Panama City

Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.

And finally, regarding Elite, I have been offered the all you can drink special and I'm a gringo. But I'm not sure that it's available every day. And anyway I'm not a big drinker so it was cheaper for me to do the minimum consumption, which I think was 2 drinks. Luvr Tom, I've been pushed harder there to buy lady drinks than anyplace in town, including Miami. I think drinks is how the women there make a lot of their money -- nobody does take out, because the price is ridiculous. And management will fire any woman they catch setting up something for after hours or the next day (although you can still do it if you're careful). The way to play it back at them would be to do the all you can drink deal and watch the shows -- they're really good -- and don't blow a lot on lady drinks.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.[/QUOTE]


Ok, part of my posting is for effect. I do not want to start a flame war with Roberto ( no mas, no mas) Duran.

Again i must "defend" ELITE.

IMO they're very respectfull, they both (chica and waitress) will ALWAYS ask you before buying any drink for the girl.

And about the Europeans... well it's not unknown that most Europeans here are businessmen who make MUCHO money (more than the average gringo or mexican who comes to Panama). For example a german, spanish, french or italian guys most likely will bring mucho money.

The point is not about how expensive are turning the "services" the chicas offer but how able you guys are to pay that.

COMPRENDE?

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Too bad my government was so stupid ([blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Jimmy Carter), gave away the canal. Anyway keep taking your potshots, one day the US will wake up and we will demand that our government stop handing out foreign aid accross the globe, but please keep insulting americans, for I want to see the foreign aid end, and maybe we can take better care of our own citizens not illegals). . So keep biting the hand that feeds you. But maybe then if we cut the aid off, we will be able to get your women for $ 5-10 USD, toda la noche.

I don't take it personal, after living in CR in the past, I know the resentment too well. Just stating fact here.[/QUOTE]Hey MJG Dogs your name is the right one, you are a [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] dog, and no one here want your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] money (only the colombians [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]), so go back to your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] country.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the ISG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any [u]personal attacks or derogatory comments[/u] directed towards another forum member.

Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports edited for personal attacks against other forum members will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.[/blue][/size]

[size=+1][red][b][u]1 down, 2 to go[/u][/b][/red][/size]

[size=-2][blue]Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/size]

I’m not from Panama not from US either. I’m from Germany I’m really don’t like the fucking attitude some [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] guys like MJG Dogs have. Here I found good looking women (from Colombia) that would accept $50.00 and will be so grateful that everyone is happy, but when they realized that are some “[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]” that start paying $75.00 or more, they will start asking for that.

And one final quote to the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] of MJG Dogs, remember the euro have more value that your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] dollar.

To the other Americans, don’t take it personal but you have to admit that the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] came from USA (like [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]).

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the ISG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any [u]personal attacks or derogatory comments[/u] directed towards another forum member.

Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports edited for personal attacks against other forum members will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.[/blue][/size]

[size=+1][red][b][u]2 down, only 1 to go[/u][/b][/red][/size]

[size=-2][blue]Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack to me via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 3rd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/size]

Luvr Tom

RTFF instead of adding all your posts to the Reports of Distinction section. If someone really thinks they are that good they would add them for you.

Why are you so surprised at this? If you had read the forum before any of your visits you would know that Le Palace, Life Girls, Miami, Elite and Cristal Moon all have a chica drink policy. Any girls drinks will be charged at bar price, usually around $10 and the girls and the bar split the profit. This is a common practice in the U.S. It is a common practice in clubs around the world. In the Far East there are clubs where the only thing you do is sit with the girls and buy them drinks. And let’s not forget the “Champagne Rooms.” Some guys enjoy the company. There are easy ways to avoid this - JUST SAY NO. Say it politely. Tell them you would rather find a way to give all the money to them and not have to split it with the bar. Or say you would only like to buy only one. Or do not go to these clubs. There is no drink pricing in place at Habano’s, Veneto or a lot of other places. There are no drinks on the street. But everybody has their own preferences and approaches to being with the girls.

The girls in the clubs are there to make money. Unlike the street girls the prices are fixed by the bar. There are economics in play here. They have “protection” from the owner, they have routine medical checks, some clubs even provide housing. So any activities inside the club have a fixed price and management monitors that. They use their share to offset some of the costs and make a profit. The girls use their share to make money! They can make money by having guys by drinks for them, or by having sex with them. Or both. Their job is to sell. You are customer. Your job is to decide what to buy and from whom.

I have never been ripped off at any of these places. If I like a girl I will sit and have a drink with her. If I don’t like a girl I won’t. The girls will usually ask if it is OK to have another. If you are buying many drinks someone from the club will ask you in advance it it is OK, or require a credit card early on. They do not want to get stuck.

By the way if you are going to be spending a lot of time in Panama you should know a little more about the drink.you call pretentious ass shots of (fake) "premium" spirits. It is not a Jagermeister knock off. Most of the girls don’t even know what Jager is. It is Aguardiente. It is in the family of ouzo and sambuca. It is a product of Colombia. The girls have grown up drinking it. They have songs about it. I now make sure I have a bottle of it in my room for when I bring a girl back.

You posted one of the only reports about being ripped off by Golden Times, and you let a tout from Life Girls take you to Oasis. You are getting stuck for drinks in a club. Perhaps you can admit to inexperience and learn from others on this board

So, Pty Sexy, you're German. Now I understand. Most of the Panamanians that I've met have been buena gente that didn't go around insulting people. Well, except for a couple of taxistas. You need to work on your English vocabulary to find a more effective way of expressing yourself than using the "f" word. And your attitude towards chicas could use a little cleaning up too, based on your post in the Managua thread.

[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]Mr. PTY you will get nowhere in Managua. The girls will hate you. The men will too. They are very physical there. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I’m sorry for the so called gringos. I spoke several times with Latin people I had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like Americans at all. I’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. We didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like Iraq. Anyway this is not the place for this political issue so I’ll not comment again about this topic.

Remember:

The local price was around $40.00 for a decent girl last year, but right now because of “g____r____s” the price’s almost the double.

Viel Glueck

And Gran Pollo, I don’t know why you attack me, I was impressed with your Managua knowledge but I’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.

I apologize myself for the hard way I made my point about the payments to hookers.

Let’s forget it and star all over again.

I prefer to be a humble man an admit my mistakes.

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Pty Sexy]I’m sorry for the so called gringos. I spoke several times with Latin people I had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like Americans at all. I’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. We didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like Iraq. Anyway this is not the place for this political issue so I’ll not comment again about this topic.

Remember:

The local price was around $40.00 for a decent girl last year, but right now because of “g____r____s” the price’s almost the double.

Viel Glueck

And Gran Pollo, I don’t know why you attack me, I was impressed with your Managua knowledge but I’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.[/QUOTE]



Holocaust- Interesting choice of words, considering where the poster resides.

I will not repeat some of the choice words that I have heard to describe the poster's ethnicity, while I was traveling in the dominican republic.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]And finally, regarding Elite, I have been offered the all you can drink special and I'm a gringo. But I'm not sure that it's available every day.[/QUOTE]The lady who takes your money mentioned which days the special is available. Its something like 4 days a week. I dont remember exactly, but I do think that 3 of the days were Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

The announcer for the shows kept hyping the fact they have locations in several countries. What was it? Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panama and somewhere else. I never heard anything special about the one in Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo]The lady who takes your money mentioned which days the special is available. Its something like 4 days a week. I dont remember exactly, but I do think that 3 of the days were Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

The announcer for the shows kept hyping the fact they have locations in several countries. What was it? Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panama and somewhere else. I never heard anything special about the one in Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]

Elite in San Jose is a real clip joint. I mean you had better account for every drink, every snack. They will overcharge you if you let them. Although I have seen some very fine chicas in there. I mean very very hot.

[quote=pty sexy]i’m sorry for the so called gringos. i spoke several times with latin people i had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like americans at all. i’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. we didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like iraq. anyway this is not the place for this political issue so i’ll not comment again about this topic.


and gran pollo, i don’t know why you attack me, i was impressed with your managua knowledge but i’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.[/quote]

read your offensive posts, some of which i take it were deleted by the moderator. your post in managua asking for **** girls ended any willingness for me to offer any advice for any location.

note i am not american but that did not mean that i thought your posts had any merit.

I got into P.C. last night and so far things are rocking.

The cab ride from the airport to downtown is about $25 plus tips for everyone and his grandmother, but I told the attendant I wanted a ¨collectivo¨ and I was able to split the fare with 3 other Americans on a stopover to Cartagena. With tips I spent $12 to get to the Hotel Montreal.

The Hotel Montreal is pretty basic with clean rooms and rock hard beds. I got a room with 2 beds for $33. The hot water isn´t hot, and it takes 5 minutes to get lukewarm, but there are plenty of other hotels nearby if I want to move.

After I put my stuff in the room I headed to Habano´s across from the Marriott, a $2 cab ride with tip. As I got out of the cab I was instantly greeted by a tout for the Palace strip club, but I told him it was muy caro and I was not interested.

There were a dozen smoking hot girls at Habano´s, and about 5 guys. One pretty Colombiana named Joanna had me sit with her and her friends. After a while she offered to go back to the room for $100 but I refused. Eventually she offered to go for $80 but I said I will get plenty for free in P.C., so no sale. Posts from last year said prices were $30, so special thanks to all you guys so desperate for pussy that you pay any price and mess it up for those of us that like our sex for cheap.

After a few beers I was the only guy left and there were still 13 girls standing around. Finally one of Joanna´s hot friends told her she was going dancing and she was nice enough to invite me. As I was getting into the cab with three hot Colombianas the tout yelled out to me ¨I´m your friend.¨ I just smiled and climbed in the cab.

We went to a local disco playing super-loud reggaeton and I danced with a bunch of hot chicks and had a blast all night.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]