautions will be worth it in the long term.

[QUOTE=LeoRyder;1538496]Hi, folks, for those of you who like 3somes, how do you make sure that no vaginal fluid gets in contact with your penis when switching from one girl to another. It seems to me that it is very easy to get in contact with vaginal fluid when changing condoms, either you do it yourself or the girls do it for you. [/QUOTE]Well, you could use two condoms, one always stays on while the top one gets replaced. I had that experience in South Africa. As far as I'm concerned I might as well have stayed home, but to each his own.

[URL]http://www.lovesafesex.com/[/URL]

"StarTech condoms cover the full shaft and scrotum, thus adding protection and sensuality for both the male and female. We have four types of condoms and a genital scrotal cap used with a regular condom of the user's choice".

"provide added protection against skin contact STDs. These include: Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) Cervical and Penile Cancers Chlamydia".

[URL]http://www.scrotector.com/[/URL]

"The Scrotector condom offers a special protective pouch for the male scrotal area in addition to the tried-and-tested latex barrier covering the shaft of the penis".

[URL]http://www.origamicondoms.com/[/URL]

"The ORIGAMI Male Condom (OMC) is the first NON-rolled, engineered, silicone condom intended to facilitate a pleasurable and safe sexual experience for the male wearer and his female partner".

"Unlike the conventional rolled latex condom (sensation from outside), the OMC is designed to CREATE sensation from the inside with direct tactile contact. It provides a reciprocating motion for the penis inside the internally lubricated condom (not possible with rolled latex condoms)".

The flange at the base of the condom provides more coverage than a latex condom, protecting the base of the penis from STDs spread by skin contact (warts, herpes).

[QUOTE=LeoRyder;1538496]Hi, folks, for those of you who like 3somes, how do you make sure that no vaginal fluid gets in contact with your penis when switching from one girl to another. It seems to me that it is very easy to get in contact with vaginal fluid when changing condoms, either you do it yourself or the girls do it for you. Are there any special method or techniques to make sure that no fluid gets on your penis. What is the possibility of being infected with STD with this minimal exposure if it happens. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You could have both the girls use female condoms. The FC2 is much better than the original FC1 due to a change in the material. Another possibility is to apply chlorhexidine to your genitals and pubic area before you start.

[QUOTE=JohnDough;1513991][url]http://chlorhexidinefacts.com/mechanism-of-action.html[/url]

"Chlorhexidine is a broad spectrum biocide effective against Gram positive bacteria, Gram negative bacteria and fungi. Chlorhexidine inactivates microorganisms with a broader spectrum than other antimicrobials (e. G. Antibiotics) and has a quicker kill rate than other antimicrobials".

"It has also shown activity against enveloped viruses in vitro (e. G, herpes simplex virus, HIV".

"In topical applications, chlorhexidine is shown to have the unique ability to bind to the proteins present in human tissues such as skin and mucous membranes with limited systemic or bodily absorption".

"In fact, chlorhexidine's antimicrobial activity has been documented to last at least 48 hours on the skin".

"It has become the gold standard in dentistry due to its ability to adhere to soft and hard tissue and maintain a potent sustained release".

[url]http://www.dentaljugaad.com********topic/135/chlorhexidine-rinse-for-preventi?mobile=1[/url]

"Current literatures support prophylactic use of chlorhexidine rinse as a safe and effective way for reduction of retrograde entry of bacteria from oral cavity to the urethra following insertive oral intercourse".

[url]http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/pmcc/articles/PMC105674/[/url]

"To identify topical antimicrobial preparations which may be effective in preventing the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases, we examined the activity of chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG) against Chlamydia trachomatis".

"We conclude that CHG gel may be effective topically against C. trachomatis at concentrations that can be used and under conditions that are found in the female genital tract".[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I just wanted to know, has anyone caught anything from a BBBJ? While there is no concern about HIV, what about the other STD? I will be on a business trip in DE and I am thinking of making a trip to a FKK or two. What I do not want is to be bringing home something back to the missus at home.

I was browsing thru the photo threads of various countries and was horrified to see the number of pictures of punters doing it bareback. A majority of the pics seem to be bareback sex. Guys please be careful! Just my 2 cents. Be safe, enjoy!

[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1580851]Hi,

I just wanted to know, has anyone caught anything from a BBBJ? While there is no concern about HIV, what about the other STD? I will be on a business trip in DE and I am thinking of making a trip to a FKK or two. What I do not want is to be bringing home something back to the missus at home.[/QUOTE]By far the biggest risk of BBBJs is that if you are not yet infected with Herpes, you may catch it from a working girl who has HSV1 or cold sores in her mouth. I personally know of one non-WG friend who accidentally gave it to her boyfriend while giving him a blowjob. I don't know what relation HSV2 has to HSV 1 but you can google that.

Personally I picked up HSV2 while traveling Europe in my early 20's. I got it from unprotected sex with a 18 yr Swedish girl who was on a high school graduation trip to Greece. Imagine screwing a beautiful barely-legal blond, big titted Scandinavian girl and getting that from her in the 1980's. Bad luck. While I felt cursed and the initial outbreak was bad, over the years outbreaks have became more rare, separated by years, and these days they have great anti virals, Valtrex, so it's not an issue for me although I have to be careful to not pass along to others.

You might do some research, but it stands to reason that Valtrex would give you some prophylactic protection.

Condoms don't cover the base of the penis or the scrotum, allowing the possibility of transmitting some diseases by skin to skin contact, like herpes and warts. To provide extra coverage, wear a rubber scrotum cover.

[URL]https://bodyaware.com/product/view/rubber-jewel-sheath-lt027[/URL]

We were discussing no-penetration activities in places that are typically full penetration (FKK in Germany).

Anyone else have a preference for scaled back activities in places that typically are all inclusive?

There is some recent research that Lube (not spermicide) protects against STD transmission and destabilizes viral cells.

Specifically chemical compounds in certain lubes (eg, astroglide) degrade viral viability.

I'm not an immunologist, but from recent "field experience" can attest that lubes are in heavy use and I would imagine any viral "shedding" has to travel thru barrier of viscous lube and that doesn't appear easy.

[QUOTE=KaveMan;1652166]There is some recent research that Lube (not spermicide) protects against STD transmission and destabilizes viral cells.[/QUOTE]Any lube that is water repellent will also be body fluid repellent. That alone is helpful. Sufficient lube also prevents cuts and tears in the skin resulting from friction, through which microbes could enter the body.

Coconut oil is an excellent lube and anti-microbial agent. Oil based lubes will damage latex condoms, but they can be used with polyurethane condoms.

[URL]http://coconutoil.com/coconut-oil-offers-hope-for-antibiotic-resistant-germs/[/URL]

"The antiviral, antibacterial, and antifungal properties of the medium chain fatty acids / triglycerides (MCTs) found in coconut oil have been known to researchers since the 1960's. Research has shown that microorganisms that are inactivated include bacteria, yeast, fungi, and enveloped viruses".

"There has been good research lately showing that coconut oil is also a good topical agent for fighting germs! People living in the tropics have known this for thousands of years already, of course. It is good to see some of the research catch up with the facts. A study published in 2010 in Skin pharmacology and physiology looked at the "effect of topical application of virgin coconut oil on skin components and antioxidant status during dermal wound healing in young rats. " They found that Virgin Coconut Oil-treated wounds healed much faster, as indicated by a decreased time of complete epithelization and higher levels of various skin components".

[URL]http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/avoid-secondary-herpes-infections-with-coconut-oil/[/URL]

"coconut oil have been shown to have the ability to actually destroy the herpes virus, and also prevent secondary bacterial or fungal herpes infections".

"Coconut Oil contains several healthy compounds, including two fatty acids with antiviral qualities: lauric acid and capric acid. Depending on the source / brand of the coconut oil, it will contain between 40 to 50% lauric acid and 8 to 10% capric acid. When these two fatty acids are metabolized in the body, they convert into monoglycerides, which are glycerol molecules named monolaurin and monocaprin. These two monoglycerices have been shown in research studies to cause disintegration of the viruses by destroying the fatty coat surrounding the herpes virus as well as HIV and Cytomegalovirus".

"Monocaprin, one of the monoglycerides of capric acid and lauric acid, were found to be the most active of all the lipids tested, causing a greater than 100,000 fold reduction in the virus (HSV type 1) titer in 1 minute at a concentration of 20 mM, is the result of a study featured in October 1999 in "Journal of Pharmaceutical Sciences", and conducted by a team of researchers from the University of Iceland, Reykjavik. Based on this study, the authors suggested a topical gel be developed having capric acid and lauric acid as active ingredients to be used for preventing sexually transmitted diseases such as herpes virus, HIV, gonorrhea and Chlamydia".

There is also empirical evidence that HIV virus cell outer layer is destroyed (literally explodes itself / self destrructs) in saline environment.

Thats why the mouth, a saline environment, is such a low transmission site.

These lubes are all saline based.